May 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Nicole Parker, former FBI Special Agent and Fox contributor, on the two FBI's. Nicole shares her firsthand experiences and perspectives on the internal culture and political dynamics within the FBI. She highlights the controversial reassignment of agents who were photographed kneeling during the George Floyd protests in 2020, emphasizing the division between what she terms "FBI one" and "FBI two." Nicole criticizes the politicization and social justice initiatives within the FBI, arguing that these actions undermine the agency's core mission and integrity.
The conversation delves into the changes brought by the leadership of Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, who are working to unify the FBI and eliminate politically motivated behaviors. Nicole recounts her experiences during the Miami division and discusses the impact of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) hiring practices on the FBI's operational standards. She also reflects on the cultural shift within the FBI, particularly under the Obama and Biden administrations, and the challenges faced by agents committed to upholding the Constitution without political bias.
Additionally, the show touches on recent geopolitical events, including a missile attack on Israel by Houthi rebels, highlighting the ongoing threats faced by the nation. The hosts discuss the implications of these attacks and the support provided by international organizations to aid affected communities.
In a lighter segment, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton humorously debate the feasibility of swimming from Alcatraz to San Francisco, with listeners weighing in on the challenge. The show also covers the NFL's announcement of the 2027 draft being held on the National Mall, showcasing the intersection of sports and politics.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
join for the first time by Nicole Parker, former FBI
special agency, the Fox News contributor. Nicole, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's dive into this shaw We story recently on. You know,
it's funny friends of ours run the FBI now, Cash
Mittel and Dan Bongino. It's pretty amazing. The deputy and
the director and the FBI under their leadership, has reassigned
a few agents who had been photographed kneeling during the
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quote racial justice protests in twenty twenty after the death
of George Floyd. First of all, what happened here? Like,
how could this have gone on at the FBI in
the first place? And is reassignment really a punishment? What
can you tell us about this move?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right? So, first of all, I was in the
Miami Division working as an FBI special agent when it's occurred.
Those pictures were taken of the agent's kneeling on June
fourth of twenty twenty, and internally at the FBI, those
photos became popularly known as Nail Team six, you know,
(01:17):
kind of a sarcastic play on Seal Team six Neil
Team six instead, and it was quite catastrophic internally at
the FBI. I can tell you that agents were not happy.
That is not a proper representation of who we are
and how we should be behaving. And what they did
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kneeling to George Floyd's protesters was unequivocally wrong, and current
and retired agents were called by their actions, and it
was embarrassing to good agents. Yet people say that because
of these emotions and reassignments, there are other current and
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former FBI agents who were disgusted at their reassignments and
disgusted at the demotion. So what I can tell you
is that this is a clear example and clear demonstration
of what I witnessed at the FBI. There really are
two fbis, Okay, I call it FBI one versus FBI two,
And the way I perceive it, FBI one were solid
(02:19):
FBI agents that just came to do their jobs. They
took an oath to uphold the Constitution and to protect
the American people and to put all political persuasions aside.
FBI two were those that oftentimes were in leadership roles.
It wasn't just people in DC, it was people from
the top, and it trickled all the way down to
the bottom. There were people in the support staff that
also followed FBI two. These are individuals that used their
(02:43):
law enforcement power to push their political and social agendas,
and this demonstration of them kneeling, in my opinion, is
the epitome of FBI two behavior. And FBI one was
not happy about it because that is embarrassing and shameful
behavior for an FBI one agent and so agents, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
No, no, I was just going to say, I thought
you were finished answering that, but I was going to
remind you came on with us January. Second, and I
think this ties in with what you're saying right now.
Right after the terror attack in New Orleans, they had
an FBI agent go up and say that they didn't
know whether this was a terror attack. How much do
you think the culture has already changed inside of the
(03:27):
FBI with Cash Betel now in charge in Dan Bongino second,
based on what you're hearing so with them.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And this clear indication that this cut of behavior is
not tolerable. Again. This happened in June twenty twenty and
they're taking action on it now, on this five years later,
I think what it shows is that cash depel means business. Okay,
President Trump won, the FBI and DJ were politically and
socially weaponized. And there are two fbis right now. I'm
(03:55):
sorry there are and what Cash Papel and Dan Bongino
and all other fellow theleadership, the Trump administration, Attorney General Pambondi.
Their goal is to make one FBI. We just want
one solid FBI, and they're taking steps each and every day.
Some of them are more publicly seen, some of them
are behind the scenes. But this to me is a huge,
(04:17):
bold move that indicates they mean business and people will
be held accountable and there will be tangible consequences, and
without tangible consequences, the FBI will remain two fbis, And
so I like it. I think it's a bold move.
I think FBI one is supportive of this, because again,
this is not the demonstration of who we are. We
(04:38):
know you do not worry your official FBI marked ballistic
vests in public, making a political and social statement and
kneeling to protesters. It looked like those mealers were in
supportive of the cause of the George Floyd protesters. That
is entirely inappropriate. You can never make political or social
statements on FBI time, in sci gear and especially in public,
(04:59):
and the FBI is to remain politically and socially neutral,
and under the Biden administration in particular, that was not
the case.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, how did this happen? Nicole?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Can?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I ask shirts inappropriate as well? You should not wear
any political T shirt ever at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So when I was at CIA a long time ago,
you could see that HR policy and some of the
analyst cadre was just becoming more and more left wing
all the time. And I think that was I think
the HR and admin was really where it started, because
you know, agency guys who had been in for a
long time were not tended not to be woke. But
(05:36):
then it started to become more woke and more more
left wing and more ideologically ideologically driven. How could this
happen at the FBI? Though right we all watch, I
mean we're talking about the rock before. We think of
the FBI as very by the books, been in Polish
all about the law, and you got a bunch of
communists running the place under Biden. How did that happen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think how it happened, it's twofold. Again, there were
people that have always been at the FBI that have
not really been necessarily doing the right thing, that were
appointed to high leadership roles and positions. I think also
the FBI and they're DEI hiring, they're hiring standards changed drastically.
So the type of individuals that they were looking to hire,
agents and support staff, I would say, change drastically. And
(06:21):
so now you have just a different shift in how
the FBI used to operate versus how it is operating now.
But again immediately they are changing and increasing the physical
fitness requirements to a higher level at the FBI. In
the test they are getting rid of DEI entirely. There
were nineteen clubs and organizations if you can belete that.
How does the FBI have time for nineteen social justice
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clubs until every single case in crime is solved with
the FBI, There's no time for that. But that's what
this last administration specifically focused on, I thought under the
Obama administration as well. But I think the key is
getting to the root of the problems. And again we
going back to the kneelers. They claimed that they were
in fear of violence. They thought that, you know, they
(07:05):
were in fear for their lives. I personally found no
signs of violence or anyone being in imminent danger a jest,
their serious physical injury. And in fact, many of the
kneelers were clapping, they were smiling, they were cheering, and
those are hardly signs of dress or wait wait.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Just real, real quick. The FBI people claimed they kneeled
because they were scared.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Correct These FBI as insane. They said that they were
in fear for their lives of series violence breaking out.
But yet these and most of them are female, and
they're clapping and cheering, totally inappropriate. You don't look like
you're in fear for your life. And if you're an
SI agent and your fear for your life because some
protesters walk by, I can tell you I knew of
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other agents at surrounding buildings because they were asked to
stand in front of posts in front of these buildings
to protect them. Other agents that other buildings weren't kneeling,
and there was no major violence breaking out of them.
I didn't see anyone charging f these agents where they
felt that their life was in serious you know, imminent
danger of death or serious physical injury. I'm sorry, and
(08:08):
I worked violent crime in Miami. If you were in
fear for your life, the FBI highly trains us at Quantico.
We go through firearms training, we go through defensive tactics training,
quite extensive training. And if you were in fear for
your life in that situation, with all due respect, you
really should not be an FBI agent because if all
you're capable of doing is working behind a desk and
(08:30):
you're not able to, you know, face potential violence, we
aren't for law enforcement officers is at THEI agents and
you need to be able to to spam on your
own two feet literally and not kneel. But again, there
was no one charging at them, laughing and smiling. And
then what was more disgusting to us internally, these agents
(08:50):
were thinking, you know, they're going to get disciplines, They're
probably going to get fired. If not, they're going to
get disciplined. Not only did that not happen, they got
some of the most highly thought afterropositions at the FBI.
They were offered one hundred dollars gift cards by the
FBI Agents Association after that incident, it looked like they
were rewarding them. And that's the FBI too that I
(09:13):
worked under. And that is why I left the FBI,
because myself and others looked at that and we said,
this is wrong, this is embarrassing, this is shameful behavior.
I want no part of this, and America needs to
know what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Nicole, thanks for coming on, and again I love this perspective.
Do you remember a moment you started enjoying the FBI
to try to catch bad guys like Buck joined the CIA?
Do you remember a moment in time when you were
working and things shifted? When did the culture, the vibe
start to change as an FBI agent, Do you remember
(09:49):
a moment or was it a slow slide?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I would say it was a slow slide, but the
defining moment that I initially noticed that the FBI was
political because I started in twenty ten. It would be
in twenty sixteen when Jim Comey got in front of
the American people on July fifth of twenty sixteen and
he said that no reasonable prosecutor would charged Hillary Clinton. Well,
(10:12):
fast forward, where was the reasonable prosecutor who wouldn't charge
Donald Trump? And I'm like looking at it, and I'm thinking,
isn't that interesting. It's all about when it fits their
narrative and when it's convenient for them. But this is
not equal enforcement of the law. And for them to
say that it is, that's insulting. It's insulting to the
(10:33):
American people, and it's insulting to the FBI one agents.
We're not stupid, like we knew exactly what was going
on at the FBI. So for me, I would say
July said the twenty sixteen when jim Comy got out there, Okay,
so benjiam Comy gets fired, rightfully. So Christopher Ray comes in.
We're hoping that he'll be better. He wasn't. He wasn't
any better at all. And so it ramped up very
(10:55):
strongly in the summer of twenty twenty when we noticed
that the FBI was doing virtually nothing to stop these
violent writers from burning down our country. And then fast
forward to January sixth of twenty twenty one, the FBI
went full force for misdemeanors, and they did that for
four straight years. But yet when our country was getting
(11:16):
burned to the ground, virtually no response. January sixth, full
force and that happened over and over and over at
the FBI. So and then the social justice warrior email.
I started feeling like I worked for a social justice
warrior club rather than a law enforcement agency. And I
(11:38):
talked about this. My best friend was killed. She was
shot and killed in the line of duty executing a
warrant against this child predator. There was no SWAT team
for her. Yet they were liberally sending SLAT resources in
the same time frame for January sixth misdemeanors, but yet
no SLAT team to the most violent offender that the
(11:59):
FBI takes down. And now we have two dead FBI agents.
Others were shot, but yet it was just so blatant.
And then the FBI didn't even tell us what happened.
They didn't even tell us what happened, but yet I
got a DEI email almost every single day. Can you
imagine how sad that was. My friend is dead. I
(12:19):
don't know what's happened, but yet I need to be
informed that there's nineteen different clubs at the FBI for
social destinari or purposes. I wanted no part of that.
That's not why I joined. And sadly, a lot of
people like myself walked away from the bureau. But the
good part now is I do believe in redemption, and
(12:41):
I do believe that there are so many good people
still at the FBI, and the key is proper leadership
and bringing the right people on board and getting the
FBI back on track.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
As always, Nicole Parker encourage you guys to follow her
on social media. Thank you for sharing your store and
thank you for giving us feedback on this. I wanted
to make sure you came on when I saw it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
All right, Well, I love y'all so much, and keep
up the good work and God bless y'all.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thank you so much. Nicole Parker will share her social
handles as well. You see her a lot on Fox News.
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Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 3 (14:35):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Thanks to
Nicole Parker, who was just on with us former FBI agent.
I wanted to play this cut for you guys. MSNBC
just had to apologize on air. I don't think you've
seen this yet, Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Hell, it's been spending more than at the FBI office.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
This is what they said on MSNBC that they felt
the need to address or apologize for.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Correct Listen and now let's circle back to a segment
from Friday Show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Frank for Gluzy was on that morning during this hour
discussing the work of administration officials.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
At the end of that segment, for Glucy said, the
FBI Director Cash Pateel has reportedly been more visible at
nightclubs that at his office at FBI headquarters. This was
a misstatement.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We have not verified that claim.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I feel pretty good that he's been in FBI headquarters
more than he's been in nightclubs. I think that is
pretty easy to verify. But that wasn't that just a
snarky comment and not they didn't mean it right. I
think this is interesting because it shows you how worried
these networks are now about getting hit once again for
lying about something such that they might even be overcompensating
(15:51):
on some of these factual issues where I mean that
that to me is something that clearly designed to be
like hyperbolic attack but not literal I don't think that
whoever was at MSNBC who said he's been at nightclubs
more than he's been the FBI was saying that that
is a factual statement, right, But they are certainly freaked
(16:15):
out about the possibility of saying anything that could get
them and get them in a place where they could
be sued.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Let's be honest. I mean Trump has gone out there
and sued these different if that's for lying about Trump.
But Cash Metell's the FBI director, he could probably do
the same thing. Yeah, I've never seen the disarray that
we see right now from all of our It's like
we don't have any worthy opponents anymore. I don't know
what else to say. They're trying to try to get
(16:41):
something going, and it's it's pretty sad to watch the
whole thing, and they're just not up to the task.
Right now. Trump has kind of just defeated the He's
just defeated the anti Trump media, and they have to
figure out why they exist beyond hating Trump, because for
a decade now, that's the only reason they've gotten up
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I think this segues perfectly. I said we would
play it. Speaking of defeating your enemies. Roger Goodell and
the NFL just came and kissed the ring in the
Oval Office. Trump announced the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft
is going to be on the National Mall, which, if
you remember the relationship between them, this is a crazy moment.
We haven't played this, I think cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I'm pleased to reveal that the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft,
that's a big thing, will be held right here in
our nation's capital, Washington, DC, on the National Mall, and
you get a little glimpse of it. I don't think
I was just saying to Roger, I don't think there's
ever been anything like that. That's a good idea, of fact,
(17:44):
maybe we could use it for other things. Also have
an idea.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's going to be something that nobody else will ever
be able to duplicate that I don't suspect.
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Right, we'll come back to this in just a second year.
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(18:16):
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welcome back into Clay and Buck. Is Trump running for
(18:58):
a third term. He loves to talk about it because
the media gets in a total panic over the whole thing,
although I would just point out that what do they
do really now? They just cover Trump. That's all. That's
all that they exist to do, and they kind of
need it, especially over at MSNBC. I tried to watch
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maybe this is like an addiction that I can't shake.
I tried to watch a little bit of Morning Joe
this morning. Just oh, no, so boring. I know. I
went back to it, you know, you know, Morning Joe
sent me a U up text and I was like, okay, fine,
you know, I'll respond. So I try to watch. It's
so boring and worthless that I turn it off. Honestly,
in ten minutes. I couldn't even couldn't even get through
(19:41):
a full segment. It was just such a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Is it fair to say that in the combination of
saying this was the best version of Biden and then
showing up to Ben the need to Trump, that basically
that show just doesn't matter anymore. I mean, yeah, the way,
at this rate, at this rate, Joe and Meek are
going to be selling sham wows in about six to
twelve months. I mean, it's really it's tough. It's tough
over there.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know it's a it's a bit like watching one
big slow motion funeral for their careers. But anyway, Yeah,
the media is having a tough time. We'll talk about
this Trump third term stuff in a second. I just
have a question, Clay, just a curiosity things. I know
you'll know this because I seem to recall finding out
at some point years ago that because the NFL Commissioner
they're going to do the draft now on the launch
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so the president has now we played that audio a
minute ago. Doesn't the NFL commissioner make like forty million
dollars a year or just something completely outrageous. I feel
like I could do.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
That job and I don't even know anything about football,
probably more than forty million a year now. And the
way they justify it is he's the CEO basically of
the NFL, but each of the thirty two NFL teams
kicks in like a million and a half dollars, so
rounding basis like that isn't that much. But I think
(20:55):
it's the best job in sports, and I think it is,
to your point, also the easiest job in sports, because
people love football and all you have to do is
not be a complete and total moron, and you can
run that business. This is the classic thing I think
that people always need to remember that there are a
lot of jobs out there that are really hard to
(21:17):
get and not very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right It's like a lot of people want the job.
I'm not saying it's easy to become that person or
to get that role, but it's not hard to do.
It's not hard to do, dude, You or I could
be you know, tenurre at Harvard professors tomorrow, Like very
hard job to get, but yeah, way easier than what
we're doing right now. And I love our jobs, our jobs.
(21:41):
I can't believe we get paid to do this, But
there are a lot of jobs out there, and I
just think NFL commissioner gets just like go to meetings
and talk about sports all day and make I mean,
how many players make thirty or forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I would increasingly more, and they would argue partly because
of his leadership, but yeah, like, if you're a star
quarterback in the NFL, now you make fifty million dollars.
A few receivers make really big money defensive ends, but
Roger Goodell is probably higher paid than ninety five percent
of NFL players at least maybe ninety Yeah, ninety five
(22:16):
is probably a good guess. And but I think the
best job. I think that is an amazing job. I
still think the best job in media relative to pay.
You know, Judge Judy makes over fifty million dollars a year.
I've talked about this before because I think it's the
best job anywhere in media. And she only works thirty
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days a year or something. They tape all those shows
bang bang bang, so she barely has to be on
set or in studio. Otherwise she can just travel around
the world for the other eleven months out of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Basically, But when some guy refuses to return the hoes
that he borrowed from his neighbor and the damages are
in excess of thirty or forty dollars, you need Judge
Judy to just be like, excuse me, sir, do you
I think I could do that job.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think I could do Judge Clay. Judge Judy's eighty
five years old. I think if they let me play
the role of judge. I mean, I've got the law background.
I think I could do that gig. And I might retire.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
About I don't even have that law background, and I
could do that gig, the easiest gig in the world,
you know. But I mean that's the best fifty million
to work thirty days a year, and really, I mean,
that's not a high stress job. It's fun. You're trying
to solve relatively inconsequential I've read about lady. It's not
even a legal rather, it's not even a true court proceeding.
(23:42):
It's binding arbitration. So she is just in the role
of arbitrator for low, basically low stakes disputes.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
My understanding is they go and they grab the small
claims court cases that they think are interesting, get both
parties to sign that they will agree to be bound
by whatever her judgment is, and she's the art manor
and basically all they have to do is just find
somewhat interesting cases that they think their audience will respond
well to, probably doing interviews to find out whether or
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not the plaintiff and defendant are also entertaining.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I used to watch people score back in the day
with Judge Wabner. I think Judge Wapner is the kind
of the og. I'm he may be the goat of
the of the fake judge presiding over minor disputes with people,
because I used to watch him too back in the day,
so I mean he was he was definitely the guy
(24:35):
that went that took this into the stratosphere. And then
he had Judge Joe Brown. He had all these different
guys who were trying to be wapner, but Judy is
the one who's made the most money. And I'm also
not just realizing if you guys all push Clay into
actually doing this Alcatraz swim like I can't. I can't
leave my I can't leave my wingman. You know, I'm
gonna have to get in a wet suit too. And
I'm not as buoyant as I used to be, so
(24:56):
this is a little bit concerning, I'll be honest with you.
You know, flotation is it's easier when you got a
little extra to love on you. So I've lost some
buoyancy in the last year.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I'm told that the challenge is just to avoid
getting swept out to sea, so I you know, that
is a that's a pretty substantial and said, good life lesson.
And if we do see a big fin in the water,
the good news is I don't have to outswim the shark.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just have to outswim clay. So you know what
I mean. It's got to figure out which direction I
got to go. It like some old joke about a
bear in the woods. I'm sure you've heard that one
right When the guy, yeah, that's the bear with the
two hikers, He's like, why are you taking off your
hiking boots and putting on your sneakers? Because I don't
have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. Yeah,
it's true.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Speaking of runs, this is disappointing. Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia,
has just announced to the Atlanta Journal Constitution this is
breaking literally right now, that he will not run for
Senate in the open Georgia Senate seat in twenty twenty six. Well,
let's hope Republicans don't decide to lose a fourth winnable
(25:57):
Senate seat in that state.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That would be nice. Wait, but we mentioned this third, yes,
third run thing right with the with the president. With
President Trump running for a third time, He talked about
this on NBC on their morning show Meet the Press.
This has caught four. Let's hear what the man himself said.
The Trump organization is selling hats that say Trump twenty
twenty eight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are you seriously considering a third term, mister president, even
though it's prohibited by the Constitution? Or is this about
staying politically viable?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I will say this, so many people want me to
do it. I have never had requests so strong as that.
But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge,
you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's
constitutional that they're not allowing you to do it or
anything else. But there are many people selling the twenty
twenty eight hat. But this is not something I'm looking
(26:50):
to do. I'm looking to have four great years and
turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a
great Republican to carry it forward.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay, Clay, this is Trump being real for or you know,
this is him being serious for a moment. He's like, look, guys,
like it's not not really running for a third term.
I want to have a grade four years. So the
media with their he's a dictator, he's a fascist. Okay,
he just likes to poke you, just like we've said
all along, not a surprise. Here's what I think is interesting.
He doesn't say who the successor is and I've said
(27:24):
this all along and that's but I don't think there is.
I don't think this is in any way a judgment
on JD. Vance from Trump. I think Trump so far
has has nothing but good feelings and good you know,
basically everything that jad Vance done I think has been
on points since he's been the vice president. I don't
think he's done anything that Trump wouldn't say Greade high five.
(27:45):
It's not about that. It was interesting when she raised
this about well are you going to be in the
game going forward? I think that Trump, as long as
he is around, is going to be in the position
of Republican k maker, and he wants to see how
things develop. He doesn't want to get ahead of himself
and anoint anybody to success or this early. Even though
(28:09):
he has a vice president. You know, that's kind of
a tradition that's not really or is shoulding. It's a tradition.
You know, vice president doesn't mean that you were the
nominee the next time around if you have two terms.
You know, a lot of people very happy with what
Marco Rubio has been doing a secretary of state. How
do you see that? Because to me, the interesting part
of this is more Trump positioning himself going forward as
(28:31):
as king maker and not Trump's going to run a
third time. He's not going to run a third time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I really thought it was interesting that he specifically shouted
out JD Vance and Marco Rubia because what it immediately
made me think of buck was it took me back
to the twenty sixteen sweepstakes when Obama set down Joe
Biden and said, hey, my pick is gonna be Hillary. Now,
there's obviously not the same mental cognition related issues for
(28:59):
even Marco Rubio or jd Vance at play, but the
fact that Trump mentioned both made me kind of wonder
how much of this will be a coronation of JD
Vance And jd has pointed out, Hey, if things go
well for three years, I think there'll be a lot
of opportunities for people who want to run. But how
many challengers will jd Vance actually end up with It's
(29:22):
hard to forecast right now, but inside of the administration,
Rubio is obviously very liked by Trump. He's got four
different jobs right now, and JD Vance was the pick. Remember,
if I don't I believe I'm correct the final three
that Trump considered were JD. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Doug Bergham,
(29:43):
And there were a lot of people pushing for Burghum
and Rubio and a lot of people pushing for Vance too,
but that seems to have been the final three that
Trump made the decision about. And I just kind of
wonder how this is going to all shake out because
he seems to really like Rubio and he seems to
obviously really like JD.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Vance.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Is it possible those guys run together and have a
unity ticket or are we going to see another, you know,
Donnie Brook like we saw in twenty twenty six, twenty sixteen,
where you have nineteen or twenty people running and you're
not sure who the who the pick's going to be. Well,
if this administration continues on the path that it's currently on,
I think that it's very likely that de facto, the
(30:26):
next Republican nominee will be whoever Donald Trump says it
should be. Now, does that mean that he relishes that
it's a bit like being on the Apprentice?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Does that mean that he relishes that position or does
that mean that he likes to be the elder statesman
who gets to preside over whatever that contest looks like,
you know, be the guy who's more just kind of
overseeing it instead of having his guy or his gal. Look,
(30:55):
I know it's early for this in a sense, but
it's also not that early because in the year this
is already, this is gonna be a thing where people
are making moves. This is why after the mid term
this starts. It's gonna start. I mean, this is why
having a one term lock in for Trump means that
this conversation is gonna We're gonna be having election conversations
(31:16):
a lot sooner than would be anticipated, because when you
have a first term president when he's running again, the
assumption is that it's him and everyone knows that, and
so you don't have that same jump to position for
the primary. And I think this time around there will
be before you know it, it'll be there. And the
good news for the Republicans is, I mean truly a
(31:37):
deep bench. And the way I think you can just
see that, Clay is there are a whole bunch of
people already around Trump who if they became the nominee,
a lot of maga people would say, fantastic, this is
this is carrying on the legacy.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I also think it'll be interesting on the Trump side.
We've never seen Trump as a quote unquote lane duck.
That's not me taking a shot at Trump. It's obviously
what you're called when you can't run for reelection. But
the president still would be there for all of twenty
twenty seven and most well all of twenty twenty eight,
and yet he wouldn't be angling for anything politically. So
(32:14):
what does Trump, truly unbound by any potential to run
for any political office going forward, actually look like? He
grips and rips quite a lot. Now, can you imagine
what he would be like without having to run for reelection?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, what do the executive orders look like when Trump's
only got eighteen months left in office? That's what I
want to know. Well, you know, what are those press
conferences like when he's got eighteen months left? It's already
pretty mind blowing. I didn't even know what eleven on
the dial would be.
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Speaker 1 (34:22):
We got a couple of people who want to weigh
in with me.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
As Trump is talking about bringing back Alcatraz to a prison.
I was just there a few weeks ago and I
stood on the precipice of Alcatraz and I looked out
towards San Francisco Bay and I told my son, my
seventeen year old, I said I think I could swim this.
And he said, no, Dad, you could not, and that
if you want to be entertained. A lot of people
have been weighing in during the course of today's program
(34:46):
about whether or not I can do it. There's a
poll up Patty and Ohio, you did it? How what
should I know?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay, So they have a triathlon there and it's called
Escape from Alcatraz, and so we had entered it, and
they boat you out to Alcatraz and then you just
jump off the boat when your wave is up, and
then you swimmed. I think towards sport Mason at that
time that I did it, they said it was a
mile and a half swim. However, swimming is my best event.
(35:16):
So if you are going to do this, I just
encourage you to train, do some open water swimming. You
could do it in the water.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
How old were you when you did it, Patty?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh? I was in my forties.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And was there any people that were trying to do
it that needed to be rescued? Did you see anyone
have to be right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Okay? And what was usually the reason that they had
to be rescued?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, I don't know exactly why this. He was a
football player. I don't want to say his name, but
he was a well known football player, and I don't
know if he just petered out or just got tired.
Because there are those swells. The swells are large. You
go up and then you go down.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
They're Crazyatty, did you ever have a moment where you
felt like a tug at your foot and you were like,
oh my gosh, it's got me.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Never. Never, No, I encourage it. You do it, do it,
you will, you will love it. You will be glad
you did it. You can do it. You just have
to go out there and try way.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I've thought that a shark was attacking me in the
pool when something touched my foot, So yeah, apparently he's up. Badass.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, Steven Birmingham has been waiting a long time. You
got twenty seconds, Steve.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh, Clay, Clay, Clay.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You would have to train, brother.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I know you're fit and you're not obese, and you're
not sedentary, but.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You would have to practice in that witch.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Sup because I tell you exactly how that would go.
A lot of pressure over your chest, art rate jack's up.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Your respiratory rate jacks up.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You jump in that cold water. On top of that,
you talk about claustrophobic
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
join for the first time by Nicole Parker, former FBI
special agency, the Fox News contributor. Nicole, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's dive into this shaw We story recently on. You know,
it's funny friends of ours run the FBI now, Cash
Mittel and Dan Bongino. It's pretty amazing. The deputy and
the director and the FBI under their leadership, has reassigned
a few agents who had been photographed kneeling during the
(00:38):
quote racial justice protests in twenty twenty after the death
of George Floyd. First of all, what happened here? Like,
how could this have gone on at the FBI in
the first place? And is reassignment really a punishment? What
can you tell us about this move?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right? So, first of all, I was in the
Miami Division working as an FBI special agent when it's occurred.
Those pictures were taken of the agent's kneeling on June
fourth of twenty twenty, and internally at the FBI, those
photos became popularly known as Nail Team six, you know,
(01:17):
kind of a sarcastic play on Seal Team six Neil
Team six instead, and it was quite catastrophic internally at
the FBI. I can tell you that agents were not happy.
That is not a proper representation of who we are
and how we should be behaving. And what they did
(01:37):
kneeling to George Floyd's protesters was unequivocally wrong, and current
and retired agents were called by their actions, and it
was embarrassing to good agents. Yet people say that because
of these emotions and reassignments, there are other current and
(01:58):
former FBI agents who were disgusted at their reassignments and
disgusted at the demotion. So what I can tell you
is that this is a clear example and clear demonstration
of what I witnessed at the FBI. There really are
two fbis, Okay, I call it FBI one versus FBI two,
And the way I perceive it, FBI one were solid
(02:19):
FBI agents that just came to do their jobs. They
took an oath to uphold the Constitution and to protect
the American people and to put all political persuasions aside.
FBI two were those that oftentimes were in leadership roles.
It wasn't just people in DC, it was people from
the top, and it trickled all the way down to
the bottom. There were people in the support staff that
also followed FBI two. These are individuals that used their
(02:43):
law enforcement power to push their political and social agendas,
and this demonstration of them kneeling, in my opinion, is
the epitome of FBI two behavior. And FBI one was
not happy about it because that is embarrassing and shameful
behavior for an FBI one agent and so agents, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
No, no, I was just going to say, I thought
you were finished answering that, but I was going to
remind you came on with us January. Second, and I
think this ties in with what you're saying right now.
Right after the terror attack in New Orleans, they had
an FBI agent go up and say that they didn't
know whether this was a terror attack. How much do
you think the culture has already changed inside of the
(03:27):
FBI with Cash Betel now in charge in Dan Bongino second,
based on what you're hearing so with them.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And this clear indication that this cut of behavior is
not tolerable. Again. This happened in June twenty twenty and
they're taking action on it now, on this five years later,
I think what it shows is that cash depel means business. Okay,
President Trump won, the FBI and DJ were politically and
socially weaponized. And there are two fbis right now. I'm
(03:55):
sorry there are and what Cash Papel and Dan Bongino
and all other fellow theleadership, the Trump administration, Attorney General Pambondi.
Their goal is to make one FBI. We just want
one solid FBI, and they're taking steps each and every day.
Some of them are more publicly seen, some of them
are behind the scenes. But this to me is a huge,
(04:17):
bold move that indicates they mean business and people will
be held accountable and there will be tangible consequences, and
without tangible consequences, the FBI will remain two fbis, And
so I like it. I think it's a bold move.
I think FBI one is supportive of this, because again,
this is not the demonstration of who we are. We
(04:38):
know you do not worry your official FBI marked ballistic
vests in public, making a political and social statement and
kneeling to protesters. It looked like those mealers were in
supportive of the cause of the George Floyd protesters. That
is entirely inappropriate. You can never make political or social
statements on FBI time, in sci gear and especially in public,
(04:59):
and the FBI is to remain politically and socially neutral,
and under the Biden administration in particular, that was not
the case.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well, how did this happen? Nicole?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Can?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I ask shirts inappropriate as well? You should not wear
any political T shirt ever at the FBI.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So when I was at CIA a long time ago,
you could see that HR policy and some of the
analyst cadre was just becoming more and more left wing
all the time. And I think that was I think
the HR and admin was really where it started, because
you know, agency guys who had been in for a
long time were not tended not to be woke. But
(05:36):
then it started to become more woke and more more
left wing and more ideologically ideologically driven. How could this
happen at the FBI? Though right we all watch, I
mean we're talking about the rock before. We think of
the FBI as very by the books, been in Polish
all about the law, and you got a bunch of
communists running the place under Biden. How did that happen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think how it happened, it's twofold. Again, there were
people that have always been at the FBI that have
not really been necessarily doing the right thing, that were
appointed to high leadership roles and positions. I think also
the FBI and they're DEI hiring, they're hiring standards changed drastically.
So the type of individuals that they were looking to hire,
agents and support staff, I would say, change drastically. And
(06:21):
so now you have just a different shift in how
the FBI used to operate versus how it is operating now.
But again immediately they are changing and increasing the physical
fitness requirements to a higher level at the FBI. In
the test they are getting rid of DEI entirely. There
were nineteen clubs and organizations if you can belete that.
How does the FBI have time for nineteen social justice
(06:45):
clubs until every single case in crime is solved with
the FBI, There's no time for that. But that's what
this last administration specifically focused on, I thought under the
Obama administration as well. But I think the key is
getting to the root of the problems. And again we
going back to the kneelers. They claimed that they were
in fear of violence. They thought that, you know, they
(07:05):
were in fear for their lives. I personally found no
signs of violence or anyone being in imminent danger a jest,
their serious physical injury. And in fact, many of the
kneelers were clapping, they were smiling, they were cheering, and
those are hardly signs of dress or wait wait.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Just real, real quick. The FBI people claimed they kneeled
because they were scared.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Correct These FBI as insane. They said that they were
in fear for their lives of series violence breaking out.
But yet these and most of them are female, and
they're clapping and cheering, totally inappropriate. You don't look like
you're in fear for your life. And if you're an
SI agent and your fear for your life because some
protesters walk by, I can tell you I knew of
(07:47):
other agents at surrounding buildings because they were asked to
stand in front of posts in front of these buildings
to protect them. Other agents that other buildings weren't kneeling,
and there was no major violence breaking out of them.
I didn't see anyone charging f these agents where they
felt that their life was in serious you know, imminent
danger of death or serious physical injury. I'm sorry, and
(08:08):
I worked violent crime in Miami. If you were in
fear for your life, the FBI highly trains us at Quantico.
We go through firearms training, we go through defensive tactics training,
quite extensive training. And if you were in fear for
your life in that situation, with all due respect, you
really should not be an FBI agent because if all
you're capable of doing is working behind a desk and
(08:30):
you're not able to, you know, face potential violence, we
aren't for law enforcement officers is at THEI agents and
you need to be able to to spam on your
own two feet literally and not kneel. But again, there
was no one charging at them, laughing and smiling. And
then what was more disgusting to us internally, these agents
(08:50):
were thinking, you know, they're going to get disciplines, They're
probably going to get fired. If not, they're going to
get disciplined. Not only did that not happen, they got
some of the most highly thought afterropositions at the FBI.
They were offered one hundred dollars gift cards by the
FBI Agents Association after that incident, it looked like they
were rewarding them. And that's the FBI too that I
(09:13):
worked under. And that is why I left the FBI,
because myself and others looked at that and we said,
this is wrong, this is embarrassing, this is shameful behavior.
I want no part of this, and America needs to
know what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Nicole, thanks for coming on, and again I love this perspective.
Do you remember a moment you started enjoying the FBI
to try to catch bad guys like Buck joined the CIA?
Do you remember a moment in time when you were
working and things shifted? When did the culture, the vibe
start to change as an FBI agent, Do you remember
(09:49):
a moment or was it a slow slide?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I would say it was a slow slide, but the
defining moment that I initially noticed that the FBI was
political because I started in twenty ten. It would be
in twenty sixteen when Jim Comey got in front of
the American people on July fifth of twenty sixteen and
he said that no reasonable prosecutor would charged Hillary Clinton. Well,
(10:12):
fast forward, where was the reasonable prosecutor who wouldn't charge
Donald Trump? And I'm like looking at it, and I'm thinking,
isn't that interesting. It's all about when it fits their
narrative and when it's convenient for them. But this is
not equal enforcement of the law. And for them to
say that it is, that's insulting. It's insulting to the
(10:33):
American people, and it's insulting to the FBI one agents.
We're not stupid, like we knew exactly what was going
on at the FBI. So for me, I would say
July said the twenty sixteen when jim Comy got out there, Okay,
so benjiam Comy gets fired, rightfully. So Christopher Ray comes in.
We're hoping that he'll be better. He wasn't. He wasn't
any better at all. And so it ramped up very
(10:55):
strongly in the summer of twenty twenty when we noticed
that the FBI was doing virtually nothing to stop these
violent writers from burning down our country. And then fast
forward to January sixth of twenty twenty one, the FBI
went full force for misdemeanors, and they did that for
four straight years. But yet when our country was getting
(11:16):
burned to the ground, virtually no response. January sixth, full
force and that happened over and over and over at
the FBI. So and then the social justice warrior email.
I started feeling like I worked for a social justice
warrior club rather than a law enforcement agency. And I
(11:38):
talked about this. My best friend was killed. She was
shot and killed in the line of duty executing a
warrant against this child predator. There was no SWAT team
for her. Yet they were liberally sending SLAT resources in
the same time frame for January sixth misdemeanors, but yet
no SLAT team to the most violent offender that the
(11:59):
FBI takes down. And now we have two dead FBI agents.
Others were shot, but yet it was just so blatant.
And then the FBI didn't even tell us what happened.
They didn't even tell us what happened, but yet I
got a DEI email almost every single day. Can you
imagine how sad that was. My friend is dead. I
(12:19):
don't know what's happened, but yet I need to be
informed that there's nineteen different clubs at the FBI for
social destinari or purposes. I wanted no part of that.
That's not why I joined. And sadly, a lot of
people like myself walked away from the bureau. But the
good part now is I do believe in redemption, and
(12:41):
I do believe that there are so many good people
still at the FBI, and the key is proper leadership
and bringing the right people on board and getting the
FBI back on track.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
As always, Nicole Parker encourage you guys to follow her
on social media. Thank you for sharing your store and
thank you for giving us feedback on this. I wanted
to make sure you came on when I saw it happen.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
All right, Well, I love y'all so much, and keep
up the good work and God bless y'all.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Thank you so much. Nicole Parker will share her social
handles as well. You see her a lot on Fox News.
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Speaker 3 (14:35):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Thanks to
Nicole Parker, who was just on with us former FBI agent.
I wanted to play this cut for you guys. MSNBC
just had to apologize on air. I don't think you've
seen this yet, Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Hell, it's been spending more than at the FBI office.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
This is what they said on MSNBC that they felt
the need to address or apologize for.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Correct Listen and now let's circle back to a segment
from Friday Show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Frank for Gluzy was on that morning during this hour
discussing the work of administration officials.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
At the end of that segment, for Glucy said, the
FBI Director Cash Pateel has reportedly been more visible at
nightclubs that at his office at FBI headquarters. This was
a misstatement.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
We have not verified that claim.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I feel pretty good that he's been in FBI headquarters
more than he's been in nightclubs. I think that is
pretty easy to verify. But that wasn't that just a
snarky comment and not they didn't mean it right. I
think this is interesting because it shows you how worried
these networks are now about getting hit once again for
lying about something such that they might even be overcompensating
(15:51):
on some of these factual issues where I mean that
that to me is something that clearly designed to be
like hyperbolic attack but not literal I don't think that
whoever was at MSNBC who said he's been at nightclubs
more than he's been the FBI was saying that that
is a factual statement, right, But they are certainly freaked
(16:15):
out about the possibility of saying anything that could get
them and get them in a place where they could
be sued.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Let's be honest. I mean Trump has gone out there
and sued these different if that's for lying about Trump.
But Cash Metell's the FBI director, he could probably do
the same thing. Yeah, I've never seen the disarray that
we see right now from all of our It's like
we don't have any worthy opponents anymore. I don't know
what else to say. They're trying to try to get
(16:41):
something going, and it's it's pretty sad to watch the
whole thing, and they're just not up to the task.
Right now. Trump has kind of just defeated the He's
just defeated the anti Trump media, and they have to
figure out why they exist beyond hating Trump, because for
a decade now, that's the only reason they've gotten up
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, I think this segues perfectly. I said we would
play it. Speaking of defeating your enemies. Roger Goodell and
the NFL just came and kissed the ring in the
Oval Office. Trump announced the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft
is going to be on the National Mall, which, if
you remember the relationship between them, this is a crazy moment.
We haven't played this, I think cut thirty.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
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that's a big thing, will be held right here in
our nation's capital, Washington, DC, on the National Mall, and
you get a little glimpse of it. I don't think
I was just saying to Roger, I don't think there's
ever been anything like that. That's a good idea, of fact,
(17:44):
maybe we could use it for other things. Also have
an idea.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's going to be something that nobody else will ever
be able to duplicate that I don't suspect.
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welcome back into Clay and Buck. Is Trump running for
(18:58):
a third term. He loves to talk about it because
the media gets in a total panic over the whole thing,
although I would just point out that what do they
do really now? They just cover Trump. That's all. That's
all that they exist to do, and they kind of
need it, especially over at MSNBC. I tried to watch
(19:21):
maybe this is like an addiction that I can't shake.
I tried to watch a little bit of Morning Joe
this morning. Just oh, no, so boring. I know. I
went back to it, you know, you know, Morning Joe
sent me a U up text and I was like, okay, fine,
you know, I'll respond. So I try to watch. It's
so boring and worthless that I turn it off. Honestly,
in ten minutes. I couldn't even couldn't even get through
(19:41):
a full segment. It was just such a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Is it fair to say that in the combination of
saying this was the best version of Biden and then
showing up to Ben the need to Trump, that basically
that show just doesn't matter anymore. I mean, yeah, the way,
at this rate, at this rate, Joe and Meek are
going to be selling sham wows in about six to
twelve months. I mean, it's really it's tough. It's tough
over there.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know it's a it's a bit like watching one
big slow motion funeral for their careers. But anyway, Yeah,
the media is having a tough time. We'll talk about
this Trump third term stuff in a second. I just
have a question, Clay, just a curiosity things. I know
you'll know this because I seem to recall finding out
at some point years ago that because the NFL Commissioner
they're going to do the draft now on the launch
(20:23):
so the president has now we played that audio a
minute ago. Doesn't the NFL commissioner make like forty million
dollars a year or just something completely outrageous. I feel
like I could do.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
That job and I don't even know anything about football,
probably more than forty million a year now. And the
way they justify it is he's the CEO basically of
the NFL, but each of the thirty two NFL teams
kicks in like a million and a half dollars, so
rounding basis like that isn't that much. But I think
(20:55):
it's the best job in sports, and I think it is,
to your point, also the easiest job in sports, because
people love football and all you have to do is
not be a complete and total moron, and you can
run that business. This is the classic thing I think
that people always need to remember that there are a
lot of jobs out there that are really hard to
(21:17):
get and not very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right It's like a lot of people want the job.
I'm not saying it's easy to become that person or
to get that role, but it's not hard to do.
It's not hard to do, dude, You or I could
be you know, tenurre at Harvard professors tomorrow, Like very
hard job to get, but yeah, way easier than what
we're doing right now. And I love our jobs, our jobs.
(21:41):
I can't believe we get paid to do this, But
there are a lot of jobs out there, and I
just think NFL commissioner gets just like go to meetings
and talk about sports all day and make I mean,
how many players make thirty or forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I would increasingly more, and they would argue partly because
of his leadership, but yeah, like, if you're a star
quarterback in the NFL, now you make fifty million dollars.
A few receivers make really big money defensive ends, but
Roger Goodell is probably higher paid than ninety five percent
of NFL players at least maybe ninety Yeah, ninety five
(22:16):
is probably a good guess. And but I think the
best job. I think that is an amazing job. I
still think the best job in media relative to pay.
You know, Judge Judy makes over fifty million dollars a year.
I've talked about this before because I think it's the
best job anywhere in media. And she only works thirty
(22:36):
days a year or something. They tape all those shows
bang bang bang, so she barely has to be on
set or in studio. Otherwise she can just travel around
the world for the other eleven months out of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Basically, But when some guy refuses to return the hoes
that he borrowed from his neighbor and the damages are
in excess of thirty or forty dollars, you need Judge
Judy to just be like, excuse me, sir, do you
I think I could do that job.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I think I could do Judge Clay. Judge Judy's eighty
five years old. I think if they let me play
the role of judge. I mean, I've got the law background.
I think I could do that gig. And I might retire.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
About I don't even have that law background, and I
could do that gig, the easiest gig in the world,
you know. But I mean that's the best fifty million
to work thirty days a year, and really, I mean,
that's not a high stress job. It's fun. You're trying
to solve relatively inconsequential I've read about lady. It's not
even a legal rather, it's not even a true court proceeding.
(23:42):
It's binding arbitration. So she is just in the role
of arbitrator for low, basically low stakes disputes.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
My understanding is they go and they grab the small
claims court cases that they think are interesting, get both
parties to sign that they will agree to be bound
by whatever her judgment is, and she's the art manor
and basically all they have to do is just find
somewhat interesting cases that they think their audience will respond
well to, probably doing interviews to find out whether or
(24:12):
not the plaintiff and defendant are also entertaining.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I used to watch people score back in the day
with Judge Wabner. I think Judge Wapner is the kind
of the og. I'm he may be the goat of
the of the fake judge presiding over minor disputes with people,
because I used to watch him too back in the day,
so I mean he was he was definitely the guy
(24:35):
that went that took this into the stratosphere. And then
he had Judge Joe Brown. He had all these different
guys who were trying to be wapner, but Judy is
the one who's made the most money. And I'm also
not just realizing if you guys all push Clay into
actually doing this Alcatraz swim like I can't. I can't
leave my I can't leave my wingman. You know, I'm
gonna have to get in a wet suit too. And
I'm not as buoyant as I used to be, so
(24:56):
this is a little bit concerning, I'll be honest with you.
You know, flotation is it's easier when you got a
little extra to love on you. So I've lost some
buoyancy in the last year.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, I'm told that the challenge is just to avoid
getting swept out to sea, so I you know, that
is a that's a pretty substantial and said, good life lesson.
And if we do see a big fin in the water,
the good news is I don't have to outswim the shark.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just have to outswim clay. So you know what
I mean. It's got to figure out which direction I
got to go. It like some old joke about a
bear in the woods. I'm sure you've heard that one
right When the guy, yeah, that's the bear with the
two hikers, He's like, why are you taking off your
hiking boots and putting on your sneakers? Because I don't
have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. Yeah,
it's true.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Speaking of runs, this is disappointing. Brian Kemp, governor of Georgia,
has just announced to the Atlanta Journal Constitution this is
breaking literally right now, that he will not run for
Senate in the open Georgia Senate seat in twenty twenty six. Well,
let's hope Republicans don't decide to lose a fourth winnable
(25:57):
Senate seat in that state.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That would be nice. Wait, but we mentioned this third, yes,
third run thing right with the with the president. With
President Trump running for a third time, He talked about
this on NBC on their morning show Meet the Press.
This has caught four. Let's hear what the man himself said.
The Trump organization is selling hats that say Trump twenty
twenty eight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Are you seriously considering a third term, mister president, even
though it's prohibited by the Constitution? Or is this about
staying politically viable?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I will say this, so many people want me to
do it. I have never had requests so strong as that.
But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge,
you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's
constitutional that they're not allowing you to do it or
anything else. But there are many people selling the twenty
twenty eight hat. But this is not something I'm looking
(26:50):
to do. I'm looking to have four great years and
turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a
great Republican to carry it forward.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay, Clay, this is Trump being real for or you know,
this is him being serious for a moment. He's like, look, guys,
like it's not not really running for a third term.
I want to have a grade four years. So the
media with their he's a dictator, he's a fascist. Okay,
he just likes to poke you, just like we've said
all along, not a surprise. Here's what I think is interesting.
He doesn't say who the successor is and I've said
(27:24):
this all along and that's but I don't think there is.
I don't think this is in any way a judgment
on JD. Vance from Trump. I think Trump so far
has has nothing but good feelings and good you know,
basically everything that jad Vance done I think has been
on points since he's been the vice president. I don't
think he's done anything that Trump wouldn't say Greade high five.
(27:45):
It's not about that. It was interesting when she raised
this about well are you going to be in the
game going forward? I think that Trump, as long as
he is around, is going to be in the position
of Republican k maker, and he wants to see how
things develop. He doesn't want to get ahead of himself
and anoint anybody to success or this early. Even though
(28:09):
he has a vice president. You know, that's kind of
a tradition that's not really or is shoulding. It's a tradition.
You know, vice president doesn't mean that you were the
nominee the next time around if you have two terms.
You know, a lot of people very happy with what
Marco Rubio has been doing a secretary of state. How
do you see that? Because to me, the interesting part
of this is more Trump positioning himself going forward as
(28:31):
as king maker and not Trump's going to run a
third time. He's not going to run a third time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I really thought it was interesting that he specifically shouted
out JD Vance and Marco Rubia because what it immediately
made me think of buck was it took me back
to the twenty sixteen sweepstakes when Obama set down Joe
Biden and said, hey, my pick is gonna be Hillary. Now,
there's obviously not the same mental cognition related issues for
(28:59):
even Marco Rubio or jd Vance at play, but the
fact that Trump mentioned both made me kind of wonder
how much of this will be a coronation of JD
Vance And jd has pointed out, Hey, if things go
well for three years, I think there'll be a lot
of opportunities for people who want to run. But how
many challengers will jd Vance actually end up with It's
(29:22):
hard to forecast right now, but inside of the administration,
Rubio is obviously very liked by Trump. He's got four
different jobs right now, and JD Vance was the pick. Remember,
if I don't I believe I'm correct the final three
that Trump considered were JD. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Doug Bergham,
(29:43):
And there were a lot of people pushing for Burghum
and Rubio and a lot of people pushing for Vance too,
but that seems to have been the final three that
Trump made the decision about. And I just kind of
wonder how this is going to all shake out because
he seems to really like Rubio and he seems to
obviously really like JD.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Vance.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Is it possible those guys run together and have a
unity ticket or are we going to see another, you know,
Donnie Brook like we saw in twenty twenty six, twenty sixteen,
where you have nineteen or twenty people running and you're
not sure who the who the pick's going to be. Well,
if this administration continues on the path that it's currently on,
I think that it's very likely that de facto, the
(30:26):
next Republican nominee will be whoever Donald Trump says it
should be. Now, does that mean that he relishes that
it's a bit like being on the Apprentice?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Does that mean that he relishes that position or does
that mean that he likes to be the elder statesman
who gets to preside over whatever that contest looks like,
you know, be the guy who's more just kind of
overseeing it instead of having his guy or his gal. Look,
(30:55):
I know it's early for this in a sense, but
it's also not that early because in the year this
is already, this is gonna be a thing where people
are making moves. This is why after the mid term
this starts. It's gonna start. I mean, this is why
having a one term lock in for Trump means that
this conversation is gonna We're gonna be having election conversations
(31:16):
a lot sooner than would be anticipated, because when you
have a first term president when he's running again, the
assumption is that it's him and everyone knows that, and
so you don't have that same jump to position for
the primary. And I think this time around there will
be before you know it, it'll be there. And the
good news for the Republicans is, I mean truly a
(31:37):
deep bench. And the way I think you can just
see that, Clay is there are a whole bunch of
people already around Trump who if they became the nominee,
a lot of maga people would say, fantastic, this is
this is carrying on the legacy.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I also think it'll be interesting on the Trump side.
We've never seen Trump as a quote unquote lane duck.
That's not me taking a shot at Trump. It's obviously
what you're called when you can't run for reelection. But
the president still would be there for all of twenty
twenty seven and most well all of twenty twenty eight,
and yet he wouldn't be angling for anything politically. So
(32:14):
what does Trump, truly unbound by any potential to run
for any political office going forward, actually look like? He
grips and rips quite a lot. Now, can you imagine
what he would be like without having to run for reelection?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, what do the executive orders look like when Trump's
only got eighteen months left in office? That's what I
want to know. Well, you know, what are those press
conferences like when he's got eighteen months left? It's already
pretty mind blowing. I didn't even know what eleven on
the dial would be.
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Speaker 1 (34:22):
We got a couple of people who want to weigh
in with me.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
As Trump is talking about bringing back Alcatraz to a prison.
I was just there a few weeks ago and I
stood on the precipice of Alcatraz and I looked out
towards San Francisco Bay and I told my son, my
seventeen year old, I said I think I could swim this.
And he said, no, Dad, you could not, and that
if you want to be entertained. A lot of people
have been weighing in during the course of today's program
(34:46):
about whether or not I can do it. There's a
poll up Patty and Ohio, you did it? How what
should I know?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay, So they have a triathlon there and it's called
Escape from Alcatraz, and so we had entered it, and
they boat you out to Alcatraz and then you just
jump off the boat when your wave is up, and
then you swimmed. I think towards sport Mason at that
time that I did it, they said it was a
mile and a half swim. However, swimming is my best event.
(35:16):
So if you are going to do this, I just
encourage you to train, do some open water swimming. You
could do it in the water.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
How old were you when you did it, Patty?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh? I was in my forties.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And was there any people that were trying to do
it that needed to be rescued? Did you see anyone
have to be right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Okay? And what was usually the reason that they had
to be rescued?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, I don't know exactly why this. He was a
football player. I don't want to say his name, but
he was a well known football player, and I don't
know if he just petered out or just got tired.
Because there are those swells. The swells are large. You
go up and then you go down.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
They're Crazyatty, did you ever have a moment where you
felt like a tug at your foot and you were like,
oh my gosh, it's got me.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Never. Never, No, I encourage it. You do it, do it,
you will, you will love it. You will be glad
you did it. You can do it. You just have
to go out there and try way.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I've thought that a shark was attacking me in the
pool when something touched my foot, So yeah, apparently he's up. Badass.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, Steven Birmingham has been waiting a long time. You
got twenty seconds, Steve.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh, Clay, Clay, Clay.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You would have to train, brother.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I know you're fit and you're not obese, and you're
not sedentary, but.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You would have to practice in that witch.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Sup because I tell you exactly how that would go.
A lot of pressure over your chest, art rate jack's up.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Your respiratory rate jacks up.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You jump in that cold water. On top of that,
you talk about claustrophobic
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