May 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the cultural and political dynamics shaping young men in America today. With Buck Sexton out due to illness, Clay Travis leads a compelling solo hour that centers on the Democratic Party’s struggle to connect with young male voters, the cultural alienation of boys, and the broader implications for American society and politics.
Clay opens the hour by discussing a recent New York Times article detailing a $20 million Democratic initiative—codenamed SAM (Speaking with American Men)—aimed at reversing the party’s declining support among young men. He critiques the effort as tone-deaf and disconnected from the realities of modern masculinity, drawing parallels to themes in his upcoming book, Balls: How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America, which has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump.
Throughout the segment, Clay shares personal anecdotes and cultural observations that highlight the erosion of male identity in contemporary America. He recounts a moment with his son in a Target store, where the overwhelming presence of “girl power” messaging sparked a realization about the lack of positive male representation. He also discusses the impact of COVID-19 lockdowns on boys, particularly the cancellation of sports and school activities, which he argues contributed to a growing sense of disenfranchisement among young men.
Clay emphasizes that this cultural shift has led to a political realignment, with young men increasingly gravitating toward conservative values and Donald Trump. He cites data showing that men under 24 and over 65 were Trump’s strongest demographics in the 2024 election, suggesting a generational alliance rooted in shared frustrations with progressive cultural narratives.
The hour also features a call-in from a former teacher and coach who echoes Clay’s concerns, describing how boys have been marginalized in education and social settings for decades. The conversation touches on the feminization of institutions like the Boy Scouts and the dominance of female educators, which the caller believes has contributed to the suppression of traditional male behavior.
Clay critiques a recent commencement speech by CBS’s Scott Pelley at Wake Forest University, calling it a politically charged and out-of-touch address that exemplifies the media’s disconnect from everyday Americans. He argues that such speeches alienate conservative students and reflect a broader trend of left-wing ideology dominating elite institutions.
The hour concludes with a humorous yet pointed critique of “graduation inflation,” as Clay questions the necessity of ceremonies for kindergarten, fifth grade, and eighth grade, suggesting that society has become too eager to celebrate minimal achievements.
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Welcome back in appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the Tuesday edition of
the program. Have all of you had a fabulous Memorial
Day weekend and we are certainly in Romain. As we
said on Friday, thankful for everyone out there who made
the ultimate sacrifice so that all of us could have
the freedoms that are too often we take for granted.
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And I hope you took some time with your family
and friends over the weekend to contemplate that. And if
you are back with us today, we appreciate all of you.
I know a lot of people still out Buck has
got the flu, so he is out today. He says
he will be back tomorrow. I will be out. I'm
going on a family vacation before all the kids' obligations
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begin to stack up in earnest, so I will be
on the road with them. I'll be out the rest
of this week and some of next week, and then
I will be back, and then we'll be up in Washington,
d C. For a little while doing the show. Going
to be a lot of fun. There several other stories
that are out there, and I encourage you to go
download the podcast make sure you don't miss a moment.
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Great guest hits with Riley Gains and with doctor Marty
McCarey you just heard from in the second hour. It's
just us here in the third hour. And there's several
different things that I want to hit that I think
are particularly important coming out of the weekend. So I'm
going to play several of these things. But I want
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to start with Democrats are now. This is from the
New York Times doing a deep dive on what went
wrong in twenty twenty four, and they have decided that
they need to do a better job of pursuing young men.
And this is this in many ways, sounds like what
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you would say when you discover a new tribe that
has never had contact with the outside world before. Democrats
just sound completely broken when it comes to understanding how
to have a conversation with normal men out there. And
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I saw this story over the weekend in New York Times,
and I just thought to myself, Yes, we should definitely
focus on this. Democrats, you'll nail it. This is from
the New York Times. The perspectus for one new twenty
million dollar effort, obtained by the Times, aims to reverse
the erosion of Democrat support among young men, especially online.
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And again I'm reading from the New Times. It is
code named SAM, short for Speaking with American Men, a
strategic plan and promises investment to quote study the syntax,
language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.
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It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.
I have talked about this quite a lot, and this
is what my new book is about. It's about how
Democrats lost young men. And I want to tell you
a couple of analogies that are in the book. You
can go buy it. Some of you are going to
gasp a bit when you hear what it's called. But
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let me first thank President Trump for his endorsement. Some
of you may have seen this over the weekend he
posted this is President Trump. Clay Travis has a great
all caps new book coming out November fourth, twenty twenty five, Balls,
How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America. Clay is
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a highly talented commentator who is tough, smart, and gifted
with all caps common sense. He studied our historic movement
from the very beginning, truly gets Maga Maga loves him.
Pre order your copy today with a link. Again. The
book is called It's gonna be out November, but you
can get it for fourteen bucks I think right now
in Amazon Balls How Trump young Men in Sports Saved America.
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And the cover of the book has two basketballs on
the cover. And some of you are going to say,
oh my god, like you're so immature, and yes, that
probably is somewhat true, but I also want for people
to be gripped by the argument. And the cover of
a book is not surprisingly an opportunity to grab people
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and make them think about something or see something that
they may not have seen before. And so I've spent
a great deal of time in the last several months
diving into the data analyzing what exactly is going on
with young men. And I want to hit you with
a couple of stories that really are in the book.
And again, the book's going to be out in November.
(05:08):
I think you guys are really going to like it.
If you're audiobook people, I'll be reading it. Buck has
got a great new book that's going to be out
in January two, so we'll have a couple of good books.
And I imagine that he's going to be reading his
book too. So for those of you that are going
to be on the road and don't necessarily want to
read the book itself, you can get the audio version.
But it's up on Amazon. It's only fourteen bucks and
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it'll be right there. And I appreciate President Trump for
endorsing the book. They said, hey, how do you want
to announce the book? And I said, well, I'd like
for President Trump to announce it. I didn't know if
he would, But on Sunday night they popped me and said, hey,
President just he's going to be endorsing your book. He
loves it. He's excited about the concept. And Trump gets
it right Trump gets young men. But I want to
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talk to you. If you've got kids or grandkids, I
want to hit you with a couple of stories. Sometimes
we don't see the world through the eyes of people
who are of different ages than us, even though we
might see many of the same things that they do.
And I've got two stories that are examples and anecdotes
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that are in the book that really kind of crystallize
the world for me. You guys know, I have three boys,
so I think about this quite a lot right now.
They are seventeen, fourteen, and ten, one who's going to
be a rising sceenior, rising ninth grader, rising fifth grader,
so fairly different ages. But in the COVID era in
twenty twenty, my then nine year old, my middle son,
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like a lot of your kids are grandkids, was obsessed
with football cards, basketball cards, baseball cards. I love them
when I was a kid. My boys got really into
them as well. YouTube has really I think fueled this
because you unpack, you open these, you break as they
call it, these cards, and you go through and you
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look at them and they have all sorts of special cards.
Really very cool. I mean, it takes me back in time.
Every time I walk into a card shop with my boys,
and it just reminds me of being in the nineteen eighties,
nineteen nineties for many of you sixties seventies, whenever you
were into two thousands baseball cards, football cards, basketball cards.
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And we were going to Target. During the COVID era,
everything you know, buying large shutdown. My kids are really
fired up about cards even more. This is when YouTube
it kind of took off. People card value skyrocket, a
lot of people sitting around watching. And we walked into Target,
and this is before the Target tuck bathing suits went crazy,
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before Target's Pride Month insanity. And we walked in and
my nine year old points to the very first clothing
display in our local Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee. This
is a red county and a red I'm not talking
about walking in on in Times Square or something into
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a Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee, where I live in
Williamson County, just south of Nashville, Tennessee, Red county, red state.
And he just said they would never have anything like
and I'm paraphrasing him, they would never have that for us.
And I didn't really know what he was talking about
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He looked over. He said, they would never and there's
this huge display all of girl power t shirts. Girls rule, girls,
you know, dominate whatever it is, and girl power. He said,
they would never sell boy power shirts.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But but you know, it's really very it. I mean,
I hadn't thought about it because I'm a generation older
than him, and the generation that I grew up in
is boys and girls should be equal. Boys and girls
should all be able to be doctors, or you should
all be able to pursue whatever career you want to.
(09:05):
We should allow, regardless of whether you're a boy or girl,
girls and boys to have equal success. And I went
to law school a Vanderbilt and met his mom there.
There were more girls in my law school class than boys.
And there are way more girls now that graduate from
college than boys who graduate from college, like sixty forty.
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And you can imagine if sixty percent of college degrees
still went to men instead of women, we would hear
about it all the time. It would be one of
the top talking points. Oh, look how sexist, Look how
the patriarchy still dominates. I mean, we're talking about sixty
percent of college degrees go to women and the majority
now of graduate degrees go to women too, and yet
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you walk into a Target store, according to my then
nine year old, and they get the message all the
time Earl's rule, boys basically stink and they would never
have a boy power t shirt. And he was right,
and shortly thereafter they go to public school K to six,
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all my boys have. One of their friends came in
to the house and he was talking about they had
been having a history lesson at school, and the history
lesson that he had taken as a young white kid
was white people, white boys, white men ruin everything. And
he was kind of jokingly sitting around and he was like,
(10:36):
you know, mister Clay, they tell us that we have
all this power, and he's like, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.
And it's funny, but it's also kind of sad because
we've raised this entire generation of boys that has been
told not just white kids, Black kids, Asian kids, Hispanic kids, Hey,
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being a man, being a boy, there's something wrong with it.
Your masculinity is toxic. And what I grapple with in
this book is imagine that we raised an entire generation
of boys and we told them that their identity was toxic,
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and then we shut down their schools, and we shut
down their sports teams, and we told them that COVID
was dangerous and masculinity is toxic, and they didn't get
to go to prom, and they didn't get to finish
their basketball season or their soccer seasons. And young girls
are part of this too, But I think boys in
particular is what I focused on because of the data.
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They're profoundly angry. Young white, Hispanic, Asian and Black men
are profoundly angry. And I really think that Trump, even
though he's their grandfather, channels their anger at the establishment
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that took away part of their youth, that told all
of them at birth, hey, you're toxic because you're masculine.
Is it any wonder that they would be deeply searching
for purpose in life, and then you downgrade religion, You
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tell them that being a provider is somewhat toxic too,
that they should be beta male versions of themselves. They
are fundamentally rejecting what I would call is the girl
power era, and they're saying there's nothing wrong with being
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a boy, there's nothing wrong with growing up to be
a man. And I think that a lot of moms
out there right now are listening because you're raising boys.
And I think think a lot of grandmas are looking
around like when did all the men in the world
turn into pussy willows? And I think that Trump has
channeled that anger. And I also think that the younger
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boys are actually more conservative than the young boys who
broke in huge numbers. And there's a big data analysis
in this book Balls and again, you got to grab
people's attention. There's a big part in the book. Do
you know the two trumpiest voting groups in America in
the twenty twenty four election were men over the age
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of sixty five and young men twenty four and younger.
I bet never in history have young men and older
men been more aligned than they are right now. And
the older men are like, this whole generation is BS.
But you know what, the younger men are saying, You're right, Grandpa,
this whole generation is BS. Now. People like me are
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kind of in the right because I think we grew
up in the era of Hey, women should be able
to be successful. Yeah, good, go be a doctor, go
be a lawyer. That's fine. But I think this younger generation,
it's moved from women should be successful to men are bad.
We have dragged down men to elevate women. And I
think they see it, they feel that they're being taught it.
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And so this book that I wrote is a complete
examination of that era, and I don't think anybody else
has told the story. Again comes through the world of sports, COVID,
all of it rolls together to create what may be
the most conservative generation that any of us have ever
seen in terms of young men. And I see it
as a dad because the younger men are moving even
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more conservative, and the line of demarcation to me is COVID.
COVID was the breaking point, the point in time where
a lot of these young men said, no, we're being
lied to. If you lied to me about COVID, why
should I listen to you gender issues, Why should I
trust you on anything? And I think Trump and his
disruptive bravery, I'll talk about that in a second when
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I come back, connects with them on a visceral level,
White Black, Asian Hispanics, not just white kids. It's young
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reacting to the story that I think is quite clear,
which is young men and why they're breaking for Trump.
The data is clear they're doing it. I think the
book that I'm writing that I've written that's going to
be out in November lays it out. But it's similar
to something you've done. What do you got for us?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
And so I was a high school football coach, middle
school teacher in nineteen ninety eight, and I'm like, what
is going on with these boys? Even if I had
two young boys at that time and a young daughter,
and my wife is like, yeah, what is going on
with these boys? Like, what's going on? So I kind
of did a dive into it from one of my
master's degrees I was doing, and it was called the
Pancification of the American Male, and it was like, what's
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happening to the boys and the things that popped out.
You know, this is a long time ago. The boy
scouts were now being run by moms, girls were in sports,
and a boy was cold like we'll be nice to
that girl. So if the girl stole the ball, the
boy was made fun of was so they heed to
attack the girl, and then he'd be made fun of
for beating up a girl. In advanced classes in my school,
we'd be going through and they're like, well, that boy
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can't be in there because he's just he's too wild.
He'll di rup the classroom. But that girl, who's not
as smart, she really behaves and works out, so we'll
put her in the advanced classes. So it really became
and then political correctness was just starting, the woken wokeness
of it all, and so it really began to tell boys,
if I want to advance, and we had a very high
performing school district, I am fact like the girls. I
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have been more like the girls. Your teachers are seventy
percent white women. They they talk and the like, do
you understand what a boy is like at all?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You boys are all wiggling, Yeah, thank you, thank you
for the call. I think, look, I think that masculinity
is in crisis, and I think it starts with boyhood.
And by the way, men are partly to blame two
because there's a lot of absent fathers and As a result,
you got moms trying to do both jobs, to be
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I'll be out. My kids are out of school and
scheduling things with them has gotten increasingly more difficult because
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somehow they're busier than I am, and I'm pretty busy.
But so anyway, we're going to be out for a
few days. Then we got a big event that we're
doing down in Palm Beach with the show, so I'll
be back for that. But I wanted to play this.
We are in the middle, obviously, of graduation season, and
as a part of graduation season, you get a lot
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of commencement speeches, some better than others. I'm going to
be at a grad graduation tonight and we have got
a ridiculous speech from an elite school. I don't know
what Wake Forest is thinking to bring in Scott Pelley,
a Sixty Minutes correspondent. Is he team do research? Is
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he a graduate of Wake Forest? I don't know. If
I went to Wake Forest and they were like, hey,
you know who you're commencement speaker? This is this year.
They're like, no, the eighth most famous guy on sixty Minutes,
I don't know that I'd be like, yes, score, this
is going to be an unbelievable validation of the four
years that I spent as a demon deacon. We got
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the eighth most important guy on sixty minutes to come
talk to us. Do any of these twenty year olds
watch sixty minutes in the first place, Probably not, unless,
as is the case with me, it happens to come
on right after an NFL game ends, which is what
only reason anybody watches sixty minutes. It has the best
time slot on the planet. So he didn't even go
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to He didn't even go to Wake Forest. So congratulations,
demon Deacons. You could have gotten me for free. At
least I'm one of the two best people on Clay
and Buck as opposed to the eighth best guy who
is on sixty minutes. But Scott Pelley went off. Buck
may weigh in on this tomorrow too, because I saw
him sharing some tweets. They were really good about this.
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But let me play. This is what you happened to see,
And I bet some of you who are listening were
there because we've got a big audience in North Carolina
and Wake As I said, it's fabulous school. Here he
is going off about Trump and the insidious fear that
he has created here's cut eighteen.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
In this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred rule
of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack, universities are under attack.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Freedom of speech is underattack.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
And insidious fear is reaching through our schools, our businesses,
our homes, and into our private thoughts, the fear to
speak in America.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What in the world I sometimes I hear this stuff
and I'm like, what is the world that you live in?
Did Scott Pelly make any of these comments when Joe
Biden was censoring people through his administration on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
When you said things like the COVID shot is worthless,
they would demonetize you, they would ban you. And now
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we know the COVID shots are worthless because the data
reflected it. Where was Scott Pelly during all that? He continued,
by the way, Trump is demonizing diversity, equity and inclusion.
But I mean, this is what you heard if you
were graduating from Wake Forest, Shame on Wake Forest. Honestly,
who in the world. First of all, you picked the loser,
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You picked the eighth most famous guy at sixty minutes,
and then you let him get up there and rip
to shreds. The sitting president of the United States. Now again,
I don't think you should once you decide that somebody
is a commencement speaker, I don't think that you should
censor what they want to say. So I don't blame
Wake Forest for what he said. I blame them for
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being so lame that this was their pick and that
this is what you had to sit through if you
happen to be graduating from Wake Forest in the state
of North Carolina, which Trump won comfortably. I might add
Here's cut nineteen.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
definition of.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
The words we use to describe reality.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Diversity is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Inclusion is a dirty word.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh this guy, I mean, shame on Wake Forest for
picking this Trump deranged lunatic to be your speaker. And
I feel bad for Wake Forest grads who were like,
who's this old guy yelling at us about Trump when
as we just talked about a lot of the young men,
I guarantee you that are sitting out there at that
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graduation voted Trump. And I don't look let me just
tell you this. I don't think you should have any
commencement speaker who's just sharing his political philosophy, And certainly
I don't want to be lectured by sixty Minutes, which
just featured a laudatory story. Some of you remember because
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we talked about it on the program of Germany, where
they followed a German police raid on people who were
posting things on social media that they didn't like. Don't
lecture me about journalism under attack when you just spent
four years telling me that Joe Biden was the best
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Biden he'd ever been, and to my knowledge at sixty Minutes,
you didn't cover Biden's mental and physical decline at all
for four years. And now after four months of Trump,
suddenly you're Scott Pelly and you're terrified of what's coming
in the world. Look, the only reason people watch sixty
Minutes is because it comes on right after NFL games.
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That's it. If they put sixty Minutes on at ten
o'clock at night on CBS, nobody would watch it. They
spend tons of money on it. It's far left wing
propaganda like this lunatic Scott Pelly and Wake Forest. They
probably paid him fifty K to come give this stem winding, absurd,
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indefensibly bad take on the current state of freedom in America.
And I just I wanted to play it for you
because I do think it's deeply emblematic of the broken
brain that many people have in America. And I think
it also ties in with the fact that our taxpayer
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dollars are expected to subsidize a lot of this stuff.
You know, NPR is suing. That story came out today
because the Trump administration has decided that they do not
want for there to be our tax dollars going for
left wing propaganda. And look, I think NPR should have
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the right to exist in the American marketplace of ideas.
They compete with us. We're on five hundred and fifty
some odd stations. I bet several hundred of those stations,
I bet we are directly competing within PR And that's fine.
If you like NPR more than this show, then they
should beat us. They should make more or advertising dollars,
(27:01):
they should be higher rated. By the way, they aren't
and almost all of our competing markets. But if they were,
that's fine. That's how the marketplace goes. NPR tweeted out,
why haven't you seen any stories about the New York
Post Hunter Biden story, because quote, we don't want to
waste our time on stories that are not really stories,
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and we don't want to waste the listeners and readers
time on stories that are just pure distractions. That is
Terrence Samuel's NPR's managing editor for News on the Hunter
Biden story. Well, that's fine, they're wrong, and Hunter Biden
has now pled guilty to crimes that were included on
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that laptop, which fortunately Miranda Divine and the team at
the New York Post wrote about and covered. But what
in the world is defensible in any way on my
tax dollars and your tax dollars going to subsidize this
(28:04):
Clay and Buck doesn't get subsidized by left wing tax dollars.
And I would understand if people were upset. If you're
a hardcore Democrat and you see this show growing, and
you see the influence that we are having, and you
found out that we were getting tens of millions of
dollars in taxpayer funds, some of which would be coming
(28:25):
from the left, I would understand you say, wait a minute,
why can't that show compete in the marketplace without getting
taxpayer funded support. That would be a very fair criticism
that I would say, you know what, you're right, but
why should we be competing with your tax dollars going
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for NPR when we're kicking their ass in ratings all
over the place and we don't get that benefit. And
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Republicans have talked about this forever. Now that we're eliminating
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(29:57):
to them, but not with our federal taxpayer dollar and
support behind it. We'll take some of your calls to
close up shop on the program today. As I mentioned
Buck getting better, he should be back tomorrow. I've got
a graduation to go to. Eighth grade graduation. I don't remember,
by the way, I didn't have an eighth grade graduation.
(30:19):
I didn't have a kindergarten graduation. I didn't have a
fifth grade graduation. We got major graduation inflation going on.
I you know, like, more power to you. You graduate
from high school, that's a big deal. You graduate from college,
that's a big deal. Does anybody fail kindergarten? Is there
a huge roster of kids? You're like, Man, I didn't
know if he was gonna make it or not. That
(30:42):
crossing his knees and sitting on the on the rug,
I was it was touch and go whether he was
going to nail that or not. I didn't know if
he was going to get past r. In the ABC's
he got to s and then he after a little
bit of work got to V and then once we
got to the X Y Z because it rhymed, we
were feeling pretty good, but we didn't know it was
(31:02):
really touch and go. There. You're worried about getting through kindergarten.
The kid's got a lot of issues going forward, all right,
fifth grade. I don't remember a lot of people that
were like, hey, I don't know if he's gonna make
it to sixth grade. We're just what did we really
need these graduations eighth grade when you're already at the
(31:23):
same school like my kids are. Yeah, he's gonna go
from one classroom to the next classroom next year. We're
gonna let you keep paying tuition for him, and we're
not going to stop him in eighth grade. I think
we're overdoing the graduation thing. I don't remember a kindergarten graduation.
I certainly didn't have a fifth grade graduation or an
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eighth grade graduation. Let's okay, high school even high school. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of an accomplishment, not really like
you screwed up if you didn't graduate from high school.
But at least it's thirteen years of schooling that we're celebrating.
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In theory, from kindergarten to twelfth grade. I don't know
what's next. I've been to kindergarten, I've been to fifth grade,
I've been to eighth grade. I haven't even been to
a high school graduation yet. For my kids, I think
we got to dial back all the celebrations. Does that
make me sound like a old grump? Or is almost
everybody else out there kind of quietly nodding along. Maybe
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some of you are pretending that you don't agree because
your significant other maybe widely committed, strongly committed to what
an incredib accomplishment it is. You made it through kindergarten.
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buck Sexton show a lot of you weighing in on
excessive graduations. Most of you agree with me. Doug in
Grand Rapids, Michigan. You gotta take what you got for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey, Clay, I'm with you. One uh. I have a
daughter graduating eighth grade on Monday, and I have always
always joked with my wife that if we ever had
a kid and had to go to the eighth grade
process of graduation, I would either one not go because
it's a farce, or two stand in the back with
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my thumbs down yelling boo the whole time.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
How has that been received by your wife?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
She knows I'm kidding, but she also knows that I,
deep down inside think that a graduation at every level
of school is ridiculous. Thank you free high school, college
and college.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You know, Hey, I'm with you. I don't understand. There
are lots of things that happen, and I'm like, how
do we get here? Kindergarten graduation really really in fifth grade?
Eighth grade? I think it's a part of just an
overpraising of basic, basic, achievement. That's fine. If you're on
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the ropes on kindergarten or fifth grade, maybe the rest
of your life is going to be so tough that
it doesn't even matter. But I just think in general,
let's see, do we still have Do we still have
Tracy in South Carolina? She's still there?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Or no.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Tracy in South Carolina? You want to weigh in?
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Yeah, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I had a
couple of about your book, but going to graduations. My
son graduated UMass Amherst in twenty twenty, and I heard
you talka in earlier with Riley Gaines about the virtual graduation. Yeah,
and if anything good came out of twenty twenty, it
was the virtual graduation for UMSS Ambert. As a parent,
(36:19):
I was so afraid. I think the year before, Elizabeth
Warren was their keynote speaker, and I don't know. I
think I could trade the virtual graduation for that keynote
speaker any day.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But you also wanted to weigh in on boys under Siege.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Thank you so much for
writing your book. I've been dealing with this. My sons
are twenty six and twenty eight. I've been watching that
throughout their whole life. You know, kindergarten being told to
sit down and be quiet all through school, boys aren't
made to do that. And next thing you know, they're
getting diagnosed and you know, PUTT put on ADHD medication
(36:59):
and amen.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I think that we have failed so many of our
young boys. Bucks should be back tomorrow. I'll be at
the amusement park with my kids. I love you, guys,
Hey, Buck, one of my kids called me an ank
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Welcome back in appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the Tuesday edition of
the program. Have all of you had a fabulous Memorial
Day weekend and we are certainly in Romain. As we
said on Friday, thankful for everyone out there who made
the ultimate sacrifice so that all of us could have
the freedoms that are too often we take for granted.
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And I hope you took some time with your family
and friends over the weekend to contemplate that. And if
you are back with us today, we appreciate all of you.
I know a lot of people still out Buck has
got the flu, so he is out today. He says
he will be back tomorrow. I will be out. I'm
going on a family vacation before all the kids' obligations
(01:10):
begin to stack up in earnest, so I will be
on the road with them. I'll be out the rest
of this week and some of next week, and then
I will be back, and then we'll be up in Washington,
d C. For a little while doing the show. Going
to be a lot of fun. There several other stories
that are out there, and I encourage you to go
download the podcast make sure you don't miss a moment.
(01:32):
Great guest hits with Riley Gains and with doctor Marty
McCarey you just heard from in the second hour. It's
just us here in the third hour. And there's several
different things that I want to hit that I think
are particularly important coming out of the weekend. So I'm
going to play several of these things. But I want
(01:53):
to start with Democrats are now. This is from the
New York Times doing a deep dive on what went
wrong in twenty twenty four, and they have decided that
they need to do a better job of pursuing young men.
And this is this in many ways, sounds like what
(02:15):
you would say when you discover a new tribe that
has never had contact with the outside world before. Democrats
just sound completely broken when it comes to understanding how
to have a conversation with normal men out there. And
(02:36):
I saw this story over the weekend in New York Times,
and I just thought to myself, Yes, we should definitely
focus on this. Democrats, you'll nail it. This is from
the New York Times. The perspectus for one new twenty
million dollar effort, obtained by the Times, aims to reverse
the erosion of Democrat support among young men, especially online.
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And again I'm reading from the New Times. It is
code named SAM, short for Speaking with American Men, a
strategic plan and promises investment to quote study the syntax,
language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.
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It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.
I have talked about this quite a lot, and this
is what my new book is about. It's about how
Democrats lost young men. And I want to tell you
a couple of analogies that are in the book. You
can go buy it. Some of you are going to
gasp a bit when you hear what it's called. But
(03:41):
let me first thank President Trump for his endorsement. Some
of you may have seen this over the weekend he
posted this is President Trump. Clay Travis has a great
all caps new book coming out November fourth, twenty twenty five, Balls,
How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America. Clay is
(04:03):
a highly talented commentator who is tough, smart, and gifted
with all caps common sense. He studied our historic movement
from the very beginning, truly gets Maga Maga loves him.
Pre order your copy today with a link. Again. The
book is called It's gonna be out November, but you
can get it for fourteen bucks I think right now
in Amazon Balls How Trump young Men in Sports Saved America.
(04:25):
And the cover of the book has two basketballs on
the cover. And some of you are going to say,
oh my god, like you're so immature, and yes, that
probably is somewhat true, but I also want for people
to be gripped by the argument. And the cover of
a book is not surprisingly an opportunity to grab people
(04:48):
and make them think about something or see something that
they may not have seen before. And so I've spent
a great deal of time in the last several months
diving into the data analyzing what exactly is going on
with young men. And I want to hit you with
a couple of stories that really are in the book.
And again, the book's going to be out in November.
(05:08):
I think you guys are really going to like it.
If you're audiobook people, I'll be reading it. Buck has
got a great new book that's going to be out
in January two, so we'll have a couple of good books.
And I imagine that he's going to be reading his
book too. So for those of you that are going
to be on the road and don't necessarily want to
read the book itself, you can get the audio version.
But it's up on Amazon. It's only fourteen bucks and
(05:31):
it'll be right there. And I appreciate President Trump for
endorsing the book. They said, hey, how do you want
to announce the book? And I said, well, I'd like
for President Trump to announce it. I didn't know if
he would, But on Sunday night they popped me and said, hey,
President just he's going to be endorsing your book. He
loves it. He's excited about the concept. And Trump gets
it right Trump gets young men. But I want to
(05:53):
talk to you. If you've got kids or grandkids, I
want to hit you with a couple of stories. Sometimes
we don't see the world through the eyes of people
who are of different ages than us, even though we
might see many of the same things that they do.
And I've got two stories that are examples and anecdotes
(06:13):
that are in the book that really kind of crystallize
the world for me. You guys know, I have three boys,
so I think about this quite a lot right now.
They are seventeen, fourteen, and ten, one who's going to
be a rising sceenior, rising ninth grader, rising fifth grader,
so fairly different ages. But in the COVID era in
twenty twenty, my then nine year old, my middle son,
(06:37):
like a lot of your kids are grandkids, was obsessed
with football cards, basketball cards, baseball cards. I love them
when I was a kid. My boys got really into
them as well. YouTube has really I think fueled this
because you unpack, you open these, you break as they
call it, these cards, and you go through and you
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look at them and they have all sorts of special cards.
Really very cool. I mean, it takes me back in time.
Every time I walk into a card shop with my boys,
and it just reminds me of being in the nineteen eighties,
nineteen nineties for many of you sixties seventies, whenever you
were into two thousands baseball cards, football cards, basketball cards.
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And we were going to Target. During the COVID era,
everything you know, buying large shutdown. My kids are really
fired up about cards even more. This is when YouTube
it kind of took off. People card value skyrocket, a
lot of people sitting around watching. And we walked into Target,
and this is before the Target tuck bathing suits went crazy,
(07:43):
before Target's Pride Month insanity. And we walked in and
my nine year old points to the very first clothing
display in our local Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee. This
is a red county and a red I'm not talking
about walking in on in Times Square or something into
(08:04):
a Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee, where I live in
Williamson County, just south of Nashville, Tennessee, Red county, red state.
And he just said they would never have anything like
and I'm paraphrasing him, they would never have that for us.
And I didn't really know what he was talking about
(08:26):
He looked over. He said, they would never and there's
this huge display all of girl power t shirts. Girls rule, girls,
you know, dominate whatever it is, and girl power. He said,
they would never sell boy power shirts.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Dad.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
But but you know, it's really very it. I mean,
I hadn't thought about it because I'm a generation older
than him, and the generation that I grew up in
is boys and girls should be equal. Boys and girls
should all be able to be doctors, or you should
all be able to pursue whatever career you want to.
(09:05):
We should allow, regardless of whether you're a boy or girl,
girls and boys to have equal success. And I went
to law school a Vanderbilt and met his mom there.
There were more girls in my law school class than boys.
And there are way more girls now that graduate from
college than boys who graduate from college, like sixty forty.
(09:29):
And you can imagine if sixty percent of college degrees
still went to men instead of women, we would hear
about it all the time. It would be one of
the top talking points. Oh, look how sexist, Look how
the patriarchy still dominates. I mean, we're talking about sixty
percent of college degrees go to women and the majority
now of graduate degrees go to women too, and yet
(09:53):
you walk into a Target store, according to my then
nine year old, and they get the message all the
time Earl's rule, boys basically stink and they would never
have a boy power t shirt. And he was right,
and shortly thereafter they go to public school K to six,
(10:13):
all my boys have. One of their friends came in
to the house and he was talking about they had
been having a history lesson at school, and the history
lesson that he had taken as a young white kid
was white people, white boys, white men ruin everything. And
he was kind of jokingly sitting around and he was like,
(10:36):
you know, mister Clay, they tell us that we have
all this power, and he's like, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.
And it's funny, but it's also kind of sad because
we've raised this entire generation of boys that has been
told not just white kids, Black kids, Asian kids, Hispanic kids, Hey,
(11:00):
being a man, being a boy, there's something wrong with it.
Your masculinity is toxic. And what I grapple with in
this book is imagine that we raised an entire generation
of boys and we told them that their identity was toxic,
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and then we shut down their schools, and we shut
down their sports teams, and we told them that COVID
was dangerous and masculinity is toxic, and they didn't get
to go to prom, and they didn't get to finish
their basketball season or their soccer seasons. And young girls
are part of this too, But I think boys in
particular is what I focused on because of the data.
(11:45):
They're profoundly angry. Young white, Hispanic, Asian and Black men
are profoundly angry. And I really think that Trump, even
though he's their grandfather, channels their anger at the establishment
(12:07):
that took away part of their youth, that told all
of them at birth, hey, you're toxic because you're masculine.
Is it any wonder that they would be deeply searching
for purpose in life, and then you downgrade religion, You
(12:29):
tell them that being a provider is somewhat toxic too,
that they should be beta male versions of themselves. They
are fundamentally rejecting what I would call is the girl
power era, and they're saying there's nothing wrong with being
(12:50):
a boy, there's nothing wrong with growing up to be
a man. And I think that a lot of moms
out there right now are listening because you're raising boys.
And I think think a lot of grandmas are looking
around like when did all the men in the world
turn into pussy willows? And I think that Trump has
channeled that anger. And I also think that the younger
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boys are actually more conservative than the young boys who
broke in huge numbers. And there's a big data analysis
in this book Balls and again, you got to grab
people's attention. There's a big part in the book. Do
you know the two trumpiest voting groups in America in
the twenty twenty four election were men over the age
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of sixty five and young men twenty four and younger.
I bet never in history have young men and older
men been more aligned than they are right now. And
the older men are like, this whole generation is BS.
But you know what, the younger men are saying, You're right, Grandpa,
this whole generation is BS. Now. People like me are
(13:59):
kind of in the right because I think we grew
up in the era of Hey, women should be able
to be successful. Yeah, good, go be a doctor, go
be a lawyer. That's fine. But I think this younger generation,
it's moved from women should be successful to men are bad.
We have dragged down men to elevate women. And I
think they see it, they feel that they're being taught it.
(14:22):
And so this book that I wrote is a complete
examination of that era, and I don't think anybody else
has told the story. Again comes through the world of sports, COVID,
all of it rolls together to create what may be
the most conservative generation that any of us have ever
seen in terms of young men. And I see it
as a dad because the younger men are moving even
(14:45):
more conservative, and the line of demarcation to me is COVID.
COVID was the breaking point, the point in time where
a lot of these young men said, no, we're being
lied to. If you lied to me about COVID, why
should I listen to you gender issues, Why should I
trust you on anything? And I think Trump and his
disruptive bravery, I'll talk about that in a second when
(15:08):
I come back, connects with them on a visceral level,
White Black, Asian Hispanics, not just white kids. It's young
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reacting to the story that I think is quite clear,
which is young men and why they're breaking for Trump.
The data is clear they're doing it. I think the
book that I'm writing that I've written that's going to
be out in November lays it out. But it's similar
to something you've done. What do you got for us?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:00):
And so I was a high school football coach, middle
school teacher in nineteen ninety eight, and I'm like, what
is going on with these boys? Even if I had
two young boys at that time and a young daughter,
and my wife is like, yeah, what is going on
with these boys? Like, what's going on? So I kind
of did a dive into it from one of my
master's degrees I was doing, and it was called the
Pancification of the American Male, and it was like, what's
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happening to the boys and the things that popped out.
You know, this is a long time ago. The boy
scouts were now being run by moms, girls were in sports,
and a boy was cold like we'll be nice to
that girl. So if the girl stole the ball, the
boy was made fun of was so they heed to
attack the girl, and then he'd be made fun of
for beating up a girl. In advanced classes in my school,
we'd be going through and they're like, well, that boy
(17:43):
can't be in there because he's just he's too wild.
He'll di rup the classroom. But that girl, who's not
as smart, she really behaves and works out, so we'll
put her in the advanced classes. So it really became
and then political correctness was just starting, the woken wokeness
of it all, and so it really began to tell boys,
if I want to advance, and we had a very high
performing school district, I am fact like the girls. I
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have been more like the girls. Your teachers are seventy
percent white women. They they talk and the like, do
you understand what a boy is like at all?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You boys are all wiggling, Yeah, thank you, thank you
for the call. I think, look, I think that masculinity
is in crisis, and I think it starts with boyhood.
And by the way, men are partly to blame two
because there's a lot of absent fathers and As a result,
you got moms trying to do both jobs, to be
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I'll be out. My kids are out of school and
scheduling things with them has gotten increasingly more difficult because
(19:36):
somehow they're busier than I am, and I'm pretty busy.
But so anyway, we're going to be out for a
few days. Then we got a big event that we're
doing down in Palm Beach with the show, so I'll
be back for that. But I wanted to play this.
We are in the middle, obviously, of graduation season, and
as a part of graduation season, you get a lot
(19:56):
of commencement speeches, some better than others. I'm going to
be at a grad graduation tonight and we have got
a ridiculous speech from an elite school. I don't know
what Wake Forest is thinking to bring in Scott Pelley,
a Sixty Minutes correspondent. Is he team do research? Is
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he a graduate of Wake Forest? I don't know. If
I went to Wake Forest and they were like, hey,
you know who you're commencement speaker? This is this year.
They're like, no, the eighth most famous guy on sixty Minutes,
I don't know that I'd be like, yes, score, this
is going to be an unbelievable validation of the four
years that I spent as a demon deacon. We got
(20:37):
the eighth most important guy on sixty minutes to come
talk to us. Do any of these twenty year olds
watch sixty minutes in the first place, Probably not, unless,
as is the case with me, it happens to come
on right after an NFL game ends, which is what
only reason anybody watches sixty minutes. It has the best
time slot on the planet. So he didn't even go
(21:01):
to He didn't even go to Wake Forest. So congratulations,
demon Deacons. You could have gotten me for free. At
least I'm one of the two best people on Clay
and Buck as opposed to the eighth best guy who
is on sixty minutes. But Scott Pelley went off. Buck
may weigh in on this tomorrow too, because I saw
him sharing some tweets. They were really good about this.
(21:22):
But let me play. This is what you happened to see,
And I bet some of you who are listening were
there because we've got a big audience in North Carolina
and Wake As I said, it's fabulous school. Here he
is going off about Trump and the insidious fear that
he has created here's cut eighteen.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
In this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred rule
of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack, universities are under attack.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Freedom of speech is underattack.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
And insidious fear is reaching through our schools, our businesses,
our homes, and into our private thoughts, the fear to
speak in America.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What in the world I sometimes I hear this stuff
and I'm like, what is the world that you live in?
Did Scott Pelly make any of these comments when Joe
Biden was censoring people through his administration on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
When you said things like the COVID shot is worthless,
they would demonetize you, they would ban you. And now
(22:35):
we know the COVID shots are worthless because the data
reflected it. Where was Scott Pelly during all that? He continued,
by the way, Trump is demonizing diversity, equity and inclusion.
But I mean, this is what you heard if you
were graduating from Wake Forest, Shame on Wake Forest. Honestly,
who in the world. First of all, you picked the loser,
(22:56):
You picked the eighth most famous guy at sixty minutes,
and then you let him get up there and rip
to shreds. The sitting president of the United States. Now again,
I don't think you should once you decide that somebody
is a commencement speaker, I don't think that you should
censor what they want to say. So I don't blame
Wake Forest for what he said. I blame them for
(23:19):
being so lame that this was their pick and that
this is what you had to sit through if you
happen to be graduating from Wake Forest in the state
of North Carolina, which Trump won comfortably. I might add
Here's cut nineteen.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
definition of.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
The words we use to describe reality.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Diversity is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Inclusion is a dirty word.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Oh this guy, I mean, shame on Wake Forest for
picking this Trump deranged lunatic to be your speaker. And
I feel bad for Wake Forest grads who were like,
who's this old guy yelling at us about Trump when
as we just talked about a lot of the young men,
I guarantee you that are sitting out there at that
(24:28):
graduation voted Trump. And I don't look let me just
tell you this. I don't think you should have any
commencement speaker who's just sharing his political philosophy, And certainly
I don't want to be lectured by sixty Minutes, which
just featured a laudatory story. Some of you remember because
(24:49):
we talked about it on the program of Germany, where
they followed a German police raid on people who were
posting things on social media that they didn't like. Don't
lecture me about journalism under attack when you just spent
four years telling me that Joe Biden was the best
(25:12):
Biden he'd ever been, and to my knowledge at sixty Minutes,
you didn't cover Biden's mental and physical decline at all
for four years. And now after four months of Trump,
suddenly you're Scott Pelly and you're terrified of what's coming
in the world. Look, the only reason people watch sixty
Minutes is because it comes on right after NFL games.
(25:34):
That's it. If they put sixty Minutes on at ten
o'clock at night on CBS, nobody would watch it. They
spend tons of money on it. It's far left wing
propaganda like this lunatic Scott Pelly and Wake Forest. They
probably paid him fifty K to come give this stem winding, absurd,
(25:55):
indefensibly bad take on the current state of freedom in America.
And I just I wanted to play it for you
because I do think it's deeply emblematic of the broken
brain that many people have in America. And I think
it also ties in with the fact that our taxpayer
(26:17):
dollars are expected to subsidize a lot of this stuff.
You know, NPR is suing. That story came out today
because the Trump administration has decided that they do not
want for there to be our tax dollars going for
left wing propaganda. And look, I think NPR should have
(26:39):
the right to exist in the American marketplace of ideas.
They compete with us. We're on five hundred and fifty
some odd stations. I bet several hundred of those stations,
I bet we are directly competing within PR And that's fine.
If you like NPR more than this show, then they
should beat us. They should make more or advertising dollars,
(27:01):
they should be higher rated. By the way, they aren't
and almost all of our competing markets. But if they were,
that's fine. That's how the marketplace goes. NPR tweeted out,
why haven't you seen any stories about the New York
Post Hunter Biden story, because quote, we don't want to
waste our time on stories that are not really stories,
(27:23):
and we don't want to waste the listeners and readers
time on stories that are just pure distractions. That is
Terrence Samuel's NPR's managing editor for News on the Hunter
Biden story. Well, that's fine, they're wrong, and Hunter Biden
has now pled guilty to crimes that were included on
(27:43):
that laptop, which fortunately Miranda Divine and the team at
the New York Post wrote about and covered. But what
in the world is defensible in any way on my
tax dollars and your tax dollars going to subsidize this
(28:04):
Clay and Buck doesn't get subsidized by left wing tax dollars.
And I would understand if people were upset. If you're
a hardcore Democrat and you see this show growing, and
you see the influence that we are having, and you
found out that we were getting tens of millions of
dollars in taxpayer funds, some of which would be coming
(28:25):
from the left, I would understand you say, wait a minute,
why can't that show compete in the marketplace without getting
taxpayer funded support. That would be a very fair criticism
that I would say, you know what, you're right, but
why should we be competing with your tax dollars going
(28:45):
for NPR when we're kicking their ass in ratings all
over the place and we don't get that benefit. And
for people out there always say you know what, they say, well,
it's not that much money, Okay, then why are you
suing over it? If we lost an advertiser and it
was a relatively true small part of the overall revenue here,
(29:10):
we're not gonna be filing lawsuits over it. We'll just
find a new advertiser. Don't listen to what they say. Look,
get what they do. This is a huge part of
their funding, or else they wouldn't be filing lawsuits over it.
Now they argue about how's the money coming in, but
it goes to support a lot of the propaganda that
they put out. It shouldn't be existing, not with taxpayer support.
(29:35):
Republicans have talked about this forever. Now that we're eliminating
the penny, they should not get one red cent. They
should also not get one dollar. They should not get
one dollar of American taxpayer support. If they want to
compete in the marketplace of ideas in the media universe
with this show and other shows, they should more power
(29:57):
to them, but not with our federal taxpayer dollar and
support behind it. We'll take some of your calls to
close up shop on the program today. As I mentioned
Buck getting better, he should be back tomorrow. I've got
a graduation to go to. Eighth grade graduation. I don't remember,
by the way, I didn't have an eighth grade graduation.
(30:19):
I didn't have a kindergarten graduation. I didn't have a
fifth grade graduation. We got major graduation inflation going on.
I you know, like, more power to you. You graduate
from high school, that's a big deal. You graduate from college,
that's a big deal. Does anybody fail kindergarten? Is there
a huge roster of kids? You're like, Man, I didn't
know if he was gonna make it or not. That
(30:42):
crossing his knees and sitting on the on the rug,
I was it was touch and go whether he was
going to nail that or not. I didn't know if
he was going to get past r. In the ABC's
he got to s and then he after a little
bit of work got to V and then once we
got to the X Y Z because it rhymed, we
were feeling pretty good, but we didn't know it was
(31:02):
really touch and go. There. You're worried about getting through kindergarten.
The kid's got a lot of issues going forward, all right,
fifth grade. I don't remember a lot of people that
were like, hey, I don't know if he's gonna make
it to sixth grade. We're just what did we really
need these graduations eighth grade when you're already at the
(31:23):
same school like my kids are. Yeah, he's gonna go
from one classroom to the next classroom next year. We're
gonna let you keep paying tuition for him, and we're
not going to stop him in eighth grade. I think
we're overdoing the graduation thing. I don't remember a kindergarten graduation.
I certainly didn't have a fifth grade graduation or an
(31:45):
eighth grade graduation. Let's okay, high school even high school. Yeah,
I mean it's kind of an accomplishment, not really like
you screwed up if you didn't graduate from high school.
But at least it's thirteen years of schooling that we're celebrating.
(32:06):
In theory, from kindergarten to twelfth grade. I don't know
what's next. I've been to kindergarten, I've been to fifth grade,
I've been to eighth grade. I haven't even been to
a high school graduation yet. For my kids, I think
we got to dial back all the celebrations. Does that
make me sound like a old grump? Or is almost
everybody else out there kind of quietly nodding along. Maybe
(32:30):
some of you are pretending that you don't agree because
your significant other maybe widely committed, strongly committed to what
an incredib accomplishment it is. You made it through kindergarten.
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buck Sexton show a lot of you weighing in on
excessive graduations. Most of you agree with me. Doug in
Grand Rapids, Michigan. You gotta take what you got for me.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Hey, Clay, I'm with you. One uh. I have a
daughter graduating eighth grade on Monday, and I have always
always joked with my wife that if we ever had
a kid and had to go to the eighth grade
process of graduation, I would either one not go because
it's a farce, or two stand in the back with
(34:53):
my thumbs down yelling boo the whole time.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
How has that been received by your wife?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
She knows I'm kidding, but she also knows that I,
deep down inside think that a graduation at every level
of school is ridiculous. Thank you free high school, college
and college.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
You know, Hey, I'm with you. I don't understand. There
are lots of things that happen, and I'm like, how
do we get here? Kindergarten graduation really really in fifth grade?
Eighth grade? I think it's a part of just an
overpraising of basic, basic, achievement. That's fine. If you're on
(35:38):
the ropes on kindergarten or fifth grade, maybe the rest
of your life is going to be so tough that
it doesn't even matter. But I just think in general,
let's see, do we still have Do we still have
Tracy in South Carolina? She's still there?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Or no.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Tracy in South Carolina? You want to weigh in?
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Yeah, Hey, thanks for taking my call. I had a
couple of about your book, but going to graduations. My
son graduated UMass Amherst in twenty twenty, and I heard
you talka in earlier with Riley Gaines about the virtual graduation. Yeah,
and if anything good came out of twenty twenty, it
was the virtual graduation for UMSS Ambert. As a parent,
(36:19):
I was so afraid. I think the year before, Elizabeth
Warren was their keynote speaker, and I don't know. I
think I could trade the virtual graduation for that keynote
speaker any day.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But you also wanted to weigh in on boys under Siege.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Thank you so much for
writing your book. I've been dealing with this. My sons
are twenty six and twenty eight. I've been watching that
throughout their whole life. You know, kindergarten being told to
sit down and be quiet all through school, boys aren't
made to do that. And next thing you know, they're
getting diagnosed and you know, PUTT put on ADHD medication
(36:59):
and amen.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I think that we have failed so many of our
young boys. Bucks should be back tomorrow. I'll be at
the amusement park with my kids. I love you, guys,
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