March 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan on spending bill, reconciliation package, DOGE, FBI Director Kash Patel on swatting, Sanctuary cities, ICE, immigration and deportations, and March Madness brackets. WH Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt's fantastic answer on the Statue of Liberty. Connor McGregor at the White House on illegal immigration in Ireland. Western Civilization. Clay experiences the future with Waymo and gets called an “Unc.”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, rolling through the third
hour of the program, and we are joined now by
We want to say thanks, by the way to all
of you out there listening on the dozens and dozens
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today and in the weeks ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We've gone over five hundred a in affiliates, massive number,
all fifty states. And a guy who occasionally likes to
check in on us when he's running around his district
and running around the nation, trying to make sure that
we are on the right track. Our friend, Congressman Jim Jordan,
Great State of Ohio, Congressman Howard.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Things going. We appreciate you swinging by e.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You've good to be good to be with you guys,
and congratulations on just an ever growing audience out there,
a more stations that it just says, what a good
job you'all doing, so.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Far, so good. Four years in.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let's dive into what you're focused on right now, which
is the federal district court judges have emerged as the
primary resistance to Trump's authority in the United States. The
Democrat Party has collapsed. We were talking about the overall
approval ratings hitting all time lows at NBC and CNN.
(01:16):
What do you think about these federal district court judges
and what do you think should be done to stop
one judge who is oftentimes an Obama appointee, from trying
to keep President Trump from being able to enact the
executive actions that the American people put him in office
to do.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I think several things. You know what, we have
oversight of Article three courts, so we're we're looking at
all this. So there's sort of this the general oversight function,
and then there's legislation that we can do. And I'm
telling Buck, I listened. We were driving this morning and
I heard I heard your show from Friday. We were
playing as we're heading off to the meeting, and you
(01:58):
were talking about this issue. And we passed this bill
to I think two or three weeks ago out of committee.
We're going to try to get it through the through
the House. But the bill says, look, you if you
have some judge in Tim Buck to California who issues
are ruling, it doesn't apply nation. Why it applies to
the parties of the case, the parties in the case
(02:18):
in that respective jurisdiction, and so you limit the ability.
What has it been I think fifteen times in eight weeks.
Actually it'd be a shorter period of time than that.
Even six seven weeks were fifteen different occasions where some
some federal judge has had a nationwide injunction against some
actions taken by President Trump, either executive order or some
of the dose things that have that have taken place.
(02:40):
And so and I think of the whole four years
of Joe Biden, it was like thirteen or fourteen. So
we think this makes sense. And then we're also just
looking at our general oversight of this, this whole thing.
And of course, the biggest example, while it was not
a nationwide injunction, but the example that tront and center
on everyone's mind is this judge, Judge Bosberg, who said, no, no, no,
it's better to bring hardened criminals back to the country,
(03:02):
gang members back to the country than to send them away,
which I think just underscores how ridiculous some of this
stuff is that we're seeing from these judges.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us so clearly
we agree that reigning in the hashtag resistance universal injunction
happy judiciary is constitutionally necessary. I have a feeling the
Democrats in the Senate, however, will be unwilling to go
along with this. So is this mostly just a function
(03:32):
of making the argument in front of the American people
that this should be done. So at least when Democrats
are claiming that this is the way it has to be,
the Trump administration can turn around and say, one, we disagree,
and two it's Democrats who are refusing to clarify this.
So of course it's going to have to make its
way up to the Supreme Court because we know they'll
(03:53):
complain about that too.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean, we could have taken a course. There's
other legislation that we're looking at where you would do
something expedited review. So if it stays the same, so
some some judge, some district federal district judge can can
issue a ruling has nationwide implications, then you get some
expedited review, some three judge panel then on the so
you could do it, you can do that route as well.
We'll look at that legislative if that makes sense. But
(04:16):
the idea is to get an answer quickly and not
have these judges and the Democrats forum shopping. But I
would back up a second. I think, really what this
is about is the left doesn't want to trust the
individual who was elected to make decisions. The left says, no, no, no,
we got to go to the judges. We got to
go to the experts in the government of bureaucrats who
(04:38):
were so much smarter than we the peoples. The whole
reason they thought doctor Fauci should run the world a
few years ago. It's not trusting in the guy who
put their name on the ballot, was elected and his
Article two, section one. I always point to this. The
very first sentence in Article two of our constitutions says
executive power shall be vested in a president of the
United States. The Democrats don't like that. They want the
(05:00):
experts to run things, and then they want to go
to the courts to run things. They don't like the
guy that the people put in power. So ultimately that's
where it's about. And then we're trying to figure out
a way to make sure that the people get their
wishes done, as it was reflected in the election on
November fifth, We're.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What is the latest that you can tell us about
the big beautiful bill that I know is working its
way through, the reconciliation bill that would deal with taxes,
that would deal with the border. I believe everything else.
What's the absolute latest there? People should know? What's the
timeframe look like? How do you see it going?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well? I think good, especially now that we've got the
cr done. You know, no one thought we could really
get that done, and everyone you thought there were going
to be some kind of fight on But when we
framed it up with this just flat funding, maybe saving
a few dollars like we did. Now that that's off
the table, I think we can turn to implementing the
dose cuts, doing the reconciliation that the American people elected
(05:58):
us to do. The speakers indicate that he wants a
May timeframe on this, to try to get this all done.
I think that'd be great if we can make it
happen that quickly. Getting some certainty on the tax code,
getting some certainty on energy policy, getting the revenue and
resources to Tom Homan and President Trump's team to make
sure they can continue to secure our border. I think
that makes this all the sense in the world, But
(06:19):
that victory last week was good. I saw Senator Murphy
Democrat Center from Connecticut on TV yesterday and he said,
this was the first time that the government spending bill
wasn't negotiated in a bipartisan fashion, didn't have bipartisan buy it.
You know what else it was. It was the first
time we passed the spending bill where we didn't spend
more money. Maybe there's a correlation there, maybe there's some
(06:41):
truth to us do it this way, so they were
not spending more money. So I thought that was a
big win for us. And now we're set to implement
the dose cuts that the Trump administration and Elon and
his team have put together along with this reconciliation package,
and let's hope we can get it done by the
spring here by May, and then get on with the
(07:02):
economy growing like we wanted to grow.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Congress and Jordan, you may have seen this a couple
of days ago. FBI Director Cash Patel, I'll share this quote.
I want to address the alarming rise in swatting incidents
targeting media figures. The FBI is aware of this dangerous trend,
and my team and I are taking action to investigate
and hold those responsible accountable. There have been a number
of people, this is the reports are out there who
(07:25):
have had this swat incident. A swatting incident's happen, and
for anyone listening, it's where someone calls in a hoax,
high threat situation to law enforcement says, oh, here's the address.
There's somebody barricaded with a gun holding a hostage, and
sometimes swat shows up and goes in heavy through the door,
(07:45):
and it's very dangerous. My understanding is that, yes, of
course this is against the law, but there's no specific
law that's brought to BAAR federal law targeting. I'm usually
not in favor of more laws, but is anyone in
the Congress can entering an anti swatting laws specifically to
address this, so that that's very clear. Hey, if you try,
(08:06):
because someone could get killed. This has there have been
lethal incidents in the past with this.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, no kid, and uh, if legislation is needed to
clarify that, we're certainly open to doing that. That that
makes sense to me. You know, this is this is
dangerous stuff, and you start messing around with this kind
of stuff for political reasons because you want to go
get you know, the someone on the other party or
whatever I know are our colleague. I think Marjorie Taylor
Green has been squatted several times. So if you're doing
(08:33):
this for political stuff, this is there should be prosecution,
just like if your Attorney General Bondi has talked about this.
If you're if you're these folks in these cities, these
sanctuary cities, and you're tipping off the bad guys when
ICE is coming to try to do their job and
you're making it difficult for ICE agents to implement and
and and force federal law.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And dangerous for them because some of these bad guys
can set up ambush.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, well we the sault. This happened in Detroit, or
excuse me, in Denver. The sanctuary city policies out there
were they let this guy go, this Abraham Gonzalez. They
let him go even though I sid said, hey, if
you're going to release this guy, we know you got him.
He's in for aggravated assault, he stole a car. If
you're going to release him, give us forty eight hours
notice so we can come to the jail and pick
(09:20):
him up in your county jail in your city. Jail,
and they said no, they released him to the street,
and then they got to go arrest him on the
streets and as a result, on ice agent got assaulted.
It's like, that's what happens when you have this crazy
left wing sanctuary city policy. So if it's that or
sweating or whatever, let's make sure that we protect the
safety and allow and if you're engaged in that kind
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of stuff, you should be prosecuted for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Jim at New York Times this morning said, right now,
we're on pace for the lowest amount of border crossings
since nineteen sixty seven. I knew you had faith that
Trump and Tom Holman and Christine Home and everybody else
out there could get this thing solved.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Did even you?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Are you even astounded by how quickly he has managed
to turn the southern border into a secure zone.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, I am. And it's it's it's truly a reflection
of leaders And we all know leadership makes a difference.
And when you come in and say you you reverse
exactly what Biden said, No more, no more building the wall,
no more remain in Mexico. And when you get here,
you will not be detained. You will be released, and
President Trump came in and said, we're going to flip
those exactly one hundred eight degrees. We're going to continue
(10:31):
building the wall. We're going to make you wait in
Mexico while we evaluate your claim, and when you get here,
there is no way you will be released. You will
be you will be detained and sent back. And anyone
else who came here, we're going to find you and
send you back if you're not if you're not supposed
to be here. When you come in with that kind
of attitude, and Tom Holman is certainly reflective of that attitude,
and you do those things, it's amazing what happens. Lowis
(10:52):
encounters I think ever as you pointed out, play, but
I got admit it's the It's even faster and better
than I thought they could do it, which is again
a testament to the leadership of President Trump and his team.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Congress and Jim Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I appreciate you making the time for sirr No.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I was just gonna give you a chance because it's
in double I know what we're going to now.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yes, we're saving the republic slash let's talk sports, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Uh Buck is going to fill out a bracket, which
he's rarely done before. But I also know the wrestling
in C Double A tournament is underway, I believe, and
you are a former Uh yeah, you are a die
hard on that front. What should people know about the
n C double A tournament for the men out there
that everybody's gonna be watching this weekend and also wrestling,
I'll give you an opportunity to flex your muscles.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, and wrestling. Penn State is gonna win again, unfortunately,
but there'll be lots of there'll be there'll be a
strong competition for runner up. You know, the buck guys
will be good, Hawkeyes are good. There's either a lot,
I mean, it's all Big Ten. Then there's a few
teams from the from the twelve o'coma State will be solid.
So we'll see how that goes. We're gonna go for
the finals. I think in Philadelphia will be there for
(12:01):
the final night basketball. I'm always cheering for the Badgers,
you know, even though they got beat yesterday in that
Big Ten final. Cheering for the Badgers, which is where
I went to school. So we'll see. I don't even
know what. I haven't looked at the brackets yet. Though today,
I assume the Badger's got a pretty high seed.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Three.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're a three seed, so you're in pretty good set
up to play Alabama in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
If you make it there, there we.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Go, there we go. Well. So I'll probably in my
bracket I usually have. If Wisconsin in the tournament, I
usually have them gone to the final four at some point,
so I'm sure I'll have that my bracket this time too.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Outstanding Stuck, you have a good work, Congressman, and we
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You bet take care.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, he's fabulous in many respects, but I do
love that when he's out on the road, Like you said, Buck,
he was listening to you on Friday, He's like, hey,
let me go ahead and hop on and talk about
everything going on out there in the world. On the
serious note, do you agree with me there should be
a you know you're a lawyer, there should be an
anti swatting law because I know that there are there
are violations of law in swatting, but it makes it
(13:03):
easier for prosecutors. If it's you did the following things,
you are covered under this specific statute, which is trying
to prevent because right now it's you know, interstate threats,
it's false report, it's a bunch of different things. But
you know, I know there's from terrorism prosecutions, like when
there's one thing you can hit people with, like when
it's material support to terrorist group tenures in federal prison.
(13:26):
It's a lot easier than trying to cobble together a
multi statute prosecution. It also simplifies and makes people aware
of what danger thinks.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
There's a political component to it or an awareness component as well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and you just shouldn't do this. I mean, it's
it's dangerous and uh, it's just awful. I mean, there
are a lot of things out there where you can say,
we talked about this with death threats. Unfortunately, we got
some at the house during the election season. Like I
think you should. There are several things that are sort
of new because people haven't had access to direct messages
(14:02):
and social media and cell phones everything else that are
new crimes that we need to prosecute to the fullest
extent of the law to just make it clear, this
is not a prank. This is not something you can
play around with. And I agree with you. I think
that could make a lot of sense. Look, think back
to your days in school, whenever those might have been recent,
long time ago. Maybe it missed some of the courses
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All right, Caroline Levit just had a press conference, and
I think this is going to go down as it's
really the highlight of this one. The French apparently want
the Statue of Liberalty back. They are valley upset with us,
and they asked Caroline Levitt about this, and this is
how she responded.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Play it. There is now a member of the European
Parliament from France. What does not think the US represents
the values of the Statue of Liberty anymore? They want
the Statue of Liberty back. So is President Trump going
to send the Statue of Liberty back.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It's to France, absolutely not. And my advice to that
unnamed low level French politician would be to remind them
that it's only because of the United States of America
that the French are not speaking German right now, so
they should be very grateful to our grade country.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Wow. Burn, that one is going to sting a little bit.
And I don't even know how the Statue of Liberty
would be returned, for those of you who are not
students of history, the French which gave it the Statue
of Liberty as a gift, and they have some random
French politician Peter Doucy served up the meatball hanging over
(17:08):
the plate there for Caroline Levitt and she put it
in the upper deck as one would anticipate that she might.
And Yeah, that one's gonna smart a little bit, So
we will see how exactly that ends up playing out.
But feel pretty good about Statue of Liberty staying here. Buck, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It would be tough to move just for the serious
Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Unless we get a Ghostbusters two opportunity. Uh, they got
Statue of Liberty to move, but other than that, I
haven't seen anybody really move it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I would have to agree with that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
We'll come back here in just a second with more
from the press conference, uh and the highlights of it.
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Today Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. It
is Saint Patrick's So happy Saint Patrick's Day to everyone celebrating,
including Connor McGregor, Irish MMA Fighter champion, who was at
the White House today Cut twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Connor McGregor, listen.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Our government has long since abandoned the voices of the
people of Ireland and it's high time that America is
made aware of what is going to lon in Ireland.
What is going to lon in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Is a travesty.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Our government is the government of zero action with zero accountability.
You know, our money is being spent on overseas issues
that has nothing to do with the Irish people. The
illegal immigration recket is running ravage on the country. There
are rural towns in Ireland that has been overrunning wom's
sloop that have become a minority in wom's sloop. So
issues native addressed and the forty million Irish Americans, as
(19:47):
I said, need to hear this because if not, there
will be no place to come home and visit.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I didn't expect for Connomer. There's been talk buck that
he may run for the I guess the presidency of Iron,
and that's been kicked around at different times. But he
has become very politically outspoken. He's aligned himself with Trump,
and I didn't know that he was going to take
the White House rostrum there and preach.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
As he did.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But I do think this goes to a larger Western
civilization issue, which is many European countries are being overrun
with people who are from countries that do not embrace
democrat Western civilization and values, and that is a profound
culture shock too many of these countries, whether it's Italy,
whether it's Ireland, whether it's Great Britain, whether it is France,
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and that impact has profoundly had a I would say,
disquieting effect on many people who live in those countries
and believe that their individual cultures matter and shouldn't be
usurped by other cultures.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, this is also a reminder that the magnificent force
of trump Ism in this country which seeks to create
accountability in vast bureaucracies, which seeks to restore common sense,
which believes that a true Western civilization worthy of the
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name country, believes in the rights of the citizen and
not of the blob and not of the collective. That
when Trump does that for this country, there's a reverberation
for other Western liberal democraties. However you put it out there.
North Korea doesn't care very much, but Western Europe and
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other countries, countries in our hemisphere are close allies. They
all see what's going on here, and there's an impact.
I'm not saying that it transforms those places, but at
least we can be the example of you don't have
to just turn into some lifeless bureaucracy that tells you
what you can and can't do all the time, where
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the people who are in charge of you are actually
no smarter than any of you and you're not allowed
to question them. And oh, by the way, you're also
not allowed to have a national identity anymore because you
need to import the entire third world into your country.
Those are things that I think President Trump brings up
as issues that allows it for allows other countries to
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have those conversations in more meaningful ways. Basically, we're defending
freedom and Western civilization here in America, and there's an
effect that goes way beyond our borders.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay, I got a positive for you, Buck. I was
in San Francisco over the weekend. I was looking at
colleges before we went to Colorado. Did you step past
all the I know where you want to go this?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
But did you did you see any of the you know,
things on the street that are kind of looking rough
for to you?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Just to avoid all that entirely.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We did not actually get out in the midst of
the crazy homeless population.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Okay, So you didn't wander the tenderloin at night to
see what was going on over there?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, we drove through it, primarily on Mission Street, which
has just been taken over by vagrants and the homeless.
But the parts of San Francisco by and large that
we were in, we were in Palo Alto, we were
actually the Bay area very nice. But I'm gonna give
something that to me, I felt like I experienced the future.
(23:14):
Some of you may have done this. I believe it's
available in Phoenix, Los Angeles and San Francisco right now
it's about to come to Miami. Buck Waimo, which is
Google's autonomous vehicle. My son and I because he saw it.
He was so excited to try it. My oldest son
and we downloaded the Weaimo app. I'm not getting paid
(23:37):
for this, by the way, Google certainly is not spending
money on this show, So just FYI. We got into
a vehicle without a driver, and I don't know how
many of you have done this, but you get it,
just like you would get an Uber or a Lyft.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
A Jaguar car pulls up on the curb, no driver.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
We got in my son wanted to go out for
pizza on I think it was Monday night in San Francisco.
Takes us right to the pizza place, pulls over to
the curb, drops us off. We then went and got
some ice cream at Jardelli Square. Some of you probably
been there before. Get picked up by a way mo Buck.
(24:21):
I believe this is going to be a crazy prediction
that can be flagged. I think within a decade at
least half of all driving in the United States will
be occurring without someone using the steering wheel. I think
it will become very common for AI driven vehicles to
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take over much of the country. I was blown away
by how efficient it was. I had zero fear. In fact,
I felt like this driver, the meaning the AI, was
better than the average uber driver we would have had.
There was one moment where like a teenage twenty something
girl cut across right in front of us to go
chase her boyfriend, and I thought to myself, oh my,
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if that was an human driver, I think it may
have hit her. This thing sinsed, it paused, slammed on
the brakes, and even though she was in the wrong
as a human, as most errors with driving or pedestrians are,
it avoided her.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
And I think a lot of humans would have hit her. Yes,
I've seen this in La. I didn't take one. I
haven't done it yet, but I saw one driving down
the street which a little do it. Oh yeah, I would.
I would totally do it. So you and I are
a little bit unusual in this regard. I talked to it,
so I have. And I don't know if this is
Maybe it's like a genetic thing amongst some guys where
(25:42):
they you either are into cars like you love cars
in car culture, or you just view it as a conveyance.
Like you know, if I'm a passenger on a plane,
I just care about the plane getting me where I
need to go. I'm not like, ooh, are we gonna
do some barrel rolls like that would be a bad
idea on a big plane. But and I feel that
you and I are alike in this regard to cars.
(26:03):
I have a brother who love My older brother loves cars.
I mean, he goes, he goes to the racetrack, he
tracks cars, he you know, he does you know, lessons
with former like retired NASCAR guys and what he loves, driving, racing,
everything about and for that. And I think there's a
fair amount of people in our audience, Clay, who probably
fit into that category. And for them, they're gonna they're
(26:25):
gonna want their old school gas normal car for as
long as they're never gonna change. And then a lot
of the rest of us are gonna be like, oh,
just you know, drive me around with my autonomous vehicle,
you know, so we'll see. It's gonna break down that way,
I think pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
My brother in law designed cars for Ford for over
twenty years. My wife is from the Detroit area, so
obviously they are super automotive family. Her father in law,
who was with us in Colorado, is still a great
skier nearly eighty years old. As soon as I did this,
I posted the video. By the way, you can scroll
down at Clay Travis. We'll put it up at Clay
(27:01):
and Buck if you are interested in what the experience
was like. I felt like I was in the future
and Buck. Historically, I'm not one of those people who
like every new tech that comes out, they're like, oh,
this is going to change everything, because I'm not that
tech savvy. In fact, my kids have started to insult me.
Some of you may have experienced this by calling me
(27:24):
an unk, meaning like if you're I've never even heard this.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I learned this term today from Clay. I don't know
if any of you haven't called this one before.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
But it's like kind of connected with old uncle, I think.
But basically, like you were over the age of thirty
five and you don't really know how to do anything tech.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You're an unk in their world. So I am an unk.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But there are there are two things that I've experienced
in my life technologically Buck, where when I experienced them,
I was like, oh, this is going to be big.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
The first was the Internet.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I remember, like I was like a sophomore in high school,
one of my friends had that AOL disc that you
put in that allowed you to get on the Internet.
I remember the very first time I went on the Internet,
and I remember thinking, oh, this thing is going to
be kind of a big deal. And I was probably
I don't know, fourteen, fifteen years old whatever I was
at that time. The other one, and this was somewhat
(28:15):
more recent. I remember the first time I saw a
flat screen HD television. It was at my brother in
law's house, and as a sports fan, I remember watching
golf and I remember thinking, this changes everything. And then
people said, well, you're going to have to try virtual reality.
Didn't buy it. You're going to have to try three
D didn't buy it. But I remember seeing HD and
(28:36):
saying I have to get a flat screen television to
have HD. It's the first thing since HD. Buck this
WAYMO autonomous driving vehicle that I have thought everybody is
going to end up doing this. And I'm not saying
you have to, but I think in the future here's
a big prediction.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I think instead of owning individual cars, a lot of
us and I would put myself in this category. Are
just going to pay a fee to have a sponsorship
or a you know, like a subscription I guess to
a autonomous vehicle company, you will constantly get picked up.
You will pay a set fee all year or every month,
(29:15):
and you will replace your insurance for your car.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
The cost of a car and.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Also will change fundamentally over the next generation. I think
the way we build cities because so much of our
cities are taken up by parking places, and if we
didn't have to have individual vehicles, I think the number
is buck. The average car has needs four spots. You
know you need to go if you go to Costco,
(29:42):
you need to have a spot. If you go to
the movie theater, you need to have a spot. And
certainly at your home or your apartment or whatever else.
I think it's going to fundamentally change the way that
cities are organized over the next generation.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
But what I was getting at by bringing up my
brother who loves who just loves cars. He's a car guy.
He can you know, he'll see somebody that has a
certain model of BMW that's twenty years old, that'll kind
of get excited and start talking about like how it
has the He's still drives stick by the way, he's
one of those. He still drives a stick shift car,
(30:16):
which is I mean to me, Oh, oh yeah, he's
But that's what I mean. He's an enthusiast. I mean,
he's a Yeah, some of you know exactly what I'm
talking about. You have someone like this in your family
or you're that guy. He's a true enthusiast. He you know,
he always But I think that they'll be there'll be
a resistance to this because people like the autonomy. You know,
(30:36):
we talk about autonomous vehicles driving themselves. They like the
autonomy of being able to drive themselves and have their
own car. There's a freedom and independence mindset and really
an American mindset that goes with this that I think
is gonna I I agree with you said you think
are that way because my brother in law loves to
(30:56):
drive a car. If you told me, Buck Clay, you
never have to drive a car again, I wouldn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I wouldn't care. And I wonder how many of the
audience like this.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
My older brother Mason, if you told him that he
could fall asleep in some futuristic tesla like car, get
everywhere in perfect safety, you know, very quickly while getting
the car to give him a foot rub. Yeah, he
would still say, I want to be in my car
with my stick shift, you know, changing gears and reving
(31:25):
that motor. Like he just that's just he's one of
I don't know how widespread this is, but I think
it's I think there are a lot of guys out
there that like driving themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Truly.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I think I would say maybe historically in the future,
I think there'll be twenty or twenty five percent of
people who still want to drive.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I would prefer being able to get into a way mo,
sit in the back and work if I've got to
drive somewhere for thirty minutes, instead of being inefficient. It
also safer instead of looking down at your phone or
trying to text. And Tesla's I know a lot of
you are driving Tesla's already, and certainly Elon and Tesla
has been the autonomous driving. The AI in Tesla, I
(32:04):
am told, is incredible. I don't own one. Have you
experienced it. I have buddies who are just like I
just put my hand barely on the wheel and just
let it drive.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I've been.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I've been in the Tesla where the autonomous driving has happened,
and it's incredible. A lot of it is you know
that they make you keep your hands I think on
the wheel even or yeah, that's why keep your hands
on the wheel even when it's driving for you, which
is unnecessary, but it makes some people feel better. I'll
just tell you this, h Clay, the technology stuff AI.
(32:34):
People think of it right now as like a glorified
chat pot a little bit, I think, but when you
start to see I have a friend who put his
blood work into AI and it was astonishingly detailed and
accurate in terms of medical diagnosis things. To consider all
these different things. The the AI technology that can take
(32:54):
Now you can say, give me a monologue in the
voice of which is scary for US radio, but.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You can get contracts done before we get placed.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah yeah, I was like, we know they can never
replace the human factor of content creators. These these technologies
are truly by the time everyone realizes how powerful they are,
they'll become so mainstream and powerful that anybody will believe
and anybody will be shocked to think that it wasn't
clear what they were all becoming, and I think autonomous
driving is one of them. But there's the other part.
(33:26):
I didn't even get to this yet, and we kind
of are running up against the clock here, but I
would just say, a lot of people drive for a living,
and this is a huge problem because a lot of
very good people. It's a lot of men, by the way,
it's guys. Mostly guys are the ones who drive for
a living. And we know we love our truckers to
listen to this show. Look, I don't think they're going
(33:47):
to be replacing truckers with autonomous truckers for at least,
you know, five or ten years before it really becomes
a thing that's bigger. But I think in ten years
it's going to be more of a conversation, and it
might be sooner than that. And you know, we got
to think about where these people are going to be gainfully,
you know, as a society, so you know there's there's
some cost to all this as well.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
That was one of the median things I thought, was
how is this going to change? Because remember, Uber, I
think is really thinking, Hey, the play down the road
that makes us super profitable is we don't actually need drivers,
Like the idea that you have an Uber driver or
a Lyft driver is just kind of a holding pattern.
And you know, just like Uber and Lyft, to a
(34:29):
large extent, replaced taxis. I think a lot of Uber
Lyft drivers are going to get replaced by these autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's going to go, but I tell you I felt buck.
It was like being in the matrix. You can sit
and watch and see what the AI sees on a
little screen right in front of you, and it reminded
me of like Keanu Reeves and the Matrix where you
can see everything moving around.
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All right, we're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck.
It was a tight one here with the timing. We'll
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We'll be back with you all tomorrow
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us, rolling through the third
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We want to say thanks, by the way to all
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We've gone over five hundred a in affiliates, massive number,
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check in on us when he's running around his district
and running around the nation, trying to make sure that
we are on the right track. Our friend, Congressman Jim Jordan,
Great State of Ohio, Congressman Howard.
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Things going. We appreciate you swinging by e.
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You've good to be good to be with you guys,
and congratulations on just an ever growing audience out there,
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
Far, so good. Four years in.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Let's dive into what you're focused on right now, which
is the federal district court judges have emerged as the
primary resistance to Trump's authority in the United States. The
Democrat Party has collapsed. We were talking about the overall
approval ratings hitting all time lows at NBC and CNN.
(01:16):
What do you think about these federal district court judges
and what do you think should be done to stop
one judge who is oftentimes an Obama appointee, from trying
to keep President Trump from being able to enact the
executive actions that the American people put him in office
to do.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I think several things. You know what, we have
oversight of Article three courts, so we're we're looking at
all this. So there's sort of this the general oversight function,
and then there's legislation that we can do. And I'm
telling Buck, I listened. We were driving this morning and
I heard I heard your show from Friday. We were
playing as we're heading off to the meeting, and you
(01:58):
were talking about this issue. And we passed this bill
to I think two or three weeks ago out of committee.
We're going to try to get it through the through
the House. But the bill says, look, you if you
have some judge in Tim Buck to California who issues
are ruling, it doesn't apply nation. Why it applies to
the parties of the case, the parties in the case
(02:18):
in that respective jurisdiction, and so you limit the ability.
What has it been I think fifteen times in eight weeks.
Actually it'd be a shorter period of time than that.
Even six seven weeks were fifteen different occasions where some
some federal judge has had a nationwide injunction against some
actions taken by President Trump, either executive order or some
of the dose things that have that have taken place.
(02:40):
And so and I think of the whole four years
of Joe Biden, it was like thirteen or fourteen. So
we think this makes sense. And then we're also just
looking at our general oversight of this, this whole thing.
And of course, the biggest example, while it was not
a nationwide injunction, but the example that tront and center
on everyone's mind is this judge, Judge Bosberg, who said, no, no, no,
it's better to bring hardened criminals back to the country,
(03:02):
gang members back to the country than to send them away,
which I think just underscores how ridiculous some of this
stuff is that we're seeing from these judges.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us so clearly
we agree that reigning in the hashtag resistance universal injunction
happy judiciary is constitutionally necessary. I have a feeling the
Democrats in the Senate, however, will be unwilling to go
along with this. So is this mostly just a function
(03:32):
of making the argument in front of the American people
that this should be done. So at least when Democrats
are claiming that this is the way it has to be,
the Trump administration can turn around and say, one, we disagree,
and two it's Democrats who are refusing to clarify this.
So of course it's going to have to make its
way up to the Supreme Court because we know they'll
(03:53):
complain about that too.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean, we could have taken a course. There's
other legislation that we're looking at where you would do
something expedited review. So if it stays the same, so
some some judge, some district federal district judge can can
issue a ruling has nationwide implications, then you get some
expedited review, some three judge panel then on the so
you could do it, you can do that route as well.
We'll look at that legislative if that makes sense. But
(04:16):
the idea is to get an answer quickly and not
have these judges and the Democrats forum shopping. But I
would back up a second. I think, really what this
is about is the left doesn't want to trust the
individual who was elected to make decisions. The left says, no, no, no,
we got to go to the judges. We got to
go to the experts in the government of bureaucrats who
(04:38):
were so much smarter than we the peoples. The whole
reason they thought doctor Fauci should run the world a
few years ago. It's not trusting in the guy who
put their name on the ballot, was elected and his
Article two, section one. I always point to this. The
very first sentence in Article two of our constitutions says
executive power shall be vested in a president of the
United States. The Democrats don't like that. They want the
(05:00):
experts to run things, and then they want to go
to the courts to run things. They don't like the
guy that the people put in power. So ultimately that's
where it's about. And then we're trying to figure out
a way to make sure that the people get their
wishes done, as it was reflected in the election on
November fifth, We're.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What is the latest that you can tell us about
the big beautiful bill that I know is working its
way through, the reconciliation bill that would deal with taxes,
that would deal with the border. I believe everything else.
What's the absolute latest there? People should know? What's the
timeframe look like? How do you see it going?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well? I think good, especially now that we've got the
cr done. You know, no one thought we could really
get that done, and everyone you thought there were going
to be some kind of fight on But when we
framed it up with this just flat funding, maybe saving
a few dollars like we did. Now that that's off
the table, I think we can turn to implementing the
dose cuts, doing the reconciliation that the American people elected
(05:58):
us to do. The speakers indicate that he wants a
May timeframe on this, to try to get this all done.
I think that'd be great if we can make it
happen that quickly. Getting some certainty on the tax code,
getting some certainty on energy policy, getting the revenue and
resources to Tom Homan and President Trump's team to make
sure they can continue to secure our border. I think
that makes this all the sense in the world, But
(06:19):
that victory last week was good. I saw Senator Murphy
Democrat Center from Connecticut on TV yesterday and he said,
this was the first time that the government spending bill
wasn't negotiated in a bipartisan fashion, didn't have bipartisan buy it.
You know what else it was. It was the first
time we passed the spending bill where we didn't spend
more money. Maybe there's a correlation there, maybe there's some
(06:41):
truth to us do it this way, so they were
not spending more money. So I thought that was a
big win for us. And now we're set to implement
the dose cuts that the Trump administration and Elon and
his team have put together along with this reconciliation package,
and let's hope we can get it done by the
spring here by May, and then get on with the
(07:02):
economy growing like we wanted to grow.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Congress and Jordan, you may have seen this a couple
of days ago. FBI Director Cash Patel, I'll share this quote.
I want to address the alarming rise in swatting incidents
targeting media figures. The FBI is aware of this dangerous trend,
and my team and I are taking action to investigate
and hold those responsible accountable. There have been a number
of people, this is the reports are out there who
(07:25):
have had this swat incident. A swatting incident's happen, and
for anyone listening, it's where someone calls in a hoax,
high threat situation to law enforcement says, oh, here's the address.
There's somebody barricaded with a gun holding a hostage, and
sometimes swat shows up and goes in heavy through the door,
(07:45):
and it's very dangerous. My understanding is that, yes, of
course this is against the law, but there's no specific
law that's brought to BAAR federal law targeting. I'm usually
not in favor of more laws, but is anyone in
the Congress can entering an anti swatting laws specifically to
address this, so that that's very clear. Hey, if you try,
(08:06):
because someone could get killed. This has there have been
lethal incidents in the past with this.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, no kid, and uh, if legislation is needed to
clarify that, we're certainly open to doing that. That that
makes sense to me. You know, this is this is
dangerous stuff, and you start messing around with this kind
of stuff for political reasons because you want to go
get you know, the someone on the other party or
whatever I know are our colleague. I think Marjorie Taylor
Green has been squatted several times. So if you're doing
(08:33):
this for political stuff, this is there should be prosecution,
just like if your Attorney General Bondi has talked about this.
If you're if you're these folks in these cities, these
sanctuary cities, and you're tipping off the bad guys when
ICE is coming to try to do their job and
you're making it difficult for ICE agents to implement and
and and force federal law.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And dangerous for them because some of these bad guys
can set up ambush.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, well we the sault. This happened in Detroit, or
excuse me, in Denver. The sanctuary city policies out there
were they let this guy go, this Abraham Gonzalez. They
let him go even though I sid said, hey, if
you're going to release this guy, we know you got him.
He's in for aggravated assault, he stole a car. If
you're going to release him, give us forty eight hours
notice so we can come to the jail and pick
(09:20):
him up in your county jail in your city. Jail,
and they said no, they released him to the street,
and then they got to go arrest him on the
streets and as a result, on ice agent got assaulted.
It's like, that's what happens when you have this crazy
left wing sanctuary city policy. So if it's that or
sweating or whatever, let's make sure that we protect the
safety and allow and if you're engaged in that kind
(09:42):
of stuff, you should be prosecuted for goodness sake.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Jim at New York Times this morning said, right now,
we're on pace for the lowest amount of border crossings
since nineteen sixty seven. I knew you had faith that
Trump and Tom Holman and Christine Home and everybody else
out there could get this thing solved.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Did even you?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Are you even astounded by how quickly he has managed
to turn the southern border into a secure zone.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, I am. And it's it's it's truly a reflection
of leaders And we all know leadership makes a difference.
And when you come in and say you you reverse
exactly what Biden said, No more, no more building the wall,
no more remain in Mexico. And when you get here,
you will not be detained. You will be released, and
President Trump came in and said, we're going to flip
those exactly one hundred eight degrees. We're going to continue
(10:31):
building the wall. We're going to make you wait in
Mexico while we evaluate your claim, and when you get here,
there is no way you will be released. You will
be you will be detained and sent back. And anyone
else who came here, we're going to find you and
send you back if you're not if you're not supposed
to be here. When you come in with that kind
of attitude, and Tom Holman is certainly reflective of that attitude,
and you do those things, it's amazing what happens. Lowis
(10:52):
encounters I think ever as you pointed out, play, but
I got admit it's the It's even faster and better
than I thought they could do it, which is again
a testament to the leadership of President Trump and his team.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Congress and Jim Jordan.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I appreciate you making the time for sirr No.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I was just gonna give you a chance because it's
in double I know what we're going to now.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yes, we're saving the republic slash let's talk sports, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Uh Buck is going to fill out a bracket, which
he's rarely done before. But I also know the wrestling
in C Double A tournament is underway, I believe, and
you are a former Uh yeah, you are a die
hard on that front. What should people know about the
n C double A tournament for the men out there
that everybody's gonna be watching this weekend and also wrestling,
I'll give you an opportunity to flex your muscles.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, and wrestling. Penn State is gonna win again, unfortunately,
but there'll be lots of there'll be there'll be a
strong competition for runner up. You know, the buck guys
will be good, Hawkeyes are good. There's either a lot,
I mean, it's all Big Ten. Then there's a few
teams from the from the twelve o'coma State will be solid.
So we'll see how that goes. We're gonna go for
the finals. I think in Philadelphia will be there for
(12:01):
the final night basketball. I'm always cheering for the Badgers,
you know, even though they got beat yesterday in that
Big Ten final. Cheering for the Badgers, which is where
I went to school. So we'll see. I don't even
know what. I haven't looked at the brackets yet. Though today,
I assume the Badger's got a pretty high seed.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Three.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're a three seed, so you're in pretty good set
up to play Alabama in the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
If you make it there, there we.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Go, there we go. Well. So I'll probably in my
bracket I usually have. If Wisconsin in the tournament, I
usually have them gone to the final four at some point,
so I'm sure I'll have that my bracket this time too.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Outstanding Stuck, you have a good work, Congressman, and we
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
You bet take care.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, he's fabulous in many respects, but I do
love that when he's out on the road, Like you said, Buck,
he was listening to you on Friday, He's like, hey,
let me go ahead and hop on and talk about
everything going on out there in the world. On the
serious note, do you agree with me there should be
a you know you're a lawyer, there should be an
anti swatting law because I know that there are there
are violations of law in swatting, but it makes it
(13:03):
easier for prosecutors. If it's you did the following things,
you are covered under this specific statute, which is trying
to prevent because right now it's you know, interstate threats,
it's false report, it's a bunch of different things. But
you know, I know there's from terrorism prosecutions, like when
there's one thing you can hit people with, like when
it's material support to terrorist group tenures in federal prison.
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It's a lot easier than trying to cobble together a
multi statute prosecution. It also simplifies and makes people aware
of what danger thinks.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
There's a political component to it or an awareness component as well.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and you just shouldn't do this. I mean, it's
it's dangerous and uh, it's just awful. I mean, there
are a lot of things out there where you can say,
we talked about this with death threats. Unfortunately, we got
some at the house during the election season. Like I
think you should. There are several things that are sort
of new because people haven't had access to direct messages
(14:02):
and social media and cell phones everything else that are
new crimes that we need to prosecute to the fullest
extent of the law to just make it clear, this
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All right, Caroline Levit just had a press conference, and
I think this is going to go down as it's
really the highlight of this one. The French apparently want
the Statue of Liberalty back. They are valley upset with us,
and they asked Caroline Levitt about this, and this is
how she responded.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Play it. There is now a member of the European
Parliament from France. What does not think the US represents
the values of the Statue of Liberty anymore? They want
the Statue of Liberty back. So is President Trump going
to send the Statue of Liberty back.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It's to France, absolutely not. And my advice to that
unnamed low level French politician would be to remind them
that it's only because of the United States of America
that the French are not speaking German right now, so
they should be very grateful to our grade country.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Wow. Burn, that one is going to sting a little bit.
And I don't even know how the Statue of Liberty
would be returned, for those of you who are not
students of history, the French which gave it the Statue
of Liberty as a gift, and they have some random
French politician Peter Doucy served up the meatball hanging over
(17:08):
the plate there for Caroline Levitt and she put it
in the upper deck as one would anticipate that she might.
And Yeah, that one's gonna smart a little bit, So
we will see how exactly that ends up playing out.
But feel pretty good about Statue of Liberty staying here. Buck, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It would be tough to move just for the serious
Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Unless we get a Ghostbusters two opportunity. Uh, they got
Statue of Liberty to move, but other than that, I
haven't seen anybody really move it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I would have to agree with that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
We'll come back here in just a second with more
from the press conference, uh and the highlights of it.
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Today Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. It
is Saint Patrick's So happy Saint Patrick's Day to everyone celebrating,
including Connor McGregor, Irish MMA Fighter champion, who was at
the White House today Cut twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Connor McGregor, listen.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Our government has long since abandoned the voices of the
people of Ireland and it's high time that America is
made aware of what is going to lon in Ireland.
What is going to lon in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Is a travesty.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Our government is the government of zero action with zero accountability.
You know, our money is being spent on overseas issues
that has nothing to do with the Irish people. The
illegal immigration recket is running ravage on the country. There
are rural towns in Ireland that has been overrunning wom's
sloop that have become a minority in wom's sloop. So
issues native addressed and the forty million Irish Americans, as
(19:47):
I said, need to hear this because if not, there
will be no place to come home and visit.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I didn't expect for Connomer. There's been talk buck that
he may run for the I guess the presidency of Iron,
and that's been kicked around at different times. But he
has become very politically outspoken. He's aligned himself with Trump,
and I didn't know that he was going to take
the White House rostrum there and preach.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
As he did.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But I do think this goes to a larger Western
civilization issue, which is many European countries are being overrun
with people who are from countries that do not embrace
democrat Western civilization and values, and that is a profound
culture shock too many of these countries, whether it's Italy,
whether it's Ireland, whether it's Great Britain, whether it is France,
(20:37):
and that impact has profoundly had a I would say,
disquieting effect on many people who live in those countries
and believe that their individual cultures matter and shouldn't be
usurped by other cultures.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well, this is also a reminder that the magnificent force
of trump Ism in this country which seeks to create
accountability in vast bureaucracies, which seeks to restore common sense,
which believes that a true Western civilization worthy of the
(21:11):
name country, believes in the rights of the citizen and
not of the blob and not of the collective. That
when Trump does that for this country, there's a reverberation
for other Western liberal democraties. However you put it out there.
North Korea doesn't care very much, but Western Europe and
(21:32):
other countries, countries in our hemisphere are close allies. They
all see what's going on here, and there's an impact.
I'm not saying that it transforms those places, but at
least we can be the example of you don't have
to just turn into some lifeless bureaucracy that tells you
what you can and can't do all the time, where
(21:54):
the people who are in charge of you are actually
no smarter than any of you and you're not allowed
to question them. And oh, by the way, you're also
not allowed to have a national identity anymore because you
need to import the entire third world into your country.
Those are things that I think President Trump brings up
as issues that allows it for allows other countries to
(22:14):
have those conversations in more meaningful ways. Basically, we're defending
freedom and Western civilization here in America, and there's an
effect that goes way beyond our borders.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay, I got a positive for you, Buck. I was
in San Francisco over the weekend. I was looking at
colleges before we went to Colorado. Did you step past
all the I know where you want to go this?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
But did you did you see any of the you know,
things on the street that are kind of looking rough
for to you?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Just to avoid all that entirely.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We did not actually get out in the midst of
the crazy homeless population.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Okay, So you didn't wander the tenderloin at night to
see what was going on over there?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, we drove through it, primarily on Mission Street, which
has just been taken over by vagrants and the homeless.
But the parts of San Francisco by and large that
we were in, we were in Palo Alto, we were
actually the Bay area very nice. But I'm gonna give
something that to me, I felt like I experienced the future.
(23:14):
Some of you may have done this. I believe it's
available in Phoenix, Los Angeles and San Francisco right now
it's about to come to Miami. Buck Waimo, which is
Google's autonomous vehicle. My son and I because he saw it.
He was so excited to try it. My oldest son
and we downloaded the Weaimo app. I'm not getting paid
(23:37):
for this, by the way, Google certainly is not spending
money on this show, So just FYI. We got into
a vehicle without a driver, and I don't know how
many of you have done this, but you get it,
just like you would get an Uber or a Lyft.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
A Jaguar car pulls up on the curb, no driver.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
We got in my son wanted to go out for
pizza on I think it was Monday night in San Francisco.
Takes us right to the pizza place, pulls over to
the curb, drops us off. We then went and got
some ice cream at Jardelli Square. Some of you probably
been there before. Get picked up by a way mo Buck.
(24:21):
I believe this is going to be a crazy prediction
that can be flagged. I think within a decade at
least half of all driving in the United States will
be occurring without someone using the steering wheel. I think
it will become very common for AI driven vehicles to
(24:42):
take over much of the country. I was blown away
by how efficient it was. I had zero fear. In fact,
I felt like this driver, the meaning the AI, was
better than the average uber driver we would have had.
There was one moment where like a teenage twenty something
girl cut across right in front of us to go
chase her boyfriend, and I thought to myself, oh my,
(25:04):
if that was an human driver, I think it may
have hit her. This thing sinsed, it paused, slammed on
the brakes, and even though she was in the wrong
as a human, as most errors with driving or pedestrians are,
it avoided her.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
And I think a lot of humans would have hit her. Yes,
I've seen this in La. I didn't take one. I
haven't done it yet, but I saw one driving down
the street which a little do it. Oh yeah, I would.
I would totally do it. So you and I are
a little bit unusual in this regard. I talked to it,
so I have. And I don't know if this is
Maybe it's like a genetic thing amongst some guys where
(25:42):
they you either are into cars like you love cars
in car culture, or you just view it as a conveyance.
Like you know, if I'm a passenger on a plane,
I just care about the plane getting me where I
need to go. I'm not like, ooh, are we gonna
do some barrel rolls like that would be a bad
idea on a big plane. But and I feel that
you and I are alike in this regard to cars.
(26:03):
I have a brother who love My older brother loves cars.
I mean, he goes, he goes to the racetrack, he
tracks cars, he you know, he does you know, lessons
with former like retired NASCAR guys and what he loves, driving, racing,
everything about and for that. And I think there's a
fair amount of people in our audience, Clay, who probably
fit into that category. And for them, they're gonna they're
(26:25):
gonna want their old school gas normal car for as
long as they're never gonna change. And then a lot
of the rest of us are gonna be like, oh,
just you know, drive me around with my autonomous vehicle,
you know, so we'll see. It's gonna break down that way,
I think pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
My brother in law designed cars for Ford for over
twenty years. My wife is from the Detroit area, so
obviously they are super automotive family. Her father in law,
who was with us in Colorado, is still a great
skier nearly eighty years old. As soon as I did this,
I posted the video. By the way, you can scroll
down at Clay Travis. We'll put it up at Clay
(27:01):
and Buck if you are interested in what the experience
was like. I felt like I was in the future
and Buck. Historically, I'm not one of those people who
like every new tech that comes out, they're like, oh,
this is going to change everything, because I'm not that
tech savvy. In fact, my kids have started to insult me.
Some of you may have experienced this by calling me
(27:24):
an unk, meaning like if you're I've never even heard this.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I learned this term today from Clay. I don't know
if any of you haven't called this one before.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
But it's like kind of connected with old uncle, I think.
But basically, like you were over the age of thirty
five and you don't really know how to do anything tech.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You're an unk in their world. So I am an unk.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But there are there are two things that I've experienced
in my life technologically Buck, where when I experienced them,
I was like, oh, this is going to be big.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
The first was the Internet.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I remember, like I was like a sophomore in high school,
one of my friends had that AOL disc that you
put in that allowed you to get on the Internet.
I remember the very first time I went on the Internet,
and I remember thinking, oh, this thing is going to
be kind of a big deal. And I was probably
I don't know, fourteen, fifteen years old whatever I was
at that time. The other one, and this was somewhat
(28:15):
more recent. I remember the first time I saw a
flat screen HD television. It was at my brother in
law's house, and as a sports fan, I remember watching
golf and I remember thinking, this changes everything. And then
people said, well, you're going to have to try virtual reality.
Didn't buy it. You're going to have to try three
D didn't buy it. But I remember seeing HD and
(28:36):
saying I have to get a flat screen television to
have HD. It's the first thing since HD. Buck this
WAYMO autonomous driving vehicle that I have thought everybody is
going to end up doing this. And I'm not saying
you have to, but I think in the future here's
a big prediction.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I think instead of owning individual cars, a lot of
us and I would put myself in this category. Are
just going to pay a fee to have a sponsorship
or a you know, like a subscription I guess to
a autonomous vehicle company, you will constantly get picked up.
You will pay a set fee all year or every month,
(29:15):
and you will replace your insurance for your car.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
The cost of a car and.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Also will change fundamentally over the next generation. I think
the way we build cities because so much of our
cities are taken up by parking places, and if we
didn't have to have individual vehicles, I think the number
is buck. The average car has needs four spots. You
know you need to go if you go to Costco,
(29:42):
you need to have a spot. If you go to
the movie theater, you need to have a spot. And
certainly at your home or your apartment or whatever else.
I think it's going to fundamentally change the way that
cities are organized over the next generation.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
But what I was getting at by bringing up my
brother who loves who just loves cars. He's a car guy.
He can you know, he'll see somebody that has a
certain model of BMW that's twenty years old, that'll kind
of get excited and start talking about like how it
has the He's still drives stick by the way, he's
one of those. He still drives a stick shift car,
(30:16):
which is I mean to me, Oh, oh yeah, he's
But that's what I mean. He's an enthusiast. I mean,
he's a Yeah, some of you know exactly what I'm
talking about. You have someone like this in your family
or you're that guy. He's a true enthusiast. He you know,
he always But I think that they'll be there'll be
a resistance to this because people like the autonomy. You know,
(30:36):
we talk about autonomous vehicles driving themselves. They like the
autonomy of being able to drive themselves and have their
own car. There's a freedom and independence mindset and really
an American mindset that goes with this that I think
is gonna I I agree with you said you think
are that way because my brother in law loves to
(30:56):
drive a car. If you told me, Buck Clay, you
never have to drive a car again, I wouldn't matter.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I wouldn't care. And I wonder how many of the
audience like this.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
My older brother Mason, if you told him that he
could fall asleep in some futuristic tesla like car, get
everywhere in perfect safety, you know, very quickly while getting
the car to give him a foot rub. Yeah, he
would still say, I want to be in my car
with my stick shift, you know, changing gears and reving
(31:25):
that motor. Like he just that's just he's one of
I don't know how widespread this is, but I think
it's I think there are a lot of guys out
there that like driving themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Truly.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I think I would say maybe historically in the future,
I think there'll be twenty or twenty five percent of
people who still want to drive.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I would prefer being able to get into a way mo,
sit in the back and work if I've got to
drive somewhere for thirty minutes, instead of being inefficient. It
also safer instead of looking down at your phone or
trying to text. And Tesla's I know a lot of
you are driving Tesla's already, and certainly Elon and Tesla
has been the autonomous driving. The AI in Tesla, I
(32:04):
am told, is incredible. I don't own one. Have you
experienced it. I have buddies who are just like I
just put my hand barely on the wheel and just
let it drive.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yes, I've been.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I've been in the Tesla where the autonomous driving has happened,
and it's incredible. A lot of it is you know
that they make you keep your hands I think on
the wheel even or yeah, that's why keep your hands
on the wheel even when it's driving for you, which
is unnecessary, but it makes some people feel better. I'll
just tell you this, h Clay, the technology stuff AI.
(32:34):
People think of it right now as like a glorified
chat pot a little bit, I think, but when you
start to see I have a friend who put his
blood work into AI and it was astonishingly detailed and
accurate in terms of medical diagnosis things. To consider all
these different things. The the AI technology that can take
(32:54):
Now you can say, give me a monologue in the
voice of which is scary for US radio, but.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You can get contracts done before we get placed.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yeah yeah, I was like, we know they can never
replace the human factor of content creators. These these technologies
are truly by the time everyone realizes how powerful they are,
they'll become so mainstream and powerful that anybody will believe
and anybody will be shocked to think that it wasn't
clear what they were all becoming, and I think autonomous
driving is one of them. But there's the other part.
(33:26):
I didn't even get to this yet, and we kind
of are running up against the clock here, but I
would just say, a lot of people drive for a living,
and this is a huge problem because a lot of
very good people. It's a lot of men, by the way,
it's guys. Mostly guys are the ones who drive for
a living. And we know we love our truckers to
listen to this show. Look, I don't think they're going
(33:47):
to be replacing truckers with autonomous truckers for at least,
you know, five or ten years before it really becomes
a thing that's bigger. But I think in ten years
it's going to be more of a conversation, and it
might be sooner than that. And you know, we got
to think about where these people are going to be gainfully,
you know, as a society, so you know there's there's
some cost to all this as well.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
That was one of the median things I thought, was
how is this going to change? Because remember, Uber, I
think is really thinking, Hey, the play down the road
that makes us super profitable is we don't actually need drivers,
Like the idea that you have an Uber driver or
a Lyft driver is just kind of a holding pattern.
And you know, just like Uber and Lyft, to a
(34:29):
large extent, replaced taxis. I think a lot of Uber
Lyft drivers are going to get replaced by these autonomous vehicles.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
And I don't know where.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's going to go, but I tell you I felt buck.
It was like being in the matrix. You can sit
and watch and see what the AI sees on a
little screen right in front of you, and it reminded
me of like Keanu Reeves and the Matrix where you
can see everything moving around.
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All right, we're closing up shop today on Clay and Buck.
It was a tight one here with the timing. We'll
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