September 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Gold Star families strike back at Kamala Harris after phony Trump at Arlington stories. Biden appealed to blue collar Americans, Kamala doesn't. Afghanistan withdrawal Gold Star families on Trump. Combat vet, C&B Podcast Network host Sean Parnell of “Battleground Live” joins the show to talk about the Arlington controversy and Pennsylvania politics. VIP emails.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Play in Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you so much for being here with us. Bottom
of the hour, we're gonna have our friend Sean Parnell
joining hosts of the Battleground Live podcast on the Play
and Buck podcast Network. The more of you that listened
to Sean, I think, the more of you become Sewan
listeners over the long haul. He does a great show.
(00:22):
He's a combat veteran, a great guy, and I think
you will really enjoy listen to him week after week.
But we'll talk to him here about this issue that
came up yesterday when you had Trump invited by some
Gold Star families that had they had asked Trump to
(00:45):
come with them to Arlington National Cemetery, and the media,
the Democrats have now tried to take this into an
opportunity to attack Trump for politicizing Arlington. This is what
they said. The Harris campaign released some statement attacking him
(01:05):
and trying to push this narrative once again. You know, Clay,
I was watching, Yes, I was watching Morning Joe this morning.
It's true I was, and they were very much pushing
all this stuff about Trump, how he doesn't respect our
military and he doesn't he says that military as are
suckers and losers and all this stuff, all the same
tired nonsense and stuff that's been said before. I mean,
(01:28):
I can tell you every war fighter that I know
is either pro Trump or certainly anti Kamala. So I've
not met anybody who was all the front lines in
any conflict says.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I really, I'm just saying this is my personal experience.
I've never met anybody who was a true warfighter who
was saying to me, you know what, I think Kamala
Harris would be great commander in chief. But more to
our point here, Clay, a number of these after Kamala
put out this attack on Trump for being there, a
number of gold Starlies have come out defending Donald Trump
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on this issue, saying that they asked for Trump to
be there. And really, I mean I could summarize this.
I mean, they put out these long videos. It's very
you know, it's heart wrenching stuff. You're hearing from these
parents who have lost who lost their children, their loved
ones who are serving this country and specifically in Afghanistan
and at the Abbey Gate where we remember the horrific
(02:29):
mess of a withdrawal under Biden led to a mass
casualty event for US service members who were there. And
you have these gold star families, Clay coming out and
saying that not only did we want Trump to be there,
but Kamala and Biden are mia on this issue. It's
politically a problem for them. They don't want to spend
(02:51):
any time thinking about or talking about the disastrous withdrawal,
the loss of US service members, the hasty droning of
an Afghan family that was just driving around in Kable
at the time, that was all on Biden's watch, a
number of children killed in that strike. No, instead they're
attacking Trump for showing up with the families while Biden,
(03:11):
of course is at the beach and Kamala's doing whatever Kamala.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Was doing well.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
They also invited Kamala to come and honor their lost
family members, and she just ignored them. And what kind
of stands out to me here is not only that
it's an unforced error because of all the things that
you could be focused on, I'm not sure exactly what
(03:37):
I would be attacking Trump on, But is there anybody
out there in the Democrat base who is going to
support Kamala because they think that she's stronger on military
defense and veterans' issues than Trump. Sometimes the battles that
you fight tell us where you think there are voters
(03:58):
to be gained. What am I missing here? Because I
think your point is a good one. Buck, the more
likely you are to have risked your life in general
defending this country, the more likely you are to support
Trump over Kamala. Now, there are some people out there
who are military veterans who put their lives on the line,
(04:19):
that are traditional Democrat voters. But maybe let's say, what
do you think sixty five thirty five at best for Kamala.
She's minus thirty on people who put their lives on
the line to serve this country and who they're voting for.
So when I see a situation like this, it not
only to me feels like a really miscalculation based on
(04:41):
hearing these gold star families respond, but also who's watching
Morning Joe who is a persuadable former combat veteran that
is unclear or unsure who they're going to be supporting.
To me, this kind of is just evidence of the
Kamala campaign losing its footing and just kind of of
(05:03):
all the things to be going after Trump on this
is a mess, right. I can't even see the calculus
behind which they would get engaged in this battle. It
doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, you had including the gold Star father Mark Schmitz,
for example, father of Lance Corporal Jared Schmidtz, said that
they didn't invite Trump to the cemetery to quote help
his campaign. We wanted a leader, schmidt said, how do
you sleep at night knowing it was you, this administration,
You and Biden, you being the last one in the room,
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are responsible for the death of our thirteen kids, said
Jim McCollum, gold star, father of Lance Corporal Riley McCollum.
And these are in some of these These are quotes
from the videos that these gold Star parents put out
on this issue. And I think that the Kamala campaign
really opened the door to all this, right, I mean,
(05:58):
Trump is there at the record rest of these families,
and they put out some cheap shot and now they're
saying there was like a tussle or something between a
member of the of the Arlington staff, you know, like
what do we understand?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
My point?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like it's just such an unforced air if I were
Kamala and I have been involved in any way in
the death of these thirteen people. And Joe Biden had
been looking at his watch when they returned. This is
really really bad ground for them to be fighting on.
And then they're also in a difficult spot, and I
just who are they trying to persuade here?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, well, I think that for Kamala voters, it's just
the reflexive approach from the campaign. It is just attack.
I mean, it's Trump, you got to attack him. And
maybe in this case that will backfire on them a
little bit. But you know, there's also a lot of
people who really look Clay. I mean, I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. They're talking about ho, Kamala is
doing a great job on the campaign trail. I'm sitting here,
(06:57):
I'm like, she won't do interviews. When she interview, she's horrible.
She needs her vice president there like a like a
you know, like a white safety blanket or something, you know,
like a like a And they're saying she's doing a
good job and people will believe anything, right, I mean,
this is what this is really where things are.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, remember they said that Biden was mentally astute,
up till about a week before they forced him out,
so that, yes, Kamala.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Was the biggest liar of all on this issue.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kamala Harris is a joke in public life. She should
be laughed out of of you know, the contention for
any office. She was the prime person in. Joe Biden
is fine, he's a dude, He's great. And then when
the polls turned, she was jose to all, he's got dementia.
Shove him out the door. And then the whole thing
(07:46):
that they're asking the American people to just swallow so
much nonsense.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's absurd.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Have you thought the about this? What does Kamala Harris
do if you are right and she loses as president
in this race? Right, she loses in the presidential race.
Usually you want to I'll tell you what her job is.
What do you think she does. I'm probably head of
like the U cal system or something. They'll give her
(08:14):
some Democrat sweet spot, you know, million dollar a year.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
She'll get it. She'll get a big book deal. Because remember,
even if you're not useful to the apparatus. In the
same way, it's like a mob boss that has his
family paid off while he's in prison. Like the left
takes care of their people no matter what because they
need the system to keep going the way that it is,
So you don't see that way. I think she'll get
the president of a universe.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
She may get a job it pays her. But I
think they're gonna bury her like they buried Michael Ducacus.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh politically yeah, but I'm saying, I mean, your.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Career is over, and they'll just kind of like put
her off the pasture. She's not that old for a politician, right,
This in many ways is ideal for them because it
ends her career, Whereas if Biden had run and lost,
she would have been like the TOS contender to be
the nominee.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This just like her career is over. I've said this
all along. This is this is why they panicked and
they made a bad but this whole shove Biden away thing,
you know, you notice that they're you know, what they're
really trying to do and when it when it counts. Now,
there's a lot of focus on unions. Why are Democrats
so obsessed? What I love too is Morning Joe. I Mean,
(09:23):
the guy's dressed like he's he's coming off of like
the cricket or the polo field, and he's like, you
know what I really care about union's union labor and
union work. Joe Scarborough doesn't even have anybody on his
phone who actually works in a union union bosses because
they come on and you nonsense, Sure they're guests, but
like an actual I mean, do you think, Joe, when
(09:45):
was the last time Joe Scarborough had lunch with a
plumber or an electrician. I can tell you the answer
is never. And they just play this whole game about oh,
the blue collar But but why because your point about
sort of sec football fans, the people who are going
to determine the election Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. All the data
(10:08):
points in this direction. It's going to be white guys
who work with their hands, or drive or do something,
white guy blue collar workers. And so this is why,
all of a sudden it's all about the unions for
the Kamala Harris and Walls campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This is why also, I think the panic's starting to
set in, because I really do think and you'll know,
the panic won't set in until they've lost, right, and
then they'll just throw Kamala Harris to the side. The
Joe Scarboroughs of the world will come on and they'll say, look,
this was a function of just a rapid campaign. Kamala
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wasn't that great of a candidate. She didn't have appeal
in the Midwest. They're going to tell you all the
things that we're telling you right now again, get out
and vote. But I think there's starting to be a
panic setting in with who the voters are, who are
going to decide to election. You know, you know how
they they always had this and political cliches. We try
to avoid them, but sometimes cliches are that way for
a reason, right because everyone knows that that's true.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There's the there's the beer test, and people say this
about George W. Bush a lot, like he's a guy
you'd want to have a beer with. Having briefed them
a couple of times in the Oval office, I don't know.
I mean, he's not that fun, but that was kind
of serious subject. Also, he didn't drink anymore, so it
didn't apply for him. And there's all like Biden and
Trump didn't drink, like there's been a lot of non
drinkers lately. So but but I think there's a a
(11:29):
Trump era version of that test, and I think it
will actually possibly determine the election. I think it probably
will determine the election. And you could call it the
construction work the construction workers at lunch test, okay, because
it's construction workers. And by that I mean the electricians,
the draw you know, the the the teamsters, the pipe fitters,
the steel workers, the you know that, the you know,
(11:52):
the general contractors. But construction workers I'll use as the
catch all for that clay. If they're sitting down at
lunch and they're you know, they're having the sandwich, they're
having the drick, whatever they're taking the moment. Do they
want to have Donald Trump? I know he's a billionaire. No,
they want Donald Trump's thinking they are Kamala Harris. I
really think that the construction worker test. Construction workers like Trump,
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and you know what, Trump likes construction workers. And Kamala
Harris looks down on them. And they know that she
is the daughter of two PhDs. She's never had a
hard job in her life. They know that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And that's why Biden worked because they were able to
convince people. Rus Grant and Joe was a real thing.
And you and I might know you and I and
everybody out there might know now that that's BS. How
are you going to sell Kamala? And I think they're
starting to recognize now. Their answer might be, well, we're
(12:48):
going to drive up and I think this is probably
what their logic would be, Well, Kamala is going to
drive up black turnout in Detroit and Philadelphia and Pittsburgh
and Milwaukee. Here's the problem. I don't think most black people.
We played a couple of clips from MSNBC they had
a multi racial panel last week. Buck, I don't think
most black people are looking around, particularly not black dudes,
being like, Hey, you know whose experience is like mine?
(13:10):
You know who I really connect with? That half Indian,
half Jamaican chick whose mom and dad were both PhDs,
who grew up in Canada, Like, she hasn't anything like
the average person in Atlanta or Milwaukee or Philadelphia who
has had a black experience in America.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
The Democrats were right about this. In twenty twenty, Joe
Biden was the wingman to a successful two term black president,
and the black community liked and responded to that role
of you know that piece of.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
The threatened old white people because he's an old white
guy but I'm just saying within the black community, Biden
actually had a lot of and we know, you know,
Clive Burne and South Carolina turned around for Biden. Biden
did well. Biden's vote, Biden's numbers in twenty twenty with
the black we're strong, very strong. I think he's going
to do better with the black And I know this
(14:04):
goes to our bet.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think Biden does better with the black community than
Kamala does when you see the numbers come in, I
really do believe that, and I think it's in part
because of that narrative.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we'll see, well, yeah, by black community mean men
and women voting. I think when we look at both
of their both of the talies, I think it's likely
to go in that direction. We'll see.
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that Trump has had in Pennsylvania. There's also a combat veteran.
We're going to get his take on all of this.
I think misguided attack from Kamala Harris on Donald Trump.
But you don't have to take my word from it
(16:29):
for it. You can hear from the gold Star families themselves,
who released their own comments on this story. Listen to
cut thirty one.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Stephenna Cooley.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I'm the father of Lance Corporal Kareem M.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nicoohy, and your administration killed my son, spent.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Three years as my Casilla's cool in action, and myself,
my family and other goos Star families have not seen
any support from you or your administration.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Your recent remarks related to Trump's visit to Arlington or
filled with nothing but lies in the seat.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
President Trump and his team are respectful.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They listened to our stories.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And didn't talk much at all. We welcomed them that
day and they were comfort to our family.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Why did we want Trump there? There wasn't to help
this political campaign.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
We wanted a leader that explains why you and Joe
didn't get a call.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We invited President Trump.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Let me be clear, there was no politics discussed, none whatsoever.
There was also not an assault that we observed take
place or did we hear it. I don't know where
this is coming from, but it's disgusting and gross.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Gold Star family is rallying to Trump's ode on this
because he was their invited guest Clay.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They wanted him there, and it, to me is just
the latest example of Kamala Harris unforced errors. Her campaign
isn't ready for prime time. They are made a mess
of this. We'll talk about it with Sean Parnell next
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combat veteran of Afghanistan. Sean, let's start with that. We
want to talk to you Pennsylvania politics too, obviously. You know,
as a bored and raised Pennsylvanian and a guy who
(19:28):
still lives out west there, you know the politics there
very well. We'll get to that in a moment. First, though,
Kamala Harris's team attacking Trump for going with gold Star
families to Arlington at their request. What do you make
of this?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Oh, it's a terrible, terrible thing that she did, and
a huge mistake. And I heard Clay talking in the
lead in about it being just indicative of her campaign
not being ready for prime time. But I also think
it speaks to the fact that you know, this isn't
your grandfather's Democrat Party. The modern day Democrat Party seems
wholly untethered from what it means to serve. And I
(20:06):
have to tell you, as someone who served in combat,
who lost soldiers, who's written letters home to families of
the fallen, and then was lucky to make it back
from combat after four hundred and eighty five days, was
wounded a couple times in Afghanistan. It was my job
as I was the rear detachment commander and primarily my
responsibilities Clay and Buck were to notify families of the
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fallen and be casualty assistants. So I have to tell
you it is absolutely stunning to me that Kamala Harris,
who's running to be this country's commander in chief, has
not spoken to these thirteen families of the fall these
thirteen goal star families. It is simply incomprehensible to me,
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ultimately a dereliction of duty because the title commander predisposed
as chief, her first responsibility in the job title is
to these families, and she's wholly ignored them, but not
just ignored them. Now she's taking it a step farther
and is attacking someone who's not commander in chief for
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showing up to support them.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Absolutely unbelievable to me.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's what stood out to me, Sean, was it felt
like incompetence to try and make this an issue after
the way we withdrew from Afghanistan. If I were advising
Kamala Harris on her campaign, I would have said, Okay,
let's just pretend this never happened, right, I'm talking about
if I were trying to advise her and let's go
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talk about abortion more, I mean honestly, and so to
decide that, you're like, who is the person that is
going to be persuaded, and was like, you know, I
wasn't really sure whether I was a Kamala or a
Trump person. And then Kamala made the way that the
gold Star families were treated at Arlington across the river
from where I'm sitting in Washington, DC right now, and
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now I'm on Kamala's team. If anything, all it does
is strengthen Trump, and it's an issue for him that
is very strong. It feels very incompetent to me.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And again he's he's these thirteen soldiers were killed because
of Biden and Harris's incompetence. You know, they were the
number one, number two. Kamala braggs about being the last
person in the room when that decision was made and
Trump was Trump shows up And just to be clear,
(22:32):
having gone to these and presented American flags the families
of the fallen, I'll tell you quite personally, it is
very it's a very very difficult thing to attend. You know,
in many ways as a leaders, you're scared to go.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You know, it's.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Emotionally draining, right, So I mean to some lighthearted thing.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yes, and the fact that Trump shows up just it's leading.
He's leading by example on every single front, and he
he's showing up when he knows it's going to be
emotionally taxing and difficult, but it's also the right thing
to do in.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
His first and foremost job as commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Speaking of Sean Parnell, comment veteran hosts of the Battleground
Live podcast on the Clay and Buck Network, Sean, let's
talk Pennsylvania for a moment here. Kamala has just been there.
Clay had a statistician on last week It was saying
that basically, so go with Pennsylvania, So go with the race.
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What can you tell us from a ground up view
of how things are looking there? Not only just for
the presidential contest, which is obviously top of mine, but
got a very important Senate race going on between Dave
McCormick and Bob was Bob Casey right, I got to
remember all these games? What can you tell us about
(23:51):
about the state of play?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh, listen, I'm telling you Pennsylvania, And I want to
be clear for people who are listening, it has never
been more favorable for Republicans. I mean, look at the
difference between twenty sixteen, where Democrats had a nine hundred
and sixteen thousand person voter registration advantage, nine hundred and
sixteen thousand more registered Dems than Republicans, and today that's
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only three hundred and fifty thousand. And here's what's really important.
As of today, the Democrats are short like fifteen percent
in their vote by mail totals comparing with twenty twenty.
They have banked one hundred and thirty two thousand votes
less than they did in twenty twenty at this same time,
and Democrats strategists dismiss it away and they say, oh,
(24:35):
but COVID, But that's not the whole story, because Democrats
absolutely positively need that floor in twenty twenty of those
mail in ballots in order for whin they barely won
with the floor as it was.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
And there are one hundred and thirty two thousand votes
down as of today, and the clock is ticking. And
the reality is with vote by mail is that you
just need time to try find out and get those
ballots in, and they're running out of time, whereas Republicans
are banking mail in votes at a rate that's not
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been seen before, going back to the inception of mail
in voting in Pennsylvania, which was in October of twenty nineteen.
And so Trump is performing not only better like with
mail in votes than ever before, but he's also doing
extraordinarily well with pro life, pro gun democrats, working class
union democrats. They're going to help get them across the
goal line. And I think that the Trump McCormick ticket
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you asked about Dave McCormick and Bob Casey, there are
so many synergies between the Trump Toomey ticket in sixteen
and the Trump McCormick ticket they both won. They're vastly
different and almost every all they're very, very different. And
McCormick and Trump are on the same page, your campaigning together,
but they they have a lot of synergy at the
(25:54):
top of the ticket, where Trump appeals to that working class,
you know, middle class union democrat, McCormick perhaps appeals more to,
you know, suburban voters. The two of them at the
top of the ticket, it's very formidable. I think Republicans
have a better shot at taking Pennsylvania during this election
cycle than any other election cycle.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
During the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay, Sean for people out there who are listening to
us in Pennsylvania and also for those who are just
paying attention on the national level, when does voting start?
Because I think it's like in ten or fifteen days.
In Pennsylvania, it's a fifty day election. Well, I want
how many days?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Twelve? What? It's crazy? All right?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So you and then the second part of this is
we want and I think this is important. We talked
about it earlier. We want you to go vote because
of something you just said on the back end there.
I didn't realize this. This is something I had to
learn after twenty twenty two. When you get voted, when
you're a Republican out there and your vote is taken,
they can take you off the list and they don't
(26:54):
need to spend get out the vote resources on you anymore.
They are allowed then to votocus on other people. So
if you are a diehard Trump person or a McCormick
person listening to us right now, you should go vote
as early as you possibly can so that all the
resources can go to people who need to be motivated
and or assisted to get out the vote. But I
(27:15):
want you to lay that out for people in particular
to understand that in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, I mean, just imagine all sixty seven counties in
Pennsylvania and every voter on an Excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Once we get a vote banked.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
In other words, you vote by mail, we bank your vote,
we check your name off the list, and you know,
we just take all the money that we have and
we focus it on people who haven't banked their vote.
So this has a cascading effect, and the more people
that bank their vote, the more surgical we can use
our resources to direct people low propensity voters on election
day to get out. And if you're uncomfortable with mail
(27:49):
and voting, I get it, but we have to adapt
our strategy and fight with the political rules on the
battlefield as they are today. We can only change this
these elections if we win. Okay, and so Republicans they
banking their vote is absolutely critical, And if you're uncomfortable
with it, you can still show up on election day
and cast a provisional ballot.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So you vote by mail, bank your vote.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You can still show up an election day to cast
a provisional ballot if you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's totally fine.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
But we've got to fight like the Democrats do in
order to win, and we're doing that this cycle. So
you know, get in the fight with us, get in
the trenches with us. You know, bank your vote if
we win this state, the Keystone state's the key to everything.
We win the state of Pennsylvania, it's a heck of
a lot more likely, uh that that Republicans also win
Wisconsin and Michigan as well, and that Pennsylvania is the key.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So we've we've got to laser in and focus on it.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, what are you seeing, Sean in terms of
the uh, the ad spend on television? I know this
is like a very basic meat and potatoes kind of
a thing. But are they just inundating the airwaves with
with lies about Trump? Or is it is the is
the Trump paying the RNC? Are they fighting fire with fire?
I'm just wondering about, you know, how the how the
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media battles going.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Pennsylvania is tough for a lot of reasons because it's
ideologically diverse, but there are also five media markets. You
have Erie, you have Pittsburgh, you have Harrisburg, you you
have Philadelphia, you have Scranton. So it's very, very expensive.
But the airwaves right now are completely inundated with political ads.
But the remarkable thing is that, all told, the total
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sum of Democrat and Republicans spending in Pennsylvania is pretty
darn near even. And that is an unbelievable thing because
the Democrats almost always, always, always outspend Republicans by three
to one margin. And so the fact that the spending
in Pennsylvania shows you, it shows you that one, Pennsylvania
is everything.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Without Pennsylvania, I don't see how Kamala has a path
at all. But two, Like the ad spending is just
outrageously expensive here, and so it's going to be an
unbelievable thing to see sprint to the finish here in
this state, to be sure, but it's a very very
important state, and I think everybody knows it.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Sean Pornell, you now have a new quarterback for your
Pittsburgh Steelers. Good luck with Russell Wilson. I want to
mention this, what do you think of Russell Wilson. By
the way, I've seen him play like three downs.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
He hardly played it all on three says, And this
is why I hedged on the original question.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
But look, we will see. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
But what I do know is that my fantasy football league,
the Maga Warrior Fantasy Football League, and my team, the Impeachables,
we are tracking for a number one. We are going
to be number one this year. But I can speak
to that with absolute certainty.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I wanted to mention this because Pennsylvania is going to
matter so much. I am going to be and you
may well be there too, Sean, because I know you
spoke and did so fabulously well at one of the
most recent Trump rallies. I'm going to be with Senate
candidate Dave McCormick on November the second, which is the
final Saturday before election Day, surrounding the Ohio State penn
(31:08):
State game. That game is being played that Saturday. I'm
going to be up in the state of Pennsylvania doing
my best to help mobilize people. So that's on the
calendar now for November second, and hopefully by that point
the Pittsburgh Steelers have finally found a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hopefully, and let's get pitt in the top twenty five.
You know I'm at penn State, Yeah, of course, but
I'm a pit fan through and through can we please
crack the top twenty five and stay there this year.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I didn't even know Pittstall had a football team. All right,
that's fun. You are doing the Lord's work. Keep us updated.
We're going to have you on a lot, and we
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I know they do. Your podcast getting downloaded like crazy
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So thank you both.
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is maybe the only debate we're gonna get between Trump
and Kamala. But you just heard from Sean Parnell. I
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(35:57):
with the same age. If someone is football jokes, it
is Clay, it is not Buck.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Can we just be clear Clay is the one who
likes the football jokes. I didn't even know what Pitt was.
Is it the Pittsburgh College, Pittsburgh Panthers? Yes, the pitt Panthers.
By the way, I like this email for Mike. I
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Third hour of Play in Buck kicks off. Now, everybody,
thank you so much for being here with us. Bottom
of the hour, we're gonna have our friend Sean Parnell
joining hosts of the Battleground Live podcast on the Play
and Buck podcast Network. The more of you that listened
to Sean, I think, the more of you become Sewan
listeners over the long haul. He does a great show.
(00:22):
He's a combat veteran, a great guy, and I think
you will really enjoy listen to him week after week.
But we'll talk to him here about this issue that
came up yesterday when you had Trump invited by some
Gold Star families that had they had asked Trump to
(00:45):
come with them to Arlington National Cemetery, and the media,
the Democrats have now tried to take this into an
opportunity to attack Trump for politicizing Arlington. This is what
they said. The Harris campaign released some statement attacking him
(01:05):
and trying to push this narrative once again. You know, Clay,
I was watching, Yes, I was watching Morning Joe this morning.
It's true I was, and they were very much pushing
all this stuff about Trump, how he doesn't respect our
military and he doesn't he says that military as are
suckers and losers and all this stuff, all the same
tired nonsense and stuff that's been said before. I mean,
(01:28):
I can tell you every war fighter that I know
is either pro Trump or certainly anti Kamala. So I've
not met anybody who was all the front lines in
any conflict says.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I really, I'm just saying this is my personal experience.
I've never met anybody who was a true warfighter who
was saying to me, you know what, I think Kamala
Harris would be great commander in chief. But more to
our point here, Clay, a number of these after Kamala
put out this attack on Trump for being there, a
number of gold Starlies have come out defending Donald Trump
(02:04):
on this issue, saying that they asked for Trump to
be there. And really, I mean I could summarize this.
I mean, they put out these long videos. It's very
you know, it's heart wrenching stuff. You're hearing from these
parents who have lost who lost their children, their loved
ones who are serving this country and specifically in Afghanistan
and at the Abbey Gate where we remember the horrific
(02:29):
mess of a withdrawal under Biden led to a mass
casualty event for US service members who were there. And
you have these gold star families, Clay coming out and
saying that not only did we want Trump to be there,
but Kamala and Biden are mia on this issue. It's
politically a problem for them. They don't want to spend
(02:51):
any time thinking about or talking about the disastrous withdrawal,
the loss of US service members, the hasty droning of
an Afghan family that was just driving around in Kable
at the time, that was all on Biden's watch, a
number of children killed in that strike. No, instead they're
attacking Trump for showing up with the families while Biden,
(03:11):
of course is at the beach and Kamala's doing whatever Kamala.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Was doing well.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
They also invited Kamala to come and honor their lost
family members, and she just ignored them. And what kind
of stands out to me here is not only that
it's an unforced error because of all the things that
you could be focused on, I'm not sure exactly what
(03:37):
I would be attacking Trump on, But is there anybody
out there in the Democrat base who is going to
support Kamala because they think that she's stronger on military
defense and veterans' issues than Trump. Sometimes the battles that
you fight tell us where you think there are voters
(03:58):
to be gained. What am I missing here? Because I
think your point is a good one. Buck, the more
likely you are to have risked your life in general
defending this country, the more likely you are to support
Trump over Kamala. Now, there are some people out there
who are military veterans who put their lives on the line,
(04:19):
that are traditional Democrat voters. But maybe let's say, what
do you think sixty five thirty five at best for Kamala.
She's minus thirty on people who put their lives on
the line to serve this country and who they're voting for.
So when I see a situation like this, it not
only to me feels like a really miscalculation based on
(04:41):
hearing these gold star families respond, but also who's watching
Morning Joe who is a persuadable former combat veteran that
is unclear or unsure who they're going to be supporting.
To me, this kind of is just evidence of the
Kamala campaign losing its footing and just kind of of
(05:03):
all the things to be going after Trump on this
is a mess, right. I can't even see the calculus
behind which they would get engaged in this battle. It
doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, you had including the gold Star father Mark Schmitz,
for example, father of Lance Corporal Jared Schmidtz, said that
they didn't invite Trump to the cemetery to quote help
his campaign. We wanted a leader, schmidt said, how do
you sleep at night knowing it was you, this administration,
You and Biden, you being the last one in the room,
(05:36):
are responsible for the death of our thirteen kids, said
Jim McCollum, gold star, father of Lance Corporal Riley McCollum.
And these are in some of these These are quotes
from the videos that these gold Star parents put out
on this issue. And I think that the Kamala campaign
really opened the door to all this, right, I mean,
(05:58):
Trump is there at the record rest of these families,
and they put out some cheap shot and now they're
saying there was like a tussle or something between a
member of the of the Arlington staff, you know, like
what do we understand?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
My point?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like it's just such an unforced air if I were
Kamala and I have been involved in any way in
the death of these thirteen people. And Joe Biden had
been looking at his watch when they returned. This is
really really bad ground for them to be fighting on.
And then they're also in a difficult spot, and I
just who are they trying to persuade here?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, well, I think that for Kamala voters, it's just
the reflexive approach from the campaign. It is just attack.
I mean, it's Trump, you got to attack him. And
maybe in this case that will backfire on them a
little bit. But you know, there's also a lot of
people who really look Clay. I mean, I was watching
Morning Joe this morning. They're talking about ho, Kamala is
doing a great job on the campaign trail. I'm sitting here,
(06:57):
I'm like, she won't do interviews. When she interview, she's horrible.
She needs her vice president there like a like a
you know, like a white safety blanket or something, you know,
like a like a And they're saying she's doing a
good job and people will believe anything, right, I mean,
this is what this is really where things are.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, remember they said that Biden was mentally astute,
up till about a week before they forced him out,
so that, yes, Kamala.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Was the biggest liar of all on this issue.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Kamala Harris is a joke in public life. She should
be laughed out of of you know, the contention for
any office. She was the prime person in. Joe Biden
is fine, he's a dude, He's great. And then when
the polls turned, she was jose to all, he's got dementia.
Shove him out the door. And then the whole thing
(07:46):
that they're asking the American people to just swallow so
much nonsense.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's absurd.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Have you thought the about this? What does Kamala Harris
do if you are right and she loses as president
in this race? Right, she loses in the presidential race.
Usually you want to I'll tell you what her job is.
What do you think she does. I'm probably head of
like the U cal system or something. They'll give her
(08:14):
some Democrat sweet spot, you know, million dollar a year.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
She'll get it. She'll get a big book deal. Because remember,
even if you're not useful to the apparatus. In the
same way, it's like a mob boss that has his
family paid off while he's in prison. Like the left
takes care of their people no matter what because they
need the system to keep going the way that it is,
So you don't see that way. I think she'll get
the president of a universe.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Get it.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
She may get a job it pays her. But I
think they're gonna bury her like they buried Michael Ducacus.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh politically yeah, but I'm saying, I mean, your.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Career is over, and they'll just kind of like put
her off the pasture. She's not that old for a politician, right,
This in many ways is ideal for them because it
ends her career, Whereas if Biden had run and lost,
she would have been like the TOS contender to be
the nominee.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This just like her career is over. I've said this
all along. This is this is why they panicked and
they made a bad but this whole shove Biden away thing,
you know, you notice that they're you know, what they're
really trying to do and when it when it counts. Now,
there's a lot of focus on unions. Why are Democrats
so obsessed? What I love too is Morning Joe. I Mean,
(09:23):
the guy's dressed like he's he's coming off of like
the cricket or the polo field, and he's like, you
know what I really care about union's union labor and
union work. Joe Scarborough doesn't even have anybody on his
phone who actually works in a union union bosses because
they come on and you nonsense, Sure they're guests, but
like an actual I mean, do you think, Joe, when
(09:45):
was the last time Joe Scarborough had lunch with a
plumber or an electrician. I can tell you the answer
is never. And they just play this whole game about oh,
the blue collar But but why because your point about
sort of sec football fans, the people who are going
to determine the election Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. All the data
(10:08):
points in this direction. It's going to be white guys
who work with their hands, or drive or do something,
white guy blue collar workers. And so this is why,
all of a sudden it's all about the unions for
the Kamala Harris and Walls campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This is why also, I think the panic's starting to
set in, because I really do think and you'll know,
the panic won't set in until they've lost, right, and
then they'll just throw Kamala Harris to the side. The
Joe Scarboroughs of the world will come on and they'll say, look,
this was a function of just a rapid campaign. Kamala
(10:48):
wasn't that great of a candidate. She didn't have appeal
in the Midwest. They're going to tell you all the
things that we're telling you right now again, get out
and vote. But I think there's starting to be a
panic setting in with who the voters are, who are
going to decide to election. You know, you know how
they they always had this and political cliches. We try
to avoid them, but sometimes cliches are that way for
a reason, right because everyone knows that that's true.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
There's the there's the beer test, and people say this
about George W. Bush a lot, like he's a guy
you'd want to have a beer with. Having briefed them
a couple of times in the Oval office, I don't know.
I mean, he's not that fun, but that was kind
of serious subject. Also, he didn't drink anymore, so it
didn't apply for him. And there's all like Biden and
Trump didn't drink, like there's been a lot of non
drinkers lately. So but but I think there's a a
(11:29):
Trump era version of that test, and I think it
will actually possibly determine the election. I think it probably
will determine the election. And you could call it the
construction work the construction workers at lunch test, okay, because
it's construction workers. And by that I mean the electricians,
the draw you know, the the the teamsters, the pipe fitters,
the steel workers, the you know that, the you know,
(11:52):
the general contractors. But construction workers I'll use as the
catch all for that clay. If they're sitting down at
lunch and they're you know, they're having the sandwich, they're
having the drick, whatever they're taking the moment. Do they
want to have Donald Trump? I know he's a billionaire. No,
they want Donald Trump's thinking they are Kamala Harris. I
really think that the construction worker test. Construction workers like Trump,
(12:14):
and you know what, Trump likes construction workers. And Kamala
Harris looks down on them. And they know that she
is the daughter of two PhDs. She's never had a
hard job in her life. They know that.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And that's why Biden worked because they were able to
convince people. Rus Grant and Joe was a real thing.
And you and I might know you and I and
everybody out there might know now that that's BS. How
are you going to sell Kamala? And I think they're
starting to recognize now. Their answer might be, well, we're
(12:48):
going to drive up and I think this is probably
what their logic would be, Well, Kamala is going to
drive up black turnout in Detroit and Philadelphia and Pittsburgh
and Milwaukee. Here's the problem. I don't think most black people.
We played a couple of clips from MSNBC they had
a multi racial panel last week. Buck, I don't think
most black people are looking around, particularly not black dudes,
being like, Hey, you know whose experience is like mine?
(13:10):
You know who I really connect with? That half Indian,
half Jamaican chick whose mom and dad were both PhDs,
who grew up in Canada, Like, she hasn't anything like
the average person in Atlanta or Milwaukee or Philadelphia who
has had a black experience in America.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
The Democrats were right about this. In twenty twenty, Joe
Biden was the wingman to a successful two term black president,
and the black community liked and responded to that role
of you know that piece of.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
The threatened old white people because he's an old white
guy but I'm just saying within the black community, Biden
actually had a lot of and we know, you know,
Clive Burne and South Carolina turned around for Biden. Biden
did well. Biden's vote, Biden's numbers in twenty twenty with
the black we're strong, very strong. I think he's going
to do better with the black And I know this
(14:04):
goes to our bet.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I think Biden does better with the black community than
Kamala does when you see the numbers come in, I
really do believe that, and I think it's in part
because of that narrative.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we'll see, well, yeah, by black community mean men
and women voting. I think when we look at both
of their both of the talies, I think it's likely
to go in that direction. We'll see.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're about
to be joined by Sean Parnell, who spoke fabulously well
recently at the Big Rally, one of many Big rallies
that Trump has had in Pennsylvania. There's also a combat veteran.
We're going to get his take on all of this.
I think misguided attack from Kamala Harris on Donald Trump.
But you don't have to take my word from it
(16:29):
for it. You can hear from the gold Star families themselves,
who released their own comments on this story. Listen to
cut thirty one.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Stephenna Cooley.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I'm the father of Lance Corporal Kareem M.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nicoohy, and your administration killed my son, spent.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Three years as my Casilla's cool in action, and myself,
my family and other goos Star families have not seen
any support from you or your administration.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Your recent remarks related to Trump's visit to Arlington or
filled with nothing but lies in the seat.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
President Trump and his team are respectful.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They listened to our stories.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
And didn't talk much at all. We welcomed them that
day and they were comfort to our family.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Why did we want Trump there? There wasn't to help
this political campaign.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
We wanted a leader that explains why you and Joe
didn't get a call.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
We invited President Trump.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Let me be clear, there was no politics discussed, none whatsoever.
There was also not an assault that we observed take
place or did we hear it. I don't know where
this is coming from, but it's disgusting and gross.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Gold Star family is rallying to Trump's ode on this
because he was their invited guest Clay.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
They wanted him there, and it, to me is just
the latest example of Kamala Harris unforced errors. Her campaign
isn't ready for prime time. They are made a mess
of this. We'll talk about it with Sean Parnell next
Labor Day.
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Clay and Buck Network. Go subscribe to the Clay Travison
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man Sean Parnell also a best selling author and a
combat veteran of Afghanistan. Sean, let's start with that. We
want to talk to you Pennsylvania politics too, obviously. You know,
as a bored and raised Pennsylvanian and a guy who
(19:28):
still lives out west there, you know the politics there
very well. We'll get to that in a moment. First, though,
Kamala Harris's team attacking Trump for going with gold Star
families to Arlington at their request. What do you make
of this?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Oh, it's a terrible, terrible thing that she did, and
a huge mistake. And I heard Clay talking in the
lead in about it being just indicative of her campaign
not being ready for prime time. But I also think
it speaks to the fact that you know, this isn't
your grandfather's Democrat Party. The modern day Democrat Party seems
wholly untethered from what it means to serve. And I
(20:06):
have to tell you, as someone who served in combat,
who lost soldiers, who's written letters home to families of
the fallen, and then was lucky to make it back
from combat after four hundred and eighty five days, was
wounded a couple times in Afghanistan. It was my job
as I was the rear detachment commander and primarily my
responsibilities Clay and Buck were to notify families of the
(20:30):
fallen and be casualty assistants. So I have to tell
you it is absolutely stunning to me that Kamala Harris,
who's running to be this country's commander in chief, has
not spoken to these thirteen families of the fall these
thirteen goal star families. It is simply incomprehensible to me,
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ultimately a dereliction of duty because the title commander predisposed
as chief, her first responsibility in the job title is
to these families, and she's wholly ignored them, but not
just ignored them. Now she's taking it a step farther
and is attacking someone who's not commander in chief for
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showing up to support them.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Absolutely unbelievable to me.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's what stood out to me, Sean, was it felt
like incompetence to try and make this an issue after
the way we withdrew from Afghanistan. If I were advising
Kamala Harris on her campaign, I would have said, Okay,
let's just pretend this never happened, right, I'm talking about
if I were trying to advise her and let's go
(21:38):
talk about abortion more, I mean honestly, and so to
decide that, you're like, who is the person that is
going to be persuaded, and was like, you know, I
wasn't really sure whether I was a Kamala or a
Trump person. And then Kamala made the way that the
gold Star families were treated at Arlington across the river
from where I'm sitting in Washington, DC right now, and
(21:59):
now I'm on Kamala's team. If anything, all it does
is strengthen Trump, and it's an issue for him that
is very strong. It feels very incompetent to me.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And again he's he's these thirteen soldiers were killed because
of Biden and Harris's incompetence. You know, they were the
number one, number two. Kamala braggs about being the last
person in the room when that decision was made and
Trump was Trump shows up And just to be clear,
(22:32):
having gone to these and presented American flags the families
of the fallen, I'll tell you quite personally, it is
very it's a very very difficult thing to attend. You know,
in many ways as a leaders, you're scared to go.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You know, it's.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Emotionally draining, right, So I mean to some lighthearted thing.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yes, and the fact that Trump shows up just it's leading.
He's leading by example on every single front, and he
he's showing up when he knows it's going to be
emotionally taxing and difficult, but it's also the right thing
to do in.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
His first and foremost job as commander in chief.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Speaking of Sean Parnell, comment veteran hosts of the Battleground
Live podcast on the Clay and Buck Network, Sean, let's
talk Pennsylvania for a moment here. Kamala has just been there.
Clay had a statistician on last week It was saying
that basically, so go with Pennsylvania, So go with the race.
(23:30):
What can you tell us from a ground up view
of how things are looking there? Not only just for
the presidential contest, which is obviously top of mine, but
got a very important Senate race going on between Dave
McCormick and Bob was Bob Casey right, I got to
remember all these games? What can you tell us about
(23:51):
about the state of play?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh, listen, I'm telling you Pennsylvania, And I want to
be clear for people who are listening, it has never
been more favorable for Republicans. I mean, look at the
difference between twenty sixteen, where Democrats had a nine hundred
and sixteen thousand person voter registration advantage, nine hundred and
sixteen thousand more registered Dems than Republicans, and today that's
(24:14):
only three hundred and fifty thousand. And here's what's really important.
As of today, the Democrats are short like fifteen percent
in their vote by mail totals comparing with twenty twenty.
They have banked one hundred and thirty two thousand votes
less than they did in twenty twenty at this same time,
and Democrats strategists dismiss it away and they say, oh,
(24:35):
but COVID, But that's not the whole story, because Democrats
absolutely positively need that floor in twenty twenty of those
mail in ballots in order for whin they barely won
with the floor as it was.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
In twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
And there are one hundred and thirty two thousand votes
down as of today, and the clock is ticking. And
the reality is with vote by mail is that you
just need time to try find out and get those
ballots in, and they're running out of time, whereas Republicans
are banking mail in votes at a rate that's not
(25:10):
been seen before, going back to the inception of mail
in voting in Pennsylvania, which was in October of twenty nineteen.
And so Trump is performing not only better like with
mail in votes than ever before, but he's also doing
extraordinarily well with pro life, pro gun democrats, working class
union democrats. They're going to help get them across the
goal line. And I think that the Trump McCormick ticket
(25:32):
you asked about Dave McCormick and Bob Casey, there are
so many synergies between the Trump Toomey ticket in sixteen
and the Trump McCormick ticket they both won. They're vastly
different and almost every all they're very, very different. And
McCormick and Trump are on the same page, your campaigning together,
but they they have a lot of synergy at the
(25:54):
top of the ticket, where Trump appeals to that working class,
you know, middle class union democrat, McCormick perhaps appeals more to,
you know, suburban voters. The two of them at the
top of the ticket, it's very formidable. I think Republicans
have a better shot at taking Pennsylvania during this election
cycle than any other election cycle.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
During the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay, Sean for people out there who are listening to
us in Pennsylvania and also for those who are just
paying attention on the national level, when does voting start?
Because I think it's like in ten or fifteen days.
In Pennsylvania, it's a fifty day election. Well, I want
how many days?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Twelve? What? It's crazy? All right?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So you and then the second part of this is
we want and I think this is important. We talked
about it earlier. We want you to go vote because
of something you just said on the back end there.
I didn't realize this. This is something I had to
learn after twenty twenty two. When you get voted, when
you're a Republican out there and your vote is taken,
they can take you off the list and they don't
(26:54):
need to spend get out the vote resources on you anymore.
They are allowed then to votocus on other people. So
if you are a diehard Trump person or a McCormick
person listening to us right now, you should go vote
as early as you possibly can so that all the
resources can go to people who need to be motivated
and or assisted to get out the vote. But I
(27:15):
want you to lay that out for people in particular
to understand that in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, I mean, just imagine all sixty seven counties in
Pennsylvania and every voter on an Excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Once we get a vote banked.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
In other words, you vote by mail, we bank your vote,
we check your name off the list, and you know,
we just take all the money that we have and
we focus it on people who haven't banked their vote.
So this has a cascading effect, and the more people
that bank their vote, the more surgical we can use
our resources to direct people low propensity voters on election
day to get out. And if you're uncomfortable with mail
(27:49):
and voting, I get it, but we have to adapt
our strategy and fight with the political rules on the
battlefield as they are today. We can only change this
these elections if we win. Okay, and so Republicans they
banking their vote is absolutely critical, And if you're uncomfortable
with it, you can still show up on election day
and cast a provisional ballot.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So you vote by mail, bank your vote.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You can still show up an election day to cast
a provisional ballot if you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's totally fine.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
But we've got to fight like the Democrats do in
order to win, and we're doing that this cycle. So
you know, get in the fight with us, get in
the trenches with us. You know, bank your vote if
we win this state, the Keystone state's the key to everything.
We win the state of Pennsylvania, it's a heck of
a lot more likely, uh that that Republicans also win
Wisconsin and Michigan as well, and that Pennsylvania is the key.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So we've we've got to laser in and focus on it.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, what are you seeing, Sean in terms of
the uh, the ad spend on television? I know this
is like a very basic meat and potatoes kind of
a thing. But are they just inundating the airwaves with
with lies about Trump? Or is it is the is
the Trump paying the RNC? Are they fighting fire with fire?
I'm just wondering about, you know, how the how the
(29:05):
media battles going.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Pennsylvania is tough for a lot of reasons because it's
ideologically diverse, but there are also five media markets. You
have Erie, you have Pittsburgh, you have Harrisburg, you you
have Philadelphia, you have Scranton. So it's very, very expensive.
But the airwaves right now are completely inundated with political ads.
But the remarkable thing is that, all told, the total
(29:30):
sum of Democrat and Republicans spending in Pennsylvania is pretty
darn near even. And that is an unbelievable thing because
the Democrats almost always, always, always outspend Republicans by three
to one margin. And so the fact that the spending
in Pennsylvania shows you, it shows you that one, Pennsylvania
is everything.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Without Pennsylvania, I don't see how Kamala has a path
at all. But two, Like the ad spending is just
outrageously expensive here, and so it's going to be an
unbelievable thing to see sprint to the finish here in
this state, to be sure, but it's a very very
important state, and I think everybody knows it.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Sean Pornell, you now have a new quarterback for your
Pittsburgh Steelers. Good luck with Russell Wilson. I want to
mention this, what do you think of Russell Wilson. By
the way, I've seen him play like three downs.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
He hardly played it all on three says, And this
is why I hedged on the original question.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
But look, we will see. I'm optimistic.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
But what I do know is that my fantasy football league,
the Maga Warrior Fantasy Football League, and my team, the Impeachables,
we are tracking for a number one. We are going
to be number one this year. But I can speak
to that with absolute certainty.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I wanted to mention this because Pennsylvania is going to
matter so much. I am going to be and you
may well be there too, Sean, because I know you
spoke and did so fabulously well at one of the
most recent Trump rallies. I'm going to be with Senate
candidate Dave McCormick on November the second, which is the
final Saturday before election Day, surrounding the Ohio State penn
(31:08):
State game. That game is being played that Saturday. I'm
going to be up in the state of Pennsylvania doing
my best to help mobilize people. So that's on the
calendar now for November second, and hopefully by that point
the Pittsburgh Steelers have finally found a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hopefully, and let's get pitt in the top twenty five.
You know I'm at penn State, Yeah, of course, but
I'm a pit fan through and through can we please
crack the top twenty five and stay there this year.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I didn't even know Pittstall had a football team. All right,
that's fun. You are doing the Lord's work. Keep us updated.
We're going to have you on a lot, and we
want people to make sure if they enjoy this, and
I know they do. Your podcast getting downloaded like crazy
as part of the Clay and Buck podcast Network. Congrats
on all the success there.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, thank you so much Clay Buck and everybody else
at you know, Premiere and iHeart for the opportunity. It's
just a blessing to be a small part of the network,
So thank you both.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Go listen to Battleground Live everybody. Sean Parnell on the
Clayan Buck Network. Check out the iHeart app wherever you
listen to your podcast. Shawn, thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Thanks guys.
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and I walked past the White House last night after
I got here, and sixty three days, sixty three days
to election day, you just heard from Sean Parnell. We're
gonna count it down with all of you. The official
race is underway now. Next week a week from today
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is maybe the only debate we're gonna get between Trump
and Kamala. But you just heard from Sean Parnell. I
would put the challenge out there to all of you
vote early, Vote early. I'm going to do it on
the very first day that I can vote early. Buck,
you just said you're gonna vote early. Let's get those
votes banked. Now I have I have.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Some two ombs budsman, Clay and Buck ombudsman. We should
start doing this. The other show one is that we
were both right. That's nice, isn't it about John Kerry?
He both Paris sales and wins Paris is kite sea
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he spends money made by other men. Okay, And then
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Pennsylvania polls after Buck's cheap shot at pitt football. Okay,
sometimes I understand when people get us confused and hold
me to account. I understand, right, we're two guys rough
(35:57):
with the same age. If someone is football jokes, it
is Clay, it is not Buck.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Can we just be clear Clay is the one who
likes the football jokes. I didn't even know what Pitt was.
Is it the Pittsburgh College, Pittsburgh Panthers? Yes, the pitt Panthers.
By the way, I like this email for Mike. I
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By the way, Clay, my wife and my sister think
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I mean, hey, we need more VIPs.
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Although when I read that, I thought, for a minute, wait,
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