October 9, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show kicks off with breaking political news: a new Quinnipiac poll in the New York City mayoral race shows Zohran Mamdani leading with 46%, followed by Andrew Cuomo at 33% and Curtis Sliwa at 15%. The hosts analyze how Mamdani’s strong position could shape the race and preview other key contests, including the Virginia Attorney General race and the upcoming elections in New Jersey.
The conversation pivots to the transformative impact of Elon Musk’s ownership of X (formerly Twitter) on American political discourse. Clay and Buck highlight data showing a dramatic shift in platform demographics—from a 37-point Democrat advantage in 2021 to a 14-point Republican edge today—underscoring how X has become a critical battleground for free speech. They contrast Musk’s principled stance with the opportunistic behavior of other tech leaders like Mark Zuckerberg, warning that platforms such as Facebook and TikTok remain vulnerable to political influence. The hosts also revisit Rush Limbaugh’s prescient call for conservative billionaires to invest in media platforms, noting Musk’s acquisition of Twitter as a game-changing move. They explore the future of AI-driven algorithms, predicting ideological divides between “woke AI” and Musk’s free-speech-oriented models.
From tech to culture, the hour examines California politics, focusing on Rep. Katie Porter’s controversial bid for governor. Clay and Buck dissect Porter’s viral CBS interview, where she clashed with a reporter over Trump voters and displayed what they describe as a bullying, unlikable demeanor. They also discuss past allegations and staff complaints, framing Porter as emblematic of the Democratic Party’s inability to handle tough questions after years of media favoritism.
The show then shifts to California wildfires, debunking climate-change narratives pushed by mainstream outlets after federal officials arrested an alleged arsonist behind the devastating Palisades fire. Clay and Buck argue that media bias obscures real issues like water shortages and firefighting failures.
Hour 3 closes on a lighter note with personal anecdotes and listener engagement: Clay’s upcoming Alcatraz swim sparks a humorous debate about shark attacks, while Buck updates listeners on his quest to throw a 100 mph fastball. The hosts mix serious political analysis with trademark humor, reinforcing why their show remains a go-to source for news, culture, and entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One bit
of breaking news here as we go into the third
hour of the program, a new poll has just been
released by Quinnipiac in the New York City Mayor's race,
now down to three since Eric Adams has dropped out.
(00:20):
According to this poll, Zorn Mamdanni forty six percent support,
Andrew Cmo thirty three percent support, Curtis Sliwa fifteen percent support. So, uh,
that is that is how all of this is breaking out.
(00:41):
And I would say, Buck, the story in New York
City continues to be that so long as there are
three candidates that are running, then Mam Donnie is going
to win, and Mom Donnie is probably going to win comfortably. Uh.
We will get into the Jinia race. We're going to
have Jason Miarez, who is dealing with the Jay Jones
(01:05):
Democrat nominee and the awful text messages that have come
out from the Democrat nominee. But you've got the Virginia race,
You've got the New Jersey race, and we are sitting
about almost exactly three weeks away from the official election
day of twenty twenty five, with all of those being
very important races. But we talked about as we were
(01:26):
going to break the way that X has changed the
conversation in the country right now, and I wanted to
play for you Harry Entton on CNN talking about what
the makeup is of Twitter now in the wake of
Elon Musk buying it? When did he buy it? Buck
(01:48):
twenty two. If I'm not mistaken, I think it's been
about three years that Elon has run Twitter. Here is
what the data reflects.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
To go back to twenty twenty one, the party I
D margin, You're thirty seven points more likely to be
a Democrat on Twitter or X. Then a Republican jump
ahead to this side of the screen. It's completely changed around.
Oh my goodness, gracious, Now it's a fourteen point lead
for Republicans on Twitter slash X. We're talking about a
fifty one point ship.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
In the margin.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, there are a lot of folks that I
know are on the left side of the aisle who
ran over to Blue Sky or ran over to threads.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But here's the field.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The bottom line is those are minuscule compared to Twitter
or X.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Use this social media.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In twenty twenty five, twenty one percent of Americans are
on Twitter or x threads, it's just eight percent.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Loose sky even smaller, just four percent.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You add together the four plus the eight that gets
you to twelve percent. That is only about half the
level that are on Twitter slash x.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So the impact is real, buck, and I think it
has been utterly transformative in terms of how the nation
debates and discusses the biggest issues in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, it shows you that Democrats are on abi to
win arguments unless they've got us just out platformed and outnumbered. Right,
this is like if you're gonna get into a if
you're gonna get into a scuffle with somebody, there's one
on one and there's ten on one. And even if
you're a really good, you know, really good fighter, quite honestly,
(03:16):
two on one is really hard. But if it's ten
on one, you're not gonna You're not gonna win that battle.
And that's what Democrats have had with social media and
with a lot of the legacy media systems that they've
had and long established control of.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
So we've seen a break.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In that and people will rightly point out, well, hold on,
they still you know, TikTok is still left wing. Uh,
dominated you know, Facebook is you know, Facebook is like
okay right now, because I think Zuckerberg realizes that you
don't want to get Trump upset at you. But the
(03:52):
fact of the matter is they can't suppress stories the
days of the Hunter Biden laptop media fiasco, or at
least for right now gone. They would not be able
to do what they did do, which was, let's remind
everybody there was even more stuff about this that just
came out, documents showing that they didn't that Biden, the
(04:12):
whole thing with Biden going to Ukraine, the obvious corruption,
the obvious handout for his family, and the payoffs for
Hunter Biden and everything.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It was all true.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
All the stuff at the right was saying about this
that we've been talking about Clay on this show for
years was all accurate. But when they tried to hide
the Hunter Biden laptop story in twenty twenty, they were
able to largely do it because of the control they
had of the online media ecosystem, which is now the
new public Square. Elon Musk has broken the back of
(04:43):
that and that is a huge benefit. I think it
made an enormous difference in Trump's election, and I think
It makes an enormous difference in the left doesn't even
want to fight us anymore publicly, like they won't actually
try the stuff that they used to because they can't
having this outnumbered and ambushed online.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I used to feel attacked all the time on social
media all the time here to the last time somebody
really came after me, and I think partly it's algorithmic,
so you see less of that. I think that's probably
by design, but the marketplace of ideas is real. My
concern is on Twitter X, my concern about YouTube and
(05:29):
TikTok and Facebook. Facebook's a good example because it's existed
for a long time. Mark Zuckerberg moves in whatever direction
the political currents move. I don't think that he has
a consistent core. If Barack Obama's in office, he's going
to do things that make Obama happy. If Biden is
(05:51):
he's going to do things that make Biden happy. And
now Trump's in office, and he's going to do things
that make Trump happy. My concern is there is no
core principle that you can point to at Facebook other
than we're going to make the party in power as
happy as we possibly can. I do think Elon has
(06:11):
demonstrated that he's willing to take the slings and arrows
of attack, even when it has a significant financial component
associated with it, in a way that the other leaders
of these media companies have not. Now, I'm somewhat cautiously
optimistic that the new paramount leadership the Ellisons, because Larry Ellison,
(06:34):
the second richest man in the world, has been pretty
stubborn and been willing to have people attack him before.
And he is a Tim Scott backer who has been
active in Republican politics before. So I'm cautiously optimistic that
he's going to provide some legacy media backbone there. We
know Rupert Murdoch has taken slings and arrows for generations
(06:58):
with The New York Post, the Wall Street, Jernal in Fox,
But do you agree with me the Zuckerbergs of the world.
I mean, if Cavin Newsom wins in twenty god forbid
in twenty twenty eight, I think he'll go right back
to whatever makes Gavin Newsom happy. I don't think there's
a principle there.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm one hundred percent in my mind at least certain
that that is the case. That a lot of what
we've seen with these social media companies. I think that Elon,
who can be a mercurial guy on some things, but
I think that on the issue of free speech and
free exchange of ideas, he is deeply devoted to that.
(07:35):
And I think that that's the best you can ask
Where people say, well, now it's just that the whim
of Elon musk on X, Well, it's the whim of
a guy who truly believes in the principle. I think
that that's the best you can ask for because it's
not a public utility and they're not going to be
able to regulate it like one. And now it's not
a social justice left wing woke looney bin. So it's better.
(08:00):
It's a lot better than it was. And we got
to take the wins where we can on this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So the point that it is, and this is where
Rush read from you saying billionaires need to get involved
back in the day, and it's like, I'm far from
a billionaire, but it's why I found it out kick.
The best thing you can do is put your money
where your mouth is. If you are listening to us
right now and you've been frustrated over the way that
media and the way that politics has and culture has
(08:26):
been influenced in this country. The best thing you can
do is put your money on the table and try
to impact that. And I believe Elon is going to
remain committed to free speech. The challenge here is there's
only a couple of guys, and right now they're all
guys that are truly committed to free speech. And this
is why I come back to as good as Trump is,
(08:49):
and as great as Trump two point zero has been
so far, what is ailing our country is going to
take twenty years to fix and mention, by the way,
President can't make it happened.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The team actually has that cut of Rush. This was
back in June of twenty twenty talking about this exact problem,
cut thirty one.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Many of you might remember the former guest host on
this program, Buck Sexton of the CIA. Buck now tweets
a lot. Does he have his own show now or
he does way way. Buck has been on a tweet
storm and had to put it in one of those
one of those thread apps because there's so many tweets
(09:33):
and he's ticked off at how conservative everything has just
given up. Has just seeded the country seated, Hollywood seeded, music, seated,
television seated, the media seated. Everything doesn't understand it. If
one of the conservative billionaires out there has any stomach
(09:56):
for saving their country from this mob, they should buy
and flip a major media platform or fun to new
one and make it an unsinkable aircraft's carrier of true
free speech.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
That is what Elon did. Yeah, he did it about
two years later, Clay. But that was the only answer,
and that's why Rush I think, seized on this right away.
That was the only way we were going to break.
It was essentially a speech blockade that they were running.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And also, this is where sometimes builds your own just
doesn't work because the scale of success required to truly
influence society. They tried with blue Sky, they've tried with Threads.
Nobody cares. And that's not because they're not trying to
do it with those platforms. It's because they aren't going
(10:45):
to reach the same level of influence because it's very
hard to get an influential app built, and you can't
just build a new one.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I try to tell people also, you've got to be
careful even if you are an occasional and a case
viewer and user of blue Sky, because as a guy,
your testosterol level will immediately drop down to that of
like a twelve year old girl, and you'll start just
to have like Brad Stealter. You'll be walking around the
(11:13):
house like I was just a blue Sky and I'm
so upset about Trump's fascism.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So just be careful.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Blue Sky only in limited doses if you want to
see how crazy the left is. But you know, Clay,
it's like trying to clean up the nuclear reactor. The
longer you're in there, the more exposed to the fallout
you are.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And I would point out too that you went on
there to your credit after the Charlie Kirk assassination. Those
platforms are far more toxic than Parlor, for instance, which
they decided was the cause of the January sixth event
and they shut it down and suddenly you couldn't even
get on the Internet. And to a large extent, there
(11:55):
is no pressure to regulate them in any way. And
you know where now, Honestly, the most fervent left wingers
go together is Reddit. That is their platform of choice.
That is influential. I don't think Blue Sky or Threads
are remotely influential. I don't ever see anybody building stories
(12:16):
around the arguments made there. Reddit is where you go
if you are a far left winger to hang out online.
So again, nobody can guarantee any commitment to principle of
free speech over time. But I do believe that Elon
is going to continue to allow Twitter to flourish as
(12:37):
a free speech platform. And what I think is coming Buck,
and I've talked about this a little bit, but I
bet you kind of see it too, is ultimately all
of AI is going to be a function of the
input of AI, and so there will be supremely woke
AI which will be very popular with the MSNBC viewers.
I think Elon's XAI is going to be popular with
(13:00):
what I would call saying people, and this idea that
AI is going to be some sort of utopia. The
algorithm is going to tell you what AI gives you,
and the Elon algorithm, I am confident, will be more
likable and acceptable in terms of its answers too many
of the people listening right now than will many of
(13:21):
the other AI.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes, this will continue to play out. In the meantime.
I do get a kick out of having my burger
brought to my house sometimes by a little robot.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
That's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That happens.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh, yes, we have little robots in Miami Beach that
deliver our food. Now, really you see them, Yes, I'll
take photos. I'll show it to you. You see them
on the street. They're just kind of buzzing along like
Johnny five number five from the What's the Short Circuit
If you remember that great underrated movie from the eighties,
Johnny five is alive man and he's bringing me your star.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's like, just in the last six months, I would say.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh wow, I didn't even know that. Oh well you were.
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Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Just an update here on this story.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Maybe we'll talk a little bit about California here in
a few ways. And this is not a surprise, but
I did want it to go on our record here
on the show that now federal officials have arrested somebody
that they say was the arsonist behind the Palisades fire,
(16:24):
that at least one of them that was so destructive,
really really burned an entire neighborhood. And this guy is
essentially a pyromaniac based on the details they have on
him already. But Clay, things like this were said about
it at the time when the actual fire was raging.
NBC News conditions that fueled California fires due to climate change,
(16:49):
climate change increased wildfire disaster. How did climate change start
the Los Angeles fires? The role of climate change, over
and over and over again, all about climate change.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Clay was a guy with a lighter.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, that's what actually happened, a crazy person with a lighter.
It was not, in fact, whether you drive an ev
or ride a bicycle or recycle that caused the fire.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Everybody. Not a surprise but worth saying.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And a lot of the attention is going to fade.
But they didn't actually have to acknowledge as much as
they should have, the failure to have enough water, the
failure to allow the fire department to do their jobs.
They tried to immediately turn this into well, how in
the world could we possibly have been able to handle
this with climate change. We had one of the congressmen
(17:41):
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Welcome back in Clay. Travis buck Sexton, Shit, oh okay,
we've got awfulness and we'll talk about this tomorrow. In
(19:06):
the attorney general's race in Virginia, the Democrat candidate sent
all sorts of violent wishes by attack.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I thought you were going to talk about California awfulness,
but yes, there's awfulness in Virginia.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Democrat stuff too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I was going to go coast to coast, so on
one side in Virginia, we've got awfulness. On the other
side of the country, Katie Porter is running for governor
to replace Gavin Newsom. She lost to Adam Schiff in
the Senate race.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
She is a.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Congresswoman right now, and it seems she is basically despised
by much of the staff that has worked with her
over years and years and years. And she had an
interview with a local CBS news anchor that went megaviral
in the past couple of days, and we're going to
(19:59):
play that for you here. But I think in many
ways what's actually going on is a this is a
function of rarely having any pushback at all. So there
is now additional There are now additional videos coming out.
This is one from twenty twenty one of Katie Porter
(20:22):
yelling at a staff member to get out of her shot.
The staff member was in the background, cut thirty two.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
So I'm on the Oversight Committee, you might know, and
that is where we did a study recently this fall
in September, and what it showed is if we don't
electrify our transportation sector, that we're going to lose more
than half a million Californians dying com maturely to air
pollution and other problems and the state could lose.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Out of my shots.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
That that's actually correct.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
It's not that and you don't need to commit as any.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Okay it does. Okay, you also were in my shot
before that. Stay out of my shot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, this is what it sounds like in Uh during
the radio show with the video, Uh, just so you know,
nobody better get in my shot or buck shot either.
But the clip yesterday that you were playing two buck
was emblematic of the fact that there isn't really.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Want to get it going again.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
The team could pull it on the yesterday. I just
sent it to Greg so we could pull it again.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
But she may be the next governor of California. And uh,
she sounds like pretty much an awful person.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I described her online and then on the show as
ogrish and that seems to have seems to have caught
on with people. And ogre is a bullying presence who
is unkind to people.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And I think that that is that is quite accurate.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
She is. She is very much a bully.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
And and also I think if somebody who is your
spouse has ever had to say under oath that you
threw boiling potato water at them, you might have a
temporary You've got a problem. I think I'm going to
throw that out there. I mean that is here, is
what happened yesterday. If you missed this, and this is
(22:22):
a CBS interview, just being asked, Hey, you know Donald
Trump has a lot of support in California as well.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Listen, what do you say to the forty percent of
California voters who you'll need in order to win, who
voted for Trump?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
A man?
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? All
everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it
is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
win the people who did not vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What if it's to you versus another Democrat?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I don't intend that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
To be the case. So how do you not intend
that to be the case? Do you do? You are
you going to ask them not to run? No?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if
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you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
You just said you don't need those Trump voters, So
you asked me if I needed them to win?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
You don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
What is your question? The question is the same thing
I asked everybody that this.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power graph.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not
and I said I support it.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer ques answer. The question is you haven't written,
and I'll answer.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win, and you're saying, no, you don't.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Is that well to those voters. Okay, so you I.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Don't want to keep doing this, so I'm going to call it.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you ask.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Every other candidate has. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just
going to circle around the had to do this before ever.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
You've never had to have an conversation to end in order.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader. So I am going to make.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, why don't we go through?
Speaker 9 (24:57):
I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's
my job as a journalist. But I will go through
and ask these and if you don't want to answer,
you don't want to answer, so nearly every legislative I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Want to have an unhappy experience for you, and I
don't want this all on camera.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, So Buck, is it wrong that I dislike both
of these people because I.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Think that's the correct I think the correct read is.
First of all, what I know what she was the journalist,
and anyone who even calls himself a journalist.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
These days, I think it's pretty funny, right.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean, it's technically still a thing, but we all
know right that it's not really a thing. It's different
at least than what the journalists say it is. But
that she was saying, she was trying to say, well,
aren't you going to have to win every vote from everybody?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You know?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
It was like speaking to a coach before the big game, like, well,
your offense is going to have to come through, so
is your defense. And then Katie Porter's like, I can
just win on defense, like shut your face, you know, like,
well yeah yeah, but just play along, right, I mean,
you're supposed it doesn't really the point wasn't the forty
percent or whatever? She just got stuck up on, you know,
stuck on this issue. But also they both you could
(26:14):
tell they don't like each other. I mean that comes
across from the interview. But also Katie Porter has a
temper and is an ogre who is mean, and people
don't like that. So this is not a good look
for her, and she can't afford I think to Let's
just say she has to have a nice personality, so
that would be it would be to her benefit to
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have a good personality.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Voters get this. This is why you have to go
around to diners and shake hands. This is why you
have to show up to speaking engagements where there might
be fifteen people there. In New Hampshire, Iowa. Remember our
guy whose name I'm forgetting, that was the actual only
Democrat that would point out that Joe Biden didn't have
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the mental or physical capacity Dean Dean whatever his name was.
When he showed up in New Hampshire and not one person,
not one person, came to his event and he said, sometimes,
you know, basically, you can't make people come. And it
was probably the most attention that you've ever got on
his entire campaign. But over time, if you meet with
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a lot of voters, people get a sense for what
you're actually like. This is what I think Katie Porter's like.
I think she is a not particularly likable brat who
is a bully.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I also thought the interviewer was not very likable either.
This was a conversation that I can't imagine watching. It's
one person asking questions you don't like, answered by somebody
else answer answered questions you don't like. And but this
is how they treat every single Republican candidate. And that
is where I think the story really lies, is that
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very few Democrats are actually able to handle contentious interviews
because most of the time they get the what flavor
ice cream did you get, mister president? Why do you
like chocolate chips so much? These are the kind of
questions they get when left wing journalists ask them questions.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Well, also, I think that and one of our callers
pointed this out yesterday. It was an entirely fair question
to ask. But the fact that the journalist who's a
little she's a little huffy about her whole journalism thing,
like slow yer, old lady, it's a CBS affiliate in
Los Angeles, Like you know, you're not You're not Thomas Payne,
calm down. But she's doing her journalism thing, and she
(28:37):
asked this question. You would generally want someone, first of all,
in the Katie Porter role here, if they're going to
be the governor, who can just take a beat and
be like, okay, look, we had a little, a little
misunderstanding there for a second. She keeps making it worse
and then in a very passive aggressive way, tries to
make it seem like she doesn't. She goes, I just
want to have a nice, nice situation. You don't want
to have a nice situation, even really nasty. But also
(28:58):
the journalist asked sing questions in the way that she
did made it seem like she was trying to push
even though there was really nothing to push on.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And I think that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Katie Porter looks at her like you're supposed to help
me win the elections, Like stop doing this thing where
you're pretending anything else, and so there was that was
part of the miscommunication that was going on there.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
How did she get elected as a congresswoman. You ever
see some of these people and think to yourself, how
did they win? I don't understand how people in Orange
County saw her and heard her and interacted with her
and said, this is our girl.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I mean, increasingly, Clay, especially for people think of this
as their as their career. What would it take for
you to run for Congress, my friend? I mean I
wouldn't do it, no chance, the money figure that it
would take, and I know you can't do that, but
I'm just saying, like the way that you know, somebody
would have to convince a person who's happy with their
(30:00):
life to run for Congress these days, it would be
it would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
First of all, you and I I like to think,
have more influence than the average congressman or woman does.
There's four hundred and thirty five of them. There aren't
that many people who talk to an audience as big
as we are fortunate enough to do every single day.
So I would argue we're more influential than the average
congress person. So that goes in there. But in Orange
County in Orange County. I'm just surprised there's not a
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Democrat who is more likable and better at representing his
or her constituents than her, the fact that she's sent
a primary.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
She's a hardcore leftist.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
She is somebody who we might even have had the
sound by yesterday, but she has said, you know, the
thing about inflation is you have to make choices, and
people need to be able to make choices, like have
more abortions because you know, food's more expensive at the
grocery store. She's a psychotic leftist, and she's not just
a mean person. By the way, those things go hand
in hand. I've never met a psycho leftist who is
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also a really good nice person. I've never that's never happened.
I've never seen it. I've never come across it. So
she's a true believer.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think in that respect.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I also though h Clay speaking of how to encourage
people to do things they might not otherwise want to do.
You know how you're going to swim from Alcatraz? Yes,
you know, and we've talked about this. My brother told
me he has a friend that did this swim from
Catalina Catalina Island, nice the Catalina Island swim. I don't
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know what the race is. Somebody will tell us in
a second. But I said, you know, nighttime swimming. Now,
you do have somebody coming who's along with you in
the kind of a launch boat or something along, you know,
kayak whatever to make sure you're okay. But you're still
in the water and it's nighttime. And I said, I
don't know if I would do that. You know, someone
got bitten by a great white shark.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
That just happened.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I just saw this, which is uh my wife saw
and sometimes I think she would like me to be
bitten by a great white shark. But she saw this.
She was like, this came up. I mean, this is
my fear. My fear on the swim from Alcatraz Buck
is that I would be so slow that I would
look like the injured seal. That is an easy one
(32:19):
to take, like snap.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know, I haven't seen I haven't seen your strokes yet,
but I'm thinking injured seal is probably how you flop
around in there.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And if you were just a shark and you were
swimming around in San Francisco Bay and you saw one
hundred or three hundred or four hundred whatever it is,
swimmers all in one pile. It would be hard to
get one. But you see me sort of floundering, looking like,
you know, the injured seal. I feel like I'm basically
just the morsel there begging to be eaten. Not good.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I'm not doing the swim.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is the guy. The guy die.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
No, he was okay, he was okay. It was often
with great white sharks. A lot of people are fascinated
by shark attacks, right, even though they're super rare and
jaws and we've all seen these movies. Often with great
white sharks, the first bite is what they call an
exploratory bite because they want to see what it is
they think it's prey, and then it can It can
sometimes be the second bite that is the more so.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
First of all, it is probably a pretty small shark,
and it might have been exploratory bite. Makes it sound
like it like pokes you in the side with its
pinky finger. No it's biting you. I mean you can
still die from that bite. But yeah, I think the
guy was fine. It wasn't my brother's friend. But Keats
had a friend who was doing that race, and somebody
else in that race got bitten by a great white shark,
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so in the same heat or whatever. Well, that's a
luck of the draw situation. Man, that's a tough one,
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Speaker 4 (35:04):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I
know we're just talking about Clay's acatraz swim. Don't worry.
I will be in the launch next to Clay urging
him on, telling him to go faster, drinking hot cocoa,
and if a shark swims close to Clay, I will
totally say shark.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
So you know what I mean, You're good. I don't
think you need to worry.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I the number of people that would celebrate me being
eaten by a great white shark. Is I'm not gonna lie.
It's not ideal. And when I saw that story, I
thought to myself, do I I don't want to go
out in a way where everybody gets to do cartwheels
over me getting killed by a shark. So I got
to think about this shark danger and I need experts
(35:46):
in some way to let me know what I like
to know the I would han Solo. I would totally
throw things at the shark if it was trying to
eat you from the boat that I'm in. Just you know,
I would throw whatever I could at it. Clay, I'd
help you out. DD.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
This is pot cast listener Kyle from Kansas play It.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Hey guys, it's Kyle from Kansas.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Love the show.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Can't help.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But notice haven't heard anything about one hundred mile per
hour serve in a while. I think it's time for
Buck to go ahead and pay up while he's an actual.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Whoa settled settle down, Kyle settled down. First of all,
we already clocked it at ninety seven, okay, so margin
NAVERI here very tight. Second of all, it's tennis season
to get in Miami. Because the hurricanes have pretty much
out a hurricane season. There will be videos, my friends.
I will not be denied on this one. I'm gonna
get to one hundred miles an hour and Clay is
(36:36):
going to swim from Alcatraz and hopefully not get eaten
by a Great white shark.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't want to jinx it, but are we actually
out of hurricane season yet? Because it's been very calm
so far, I'm afraid I think I just jinxed it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, I might have. Just don't blame me, everybody, but
it's been calm so far. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One bit
of breaking news here as we go into the third
hour of the program, a new poll has just been
released by Quinnipiac in the New York City Mayor's race,
now down to three since Eric Adams has dropped out.
(00:20):
According to this poll, Zorn Mamdanni forty six percent support,
Andrew Cmo thirty three percent support, Curtis Sliwa fifteen percent support. So, uh,
that is that is how all of this is breaking out.
(00:41):
And I would say, Buck, the story in New York
City continues to be that so long as there are
three candidates that are running, then Mam Donnie is going
to win, and Mom Donnie is probably going to win comfortably. Uh.
We will get into the Jinia race. We're going to
have Jason Miarez, who is dealing with the Jay Jones
(01:05):
Democrat nominee and the awful text messages that have come
out from the Democrat nominee. But you've got the Virginia race,
You've got the New Jersey race, and we are sitting
about almost exactly three weeks away from the official election
day of twenty twenty five, with all of those being
very important races. But we talked about as we were
(01:26):
going to break the way that X has changed the
conversation in the country right now, and I wanted to
play for you Harry Entton on CNN talking about what
the makeup is of Twitter now in the wake of
Elon Musk buying it? When did he buy it? Buck
(01:48):
twenty two. If I'm not mistaken, I think it's been
about three years that Elon has run Twitter. Here is
what the data reflects.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
To go back to twenty twenty one, the party I
D margin, You're thirty seven points more likely to be
a Democrat on Twitter or X. Then a Republican jump
ahead to this side of the screen. It's completely changed around.
Oh my goodness, gracious, Now it's a fourteen point lead
for Republicans on Twitter slash X. We're talking about a
fifty one point ship.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
In the margin.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, there are a lot of folks that I
know are on the left side of the aisle who
ran over to Blue Sky or ran over to threads.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But here's the field.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The bottom line is those are minuscule compared to Twitter
or X.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Use this social media.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In twenty twenty five, twenty one percent of Americans are
on Twitter or x threads, it's just eight percent.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Loose sky even smaller, just four percent.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You add together the four plus the eight that gets
you to twelve percent. That is only about half the
level that are on Twitter slash x.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So the impact is real, buck, and I think it
has been utterly transformative in terms of how the nation
debates and discusses the biggest issues in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, it shows you that Democrats are on abi to
win arguments unless they've got us just out platformed and outnumbered. Right,
this is like if you're gonna get into a if
you're gonna get into a scuffle with somebody, there's one
on one and there's ten on one. And even if
you're a really good, you know, really good fighter, quite honestly,
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two on one is really hard. But if it's ten
on one, you're not gonna You're not gonna win that battle.
And that's what Democrats have had with social media and
with a lot of the legacy media systems that they've
had and long established control of.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
So we've seen a break.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
In that and people will rightly point out, well, hold on,
they still you know, TikTok is still left wing. Uh,
dominated you know, Facebook is you know, Facebook is like
okay right now, because I think Zuckerberg realizes that you
don't want to get Trump upset at you. But the
(03:52):
fact of the matter is they can't suppress stories the
days of the Hunter Biden laptop media fiasco, or at
least for right now gone. They would not be able
to do what they did do, which was, let's remind
everybody there was even more stuff about this that just
came out, documents showing that they didn't that Biden, the
(04:12):
whole thing with Biden going to Ukraine, the obvious corruption,
the obvious handout for his family, and the payoffs for
Hunter Biden and everything.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
It was all true.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
All the stuff at the right was saying about this
that we've been talking about Clay on this show for
years was all accurate. But when they tried to hide
the Hunter Biden laptop story in twenty twenty, they were
able to largely do it because of the control they
had of the online media ecosystem, which is now the
new public Square. Elon Musk has broken the back of
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that and that is a huge benefit. I think it
made an enormous difference in Trump's election, and I think
It makes an enormous difference in the left doesn't even
want to fight us anymore publicly, like they won't actually
try the stuff that they used to because they can't
having this outnumbered and ambushed online.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I used to feel attacked all the time on social
media all the time here to the last time somebody
really came after me, and I think partly it's algorithmic,
so you see less of that. I think that's probably
by design, but the marketplace of ideas is real. My
concern is on Twitter X, my concern about YouTube and
(05:29):
TikTok and Facebook. Facebook's a good example because it's existed
for a long time. Mark Zuckerberg moves in whatever direction
the political currents move. I don't think that he has
a consistent core. If Barack Obama's in office, he's going
to do things that make Obama happy. If Biden is
(05:51):
he's going to do things that make Biden happy. And
now Trump's in office, and he's going to do things
that make Trump happy. My concern is there is no
core principle that you can point to at Facebook other
than we're going to make the party in power as
happy as we possibly can. I do think Elon has
(06:11):
demonstrated that he's willing to take the slings and arrows
of attack, even when it has a significant financial component
associated with it, in a way that the other leaders
of these media companies have not. Now, I'm somewhat cautiously
optimistic that the new paramount leadership the Ellisons, because Larry Ellison,
(06:34):
the second richest man in the world, has been pretty
stubborn and been willing to have people attack him before.
And he is a Tim Scott backer who has been
active in Republican politics before. So I'm cautiously optimistic that
he's going to provide some legacy media backbone there. We
know Rupert Murdoch has taken slings and arrows for generations
(06:58):
with The New York Post, the Wall Street, Jernal in Fox,
But do you agree with me the Zuckerbergs of the world.
I mean, if Cavin Newsom wins in twenty god forbid
in twenty twenty eight, I think he'll go right back
to whatever makes Gavin Newsom happy. I don't think there's
a principle there.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm one hundred percent in my mind at least certain
that that is the case. That a lot of what
we've seen with these social media companies. I think that Elon,
who can be a mercurial guy on some things, but
I think that on the issue of free speech and
free exchange of ideas, he is deeply devoted to that.
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And I think that that's the best you can ask
Where people say, well, now it's just that the whim
of Elon musk on X, Well, it's the whim of
a guy who truly believes in the principle. I think
that that's the best you can ask for because it's
not a public utility and they're not going to be
able to regulate it like one. And now it's not
a social justice left wing woke looney bin. So it's better.
(08:00):
It's a lot better than it was. And we got
to take the wins where we can on this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So the point that it is, and this is where
Rush read from you saying billionaires need to get involved
back in the day, and it's like, I'm far from
a billionaire, but it's why I found it out kick.
The best thing you can do is put your money
where your mouth is. If you are listening to us
right now and you've been frustrated over the way that
media and the way that politics has and culture has
(08:26):
been influenced in this country. The best thing you can
do is put your money on the table and try
to impact that. And I believe Elon is going to
remain committed to free speech. The challenge here is there's
only a couple of guys, and right now they're all
guys that are truly committed to free speech. And this
is why I come back to as good as Trump is,
(08:49):
and as great as Trump two point zero has been
so far, what is ailing our country is going to
take twenty years to fix and mention, by the way,
President can't make it happened.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The team actually has that cut of Rush. This was
back in June of twenty twenty talking about this exact problem,
cut thirty one.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Many of you might remember the former guest host on
this program, Buck Sexton of the CIA. Buck now tweets
a lot. Does he have his own show now or
he does way way. Buck has been on a tweet
storm and had to put it in one of those
one of those thread apps because there's so many tweets
(09:33):
and he's ticked off at how conservative everything has just
given up. Has just seeded the country seated, Hollywood seeded, music, seated,
television seated, the media seated. Everything doesn't understand it. If
one of the conservative billionaires out there has any stomach
(09:56):
for saving their country from this mob, they should buy
and flip a major media platform or fun to new
one and make it an unsinkable aircraft's carrier of true
free speech.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
That is what Elon did. Yeah, he did it about
two years later, Clay. But that was the only answer,
and that's why Rush I think, seized on this right away.
That was the only way we were going to break.
It was essentially a speech blockade that they were running.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And also, this is where sometimes builds your own just
doesn't work because the scale of success required to truly
influence society. They tried with blue Sky, they've tried with Threads.
Nobody cares. And that's not because they're not trying to
do it with those platforms. It's because they aren't going
(10:45):
to reach the same level of influence because it's very
hard to get an influential app built, and you can't
just build a new one.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I try to tell people also, you've got to be
careful even if you are an occasional and a case
viewer and user of blue Sky, because as a guy,
your testosterol level will immediately drop down to that of
like a twelve year old girl, and you'll start just
to have like Brad Stealter. You'll be walking around the
(11:13):
house like I was just a blue Sky and I'm
so upset about Trump's fascism.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
So just be careful.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Blue Sky only in limited doses if you want to
see how crazy the left is. But you know, Clay,
it's like trying to clean up the nuclear reactor. The
longer you're in there, the more exposed to the fallout
you are.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And I would point out too that you went on
there to your credit after the Charlie Kirk assassination. Those
platforms are far more toxic than Parlor, for instance, which
they decided was the cause of the January sixth event
and they shut it down and suddenly you couldn't even
get on the Internet. And to a large extent, there
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is no pressure to regulate them in any way. And
you know where now, Honestly, the most fervent left wingers
go together is Reddit. That is their platform of choice.
That is influential. I don't think Blue Sky or Threads
are remotely influential. I don't ever see anybody building stories
(12:16):
around the arguments made there. Reddit is where you go
if you are a far left winger to hang out online.
So again, nobody can guarantee any commitment to principle of
free speech over time. But I do believe that Elon
is going to continue to allow Twitter to flourish as
(12:37):
a free speech platform. And what I think is coming Buck,
and I've talked about this a little bit, but I
bet you kind of see it too, is ultimately all
of AI is going to be a function of the
input of AI, and so there will be supremely woke
AI which will be very popular with the MSNBC viewers.
I think Elon's XAI is going to be popular with
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what I would call saying people, and this idea that
AI is going to be some sort of utopia. The
algorithm is going to tell you what AI gives you,
and the Elon algorithm, I am confident, will be more
likable and acceptable in terms of its answers too many
of the people listening right now than will many of
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the other AI.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yes, this will continue to play out. In the meantime.
I do get a kick out of having my burger
brought to my house sometimes by a little robot.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
That's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That happens.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh, yes, we have little robots in Miami Beach that
deliver our food. Now, really you see them, Yes, I'll
take photos. I'll show it to you. You see them
on the street. They're just kind of buzzing along like
Johnny five number five from the What's the Short Circuit
If you remember that great underrated movie from the eighties,
Johnny five is alive man and he's bringing me your star.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It's like, just in the last six months, I would say.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh wow, I didn't even know that. Oh well you were.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
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Welcome back in to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Just an update here on this story.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Maybe we'll talk a little bit about California here in
a few ways. And this is not a surprise, but
I did want it to go on our record here
on the show that now federal officials have arrested somebody
that they say was the arsonist behind the Palisades fire,
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that at least one of them that was so destructive,
really really burned an entire neighborhood. And this guy is
essentially a pyromaniac based on the details they have on
him already. But Clay, things like this were said about
it at the time when the actual fire was raging.
NBC News conditions that fueled California fires due to climate change,
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climate change increased wildfire disaster. How did climate change start
the Los Angeles fires? The role of climate change, over
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Speaker 5 (17:01):
Clay was a guy with a lighter.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, that's what actually happened, a crazy person with a lighter.
It was not, in fact, whether you drive an ev
or ride a bicycle or recycle that caused the fire.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Everybody. Not a surprise but worth saying.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
And a lot of the attention is going to fade.
But they didn't actually have to acknowledge as much as
they should have, the failure to have enough water, the
failure to allow the fire department to do their jobs.
They tried to immediately turn this into well, how in
the world could we possibly have been able to handle
this with climate change. We had one of the congressmen
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on who did a really good job discussing this on
the program at the time and wrote a great editorial
for the Wall Street Journal that laid out in fact,
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Welcome back in Clay. Travis buck Sexton, Shit, oh okay,
we've got awfulness and we'll talk about this tomorrow. In
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the attorney general's race in Virginia, the Democrat candidate sent
all sorts of violent wishes by attack.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I thought you were going to talk about California awfulness,
but yes, there's awfulness in Virginia.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Democrat stuff too.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I was going to go coast to coast, so on
one side in Virginia, we've got awfulness. On the other
side of the country, Katie Porter is running for governor
to replace Gavin Newsom. She lost to Adam Schiff in
the Senate race.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
She is a.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Congresswoman right now, and it seems she is basically despised
by much of the staff that has worked with her
over years and years and years. And she had an
interview with a local CBS news anchor that went megaviral
in the past couple of days, and we're going to
(19:59):
play that for you here. But I think in many
ways what's actually going on is a this is a
function of rarely having any pushback at all. So there
is now additional There are now additional videos coming out.
This is one from twenty twenty one of Katie Porter
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yelling at a staff member to get out of her shot.
The staff member was in the background, cut thirty two.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
So I'm on the Oversight Committee, you might know, and
that is where we did a study recently this fall
in September, and what it showed is if we don't
electrify our transportation sector, that we're going to lose more
than half a million Californians dying com maturely to air
pollution and other problems and the state could lose.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Out of my shots.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
That that's actually correct.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
It's not that and you don't need to commit as any.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Okay it does. Okay, you also were in my shot
before that. Stay out of my shot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, this is what it sounds like in Uh during
the radio show with the video, Uh, just so you know,
nobody better get in my shot or buck shot either.
But the clip yesterday that you were playing two buck
was emblematic of the fact that there isn't really.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Want to get it going again.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
The team could pull it on the yesterday. I just
sent it to Greg so we could pull it again.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
But she may be the next governor of California. And uh,
she sounds like pretty much an awful person.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I described her online and then on the show as
ogrish and that seems to have seems to have caught
on with people. And ogre is a bullying presence who
is unkind to people.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And I think that that is that is quite accurate.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
She is. She is very much a bully.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
And and also I think if somebody who is your
spouse has ever had to say under oath that you
threw boiling potato water at them, you might have a
temporary You've got a problem. I think I'm going to
throw that out there. I mean that is here, is
what happened yesterday. If you missed this, and this is
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a CBS interview, just being asked, Hey, you know Donald
Trump has a lot of support in California as well.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Listen, what do you say to the forty percent of
California voters who you'll need in order to win, who
voted for Trump?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
A man?
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? All
everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it
is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
win the people who did not vote for Trump.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What if it's to you versus another Democrat?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I don't intend that.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
To be the case. So how do you not intend
that to be the case? Do you do? You are
you going to ask them not to run? No?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if
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you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
You just said you don't need those Trump voters, So
you asked me if I needed them to win?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
You don't feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
What is your question? The question is the same thing
I asked everybody that this.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power graph.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Every other candidate has answered this question. This is not
and I said I support it.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer ques answer. The question is you haven't written,
and I'll answer.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win, and you're saying, no, you don't.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Is that well to those voters. Okay, so you I.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Don't want to keep doing this, so I'm going to call it.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you ask.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Every other candidate has. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just
going to circle around the had to do this before ever.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
You've never had to have an conversation to end in order.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader. So I am going to make.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, why don't we go through?
Speaker 9 (24:57):
I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's
my job as a journalist. But I will go through
and ask these and if you don't want to answer,
you don't want to answer, so nearly every legislative I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
Want to have an unhappy experience for you, and I
don't want this all on camera.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, So Buck, is it wrong that I dislike both
of these people because I.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Think that's the correct I think the correct read is.
First of all, what I know what she was the journalist,
and anyone who even calls himself a journalist.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
These days, I think it's pretty funny, right.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean, it's technically still a thing, but we all
know right that it's not really a thing. It's different
at least than what the journalists say it is. But
that she was saying, she was trying to say, well,
aren't you going to have to win every vote from everybody?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You know?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
It was like speaking to a coach before the big game, like, well,
your offense is going to have to come through, so
is your defense. And then Katie Porter's like, I can
just win on defense, like shut your face, you know, like,
well yeah yeah, but just play along, right, I mean,
you're supposed it doesn't really the point wasn't the forty
percent or whatever? She just got stuck up on, you know,
stuck on this issue. But also they both you could
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tell they don't like each other. I mean that comes
across from the interview. But also Katie Porter has a
temper and is an ogre who is mean, and people
don't like that. So this is not a good look
for her, and she can't afford I think to Let's
just say she has to have a nice personality, so
that would be it would be to her benefit to
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have a good personality.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Voters get this. This is why you have to go
around to diners and shake hands. This is why you
have to show up to speaking engagements where there might
be fifteen people there. In New Hampshire, Iowa. Remember our
guy whose name I'm forgetting, that was the actual only
Democrat that would point out that Joe Biden didn't have
(26:57):
the mental or physical capacity Dean Dean whatever his name was.
When he showed up in New Hampshire and not one person,
not one person, came to his event and he said, sometimes,
you know, basically, you can't make people come. And it
was probably the most attention that you've ever got on
his entire campaign. But over time, if you meet with
(27:20):
a lot of voters, people get a sense for what
you're actually like. This is what I think Katie Porter's like.
I think she is a not particularly likable brat who
is a bully.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I also thought the interviewer was not very likable either.
This was a conversation that I can't imagine watching. It's
one person asking questions you don't like, answered by somebody
else answer answered questions you don't like. And but this
is how they treat every single Republican candidate. And that
is where I think the story really lies, is that
(27:55):
very few Democrats are actually able to handle contentious interviews
because most of the time they get the what flavor
ice cream did you get, mister president? Why do you
like chocolate chips so much? These are the kind of
questions they get when left wing journalists ask them questions.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Well, also, I think that and one of our callers
pointed this out yesterday. It was an entirely fair question
to ask. But the fact that the journalist who's a
little she's a little huffy about her whole journalism thing,
like slow yer, old lady, it's a CBS affiliate in
Los Angeles, Like you know, you're not You're not Thomas Payne,
calm down. But she's doing her journalism thing, and she
(28:37):
asked this question. You would generally want someone, first of all,
in the Katie Porter role here, if they're going to
be the governor, who can just take a beat and
be like, okay, look, we had a little, a little
misunderstanding there for a second. She keeps making it worse
and then in a very passive aggressive way, tries to
make it seem like she doesn't. She goes, I just
want to have a nice, nice situation. You don't want
to have a nice situation, even really nasty. But also
(28:58):
the journalist asked sing questions in the way that she
did made it seem like she was trying to push
even though there was really nothing to push on.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
And I think that.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Katie Porter looks at her like you're supposed to help
me win the elections, Like stop doing this thing where
you're pretending anything else, and so there was that was
part of the miscommunication that was going on there.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
How did she get elected as a congresswoman. You ever
see some of these people and think to yourself, how
did they win? I don't understand how people in Orange
County saw her and heard her and interacted with her
and said, this is our girl.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I mean, increasingly, Clay, especially for people think of this
as their as their career. What would it take for
you to run for Congress, my friend? I mean I
wouldn't do it, no chance, the money figure that it
would take, and I know you can't do that, but
I'm just saying, like the way that you know, somebody
would have to convince a person who's happy with their
(30:00):
life to run for Congress these days, it would be
it would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
First of all, you and I I like to think,
have more influence than the average congressman or woman does.
There's four hundred and thirty five of them. There aren't
that many people who talk to an audience as big
as we are fortunate enough to do every single day.
So I would argue we're more influential than the average
congress person. So that goes in there. But in Orange
County in Orange County. I'm just surprised there's not a
(30:28):
Democrat who is more likable and better at representing his
or her constituents than her, the fact that she's sent
a primary.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
She's a hardcore leftist.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
She is somebody who we might even have had the
sound by yesterday, but she has said, you know, the
thing about inflation is you have to make choices, and
people need to be able to make choices, like have
more abortions because you know, food's more expensive at the
grocery store. She's a psychotic leftist, and she's not just
a mean person. By the way, those things go hand
in hand. I've never met a psycho leftist who is
(31:00):
also a really good nice person. I've never that's never happened.
I've never seen it. I've never come across it. So
she's a true believer.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think in that respect.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I also though h Clay speaking of how to encourage
people to do things they might not otherwise want to do.
You know how you're going to swim from Alcatraz? Yes,
you know, and we've talked about this. My brother told
me he has a friend that did this swim from
Catalina Catalina Island, nice the Catalina Island swim. I don't
(31:35):
know what the race is. Somebody will tell us in
a second. But I said, you know, nighttime swimming. Now,
you do have somebody coming who's along with you in
the kind of a launch boat or something along, you know,
kayak whatever to make sure you're okay. But you're still
in the water and it's nighttime. And I said, I
don't know if I would do that. You know, someone
got bitten by a great white shark.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
That just happened.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I just saw this, which is uh my wife saw
and sometimes I think she would like me to be
bitten by a great white shark. But she saw this.
She was like, this came up. I mean, this is
my fear. My fear on the swim from Alcatraz Buck
is that I would be so slow that I would
look like the injured seal. That is an easy one
(32:19):
to take, like snap.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You know, I haven't seen I haven't seen your strokes yet,
but I'm thinking injured seal is probably how you flop
around in there.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And if you were just a shark and you were
swimming around in San Francisco Bay and you saw one
hundred or three hundred or four hundred whatever it is,
swimmers all in one pile. It would be hard to
get one. But you see me sort of floundering, looking like,
you know, the injured seal. I feel like I'm basically
just the morsel there begging to be eaten. Not good.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I'm not doing the swim.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
This is the guy. The guy die.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
No, he was okay, he was okay. It was often
with great white sharks. A lot of people are fascinated
by shark attacks, right, even though they're super rare and
jaws and we've all seen these movies. Often with great
white sharks, the first bite is what they call an
exploratory bite because they want to see what it is
they think it's prey, and then it can It can
sometimes be the second bite that is the more so.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
First of all, it is probably a pretty small shark,
and it might have been exploratory bite. Makes it sound
like it like pokes you in the side with its
pinky finger. No it's biting you. I mean you can
still die from that bite. But yeah, I think the
guy was fine. It wasn't my brother's friend. But Keats
had a friend who was doing that race, and somebody
else in that race got bitten by a great white shark,
(33:40):
so in the same heat or whatever. Well, that's a
luck of the draw situation. Man, that's a tough one,
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Speaker 4 (35:04):
All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I
know we're just talking about Clay's acatraz swim. Don't worry.
I will be in the launch next to Clay urging
him on, telling him to go faster, drinking hot cocoa,
and if a shark swims close to Clay, I will
totally say shark.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
So you know what I mean, You're good. I don't
think you need to worry.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I the number of people that would celebrate me being
eaten by a great white shark. Is I'm not gonna lie.
It's not ideal. And when I saw that story, I
thought to myself, do I I don't want to go
out in a way where everybody gets to do cartwheels
over me getting killed by a shark. So I got
to think about this shark danger and I need experts
(35:46):
in some way to let me know what I like
to know the I would han Solo. I would totally
throw things at the shark if it was trying to
eat you from the boat that I'm in. Just you know,
I would throw whatever I could at it. Clay, I'd
help you out. DD.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
This is pot cast listener Kyle from Kansas play It.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Hey guys, it's Kyle from Kansas.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Love the show.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Can't help.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But notice haven't heard anything about one hundred mile per
hour serve in a while. I think it's time for
Buck to go ahead and pay up while he's an actual.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Whoa settled settle down, Kyle settled down. First of all,
we already clocked it at ninety seven, okay, so margin
NAVERI here very tight. Second of all, it's tennis season
to get in Miami. Because the hurricanes have pretty much
out a hurricane season. There will be videos, my friends.
I will not be denied on this one. I'm gonna
get to one hundred miles an hour and Clay is
(36:36):
going to swim from Alcatraz and hopefully not get eaten
by a Great white shark.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't want to jinx it, but are we actually
out of hurricane season yet? Because it's been very calm
so far, I'm afraid I think I just jinxed it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, I might have. Just don't blame me, everybody, but
it's been calm so far. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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