February 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Top Democrat priorities don't resonate with the majority of Americans. The stock market needs to stop being so reactive to Trump's comments. Trump's victory was a restoration in sanity. For the Dems, messaging isn't the problem; it's the message. Canada as the 51st state? Clay and Buck nerd out on history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Loucn Ou Number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton show, it
was the Great tear Fur that wasn't leaving Chuck Schumer
hosting an avocado in one hand and a corona in
the other and saying your super Bowl party is going
to be ruined because of Donald Trump. One thing I
would suggest, Buck, maybe the stock market needs to stop
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being as reactive to trump public commentary. I saw the
stock market was down I think like two and a
half percent this morning off the start before Mexico pledged
ten thousand troops to the border growing fentonyl They just
arrested one of the cartel leaders. And when you look
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at how the stock market has moved since it's all
basically come back, there is almost no change to the
day's activity so far. Question for you, and I'm going
to dive into the Democrat parties ongoing may your identity
crisis here for you? Do you think Trump putting Mexico's
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president on notice about border security and the fact that
he will not allow the same level of illegal drugs
crossing our border actually makes her job easier because it
makes her and Mexican government officials able to say, hey,
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our hands are tied this is the US in other words,
And I haven't heard a lot of people analyze this,
but I'm curious what you would say there has talked
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, friend of both of ours, has said,
we're prepared to attack the cartels. Mexico may say publicly, no, no, no,
this is our sovereign territory all those things, do you
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think privately through back channels they actually welcome that in
some way because it focuses the cartel's ire on the
United States as opposed to the Mexican targets. I actually
think that's under discussed, but potentially from a negotiating perspective,
one of these things where you say one thing publicly
and then are saying something else privately.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That really gets into I think it's really interesting theory,
and it gets into a level of understanding the cartels.
Maybe we should bring on And if you know who
Joan Grillo is, I've interviewed. I love to talk to
a cartel expert. Fascinating. He's lived in Mexico for almost
thirty years. I think he's a British guy and he's
really just been covering the cartels. He was on a
Rogan show a while back. But I think getting an
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understanding of how en meshed are the cartels with local
government national government in Mexico now talking about on that
side of things, and what their response would be. I mean,
doing military strikes in Mexico without the Mexican government's approval
or authority, is that's a that's a thorny that's a
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thorny thing to try to grab onto.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I doubt that's in the near future.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
However, if the Mexican government increasingly feels like it's pushed
into a corner by Trump on these issues, as sending
ten thousand troops of the border seems to be an
indication of we could see a change in their posture.
And so, you know, it's basically clay. I think it's
too early to know, but you ask of how does
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this affect politics internally in Mexico and what is the
response going to be. I mean, there's going to be
a lot of ire against Trump no matter what on
this stuff. But that's kind of the point. He's trying
to shake things up, He's trying to rattle cages. This
is not meant to be a big warm hug from
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Trump to the Mexican government.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean so far, I just feel like, now Trump's
got He's just racking up so many wins that I
would be or anyone I think should be very slow
to is always fine, But to be overly negative about
the outlook I think doesn't make much sense given the
recent track record. I mentioned Chuck Schumer standing with avocados
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in one hand and a beer in the other and
trying to blame Trump. One reason buck that the Democrat
response has been so patently awful. There's an article in
the front page of the New York Times and it
basically is like, hey, we have no message. And I
think that's somewhat interesting, But to me, what's They had
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a DNC.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Selection over the weekend. A new leader was selected for
the DNC, and that new leader was elevated on the
premise of, Hey, basically, people don't know what we actually
believe that the reason we lost in twenty twenty four
was messaging and nothing else. And I actually think that's
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not true all. What the problem Democrats have is most
Americans know what they stand for and don't like it.
A poll came out from Quinnipiac over the last several
days it had Democrats said, I think it was fifty
seven or fifty eight percent disapproval, the highest level of
disapproval for the party in fifteen years. And New York
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Times today they said, what are Americans' personal priorities?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What do they want the government to focus on? And
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
If you're a politician, this would be data that obviously
would go to the essence of your job. The things
that the average American cares about the economy. Number one
healthcare primarily, I would bet buck, health care costs, affordability,
insurance crisis, all that, immigration, taxes, crime, Those are according
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to the New York Times in a poll that they
just did, the five things that Americans most care care about.
What do they say democrats care about? And I want
you to think of that and want you to think
about how that overlaps with what Americans care about. Abortion
number one thing that democrats care about the most. I
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think that that's an accurate perception. Second, LGBT policy, I
think that that is an accurate perception. Oh my god,
Third buck, climate change. Third thing that Americans believe democrats
care about the most. Fourth, the state of democracy, the
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first four things that Americans perceive Democrats to care about
the most don't rank on the five things that Americans
care about the most.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Healthcare is fifth.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
On the list, only one of their five priorities do
Americans care about Well, this is why I would offer
that Trump's victory is a necessary national corrective, that this
was a restoration of sanity, and the Democratic Party was
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truly delusional. I mean, I think the Democrat Party has
been rooted in delusion for years, but it reached a
really a pinnacle. It reached a new summit, and this
is the beginning of turning this around.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It would be as though we were, let's say, if
you think of the country almost like we are talking
about let's say, securing our home, right, how do you
secure your home? And the Republicans that around and they're saying, well,
we got to check our locks have an alarm system,
And it used to be maybe Democrats would say, no,
you need to make sure that you know you've got
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you know, trip wires on the outside, or you need
to make sure your neighbors have a neighbor would watch.
That's actually more like Democrats a neighborhood watch program or
something and now when we say let's secure our home,
meaning this country, democrats are saying, I'm worried about the boogeyman. Yeah,
I'm worried about you know, a monster in the closet.
And you're sitting there looking at me. You're like, that's
not even a thing. What are you talking about? How
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can climate change be one of the biggest concerns that
Democrats have that there's nothing even if they were right,
it's not going to change, meaning that no one's gonna stop.
You know, we have one hundred and fifty or one
hundred and forty year fossil fuel infrastructure, as was well
stated in Landman, Right, Yeah, this isn't gonna change. China's
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not going to change, India is not gonna change. They're
sitting around whining about nonsense as the most important thing
in the country.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
At least climate change. You can argue, there's something to
be done to me. The craziest one on here, Buck,
is lgbt policy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
What do they want? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And the data reflects interestingly, Buck, only four percent of
Americans care the most about lgbt Q issues. Probably the
four percent of America that tends to be LBGTQ ish
would be my argument there. But they say Democrats thirty
one percent of Americans say it's Democrats top priority. It's
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just such a fundamental misapprehension of the national mood.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You've seen, But Clay, you've seen that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
The Trump administration, for example, I think has again if
I ever say something that's not this stuff is happening
so fast online.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But there's been a change.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think they've removed from some government websites the T
meaning you know, the trans components of all of this,
or at least that's you know, this is in process
where it's lgb you know, you said it, you go, okay,
they're so concerned with LGB T member. It was lgbt
q I A plus under Biden, lgb t q I
A plus. Do not forget that is the acronym that
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they were forcing us all to say.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And as if Joe Biden could remember more than two
or three of those left.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I mean, can you imagine if you actually, when he's
giving a speech, said hey, what's the I, what's the A?
You know, hey, Joe, you're president. I don't know what
They used him as a as a you know, intersex, they.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Used that's what I'm here for. They used, Actually, no,
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
By the way, I don't even know every now and
then there are that are out there is interse I
don't what is intersex?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like you're both.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It means you're between male and female, you're something, go
back something else, you shift like one day. No, no,
that's bisexual or I'm sorry, No, you're talking about you're
talking about your identity Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Pan sexual is this is so ridiculous. Pan Sexual is
where you can just be like anything, right, You're into
every You're into everything in terms of your sexual preference.
And what is every sex letter? Your your gender is
in between male and female. You're neither male nor female.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So but but hold on, so this is yes, it's crazy, right,
But but what what you see is when they when
you have the Democrats say that LGBT rights or whatever
are the top five issue.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Number three on the list? Number no, Number two and
two on their list. According to the American public.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A lot of a lot of gay and lesbian Americans
in particular, I think have figured out that it's really
all about the tea for the Democrats. Yes, you know
you know, gay, gay and lesbian Americans can get married
in all fifty states.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Have equal rights in all fifty states.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, you go, what is what is the great
challenge of the lgbt Q I plus community. You know,
the challenges that the gay and lesbian community have mirror
the challenges that every other American has, because they're just
like every other American under the law and and otherwise.
And so then it's just about like, do we need
to trans kids? And I think you know you and
I have have gay friends in the conservative movement, for example,
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who look at this and they're incredibly not only opposed
to it, but angry that somehow being gay is supposed
to be wrapped in Yeah, with I think a twelve
year old needs puberty blockers. And if you don't think
that's a good idea, you're a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know what's interesting?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Tells you I would submit to you, Buck, And I
don't know if we've gotten data on this. I bet
Trump got more gay and lesbian support in twenty twenty
four than any Republican presidential candidate ever has in history.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like that, I bet on that too.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I wouldn't take the other side of that bet yeah,
by the way, we can talk about this a little
bit more.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
What does the American public perceive the Republican Party to
care about? Immigration, the economy, taxes, the things that they
actually care about.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Sometimes we overthink things.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The party that does the best job of representing the
American public typically is the party that is talking about
the things that the American public is most concerned about.
Democrats don't have a messaging issue, buck, they have a
party issue. Well, the Republican Party has actually become the
party of we care about whether you can safely walk
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down the street, whether you're able to pay your bills,
whether you're able to you know, compete in the in
the job market fairly, job marketplace fairly, you know, the
things that actually affect you and the things that actually matter.
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And the Democrats, as you've been laying out, are the
party of imaginary you know, like like tilting at windmills
and imaginary challenges. And these are things in some cases,
like with climate change, it's just nuts. And that's why
they're even the New York Times are saying, guys, we
got to come up with something else. This can't be
Well that the problem Clay is that this is who
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they are as a party. Now, this is not a
you know, this is not some digrect from the main
the meat of what it is that they really this
is who Democrats are. It's about trans and climate change
and democracy and anti you know, on Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That is what their party has become. What is their
economic message?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So the messaging isn't the problem. Americans have gotten it
and they've rejected it. Right, this is important and Democrats
still haven't realized it because you know what it requires
buck looking in the mirror and being like, hey.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh yeah, we're freaking crazy, and I almost curse there, Like,
people know what we stand for and they don't like it.
They can't they can't conceive that their policy ideas could
be so soundly rejected.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
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Canada, our neighbor to the north.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Perhaps an interesting future ahead for US Canada relations, That's
one way of putting it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Some people are saying, probably going to be very different.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here is Donald Trump himself talking about I don't know
a vision of Canada going forward playing what I'd like
to see.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Canada become our fifty first state. We give them protection,
military protection. We don't need them to build our cars.
I'd rather see Detroit or South Carolina or any one
of our Tennessee, any one of our states build the cars.
They could do it very easily.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We don't need them for the cars.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
We don't need them for lumber, We don't need them
for anything. We don't need them for energy. We have
more energy than they do. We don't need them for energy.
So I say, why.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Why are we willing to lose between one hundred billion
and two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need
them as a state.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's different Clay fifty first state. He says, that's just
what the President said.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right, we need to have more fun with this
and we come back Buck because as a history nerd,
the geographic scope of the country, I'm fascinated by, like
I'll give you one that's going to leave you like
kind of in disbelief. I don't know if we've talked about
this before, you know what, the worst decision, arguably any
state has ever made. When it comes to geography, the
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state of Alabama turned down the Panhandle of Florida.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To clay the Gulf of America.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Right there, the Gulf of America, Alabama has a small
part Orange Beach Golf Shores, beautiful area they chose not
to take from Florida the Panhandle. It theoretically has altered
the entire trajectory of American political history because that is
the most conservative part of Florida. I want to talk
about that, and also how Canada ended up being independent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
This is something that I've dove into before.
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Trump moving at the speed of government at a minimum,
but he I mean the speed of business at a minimum,
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but much faster than government typically moves, and stacking up
wins all over the place. And as we went to break,
we were talking about some sort of crazy geographic quirks.
What I will say about Trump talking about Canada becoming
a fifty first state. First of all, logically not a
great idea because it probably would give Let's just talk
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about the law. Let's pretend that Canada wanted to be
a fifty first state. Both of those Senate seats are
going left wing every year, you're basically getting two more Vermont.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Senators, right.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't think that AIDS and A bets the overall
American political process, and so I think that the idea
is not necessarily one that has a beneficial long range future.
I understand the concept of hey, inside of the federalism framework,
we don't have to worry about out the trade disputes
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and issues in tariffs that exist in North America. I
also understand the argument that basically Canada is around the
size a little bit smaller I believe of than California,
and so the concept of it being one state.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Now, if you wanted to pick a rural part.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Of Canada and make it the fifty first state and
then a you know, very cosmopolitan city based fifty second state,
and so the Senate seats canceled off, I actually think
that would be the more rational way to handle it personally.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But that's a dispute that what's happened back in the day.
We have an idea, and I think what Trump has
challenged on it that borders and territory are basically fixed
in place because for much of North America, in most
of our lives, the map has been set. But if
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you are a history nerd, buck, I love old Man
apps because you can see, oh, here is the here
is the Louisiana purchase, Like this is the French territory,
like there are maps that kids were taught in America
about that being in existence.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I have the only things of value hanging on my
walls are really old maps. I have a John Speed
map from the seventeenth century, so it's really a page
from an atlas. I have that framed here. I also
have David Burr map. David Burr was New York State's
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cartographer and in eighteen twenty nine, if to remember, this
is before this is when there was no Google Earth, right,
So cartographers were really necessary and it's important for business,
important for development, important for getting you know, to great
on Ethel's house up in Buffalo, like you needed to
know where the roads were and what was going on.
So he did a map of actually Manhattan in eighteen
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twenty nine. That was part of the campaign to make
me make New York the Great American city over Philadelphia,
which had been the great American city up until about
you know, eighteen twenty nine. That's right around when the
shift started to happen for the commercial center and everything else.
So yeah, I haven't anyway, Sorry, you got me excited
with your nerd map talk. I got the only thing
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that I spend money on that's like a sort of
a keepsake other than firearms.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I guess those are not really Oh yeah, they're keepsakes.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is I have antique maps on my walls hundreds of
years old.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So what I love about them is that they show
you that history isn't fixed, and that much of what
we contemplate as decided was at one point very undecided
about what the countries would look like, about where the
borders would be. And obviously many times that comes about
as a result of war, but it can also come
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from land purchases, treaties, all these things. I mention Canada
because if you go back and look at the Revolutionary War,
it was very much popped at that point in time
that much of Canada, Quebec in particular, could have ended
up a part of the United States, and maybe Buck
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should have ended up a part of the United States
from a purely economic perspective, but the war ended up
moving south the Revolutionary War, and so the major battlegrounds
again for the history nerds out there, that started off
when we were fighting. Remember before Benedict Arnold was the
greatest turncoade. He was one of the great American heroes
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of the early parts of the war. We moved very
much from the northern border in our battles all the
way down south, and so we ended up walking away
from the idea of Canada being part of the American Revolution.
But there is a subtle twist of the historical record
that would have had Canada as a part of the
United States for all this time.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I have an excellent book here on my shelf. This
is the Clay and buck Nerdouer brought to you by
nerds all over, Crucible of War by Fred Anderson, which
is about the Seven Years War, also known as the
French and Indian War, and it goes into just a
fascinating detail about you know, people don't think of this really, Clay,
but the French had forts, you know, they had built
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forts in and around the trading post. But that became
really the frontier and British and the French smacked together
there and that led to and the French and Indian War,
and of course the Indian allies of the French and
then the British as well played a critical role of
miss and we then things didn't go so well for
them after.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But you know, we don't think of.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This as a an area, a land mass that was
being fought over by imperial powers at the time, and
that it really was quite arbitrary and things could have
been quite different at the time, you know, afterwards, based
upon a few battles and a few relatively you know,
fortuitous happenstance situations.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, let me give you my craziest decision any states
ever made when it came to territory. The state of
Alabama was offered before anybody knew that the sandy white
beaches of the Gulf of America would become some of
the most valuable real estate in all of America, the
state of Alabama, because if you look at it, it
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doesn't really make.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sense geographically, right. You have Florida, which extends as a
peninsula down and then you have the so called Panhandle, which,
if you think about, you know, like a typical pan
like a small little strip of land that runs essentially
directly south of Alabama all the way down to where
it meets Alabama. Buck they offered Florida, did the State
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of Alabama the right to take that land? Alabama, some
of you might say, this is just what Alabama politicians
have been doing for a long time, totally bungled that offer,
didn't take advantage of it, and now that.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Is the most conservative part of Florida. Now, no one
knew this in the eighteen hundreds when they were making
that choice. But if you go back and look at
elections in two thousand, certainly in two thousand, but in
many of the close elections that have occurred in our
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country where Florida was sort of the tipping point, if
all of those votes had gone to Alabama, it wouldn't
really have changed the overall outcome of the state of Alabama.
It's a very conservative, Republican leaning state. Also, it would
have made the state of Alabama infinitely wealthier because the
property along the Gulf Coast is again some of the
most valuable in our entire nation. Now instead they have
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a tiny little pinprick Alabama does. If you look at
the way the map works of the Gulf Coast, and
the state of Florida has the most conservative ribbon running
right along the Gulf coast. That is the Panhandle from
basically the Florida Bama for those of you who know
that bar which is a fabulous bar buck, half of
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it's in Alabama, half of it's in Florida. It's right
on the on the beautiful the Gulf of America. It's
an amazing spot, all the way down, all the way
to the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
You can be in the state of Florida. Didn't. Nobody
knows this story. Didn't. It's funny you it would have
been living on the Alabama coast. Clay.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
West Virginia split off from Virginia right before the Civil.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
War during the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
During the Civil War, the West Virginia the because it
was a supremely mountainous region of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They never had big crops.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And uh and uh and and farms and slavery in
the same way. And so it broke off and became
an independent state during the Civil.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
War eighteen sixty. Right, I thought the refused to seceed. Yeah,
And you.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Know that's interesting because people laugh at the idea. And
you know, we sit here talk about how many listeners
we have in California and how we're you know, we
feel a strong bond with you Republicans in California and
in New York, you know, in these big blue states
because we are the voice behind enemy lines for you. Right,
you know, you're not alone We're like the transmission on
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the on the ham radio after the zombie apocalypse that says,
don't worry, like there is civilization. You can come to
these coordinates and we'll keep you safe from the zombies.
Every zombie apocalyst movie has that. But the truth is,
every time there's a conversation about a state splitting up,
people always dismissed it out of him. We've actually had
states split up into other states. Never mind no states
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being admitted into the Union.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
You talk about old maps. Back in the day they
had north and south. I think that would be longitudinal lines, right,
but the initial colonies just continued west. They didn't really
know where the boundary of the states ended. So there
are some maps like you'll North Carolina. It's not it's
not a crazy thing that North Carolina and Tennessee are
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basically on the same latitude longitude, not obviously, but you
look right across like that was the state of North
Carolina that just kept extending on into infinity until enough
people went into Tennessee and decided they were going to
create their own state.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And you know, to bring it into the current context,
I think Clay, First of all, Trump's got a lot
of negotiating going on right now regarding the Panama Canal.
There's been talk about Greenland too, and the US having
by contract, and obviously there's a whole deep history here.
We built the Panama Canal. We lost a lot of
people doing it. It was a hellish thing, people dying
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of malaria and typhus and you know, yellow fever and
all kinds of stuff. But we built the Panama Canal,
and then Jimmy Carter right decided, you know what, it's all,
it's all Panama, but the same way that you know,
why is Guama US territory? Well, it is because it
is because we made it that way, and everyone seems
kind of happy with it. There's no reason why you
(30:01):
can't have negotiations over some of these things, because a
nation is not just a land mass defined by rivers,
oceans or mountains, right.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Always there's always borders that are arbitrary that are drawn,
and there's competing polities, competing nation states that make determinations
about who should be in charge of what. In the
context of Greenland, you know what it's it's Oh, it's
been a part of Denmark for such a long time.
Why Now, look, if the people of Greenland don't want
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to be a part of America, that's up to them, fine.
But if they wanted to vote in favor of joining
US as there, why is that such a There's nothing
crazy about that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's funny. We think that's crazy. Why is that? Or
rather people say that's crazy? Why is that crazy?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Because in most of our lives, maps have remained relatively
fixed in our geographic arena, and so that's this is
why I think is so important about this. Trump is
basically signaling the country isn't settled, right, We still have
more growth and opportunity ahead of us, both economically but
also maybe geographically. And talking about it, remember when he
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first started talking about Greenland, everybody thought it was crazy.
Now I think there's a decent number of people out
there that are like, yeah, you know what, they may
vote to leave Denmark, stop being a colony of Denmark,
and maybe they would like to be supported by the
United States.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We've had a new country. Uh, just over the last
decade or so, Clay on the spot, what is the
new country? TikTok, TikTok. We got a million dollar question
for Clay. I don't know who the million is coming from.
I'm just saying it would be now.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean in Africa, it seems like they were coming
up with new countries all the time. So I'm very
close in Africa, you're close. South Sudan, South Sudan, South Sudan, the.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Newest not not doing well these days, I might add,
by the way, no one pays any attention speaking of
not big rock concerts about it.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Speaking of Africa, Buck, only fifty percent of Africa has electricity.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Do you know this?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Only fifty percent of there's a big graphic about It's
like ninety percent of some African countries still don't have electricity.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, when you say electricity, you mean wait, are we
talking about twenty four to seven access to it? Or
are we talking about I think just like it's wired
and you have, you know, reliable access to are we
talking about by land mass? But like the population centers
in Africa overwhelmingly have electricity in terms of from the
New York Times that I took a photo of over
(32:28):
the weekend that I was staggered maybe considered to be Yeah,
that showed the percentage of many of these countries that
still do not have electricity when I was in Afghanistan.
I think the estimate was that roughly twenty percent of
the country had access to reliable Like this is the thing, right,
reliable electricity because you can always travel and get to
(32:49):
a place as a generator. So I think, you know,
I want to see what the New York Times is saying.
How you kind of frame it really matters. But about
twenty percent of the country had real electric access and
twenty percent of the country could read.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That was the statistic they had.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
So here's a stat for you, buck, forty five percent
of Nigeria doesn't have electricity. I just sent it to you.
This is nerd out stuff. We'll talk about it when
we come back. This was in the New York Times
over the weekend because I took a picture of it.
It's kind of blown away. I think you've got the
read you're nerding out now on the map over I'm
it's too.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
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It was very, very interesting, which is in the New
York Times, so they do have occasionally interesting data. Electricity
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I was sitting in darkness.
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The radio kept working, but for a little while, yes,
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Speaker 3 (35:45):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let me know play the Oh you know what, I
got one thing. Maybe we can talk about this tomorrow
because I want to talk about today. Washington Examiner had
this story that Pacific Palisades rebuilt in LA. You see
this must include low income housing. Yeah, people aren't happy
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about that.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Being a Democrat sometimes means you actually have to deal
with Democrat stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And I think we should discuss how this.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
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slow rebuild, and it's going to be a very different rebuild.
But this is what happens Los Angeles.
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They're in trouble and they're dealing with the consequences of
their choices. The consequences, however, of the nation's choices have
been fabulous, and we're going to continue to break them
down with you every single day. As one victory after
another rolls in from Trump two point zero. I can't
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everybody flues everywhere
Loucn Ou Number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton show, it
was the Great tear Fur that wasn't leaving Chuck Schumer
hosting an avocado in one hand and a corona in
the other and saying your super Bowl party is going
to be ruined because of Donald Trump. One thing I
would suggest, Buck, maybe the stock market needs to stop
(00:23):
being as reactive to trump public commentary. I saw the
stock market was down I think like two and a
half percent this morning off the start before Mexico pledged
ten thousand troops to the border growing fentonyl They just
arrested one of the cartel leaders. And when you look
(00:47):
at how the stock market has moved since it's all
basically come back, there is almost no change to the
day's activity so far. Question for you, and I'm going
to dive into the Democrat parties ongoing may your identity
crisis here for you? Do you think Trump putting Mexico's
(01:07):
president on notice about border security and the fact that
he will not allow the same level of illegal drugs
crossing our border actually makes her job easier because it
makes her and Mexican government officials able to say, hey,
(01:28):
our hands are tied this is the US in other words,
And I haven't heard a lot of people analyze this,
but I'm curious what you would say there has talked
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, friend of both of ours, has said,
we're prepared to attack the cartels. Mexico may say publicly, no, no, no,
this is our sovereign territory all those things, do you
(01:50):
think privately through back channels they actually welcome that in
some way because it focuses the cartel's ire on the
United States as opposed to the Mexican targets. I actually
think that's under discussed, but potentially from a negotiating perspective,
one of these things where you say one thing publicly
and then are saying something else privately.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That really gets into I think it's really interesting theory,
and it gets into a level of understanding the cartels.
Maybe we should bring on And if you know who
Joan Grillo is, I've interviewed. I love to talk to
a cartel expert. Fascinating. He's lived in Mexico for almost
thirty years. I think he's a British guy and he's
really just been covering the cartels. He was on a
Rogan show a while back. But I think getting an
(02:35):
understanding of how en meshed are the cartels with local
government national government in Mexico now talking about on that
side of things, and what their response would be. I mean,
doing military strikes in Mexico without the Mexican government's approval
or authority, is that's a that's a thorny that's a
(02:55):
thorny thing to try to grab onto.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I doubt that's in the near future.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
However, if the Mexican government increasingly feels like it's pushed
into a corner by Trump on these issues, as sending
ten thousand troops of the border seems to be an
indication of we could see a change in their posture.
And so, you know, it's basically clay. I think it's
too early to know, but you ask of how does
(03:22):
this affect politics internally in Mexico and what is the
response going to be. I mean, there's going to be
a lot of ire against Trump no matter what on
this stuff. But that's kind of the point. He's trying
to shake things up, He's trying to rattle cages. This
is not meant to be a big warm hug from
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Trump to the Mexican government.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean so far, I just feel like, now Trump's
got He's just racking up so many wins that I
would be or anyone I think should be very slow
to is always fine, But to be overly negative about
the outlook I think doesn't make much sense given the
recent track record. I mentioned Chuck Schumer standing with avocados
(04:11):
in one hand and a beer in the other and
trying to blame Trump. One reason buck that the Democrat
response has been so patently awful. There's an article in
the front page of the New York Times and it
basically is like, hey, we have no message. And I
think that's somewhat interesting, But to me, what's They had
(04:35):
a DNC.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Selection over the weekend. A new leader was selected for
the DNC, and that new leader was elevated on the
premise of, Hey, basically, people don't know what we actually
believe that the reason we lost in twenty twenty four
was messaging and nothing else. And I actually think that's
(04:59):
not true all. What the problem Democrats have is most
Americans know what they stand for and don't like it.
A poll came out from Quinnipiac over the last several
days it had Democrats said, I think it was fifty
seven or fifty eight percent disapproval, the highest level of
disapproval for the party in fifteen years. And New York
(05:22):
Times today they said, what are Americans' personal priorities?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What do they want the government to focus on? And
I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
If you're a politician, this would be data that obviously
would go to the essence of your job. The things
that the average American cares about the economy. Number one
healthcare primarily, I would bet buck, health care costs, affordability,
insurance crisis, all that, immigration, taxes, crime, Those are according
(05:54):
to the New York Times in a poll that they
just did, the five things that Americans most care care about.
What do they say democrats care about? And I want
you to think of that and want you to think
about how that overlaps with what Americans care about. Abortion
number one thing that democrats care about the most. I
(06:15):
think that that's an accurate perception. Second, LGBT policy, I
think that that is an accurate perception. Oh my god,
Third buck, climate change. Third thing that Americans believe democrats
care about the most. Fourth, the state of democracy, the
(06:40):
first four things that Americans perceive Democrats to care about
the most don't rank on the five things that Americans
care about the most.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Healthcare is fifth.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
On the list, only one of their five priorities do
Americans care about Well, this is why I would offer
that Trump's victory is a necessary national corrective, that this
was a restoration of sanity, and the Democratic Party was
(07:12):
truly delusional. I mean, I think the Democrat Party has
been rooted in delusion for years, but it reached a
really a pinnacle. It reached a new summit, and this
is the beginning of turning this around.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It would be as though we were, let's say, if
you think of the country almost like we are talking
about let's say, securing our home, right, how do you
secure your home? And the Republicans that around and they're saying, well,
we got to check our locks have an alarm system,
And it used to be maybe Democrats would say, no,
you need to make sure that you know you've got
(07:48):
you know, trip wires on the outside, or you need
to make sure your neighbors have a neighbor would watch.
That's actually more like Democrats a neighborhood watch program or
something and now when we say let's secure our home,
meaning this country, democrats are saying, I'm worried about the boogeyman. Yeah,
I'm worried about you know, a monster in the closet.
And you're sitting there looking at me. You're like, that's
not even a thing. What are you talking about? How
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can climate change be one of the biggest concerns that
Democrats have that there's nothing even if they were right,
it's not going to change, meaning that no one's gonna stop.
You know, we have one hundred and fifty or one
hundred and forty year fossil fuel infrastructure, as was well
stated in Landman, Right, Yeah, this isn't gonna change. China's
(08:32):
not going to change, India is not gonna change. They're
sitting around whining about nonsense as the most important thing
in the country.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
At least climate change. You can argue, there's something to
be done to me. The craziest one on here, Buck,
is lgbt policy.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
What do they want? That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And the data reflects interestingly, Buck, only four percent of
Americans care the most about lgbt Q issues. Probably the
four percent of America that tends to be LBGTQ ish
would be my argument there. But they say Democrats thirty
one percent of Americans say it's Democrats top priority. It's
(09:15):
just such a fundamental misapprehension of the national mood.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You've seen, But Clay, you've seen that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
The Trump administration, for example, I think has again if
I ever say something that's not this stuff is happening
so fast online.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But there's been a change.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I think they've removed from some government websites the T
meaning you know, the trans components of all of this,
or at least that's you know, this is in process
where it's lgb you know, you said it, you go, okay,
they're so concerned with LGB T member. It was lgbt
q I A plus under Biden, lgb t q I
A plus. Do not forget that is the acronym that
(09:54):
they were forcing us all to say.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And as if Joe Biden could remember more than two
or three of those left.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I mean, can you imagine if you actually, when he's
giving a speech, said hey, what's the I, what's the A?
You know, hey, Joe, you're president. I don't know what
They used him as a as a you know, intersex, they.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Used that's what I'm here for. They used, Actually, no,
I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
By the way, I don't even know every now and
then there are that are out there is interse I
don't what is intersex?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like you're both.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It means you're between male and female, you're something, go
back something else, you shift like one day. No, no,
that's bisexual or I'm sorry, No, you're talking about you're
talking about your identity Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Pan sexual is this is so ridiculous. Pan Sexual is
where you can just be like anything, right, You're into
every You're into everything in terms of your sexual preference.
And what is every sex letter? Your your gender is
in between male and female. You're neither male nor female.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So but but hold on, so this is yes, it's crazy, right,
But but what what you see is when they when
you have the Democrats say that LGBT rights or whatever
are the top five issue.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Number three on the list? Number no, Number two and
two on their list. According to the American public.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A lot of a lot of gay and lesbian Americans
in particular, I think have figured out that it's really
all about the tea for the Democrats. Yes, you know
you know, gay, gay and lesbian Americans can get married
in all fifty states.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Have equal rights in all fifty states.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, you go, what is what is the great
challenge of the lgbt Q I plus community. You know,
the challenges that the gay and lesbian community have mirror
the challenges that every other American has, because they're just
like every other American under the law and and otherwise.
And so then it's just about like, do we need
to trans kids? And I think you know you and
I have have gay friends in the conservative movement, for example,
(11:59):
who look at this and they're incredibly not only opposed
to it, but angry that somehow being gay is supposed
to be wrapped in Yeah, with I think a twelve
year old needs puberty blockers. And if you don't think
that's a good idea, you're a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know what's interesting?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Tells you I would submit to you, Buck, And I
don't know if we've gotten data on this. I bet
Trump got more gay and lesbian support in twenty twenty
four than any Republican presidential candidate ever has in history.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Like that, I bet on that too.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I wouldn't take the other side of that bet yeah,
by the way, we can talk about this a little
bit more.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
What does the American public perceive the Republican Party to
care about? Immigration, the economy, taxes, the things that they
actually care about.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Sometimes we overthink things.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
The party that does the best job of representing the
American public typically is the party that is talking about
the things that the American public is most concerned about.
Democrats don't have a messaging issue, buck, they have a
party issue. Well, the Republican Party has actually become the
party of we care about whether you can safely walk
(13:11):
down the street, whether you're able to pay your bills,
whether you're able to you know, compete in the in
the job market fairly, job marketplace fairly, you know, the
things that actually affect you and the things that actually matter.
(13:31):
And the Democrats, as you've been laying out, are the
party of imaginary you know, like like tilting at windmills
and imaginary challenges. And these are things in some cases,
like with climate change, it's just nuts. And that's why
they're even the New York Times are saying, guys, we
got to come up with something else. This can't be
Well that the problem Clay is that this is who
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they are as a party. Now, this is not a
you know, this is not some digrect from the main
the meat of what it is that they really this
is who Democrats are. It's about trans and climate change
and democracy and anti you know, on Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
That is what their party has become. What is their
economic message?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So the messaging isn't the problem. Americans have gotten it
and they've rejected it. Right, this is important and Democrats
still haven't realized it because you know what it requires
buck looking in the mirror and being like, hey.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh yeah, we're freaking crazy, and I almost curse there, Like,
people know what we stand for and they don't like it.
They can't they can't conceive that their policy ideas could
be so soundly rejected.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
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Canada, our neighbor to the north.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Perhaps an interesting future ahead for US Canada relations, That's
one way of putting it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Some people are saying, probably going to be very different.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Here is Donald Trump himself talking about I don't know
a vision of Canada going forward playing what I'd like
to see.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Canada become our fifty first state. We give them protection,
military protection. We don't need them to build our cars.
I'd rather see Detroit or South Carolina or any one
of our Tennessee, any one of our states build the cars.
They could do it very easily.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We don't need them for the cars.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
We don't need them for lumber, We don't need them
for anything. We don't need them for energy. We have
more energy than they do. We don't need them for energy.
So I say, why.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Why are we willing to lose between one hundred billion
and two hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need
them as a state.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's different Clay fifty first state. He says, that's just
what the President said.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right, we need to have more fun with this
and we come back Buck because as a history nerd,
the geographic scope of the country, I'm fascinated by, like
I'll give you one that's going to leave you like
kind of in disbelief. I don't know if we've talked about
this before, you know what, the worst decision, arguably any
state has ever made. When it comes to geography, the
(17:24):
state of Alabama turned down the Panhandle of Florida.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
To clay the Gulf of America.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Right there, the Gulf of America, Alabama has a small
part Orange Beach Golf Shores, beautiful area they chose not
to take from Florida the Panhandle. It theoretically has altered
the entire trajectory of American political history because that is
the most conservative part of Florida. I want to talk
about that, and also how Canada ended up being independent.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
This is something that I've dove into before.
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Trump moving at the speed of government at a minimum,
but he I mean the speed of business at a minimum,
(19:04):
but much faster than government typically moves, and stacking up
wins all over the place. And as we went to break,
we were talking about some sort of crazy geographic quirks.
What I will say about Trump talking about Canada becoming
a fifty first state. First of all, logically not a
great idea because it probably would give Let's just talk
(19:27):
about the law. Let's pretend that Canada wanted to be
a fifty first state. Both of those Senate seats are
going left wing every year, you're basically getting two more Vermont.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Senators, right.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I don't think that AIDS and A bets the overall
American political process, and so I think that the idea
is not necessarily one that has a beneficial long range future.
I understand the concept of hey, inside of the federalism framework,
we don't have to worry about out the trade disputes
(20:02):
and issues in tariffs that exist in North America. I
also understand the argument that basically Canada is around the
size a little bit smaller I believe of than California,
and so the concept of it being one state.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Now, if you wanted to pick a rural part.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Of Canada and make it the fifty first state and
then a you know, very cosmopolitan city based fifty second state,
and so the Senate seats canceled off, I actually think
that would be the more rational way to handle it personally.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But that's a dispute that what's happened back in the day.
We have an idea, and I think what Trump has
challenged on it that borders and territory are basically fixed
in place because for much of North America, in most
of our lives, the map has been set. But if
(20:56):
you are a history nerd, buck, I love old Man
apps because you can see, oh, here is the here
is the Louisiana purchase, Like this is the French territory,
like there are maps that kids were taught in America
about that being in existence.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I have the only things of value hanging on my
walls are really old maps. I have a John Speed
map from the seventeenth century, so it's really a page
from an atlas. I have that framed here. I also
have David Burr map. David Burr was New York State's
(21:34):
cartographer and in eighteen twenty nine, if to remember, this
is before this is when there was no Google Earth, right,
So cartographers were really necessary and it's important for business,
important for development, important for getting you know, to great
on Ethel's house up in Buffalo, like you needed to
know where the roads were and what was going on.
So he did a map of actually Manhattan in eighteen
(21:56):
twenty nine. That was part of the campaign to make
me make New York the Great American city over Philadelphia,
which had been the great American city up until about
you know, eighteen twenty nine. That's right around when the
shift started to happen for the commercial center and everything else.
So yeah, I haven't anyway, Sorry, you got me excited
with your nerd map talk. I got the only thing
(22:17):
that I spend money on that's like a sort of
a keepsake other than firearms.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I guess those are not really Oh yeah, they're keepsakes.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Is I have antique maps on my walls hundreds of
years old.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So what I love about them is that they show
you that history isn't fixed, and that much of what
we contemplate as decided was at one point very undecided
about what the countries would look like, about where the
borders would be. And obviously many times that comes about
as a result of war, but it can also come
(22:48):
from land purchases, treaties, all these things. I mention Canada
because if you go back and look at the Revolutionary War,
it was very much popped at that point in time
that much of Canada, Quebec in particular, could have ended
up a part of the United States, and maybe Buck
(23:11):
should have ended up a part of the United States
from a purely economic perspective, but the war ended up
moving south the Revolutionary War, and so the major battlegrounds
again for the history nerds out there, that started off
when we were fighting. Remember before Benedict Arnold was the
greatest turncoade. He was one of the great American heroes
(23:32):
of the early parts of the war. We moved very
much from the northern border in our battles all the
way down south, and so we ended up walking away
from the idea of Canada being part of the American Revolution.
But there is a subtle twist of the historical record
that would have had Canada as a part of the
United States for all this time.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I have an excellent book here on my shelf. This
is the Clay and buck Nerdouer brought to you by
nerds all over, Crucible of War by Fred Anderson, which
is about the Seven Years War, also known as the
French and Indian War, and it goes into just a
fascinating detail about you know, people don't think of this really, Clay,
but the French had forts, you know, they had built
(24:15):
forts in and around the trading post. But that became
really the frontier and British and the French smacked together
there and that led to and the French and Indian War,
and of course the Indian allies of the French and
then the British as well played a critical role of
miss and we then things didn't go so well for
them after.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
But you know, we don't think of.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This as a an area, a land mass that was
being fought over by imperial powers at the time, and
that it really was quite arbitrary and things could have
been quite different at the time, you know, afterwards, based
upon a few battles and a few relatively you know,
fortuitous happenstance situations.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, let me give you my craziest decision any states
ever made when it came to territory. The state of
Alabama was offered before anybody knew that the sandy white
beaches of the Gulf of America would become some of
the most valuable real estate in all of America, the
state of Alabama, because if you look at it, it
(25:20):
doesn't really make.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Sense geographically, right. You have Florida, which extends as a
peninsula down and then you have the so called Panhandle, which,
if you think about, you know, like a typical pan
like a small little strip of land that runs essentially
directly south of Alabama all the way down to where
it meets Alabama. Buck they offered Florida, did the State
(25:42):
of Alabama the right to take that land? Alabama, some
of you might say, this is just what Alabama politicians
have been doing for a long time, totally bungled that offer,
didn't take advantage of it, and now that.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Is the most conservative part of Florida. Now, no one
knew this in the eighteen hundreds when they were making
that choice. But if you go back and look at
elections in two thousand, certainly in two thousand, but in
many of the close elections that have occurred in our
(26:19):
country where Florida was sort of the tipping point, if
all of those votes had gone to Alabama, it wouldn't
really have changed the overall outcome of the state of Alabama.
It's a very conservative, Republican leaning state. Also, it would
have made the state of Alabama infinitely wealthier because the
property along the Gulf Coast is again some of the
most valuable in our entire nation. Now instead they have
(26:42):
a tiny little pinprick Alabama does. If you look at
the way the map works of the Gulf Coast, and
the state of Florida has the most conservative ribbon running
right along the Gulf coast. That is the Panhandle from
basically the Florida Bama for those of you who know
that bar which is a fabulous bar buck, half of
(27:03):
it's in Alabama, half of it's in Florida. It's right
on the on the beautiful the Gulf of America. It's
an amazing spot, all the way down, all the way
to the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
You can be in the state of Florida. Didn't. Nobody
knows this story. Didn't. It's funny you it would have
been living on the Alabama coast. Clay.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
West Virginia split off from Virginia right before the Civil.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
War during the Civil War.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
During the Civil War, the West Virginia the because it
was a supremely mountainous region of Virginia.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
They never had big crops.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And uh and uh and and farms and slavery in
the same way. And so it broke off and became
an independent state during the Civil.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
War eighteen sixty. Right, I thought the refused to seceed. Yeah,
And you.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Know that's interesting because people laugh at the idea. And
you know, we sit here talk about how many listeners
we have in California and how we're you know, we
feel a strong bond with you Republicans in California and
in New York, you know, in these big blue states
because we are the voice behind enemy lines for you. Right,
you know, you're not alone We're like the transmission on
(28:16):
the on the ham radio after the zombie apocalypse that says,
don't worry, like there is civilization. You can come to
these coordinates and we'll keep you safe from the zombies.
Every zombie apocalyst movie has that. But the truth is,
every time there's a conversation about a state splitting up,
people always dismissed it out of him. We've actually had
states split up into other states. Never mind no states
(28:38):
being admitted into the Union.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
You talk about old maps. Back in the day they
had north and south. I think that would be longitudinal lines, right,
but the initial colonies just continued west. They didn't really
know where the boundary of the states ended. So there
are some maps like you'll North Carolina. It's not it's
not a crazy thing that North Carolina and Tennessee are
(29:03):
basically on the same latitude longitude, not obviously, but you
look right across like that was the state of North
Carolina that just kept extending on into infinity until enough
people went into Tennessee and decided they were going to
create their own state.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And you know, to bring it into the current context,
I think Clay, First of all, Trump's got a lot
of negotiating going on right now regarding the Panama Canal.
There's been talk about Greenland too, and the US having
by contract, and obviously there's a whole deep history here.
We built the Panama Canal. We lost a lot of
people doing it. It was a hellish thing, people dying
(29:41):
of malaria and typhus and you know, yellow fever and
all kinds of stuff. But we built the Panama Canal,
and then Jimmy Carter right decided, you know what, it's all,
it's all Panama, but the same way that you know,
why is Guama US territory? Well, it is because it
is because we made it that way, and everyone seems
kind of happy with it. There's no reason why you
(30:01):
can't have negotiations over some of these things, because a
nation is not just a land mass defined by rivers,
oceans or mountains, right.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Always there's always borders that are arbitrary that are drawn,
and there's competing polities, competing nation states that make determinations
about who should be in charge of what. In the
context of Greenland, you know what it's it's Oh, it's
been a part of Denmark for such a long time.
Why Now, look, if the people of Greenland don't want
(30:33):
to be a part of America, that's up to them, fine.
But if they wanted to vote in favor of joining
US as there, why is that such a There's nothing
crazy about that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's funny. We think that's crazy. Why is that? Or
rather people say that's crazy? Why is that crazy?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Because in most of our lives, maps have remained relatively
fixed in our geographic arena, and so that's this is
why I think is so important about this. Trump is
basically signaling the country isn't settled, right, We still have
more growth and opportunity ahead of us, both economically but
also maybe geographically. And talking about it, remember when he
(31:09):
first started talking about Greenland, everybody thought it was crazy.
Now I think there's a decent number of people out
there that are like, yeah, you know what, they may
vote to leave Denmark, stop being a colony of Denmark,
and maybe they would like to be supported by the
United States.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We've had a new country. Uh, just over the last
decade or so, Clay on the spot, what is the
new country? TikTok, TikTok. We got a million dollar question
for Clay. I don't know who the million is coming from.
I'm just saying it would be now.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean in Africa, it seems like they were coming
up with new countries all the time. So I'm very
close in Africa, you're close. South Sudan, South Sudan, South Sudan, the.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Newest not not doing well these days, I might add,
by the way, no one pays any attention speaking of
not big rock concerts about it.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Speaking of Africa, Buck, only fifty percent of Africa has electricity.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Do you know this?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Only fifty percent of there's a big graphic about It's
like ninety percent of some African countries still don't have electricity.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, when you say electricity, you mean wait, are we
talking about twenty four to seven access to it? Or
are we talking about I think just like it's wired
and you have, you know, reliable access to are we
talking about by land mass? But like the population centers
in Africa overwhelmingly have electricity in terms of from the
New York Times that I took a photo of over
(32:28):
the weekend that I was staggered maybe considered to be Yeah,
that showed the percentage of many of these countries that
still do not have electricity when I was in Afghanistan.
I think the estimate was that roughly twenty percent of
the country had access to reliable Like this is the thing, right,
reliable electricity because you can always travel and get to
(32:49):
a place as a generator. So I think, you know,
I want to see what the New York Times is saying.
How you kind of frame it really matters. But about
twenty percent of the country had real electric access and
twenty percent of the country could read.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That was the statistic they had.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
So here's a stat for you, buck, forty five percent
of Nigeria doesn't have electricity. I just sent it to you.
This is nerd out stuff. We'll talk about it when
we come back. This was in the New York Times
over the weekend because I took a picture of it.
It's kind of blown away. I think you've got the
read you're nerding out now on the map over I'm
it's too.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
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but she sent me is fascinating Africa electricity access map.
It was very, very interesting, which is in the New
York Times, so they do have occasionally interesting data. Electricity
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stayed on in my apartment, which was a excess. You
made it through a text telling me I think that
I think that the electrical company guys might be Clay
and Buck listeners, and they like, we're gonna give me
till three o'clock Eastern time because we did shut in.
You guys don't realize this unless you watch the video
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Uh the all power went out last week during the show,
(35:19):
and uh, I did, yeah, and so that was not ideal.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I was sitting in darkness.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
The radio kept working, but for a little while, yes,
for a while, you started to beep. Then the beeping happened,
and I had to step aside when the beeping because
it sounded like we were on the countdown to the
asteroid exploding or something in here. Uh so, yeah, we've
got we've got that going on, which is nice. I
wanted to take some calls. Do we still have any
calls up? Or do we scare them away by not
(35:45):
taking them before?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let me know play the Oh you know what, I
got one thing. Maybe we can talk about this tomorrow
because I want to talk about today. Washington Examiner had
this story that Pacific Palisades rebuilt in LA. You see
this must include low income housing. Yeah, people aren't happy
(36:07):
about that.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Being a Democrat sometimes means you actually have to deal
with Democrat stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And I think we should discuss how this.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Some of us said it's going to be a very
slow rebuild, and it's going to be a very different rebuild.
But this is what happens Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
They're in trouble and they're dealing with the consequences of
their choices. The consequences, however, of the nation's choices have
been fabulous, and we're going to continue to break them
down with you every single day. As one victory after
another rolls in from Trump two point zero. I can't
get enough of it. I know y'all can't either. We'll
see you tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel. Stay healthy,
(36:48):
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