May 26, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Klay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I went to go see Denzel Washington Jay Gillenhall in Othello.
That was an incredible experience, really cool to see one
of the greatest actors of his generation in Denzel Washington
playing the title role in a Broadway performance in a
theater that does not see that many people, where you
could really experience the incredible talent of someone of Denzel
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Washington's ability. That was really fun. I wanted to find
something to do. I was in New York City, solo weather.
It was awful. I had to be up super early
in the morning, so I don't want to go out
late any for dinner or any sort of events on
Friday or Saturday, because the alarm's going off at four
fifteen in the morning, and so I knew I had
to be up early. I had to be fresh, I
had to be good on television for four hours, so
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I didn't want to do anything late. I went to
a matinee for Othello on Saturday. To the extent that
any of you have trips coming up, I think that
is running until mid June. I thought it was extra ordinary,
really impressive. I'm glad that I went, But I also
went to Good Night and Good Luck, which is George
Clooney's play about Edward R. Murrow and the idea being
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that media should hold powerful people accountable. And it goes
back in time, and you guys know, I'm a history nerd.
It goes back in time to the era of the
House on American Activities Committee with the Junior Senator as
he keeps calling him from Wisconsin and everything surrounding that
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entire McCarthy era what was and was not communist infiltration
in America, And Clooney plays Edward R. Murrow, and the
journalists are the story and the heroes of this entire play.
And it goes back to again nineteen fifties era America
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with the McCarthy hearings that are going on in the
Senate and Murrow, George Clooney's character plays the nineteen fifties
crusading journalist Edward R. Murrow who was trying to stand
up to McCarthy and ends up in a really contentious
relationship before eventually McCarthy is brought down by some of
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the overreach of his investigation and the CBS news journalists
in general are the stars of the play, you guys know,
making fun of myself. I don't like musicals, so I
was not gonna go see any musical. But A Fellow
is great, and I didn't dislike Goodnight and good Luck.
So if some of you are going on vacation or
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some of you are listening to us on woor, you're
going to be in New York. I didn't have any
issues with the play itself. But at the end of
the play, as George Clooney is delivering a monologue, they
start behind him to show a lot of different media
coverage since then nineteen fifties, and so they show John F.
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Kennedy being assassinated. They show Walter Cronkite reacting to it,
if I remember correctly, they show on up Reagan Berlin
Wall being torn down, the nineteen nineties era CNN coverage
of the First Gulf War, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton,
Monica Lewinsky, all of the things that the media has covered.
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And as Clooney is delivering a monologue, he is saying
that there's a line in the play where the CBS
executive says, well, at some point, what if there isn't
an Edward R. Murrow. They're fighting for what the truth
is and they're trying to indict both sides. There are
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clips as the as the cavalcade of imagery continues, there
are clips from Fox News, from MSNBC. To their credit,
they even include the defense of Joe Biden's mental acuity
as evidence of why you shouldn't trust the media, and
that runs all the way up to the present day.
Of course, they take shots at Fox News over dominion
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and all those different things. Again, it's sort of a
matrix like blanket of television imagery behind Clooney as he
is delivering his closing monologue in the guise of Edward R. Murrow,
and then it ends. The very final image that you
see is of Elon Musk not tapping his chest and
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then trying to gesture to all of the people in
the crowd to say thank you from the bottom of
my heart, which is what Musk was trying to do.
It doesn't show you the tapping on the chest. It
only shows him doing what was described in the media
as a Nazi salute, and so it freezes on Musk
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for the entire theater to see and everyone, by and
large two third seventy five percent of the audience gasps,
as if, oh, my goodness, look at how far America
has fallen that Elon Musk is doing a Nazi salute
on the state in front of all these people. Except
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it's not true, and we talked about this back in January. Again,
he taps his heart, and I'll admit, somewhat awkwardly, is
trying to salute the different parts of the arena, as
public speakers might do. But the way they clipped it,
they left it with him giving what they were clearly
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intending to show to be a Nazi salute, and the
crowd gasps. And I just found it to be such
a fascinating window into this sort of New York City
liberal mind. And I would love to talk. I'm sure
they won't come on. I'll have producer Ali invite whoever
did the screenwriting for the play, whatever you call the play,
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right I guess, or George Clooney himself, to try to
explain what their intent is, because the entire message of
the play is be careful trusting the media and people
in positions of authority, because they can easily play on
your emotions and lead you astray, and then The play
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itself ends with George Clooney's play insinuating that Elon Musk
gave a Nazi salute, which he didn't actually do, and
all of the emotional reaction from inside of the play is, oh,
my goodness, can you believe what this awful right wing
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Elon Musk is doing. We've allowed an actual Nazi to
ascend into some position of power. And what I find
so incredibly intriguing about this is, on a beneficial, generous
reading of this, it's actually the playwrights ridiculing the vast
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majority of the audience that is watching the play. Because
you can make an argument I don't think it's a
crazy one that they're actually satirizing, mocking the fact that
all of these people think they're above being played for
fools by the media. You can make that read, and
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if they did it, it's somewhat diabolical, and it's lacerating
in its penetrating criticism of the people that think they're
the smart ones and that they're above being played. I
don't think they're doing that, but that's a generous reading
of what the intent was by showing that Elon Musk image.
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More likely, I think George Clooney and all of the
other leftists involved in putting on this play are lighting
the entire message of their play on fire by using
an image that doesn't refer colet what it actually was
in an effort to try to demonstrate how dangerous unchecked
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government can be. And in actuality, they did an entire
play talking about how great it is that the media
could hold powerful people accountable, and then at the end
of the play they undercut the entire message of the
play by showing that modern media is actually incapable of
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giving an honest portrayal and recitation of what's truly happening
in the country, and the vast majority of the people
in that audience had no earthly idea what the total
context of the Musk salute was. And I think it's
incredibly important to talk about this and hold them accountable.
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Elon Musk has responded to the tweets that I put out.
I'll share what Elon Musk said, but in a larger context,
some of you were saying, well, I don't know why
you would pay to go see a George Clooney play.
I do it for the same reason that I read
The New York Times in the Washington Post every morning.
I don't think you strengthen your own arguments without confronting
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the arguments that others are making. I am confident that
I could make left wing arguments better than most of
left wingers because I study and read them more. The
reason why I make the arguments to you every single
day is because I'm confident they're the best arguments. But
you can't cover up your ears and run and hide
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from popular culture. You have to engage with it in
order to be able to win arguments. I would argue
one reason why left wingers have started to do so
poorly when they're actually questioned is because they live in
an ecosystem that never challenges the basics of their opinion.
Which is why I think Ron to say, wipe the
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floor with Governor Gavin Newsom of California, if you remember
in the Sean Hannity debate that those guys had because
Newsom is not used to being pressed, because he lives
in a world where the media bathes him in adulation
all the time. Me many of you, a lot of
us who have sought out our own experiences to reach
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the conclusions and the opinions that we have we've had
to grapple with and consider left wing opinion in a
way that they never consider right wing opinions. I'm going
to open up the phone lines, but I wanted to
share that experience with you, because if I hadn't gone,
I don't know that very many people would be talking
about something like this at all. And I also thought
that gasp, that moment when the audience gasped as if
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Elon Musk were an actual Nazi, was so revealing because
they buy into things that are beyond a shadow of
a doubt, not actually remotely true, and someone like George
Clooney profits off it while lecturing all of us about
the importance of trust and media. I just it was
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such an interesting moment for me on Friday night when
I was watching that play and I had that moment,
that shocking revelation of the Nazi salute, which wasn't actually
a Nazi salute, but I felt like I might have
been the only guy in the entire theater who knew
the full context of that, and I felt like it
was so profoundly dishonest by Clooney and everyone who was
involved in the play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Dave.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
McCormick, senator from Pennsylvania, and his lovely wife Dina Powell.
We were at the wrestling event in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the
NCAA Championships there and so I want to start there
with you, Senator McCormick, because you wrote a great op
ed about wrestling and the lessons that it can send
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and give to Americans everywhere. Wall Street Journal published it.
Did you think of the reception of President Trump and
what did you learn and glean from that opportunity to
watch that event with him? It was pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well when that saying, well, thanks Clay, it was so
great to have you there and to be with Dina
and President Trump. I had asked him right after the
right after the campaign, right after the election, whether he come,
and he said absolutely because he had the penn State
wrestling team had been supportive of him and wrestlings in
the bloodstream of Pennsylvania. It's a big deal. But boy,
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what a representation I think of all that's great about America.
The op ed said hard work, it said resilience, it
said toughness, couraging in the ring, and we saw it
all that night, and President Trump loved it. He walked
in the arena and the place went crazy, as you know,
and all the wrestlers wanted selfies with him when they
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when they got their awards. But the best thing was
the last match, a huge upset. An Air Force Academy
graduate beat the Olympic gold medalist. The place went crazy.
The guy stood up and saluted the President. I need
this was like, this was made for Hollywood. It couldn't
have been better.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Hey, David's Buck, thanks for being here. We're going to
talk in a moment about your book with your wife Dina,
who believed in you, how purposeful mentorship changes the world.
You get a lot of very big name luminaries. I
guess that's a good way to put it to people
who are huge in their various fields and industries. But
I do have to ask you first, if you don't mind,
I'm curious. You were CEO of Bridgewater, which is a
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huge hedge fund, you know markets, you know, global finance.
Is this terriffying crazy or what?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
People are worried, some of them. I feel like maybe
thirty percent of our audience is worried about it. Thirty
percent is you know, is totally in favor and maybe
you know forty percent is somewhere in between. So what
do you think.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, let me give you three quick points on this.
I'll be brief, but point number one is this is
one chapter of President Trump's economic agenda. There's deregulation, there's
energy dominance, there's extension of the tax cuts, there's foreign
direct investment trillions coming in, and the tariffs are just
part of that. And they're gonna be a little bumpy,
as he said, for the long term game, that's gonna
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be a little bumpy to start with. Second, this is
designed to solve a real problem. It's a huge problem,
which is the global trading system has been unfair to
American companies, has been unfair to America. I saw it
in my hometown in Pennsylvania. We had a carpet mill
when I was growing up, two thousand employees. It's got
two hundred now because of unfair trading practices around the world.
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So we've got to fix that. President comes committed to
fixing that for American businesses, for working families. The tariffs
he rolled out. Point three, set the ceiling. There's lots
that we don't understand I'm still digesting it myself, frankly,
but what we do know is those are a ceiling
and that the now the negotiations begin, and the goal
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is to have fair trading practices, American businesses are treated
fairly and to get key industries back in the United States,
and I think we're on a path to that, but
to take a while to get there.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Let's bring in your wife too, who's done good work. Buck.
Just reference the book which is trying to encourage mentorship.
Whatever you do in life, it's important to have someone
who can help provide you a pathway to get there.
Why did you want to tell this story, Dina, And
what do you think Americans should take Because there's a
lot of people out there. When you get into your forties,
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your fifties, your sixties, a lot of people that are
listening to us, and you can do it younger ages
as well. People can have tremendous differences, but there is
I think a desire to give back and help to
impart some of what you've learned. What did you learn
while writing this book and what was the goal?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Well, thank you so much Clay for having me on.
I'm so honored to be on with you and Clay
with you and Buck my first time on the show.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I do have to.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Tell your audience that being with you at the Ohio
State Penn State football game, being at that tailgate, you
were way more famous than the potential senator.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
With college football fans, they've gotten used to me a
little bit. So that was an awesome day that we had.
But thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You know, Dave and I actually wrote this book during COVID.
We have six daughters between us college age now and
out of college, and we realized that they lost so
much more than high school proms and graduations. They lost
three years of human connectivity. And if you think about
the seminal nature of those first three years when you're graduating,
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your first job, your first mentor your first boss. And
we thought they'd really missed a lot. And we started
to tell them about the people that had believed in
me and Dave. We certainly wouldn't be where we are
without those people. And I'm sure you and Buck have
a couple of people that without whom you wouldn't have
found your purpose. And we really started to talk to
them about the fact that we all really are on
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this planet to find God's purpose for our life, and
we need help finding that. And so we started asking
other people we admired, from Governor Sarah Huckabee to the
CEO of Microsoft to fashion designer Tory Birch and chef
David Chang and Steve Schwarzman, and every one of them
had somebody that changed their life, without whom they would
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not be the successful people that they are today. And
I'll just finally say, we hope this book is just
the beginning. You were so gracious to tell your story
on our trailer along with Michael Dell and Ben Shapiro
and Charlie Kirk. We want more people to go to
who believed in you dot com tell your story, And
really the whole point is to ignite a new mentoring
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movement in the country where we believe that investing in
one person who can be a great leader will make
a stronger America.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Gleay, Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Block has gotten fired up about this because he can't
believe that it's real. Some of you may have seen this.
I believe it was Monday night the Atlanta Braves are
playing the Toronto Blue Jays, and the Braves broadcast has
a basically sideline reporter who is a young, you know,
good looking guy who is working the sideline and he
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is interviewing two different girls, cute blonde girls in the
crowd who appear to be Braves fans. I believe here
is what it sounded like. This is cut twenty four.
The video is out. We'll post it at clayanbuck dot com.
If you have not seen this, this has gone megaviral.
But here is what it sounded like. If you were
watching this baseball game Monday night.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
We had a lot of fun out here off the
Corona rooftop. Who do we got you? What's your name?
My name is Lauren Laurence. All right, and I'm Kayla Kayla,
And you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often once
a year I come out to visit. Okay, we timed
it pretty well. All right? Good? How are you guys
feeling my roof for the Braves today? I don't know.
I'm hoping for the best. What about you? Are you
Braves fan?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Not?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Quiet?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Quiet?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys.
Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers. Come on,
come on, get us some more braves fans. All right,
So they want me to get your number. I'm dead serious,
they say to my right, I shouldn't believe me because
she thinks you guys are are not making this up.
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Even if you guys weren't, I might use that in
the future. That's a pretty good move.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay. So it continues. You can hear the girl in
the background saying they want you to get my number,
and he ends up getting one of these girl's phone numbers.
It goes viral and Buck, you have seen the reaction
and you've been texting me. I sent it to you
because I was like, I think you'll enjoy this. Many
members of the sports media have lost their mind. They
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are saying this is misogynistic. They are saying this is
completely unprofessional. You've seen the reactions. Can you believe the
reactions to that lighthearted clip that we just played for you.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Claig knows he can do this because he tells me,
but I don't. As you all know, I don't pay
any attention to the sports media commentary. World really, So
I just this is like it's as though Clay's telling
me about the latest Broadway theater critics or something. I
just don't follow them, so I don't know. And he goes, oh, no,
you don't understand how woke they are, and he sends
me this stuff and it's like throwing steak in the
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lion den. I completely freak out because all I can
think about is the sports media does this? Of all
the media to do this, the people that are talking
about guys, you know, swinging bats and throwing balls and
doing all this stuff and making all this money. And
you know, some of them have cheerleaders on the sidelines
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or you know, dancers at halftime.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
They're free.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's in my mind. Even though he tells me, my
mind continues to be blown because it's I don't even
know as possible, Clay, what a killjoy? I mean, who could?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If you can't you, I will read you a couple
of reactions. Yeah, because some of you don't know. This
is a woman named Danny Sirek. She is on the sideline,
someway or doing something. So are we still gonna ask
women in sports if they're only doing their job? To date? Athletes.
We can all agree how inappropriate and nasty. This is
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not to mention the double standard. Right, these are not athletes,
these are girls in the stands. Right, But this is
a sportsman. Here's a man. This is a man who
writes Ostensibly that means we have to.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Put a man? Do we have to put man in quotes? Well,
this is a guy. Can we send him some chalk?
Because the tea levels, I'm telling you, sub medical grade.
You're gonna hear this near Ostensibly, this is a man.
Ralph Vacciano tweets, you just heard this clip an unprofessional
disgrace from the reporter, to the guys in the booth,
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to the producer in the truck, who could have stopped.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
At any point. It's not fun, it's not cool, it's
not harmless, and it's only a standard for harassment. This
is a guy who covers sports like I feel my
estrogen level rising just from listening to this. I cannot
respond there were a bunch of these guys in these
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girls who lose their mind. I have been arguing that. Frankly,
I found that a company based on it. The disconnect
between the average sports fan and the average sports media
member is more substantial than the disconnect between media and
any other group that consumes their content anywhere. And let
me hit you at this buck and this is my
overall thesis. If you cover a game for a living,
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that is your job is to watch people play something,
with very very few exceptions. Because there are some people
who are like, hey, I'm a sports reporter, but I
also cover trials so there could be criminal cases, or
I'm a sports business reporter and I'm focused on the
valuation of franchise things like that. But if you cover
the game itself, your job is to make someone like
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something that they already like like it more. And if
you don't do that, you're doing something wrong because your
job is to talk about a sport. Here's what I
think is really happening. I think these people everyone who
criticize this Braves reporter, I think voted for Kamala Harris
overwhelmingly they hate fun. I also think so many people
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in sports media are insecure because they're grown ups who
cover a game, and instead of embracing the fun, they
feel like they have to convince people that they're capable
sitting at the big kids table, and so they wildly
overanalyze the significance of relatively fun not very significant moments.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Clay, if a single guy can't take his shot and
ask a pretty lady for her phone number, I don't
even know what country we live in anymore. It's definitely
not America.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
This is the entire basis for how every human gets together, right,
Every baby on some level required most of the time.
Sometimes girls get numbers. Most of the time it's guys
requires a guy to ask a girl for her phone number? Right,
This is the foundation of all of our existences.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
The funniest thing is you can always tell when people
ask rhetorical questions and the rhetorical question is obviously wrong
and stupid, meaning they think that it's like, oh, what
would have happened if a woman had asked a guy
if the rolls were the guy would be doing backflips?
What are you talking about? An attractive female say if
he's single, and if you're not, you just say I'm married,
or you say I have a girlfriend. But if a
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single if an attractive sideline reporter came up to Clay
pre Laura or Buck pre Carrie and was like, hey, like,
can I have your phone number? I promise you we
wouldn't have been.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, I feel so harassed. It would be the greatest
moment of every guy's life. Now, women don't think about
this in the same way as men, because if you're
in a attractive woman, you are being pursued by men
every moment of your life, right, I mean, this is
the reality. You go to the grocery store a good
looking guy, I mean, you're a good looking girl, A
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guy might hit on you right Like you're at the gym.
Wherever you are, there are men who are pursuing you.
This is how biology works. By and large, you might
not like the guys that are pursuing you, but the
idea buck to your point. If a pretty girl in
the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy
and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here. You
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should ask him for his phone number, and he got
the phone number, every guy in America would be like,
this is the coolest thing that ever happened. They're not
gonna rip the girl.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
This is a hero moment.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Everybody would say it was really cool of the girl
to take the to make the move, and you know,
the guy is the luckiest guy we've seen how you
sort of get into this. How are people supposed to
meet people?
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Right? What is now?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
That?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Is it all just it's only algorithms online where you're
you're you know, you're at arms distance and you don't
actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting
somebody or actually talking to them. I mean what I Clay,
when you sent me that, I swear I kept reading
through it and it was just like, my, my, Fortunately
I have a lot of hair, but I was pulling
the hair out of my head. I could not understand.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Is the only sports media site in the entire country
that will say, there's nothing wrong with this? This is good,
lighthearted face.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I mean to me, this is almost like, you know,
at the end of a local news cast, they'll do like, oh,
like a local mallard in the park, you know, lost
one of her something happy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To try to send people off into their day. Yes,
this is like a happy.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
End of newscast kind of story. It's like, oh and
she found her baby duckling yay, you know see tomorrow everybody. Uh,
this is like a nice, happy story. It's cute. Look,
maybe she gave him a fake number. Look, maybe it
doesn't go to It doesn't matter. It's a nice little exchange. Obviously,
people think this this woman that he's asking, you know,
is an attractive young woman, and it's all I just
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this is like a It's like Shakespeare in comedy. It's like,
this is the sort of thing that in Western civilization
we'd all sit around and smile about it and be like, oh,
isn't that fun and killjoy. Sports reporters think that it
undermines the seriousness of women in the industry or something
like are they just because nobody watched the WNBA draft Clay? Like, what,
what is the problem here?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates
to them dating a player or an athlete. This is
not the same thing at all, thing to do with that,
not even remotely close. And also it's just a desperate
desire to make yourself a victim. Something nice happens on television,
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you know what. I already tweeted this, but this is
not going to surprise you. I would if I own
the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy. I
would have them go on a date at a game.
I would have a reporter signed to cover the date
during the course of the during the course of the broadcast.
You know this because you've done this show long enough
for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I
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do is to do it even more aggressively. Like some
people are like, oh, you know what, I'll take a
step back. I'm like, we're going to go faster, even
faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into
this because I think what it does, and this was
the basic foundation of OutKick is I think that much
of social media, as BS, I think that a lot
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of what people say there is not representative of the
real world. And if you allow yourself to be governed
by what people say on social media, you end up
making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand, for
your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made for
a long time, and I think I'm being proven more
right every single day, is it would be like buck
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back in the day, remember those funny mirrors when you
would go to a carnival and some of them make
you look super fat and some of them make you
look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your diet
based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your overall
life would be. I think that's the story of media.
I think media used social media as a representative, honest
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reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their
coverage as of a result, and I think they lit
themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it. Certainly, we
saw it in Sports without Kick and sanity's returning. But
every time we have one of these blow ups, I
look at the comments like you did, and I just
I feel like I'm living in a different world than
the reality of the day to day existence that I see.
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It's still it is.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's one of those things where I didn't think we
would really talk about this because it would only be
you know, there's some people who, you know, they'll get
mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what
can relax? You take a deep breath. They're like, oh,
I'm sorry, mister big deep breath.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh you got mad at you. And you were like, hey,
you know what you should do more of walk? And
people are like, oh, you're so such an elitist. Look
at you able to see radio hosts with your walking
daily you know, I swear I'm not kidding. There were
a bunch of people that were attacking me like, sorry,
some of us have jobs that don't I'm like, don't
allow you to find any time in the day to
go for a walk anywhere. Okay, I mean I'm sorry
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you work in like the Fox con iPhone factory. This
is like me and I've said this to my boys
a lot, like, hey, you can do push ups anywhere.
I understand everybody doesn't have a fat, fancy gym membership,
but you can do push ups and sit ups pretty
much anywhere. I mean, people in jail sales get ripped
because they just sit around and do push ups and
sit ups all day. You can walk anywhere pretty much
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unless you either.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
People that want to be bitter about everything was my point,
and you'll find that on the internet.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They just want to be bitter.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
But people that make a living commenting on sports, instead
of seeing this as a viral clip and something that
can bring everyone together, a lot of a lot plays
point is it's not that a cup a lot of
them were attacking this twenty thirty people with substantial audiences
like this is unacceptable?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How dare this be allowed to occur? Real people are
so nuts? There's more totally nuts. It is it is crazy. Anyway,
if you're a single guy, go ask a pretty girl
for her phone number, and hopefully you'll have kids one
day and that will be the foundation of your Or.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
If we're if you're a nice young woman and you
find a guy who's single and you think he's cute,
ask him. I promise you if he's not going to
be offended, he's not going to be offended. You're not
going to be offended. I promise you could be like, oh,
dare you?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
How dare you? Madam?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
One of the most intimidating things that any man ever
has to do is ask a pretty girl for her
phone number, her contact information, because it sets you up
for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom everybody
who's ever been to a dance, men have to ask overwhelmingly. Yeah,
if you're a pretty girl and you like a guy,
go for it. But I got my battleship. I got
my battleship sunk plenty of times before I got married.
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And you know what build's character.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
We got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.
I'll be figured this would to get you guys fired up.
A A Henry from New York a w R listener.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Play it on this sad day, which is tax day.
Listening to you two guys makes the painless intense. So
I think you like the antidote the tax that's what
you want.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Tax antidote there, Hey man, Clay, that's high praise, right,
we'll take that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I wish we could be the tax antidote because anyway,
it's just crazy. I know a lot of you were
having tears in your eyes almost as she stroked those
checks yesterday.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We like Clay, and I like to think that we're
a spoonful of sugar that helps the tax day go down.
You know what I mean? Here we go uh bb
Pam from Anchorage, Alaska A k E N I listener
up there, play it?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Congratulations, fucking carry on the baby.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I was just gonna ask how Ginger is doing.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
What does Ginger think of sweet baby James.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
She it's a great question. She is fascinated. She has
come over and given little sniffs and little smooches to
like the baby's feet when we held You know, we're
careful because Ginger still an animal, and I know that
you know you got it, but she's fascinated. She's a
little sweet doggie and she loves our little She thinks
it's like a little alien. I can tell, but she
likes the little alien. So so far, so good, good
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on all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Clay
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with
Klay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I went to go see Denzel Washington Jay Gillenhall in Othello.
That was an incredible experience, really cool to see one
of the greatest actors of his generation in Denzel Washington
playing the title role in a Broadway performance in a
theater that does not see that many people, where you
could really experience the incredible talent of someone of Denzel
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Washington's ability. That was really fun. I wanted to find
something to do. I was in New York City, solo weather.
It was awful. I had to be up super early
in the morning, so I don't want to go out
late any for dinner or any sort of events on
Friday or Saturday, because the alarm's going off at four
fifteen in the morning, and so I knew I had
to be up early. I had to be fresh, I
had to be good on television for four hours, so
(00:51):
I didn't want to do anything late. I went to
a matinee for Othello on Saturday. To the extent that
any of you have trips coming up, I think that
is running until mid June. I thought it was extra ordinary,
really impressive. I'm glad that I went, But I also
went to Good Night and Good Luck, which is George
Clooney's play about Edward R. Murrow and the idea being
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that media should hold powerful people accountable. And it goes
back in time, and you guys know, I'm a history nerd.
It goes back in time to the era of the
House on American Activities Committee with the Junior Senator as
he keeps calling him from Wisconsin and everything surrounding that
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entire McCarthy era what was and was not communist infiltration
in America, And Clooney plays Edward R. Murrow, and the
journalists are the story and the heroes of this entire play.
And it goes back to again nineteen fifties era America
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with the McCarthy hearings that are going on in the
Senate and Murrow, George Clooney's character plays the nineteen fifties
crusading journalist Edward R. Murrow who was trying to stand
up to McCarthy and ends up in a really contentious
relationship before eventually McCarthy is brought down by some of
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the overreach of his investigation and the CBS news journalists
in general are the stars of the play, you guys know,
making fun of myself. I don't like musicals, so I
was not gonna go see any musical. But A Fellow
is great, and I didn't dislike Goodnight and good Luck.
So if some of you are going on vacation or
(02:39):
some of you are listening to us on woor, you're
going to be in New York. I didn't have any
issues with the play itself. But at the end of
the play, as George Clooney is delivering a monologue, they
start behind him to show a lot of different media
coverage since then nineteen fifties, and so they show John F.
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Kennedy being assassinated. They show Walter Cronkite reacting to it,
if I remember correctly, they show on up Reagan Berlin
Wall being torn down, the nineteen nineties era CNN coverage
of the First Gulf War, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton,
Monica Lewinsky, all of the things that the media has covered.
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And as Clooney is delivering a monologue, he is saying
that there's a line in the play where the CBS
executive says, well, at some point, what if there isn't
an Edward R. Murrow. They're fighting for what the truth
is and they're trying to indict both sides. There are
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clips as the as the cavalcade of imagery continues, there
are clips from Fox News, from MSNBC. To their credit,
they even include the defense of Joe Biden's mental acuity
as evidence of why you shouldn't trust the media, and
that runs all the way up to the present day.
Of course, they take shots at Fox News over dominion
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and all those different things. Again, it's sort of a
matrix like blanket of television imagery behind Clooney as he
is delivering his closing monologue in the guise of Edward R. Murrow,
and then it ends. The very final image that you
see is of Elon Musk not tapping his chest and
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then trying to gesture to all of the people in
the crowd to say thank you from the bottom of
my heart, which is what Musk was trying to do.
It doesn't show you the tapping on the chest. It
only shows him doing what was described in the media
as a Nazi salute, and so it freezes on Musk
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for the entire theater to see and everyone, by and
large two third seventy five percent of the audience gasps,
as if, oh, my goodness, look at how far America
has fallen that Elon Musk is doing a Nazi salute
on the state in front of all these people. Except
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it's not true, and we talked about this back in January. Again,
he taps his heart, and I'll admit, somewhat awkwardly, is
trying to salute the different parts of the arena, as
public speakers might do. But the way they clipped it,
they left it with him giving what they were clearly
(05:37):
intending to show to be a Nazi salute, and the
crowd gasps. And I just found it to be such
a fascinating window into this sort of New York City
liberal mind. And I would love to talk. I'm sure
they won't come on. I'll have producer Ali invite whoever
did the screenwriting for the play, whatever you call the play,
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right I guess, or George Clooney himself, to try to
explain what their intent is, because the entire message of
the play is be careful trusting the media and people
in positions of authority, because they can easily play on
your emotions and lead you astray, and then The play
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itself ends with George Clooney's play insinuating that Elon Musk
gave a Nazi salute, which he didn't actually do, and
all of the emotional reaction from inside of the play is, oh,
my goodness, can you believe what this awful right wing
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Elon Musk is doing. We've allowed an actual Nazi to
ascend into some position of power. And what I find
so incredibly intriguing about this is, on a beneficial, generous
reading of this, it's actually the playwrights ridiculing the vast
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majority of the audience that is watching the play. Because
you can make an argument I don't think it's a
crazy one that they're actually satirizing, mocking the fact that
all of these people think they're above being played for
fools by the media. You can make that read, and
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if they did it, it's somewhat diabolical, and it's lacerating
in its penetrating criticism of the people that think they're
the smart ones and that they're above being played. I
don't think they're doing that, but that's a generous reading
of what the intent was by showing that Elon Musk image.
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More likely, I think George Clooney and all of the
other leftists involved in putting on this play are lighting
the entire message of their play on fire by using
an image that doesn't refer colet what it actually was
in an effort to try to demonstrate how dangerous unchecked
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government can be. And in actuality, they did an entire
play talking about how great it is that the media
could hold powerful people accountable, and then at the end
of the play they undercut the entire message of the
play by showing that modern media is actually incapable of
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giving an honest portrayal and recitation of what's truly happening
in the country, and the vast majority of the people
in that audience had no earthly idea what the total
context of the Musk salute was. And I think it's
incredibly important to talk about this and hold them accountable.
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Elon Musk has responded to the tweets that I put out.
I'll share what Elon Musk said, but in a larger context,
some of you were saying, well, I don't know why
you would pay to go see a George Clooney play.
I do it for the same reason that I read
The New York Times in the Washington Post every morning.
I don't think you strengthen your own arguments without confronting
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the arguments that others are making. I am confident that
I could make left wing arguments better than most of
left wingers because I study and read them more. The
reason why I make the arguments to you every single
day is because I'm confident they're the best arguments. But
you can't cover up your ears and run and hide
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from popular culture. You have to engage with it in
order to be able to win arguments. I would argue
one reason why left wingers have started to do so
poorly when they're actually questioned is because they live in
an ecosystem that never challenges the basics of their opinion.
Which is why I think Ron to say, wipe the
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floor with Governor Gavin Newsom of California, if you remember
in the Sean Hannity debate that those guys had because
Newsom is not used to being pressed, because he lives
in a world where the media bathes him in adulation
all the time. Me many of you, a lot of
us who have sought out our own experiences to reach
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the conclusions and the opinions that we have we've had
to grapple with and consider left wing opinion in a
way that they never consider right wing opinions. I'm going
to open up the phone lines, but I wanted to
share that experience with you, because if I hadn't gone,
I don't know that very many people would be talking
about something like this at all. And I also thought
that gasp, that moment when the audience gasped as if
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Elon Musk were an actual Nazi, was so revealing because
they buy into things that are beyond a shadow of
a doubt, not actually remotely true, and someone like George
Clooney profits off it while lecturing all of us about
the importance of trust and media. I just it was
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such an interesting moment for me on Friday night when
I was watching that play and I had that moment,
that shocking revelation of the Nazi salute, which wasn't actually
a Nazi salute, but I felt like I might have
been the only guy in the entire theater who knew
the full context of that, and I felt like it
was so profoundly dishonest by Clooney and everyone who was
involved in the play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Dave.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
McCormick, senator from Pennsylvania, and his lovely wife Dina Powell.
We were at the wrestling event in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the
NCAA Championships there and so I want to start there
with you, Senator McCormick, because you wrote a great op
ed about wrestling and the lessons that it can send
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and give to Americans everywhere. Wall Street Journal published it.
Did you think of the reception of President Trump and
what did you learn and glean from that opportunity to
watch that event with him? It was pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Well when that saying, well, thanks Clay, it was so
great to have you there and to be with Dina
and President Trump. I had asked him right after the
right after the campaign, right after the election, whether he come,
and he said absolutely because he had the penn State
wrestling team had been supportive of him and wrestlings in
the bloodstream of Pennsylvania. It's a big deal. But boy,
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what a representation I think of all that's great about America.
The op ed said hard work, it said resilience, it
said toughness, couraging in the ring, and we saw it
all that night, and President Trump loved it. He walked
in the arena and the place went crazy, as you know,
and all the wrestlers wanted selfies with him when they
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when they got their awards. But the best thing was
the last match, a huge upset. An Air Force Academy
graduate beat the Olympic gold medalist. The place went crazy.
The guy stood up and saluted the President. I need
this was like, this was made for Hollywood. It couldn't
have been better.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Hey, David's Buck, thanks for being here. We're going to
talk in a moment about your book with your wife Dina,
who believed in you, how purposeful mentorship changes the world.
You get a lot of very big name luminaries. I
guess that's a good way to put it to people
who are huge in their various fields and industries. But
I do have to ask you first, if you don't mind,
I'm curious. You were CEO of Bridgewater, which is a
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huge hedge fund, you know markets, you know, global finance.
Is this terriffying crazy or what?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Like?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
People are worried, some of them. I feel like maybe
thirty percent of our audience is worried about it. Thirty
percent is you know, is totally in favor and maybe
you know forty percent is somewhere in between. So what
do you think.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, let me give you three quick points on this.
I'll be brief, but point number one is this is
one chapter of President Trump's economic agenda. There's deregulation, there's
energy dominance, there's extension of the tax cuts, there's foreign
direct investment trillions coming in, and the tariffs are just
part of that. And they're gonna be a little bumpy,
as he said, for the long term game, that's gonna
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be a little bumpy to start with. Second, this is
designed to solve a real problem. It's a huge problem,
which is the global trading system has been unfair to
American companies, has been unfair to America. I saw it
in my hometown in Pennsylvania. We had a carpet mill
when I was growing up, two thousand employees. It's got
two hundred now because of unfair trading practices around the world.
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So we've got to fix that. President comes committed to
fixing that for American businesses, for working families. The tariffs
he rolled out. Point three, set the ceiling. There's lots
that we don't understand I'm still digesting it myself, frankly,
but what we do know is those are a ceiling
and that the now the negotiations begin, and the goal
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is to have fair trading practices, American businesses are treated
fairly and to get key industries back in the United States,
and I think we're on a path to that, but
to take a while to get there.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Let's bring in your wife too, who's done good work. Buck.
Just reference the book which is trying to encourage mentorship.
Whatever you do in life, it's important to have someone
who can help provide you a pathway to get there.
Why did you want to tell this story, Dina, And
what do you think Americans should take Because there's a
lot of people out there. When you get into your forties,
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your fifties, your sixties, a lot of people that are
listening to us, and you can do it younger ages
as well. People can have tremendous differences, but there is
I think a desire to give back and help to
impart some of what you've learned. What did you learn
while writing this book and what was the goal?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Well, thank you so much Clay for having me on.
I'm so honored to be on with you and Clay
with you and Buck my first time on the show.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
I do have to.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Tell your audience that being with you at the Ohio
State Penn State football game, being at that tailgate, you
were way more famous than the potential senator.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
With college football fans, they've gotten used to me a
little bit. So that was an awesome day that we had.
But thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
It really was.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
You know, Dave and I actually wrote this book during COVID.
We have six daughters between us college age now and
out of college, and we realized that they lost so
much more than high school proms and graduations. They lost
three years of human connectivity. And if you think about
the seminal nature of those first three years when you're graduating,
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your first job, your first mentor your first boss. And
we thought they'd really missed a lot. And we started
to tell them about the people that had believed in
me and Dave. We certainly wouldn't be where we are
without those people. And I'm sure you and Buck have
a couple of people that without whom you wouldn't have
found your purpose. And we really started to talk to
them about the fact that we all really are on
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this planet to find God's purpose for our life, and
we need help finding that. And so we started asking
other people we admired, from Governor Sarah Huckabee to the
CEO of Microsoft to fashion designer Tory Birch and chef
David Chang and Steve Schwarzman, and every one of them
had somebody that changed their life, without whom they would
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not be the successful people that they are today. And
I'll just finally say, we hope this book is just
the beginning. You were so gracious to tell your story
on our trailer along with Michael Dell and Ben Shapiro
and Charlie Kirk. We want more people to go to
who believed in you dot com tell your story, And
really the whole point is to ignite a new mentoring
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movement in the country where we believe that investing in
one person who can be a great leader will make
a stronger America.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You're enjoying the Best of program with Gleay, Travis and
Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Block has gotten fired up about this because he can't
believe that it's real. Some of you may have seen this.
I believe it was Monday night the Atlanta Braves are
playing the Toronto Blue Jays, and the Braves broadcast has
a basically sideline reporter who is a young, you know,
good looking guy who is working the sideline and he
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is interviewing two different girls, cute blonde girls in the
crowd who appear to be Braves fans. I believe here
is what it sounded like. This is cut twenty four.
The video is out. We'll post it at clayanbuck dot com.
If you have not seen this, this has gone megaviral.
But here is what it sounded like. If you were
watching this baseball game Monday night.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
We had a lot of fun out here off the
Corona rooftop. Who do we got you? What's your name?
My name is Lauren Laurence. All right, and I'm Kayla Kayla,
And you guys hang out the rooftop lounge often once
a year I come out to visit. Okay, we timed
it pretty well. All right? Good? How are you guys
feeling my roof for the Braves today? I don't know.
I'm hoping for the best. What about you? Are you
Braves fan?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Not?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Quiet?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Quiet?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys.
Good luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers. Come on,
come on, get us some more braves fans. All right,
So they want me to get your number. I'm dead serious,
they say to my right, I shouldn't believe me because
she thinks you guys are are not making this up.
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Even if you guys weren't, I might use that in
the future. That's a pretty good move.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay. So it continues. You can hear the girl in
the background saying they want you to get my number,
and he ends up getting one of these girl's phone numbers.
It goes viral and Buck, you have seen the reaction
and you've been texting me. I sent it to you
because I was like, I think you'll enjoy this. Many
members of the sports media have lost their mind. They
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are saying this is misogynistic. They are saying this is
completely unprofessional. You've seen the reactions. Can you believe the
reactions to that lighthearted clip that we just played for you.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Claig knows he can do this because he tells me,
but I don't. As you all know, I don't pay
any attention to the sports media commentary. World really, So
I just this is like it's as though Clay's telling
me about the latest Broadway theater critics or something. I
just don't follow them, so I don't know. And he goes, oh, no,
you don't understand how woke they are, and he sends
me this stuff and it's like throwing steak in the
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lion den. I completely freak out because all I can
think about is the sports media does this? Of all
the media to do this, the people that are talking
about guys, you know, swinging bats and throwing balls and
doing all this stuff and making all this money. And
you know, some of them have cheerleaders on the sidelines
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or you know, dancers at halftime.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
They're free.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It's in my mind. Even though he tells me, my
mind continues to be blown because it's I don't even
know as possible, Clay, what a killjoy? I mean, who could?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
If you can't you, I will read you a couple
of reactions. Yeah, because some of you don't know. This
is a woman named Danny Sirek. She is on the sideline,
someway or doing something. So are we still gonna ask
women in sports if they're only doing their job? To date? Athletes.
We can all agree how inappropriate and nasty. This is
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not to mention the double standard. Right, these are not athletes,
these are girls in the stands. Right, But this is
a sportsman. Here's a man. This is a man who
writes Ostensibly that means we have to.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Put a man? Do we have to put man in quotes? Well,
this is a guy. Can we send him some chalk?
Because the tea levels, I'm telling you, sub medical grade.
You're gonna hear this near Ostensibly, this is a man.
Ralph Vacciano tweets, you just heard this clip an unprofessional
disgrace from the reporter, to the guys in the booth,
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to the producer in the truck, who could have stopped.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
At any point. It's not fun, it's not cool, it's
not harmless, and it's only a standard for harassment. This
is a guy who covers sports like I feel my
estrogen level rising just from listening to this. I cannot
respond there were a bunch of these guys in these
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girls who lose their mind. I have been arguing that. Frankly,
I found that a company based on it. The disconnect
between the average sports fan and the average sports media
member is more substantial than the disconnect between media and
any other group that consumes their content anywhere. And let
me hit you at this buck and this is my
overall thesis. If you cover a game for a living,
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that is your job is to watch people play something,
with very very few exceptions. Because there are some people
who are like, hey, I'm a sports reporter, but I
also cover trials so there could be criminal cases, or
I'm a sports business reporter and I'm focused on the
valuation of franchise things like that. But if you cover
the game itself, your job is to make someone like
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something that they already like like it more. And if
you don't do that, you're doing something wrong because your
job is to talk about a sport. Here's what I
think is really happening. I think these people everyone who
criticize this Braves reporter, I think voted for Kamala Harris
overwhelmingly they hate fun. I also think so many people
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in sports media are insecure because they're grown ups who
cover a game, and instead of embracing the fun, they
feel like they have to convince people that they're capable
sitting at the big kids table, and so they wildly
overanalyze the significance of relatively fun not very significant moments.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Clay, if a single guy can't take his shot and
ask a pretty lady for her phone number, I don't
even know what country we live in anymore. It's definitely
not America.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
This is the entire basis for how every human gets together, right,
Every baby on some level required most of the time.
Sometimes girls get numbers. Most of the time it's guys
requires a guy to ask a girl for her phone number? Right,
This is the foundation of all of our existences.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
The funniest thing is you can always tell when people
ask rhetorical questions and the rhetorical question is obviously wrong
and stupid, meaning they think that it's like, oh, what
would have happened if a woman had asked a guy
if the rolls were the guy would be doing backflips?
What are you talking about? An attractive female say if
he's single, and if you're not, you just say I'm married,
or you say I have a girlfriend. But if a
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single if an attractive sideline reporter came up to Clay
pre Laura or Buck pre Carrie and was like, hey, like,
can I have your phone number? I promise you we
wouldn't have been.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, I feel so harassed. It would be the greatest
moment of every guy's life. Now, women don't think about
this in the same way as men, because if you're
in a attractive woman, you are being pursued by men
every moment of your life, right, I mean, this is
the reality. You go to the grocery store a good
looking guy, I mean, you're a good looking girl, A
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guy might hit on you right Like you're at the gym.
Wherever you are, there are men who are pursuing you.
This is how biology works. By and large, you might
not like the guys that are pursuing you, but the
idea buck to your point. If a pretty girl in
the stands has a microphone and she's interviewing a guy
and somebody remarks, hey, chemistry looks pretty good here. You
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should ask him for his phone number, and he got
the phone number, every guy in America would be like,
this is the coolest thing that ever happened. They're not
gonna rip the girl.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
This is a hero moment.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Everybody would say it was really cool of the girl
to take the to make the move, and you know,
the guy is the luckiest guy we've seen how you
sort of get into this. How are people supposed to
meet people?
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Right? What is now?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
That?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Is it all just it's only algorithms online where you're
you're you know, you're at arms distance and you don't
actually have to deal with the possibility of like rejecting
somebody or actually talking to them. I mean what I Clay,
when you sent me that, I swear I kept reading
through it and it was just like, my, my, Fortunately
I have a lot of hair, but I was pulling
the hair out of my head. I could not understand.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Is the only sports media site in the entire country
that will say, there's nothing wrong with this? This is good,
lighthearted face.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
I mean to me, this is almost like, you know,
at the end of a local news cast, they'll do like, oh,
like a local mallard in the park, you know, lost
one of her something happy.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
To try to send people off into their day. Yes,
this is like a happy.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
End of newscast kind of story. It's like, oh and
she found her baby duckling yay, you know see tomorrow everybody. Uh,
this is like a nice, happy story. It's cute. Look,
maybe she gave him a fake number. Look, maybe it
doesn't go to It doesn't matter. It's a nice little exchange. Obviously,
people think this this woman that he's asking, you know,
is an attractive young woman, and it's all I just
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this is like a It's like Shakespeare in comedy. It's like,
this is the sort of thing that in Western civilization
we'd all sit around and smile about it and be like, oh,
isn't that fun and killjoy. Sports reporters think that it
undermines the seriousness of women in the industry or something
like are they just because nobody watched the WNBA draft Clay? Like, what,
what is the problem here?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
They're also making a ridiculous argument that this somehow equates
to them dating a player or an athlete. This is
not the same thing at all, thing to do with that,
not even remotely close. And also it's just a desperate
desire to make yourself a victim. Something nice happens on television,
(27:40):
you know what. I already tweeted this, but this is
not going to surprise you. I would if I own
the Braves, I would totally steer into this controversy. I
would have them go on a date at a game.
I would have a reporter signed to cover the date
during the course of the during the course of the broadcast.
You know this because you've done this show long enough
for me. My response anytime somebody criticizes anything that I
(28:04):
do is to do it even more aggressively. Like some
people are like, oh, you know what, I'll take a
step back. I'm like, we're going to go faster, even
faster into the controversy. And I would totally lean into
this because I think what it does, and this was
the basic foundation of OutKick is I think that much
of social media, as BS, I think that a lot
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of what people say there is not representative of the
real world. And if you allow yourself to be governed
by what people say on social media, you end up
making moronic decisions for your company, for your brand, for
your personal life. Because in the analogy I've made for
a long time, and I think I'm being proven more
right every single day, is it would be like buck
(28:46):
back in the day, remember those funny mirrors when you
would go to a carnival and some of them make
you look super fat and some of them make you
look super skinny. If you tried to adjust your diet
based on a funhouse mirror, imagine how broken your overall
life would be. I think that's the story of media.
I think media used social media as a representative, honest
(29:08):
reflection of the real world and tried to adjust their
coverage as of a result, and I think they lit
themselves on fire. I think Trump saw it. Certainly, we
saw it in Sports without Kick and sanity's returning. But
every time we have one of these blow ups, I
look at the comments like you did, and I just
I feel like I'm living in a different world than
the reality of the day to day existence that I see.
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It's still it is.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's one of those things where I didn't think we
would really talk about this because it would only be
you know, there's some people who, you know, they'll get
mad at you. If you're like, hey, you know what
can relax? You take a deep breath. They're like, oh,
I'm sorry, mister big deep breath.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Oh you got mad at you. And you were like, hey,
you know what you should do more of walk? And
people are like, oh, you're so such an elitist. Look
at you able to see radio hosts with your walking
daily you know, I swear I'm not kidding. There were
a bunch of people that were attacking me like, sorry,
some of us have jobs that don't I'm like, don't
allow you to find any time in the day to
go for a walk anywhere. Okay, I mean I'm sorry
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you work in like the Fox con iPhone factory. This
is like me and I've said this to my boys
a lot, like, hey, you can do push ups anywhere.
I understand everybody doesn't have a fat, fancy gym membership,
but you can do push ups and sit ups pretty
much anywhere. I mean, people in jail sales get ripped
because they just sit around and do push ups and
sit ups all day. You can walk anywhere pretty much
(30:27):
unless you either.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
People that want to be bitter about everything was my point,
and you'll find that on the internet.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
They just want to be bitter.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
But people that make a living commenting on sports, instead
of seeing this as a viral clip and something that
can bring everyone together, a lot of a lot plays
point is it's not that a cup a lot of
them were attacking this twenty thirty people with substantial audiences
like this is unacceptable?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How dare this be allowed to occur? Real people are
so nuts? There's more totally nuts. It is it is crazy. Anyway,
if you're a single guy, go ask a pretty girl
for her phone number, and hopefully you'll have kids one
day and that will be the foundation of your Or.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
If we're if you're a nice young woman and you
find a guy who's single and you think he's cute,
ask him. I promise you if he's not going to
be offended, he's not going to be offended. You're not
going to be offended. I promise you could be like, oh,
dare you?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
How dare you? Madam?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
One of the most intimidating things that any man ever
has to do is ask a pretty girl for her
phone number, her contact information, because it sets you up
for rejection. As everybody who's ever been to prom everybody
who's ever been to a dance, men have to ask overwhelmingly. Yeah,
if you're a pretty girl and you like a guy,
go for it. But I got my battleship. I got
my battleship sunk plenty of times before I got married.
(31:37):
And you know what build's character.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
We got a lot of talkbacks, a lot of calls.
I'll be figured this would to get you guys fired up.
A A Henry from New York a w R listener.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Play it on this sad day, which is tax day.
Listening to you two guys makes the painless intense. So
I think you like the antidote the tax that's what
you want.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Tax antidote there, Hey man, Clay, that's high praise, right,
we'll take that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I wish we could be the tax antidote because anyway,
it's just crazy. I know a lot of you were
having tears in your eyes almost as she stroked those
checks yesterday.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We like Clay, and I like to think that we're
a spoonful of sugar that helps the tax day go down.
You know what I mean? Here we go uh bb
Pam from Anchorage, Alaska A k E N I listener
up there, play it?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Congratulations, fucking carry on the baby.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I was just gonna ask how Ginger is doing.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
What does Ginger think of sweet baby James.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
She it's a great question. She is fascinated. She has
come over and given little sniffs and little smooches to
like the baby's feet when we held You know, we're
careful because Ginger still an animal, and I know that
you know you got it, but she's fascinated. She's a
little sweet doggie and she loves our little She thinks
it's like a little alien. I can tell, but she
likes the little alien. So so far, so good, good
(33:00):
on all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
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