May 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of foreign policy analysis, economic insight, and sharp political commentary, with a strong focus on President Donald Trump’s ongoing Middle East tour and the unraveling of the Biden administration’s credibility.
The hour begins with coverage of Trump’s speech to U.S. troops stationed in Qatar, where he emphasized military strength, patriotism, and announced substantial pay raises for service members. Clay and Buck highlight the Trump administration’s success in revitalizing military recruitment and shifting the Pentagon’s focus back to national defense rather than progressive social agendas.
The hosts then pivot to Trump’s diplomatic breakthroughs in the Middle East, including potential normalization with Syria and ongoing negotiations with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, and even Iran. They underscore how Trump’s foreign policy is isolating Iran while strengthening U.S. alliances—moves that even some Democrats are quietly praising.
On the economic front, Clay and Buck analyze new data showing falling gas prices, stable inflation, and strong retail sales, debunking fears that Trump’s tariffs would trigger a recession. They argue that the mainstream media’s silence on positive economic indicators—especially the dramatic drop in gas prices—reveals a clear bias. The hosts emphasize how lower energy costs are weakening adversaries like Russia and Iran while benefiting everyday Americans.
The conversation then shifts to a broader discussion of American prosperity, with Buck explaining how the U.S. economy remains the most powerful wealth-generation engine in history. They contrast Trump’s pro-growth, pro-business policies with the Democrats’ obsession with regulation, wealth redistribution, and status-driven politics. Clay adds that even the poorest Americans enjoy a higher standard of living than most people globally, citing data that Mississippi is wealthier per capita than the UK.
In a powerful segment, the hosts revisit the Biden dementia cover-up, mocking National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan—whom Biden reportedly called “Steve” a couple times—as emblematic of the administration’s dishonesty. They call out Jill Biden for enabling her husband’s decline and argue that Democrats knowingly chose a cognitively impaired president over Kamala Harris, whom they deemed even less viable.
The hour wraps with listener call-ins and reactions, including skepticism about whether Republicans will hold hearings on the Biden cover-up. Clay and Buck also criticize Democrats for introducing a new reparations bill, calling it a divisive distraction rooted in resentment politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour of play, and bucket's going right now.
Thank you for being here with us. As you know,
President Trump's on a huge trip through the Middle East.
A lot going on there. Offered a pathway to normalcy
with Syria after a long and horrific civil war in
that country and US military operations there against Kadis, all
(00:22):
that stuff now, perhaps no guarantees there could be a
better future for that country. He's got deal making happening
with the Saudi's, deal making happening with the UAE, with
Cutter and perhaps with Iran as well. That remains to
be seen. Those details remain to be seen. But there's
(00:45):
also Trump speaking to the troops in Cutters. You know,
we have a very large military base there, and he
decided that he was going to address them directly. I
wanted to let you hear from some of this. We'll
talk about how the military and recruitment and all that
is going under the Trump administration as well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But this has cut eight.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Trump saying some words to the troops.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The real strength of our military doesn't come from it's
fighter jets. It really comes from our people. That's you,
comes from our people. Your unbelievable people. The aptitude and
all of the things you have to do to do
what you do. You know, I look at some of
those engines, and I'm a pretty smart cookie.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I would tell you I'm really supplied.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And I look at you, and you take those engines
apart and put them back together, blindfolded, then fix them up.
It's amazing what you're able to do, and then to
fly them just incredible. You're incredible. You're a very special
group of people. And that's why in my twenty twenty
six budget includes across the board, maybe you don't want
to look for the good of the country, you don't
(01:49):
have to take it. Pay raises for each and every
one of you, substantial pay.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Raisers, pay raise for the military clay. You know, recruitment
already up substantially under the Trump administration and Secretary of
Defense Hegseets Tenure. Turns out that the people that you
want fighting your wars or preparing rather the defense of
your nation in the event of war, want actually the
(02:15):
business of the Pentagon to be war fighting and the
focus of it to be on war fighting and not
a big social justice experiment and a bureaucracy where people
just show up and it's not really clear what anybody's doing.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No doubt, and I think again Trump's tour of the
Middle East, it has a incredible impact already in terms
of what Iran is reportedly willing to do. And also
this comes on the heels Buck, We've got more data
from April in the economy, and I'm looking at this
(02:51):
article from Axios Hard Data. This is the headline, Hard
data suggest tear off driven inflation and respect recession fears
may be overblown. You mentioned earlier the S and P
five hundred back near six thousand, now over fifty nine hundred,
and it says a new data out Thursday showed steady
(03:15):
retail sales and a surprising drop in wholesale prices in April,
such that there is no evidence that the tariffs are
leading to massive increases in cost of goods. In fact,
the Producer price indexed showed that prices actually fell in April,
(03:40):
and the cost of goods overall is flat in many ways.
And I mentioned Buck, the price of gas, which no
one is talking. Isn't it kind of crazy that all
of the headlines we saw about what eggs cost and
I don't know what percentage of you buy eggs weekly.
Maybe all I I don't know, but I know most
(04:02):
of you buy gas weekly, and I know most of you.
When you gauge what things cost, you don't look necessarily
at one product.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
When you go to the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
You buy whatever your usual groceries are, and then the
price comes up and you're like, boy, that's been a
lot more than I expected.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Gas is really easy.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Remember when people started putting that I did that picture
of Joe Biden next to the gas gauges, little stickers
you would see all over the place. I saw them
all over my neighborhood. Gas prices are down fifty percent
since Joe Biden was in office. They're approaching the lows
that were set when Trump was in office. And you
just played that clip from the Middle East. Well, you
(04:46):
know what happens when you have good relations with people
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They put more oil and gas they.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Actually want instead of they have a cartel they can control,
basically to a large extent, what the price of gas is.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Opek opex pretty.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Powerful and right now they're like, hey, we're well, you know,
we have a good relationship with the United States. We're
fine with producing a lot of oil and gas. It
also is cutting the economic engine out of Russia when
prices for oil and gas in Iran, which they sell
on the black market to a large extent, when overall
(05:26):
prices are low, the fact that you can get cheaper
oil and gas from Russia and Iran because they're having
to sell them on the black market means that the
money that is pouring into those countries is declining. It
should be a massive story what price we're getting for
gallons of gas?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right now? Almost no one's writing or talking about it.
And if you really.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Are concerned about the war in Ukraine, do you know
one of the best things we could do to cut
economic engine in the economic power of Russia away? Lower
gas price? Do you know the best thing we could
do to delegitimize the powers of the Ayatola in Iran?
Lower gas prices. It's a huge friggin story.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Google it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Hardly anybody's talking about it. But the price of eggs,
Oh my goodness, we got to know every We gotta
know how much your scrambled eggs cost. It's really goes
to what stories are focused on. And I'm telling you,
yesterday when I saw two sixty five gallon of gas
in South Nashville. I bought over the weekend. I think
(06:31):
it was two eighty seven. Prices keep coming down, Buck.
This is where most people, normal people, judge the economy
based on what they have to pay to fill their
gas tank up.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's just the reality.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
There's something else that I think Trump instinctively knows and
has known his whole life and has lived his whole life,
which is that the American economy is the single greatest
wealth generation machine ever devised in the history of existence. Okay,
(07:03):
nothing has ever been anywhere near what America has been
for let's say, certainly the last one hundred and you
know something years. Okay, America has been an incredible wealth
generation machine. If it is allowed to continue to do
what it does, it will also continue to make all
(07:24):
of us wealthier. And I mean that, every single one
of us as a people. It means, you know, this
is when you start to look at what was the
access to If you look at somebody in the nineteen
fifties who was really rich, and look at somebody today, Okay,
I mean your access to much better healthcare, much better food,
much better entertainment, much more comfortable everything. I mean, we
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are all wealthier. Actually, this is what people get very
much into. And Naval Ravakan, who's a thinker that I
sometimes cite on the show, does a very good job
of explaining this. We get into status a lot of
the time. Wealth and status are not the same thing, right.
You can talk about everybody getting wealthier in a country,
and there may be people who still say no, no, no,
(08:07):
and it's because they don't think that they have more.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Than the people.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They want to have more then, but that's not the
same thing I think Trump understands. So that's the status
versus wealth paradigm. We all have actually gotten wealthier as
a nation. I'm talking about now over one hundred year. Yeah,
recently there's been some or you know there there have
been years. You look at two thousand and eight. Things
have turned a bit. But as long as we don't
mess up this amazing thing called the American economy too badly,
(08:36):
it's going to continue to do what it does, which
is create a wealthier and a more prosperous America all
the time. Democrats are always so focused clay on hyper
regulating it and dividing the spoils within it and finding
ways to carve up the pie. They don't even stop
to think this pie is getting bigger every year. Yes,
(08:58):
let's how do we make this How do we keep
this pie growing and getting bigger all the time? With
again the Democrat mindset, because it's about equality in their minds,
it's about status and if I don't, if I feel
like there are too many people who have This is
why Bernie Sanders goes around. Billionaires have no impact on
ninety nine point nine percent of Americans day to day lives. Okay,
(09:21):
it doesn't matter that there are a thousand billionaires or
something like that in this country, but it's a fun
way to divert people from Hey, what are you actually
paying in taxes in your state? How good is your
healthcare that you're being forced to buy because of regulations?
What's actually happening with inflation chipping away at your savings?
Like those are real things that affect you.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Your analogy on the pie is actually the way that
I see the country. I didn't like living on the
East Coast because it felt to me like everybody was like,
there's only twelve slices. We're gonna have to fight you
to see who can get the most slices, Like the
East Coast, I would argue, of all the parts of
the United States is the most focused and status conscious.
(10:06):
You getting something means somebody else will loses something. Best
case scenario West Coast used to be before they destroyed it. Hey,
let's build a brand new pie. That's way bigger, right,
like the brand new technology.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It's not old school.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Europe is the worst with you with your pie analogy.
South is like, hey, do you want to share? You know,
It's like people are just really friendly. They're not necessarily
as as status obsessed, but what you hit on is
so important because we all live. This is a great
stat and I think it's still true. The poorest twenty
(10:40):
percent of Americans would be the richest people in almost
every country in the world. And one of my favorite stats.
I think you may have shared it for the first time.
England is poorer than Mississippi. Yep, per capita. Yeah, and
that's a holy crab moment if you've been to London.
I'm not saying there's not a lot of rich people,
but for a long time people dump on Mississippi. It's
(11:02):
great state, by the way, a lot of great people,
but they would say, oh, it's and I think it's
still Mississippi as the poorest average per capita in the
United States. It's richer than Great Britain, and that speaks
to the wealth overall of the United States, that even
our poorest state is wealthier than a huge European country
(11:25):
on average.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, well, this is also why you know, we have
and this is maybe transitions a little bit of the
RFK discussion. We have become a society where the challenges
of and the diseases of abundance are far more of
a problem than to diseases of scarcity. Whether it's eating
(11:45):
way too much and obesity and the health challenges from that,
that's obviously an overabundance issue.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know, we're talking about the grocery store thing yesterday,
and maybe this just makes me sound like I don't
know how many of her watched Perfect Strangers, but I
sound like Belkie Bartakamus, who is the uh. I think
it's supposed to be like a Greek immigrant or something,
and he says like, oh, what the you know, amazing country,
But I walk into the grocery stores around here, Clay,
It's just like a vast reservoir of food. It's unbelievable
(12:12):
how much produce and food Americans have access to. And
we don't even think twice. And I've been you know,
you've been in places too. I mean, you go to
the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Caribbean's poor. A lot of parts in the Caribbean are poor.
I live there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
There are some, Yes, that's what I mean. But I'm saying,
you know, it's truly poor, right, I mean, you know,
Haiti's one of the poorest countries on the planet. You
go around here, you just take all of this stuff,
all this stuff for granted a lot of the time.
And I just think that with Trump, which you have,
is somebody whose focus is letting the greatest wealth generation
machine in human history, which there is no argument that
(12:47):
America is that thing, letting it just do its thing,
like ride this, ride this show horse all the way
to the finish line. With Democrats, they sit around and
they have committees about like, well, what about the other horses,
Like how are.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They going to feel?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Like what about the DA No, Let's let the American
economy and it's a little bit of a Calvin Cooliest thing.
Let the business of the American people be business. And
I just think that you're seeing the early stages of that,
and it doesn't have we don't have to have the
sclerotic bureaucracy that is choking off so much wealth generation, creativity.
(13:26):
And when you start to think about this country versus
other countries, I mean, you just look at GDP per
capital wealth Clay. You know, China we think of as
our nearest competitor. I think Chinese GDP per capita is
like a third of ours. I'm going off the top
of my head here, but I mean it's a fraction
of what. Not only that, what they find is it's
very hard to take the proverbial next step to actually
(13:47):
challenge us, because this goes back to historically Japan was
going to pass us if you looked at all the
projections China's peaked, I think China's already begun to decline.
And that's what can make them a little bit scary
right now because sometimes, as we know historically, it's not
when you peak that your power is at most. It's
when you start to lose power that sometimes you overreach,
which could happen with Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Things like I just.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Think everyone should always be very cautious about listening to
the catastrophists and the the high priests of resentment because
that again, that gets you back into that status.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This is what Marxists do. This is how communism gets going.
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's as long as they they they're making the right
people miserable, they can make you miserable too. It's kind
of the way that you know, or overregulated, over controlled
the economy's function. And Trump takes the approach of how
do we do what is going to be best for
(14:46):
the most every you know, one hundred times out of
one hundred. The way to do this is to try
to actually grow the American economy and we will all
get richer. And there are a lot of ways we
can even look at this ourselves. But I just think
the catastrophism stuff is it's so yeah, we have to
watch the debt. That's when we can't. We can't just
let this machine get destroyed. But it actually works, That's
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Speaker 4 (16:33):
Some good news for President Trump, in addition to many
other things going on well for him right now, he
now has an eleventh grandchild. His daughter Tiffany has just
given birth and announced that they have had a baby
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(16:54):
which is pretty fantastic. I would imagine for those of
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we come back. Jake Sullivan, who according to a new book,
was called Steve multiple times in a public room where
everybody could see, despite the fact that he's known Biden
for decades, said he had no idea and told the
(17:16):
debate that Biden was not doing well mentally. I just
think we need to hold these people accountable and be
playing all of the things they said, which are clear lies,
and so we'll hit some of this for you when
we come back again.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
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to be remembered here to understand the full scope of
the deception here, Clay, this is lying about something that's
really important. Yes, it's really important whether or not the
most powerful person on the planet has a brain that
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, so we're.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Getting more and more. Look, some of this is just
to have fun with it, because we had to sit
here and deal with all of the lies, all of
the nonsense from these Democrats for a long time, and
they were all so smug at their overpaid perchase at
CNN and MSNBC and New York Times in these places,
(19:12):
they're all, oh, Biden's fine, he's sharp as attack, and
we're just finding out more and more they I mean,
they all knew and and there must have been some
part of them, Clay. As as much as they lack integrity,
there's a level of humiliation that goes with this too.
I mean to say that this guy was not, you know,
Captain mushy Brain is just it's it's it's degrading. It's degrading,
(19:36):
I don't know, so degrading.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Reports today that Jake Sullivan, Jake Sullivan's best callbuck probably
was whin like two days before October seventh, he said
to Middle East had never been quieter and safer, and
then oh yeah, Hamas attacks unbelievable timing but he was
asked by Politico. Hey, uh, and before I play this,
(20:01):
there are reports today that Biden multiple times referred to
him as Steve. They've known each other for and I'm
gonna talk about how funny this is in a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
They have known each other for decades.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Jake Sullivan, I'm not saying that you should do yes,
you should do this every time. I don't know how
often Jake Sullivan tweets every I'm asking all of you,
every time that he tweets, for the rest of his career,
just respond thanks Steve. Like I want this to be
the number one every time Jake Sullivan tweets for the
(20:34):
rest of his life. I want one of you to respond,
at least one of you, thanks Steve. And if you're
not saying thanks Steve, I want you to, like the
first person who was there, to stay Thanks Steve. I
want every one of his tweets to be outvoted by
thanks Steve. But he was asked because he's a liar,
and he's a shameless liar, And he was asked by Politico,
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when did you first realize that Joe Biden might not
be mentally sharp? And this was his answer, just a
few months ago.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
What happened in that debate was a shock to me.
I think was a shock to everybody. And I've made
that point before.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just finally, do you think in retrospect, given everything that's
happened and everything we've talked about today, it was a
mistake for President Biden to try some one again.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
One of the things about being National Security advisor is
that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political decision making.
I was insulated from it to the point where while
I was National Security Advisor, my spouse was running for Congress,
and I had strict rules about what I could even
do to support my spouse, let alone be involved in
political decision making, political calls in the White House. So
(21:40):
I have not weighed in on those issues and would
not weigh in on those issues.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Okay, so Buck, there are reports that he was in
the Oval office and Biden called him Steve.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
They have known each other for decades. Now I want to.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Have some fun with this. Do you think that he
stopped and he was like, is like do I correct him?
Or is that just gonna make this worse? Like maybe
maybe Biden gets really angry if you tell him that
you're not Steve. You'd like Steve, stop playing games.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Thanks Steve. I want all of the responses to be
thank Steve. But you know what I just love is
leave aside the fact that Steve Sullivan here was ready
to sell the whole nation down then down the river
so he could be NSA for for eighteen months or
whatever the heck he was Buck you know when it
happened the first time, because the report is that he said, Steve,
(22:32):
that Jake Sullivan's heart just dropped. Because ninety nine point
nine percent of Jake Slash Steve Sullivan's self work is
that the president knows who he is. That is like
as his entire like his north star is Joe. Biden
knows my name.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He Joe much to be the chief National Security Advisor
to the president. That is actually the role. This notion
that he's insulated from his preposters. But these are yet
to remember. All Democrats who have worked in government for
the last twenty years, they've all seen the West Wing.
They all have the theme to the West Wing playing
in their minds when they're walking around the White House.
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And Jake Sullivan, he's like, here, I am national Security Advisor.
Tip of the Spear working for Biden, and he's thinking
about what he's going to write in his memoirs, and
he's wondering how his place will be remembered in history,
in the pantheon of national security giants. And then he
walks in he was mister President, and Biden looks at
him and goes, Steve, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And he did it more than once, because Buck, I
guarantee you the first time he said Steve, Jake Sullivan,
who owes ninety nine point nine percent of his self
work to the president knowing his name, just pretended it
didn't happen, or like you're looking around, like looking over
your shoulder, is there maybe there's some guy named Steve
in here. Maybe maybe Biden's really sharpest attack, like they've
been saying, and he knows one of the random lower
(23:55):
level assistants. And then he goes to Jake Sullivan again
and calls him Steve, and do you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Kill other people in the meeting? Just like went with it.
They're like, well, Steve, what do you have to breast luck?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I mean, I guess he just went with you know,
it doesn't matter, And I'm somebody who's not great with names.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So I can.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But if you get somebody's name wrong that you've known
for decades, and I'm glad that he was humiliated like this,
but I want the rest of you to continue to
humiliate him forever over this and say thanks Steve anytime
he says anything.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Because he's lying.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Imagine how shocking it had to be and deflating and
destructive of his entire ego. That Biden has no idea
who he is. He can't remember his name, and to
your point, Buck, he has a really significant job. He's
one of Biden's top guys. They've known each other for
decades and Biden doesn't know who he is and I
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don't know. So I'm gonna go from humor to sadness here.
I hope I never know what it's like to have dementia,
but anyone out there who has been around someone who
does have dementia every now and then, and I saw
it with Biden, and I said it on this show.
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You can see the panic in the eyes of the
person who has dementia as they are aware, not all
the time, but they are aware that their brain does
not work like it used to, and they are scrambling
to try to keep you from recognizing what they have
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had that moment of realization of in their own mind.
And it is so incredibly sad and so incredibly awful
to think about someone doing that. And I gotta say it,
Jill Biden put her husband up to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
This again and again and again. She is an evil witch.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It is impossible for me to defend her as anything
other than an awful human being because I can make
fun of Steve Sullivan slash Jake Sullivan there, Kamala Harris,
all of these other people who owe their power to
the proximity of the president. They didn't swear when they
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got married that they were going to be the partner
for the rest of their life like Joe Biden did.
Now I know she's wife number two, but leave that aside.
The one person that Joe Biden, probably, whatever you think
of him, and I think he's an awful president, whatever
you think about him, the one person that he should
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have been able to rely on, failed him and put
him in that position over and over again. I remember
that video Buck with them there walking in the sand,
and Biden every step he takes he looks like he's
going to fall, and Jill doesn't even look back at him.
She's completely dismissive of him. She just trotted him out
(27:12):
at the view again and had to cover up his answers.
All I have to say is, imagine what she saw
early in the morning, late at night, imagine what she
heard him saying, and she was going to try to
drag him to the presidency for another term.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, what you see, and this is not new, and
it's not even in any way limited to Jill Biden,
but for people who are in this world of national
politics and have spent their whole lives pretty much in
and around it, which is true of both Joe and Jill,
because he's been how long have they been married, and
(27:49):
he's been a senator for forty something years, And what
matters as being in the game, and she didn't want
to give that up. More important to her, even than
her husband's dignity or any sense of honor or integrity
with the American people, had to stay in the game.
And the part of this that I also think is
(28:12):
never going to get enough attention, but I think it
deserves a lot of attention. Clay, Yes, you're right, Jill Biden.
Jill Biden achieved villain in this, although she would justify
her actions. You know, if she were she were standing
at the at the Pearly gates and they're asking her,
she would say, well, anything would be better than having
Trump even to this is what Democrats really believe that
Joe Biden, with you know, advanced Alzheimer's is a better
(28:35):
option for president than Donald Trump. I think the Democrats
believe that. I think they still believe that, and so
I don't I don't actually think that they are chastened
or feel sorry for what they did. I think they're
bothered by losing and the embarrassment of it. They're embarrassed,
but they're not they're not humbled. That's a different thing.
(28:59):
But one thing, and I I have to just remark
on here they had.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
A plan B.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The whole system is premised on, Hey, we got the
you know, things happen to human beings and they get
older or you know, God forbid something that you know,
someone does something bad to them. We know what happened
to that they try to do to Trump in the summer. Uh,
that's why you have a vice president. It was all fair.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
They didn't push for Kamala because she's such a disaster.
That they also thought Joe with all Zheimer's was a
better option than completely like mentally, they're not impressive, but
they're Kamala Harris. That is the part of the story
they will not want to talk about, but that is
(29:44):
the calculation one hundred percent that they made all Zeimer's
or dementia Joe better option than Kamala Harris. According to
the telefunctional brain was worse than dementia Joe. Yes, yes,
and I think underperformed what he would have performed in
(30:05):
the general election. I still believe that we can't run
that experiment, but yeah, I mean, I think it's an
interesting it's an interesting argument. You're getting nervous, by the
way about your nicks A.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Little bit, a little bit, A little bit nervous.
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A little bit nervous. I think that game's not till
tomorrow night, right, or maybe it's Saturday. I'm not sure
what game six.
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The problem with.
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The Celtics play is they are a better basketball team.
So hoping that your team is going to win when
the other team is just kind of better at the sport,
it can happen, but it's not easy.
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Speaker 4 (31:54):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
I think we got a bunch of talkbacks from people
out there that wanted to be weighing in. I'm gonna
if you guys will give me the updates there on
what where those are, I will hit them. But I
did want to hit this. This is cut twenty eight.
Do you know what Democrats are up to today? Buck,
(32:15):
They have introduced to bill demanding trillions of dollars in
reparations for slavery. This is real cut twenty eight.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
There is a debt that does exist. This country has
taken so much from black folks and has a debt
it owes because for over four hundred years into this
very day, this country has stolen black labor, black lives,
black futures. Industries were built and maintained through the subjugation
of black people in this country in wealth with built
and maintained through the discriminatory policies that still plug us
to this day. And to be clear, some people directly
(32:43):
benefited from it or are direct beneficiaries of it. We
have systems that create and perpetuate imbalances and balances in
our society, and you either benefit from it or you
are disenfranchised by it. And black people continue to be
disenfranchised and harmed by these systems. Others received advantages from.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
This is that this is their focus. This is what well,
this is This is an idea.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The the ideology here, which unfortunately is dominant among Democrats
and on the left, is just just to be constantly
soaked in uh in resentment and demands for others to
do for you whatever it is that you think you need.
That's it. It's just you know, you you there's a
(33:26):
there's a it's like the the malcontent religion, if you will.
Like that's really what the Democrat left is all about.
And all this as we've talked about the administration of
such a program. First of all, I think it's inherently wrong.
But the administration of such a program would be impossible
(33:49):
to do in any way that is just. And we
already have the Supreme Court look at this and say, look,
you can't have government treating people differently based on skin
color and college admissions. We either all learn to live
under the same laws or all were not a rule
of law society. And you know, my group, whatever that
means to somebody and your group are not to be
treated differently based upon some historical narrative or some grievance
(34:13):
or whatever, because all that does is perpetuate the problems
and actually exacerbate the problems.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
No doubt, well, said Michael Mansfield, Ohio.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Ee.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
What you got for us, hey, claim Buck.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Just a quick remind about all those people who kept
saying that Biden's as sharp as a tack. Tacks have
two sides, a sharp side and a blunt side. Biden
was as sharp as the blunt side.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Ff ANGI from Memphis, Tennessee six hundred WRC, A lot
of listeners down there in Memphis.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
What you got for us, hey, Clay that I just
wanted to comment on the Republicans holding the hearings on
the Joe Biden cover up. Never gonna happen, Never gonna happen.
The Republican don't stand up for anything.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I'm afraid Angie's right, And for those of you missed
it right off the top, I said, if they can
do Jan six hearings about a day that, frankly was
nowhere near the worst day in the country since the
Civil War, as Biden and Kamala insisted over and over
again with us. But if they can do that, put
them on in prime time and use them politically, how
much more significant is the cover up of Biden's dementia
(35:27):
because it definitely leads to the question of who is
actually running the country in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
who's making these decisions in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Gig for us?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I think Steve was making a lot of the decisions. Well,
Steve Sullivan might have been making a lot of the choices.
He claims he has no idea what was going on.
We'll come back to some of these listeners. By the way,
let me tell you this, Buck. You know I said earlier,
I wasn't able to watch the Supreme Court hearings or
listen to it while you were doing that. I was
at the Wax Museum, something my fourth grader does.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm gonna share this picture. Do you know who he
dressed up as today?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Buck Davy Crockett and in a perfect symbiosis. There. You
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cap on and that's where I was this morning, which
(36:24):
was pretty fantastic. Lots of great kids at his elementary
school with some amazing costumes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We'll be back with.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
You tomorrow to take you into the weekend, and hopefully
we'll be celebrating continued good news as Trump completes his
tour of the Middle East. All that and more coming
your way. Thanks for hanging with us on Clay and
Buck
All right, third hour of play, and bucket's going right now.
Thank you for being here with us. As you know,
President Trump's on a huge trip through the Middle East.
A lot going on there. Offered a pathway to normalcy
with Syria after a long and horrific civil war in
that country and US military operations there against Kadis, all
(00:22):
that stuff now, perhaps no guarantees there could be a
better future for that country. He's got deal making happening
with the Saudi's, deal making happening with the UAE, with
Cutter and perhaps with Iran as well. That remains to
be seen. Those details remain to be seen. But there's
(00:45):
also Trump speaking to the troops in Cutters. You know,
we have a very large military base there, and he
decided that he was going to address them directly. I
wanted to let you hear from some of this. We'll
talk about how the military and recruitment and all that
is going under the Trump administration as well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But this has cut eight.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Trump saying some words to the troops.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The real strength of our military doesn't come from it's
fighter jets. It really comes from our people. That's you,
comes from our people. Your unbelievable people. The aptitude and
all of the things you have to do to do
what you do. You know, I look at some of
those engines, and I'm a pretty smart cookie.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I would tell you I'm really supplied.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And I look at you, and you take those engines
apart and put them back together, blindfolded, then fix them up.
It's amazing what you're able to do, and then to
fly them just incredible. You're incredible. You're a very special
group of people. And that's why in my twenty twenty
six budget includes across the board, maybe you don't want
to look for the good of the country, you don't
(01:49):
have to take it. Pay raises for each and every
one of you, substantial pay.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Raisers, pay raise for the military clay. You know, recruitment
already up substantially under the Trump administration and Secretary of
Defense Hegseets Tenure. Turns out that the people that you
want fighting your wars or preparing rather the defense of
your nation in the event of war, want actually the
(02:15):
business of the Pentagon to be war fighting and the
focus of it to be on war fighting and not
a big social justice experiment and a bureaucracy where people
just show up and it's not really clear what anybody's doing.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
No doubt, and I think again Trump's tour of the
Middle East, it has a incredible impact already in terms
of what Iran is reportedly willing to do. And also
this comes on the heels Buck, We've got more data
from April in the economy, and I'm looking at this
(02:51):
article from Axios Hard Data. This is the headline, Hard
data suggest tear off driven inflation and respect recession fears
may be overblown. You mentioned earlier the S and P
five hundred back near six thousand, now over fifty nine hundred,
and it says a new data out Thursday showed steady
(03:15):
retail sales and a surprising drop in wholesale prices in April,
such that there is no evidence that the tariffs are
leading to massive increases in cost of goods. In fact,
the Producer price indexed showed that prices actually fell in April,
(03:40):
and the cost of goods overall is flat in many ways.
And I mentioned Buck, the price of gas, which no
one is talking. Isn't it kind of crazy that all
of the headlines we saw about what eggs cost and
I don't know what percentage of you buy eggs weekly.
Maybe all I I don't know, but I know most
(04:02):
of you buy gas weekly, and I know most of you.
When you gauge what things cost, you don't look necessarily
at one product.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
When you go to the grocery store.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
You buy whatever your usual groceries are, and then the
price comes up and you're like, boy, that's been a
lot more than I expected.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Gas is really easy.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Remember when people started putting that I did that picture
of Joe Biden next to the gas gauges, little stickers
you would see all over the place. I saw them
all over my neighborhood. Gas prices are down fifty percent
since Joe Biden was in office. They're approaching the lows
that were set when Trump was in office. And you
just played that clip from the Middle East. Well, you
(04:46):
know what happens when you have good relations with people
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They put more oil and gas they.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Actually want instead of they have a cartel they can control,
basically to a large extent, what the price of gas is.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Opek opex pretty.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Powerful and right now they're like, hey, we're well, you know,
we have a good relationship with the United States. We're
fine with producing a lot of oil and gas. It
also is cutting the economic engine out of Russia when
prices for oil and gas in Iran, which they sell
on the black market to a large extent, when overall
(05:26):
prices are low, the fact that you can get cheaper
oil and gas from Russia and Iran because they're having
to sell them on the black market means that the
money that is pouring into those countries is declining. It
should be a massive story what price we're getting for
gallons of gas?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right now? Almost no one's writing or talking about it.
And if you really.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Are concerned about the war in Ukraine, do you know
one of the best things we could do to cut
economic engine in the economic power of Russia away? Lower
gas price? Do you know the best thing we could
do to delegitimize the powers of the Ayatola in Iran?
Lower gas prices. It's a huge friggin story.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Google it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Hardly anybody's talking about it. But the price of eggs,
Oh my goodness, we got to know every We gotta
know how much your scrambled eggs cost. It's really goes
to what stories are focused on. And I'm telling you,
yesterday when I saw two sixty five gallon of gas
in South Nashville. I bought over the weekend. I think
(06:31):
it was two eighty seven. Prices keep coming down, Buck.
This is where most people, normal people, judge the economy
based on what they have to pay to fill their
gas tank up.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That's just the reality.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
There's something else that I think Trump instinctively knows and
has known his whole life and has lived his whole life,
which is that the American economy is the single greatest
wealth generation machine ever devised in the history of existence. Okay,
(07:03):
nothing has ever been anywhere near what America has been
for let's say, certainly the last one hundred and you
know something years. Okay, America has been an incredible wealth
generation machine. If it is allowed to continue to do
what it does, it will also continue to make all
(07:24):
of us wealthier. And I mean that, every single one
of us as a people. It means, you know, this
is when you start to look at what was the
access to If you look at somebody in the nineteen
fifties who was really rich, and look at somebody today, Okay,
I mean your access to much better healthcare, much better food,
much better entertainment, much more comfortable everything. I mean, we
(07:46):
are all wealthier. Actually, this is what people get very
much into. And Naval Ravakan, who's a thinker that I
sometimes cite on the show, does a very good job
of explaining this. We get into status a lot of
the time. Wealth and status are not the same thing, right.
You can talk about everybody getting wealthier in a country,
and there may be people who still say no, no, no,
(08:07):
and it's because they don't think that they have more.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Than the people.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They want to have more then, but that's not the
same thing I think Trump understands. So that's the status
versus wealth paradigm. We all have actually gotten wealthier as
a nation. I'm talking about now over one hundred year. Yeah,
recently there's been some or you know there there have
been years. You look at two thousand and eight. Things
have turned a bit. But as long as we don't
mess up this amazing thing called the American economy too badly,
(08:36):
it's going to continue to do what it does, which
is create a wealthier and a more prosperous America all
the time. Democrats are always so focused clay on hyper
regulating it and dividing the spoils within it and finding
ways to carve up the pie. They don't even stop
to think this pie is getting bigger every year. Yes,
(08:58):
let's how do we make this How do we keep
this pie growing and getting bigger all the time? With
again the Democrat mindset, because it's about equality in their minds,
it's about status and if I don't, if I feel
like there are too many people who have This is
why Bernie Sanders goes around. Billionaires have no impact on
ninety nine point nine percent of Americans day to day lives. Okay,
(09:21):
it doesn't matter that there are a thousand billionaires or
something like that in this country, but it's a fun
way to divert people from Hey, what are you actually
paying in taxes in your state? How good is your
healthcare that you're being forced to buy because of regulations?
What's actually happening with inflation chipping away at your savings?
Like those are real things that affect you.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Your analogy on the pie is actually the way that
I see the country. I didn't like living on the
East Coast because it felt to me like everybody was like,
there's only twelve slices. We're gonna have to fight you
to see who can get the most slices, Like the
East Coast, I would argue, of all the parts of
the United States is the most focused and status conscious.
(10:06):
You getting something means somebody else will loses something. Best
case scenario West Coast used to be before they destroyed it. Hey,
let's build a brand new pie. That's way bigger, right,
like the brand new technology.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It's not old school.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Europe is the worst with you with your pie analogy.
South is like, hey, do you want to share? You know,
It's like people are just really friendly. They're not necessarily
as as status obsessed, but what you hit on is
so important because we all live. This is a great
stat and I think it's still true. The poorest twenty
(10:40):
percent of Americans would be the richest people in almost
every country in the world. And one of my favorite stats.
I think you may have shared it for the first time.
England is poorer than Mississippi. Yep, per capita. Yeah, and
that's a holy crab moment if you've been to London.
I'm not saying there's not a lot of rich people,
but for a long time people dump on Mississippi. It's
(11:02):
great state, by the way, a lot of great people,
but they would say, oh, it's and I think it's
still Mississippi as the poorest average per capita in the
United States. It's richer than Great Britain, and that speaks
to the wealth overall of the United States, that even
our poorest state is wealthier than a huge European country
(11:25):
on average.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, well, this is also why you know, we have
and this is maybe transitions a little bit of the
RFK discussion. We have become a society where the challenges
of and the diseases of abundance are far more of
a problem than to diseases of scarcity. Whether it's eating
(11:45):
way too much and obesity and the health challenges from that,
that's obviously an overabundance issue.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know, we're talking about the grocery store thing yesterday,
and maybe this just makes me sound like I don't
know how many of her watched Perfect Strangers, but I
sound like Belkie Bartakamus, who is the uh. I think
it's supposed to be like a Greek immigrant or something,
and he says like, oh, what the you know, amazing country,
But I walk into the grocery stores around here, Clay,
It's just like a vast reservoir of food. It's unbelievable
(12:12):
how much produce and food Americans have access to. And
we don't even think twice. And I've been you know,
you've been in places too. I mean, you go to
the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Caribbean's poor. A lot of parts in the Caribbean are poor.
I live there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
There are some, Yes, that's what I mean. But I'm saying,
you know, it's truly poor, right, I mean, you know,
Haiti's one of the poorest countries on the planet. You
go around here, you just take all of this stuff,
all this stuff for granted a lot of the time.
And I just think that with Trump, which you have,
is somebody whose focus is letting the greatest wealth generation
machine in human history, which there is no argument that
(12:47):
America is that thing, letting it just do its thing,
like ride this, ride this show horse all the way
to the finish line. With Democrats, they sit around and
they have committees about like, well, what about the other horses,
Like how are.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They going to feel?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Like what about the DA No, Let's let the American
economy and it's a little bit of a Calvin Cooliest thing.
Let the business of the American people be business. And
I just think that you're seeing the early stages of that,
and it doesn't have we don't have to have the
sclerotic bureaucracy that is choking off so much wealth generation, creativity.
(13:26):
And when you start to think about this country versus
other countries, I mean, you just look at GDP per
capital wealth Clay. You know, China we think of as
our nearest competitor. I think Chinese GDP per capita is
like a third of ours. I'm going off the top
of my head here, but I mean it's a fraction
of what. Not only that, what they find is it's
very hard to take the proverbial next step to actually
(13:47):
challenge us, because this goes back to historically Japan was
going to pass us if you looked at all the
projections China's peaked, I think China's already begun to decline.
And that's what can make them a little bit scary
right now because sometimes, as we know historically, it's not
when you peak that your power is at most. It's
when you start to lose power that sometimes you overreach,
which could happen with Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Things like I just.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Think everyone should always be very cautious about listening to
the catastrophists and the the high priests of resentment because
that again, that gets you back into that status.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
This is what Marxists do. This is how communism gets going.
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's as long as they they they're making the right
people miserable, they can make you miserable too. It's kind
of the way that you know, or overregulated, over controlled
the economy's function. And Trump takes the approach of how
do we do what is going to be best for
(14:46):
the most every you know, one hundred times out of
one hundred. The way to do this is to try
to actually grow the American economy and we will all
get richer. And there are a lot of ways we
can even look at this ourselves. But I just think
the catastrophism stuff is it's so yeah, we have to
watch the debt. That's when we can't. We can't just
let this machine get destroyed. But it actually works, That's
(15:09):
my fundamental thing. Like Trump knows that it works.
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Speaker 4 (16:33):
Some good news for President Trump, in addition to many
other things going on well for him right now, he
now has an eleventh grandchild. His daughter Tiffany has just
given birth and announced that they have had a baby
boy named Alexander. So grandchild number eleven for President Trump,
(16:54):
which is pretty fantastic. I would imagine for those of
you out there that have been able to become grandparents
we come back. Jake Sullivan, who according to a new book,
was called Steve multiple times in a public room where
everybody could see, despite the fact that he's known Biden
for decades, said he had no idea and told the
(17:16):
debate that Biden was not doing well mentally. I just
think we need to hold these people accountable and be
playing all of the things they said, which are clear lies,
and so we'll hit some of this for you when
we come back again.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I just like to make sure we remember what needs
to be remembered here to understand the full scope of
the deception here, Clay, this is lying about something that's
really important. Yes, it's really important whether or not the
most powerful person on the planet has a brain that
functions Yes, this is not lying about like whether the
(17:50):
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, so we're.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Getting more and more. Look, some of this is just
to have fun with it, because we had to sit
here and deal with all of the lies, all of
the nonsense from these Democrats for a long time, and
they were all so smug at their overpaid perchase at
CNN and MSNBC and New York Times in these places,
(19:12):
they're all, oh, Biden's fine, he's sharp as attack, and
we're just finding out more and more they I mean,
they all knew and and there must have been some
part of them, Clay. As as much as they lack integrity,
there's a level of humiliation that goes with this too.
I mean to say that this guy was not, you know,
Captain mushy Brain is just it's it's it's degrading. It's degrading,
(19:36):
I don't know, so degrading.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Reports today that Jake Sullivan, Jake Sullivan's best callbuck probably
was whin like two days before October seventh, he said
to Middle East had never been quieter and safer, and
then oh yeah, Hamas attacks unbelievable timing but he was
asked by Politico. Hey, uh, and before I play this,
(20:01):
there are reports today that Biden multiple times referred to
him as Steve. They've known each other for and I'm
gonna talk about how funny this is in a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
They have known each other for decades.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Jake Sullivan, I'm not saying that you should do yes,
you should do this every time. I don't know how
often Jake Sullivan tweets every I'm asking all of you,
every time that he tweets, for the rest of his career,
just respond thanks Steve. Like I want this to be
the number one every time Jake Sullivan tweets for the
(20:34):
rest of his life. I want one of you to respond,
at least one of you, thanks Steve. And if you're
not saying thanks Steve, I want you to, like the
first person who was there, to stay Thanks Steve. I
want every one of his tweets to be outvoted by
thanks Steve. But he was asked because he's a liar,
and he's a shameless liar, And he was asked by Politico,
(20:55):
when did you first realize that Joe Biden might not
be mentally sharp? And this was his answer, just a
few months ago.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
What happened in that debate was a shock to me.
I think was a shock to everybody. And I've made
that point before.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just finally, do you think in retrospect, given everything that's
happened and everything we've talked about today, it was a
mistake for President Biden to try some one again.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
One of the things about being National Security advisor is
that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political decision making.
I was insulated from it to the point where while
I was National Security Advisor, my spouse was running for Congress,
and I had strict rules about what I could even
do to support my spouse, let alone be involved in
political decision making, political calls in the White House. So
(21:40):
I have not weighed in on those issues and would
not weigh in on those issues.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Okay, so Buck, there are reports that he was in
the Oval office and Biden called him Steve.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
They have known each other for decades. Now I want to.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Have some fun with this. Do you think that he
stopped and he was like, is like do I correct him?
Or is that just gonna make this worse? Like maybe
maybe Biden gets really angry if you tell him that
you're not Steve. You'd like Steve, stop playing games.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Thanks Steve. I want all of the responses to be
thank Steve. But you know what I just love is
leave aside the fact that Steve Sullivan here was ready
to sell the whole nation down then down the river
so he could be NSA for for eighteen months or
whatever the heck he was Buck you know when it
happened the first time, because the report is that he said, Steve,
(22:32):
that Jake Sullivan's heart just dropped. Because ninety nine point
nine percent of Jake Slash Steve Sullivan's self work is
that the president knows who he is. That is like
as his entire like his north star is Joe. Biden
knows my name.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He Joe much to be the chief National Security Advisor
to the president. That is actually the role. This notion
that he's insulated from his preposters. But these are yet
to remember. All Democrats who have worked in government for
the last twenty years, they've all seen the West Wing.
They all have the theme to the West Wing playing
in their minds when they're walking around the White House.
(23:13):
And Jake Sullivan, he's like, here, I am national Security Advisor.
Tip of the Spear working for Biden, and he's thinking
about what he's going to write in his memoirs, and
he's wondering how his place will be remembered in history,
in the pantheon of national security giants. And then he
walks in he was mister President, and Biden looks at
him and goes, Steve, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And he did it more than once, because Buck, I
guarantee you the first time he said Steve, Jake Sullivan,
who owes ninety nine point nine percent of his self
work to the president knowing his name, just pretended it
didn't happen, or like you're looking around, like looking over
your shoulder, is there maybe there's some guy named Steve
in here. Maybe maybe Biden's really sharpest attack, like they've
been saying, and he knows one of the random lower
(23:55):
level assistants. And then he goes to Jake Sullivan again
and calls him Steve, and do you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Kill other people in the meeting? Just like went with it.
They're like, well, Steve, what do you have to breast luck?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
I mean, I guess he just went with you know,
it doesn't matter, And I'm somebody who's not great with names.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So I can.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
But if you get somebody's name wrong that you've known
for decades, and I'm glad that he was humiliated like this,
but I want the rest of you to continue to
humiliate him forever over this and say thanks Steve anytime
he says anything.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Because he's lying.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Imagine how shocking it had to be and deflating and
destructive of his entire ego. That Biden has no idea
who he is. He can't remember his name, and to
your point, Buck, he has a really significant job. He's
one of Biden's top guys. They've known each other for
decades and Biden doesn't know who he is and I
(24:54):
don't know. So I'm gonna go from humor to sadness here.
I hope I never know what it's like to have dementia,
but anyone out there who has been around someone who
does have dementia every now and then, and I saw
it with Biden, and I said it on this show.
(25:14):
You can see the panic in the eyes of the
person who has dementia as they are aware, not all
the time, but they are aware that their brain does
not work like it used to, and they are scrambling
to try to keep you from recognizing what they have
(25:37):
had that moment of realization of in their own mind.
And it is so incredibly sad and so incredibly awful
to think about someone doing that. And I gotta say it,
Jill Biden put her husband up to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
This again and again and again. She is an evil witch.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It is impossible for me to defend her as anything
other than an awful human being because I can make
fun of Steve Sullivan slash Jake Sullivan there, Kamala Harris,
all of these other people who owe their power to
the proximity of the president. They didn't swear when they
(26:27):
got married that they were going to be the partner
for the rest of their life like Joe Biden did.
Now I know she's wife number two, but leave that aside.
The one person that Joe Biden, probably, whatever you think
of him, and I think he's an awful president, whatever
you think about him, the one person that he should
(26:51):
have been able to rely on, failed him and put
him in that position over and over again. I remember
that video Buck with them there walking in the sand,
and Biden every step he takes he looks like he's
going to fall, and Jill doesn't even look back at him.
She's completely dismissive of him. She just trotted him out
(27:12):
at the view again and had to cover up his answers.
All I have to say is, imagine what she saw
early in the morning, late at night, imagine what she
heard him saying, and she was going to try to
drag him to the presidency for another term.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, what you see, and this is not new, and
it's not even in any way limited to Jill Biden,
but for people who are in this world of national
politics and have spent their whole lives pretty much in
and around it, which is true of both Joe and Jill,
because he's been how long have they been married, and
(27:49):
he's been a senator for forty something years, And what
matters as being in the game, and she didn't want
to give that up. More important to her, even than
her husband's dignity or any sense of honor or integrity
with the American people, had to stay in the game.
And the part of this that I also think is
(28:12):
never going to get enough attention, but I think it
deserves a lot of attention. Clay, Yes, you're right, Jill Biden.
Jill Biden achieved villain in this, although she would justify
her actions. You know, if she were she were standing
at the at the Pearly gates and they're asking her,
she would say, well, anything would be better than having
Trump even to this is what Democrats really believe that
Joe Biden, with you know, advanced Alzheimer's is a better
(28:35):
option for president than Donald Trump. I think the Democrats
believe that. I think they still believe that, and so
I don't I don't actually think that they are chastened
or feel sorry for what they did. I think they're
bothered by losing and the embarrassment of it. They're embarrassed,
but they're not they're not humbled. That's a different thing.
(28:59):
But one thing, and I I have to just remark
on here they had.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
A plan B.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The whole system is premised on, Hey, we got the
you know, things happen to human beings and they get
older or you know, God forbid something that you know,
someone does something bad to them. We know what happened
to that they try to do to Trump in the summer. Uh,
that's why you have a vice president. It was all fair.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
They didn't push for Kamala because she's such a disaster.
That they also thought Joe with all Zheimer's was a
better option than completely like mentally, they're not impressive, but
they're Kamala Harris. That is the part of the story
they will not want to talk about, but that is
(29:44):
the calculation one hundred percent that they made all Zeimer's
or dementia Joe better option than Kamala Harris. According to
the telefunctional brain was worse than dementia Joe. Yes, yes,
and I think underperformed what he would have performed in
(30:05):
the general election. I still believe that we can't run
that experiment, but yeah, I mean, I think it's an
interesting it's an interesting argument. You're getting nervous, by the
way about your nicks A.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Little bit, a little bit, A little bit nervous.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
A little bit nervous. I think that game's not till
tomorrow night, right, or maybe it's Saturday. I'm not sure
what game six.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
The problem with.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
The Celtics play is they are a better basketball team.
So hoping that your team is going to win when
the other team is just kind of better at the sport,
it can happen, but it's not easy.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,
I think we got a bunch of talkbacks from people
out there that wanted to be weighing in. I'm gonna
if you guys will give me the updates there on
what where those are, I will hit them. But I
did want to hit this. This is cut twenty eight.
Do you know what Democrats are up to today? Buck,
(32:15):
They have introduced to bill demanding trillions of dollars in
reparations for slavery. This is real cut twenty eight.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
There is a debt that does exist. This country has
taken so much from black folks and has a debt
it owes because for over four hundred years into this
very day, this country has stolen black labor, black lives,
black futures. Industries were built and maintained through the subjugation
of black people in this country in wealth with built
and maintained through the discriminatory policies that still plug us
to this day. And to be clear, some people directly
(32:43):
benefited from it or are direct beneficiaries of it. We
have systems that create and perpetuate imbalances and balances in
our society, and you either benefit from it or you
are disenfranchised by it. And black people continue to be
disenfranchised and harmed by these systems. Others received advantages from.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
This is that this is their focus. This is what well,
this is This is an idea.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The the ideology here, which unfortunately is dominant among Democrats
and on the left, is just just to be constantly
soaked in uh in resentment and demands for others to
do for you whatever it is that you think you need.
That's it. It's just you know, you you there's a
(33:26):
there's a it's like the the malcontent religion, if you will.
Like that's really what the Democrat left is all about.
And all this as we've talked about the administration of
such a program. First of all, I think it's inherently wrong.
But the administration of such a program would be impossible
(33:49):
to do in any way that is just. And we
already have the Supreme Court look at this and say, look,
you can't have government treating people differently based on skin
color and college admissions. We either all learn to live
under the same laws or all were not a rule
of law society. And you know, my group, whatever that
means to somebody and your group are not to be
treated differently based upon some historical narrative or some grievance
(34:13):
or whatever, because all that does is perpetuate the problems
and actually exacerbate the problems.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
No doubt, well, said Michael Mansfield, Ohio.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
Ee.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
What you got for us, hey, claim Buck.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
Just a quick remind about all those people who kept
saying that Biden's as sharp as a tack. Tacks have
two sides, a sharp side and a blunt side. Biden
was as sharp as the blunt side.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Ff ANGI from Memphis, Tennessee six hundred WRC, A lot
of listeners down there in Memphis.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
What you got for us, hey, Clay that I just
wanted to comment on the Republicans holding the hearings on
the Joe Biden cover up. Never gonna happen, Never gonna happen.
The Republican don't stand up for anything.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I'm afraid Angie's right, And for those of you missed
it right off the top, I said, if they can
do Jan six hearings about a day that, frankly was
nowhere near the worst day in the country since the
Civil War, as Biden and Kamala insisted over and over
again with us. But if they can do that, put
them on in prime time and use them politically, how
much more significant is the cover up of Biden's dementia
(35:27):
because it definitely leads to the question of who is
actually running the country in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
who's making these decisions in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Gig for us?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I think Steve was making a lot of the decisions. Well,
Steve Sullivan might have been making a lot of the choices.
He claims he has no idea what was going on.
We'll come back to some of these listeners. By the way,
let me tell you this, Buck. You know I said earlier,
I wasn't able to watch the Supreme Court hearings or
listen to it while you were doing that. I was
at the Wax Museum, something my fourth grader does.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm gonna share this picture. Do you know who he
dressed up as today?
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Buck Davy Crockett and in a perfect symbiosis. There. You
need to go check out Crocketcoffee dot com. Make sure
that you go subscribe. You can get an autograph copy
of my book, and I will share this picture of
my fourth grader. He had a great Davy Crockett Coonskin
cap on and that's where I was this morning, which
(36:24):
was pretty fantastic. Lots of great kids at his elementary
school with some amazing costumes.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We'll be back with.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
You tomorrow to take you into the weekend, and hopefully
we'll be celebrating continued good news as Trump completes his
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