October 28, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck deliver a dynamic mix of political analysis, cultural commentary, and personal anecdotes, with a spotlight on the booming Trump economy, escalating border security measures, and the intensifying clash over women’s sports and identity politics.
The hour opens with Clay celebrating record-breaking highs in the S&P 500, Dow Jones, and NASDAQ, crediting President Trump’s economic policies for the surge. He contrasts this with media narratives from earlier in the year that predicted economic collapse, emphasizing the disconnect between Wall Street performance and lingering ground-level effects from the Biden-era economy.
The hosts then pivot to Trump’s Asia tour, highlighting his meetings with leaders in Japan, South Korea, and potentially North Korea’s Kim Jong-un. Trump’s comments aboard Air Force One spark speculation about a JD Vance–Marco Rubio unity ticket for 2028, with Clay and Buck debating the plausibility of Trump stepping aside while endorsing his successors.
A major segment features Trump’s challenge to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) and Rep. Jasmine Crockett, mocking their intelligence and inviting them to take cognitive tests. Crockett fires back, accusing Trump of elitism and racial obsession, prompting Clay and Buck to critique the intellectual caliber of current congressional representatives across party lines.
The conversation shifts to fentanyl trafficking, with praise for the Trump administration’s aggressive military response to drug boats in international waters. Secretary of State Marco Rubio defends the policy, arguing that lethal force is justified against cartels poisoning Americans with counterfeit pills. Clay and Buck applaud the administration’s elite communicators, including Rubio and JD Vance, for articulating complex issues with clarity.
The hour also features an in-depth interview with Riley Gaines, who discusses her recent clash with AOC over women’s sports. Gaines shares her experience as a new mom, pushing back against cultural narratives that discourage young women from motherhood. She also responds to AOC’s dismissive comments about her athletic achievements, defending her fifth-place NCAA ranking and criticizing the left’s hypocrisy on women’s sports and fairness.
The segment ends with lighthearted banter about Clay’s upcoming Alcatraz swim challenge, Buck’s quest to hit a 100 mph tennis serve, and listener feedback from Michigan and Georgia. Riley humorously bets that Buck’s serve is more likely than Clay completing the swim, while Clay jokes about shark fears and training laps.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back. In our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton
show a lot of positive things. I always try to
make sure that I talk about the positivity as much
as I possibly can. We are continuing to set new
all time records. In fact, the S and P five
hundred new all time record as I am speaking to you,
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the dal Jones Industrial average new all time record as
I am speaking to you, and the NASDAK new all
time record as I am speaking with you, all time records.
For those of you out there that own stock in
any way pensions four oh one k's individual stocks, chances
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are if you happen to go gander at your stock values,
they have never been higher in your life. And I
do just want to continue to point it out than
in April you were told, oh my goodness, the stock
market is collab ap scene. Donald Trump has no idea
what he's doing with the economy, and the S and
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P five hundred is up two thousand points since then.
If you had bought stock back in April, you're up
around forty percent now on those stock purchases. If if
you merely just held on to your existing stocks and
(01:26):
just didn't even pay attention to any of it. This year,
the S and P five hundred is up right at
eighteen percent so far. You might say, Okay, well, Clay,
how does that contextualize? On average? On average, the S
and P five hundred is going to be up around
nine percent on average. Some years you might lose twenty,
some years you may make twenty. But this year is
(01:46):
a very good year so far for stocks, and we
are at record highs. So I understand also those of
you out there say, Clay Man, you don't know what
you're talking about. The economy is not as good on
the ground as you're saying, get it, And I think
a lot of that is still working through the disaster
that was the Biden economy. In general, the stock market
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runs six or twelve months in advance of the economic
conditions you see on the ground, and so all of
this is very positive. Trump is trying to make the
economic conditions better for all of us on the ground.
And right now he's in Asia. He is meeting with Japan.
I saw this morning that he had a great reception
in Japan. He is scheduled to be in South Korea. Buck.
(02:30):
I don't know if you saw this. Some whispers that
he might meet Kim Jong un again. Remember how quickly
the meeting with North Korea's reclusive dictator happened in the past.
He's going to be in South Korea, Trump is He's
going to be meeting with Chinese Premier g So there
is some possibility. Maybe there'll be additional aspects of that.
(02:53):
As part of his travel on Air Force One, Trump
has been asked answering questions quite a lot. And among
those questions, let's play a couple of these cuts, because
I thought they were entertaining, and I want to make
sure that we keep you updated with what the President
is saying. Even as we are following the New York
City's mayor race tomorrow we will have Curtis Sliwa on
(03:15):
the program, and even as we are following what's going
on in New Jersey and Virginia. One week from today
is the twenty twenty five elections. Also coming up on
the one year anniversary of Trump's record win in twenty
twenty four, but Trump yesterday on Air Force One was
asked about would he be running in twenty twenty eight.
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This obsession here is cut twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We have great people.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't have to get into them, but we have
one of them standing right here. Well, you have JD. Obviously,
the Vice president is great. I think Marco is great.
I think I'm not sure if anybody would run against us.
I think if they have a formed the group would
be let's stop what I really do.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I believe that would.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I would love to do it. I have my best
numbers efforts orry terrible, I have my best snufferencing.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You read it?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Am I not ring it up? You'll have to tell me. Okay,
So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
(04:29):
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State, JD.
Van's VP. Do you buy the idea that those guys
might just say, hey, let's keep the band together and
(04:50):
have a unity ticket and we might not even see
that much drama in twenty twenty eight, that Trump might
just say, hey, these are my guys. I'm not gonna run.
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going. You buy this. I mean,
because I'm starting to think it's more and more of
(05:11):
a possibility that they just say, hey, we're a unity ticket,
We're Trump three two point oh, three point oh. However
you want to say it, and let's not have all
the drama of this huge fight. Let's just keep things rolling.
What do you think is it too clean?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing. This is the way we think
the story should go, And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's how I view this.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yes, it should go this way, there is a pathway.
But remember I was I was doing shows play in
twenty nineteen, you know, I was doing the solo Buck
shows in twenty nineteen, when I was saying, guys, the country,
things are great, enjoy it. Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We're at peace. You know, things are great, and then boom,
a few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself
in your apartment in New York City. We have we
don't have to go back to that trauma every time.
You know, it was very difficult. I still want to
see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and then
it was kind of over. And then every time I
(06:53):
see people, you some of you guys still have a
lot of post traumatic stress. You la, you New York
Chicago go residents who really had to go through the
chaos in the insanity, oh la people, most a lot
of them had yards more whether more so. But I
mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders. I mean, I mean,
(07:14):
this was it wouldn't even let him walk.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
On the I'm just saying New York turned into a
turn to a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost in my mind. I certainly wouldn't
have been able to stay. Trump being Trump, by the way,
in addition to saying hey, JD and Marco could be
(07:41):
an incredible team, he also decided to tee off on
Jasmine Crockett and he challenged them to a cognitive test. AOC.
We're going to talk about AOC coming after our friend
Riley gains here in a moment. But Trump also challenged
AOC and Jasmine Crockett to a cognitive test, and you'll
want to hear this cut twenty two have.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
A great group of people, which they don't. They have
Jazzmin Drocket, a low IQ person.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They have.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ tests, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took those are
very hard.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Uh, they're really.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Apt to tests. I guess at a certain point when
their cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump, let Jasmin
go against some I don't think, get a Jasmine. The
first couple of questions there is the a tiger an
elephant that you have. You know, when you get up
to about five or six, and then when you get
up to ten and twenty and twenty five, they couldn't
(08:40):
come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I mean, he is just you know what's on. You
know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again.
And I think that he does just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets to live
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you guys even
(09:05):
remember what it was like back in the days when
oh everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was
boring and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In
the Bush era whatever, you know, people just said stuff.
You know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little
spicy toward the end, as we know, but in general,
we did not have a president who just says hilarious
(09:25):
things all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
But just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again, because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(09:50):
I really I feel like so many people who have
Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an inability
to process tone and context, because I mean, how could
you not laugh at this at the end of this answer?
Maybe we don't have the ability to point you already.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
They really have to do tests, I guess at a
certain point, but nick cognitive tests let AOC go against
Trump let Jasmine go against some I don't think getting
Jasmin the first couple of questions, there is he a
tiger and elephant that you have, you know, when you
get up to about five or six, and then when
you get up to ten and twenty and twenty five.
(10:30):
They couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck. Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ, got twenty three.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin.
They finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are.
Oh and I can guarantee you that whatever score, if
he's taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies
as well. Listen, he's never been known to be at Einstein.
This is not a guy who got in on merite
(11:13):
when it came to going to college. This is someone who,
but for him being born with a silver spoon, probably
wouldn't have got into anybody's institution unlike me. So you know,
I am not worried about that, and I wish people
would look at the fact that you have a president
of the United States who consistently is obsessing over two
women of color that are members of the House.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmine Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
disappointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are
a lot of people who represent us in Congress and
(11:57):
in the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in
(12:18):
politics was that he could have the success he had
with no background in politics, because there are a lot
of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around
candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes to
the political direction of the country.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
All true, and this is why we continue to hope
for reform of our government system. Yet we have people
who are so often buffoons representing us our government system.
So there's a problem there. It's a bit like how
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(12:55):
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Speaker 5 (14:09):
Welcome back into play and Buck, We're going to join
by Riley Gaines, fast swimmer, smart thinker, good comba on
her new book. Yes, but that is that she's going
to be joining us. We'll be talking to her about this,
looking looking forward to the discussion because AOC went after her,
(14:30):
which is not a surprise. Just want to note something
because we mentioned this, the blowing up of the drug
boats by this administration. I don't I don't think that
the Democrat left was prepared for how much most Americans.
And it comes after decades now of far too many
fental overdoses. And fentanyl is different than cocaine, It's different
(14:55):
than marijuana. Obviously, it is far more dangerous, far more addictive,
and far more dangerous. It's very easy to overdose on fentanyl.
And there's a whole bunch of ways.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And let me just say this too, because I've met
a lot of people out there, a lot of it's
not even overdosing, Buck, it's poisoning. You don't even know
that you're taking.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
It right, They're they're they're making it so that it
looks like pharmaceutical pills which have been assuming they're actually
made in a major farm, you know, in a major
drug company lab. At least you know the dosing, you
know what's actually in it, never mind just the dosing.
The cartels they're so they're poisoning people and it's a
(15:34):
lethal issue, and we're responding with lethal force. This is
Mark or Rubio. We didn't play this last week, Clay,
but I wanted everyone to hear it when the press
was pushing him on this issue. This is how the
Secretary of State responded Play twenty Well.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean, the question is, bottom line, these are drug votes.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up,
stop sending drugs to the United.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
States, doesn't it's in the United States. Well, these are
all in international waters.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
The boat in the United States, or well, that's a different.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Manya, you're talking about law enforcement matter.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
In this particular case, there are people traveling on international
waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind,
which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs, and
they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And
in the case last week you saw there was a submarine,
it was a submarine. It was a submersible. That's a
drug boat all the way through. We know what these
boats are, the President just said it. We tracked them
(16:21):
from the very beginning. We know who's on them, who
they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them.
And you know, if you're running drug boats here and
you're in grave danger.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
This is changing the calculation for the cartels that this
continues play. And I don't see the administration stopping. If anything.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think a lot of just everyday Americans are saying, yeah,
I don't want any work.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I don't want any more like star athletes in my
high school dying because they thought they took a xanax
and it was something else, or I don't want anybody
who's suffering from fentanyl, you know, poisoning anywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Amen. And I will just say this you, Marco Rubio, JD. Vance,
you're talking about elite I really believe this intellect and communicators.
You can just almost see and hear the eye roll
from Marco Rubio as he's having to answer that stupid
(17:11):
question about hey, well these are international waters. That's different
than the United States waters.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like the difference between an elite communicator when it comes
to these kind of questions and the media that are
asking the questions, I'm not sure we've ever seen it
exposed more than with the team that Trump has put
around him in two point zero, which are elite communicators.
You know, people come after Trump and they say, oh,
(17:38):
well he picked Pete Hegseth from Fox News, or he
picked up, you know, with Sean Duffy from Fox News.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
People who are on television. Typically people who are on
television are pretty good at communicating, and so they can
take complex issues and they can distill it down so
that it can be easily understood. JD and Marco are
also elite communicators. And we know Trump certainly is fantastic
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Welcome back in Clay Tarradis Buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be joined by our friend Riley Gaines. I
don't think you've been on since you officially became a mom,
(19:12):
So let's start there before we get into you versus AOC.
What has We have a lot of moms out there
and dads. Buck is a recent new dad. As you know,
what has most surprised you about being a mom that
maybe you didn't anticipate? How has it gone so far?
Do you have any advice for maybe expectant moms that
(19:33):
might be out there listening that have not had baby
one yet based on your experience and congratulations.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Well, thank you and congratulations to Buck too. Look, I
will say the thing that has surprised me most is honestly,
and look, I know my experience is you know one thing,
and it is very different than other women. But honestly,
how easy it is, I think especially as women, especially
as younger, and you get wrapped up in all the
horror stories. I heard them all during pregnancy. Everyone told me,
(20:05):
you know, well, you just wait, and I kept waiting
and waiting, and none of the bad things that all
of the women said were going to happen. Happened to me.
I had a fantastic pregnancy, and then it was okay,
well you just wait until delivery, and delivery came, she
was born and the process was a breeze, and then
it was okay, well you just bent up on your
sleep now because you're not going to get any sleep
when she's here. And let me tell you, I've slept
(20:25):
like a dream. She's been just the best baby, and
so I think the message that I want to send
is that there are good stories out there too. It
has been just the most magical past four weeks. She
will be a month tomorrow, which is insane. It's gone
so quick.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Isn't the best? Riley the first one. It's my first
one too. It's been so much fun.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
And honestly, I share a lot of your sentiment because people,
and I know a lot of it was well intentioned,
but there's this, you know, all congratulations to.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
The baby, You're never going to sleep again and your
life is going to be so hard. That wasn't even
true for us.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
The baby was about was hit the five months sleep regression,
and we've actually since worked with the baby and now
sleeping great again. But our baby, slept like a baby.
It was fine, and it's been amazing, and I just
want more of them. I don't know, I just feel
like there's a little bit of a strange even on
the right, a strange cultural like batten down the hatches
(21:19):
thing where everything I mean you were, you were a
super high level swimmer. I'm sure you had to get
up at five o'clock in the morning a lot and
spend a lot of time in the pool.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And that's not always fun or what you want to do,
but it's really worthwhile.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
That's it. And that's the exact same with with motherhood.
I think there's an attempt to, especially when we're talking
about younger women, to scare them out of it, honestly,
and I think you guys both know we live in
this what aboutism culture where you share these stories and
you almost feel shameful for doing it because you'll have
(21:52):
someone else who will say, well, what about my experience
or what about this? And you know they want us
to feel shameful for having these great expers. But I'm
just here to say, hasn't been that way with us.
We've had a fantastic experience.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I just want to say Riley I've had people yell
at me before because I just shared the positive experience
that I've had of making.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Walking a part of my daily routine.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
People get mad at me, like, of course you think
walking is you know, mister, like radio, I thought walking,
I mean, unless you have some real problem, like, that's
something we can all enjoy and share in. But I
just want to tell you, even when you give people
the most solid and positive and kind.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hearted advice, there will be people who are angry at you.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Percent. Yeah, walking probably also makes you a.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Racist too, So it is funny that you would say, yeah,
you got to give reparate that you would say that
anybody would say, hey, maybe you should just walk a
little bit more, and the response is, well, you're elitist,
Like I think walking something that most of us share.
All right, So you texted me yesterday and it reminded
(22:58):
me of you texting me when Simone Biles came after you.
So for those who do not know, AOC decided kind
of out of nowhere. I mean, you tell us the
story Riley to just attack you, and I think my
immediate response was this is so great for you, which
was the same thing when Simone Biles did it, and
I'm sure you had the same reaction because there's so
(23:19):
many fake accounts out there. Like my initial reaction is, Okay,
let's make sure it's actually Simone Biles. Let's make sure
it's actually AOC, because this is such a ridiculous bad
angle to be attacking someone on that I can't believe
it's real. So tell people who don't know. You're sitting
around yesterday afternoon and AOC decides kind of out of
(23:41):
the blue to come after you. What happened.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's so funny you mentioned that about Simone Biles, because honestly,
it's virtually like the exact same realization and actions that
I went through when this happened. Because I'm sitting there now,
especially being a new mom, I'm not on my phone
all the time. But this notification pop up and it says,
you know, AOC mentioned you in a comment. I click
on it and I read it, and it says something
(24:06):
to the effect of, if you channeled all of your
anger towards swimming, maybe you would have been faster or
something to the effect.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Better than fifth wild better than fifth in all of
American NCAA swimmers. This is the line of attacks. She
decided to hit you with, you're only the fifth best
at something in the entire United States. That doesn't I'd
love to be the fifth best at anything, by the way,
But yes, that's what she decided to attack you with.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
It is so true, Like it proves this line of
defense or these arguments that they're using, it proves that
they know nothing about sports. And honestly, it's pretty utterly
misogynistic because I mean, you think about it, Clay, would
she call the fifth best college football player in the
nation mediocre or sport bad at his sport or whatever.
(24:56):
The best college basketball player? No way, she wouldn't say that,
But because it's number one, I think women's sports, which
is hilarious because they claim to care about and watch
women's sports. And two, I think a less mainstream sport
like swimming. Of course, this is more of a niche sport.
It's if you're not the best, if you're not on
the Olympic team, if you're not getting gold medals at
(25:17):
the Olympics, then you're actually just not good at your sport.
And that was AOC's line of defense, so or her
her argument that she went with it there, and so
just why you can have this six foot go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, no, no, you go ahead. I didn't not didn't
want it off. You could probably go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I think the point is you have two sides of
this argument. One side is to be with and standing
for women who merely want fair competition, safety in their sports,
and privacy and areas of undressing. And the other side
is the side of the six foot four man who
was four hundred and sixty second the year prior when
competing against the men, and who flashes women in the
(25:57):
locker room. And AOC made this that she chose very clear.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Now I have to ask you, Riley, because you understand
how competitive sports are, and you're somebody who knows the
work that has to go into it and just the
the realities of the sports world. We haven't really gotten
to know each other that well, but there's a controversy
out there about whether or not as a recreational middle
(26:26):
aged tennis player, I will be able to get one
hundred mile an hour serve on camera as evidence by
a speed gun. Now, I gotta be let me interrupt
him here. This has been several months where he hasn't
in good weather. I'm just going to point out where
there hasn't been a test going on, Riley, just for
your ability and Erga, Riley, just you understand we already
(26:48):
have a ninety seven on the record, Okay, ninety seven
miles an hour. But Clay and some of the doubters
in this audience think that I will not be able
to with a little more limber shoulder and a little
a little more you know of the old Riley during
the show commercial break, he has a rubber band that
he is stretching out his shoulder with a trust tree.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's not for airing on the radio anyway. I mean,
there's got to be a clip of this go ahead.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Do you think what side of this bet I have
till the end of the year. I'll decide that much
I have till the end of the year, which now
takes me through I got about, you know, eight weeks
to get this done. Can it be done by yours truly?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Or no?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Honestly, Buck, I think there is a more plausible chance
of you serving a one hundred miles per hour serve
than there is Klay Travis actually swimming Alcatraz.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I look, I'm just saying year innocent and much like
much like Riley when AOC came after. I'm just a nice, kind,
considerate person here and I just got two by four
hacksaw Jim Duggan style by Riley here.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Which I invited Clay and Toe you're both invited next
to Ee to do this. I think we could we
could make something out of it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Can I doggy paddle the Alcatraz swim? Or is that just?
Is that too ghost?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Honestly, the worst part is how cold it is. Oh,
it's the worst part of all of it.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I am both less brilliant and less insulated than I
used to be, Clay, so that may's That's one of
the few times this was not to my advantage.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, I saw your husband Louis, and he was saying
that there are moments where you think about sharks. Did
you think this is the part that I'm actually now
is in my head. I'm not gonna lie the idea
of getting attacked by a shark while trying to do this.
You did this pregnant. Did you truly have no fear
of sharks at all?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Riley?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
When you got in the water, like didn't even cross
your mind, or at some point when you're in the
depth of the swim there, did you think, Hey, this
is a little bit scary.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
It's so funny looking back, because you're right, I did
this at gosh, seven months pregnant, and you're you're kind
of in the middle of the ocean, and you reach
a point where it gets really cold, and I think
that indicates, of course that you know, the water gets deeper,
and in those moments it's a bit unsettling, like, oh gosh,
what is swimming underneath me? But sharks, I'm I'm I
don't think I'm really scared of sharks. I watched soul
(29:20):
Surfer growing up as any Hamilton. Actually it's just I mean,
she's a dear friend of mine, but sharks are never
something that that really scared me. Literally, he's actually sat
right next to me. We're in the car together now.
He's just as sissy as what it is.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm a sissy with Louis. Then let me ask you
this though, back on the AOC thing, uh Riley and
tell Louis we said hi too, why do you think
she decided to attack you kind of out of nowhere.
It's the same question that I had when I saw
Simone Biles come after you. It's not an attack that
makes her look better to your point, being attacking someone
(30:00):
for only being the fifth best at something. Again, I
would love to be the fifth best at anything. So
with everybody out there listening, it's not a good line
of attack. Where is this coming from? Is it organized?
Do you think somebody is asking her to do it?
Was she looking for this opportunity and then you've offered
a debater and she followed up again. I think you
(30:20):
were on with Laura Ingram last night. Where is all
of this coming from in your mind?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Well, it is interesting because when you compare this to Simone,
because Simone and her argument, I mean, you would imagine
that an olympian, the best of the best, she's like
in a total league of her own. There's no one
even close to her. You would imagine she would understand
and approaches from an athlete, which of course she didn't,
but she didn't necessarily have to be politically competent in
(30:47):
AOC Her position, of course, is Morley bankrupt, But it's
just totally politically ignorant. Not only is this something that
I mean ninety nine one hundred percent of the Republican
Party and those who voted for Donald Trump. Seven million
people who voted for Donald Trump agree with that mentioned'
be in women's sports. But it's what, like I would say,
(31:07):
eighty percent of the Democratic Party. I think the number
in the Gallup polls has been somewhere between sixty seventy.
I think it's more than that of their own party
that don't agree with them. And so why is she
doing this? I think it's something that's successful on social
media platforms where you can kind of acquire that cesspool
of radical, insane lunatics, which those exist on x. I mean,
(31:29):
I think her initial post got what like forty five
million views, So you can imagine in the past twenty
four hours what my messages on all platforms like when
you're having to field forty five million AOC cronies who
just follow her page and listen to what she says.
But I don't know, it's not politically expedient at all.
(31:53):
And I think the terrifying point here is that this
is the leader of their party. People like Crockett in
AOC and Mom Donnie, that that's who all other Democrats
at all levels, by the way, that's who they look
to try to find me a moderate Democrat Clay, I
think you tweeted it a few weeks ago talking about
how Fetterman was the most sane democrat, and it's there's
(32:16):
not even a close second, Like try and try and
think of a modern democrat at any level. I mean,
there just isn't one. So this is their this is
their party's leader. This is what I guess they believe
will work. But we will continue to see them lose
in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight and further
on if they continue with I mean supporting the policy
(32:40):
is the harmful policies that they support.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thank you so much, Riley for being here, congratulating you
and Louis Yep.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Well, thank you guys. I want to see a video
of bucking this commercial break.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Oh this serve this server is going to happen, everybody,
It's going to happen. I wish you could see him
with the rubber band try to loosen up the right
shoulder in the commercial breaks. I mean, that was the
trust that was in.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
The trust tree, that was in the trust tree in
Clay's now violating trust tree. Okay, that's enough of that,
but yes, Riley, I am trying to limber up this
old man's shoulder, just a little bit like the backstroke,
only for the tennis court. Thank you for being here, Riley,
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Speaker 9 (35:58):
I just want to say to Buck, instead of swimming
in the ocean, I think he probably should have been
working on that tennis serve.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
We are all waiting to see you true wow. Calling
me out. Andy from Columbus, Georgia ll tay play.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
I don't think i've heard you talk about how many
laps you swim a week, or how Godrick Technik is.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But if you don't seriously prepare so they'll swim the.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Right way off believe, then you're gonna be gassed after
about fifteen minutes, and then you will do chalk Swood.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Shark food roll over JJ, because he's got something that
he's completely wrong about and I'm going to tee off
on JJ. Tomorrow we will have Tomorrow Buck Curtis Sliwa
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hang with us tomorrow
Welcome back. In our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton
show a lot of positive things. I always try to
make sure that I talk about the positivity as much
as I possibly can. We are continuing to set new
all time records. In fact, the S and P five
hundred new all time record as I am speaking to you,
(00:22):
the dal Jones Industrial average new all time record as
I am speaking to you, and the NASDAK new all
time record as I am speaking with you, all time records.
For those of you out there that own stock in
any way pensions four oh one k's individual stocks, chances
(00:44):
are if you happen to go gander at your stock values,
they have never been higher in your life. And I
do just want to continue to point it out than
in April you were told, oh my goodness, the stock
market is collab ap scene. Donald Trump has no idea
what he's doing with the economy, and the S and
(01:06):
P five hundred is up two thousand points since then.
If you had bought stock back in April, you're up
around forty percent now on those stock purchases. If if
you merely just held on to your existing stocks and
(01:26):
just didn't even pay attention to any of it. This year,
the S and P five hundred is up right at
eighteen percent so far. You might say, Okay, well, Clay,
how does that contextualize? On average? On average, the S
and P five hundred is going to be up around
nine percent on average. Some years you might lose twenty,
some years you may make twenty. But this year is
(01:46):
a very good year so far for stocks, and we
are at record highs. So I understand also those of
you out there say, Clay Man, you don't know what
you're talking about. The economy is not as good on
the ground as you're saying, get it, And I think
a lot of that is still working through the disaster
that was the Biden economy. In general, the stock market
(02:08):
runs six or twelve months in advance of the economic
conditions you see on the ground, and so all of
this is very positive. Trump is trying to make the
economic conditions better for all of us on the ground.
And right now he's in Asia. He is meeting with Japan.
I saw this morning that he had a great reception
in Japan. He is scheduled to be in South Korea. Buck.
(02:30):
I don't know if you saw this. Some whispers that
he might meet Kim Jong un again. Remember how quickly
the meeting with North Korea's reclusive dictator happened in the past.
He's going to be in South Korea, Trump is He's
going to be meeting with Chinese Premier g So there
is some possibility. Maybe there'll be additional aspects of that.
(02:53):
As part of his travel on Air Force One, Trump
has been asked answering questions quite a lot. And among
those questions, let's play a couple of these cuts, because
I thought they were entertaining, and I want to make
sure that we keep you updated with what the President
is saying. Even as we are following the New York
City's mayor race tomorrow we will have Curtis Sliwa on
(03:15):
the program, and even as we are following what's going
on in New Jersey and Virginia. One week from today
is the twenty twenty five elections. Also coming up on
the one year anniversary of Trump's record win in twenty
twenty four, but Trump yesterday on Air Force One was
asked about would he be running in twenty twenty eight.
(03:35):
This obsession here is cut twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We have great people.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't have to get into them, but we have
one of them standing right here. Well, you have JD. Obviously,
the Vice president is great. I think Marco is great.
I think I'm not sure if anybody would run against us.
I think if they have a formed the group would
be let's stop what I really do.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I believe that would.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I would love to do it. I have my best
numbers efforts orry terrible, I have my best snufferencing.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You read it?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Am I not ring it up? You'll have to tell me. Okay,
So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
(04:29):
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State, JD.
Van's VP. Do you buy the idea that those guys
might just say, hey, let's keep the band together and
(04:50):
have a unity ticket and we might not even see
that much drama in twenty twenty eight, that Trump might
just say, hey, these are my guys. I'm not gonna run.
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, yeah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going. You buy this. I mean,
because I'm starting to think it's more and more of
(05:11):
a possibility that they just say, hey, we're a unity ticket,
We're Trump three two point oh, three point oh. However
you want to say it, and let's not have all
the drama of this huge fight. Let's just keep things rolling.
What do you think is it too clean?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing. This is the way we think
the story should go, And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's how I view this.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yes, it should go this way, there is a pathway.
But remember I was I was doing shows play in
twenty nineteen, you know, I was doing the solo Buck
shows in twenty nineteen, when I was saying, guys, the country,
things are great, enjoy it. Trump's kicking ass, Economy's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We're at peace. You know, things are great, and then boom,
a few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself
in your apartment in New York City. We have we
don't have to go back to that trauma every time.
You know, it was very difficult. I still want to
see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I would I mean this, I walked into your apartment.
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin, Tennessee. Yeah, just basically like March
and April and maybe a little bit of May. People
were like, eh, you know a little bit, and then
it was kind of over. And then every time I
(06:53):
see people, you some of you guys still have a
lot of post traumatic stress. You la, you New York
Chicago go residents who really had to go through the
chaos in the insanity, oh la people, most a lot
of them had yards more whether more so. But I
mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders. I mean, I mean,
(07:14):
this was it wouldn't even let him walk.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
On the I'm just saying New York turned into a
turn to a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to experience the city. Anybody who has
ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments that
I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
I would have lost in my mind. I certainly wouldn't
have been able to stay. Trump being Trump, by the way,
in addition to saying hey, JD and Marco could be
(07:41):
an incredible team, he also decided to tee off on
Jasmine Crockett and he challenged them to a cognitive test. AOC.
We're going to talk about AOC coming after our friend
Riley gains here in a moment. But Trump also challenged
AOC and Jasmine Crockett to a cognitive test, and you'll
want to hear this cut twenty two have.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
A great group of people, which they don't. They have
Jazzmin Drocket, a low IQ person.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
They have.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
AOC's low IQ. You give her an IQ tests, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Read I took those are
very hard.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Uh, they're really.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Apt to tests. I guess at a certain point when
their cognitive tests. Let AOC go against Trump, let Jasmin
go against some I don't think, get a Jasmine. The
first couple of questions there is the a tiger an
elephant that you have. You know, when you get up
to about five or six, and then when you get
up to ten and twenty and twenty five, they couldn't
(08:40):
come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I mean, he is just you know what's on. You
know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again.
And I think that he does just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets to live
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you guys even
(09:05):
remember what it was like back in the days when
oh everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was
boring and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In
the Bush era whatever, you know, people just said stuff.
You know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little
spicy toward the end, as we know, but in general,
we did not have a president who just says hilarious
(09:25):
things all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test,
But just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again, because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(09:50):
I really I feel like so many people who have
Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an inability
to process tone and context, because I mean, how could
you not laugh at this at the end of this answer?
Maybe we don't have the ability to point you already.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
They really have to do tests, I guess at a
certain point, but nick cognitive tests let AOC go against
Trump let Jasmine go against some I don't think getting
Jasmin the first couple of questions, there is he a
tiger and elephant that you have, you know, when you
get up to about five or six, and then when
you get up to ten and twenty and twenty five.
(10:30):
They couldn't come close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has fireback buck. Jasmine Crockett says,
I got into college on my own. Trump didn't. This
is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has a
low IQ, got twenty three.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin.
They finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are.
Oh and I can guarantee you that whatever score, if
he's taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies
as well. Listen, he's never been known to be at Einstein.
This is not a guy who got in on merite
(11:13):
when it came to going to college. This is someone who,
but for him being born with a silver spoon, probably
wouldn't have got into anybody's institution unlike me. So you know,
I am not worried about that, and I wish people
would look at the fact that you have a president
of the United States who consistently is obsessing over two
women of color that are members of the House.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmine Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
disappointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are
a lot of people who represent us in Congress and
(11:57):
in the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in
(12:18):
politics was that he could have the success he had
with no background in politics, because there are a lot
of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around
candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes to
the political direction of the country.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
All true, and this is why we continue to hope
for reform of our government system. Yet we have people
who are so often buffoons representing us our government system.
So there's a problem there. It's a bit like how
we all want to tackle the debt, but we don't
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(12:55):
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Speaker 5 (14:09):
Welcome back into play and Buck, We're going to join
by Riley Gaines, fast swimmer, smart thinker, good comba on
her new book. Yes, but that is that she's going
to be joining us. We'll be talking to her about this,
looking looking forward to the discussion because AOC went after her,
(14:30):
which is not a surprise. Just want to note something
because we mentioned this, the blowing up of the drug
boats by this administration. I don't I don't think that
the Democrat left was prepared for how much most Americans.
And it comes after decades now of far too many
fental overdoses. And fentanyl is different than cocaine, It's different
(14:55):
than marijuana. Obviously, it is far more dangerous, far more addictive,
and far more dangerous. It's very easy to overdose on fentanyl.
And there's a whole bunch of ways.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And let me just say this too, because I've met
a lot of people out there, a lot of it's
not even overdosing, Buck, it's poisoning. You don't even know
that you're taking.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
It right, They're they're they're making it so that it
looks like pharmaceutical pills which have been assuming they're actually
made in a major farm, you know, in a major
drug company lab. At least you know the dosing, you
know what's actually in it, never mind just the dosing.
The cartels they're so they're poisoning people and it's a
(15:34):
lethal issue, and we're responding with lethal force. This is
Mark or Rubio. We didn't play this last week, Clay,
but I wanted everyone to hear it when the press
was pushing him on this issue. This is how the
Secretary of State responded Play twenty Well.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean, the question is, bottom line, these are drug votes.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up,
stop sending drugs to the United.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
States, doesn't it's in the United States. Well, these are
all in international waters.
Speaker 9 (15:56):
The boat in the United States, or well, that's a different.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Manya, you're talking about law enforcement matter.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
In this particular case, there are people traveling on international
waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind,
which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs, and
they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And
in the case last week you saw there was a submarine,
it was a submarine. It was a submersible. That's a
drug boat all the way through. We know what these
boats are, the President just said it. We tracked them
(16:21):
from the very beginning. We know who's on them, who
they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them.
And you know, if you're running drug boats here and
you're in grave danger.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
This is changing the calculation for the cartels that this
continues play. And I don't see the administration stopping. If anything.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I think a lot of just everyday Americans are saying, yeah,
I don't want any work.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I don't want any more like star athletes in my
high school dying because they thought they took a xanax
and it was something else, or I don't want anybody
who's suffering from fentanyl, you know, poisoning anywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Amen. And I will just say this you, Marco Rubio, JD. Vance,
you're talking about elite I really believe this intellect and communicators.
You can just almost see and hear the eye roll
from Marco Rubio as he's having to answer that stupid
(17:11):
question about hey, well these are international waters. That's different
than the United States waters.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like the difference between an elite communicator when it comes
to these kind of questions and the media that are
asking the questions, I'm not sure we've ever seen it
exposed more than with the team that Trump has put
around him in two point zero, which are elite communicators.
You know, people come after Trump and they say, oh,
(17:38):
well he picked Pete Hegseth from Fox News, or he
picked up, you know, with Sean Duffy from Fox News.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
People who are on television. Typically people who are on
television are pretty good at communicating, and so they can
take complex issues and they can distill it down so
that it can be easily understood. JD and Marco are
also elite communicators. And we know Trump certainly is fantastic
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Welcome back in Clay Tarradis Buck Sexton Show. We are
excited to be joined by our friend Riley Gaines. I
don't think you've been on since you officially became a mom,
(19:12):
So let's start there before we get into you versus AOC.
What has We have a lot of moms out there
and dads. Buck is a recent new dad. As you know,
what has most surprised you about being a mom that
maybe you didn't anticipate? How has it gone so far?
Do you have any advice for maybe expectant moms that
(19:33):
might be out there listening that have not had baby
one yet based on your experience and congratulations.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Well, thank you and congratulations to Buck too. Look, I
will say the thing that has surprised me most is honestly,
and look, I know my experience is you know one thing,
and it is very different than other women. But honestly,
how easy it is, I think especially as women, especially
as younger, and you get wrapped up in all the
horror stories. I heard them all during pregnancy. Everyone told me,
(20:05):
you know, well, you just wait, and I kept waiting
and waiting, and none of the bad things that all
of the women said were going to happen. Happened to me.
I had a fantastic pregnancy, and then it was okay,
well you just wait until delivery, and delivery came, she
was born and the process was a breeze, and then
it was okay, well you just bent up on your
sleep now because you're not going to get any sleep
when she's here. And let me tell you, I've slept
(20:25):
like a dream. She's been just the best baby, and
so I think the message that I want to send
is that there are good stories out there too. It
has been just the most magical past four weeks. She
will be a month tomorrow, which is insane. It's gone
so quick.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Isn't the best? Riley the first one. It's my first
one too. It's been so much fun.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
And honestly, I share a lot of your sentiment because people,
and I know a lot of it was well intentioned,
but there's this, you know, all congratulations to.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
The baby, You're never going to sleep again and your
life is going to be so hard. That wasn't even
true for us.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
The baby was about was hit the five months sleep regression,
and we've actually since worked with the baby and now
sleeping great again. But our baby, slept like a baby.
It was fine, and it's been amazing, and I just
want more of them. I don't know, I just feel
like there's a little bit of a strange even on
the right, a strange cultural like batten down the hatches
(21:19):
thing where everything I mean you were, you were a
super high level swimmer. I'm sure you had to get
up at five o'clock in the morning a lot and
spend a lot of time in the pool.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
And that's not always fun or what you want to do,
but it's really worthwhile.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
That's it. And that's the exact same with with motherhood.
I think there's an attempt to, especially when we're talking
about younger women, to scare them out of it, honestly,
and I think you guys both know we live in
this what aboutism culture where you share these stories and
you almost feel shameful for doing it because you'll have
(21:52):
someone else who will say, well, what about my experience
or what about this? And you know they want us
to feel shameful for having these great expers. But I'm
just here to say, hasn't been that way with us.
We've had a fantastic experience.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I just want to say Riley I've had people yell
at me before because I just shared the positive experience
that I've had of making.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Walking a part of my daily routine.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
People get mad at me, like, of course you think
walking is you know, mister, like radio, I thought walking,
I mean, unless you have some real problem, like, that's
something we can all enjoy and share in. But I
just want to tell you, even when you give people
the most solid and positive and kind.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Hearted advice, there will be people who are angry at you.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Percent. Yeah, walking probably also makes you a.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Racist too, So it is funny that you would say, yeah,
you got to give reparate that you would say that
anybody would say, hey, maybe you should just walk a
little bit more, and the response is, well, you're elitist,
Like I think walking something that most of us share.
All right, So you texted me yesterday and it reminded
(22:58):
me of you texting me when Simone Biles came after you.
So for those who do not know, AOC decided kind
of out of nowhere. I mean, you tell us the
story Riley to just attack you, and I think my
immediate response was this is so great for you, which
was the same thing when Simone Biles did it, and
I'm sure you had the same reaction because there's so
(23:19):
many fake accounts out there. Like my initial reaction is, Okay,
let's make sure it's actually Simone Biles. Let's make sure
it's actually AOC, because this is such a ridiculous bad
angle to be attacking someone on that I can't believe
it's real. So tell people who don't know. You're sitting
around yesterday afternoon and AOC decides kind of out of
(23:41):
the blue to come after you. What happened.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's so funny you mentioned that about Simone Biles, because honestly,
it's virtually like the exact same realization and actions that
I went through when this happened. Because I'm sitting there now,
especially being a new mom, I'm not on my phone
all the time. But this notification pop up and it says,
you know, AOC mentioned you in a comment. I click
on it and I read it, and it says something
(24:06):
to the effect of, if you channeled all of your
anger towards swimming, maybe you would have been faster or
something to the effect.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Better than fifth wild better than fifth in all of
American NCAA swimmers. This is the line of attacks. She
decided to hit you with, you're only the fifth best
at something in the entire United States. That doesn't I'd
love to be the fifth best at anything, by the way,
But yes, that's what she decided to attack you with.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
It is so true, Like it proves this line of
defense or these arguments that they're using, it proves that
they know nothing about sports. And honestly, it's pretty utterly
misogynistic because I mean, you think about it, Clay, would
she call the fifth best college football player in the
nation mediocre or sport bad at his sport or whatever.
(24:56):
The best college basketball player? No way, she wouldn't say that,
But because it's number one, I think women's sports, which
is hilarious because they claim to care about and watch
women's sports. And two, I think a less mainstream sport
like swimming. Of course, this is more of a niche sport.
It's if you're not the best, if you're not on
the Olympic team, if you're not getting gold medals at
(25:17):
the Olympics, then you're actually just not good at your sport.
And that was AOC's line of defense, so or her
her argument that she went with it there, and so
just why you can have this six foot go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, no, no, you go ahead. I didn't not didn't
want it off. You could probably go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I think the point is you have two sides of
this argument. One side is to be with and standing
for women who merely want fair competition, safety in their sports,
and privacy and areas of undressing. And the other side
is the side of the six foot four man who
was four hundred and sixty second the year prior when
competing against the men, and who flashes women in the
(25:57):
locker room. And AOC made this that she chose very clear.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Now I have to ask you, Riley, because you understand
how competitive sports are, and you're somebody who knows the
work that has to go into it and just the
the realities of the sports world. We haven't really gotten
to know each other that well, but there's a controversy
out there about whether or not as a recreational middle
(26:26):
aged tennis player, I will be able to get one
hundred mile an hour serve on camera as evidence by
a speed gun. Now, I gotta be let me interrupt
him here. This has been several months where he hasn't
in good weather. I'm just going to point out where
there hasn't been a test going on, Riley, just for
your ability and Erga, Riley, just you understand we already
(26:48):
have a ninety seven on the record, Okay, ninety seven
miles an hour. But Clay and some of the doubters
in this audience think that I will not be able
to with a little more limber shoulder and a little
a little more you know of the old Riley during
the show commercial break, he has a rubber band that
he is stretching out his shoulder with a trust tree.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That's not for airing on the radio anyway. I mean,
there's got to be a clip of this go ahead.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Do you think?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Do you think what side of this bet I have
till the end of the year. I'll decide that much
I have till the end of the year, which now
takes me through I got about, you know, eight weeks
to get this done. Can it be done by yours truly?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Or no?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Honestly, Buck, I think there is a more plausible chance
of you serving a one hundred miles per hour serve
than there is Klay Travis actually swimming Alcatraz.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I look, I'm just saying year innocent and much like
much like Riley when AOC came after. I'm just a nice, kind,
considerate person here and I just got two by four
hacksaw Jim Duggan style by Riley here.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Which I invited Clay and Toe you're both invited next
to Ee to do this. I think we could we
could make something out of it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Can I doggy paddle the Alcatraz swim? Or is that just?
Is that too ghost?
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Honestly, the worst part is how cold it is. Oh,
it's the worst part of all of it.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I am both less brilliant and less insulated than I
used to be, Clay, so that may's That's one of
the few times this was not to my advantage.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, I saw your husband Louis, and he was saying
that there are moments where you think about sharks. Did
you think this is the part that I'm actually now
is in my head. I'm not gonna lie the idea
of getting attacked by a shark while trying to do this.
You did this pregnant. Did you truly have no fear
of sharks at all?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Riley?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
When you got in the water, like didn't even cross
your mind, or at some point when you're in the
depth of the swim there, did you think, Hey, this
is a little bit scary.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
It's so funny looking back, because you're right, I did
this at gosh, seven months pregnant, and you're you're kind
of in the middle of the ocean, and you reach
a point where it gets really cold, and I think
that indicates, of course that you know, the water gets deeper,
and in those moments it's a bit unsettling, like, oh gosh,
what is swimming underneath me? But sharks, I'm I'm I
don't think I'm really scared of sharks. I watched soul
(29:20):
Surfer growing up as any Hamilton. Actually it's just I mean,
she's a dear friend of mine, but sharks are never
something that that really scared me. Literally, he's actually sat
right next to me. We're in the car together now.
He's just as sissy as what it is.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I'm a sissy with Louis. Then let me ask you
this though, back on the AOC thing, uh Riley and
tell Louis we said hi too, why do you think
she decided to attack you kind of out of nowhere.
It's the same question that I had when I saw
Simone Biles come after you. It's not an attack that
makes her look better to your point, being attacking someone
(30:00):
for only being the fifth best at something. Again, I
would love to be the fifth best at anything. So
with everybody out there listening, it's not a good line
of attack. Where is this coming from? Is it organized?
Do you think somebody is asking her to do it?
Was she looking for this opportunity and then you've offered
a debater and she followed up again. I think you
(30:20):
were on with Laura Ingram last night. Where is all
of this coming from in your mind?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
Well, it is interesting because when you compare this to Simone,
because Simone and her argument, I mean, you would imagine
that an olympian, the best of the best, she's like
in a total league of her own. There's no one
even close to her. You would imagine she would understand
and approaches from an athlete, which of course she didn't,
but she didn't necessarily have to be politically competent in
(30:47):
AOC Her position, of course, is Morley bankrupt, But it's
just totally politically ignorant. Not only is this something that
I mean ninety nine one hundred percent of the Republican
Party and those who voted for Donald Trump. Seven million
people who voted for Donald Trump agree with that mentioned'
be in women's sports. But it's what, like I would say,
(31:07):
eighty percent of the Democratic Party. I think the number
in the Gallup polls has been somewhere between sixty seventy.
I think it's more than that of their own party
that don't agree with them. And so why is she
doing this? I think it's something that's successful on social
media platforms where you can kind of acquire that cesspool
of radical, insane lunatics, which those exist on x. I mean,
(31:29):
I think her initial post got what like forty five
million views, So you can imagine in the past twenty
four hours what my messages on all platforms like when
you're having to field forty five million AOC cronies who
just follow her page and listen to what she says.
But I don't know, it's not politically expedient at all.
(31:53):
And I think the terrifying point here is that this
is the leader of their party. People like Crockett in
AOC and Mom Donnie, that that's who all other Democrats
at all levels, by the way, that's who they look
to try to find me a moderate Democrat Clay, I
think you tweeted it a few weeks ago talking about
how Fetterman was the most sane democrat, and it's there's
(32:16):
not even a close second, Like try and try and
think of a modern democrat at any level. I mean,
there just isn't one. So this is their this is
their party's leader. This is what I guess they believe
will work. But we will continue to see them lose
in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight and further
on if they continue with I mean supporting the policy
(32:40):
is the harmful policies that they support.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thank you so much, Riley for being here, congratulating you
and Louis Yep.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Well, thank you guys. I want to see a video
of bucking this commercial break.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Oh this serve this server is going to happen, everybody,
It's going to happen. I wish you could see him
with the rubber band try to loosen up the right
shoulder in the commercial breaks. I mean, that was the
trust that was in.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
The trust tree, that was in the trust tree in
Clay's now violating trust tree. Okay, that's enough of that,
but yes, Riley, I am trying to limber up this
old man's shoulder, just a little bit like the backstroke,
only for the tennis court. Thank you for being here, Riley,
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Speaker 9 (35:58):
I just want to say to Buck, instead of swimming
in the ocean, I think he probably should have been
working on that tennis serve.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
We are all waiting to see you true wow. Calling
me out. Andy from Columbus, Georgia ll tay play.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
I don't think i've heard you talk about how many
laps you swim a week, or how Godrick Technik is.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But if you don't seriously prepare so they'll swim the.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Right way off believe, then you're gonna be gassed after
about fifteen minutes, and then you will do chalk Swood.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Shark food roll over JJ, because he's got something that
he's completely wrong about and I'm going to tee off
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