August 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic blend of political insight, cultural commentary, and personal reflection, anchored by Clay Travis while Buck Sexton is away on summer break. This hour features a compelling interview with South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, author of One Nation Always Under God: Profiles in Christian Courage, and dives deep into the crisis of fatherlessness in America, the role of faith in family life, and the impact of government policy on household dynamics.
Clay opens the hour by previewing his exclusive YouTube-only book reviews, including The Fate of the Day, a volume in the American Revolution trilogy, and thrillers by Mick Herron, Sue Grafton, and Robert Parker. He emphasizes the importance of reading and historical literacy for conservative audiences.
A major theme of Hour 3 is the decline of fatherhood in American homes. Clay and listeners explore how absent fathers—across racial and socioeconomic lines—correlate with rising violent crime, poverty, and social instability. The discussion includes listener emails and calls, including one from Ralph in Cincinnati, who shares his personal struggle for equal custody and critiques the family court system’s bias toward mothers. Clay argues for 50/50 parenting time and criticizes the financial incentives that perpetuate divorce litigation.
Senator Tim Scott joins the program to discuss his book and personal journey growing up in a single-parent household. He highlights the importance of faith, family, and male role models in shaping strong communities. Scott shares statistics on fatherless homes—over 70% among African-American boys and 40% among white working-class families—and calls for a cultural and spiritual revival to restore family values.
The hour also touches on President Trump’s call for a new census, which could shift congressional representation and electoral college influence toward red states. Clay explains how a corrected census could add seats in Florida and Texas while reducing representation in California and New York.
In a lighter segment, Clay and Senator Scott discuss college football rivalries, with Scott predicting a strong season for the South Carolina Gamecocks. The conversation showcases Scott’s loyalty and enthusiasm for sports, adding a relatable and entertaining dimension to the hour.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ooh, welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck
with his family for the remainder of the week on
a little bit of a summer get away. I've got
you for the rest of today and tomorrow. We'll be
back together on the Monday edition of the program. Senator
Tim Scott going to join me at the bottom of
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the hour if you're out there right now and you
would like to hear. The first couple of hours of
the program, we had Senator Marsha Blackburn, who just announced
yesterday she is running for governor of Tennessee on with
us at twelve thirty Eastern. At one thirty Eastern, Michael
Wattley from North Carolina was on with us, and like
(00:42):
I said, Senator Tim Scott will be on with us
at the bottom of the hour. Right before the show started,
to thank you for taking us over one hundred thousand
subscribers on the Clay and Buck YouTube channel, I did
a book review segment that is only going to be
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up on YouTube, and I'll give you a little bit
of a preview of that. So many of you are
interested in good American history, good books to read, so
I gave two book reviews and I'm just going to
mention them here. You guys know I love reading about
a history, American history in particular. I am reading The
(01:23):
Fate of the Day, which is volume two of the
American Revolution trilogy. I'm holding it up just so you
can see the cover. It's incredible. I'm about halfway through it.
If you want to hear me talk about it more,
you can go to the YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That video will be up.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm going to try to do fun things there that
are not airing on the radio program. I also told
youa hey, if you're a mystery thriller kind of person,
which I am, I usually have a nonfiction book going
at the same time as a fiction book and I
read which i've or I'm in the mood for. I
have mentioned this on the show before, but I just
(02:03):
finished Mickharron, who is a London based thriller spy espionage writer.
Eight of them, the Slow Horses television version. Maybe some
of you have seen this on Apple TV. I am
told it is really good. I have never watched it,
but I can tell you these books are great. There
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eight of them. I love mysteries thrillers. I grew up
reading initially the Hardy Boys, and then it led into
Sue Grafton and Robert Parker and James Lee Burke.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And so anyway, if.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You are a thriller reader, Patricia Cornwell you name you
guys know all of these Alex Cross series, all of
these you know, I gave you good reviews for those,
and we're gonna do some fun things on YouTube so
you will be able to dive in there. Okay, we
got people who want to react, and for those of
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you want to get your popcorn out. We've led into
a discussion about how almost all issues in America today,
in my opinion, if you had to go to one
root cause absent fathers, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic absent fathers
I think lead to violent crime. And this actually wasn't planned,
but it came out of a email that bo, one
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of our VIP readers, wrote in saying, Hey, if we
really want to go after violent crime rates, let's prosecute
parents more often. And I said, my concern there is
that actually dads are absent, and you would end up
going after mom or grandma or maybe even grandpa who
were trying to fill in for the absent dad. And
the person who's the most responsible for everything that is
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going on will not be held accountable. And so that
was my concern. And let me hit you with this
because I mentioned that I was going to discuss it earlier,
right before I take your calls. President Trump has demanded
that there be a new census done, and I've talked
about this a lot on the program. Maybe we'll dive
into this a bit more tomorrow, but basically, Red states
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would be on tap to add ten House seats if
the census had been done correctly, and Republicans would add ten,
Democrats would lose ten, Florida would add four seats, Texas
would add four seats, California would lose three. New York
would lose two overall, and that's going to play in
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big in the electoral college by the time we get
to twenty thirty two. But they screwed up twenty twenty,
so they really should redo the census, and that is
what President Trump has called for. And we will dive
into some of that tomorrow. But again, go subscribe to
the YouTube. You can check out all original content that
is going up there. VIP email from Eric black Dad
(04:53):
out there. Let me start with this. I was fortunate
to have my dad in the home as a kid,
and my kids have the same good fortune. You are
spot on about LBG at LBJ and the great society
the government dictates on the programs essentially force dads out
in order to access the so called benefits. Never have
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a people paid such a high price for a block
of cheese. Larry Elder, Deroy Murdoch, and Jason Riley have
written and spoken extensively on this subject. They challenge the
black people out there who've been brainwashed by the liberal
culture to wake up, grow up, and man up. It's
good email from Eric, and I appreciate it. I'm glad
he's being a good dad. Look, it's easy to try
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to racialize this, and I try to avoid doing that.
I got an email and I'll read the email. I'm
not going to tell you who wrote it because I'm
not going to put him on not going to put
him on blast. But he said, he said, why are
you not talking about the fact that this is a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Huge problem for.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Black men and nobody will talk about it for black
men and black families, and and you're being a coward
because you're not focusing enough on race as it pertains
to this issue. And I'm looking at that email from
him right now. I don't think that's helpful. Honestly, it
wouldn't make me feel better as a white dad. If
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the white crime rate was zero and the black crime
rate was one hundred, I wouldn't take lee in that.
I wouldn't take enjoyment in that. If the Hispanic crime
rate was zero and the white crime rate was one hundred,
I wouldn't be like, Man, that's great, Go Hispanic people,
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white people, Man, you're the problem. I don't think you
racialize a problem. I think you actually then divide people.
What I would argue is kids without dads is a
huge American issue, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic. Now, I do
think that there is a socio economic component to this
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in this large your context, I think the government tried
to replace poor dads with the government, and there's a line,
and I think there's some truth to it. You can
racialize the line. But the way I would put it is,
when rich people get a cold, poor poor people get pneumonia.
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If you're black, you probably heard before when white people
get a cold, black people get pneumonia. It is true
when rich people have small problems, poor people get big problems,
and so I think you have to be careful when
you put government policies in place. This is, to me
the essence of Democrat politics. They sit around from their
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gated mansions and they think, oh, my goodness, you know
the real problem with crime in America is the police.
We should take them away. This is Zora Mundami, right.
All the people with money, they've got protection. Mom, Donnie
goes down to Uganda, he's got a security detail following
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him everywhere. He's not worried about crime happening to him
because he's rich enough.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
To have his own security.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You ever notice that none of those politicians who called
to defund the police ever gave up their own personal
security details. Well, wait a minute. If you think all
of us should give up police, how come you need them.
That's a really good question, isn't it. So many people
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in America they talk left and they live right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
All those media that right at the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
They're married, raising their kids. Their kids oftentimes go to
private schools. They live in gated communities. Everybody in lecturing
you on MSc nuclear families. They want a mom at home,
they want a dad at home. They want to have
security for their kids. They want private school choice for
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their kids. Why do they lecture you from a left
perspective and then live like the most conservative person on
the planet in their own life. Because the best way
to raise a family is a nuclear family, mom dad,
both at home with kids. This is what the data says.
They all know it, they want it for their own families.
(09:33):
But if you try to say, hey, we should do
this more, Hey, maybe we should put policies in place
that actually make dads more likely to be at home,
as soon as you raise that issue, oh suddenly they
don't want to have that conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So a lot of you want a wigh in. Let
me hit some of these calls.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I appreciate that VIP email and let's see here. Who
should we go to first?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Guys? Is Ralph and Cincinnati. Ralph, what you got for us?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Hey? Brother, how are you?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
So I think we're looking beyond the obvious. And it's
not a black, a white thing, Hispanic, Asian or even
a money thing, because there's a lot of very wealthy
people who've divorced and the mother automatically gets the kids
and then we hear the stories about their kids driving
very expensive cars and killing their friends. So let's just
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avoid the monetary things. I'm going to ask you a question.
Even if you're a lawyer and you have a lot
of colleagues that went into family law, I think the
perpetuation of divorce lines their pockets. The thing is, I'm
dealing with it myself. I want fifty to fifty time
with my kid. I don't want more than fifty to fifty.
That would be unfair. Automatically, the mothers always get custody regardless.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So if we're going to talk about.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Allless homes, we need to dig deeper. Some of us
fathers want to be involved. One of us fathers want
to take care of our boys. We're not allowed to.
So in Ohio twice the Senators of the Republic of
the Congress whoever pitched this concept, and both times it
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was the Ohio Bar Association that shot it down. Why
because that's their income. How many of your colleagues went
directly to family practice. Some of them were criminals, but
then they went through their divorce and saw him which
they paid an attorney, and said, well, I got to
get my money back. So I just want to give
a shout out to dad's out there that want to
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be in their kids' wives. Don't give up, keep fighting.
There's a huge movement happening right now. It's kind of
underground even in Britain. This is a global thing. There's
a movement called Parents Against People Against Prance Alienation. There's
a young man in the United States who started a
website called TUF the Unmarried Father. Those guys suffered the war.
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Are there guys out there that don't want to be
in the family? Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Were they baby trapped?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Maybe did they hook up one night and get it
gir pregnant? Maybe we don't know. But there's a lot
more of us out there that want to be in
our kida lives. But we're already labeled deadbeats just because
we're not in the house.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Thank you for the call. No, it's a great call.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Look, I don't This is why, in general, I think
any dad that is fighting to be involved in his
kid's life should be involved in his kid's life right
his or her kid's life. And I think that there
are tons of things in the divorce universe that we
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have created that incentivizes divorce and often alienates parents in
both directions, right. I think there is a religious component
to this. I mentioned that the great society happens. I
think also a decline in religion has led to less
men as heads of households and less men who are
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expecting to take on the responsibility. But I think in
a divorce context, in an ideal situation, kids would get
fifty percent of time with their dad in fifty percent
of times with their mom.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
General rule.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, Now, I don't want to dive into everybody's individual
divorce story, but I do think that one of the constant,
let me just say this as a lawyer, one of
the consequences of no fault divorce, right, which is this
idea of hey, there's nobody at fault, we just don't
want to be married anymore, is.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That sometimes fault matters. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We typically don't have no fault car accidents, right, Just
think about it. Most people don't want to get into
a car accident. But if you had a cheap car
and you could just run into a Jaguar and you
got rewarded because you intentionally caused some sort of an issue,
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the courts would look at you a skance. They would say, well,
you're more responsible for this, and that's the whole point
of like traffic law, right, Hey, who did the When
you say nobody's at fault, A part of me is
of the opinion that fault does matter. It's very rare
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that fifty percent male fifty percent female is the reason
for the divorce. And I'm talking about the financial side,
not so much the child and the parenting side. But
I do think there should be substantial family court processes
that would actually go to making things better. I'll take
some more of your calls when I come back, but
I do have empathy and sympathy for dads out there
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that are trying to be involved in their kids' lives
that feel like the entire apparatus of the court system
is slanted in favor of the mom and they can't
actually do anything to help raise their kids. That is
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Speaker 2 (16:07):
Welcome back in.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
By the way, here's the email I got from a listener.
And I appreciate you're not always going to agree with
everything I say, but I do think this is what
I was referencing everything you're talking about on the show
related to violent crime in every city especially the capital
is overwhelmingly blacks. No one wants to address that elephant
in the room. No one has the balls to say
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it on national radio. I'm tired of hearing about mobs
and teens. It's blacks almost every time. Stop calling them
mobs that beat that white lady half to death. They
were blacks almost every damn time. Okay, I don't care
who commits violent crime. I understand that perspective, but this
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is what I was saying. It wouldn't make me feel
better if Hispanic people beat that lady half to death,
or Asian people beat that lady half to death, or
white people did.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
When you focus on a race.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It makes it seem like you don't care about the
issue at all, or you expect the issue to be
solved only by the people who are having the problem.
To me, that's not American. The goal of America should
be to solve problems for all of us. Because I
don't want anybody to be a victim of a violent crime, whether.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's a sixteen year old black kid in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Or a forty three year old mom in Cincinnati, or
a twenty six year old Hispanic kid in.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want violent crime to be negligible for everybody. So
when you wag your finger and say, oh, it's just
those people doing that thing, you're not solving the problem.
It's actually just you claiming it isn't an issue because
somebody has a different color skin than you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't think that solves the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And I'm not trying to get on a high horse
and lecture everybody, but violent crime in America should be
considered a problem for everyone. And I don't think President
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in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. Join now by Senator
Tim Scott. He's got a new book, One Nation Always
under God, profiles in Christian courage and Senator I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You coming on with me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I believe that part of the motivation for this book,
according to my team, was you seeing Harrison Butker, who
is a field goal kicker for the Kansas City Chief
speaking out about faith and his family relationships. Why did
that strike you to such a degree, and then did
that help to motivate you to write this book?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yes, certainly, I see the attack on Christianity in our
country all over the place, and certainly his story got
so much press. I just kept thinking to myself, why
is it okay to attack the very foundation of the
greatest nation on earth and what we were founded upon?
And I just I find it to be just utterly ridiculous.
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Clay on the attacks that Christianity has to endure. I
wanted to do something that highlighted and celebrated strong profiles
and Christian courage. Why our country is the greatest country
on the planet is because of men and women who
responded to a call in their heart to make something
and someone better outside of themselves. And I'm so thankful
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that we have professional athletes rare these days, who take
a strong stand for faith, not just at the microphone
after a game, but literally giving a speech that they
wanted to literally take tiny pieces out of that speech
and find a way to make fun of him and
condemn his faith. Utterly ridiculous to me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I don't know if you've heard any of the program.
Probably not, you kind of a busy guy, but we've
ended up talking quite a lot today about the decline
of fathers, and I think it in the family household,
and I think it ties in with the book that
you were writing, because one reason that might be happening
is an absence of religion, and a lot of young
men are honestly going back to church.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I don't think you're a dad yet, but I've got
three boys. I think all the time about how to
raise them to be strong, good parents. Why do you
think we're struggling to such an extent with young men,
and how do we get black, white, Asian Hispanic dads
back in the family raising strong young men.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, Clay, I think one of the reasons why President
Trump has endorsed the book One Nation Always under God
is because I focus really on that subject matter by
telling my own story of growing up in a single
parent household. And what you just said, Clay, is so important.
It was so casual when you said it, but it
was powerful in my ears. One of the scriptures I'm
really excited about is Proverbs tween seven seventeen that says
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iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the other. The
best way to do that, Clay, is to have a
father in the household. You just said very casually that
you are there for your three sons. Seventy two to
seventy four percent the numbers escape me of African American
boys do not have their father in the household. Forty
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of white working class families don't have a father and
the household that does not tell about the future we
want in this nation. And so you covering fatherhood and
the importance of a male role model in the house
is undeniably the most important thing we can do to
get this nation back on tracks except for faith. Faith
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is a foundation, family, the most powerful single unit in
the nation. Upon those two, you build an objective standard,
you apply it fairly to everyone. You get a flourishing
country called America. Without that very important building blog called
a family. We as a nation, we don't work, and
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we don't work without a faith filled foundation upon which
all things stand. So I can spend as much time
as you want to on the importance that a father
plays in the household. I just became a honistatic just
a year ago, of three kids that I've beenherited by
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getting married, and I got to tell you, it changes
your focus to the future. It reminds you of the
importance of a value system, and it underscores why one
nation always under God and these profiles and Christian courage
is something that has as much to do about the
future as it illuminates the past.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
One of the things that we talked about is pre
you think about things only getting better in the country, right,
that's the goal. We want everybody's generation to be better
than it was before.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But you and I.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If we went back to nineteen fifty you just ran
through some of those statistics, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. I
know there would have been fewer Asian and Hispanic households,
but certainly a lot of white and black households. Dad
would have been home. Right nineteen fifties America, dad was
home raising his kids. In general, I know there were exceptions.
There's people out there listening. You yourself just said you
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didn't have a father in the household. This has been
an issue that's gone on for long time. How do
you think we change it?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's one thing if we were getting a little bit
better every year, But this is one of those things
where you look back and you say, boy, you know what,
seventy years ago, kids growing up in America were more
likely to have a dad in the household.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What could we do? What should we do?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't even see this as remotely political, because I
think every kid is way better off with a dad.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In the household. What should we be doing to encourage that?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well? Number one, we need to remind men of their
responsibility and not in fathering a child, but by raising
that child. It's such an important part of it. You know,
if you think about what a father provides for me.
The lack of a father made me very disillusioned about
who I would be growing up. What I could become.
Someone to teach me how to drive, how to shave.
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That person was absent, and it makes everything more difficult.
I am thankful that I became a Christian at a
very young age and I found the father figure needed
in understanding my heavenly Father. And as a result, I
could go to Ephesians two and read about certain attributes
or characteristics I would have. I could go to Galatians
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three twenty eight and see that I was adopted in
to this whole family called the Lord's family. But to
make it practical in everyday American households, number one, the
man needs to understand his responsibility. Number two, he needs
to be present. The way that we encourage both, I think,
is by reminding men of that importance. I spoke at
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a men's group about two Saturdays go with a couple
hundred men in the room, and I've talked about you
can be a male without being a man. A male
just tells you you know who you are. A from
a DNA perspective, being a man. They are attributes and
characteristics that come with being a man. Being responsible, being accountable,
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being self sacrificing, serving, not just leading. These are characteristics
of being a man. Being a male may be reproductive.
It may be having a good time on Saturday nights,
but not showing up on Sunday mornings. Being a man
says you show up Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday. It's twenty four hours a day, seven days
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a week, three sixty five. That's how a man becomes
a father. A mail does not necessarily do so.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The book is One Nation Always under God, profiles in
Christian courage. We're talking to Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina.
All Right, these are big issues, these are important issues,
but I'm about to put you on the real hot seat.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Who's going to be better this year? South Carolina or Clemson.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I know that the polls I can already tell. That's
a good politician answer to start with. Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
For those of you who don't know both both hope,
let me tell people. South Carolina game costs expect to
be very good. Clemson Tigers also expect to be very good.
The biggest rivalry in the state of South Carolina. Okay,
that's the backlog. Now you can dive in.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Thank you brother, it's plenty of park lay. I know
the poll suggests that Clemson's going to be better. One
pole has them at number six. They have South Carolina
at nineteen. As a lifelong game Cox fan, yes, I'm
a crazy politician, I'm just going to tell you the
truth and where I stand. The game Cocks are going
to have a better season. I know it because Shane Beemer.
He's the man, the myth, and he will be the legend.
(27:20):
And as a result of that, he will coach his
team to a nine to three record. And the Clipson
Tigers they're going to stumble a couple of times and
they will end up around eight and four, eight and three.
The difference, of course, is we play in the SEC.
They play in the ACC. We're not talking basketball, we're
talking football.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That's actually I thought you would dodge it. I didn't
think you would pick a side. So I've impressed. But
I love Shane Beemer, really good dude, the head coach
at South Carolina. I also like Dabo, but I know
Shane biemerl Lenora sellers. For those of you out there
who do not know, fabulous quarterback for South Carolina. What
should people know about him? Getting ready for about three
(28:05):
weeks from now when Toby's leather you know?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Interesting enough, he turned down more nil money, Yeah, stay
at at Carolina than he could have gotten three to
four million dollars more or someplace else. That tells me.
Number one, he's a South Line boy born and brad.
Number two, he's committed, which is an unusual character characteristic.
We'd like to see him fathers as well, by the way.
And number three, he has a strong run game, but
(28:31):
he's been he's been improving his past game, and that
to me is a quintessential quarterback. Can scramble, but thread
the needle. I don't want him to run too much
because that's how you get injured. I want him to
stay in the pocket, scramble a little bit and hit
that the receiver who's running a ten and out or
a goal post. And when that happens, I think we'll
be having a good season. I know as a critical
(28:53):
of my Clemson Tigers, and I'm going to have some
emails coming in about that. But I gotta just tell you,
I love Dabbo. Jim Clemens is the best president and
a university president and all of America. Clemson's president. But
at the end of the day, a man's got to
be where a man has been his whole life. If
that's the Carolina game got.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know, I actually think and i know there's a
lot of politicians, and I'm sure you've seen it in
your career for sure, who try to thread the needle
and avoid picking aside. I actually think sports fans appreciate
someone who picks the side more because the traditional politician
tries to avoid it. Hey, I hope the book does
really well. I appreciate you coming on with us. You
got an open invite anytime you want to come on
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and keep up the fighting.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Thank you. Clearing Man. One Nation's Always on the God
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Amen, go check it out. That is Senator Tim Scott.
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Marsha Blackburn, Michael Wattley and Tim Scott and uh those
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(31:43):
telling you about a mystery series, espionage thriller Mick Heron
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can you just email me individually and let me know
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You'll see me talking about it for ten minutes, me
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Speaker 1 (32:11):
We're gonna be doing a bunch of fun original things
that are only taking place there.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, I thought we had a bunch of serious discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I appreciate it deluged with emails and calls and all
of that, but I thought we could finish with some
funny things here. You can also update me, guys quickly
here while we're playing these clips, if there's anybody still waiting.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But first, this is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Diana Diana Diana Tarassi, whose name I probably messed up.
She is complaining that she was not paid enough money.
This is I would just say, in general, I don't
understand who advises the w NBA players, but boy, oh boy,
every time they're interviewed, they managed to make themselves sound
(32:57):
less likable. She says, hey, the jan or was making
more money than me. This is unacceptable.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Here she is, I'm the best player in the world,
and I have to go to a communist country to
get paid like a capitalist.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Playing in Europe during the WNBA's off season, these women
were going for seven or eight months.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
They were chasing their value.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We weren't making that much money.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
So generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league, in worse conditions
against the best competition in the world. The janitor at
arena made more than me.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Okay, I don't know if you heard there at the end,
the effing janitor at the arena made more than me.
The janitor is more valuable his skill set, if that
is true, is actually providing something that his employer values.
The WNBA, to this day has never made a dollar make.
(34:00):
Suring us that you are not being paid enough while
demeaning what a janitor makes as if he's not worthy
of his salary, is not the way to convince me
that I should be a fan of the WNBA. It's
as if they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be
to try to build a bigger fan base. Pay us
(34:20):
what you owe us. Well, actually you would be paying
the owners if that were the case, because your league
has never made money. I don't get it. It is
so tone deaf. But anyway, that is a new Amazon special.
Go ahead and put it on your viewing list. This
was CBS news CBS this morning, they had Neil Degrass
(34:41):
taught Tyson on and he says that he's talking about
colonizing the Moon, which is kind of a fun science
fiction e topic, and the guy who is interviewing him says, well,
should we be worried about colonizing the Moon because we
know how.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Awful colonial is them worked out? This is real.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
This is what you heard if you were watching CBS
this morning, cut twenty six.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
If we want to keep growing a population, or if
we want to live forever, all right, we're going to
need We're gonna need another planet. So is that the Moon?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Because A, I don't want to live on the moon,
right it.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Is it would serve as a functional life source eventually
for human beings, and B we know how the age
of colonialism worked on this planet. Should we be trying
to colonize and saying that there's a keepout zone that
not other countries can participate in?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, I mean the real problem.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
With the colonization history in Western civilization is that there
are people already there right right, There are no moon
beings that were just placing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I mean, can you imagine watching that the start? First
of all, I don't know who watches these morning shows
because we played the clip where they said Sidney Sweeney
is a Nazi. But can you imagine hearing the question, Hey,
should we really be interested in doing this, because hey,
colonialism worked out poorly.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
By the way, the colonies is actually.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
A really good thing. Is like, nobody wants to discuss
that bringing Western civilization to the rest of the world
has actually benefited the rest of the world immensely. I'm
actually very pro Western civilization. I think more people should
be in favor of it publicly. Lewis in Birmingham, Alabama.
Let's close it out with him, te and off on me.
Lewis what you got?
Speaker 10 (36:28):
I think Ley lewis from Birmingham, w e erc one
O five point five. I get tickled whenever I hear
you try to pronounce things and you don't get it right.
Today it was Addis Ababa, which is the capital of Ethiopia,
not a de sad whatever you said any what? Oh
it gives me tickle anyway, thick fan, Let's keep up
(36:50):
the great work.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Thanks mind apologies Ethiopia
Ooh, welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck
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yesterday she is running for governor of Tennessee on with
us at twelve thirty Eastern. At one thirty Eastern, Michael
Wattley from North Carolina was on with us, and like
(00:42):
I said, Senator Tim Scott will be on with us
at the bottom of the hour. Right before the show started,
to thank you for taking us over one hundred thousand
subscribers on the Clay and Buck YouTube channel, I did
a book review segment that is only going to be
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up on YouTube, and I'll give you a little bit
of a preview of that. So many of you are
interested in good American history, good books to read, so
I gave two book reviews and I'm just going to
mention them here. You guys know I love reading about
a history, American history in particular. I am reading The
(01:23):
Fate of the Day, which is volume two of the
American Revolution trilogy. I'm holding it up just so you
can see the cover. It's incredible. I'm about halfway through it.
If you want to hear me talk about it more,
you can go to the YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
That video will be up.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm going to try to do fun things there that
are not airing on the radio program. I also told
youa hey, if you're a mystery thriller kind of person,
which I am, I usually have a nonfiction book going
at the same time as a fiction book and I
read which i've or I'm in the mood for. I
have mentioned this on the show before, but I just
(02:03):
finished Mickharron, who is a London based thriller spy espionage writer.
Eight of them, the Slow Horses television version. Maybe some
of you have seen this on Apple TV. I am
told it is really good. I have never watched it,
but I can tell you these books are great. There
(02:24):
eight of them. I love mysteries thrillers. I grew up
reading initially the Hardy Boys, and then it led into
Sue Grafton and Robert Parker and James Lee Burke.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And so anyway, if.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You are a thriller reader, Patricia Cornwell you name you
guys know all of these Alex Cross series, all of
these you know, I gave you good reviews for those,
and we're gonna do some fun things on YouTube so
you will be able to dive in there. Okay, we
got people who want to react, and for those of
(02:59):
you want to get your popcorn out. We've led into
a discussion about how almost all issues in America today,
in my opinion, if you had to go to one
root cause absent fathers, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic absent fathers
I think lead to violent crime. And this actually wasn't planned,
but it came out of a email that bo, one
(03:21):
of our VIP readers, wrote in saying, Hey, if we
really want to go after violent crime rates, let's prosecute
parents more often. And I said, my concern there is
that actually dads are absent, and you would end up
going after mom or grandma or maybe even grandpa who
were trying to fill in for the absent dad. And
the person who's the most responsible for everything that is
(03:43):
going on will not be held accountable. And so that
was my concern. And let me hit you with this
because I mentioned that I was going to discuss it earlier,
right before I take your calls. President Trump has demanded
that there be a new census done, and I've talked
about this a lot on the program. Maybe we'll dive
into this a bit more tomorrow, but basically, Red states
(04:05):
would be on tap to add ten House seats if
the census had been done correctly, and Republicans would add ten,
Democrats would lose ten, Florida would add four seats, Texas
would add four seats, California would lose three. New York
would lose two overall, and that's going to play in
(04:27):
big in the electoral college by the time we get
to twenty thirty two. But they screwed up twenty twenty,
so they really should redo the census, and that is
what President Trump has called for. And we will dive
into some of that tomorrow. But again, go subscribe to
the YouTube. You can check out all original content that
is going up there. VIP email from Eric black Dad
(04:53):
out there. Let me start with this. I was fortunate
to have my dad in the home as a kid,
and my kids have the same good fortune. You are
spot on about LBG at LBJ and the great society
the government dictates on the programs essentially force dads out
in order to access the so called benefits. Never have
(05:14):
a people paid such a high price for a block
of cheese. Larry Elder, Deroy Murdoch, and Jason Riley have
written and spoken extensively on this subject. They challenge the
black people out there who've been brainwashed by the liberal
culture to wake up, grow up, and man up. It's
good email from Eric, and I appreciate it. I'm glad
he's being a good dad. Look, it's easy to try
(05:35):
to racialize this, and I try to avoid doing that.
I got an email and I'll read the email. I'm
not going to tell you who wrote it because I'm
not going to put him on not going to put
him on blast. But he said, he said, why are
you not talking about the fact that this is a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Huge problem for.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Black men and nobody will talk about it for black
men and black families, and and you're being a coward
because you're not focusing enough on race as it pertains
to this issue. And I'm looking at that email from
him right now. I don't think that's helpful. Honestly, it
wouldn't make me feel better as a white dad. If
(06:15):
the white crime rate was zero and the black crime
rate was one hundred, I wouldn't take lee in that.
I wouldn't take enjoyment in that. If the Hispanic crime
rate was zero and the white crime rate was one hundred,
I wouldn't be like, Man, that's great, Go Hispanic people,
(06:35):
white people, Man, you're the problem. I don't think you
racialize a problem. I think you actually then divide people.
What I would argue is kids without dads is a
huge American issue, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic. Now, I do
think that there is a socio economic component to this
(06:59):
in this large your context, I think the government tried
to replace poor dads with the government, and there's a line,
and I think there's some truth to it. You can
racialize the line. But the way I would put it is,
when rich people get a cold, poor poor people get pneumonia.
(07:19):
If you're black, you probably heard before when white people
get a cold, black people get pneumonia. It is true
when rich people have small problems, poor people get big problems,
and so I think you have to be careful when
you put government policies in place. This is, to me
the essence of Democrat politics. They sit around from their
(07:43):
gated mansions and they think, oh, my goodness, you know
the real problem with crime in America is the police.
We should take them away. This is Zora Mundami, right.
All the people with money, they've got protection. Mom, Donnie
goes down to Uganda, he's got a security detail following
(08:07):
him everywhere. He's not worried about crime happening to him
because he's rich enough.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
To have his own security.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You ever notice that none of those politicians who called
to defund the police ever gave up their own personal
security details. Well, wait a minute. If you think all
of us should give up police, how come you need them.
That's a really good question, isn't it. So many people
(08:39):
in America they talk left and they live right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
All those media that right at the New York Times.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
They're married, raising their kids. Their kids oftentimes go to
private schools. They live in gated communities. Everybody in lecturing
you on MSc nuclear families. They want a mom at home,
they want a dad at home. They want to have
security for their kids. They want private school choice for
(09:10):
their kids. Why do they lecture you from a left
perspective and then live like the most conservative person on
the planet in their own life. Because the best way
to raise a family is a nuclear family, mom dad,
both at home with kids. This is what the data says.
They all know it, they want it for their own families.
(09:33):
But if you try to say, hey, we should do
this more, Hey, maybe we should put policies in place
that actually make dads more likely to be at home,
as soon as you raise that issue, oh suddenly they
don't want to have that conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So a lot of you want a wigh in. Let
me hit some of these calls.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I appreciate that VIP email and let's see here. Who
should we go to first?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Guys? Is Ralph and Cincinnati. Ralph, what you got for us?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Hey? Brother, how are you?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm fantastic.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
So I think we're looking beyond the obvious. And it's
not a black, a white thing, Hispanic, Asian or even
a money thing, because there's a lot of very wealthy
people who've divorced and the mother automatically gets the kids
and then we hear the stories about their kids driving
very expensive cars and killing their friends. So let's just
(10:25):
avoid the monetary things. I'm going to ask you a question.
Even if you're a lawyer and you have a lot
of colleagues that went into family law, I think the
perpetuation of divorce lines their pockets. The thing is, I'm
dealing with it myself. I want fifty to fifty time
with my kid. I don't want more than fifty to fifty.
That would be unfair. Automatically, the mothers always get custody regardless.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So if we're going to talk about.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Allless homes, we need to dig deeper. Some of us
fathers want to be involved. One of us fathers want
to take care of our boys. We're not allowed to.
So in Ohio twice the Senators of the Republic of
the Congress whoever pitched this concept, and both times it
(11:16):
was the Ohio Bar Association that shot it down. Why
because that's their income. How many of your colleagues went
directly to family practice. Some of them were criminals, but
then they went through their divorce and saw him which
they paid an attorney, and said, well, I got to
get my money back. So I just want to give
a shout out to dad's out there that want to
(11:37):
be in their kids' wives. Don't give up, keep fighting.
There's a huge movement happening right now. It's kind of
underground even in Britain. This is a global thing. There's
a movement called Parents Against People Against Prance Alienation. There's
a young man in the United States who started a
website called TUF the Unmarried Father. Those guys suffered the war.
(12:00):
Are there guys out there that don't want to be
in the family? Sure?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Were they baby trapped?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Maybe did they hook up one night and get it
gir pregnant? Maybe we don't know. But there's a lot
more of us out there that want to be in
our kida lives. But we're already labeled deadbeats just because
we're not in the house.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Thank you for the call. No, it's a great call.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Look, I don't This is why, in general, I think
any dad that is fighting to be involved in his
kid's life should be involved in his kid's life right
his or her kid's life. And I think that there
are tons of things in the divorce universe that we
(12:42):
have created that incentivizes divorce and often alienates parents in
both directions, right. I think there is a religious component
to this. I mentioned that the great society happens. I
think also a decline in religion has led to less
men as heads of households and less men who are
(13:06):
expecting to take on the responsibility. But I think in
a divorce context, in an ideal situation, kids would get
fifty percent of time with their dad in fifty percent
of times with their mom.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
General rule.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Okay, Now, I don't want to dive into everybody's individual
divorce story, but I do think that one of the constant,
let me just say this as a lawyer, one of
the consequences of no fault divorce, right, which is this
idea of hey, there's nobody at fault, we just don't
want to be married anymore, is.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That sometimes fault matters. Right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We typically don't have no fault car accidents, right, Just
think about it. Most people don't want to get into
a car accident. But if you had a cheap car
and you could just run into a Jaguar and you
got rewarded because you intentionally caused some sort of an issue,
(14:08):
the courts would look at you a skance. They would say, well,
you're more responsible for this, and that's the whole point
of like traffic law, right, Hey, who did the When
you say nobody's at fault, A part of me is
of the opinion that fault does matter. It's very rare
(14:28):
that fifty percent male fifty percent female is the reason
for the divorce. And I'm talking about the financial side,
not so much the child and the parenting side. But
I do think there should be substantial family court processes
that would actually go to making things better. I'll take
some more of your calls when I come back, but
I do have empathy and sympathy for dads out there
(14:51):
that are trying to be involved in their kids' lives
that feel like the entire apparatus of the court system
is slanted in favor of the mom and they can't
actually do anything to help raise their kids. That is
very frustrating, and I have a great deal of empathy
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Welcome back in.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
By the way, here's the email I got from a listener.
And I appreciate you're not always going to agree with
everything I say, but I do think this is what
I was referencing everything you're talking about on the show
related to violent crime in every city especially the capital
is overwhelmingly blacks. No one wants to address that elephant
in the room. No one has the balls to say
(16:28):
it on national radio. I'm tired of hearing about mobs
and teens. It's blacks almost every time. Stop calling them
mobs that beat that white lady half to death. They
were blacks almost every damn time. Okay, I don't care
who commits violent crime. I understand that perspective, but this
(16:49):
is what I was saying. It wouldn't make me feel
better if Hispanic people beat that lady half to death,
or Asian people beat that lady half to death, or
white people did.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
When you focus on a race.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It makes it seem like you don't care about the
issue at all, or you expect the issue to be
solved only by the people who are having the problem.
To me, that's not American. The goal of America should
be to solve problems for all of us. Because I
don't want anybody to be a victim of a violent crime, whether.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's a sixteen year old black kid in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Or a forty three year old mom in Cincinnati, or
a twenty six year old Hispanic kid in.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want violent crime to be negligible for everybody. So
when you wag your finger and say, oh, it's just
those people doing that thing, you're not solving the problem.
It's actually just you claiming it isn't an issue because
somebody has a different color skin than you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I don't think that solves the problem.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And I'm not trying to get on a high horse
and lecture everybody, but violent crime in America should be
considered a problem for everyone. And I don't think President
Trump's only trying to solve the issue in Washington, d C.
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You coming on with me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I believe that part of the motivation for this book,
according to my team, was you seeing Harrison Butker, who
is a field goal kicker for the Kansas City Chief
speaking out about faith and his family relationships. Why did
that strike you to such a degree, and then did
that help to motivate you to write this book?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yes, certainly, I see the attack on Christianity in our
country all over the place, and certainly his story got
so much press. I just kept thinking to myself, why
is it okay to attack the very foundation of the
greatest nation on earth and what we were founded upon?
And I just I find it to be just utterly ridiculous.
(19:56):
Clay on the attacks that Christianity has to endure. I
wanted to do something that highlighted and celebrated strong profiles
and Christian courage. Why our country is the greatest country
on the planet is because of men and women who
responded to a call in their heart to make something
and someone better outside of themselves. And I'm so thankful
(20:20):
that we have professional athletes rare these days, who take
a strong stand for faith, not just at the microphone
after a game, but literally giving a speech that they
wanted to literally take tiny pieces out of that speech
and find a way to make fun of him and
condemn his faith. Utterly ridiculous to me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I don't know if you've heard any of the program.
Probably not, you kind of a busy guy, but we've
ended up talking quite a lot today about the decline
of fathers, and I think it in the family household,
and I think it ties in with the book that
you were writing, because one reason that might be happening
is an absence of religion, and a lot of young
men are honestly going back to church.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I don't think you're a dad yet, but I've got
three boys. I think all the time about how to
raise them to be strong, good parents. Why do you
think we're struggling to such an extent with young men,
and how do we get black, white, Asian Hispanic dads
back in the family raising strong young men.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Well, Clay, I think one of the reasons why President
Trump has endorsed the book One Nation Always under God
is because I focus really on that subject matter by
telling my own story of growing up in a single
parent household. And what you just said, Clay, is so important.
It was so casual when you said it, but it
was powerful in my ears. One of the scriptures I'm
really excited about is Proverbs tween seven seventeen that says
(21:41):
iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the other. The
best way to do that, Clay, is to have a
father in the household. You just said very casually that
you are there for your three sons. Seventy two to
seventy four percent the numbers escape me of African American
boys do not have their father in the household. Forty
(22:03):
of white working class families don't have a father and
the household that does not tell about the future we
want in this nation. And so you covering fatherhood and
the importance of a male role model in the house
is undeniably the most important thing we can do to
get this nation back on tracks except for faith. Faith
(22:24):
is a foundation, family, the most powerful single unit in
the nation. Upon those two, you build an objective standard,
you apply it fairly to everyone. You get a flourishing
country called America. Without that very important building blog called
a family. We as a nation, we don't work, and
(22:44):
we don't work without a faith filled foundation upon which
all things stand. So I can spend as much time
as you want to on the importance that a father
plays in the household. I just became a honistatic just
a year ago, of three kids that I've beenherited by
(23:04):
getting married, and I got to tell you, it changes
your focus to the future. It reminds you of the
importance of a value system, and it underscores why one
nation always under God and these profiles and Christian courage
is something that has as much to do about the
future as it illuminates the past.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
One of the things that we talked about is pre
you think about things only getting better in the country, right,
that's the goal. We want everybody's generation to be better
than it was before.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But you and I.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
If we went back to nineteen fifty you just ran
through some of those statistics, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. I
know there would have been fewer Asian and Hispanic households,
but certainly a lot of white and black households. Dad
would have been home. Right nineteen fifties America, dad was
home raising his kids. In general, I know there were exceptions.
There's people out there listening. You yourself just said you
(23:57):
didn't have a father in the household. This has been
an issue that's gone on for long time. How do
you think we change it?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's one thing if we were getting a little bit
better every year, But this is one of those things
where you look back and you say, boy, you know what,
seventy years ago, kids growing up in America were more
likely to have a dad in the household.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
What could we do? What should we do?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I don't even see this as remotely political, because I
think every kid is way better off with a dad.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In the household. What should we be doing to encourage that?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well? Number one, we need to remind men of their
responsibility and not in fathering a child, but by raising
that child. It's such an important part of it. You know,
if you think about what a father provides for me.
The lack of a father made me very disillusioned about
who I would be growing up. What I could become.
Someone to teach me how to drive, how to shave.
(24:48):
That person was absent, and it makes everything more difficult.
I am thankful that I became a Christian at a
very young age and I found the father figure needed
in understanding my heavenly Father. And as a result, I
could go to Ephesians two and read about certain attributes
or characteristics I would have. I could go to Galatians
(25:09):
three twenty eight and see that I was adopted in
to this whole family called the Lord's family. But to
make it practical in everyday American households, number one, the
man needs to understand his responsibility. Number two, he needs
to be present. The way that we encourage both, I think,
is by reminding men of that importance. I spoke at
(25:29):
a men's group about two Saturdays go with a couple
hundred men in the room, and I've talked about you
can be a male without being a man. A male
just tells you you know who you are. A from
a DNA perspective, being a man. They are attributes and
characteristics that come with being a man. Being responsible, being accountable,
(25:52):
being self sacrificing, serving, not just leading. These are characteristics
of being a man. Being a male may be reproductive.
It may be having a good time on Saturday nights,
but not showing up on Sunday mornings. Being a man
says you show up Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday. It's twenty four hours a day, seven days
(26:14):
a week, three sixty five. That's how a man becomes
a father. A mail does not necessarily do so.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
The book is One Nation Always under God, profiles in
Christian courage. We're talking to Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina.
All Right, these are big issues, these are important issues,
but I'm about to put you on the real hot seat.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Who's going to be better this year? South Carolina or Clemson.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Listen?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I know that the polls I can already tell. That's
a good politician answer to start with. Listen.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
For those of you who don't know both both hope,
let me tell people. South Carolina game costs expect to
be very good. Clemson Tigers also expect to be very good.
The biggest rivalry in the state of South Carolina. Okay,
that's the backlog. Now you can dive in.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Thank you brother, it's plenty of park lay. I know
the poll suggests that Clemson's going to be better. One
pole has them at number six. They have South Carolina
at nineteen. As a lifelong game Cox fan, yes, I'm
a crazy politician, I'm just going to tell you the
truth and where I stand. The game Cocks are going
to have a better season. I know it because Shane Beemer.
He's the man, the myth, and he will be the legend.
(27:20):
And as a result of that, he will coach his
team to a nine to three record. And the Clipson
Tigers they're going to stumble a couple of times and
they will end up around eight and four, eight and three.
The difference, of course, is we play in the SEC.
They play in the ACC. We're not talking basketball, we're
talking football.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
That's actually I thought you would dodge it. I didn't
think you would pick a side. So I've impressed. But
I love Shane Beemer, really good dude, the head coach
at South Carolina. I also like Dabo, but I know
Shane biemerl Lenora sellers. For those of you out there
who do not know, fabulous quarterback for South Carolina. What
should people know about him? Getting ready for about three
(28:05):
weeks from now when Toby's leather you know?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Interesting enough, he turned down more nil money, Yeah, stay
at at Carolina than he could have gotten three to
four million dollars more or someplace else. That tells me.
Number one, he's a South Line boy born and brad.
Number two, he's committed, which is an unusual character characteristic.
We'd like to see him fathers as well, by the way.
And number three, he has a strong run game, but
(28:31):
he's been he's been improving his past game, and that
to me is a quintessential quarterback. Can scramble, but thread
the needle. I don't want him to run too much
because that's how you get injured. I want him to
stay in the pocket, scramble a little bit and hit
that the receiver who's running a ten and out or
a goal post. And when that happens, I think we'll
be having a good season. I know as a critical
(28:53):
of my Clemson Tigers, and I'm going to have some
emails coming in about that. But I gotta just tell you,
I love Dabbo. Jim Clemens is the best president and
a university president and all of America. Clemson's president. But
at the end of the day, a man's got to
be where a man has been his whole life. If
that's the Carolina game got.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know, I actually think and i know there's a
lot of politicians, and I'm sure you've seen it in
your career for sure, who try to thread the needle
and avoid picking aside. I actually think sports fans appreciate
someone who picks the side more because the traditional politician
tries to avoid it. Hey, I hope the book does
really well. I appreciate you coming on with us. You
got an open invite anytime you want to come on
(29:34):
and keep up the fighting.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Thank you. Clearing Man. One Nation's Always on the God
available right now at Amazon.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Amen, go check it out. That is Senator Tim Scott.
I'll take some of your calls. Will react really good
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Speaker 1 (31:21):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. My thanks
to everybody out there who has joined us so far today.
Marsha Blackburn, Michael Wattley and Tim Scott and uh those
are really fun. You can go check them out on
the podcast. You can also go check out our YouTube
channel where I did. I started off this hour, I believe,
(31:43):
telling you about a mystery series, espionage thriller Mick Heron
why I liked it, and the American Revolutionary book that
I am watching. Inevitably, I'm gonna get email saying hey,
can you just email me individually and let me know
about these books.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Go to YouTube. It's right up there.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You'll see me talking about it for ten minutes, me
telling you what these books are, why I like them.
YouTube only so you have to go to the Clay
and Buck YouTube page and you can see me giving
you book recommendations.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
There.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
We're gonna be doing a bunch of fun original things
that are only taking place there.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Okay, I thought we had a bunch of serious discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I appreciate it deluged with emails and calls and all
of that, but I thought we could finish with some
funny things here. You can also update me, guys quickly
here while we're playing these clips, if there's anybody still waiting.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But first, this is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Diana Diana Diana Tarassi, whose name I probably messed up.
She is complaining that she was not paid enough money.
This is I would just say, in general, I don't
understand who advises the w NBA players, but boy, oh boy,
every time they're interviewed, they managed to make themselves sound
(32:57):
less likable. She says, hey, the jan or was making
more money than me. This is unacceptable.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Here she is, I'm the best player in the world,
and I have to go to a communist country to
get paid like a capitalist.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Playing in Europe during the WNBA's off season, these women
were going for seven or eight months.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
They were chasing their value.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
We weren't making that much money.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
So generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league, in worse conditions
against the best competition in the world. The janitor at
arena made more than me.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Okay, I don't know if you heard there at the end,
the effing janitor at the arena made more than me.
The janitor is more valuable his skill set, if that
is true, is actually providing something that his employer values.
The WNBA, to this day has never made a dollar make.
(34:00):
Suring us that you are not being paid enough while
demeaning what a janitor makes as if he's not worthy
of his salary, is not the way to convince me
that I should be a fan of the WNBA. It's
as if they are doing exactly what they shouldn't be
to try to build a bigger fan base. Pay us
(34:20):
what you owe us. Well, actually you would be paying
the owners if that were the case, because your league
has never made money. I don't get it. It is
so tone deaf. But anyway, that is a new Amazon special.
Go ahead and put it on your viewing list. This
was CBS news CBS this morning, they had Neil Degrass
(34:41):
taught Tyson on and he says that he's talking about
colonizing the Moon, which is kind of a fun science
fiction e topic, and the guy who is interviewing him says, well,
should we be worried about colonizing the Moon because we
know how.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Awful colonial is them worked out? This is real.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
This is what you heard if you were watching CBS
this morning, cut twenty six.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
If we want to keep growing a population, or if
we want to live forever, all right, we're going to
need We're gonna need another planet. So is that the Moon?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Because A, I don't want to live on the moon,
right it.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Is it would serve as a functional life source eventually
for human beings, and B we know how the age
of colonialism worked on this planet. Should we be trying
to colonize and saying that there's a keepout zone that
not other countries can participate in?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Well, I mean the real problem.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
With the colonization history in Western civilization is that there
are people already there right right, There are no moon
beings that were just placing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I mean, can you imagine watching that the start? First
of all, I don't know who watches these morning shows
because we played the clip where they said Sidney Sweeney
is a Nazi. But can you imagine hearing the question, Hey,
should we really be interested in doing this, because hey,
colonialism worked out poorly.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
By the way, the colonies is actually.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
A really good thing. Is like, nobody wants to discuss
that bringing Western civilization to the rest of the world
has actually benefited the rest of the world immensely. I'm
actually very pro Western civilization. I think more people should
be in favor of it publicly. Lewis in Birmingham, Alabama.
Let's close it out with him, te and off on me.
Lewis what you got?
Speaker 10 (36:28):
I think Ley lewis from Birmingham, w e erc one
O five point five. I get tickled whenever I hear
you try to pronounce things and you don't get it right.
Today it was Addis Ababa, which is the capital of Ethiopia,
not a de sad whatever you said any what? Oh
it gives me tickle anyway, thick fan, Let's keep up
(36:50):
the great work.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Thanks mind apologies Ethiopia
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