July 4, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Klay,
Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's gone mega viral there and I feel bad for
the short dudes out there that are going to have
to hear this, but you all know it to be true.
We always talk about like the privilege pyramid or you know,
they always want to say, oh, white privilege. You and
I Buck, I think are in agreement that the number
one privilege in America today is pretty girl privilege. Right,
(00:29):
if you are a good looking woman, you are automatically
elevated above everybody else, no matter what your your gender is,
no matter what your wealth is. That I think is
the number one privilege in America today. I would say
that the thing that men are most judged for is
actually more significant and more anti privilege than anything that
(00:53):
women are judged for. And that is what the data
has shown on the dating apps. Women will not date
short men. And I'll give you an example of this
from my own life. My wife Laura, we have been
married for twenty one years, almost twenty one years, and
I asked her, once she's five to two. Let me
(01:15):
repeat that she is five to two. I said, would
you have dated me if I were five eight, she said, no,
probably not. She's five to two buck. She could wear heels,
and if I were five to eight, I would still
be clearly quite significantly taller than her, unless they're the
craziest heels ever.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She is.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm seven. I'm six foot all right, So I have
been good spot there. But then you confessed that your
own wife, who you just had a baby with, confess
to you what about height situations?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was the bottom of the acceptable. I am also
six feet. By the way, Klay and I are the
same height. I mean, depends on how swooped my hair
or his hair is in any given day. But we're
then certainly like a half inch of each other, and
we stand up back to back, we're both about six
feet tall. Okay. My wife has told me, she's like, yeah,
you're basically like you. It was like I was, you know,
when they do the tall enough for the ride at
(02:10):
the amusement park. I was tall. I was just barely
tall enough to date, so.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
She almost eliminated you for not being How tall is
your wife?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh, she's five three?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean you've her basically In other words, yes, my
wife's five two years about five three.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
For women out there, if you're like five to nine,
I understand why you might want to date a guy taller.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
This is not our situ. You need to set some
we need to set some parameters in everybody. And there's
a bigger conversation or two, which is that marriage formation
is down. A lot of guys are and a lot
of women are taking themselves out of this sort of
marriage formation pool. There are a lot of people who
are you know, not pairing up, who say they want to.
I'm not talking about you. If you if you choose
(02:52):
you don't want to do it. If you want to
become a monk. Okay, wait, there's always exceptions, So please
don't call and be like I have been living in
a monastery for thirteen years. I love this life. It's
like I get it, okay, But for most people, we're
gonna exclude a few things because this is my friend.
Jedediah Bilah was the one who shared out the data
on this one. And Jedediah she likes to you know,
you know, she was on the View, she was on
(03:14):
Fox for many years. She uh, she you know, likes
to sort of give it, give it tough to both sides,
I would say, and in terms of the dating and
the social stuff, you know, to the guys, to the girls.
And she just pointed this out that there's there's the
data has a real there's a real problem with this
data now. And I want to argue that this is
a new thing. I think it is a new thing,
relatively new thing. Here's women who are saying I won't
(03:38):
date a guy shorter than me that I get so
much so that I would say I I think maybe
once or twice I was on a date with a
woman who was basically my height.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I didn't like it. I'm just a preference thing. Everybody.
You could say, that's I just I'm not I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I wouldn't dat a woman who's six two, you know,
Like it doesn't mean she's not attractive, but I wouldn't
want to a woman who's taller than me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, like you know, I don't want to feel like
she could beat me in a game of one on one,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I just this is
not really what I'm looking for. So but but we're
not talking about that. The data shows that eighty five
percent of women online let me repeat this. Eighty five
percent of women have a problem with and don't want
(04:24):
to date a man who is five eight or shorter.
And five eight is a very interesting metric because that
is average height.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Basically, right as five to eighty five nine is like
the average guy's height.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mar I mean, okay, yeah, maybe it's five nine, but
like that is average male height. Yes, eighty five percent
of women online say that they will not date a
guy who is average or less than average height, and
that excludes all other factors. I'm just gonna say it.
There's also a thing where men online it's a in
(05:03):
terms of their rating of attractiveness of women. It's a
bell curve they think, you know, if they think twenty
percent of women, they're really not, you know, twenty percent.
Twenty percent Oh pretty good, I mean, and it goes
all the way up to oh my gosh, twenty percent
amazing like my dream woman. Right, women, it's like seventy again,
this is the data. Don't argue with me, Okay, I'll
(05:25):
give you the citations. This is This is millions and
millions of swipes and data on bumble, on Okay, Cupid,
on all the don't don't so don't call in and
say well, I'm short or I'm tall, and no, no,
there's a This is about what's happening in the aggregate
millions and millions of times across the country. Clay, I
just got so excited I forgot where I will.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But this is in Dick my argument. I'm gonna take
it even further than you. So if you're angry about anything,
you should reach out to Buck because he's responsible for
all of these opinions. I actually think women, Oh I'm sorry,
real quick, I don't want to women. Basically, women think
that like ten to fifteen percent of men are good
looking and all other men are ugly.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's what the data actually shows, which is insane. Again, men,
it's a bell curve. Men live in the reality here
of like you know. And and also they're far more
willing to go on a date women. Now I understand biologically,
you don't have to explain this. Jordan Peterson could show
up and tell me, like, I get it. They have
to be choosier and there's a different thing and there's
a different imperative with that. Fine, but eighty percent of
(06:28):
guys are not ugly. You know, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I think women are more Nobody will tell you this.
I think I'm right on this. I think women are
more selective of men in terms of what they must
have than men are of women. In other words, let
me explain.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
This clip that one and share that one out team.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Here's my theory on this.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Guys will fall in love with particular body parts on women.
This is one hundred percent true. Every guy has got
to get also their personalities claimed. Okay, I'm talking about
the first time they see them. Every guy has a
friend who is obsessed with long legs. Every guy has
a friend who likes butts. Every guy has a friend
(07:14):
and he cannot lie. Yes, every guy has a friend
who likes boops. Other guys are like, I don't even
care about anything else. All I want is a really,
really pretty face. And you'll hear be like that girl
weighs three hundred pounds, be like, yeah, but she's got
a really pretty face. Like there are guys. Whatever attribute
you have as a woman, there are guys out there
(07:35):
that are into it. There are people buck who love feet.
I don't even understand this, Like, have you seen her ankles?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, it's not eighteen forty dating. That's a little bit
of a different Categorphy's feet. I think there's feet guys
back in the day. By the way, this is funny.
Do you know what was considered scandalous in the oh
I used to give tours of the United States Capitol
when I was in college. It was considered scandalous. This
is amazing because the people who would sit in the
gallery at the Senate and at the House.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Do you know how.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Women would get men's attention who were on like the
congressmen and the senators. How would they be alluring.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
To show a little ankle? Is this like Saudi Arabil?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They would show their ankles and the men below would
look up and they would be like, that is the
best looking I'm kidding about this. Like Sam Houston back
in the day, he's on the uh, he's on the
floor there, Davy Crockett. They would they would be talking
off off the off the floor. They'd be like, did
you see the set of ankles on Tilda in the
(08:38):
front row of the U of the House of represent
I'm telling you this is men. There are men who
are into everything. I don't think there is an equivalent
for women. Like the height thing.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If you are. I'm sorry. If you are short and bald,
you better have an incredible job. You better be you
better be killing it because because a lot of women
out there are like, yeah, I don't like his hair.
He doesn't have any hair. I mean, this was the
George Costanza thing back in the day. There is no
equivalent for women of the short bald man. And this
(09:12):
ties in on your point about the whole dating app
world has created an artificial worldview.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Buck. I've been talking about this. I can't get over it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
There are tons of successful women out there who are
choosing because they can't find a man. They are going
to sperm donors and they're flipping through just picking a
non actual human right that they're going to interact with
to have a baby with. The person is a human,
but they're never going to interact with him based solely
(09:43):
on the data on the page, Like, hey, he got
a fifteen hundred on the SAT and he went to
Yale and he's six to and he's got blue eyes
and hair. That's my guy, and you never meet him
because you're trying to create a version of a man
that you can't meet in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But also the height thing is finishing returns to like
do seven footers clean out?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think it's a diminishing return.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think most women would say that the ideal height
window is like six foot to six four. After six'
four you become too tall and awkward and gangly for.
Them they want like six foot to six y. Four
this is me analyzing, women and then you get too.
Tall but to your, POINT i saw you tweet, this
AND i do think it's the most important aspect here
(10:26):
is it's the only. THING i guess baldness is the.
Other height and baldness are the only thing you can
judge someone for that they virtually have no control. Over
if a guy's, like, HEY i was gonna date, her
but she's, fat people would be.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like, oh can you get a load to?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Him like if a guy on a dating app wrote
no fat, chicks girls would be, like.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You can control your weight on some.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
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a pill which will guarantee that you lose, weight need
less and everything. Else but you can work to and
(11:16):
change everything by and, large except for, hair and except for.
Height and it's the things women care. About here's. You
you've lined this.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
UP i think that height is the most superficial metric
that a person can care. About and yet all women
have somehow become an you, know all women have. Something
AND i say all, WOMEN i know not all of. You,
okay some of you are married to great guys who
are five to, three and that's. Wonderful but this has
become a thing in our. Culture AND i think this
is my. Theory it's because of, uh we're all sort
(11:47):
of metrics and online. Obsessed. Now it's about social. Media
it's about posting your you, know your boyfriend or your
husband On instagram and he towers over, you and, like
there's this sense BECAUSE i DON'T i understand wanting a
part to be. FIT i understand wanting a partner to
be smart or to have an attractive face all that.
Stuff of, course this is, Dating this is. Mating that's
how it. Goes but to be LIKE i mean there's
(12:09):
actually a meme that was going or a little videos going.
Around then it was of someone who was like a
woman and she's, saying you, know he's six four criminal,
record no, problem speaks No, english no problem like and
even the difference BETWEEN i think it was six one
and six' four, was like, you know, Six' one i'll
deal with your Annoying and i'll deal with an annoying
(12:30):
mother in law like, Six one i'll but. Six', four
you know you may be, an AXE murderer but i
think we still. Have a drink so are we crazy?
On this one let's take some calls some of ladies.
On this one do you agree with us or do you?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Think this?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Is this is are you seeing this those you have daughters?
Or granddaughters too is it bigger among them? Than it
was i'm like the clay you think.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About like a lot of the biggest, Actors Five, eight
tom cruise, like five, seven, you know yeah, this is
they but they have women that make them look bigger.
Than they, are so, yes It's True, like tom cruise
some of these. GUYS are little i think the big
best point you made is this is what, The data
shows like the anecdote. Doesn't really matter i'm sure there
(13:10):
are exceptions, to the data but it's actually quite clear
that women, are i think more judgmental of men's physical
appearances than men actually. ARE of women i saw a funny.
Meme yesterday too, by the way on, the same level
how much, Have you read buck over The years about
barbie and, unrealistic you know like physical, expectations for, women
(13:31):
You know To barbi k have you ever seen an
article About like he man or or any Number of.
Basically superman superheros have you ever seen a story about
How unrealistic he man's body Type and like superman's, body
type is and how it is so destructive to young men.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Who No because he man would have to be on massive,
doses of right it's impossible to, a Large extent like barbie's.
Body is Impossible i've never i've ever, seen, anyone argue
oh this is, Unfortunate, for men like how in the
world can they get?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Out of bed they.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
HAVE unrealistic expectations i think we have a one way
street on a.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Lot of this you're.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Listening to The Best of Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And buck sexton we are deluged With responses after buck,
shared the data which is true that women are horribly discriminating.
Against short men and if in fact you wanted to,
talk about privilege maybe number, one pretty privilege maybe number,
two HYPE privilege because i think it goes. Across race
(14:32):
gender for, men in particular can you think of something where, you'd,
be like hey what's more valuable than being six? Foot or,
TALLER for, men i, Mean obviously intelligence i'm talking about.
JUST physical attributes i think you, probably go height, AND
for women i think you Probably go pretty and those
are probably, the two biggest best. Most valuable assets, now
for men you could also say there are things, you,
(14:53):
work for right. Wealth Obviously factors and ali has been
saying off air that she thinks this is just straight
by af because historically women have wanted bigger men because
they protect them better than. Smaller MEN do and i
think that's probably, true on average not to say you
can't be five to four, and you KNOW an incredible
ufc fighter back in the Day in, the caveman era
(15:14):
but probably being six four goliath styles probably a little
bit more.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Of, an, advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah yes perhaps it's interesting to see that you know
a lot. Of, Women are actually as we see the
listeners weighing in, on this, one, They're like Look i'm
not i'm not picky about a man's a man's, You
know hair AMN'S this that i don't need? A six,
pack I don't but i do have. A height requirement
(15:41):
so many women have. A height requirement THIS is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
WHAT i mean i think it's perfect that what we
were saying is your wife is five to three minus.
Five to two both of them have told us they
would not have dated us if we.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Were five, eight well no and then.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Clearly we both just barely were tall enough for the.
AMUSEMENT park ride i do there is no male.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Equivalent to this there is. NO male equivalent i don't
think to, women's height again because men, like tall, women short,
women big. Women small women like, whatever you are there
is a man out there that will be in. Love
WITH you, LIKE i said i still love the idea,
we come back we'll update you on, everything going on
and we'll take your calls and we'll. Have SOME fun
but i still love the idea of back in the
(16:23):
eighteen hundred's the ankle thing on the balcony overlooking this is.
How men are you Got, a great ankle.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We'll find you You're Enjoying the best Of Program with
Clay Travis. And, buck sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Ali you Are married to gerard and, he Is fabulous
AND buck and i are both very big. Fans of
his How?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Tall is girard.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Gerard is six,' four six' four?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
HOW tall are you alli?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I am five to three are?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You are five to three we have said prior my.
Wife is five to two buck's. Wife is five to
three that both of them have told us that, if
we were five eight we would not have been and
their dating partner. AND not their married partner, i will say, This,
too by the way black my. Mom is five to four.
MY dad is six three i bet if my, DAD
had BEEN five eight. I bet i wouldn't exist. JUST
(17:11):
tossing that out there i have never asked my mom
if she would have dated him. If he was five.
Eight she may be listening. She Can, let Me know
but ali if, gerard had been five eight would you
have ever started dating him as? A? Five, ft three?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
WOMAN oh wow you too i was also Attracted. To other?
Things about gerard.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Uh huh, if he was five eight? Would?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You have?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Dated? Him yes, Five, SIX oh my GOODNESS yes i
think she's i.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
THINK she's lying to US i think because when i
brought this up as we went to break at the,
end of the last.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hour, She five to, Four oh clay.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
CAN answer there's no way. I don't Believe, she would
i think ali. He, Was under Six feet ali i'll.
GET i'll GIVE you this i don't i. UNDERSTAND like
male female. Dynamic i understand if women although some women
don't mind if a guy who there are women who
don't mind if a guy shorter than, the especially if
they're like if you're six foot, tall, woman now in
heels right, you're six three?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ish right probably six three would.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You rather be a super tall? Woman, OR a short
man oh i think you had.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To choose super tall woman you'd rather be a six
foot five woman than like.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
A five, To four man.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean i'm identifying now as a six.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Foot six fire.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
SIX five women would be i mean that's like a
YOU'RE like bigger than A wnba center at that I
think That aren't the wnba centers like.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You're a giant woman if you're, like, six, TWO or,
bigger like right i mean that's very. Very right for
a woman it's like. Being a seven, FOOT man.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So YOU know i think it's, i think, it's you
know women anyway some women. WILL date SHORT of them
i don't I understand a woman saying i don't want
to date. A, guy shorter than me again what the
data shows is that women like an amusement park ride have,
in their minds at least and it shows that they
act on this when it comes to online. Dating a
(19:03):
height cut, off.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And every nature show every nature show you watch shows
the species and, how they attract each other and the,
male birds will puff up and the lizards will. Make,
their gills go Larger whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know what, i'm saying but to me, that's that's that's,
like muscles that's you know that's maybe. If you, like
someone's eyes you know. There's all these physical attributes but
for it seems to me that height for women. FOR male,
physical ali question i mean This is not fair because
gerard has a six. Pack and a six four. So
this is gonna go Now, WE'RE really if, if gerard
(19:40):
I don't know let'll. Take gerard out of this if
you if you have to pick for a Guy height six,
four or gerard level physique what what, Are we going, for.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Here, oh my goodness all right if we're, just, GOING
purely off physical yeah i suppose The fit, the fitness
because i'm okay so she.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Would go with the fitness that. MAKES more Sense to
me i think ali is, in A distinct minority there
because i think most women they just, they, THERE'S this.
HEIGHT thing Dude, I have i have. CLAY i'm six
feet tall i have come across women, who have, basically
been like you know almost like, they're doing me, a
favor like you bait like you JUST this Is, obviously
BEFORE i met carrie but i was single For Many.
(20:17):
Many years IN new york, they're like, i kind of,
You know GRANDFATHERED you in like if i had known you,
weren't quite, LIKE six'. Two you know i is wild and,
They're very open about this too like they don't because
because it's so objective that they don't feel bad SAYING
it's not like they're like, i wish you were, better
looking like that's just mean but like you're a little.
On the short side for me don't. Just say it
to your face.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
But you know what really sealed. The deal for, me
is humor personality, And HUMOR like funny is underrated like i.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Feel like, like you're, like an emotionally. Stable spiritually wholesome
very kind, person.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You know you're.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
All right you know we need ali's an outlier for
like like depth. And, in as a human being say
a lot of. PEOPLE who are superficial out.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
There i think.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
THAT'S top three for most, women i think, height IS
one money is two and i think more women will
admit to the. Height thing than the money thing there's
not a lot. Of rich guys with ugly women i'm
just saying it has not happened very often that you
see a super. Rich guy with an, UNATTRACTIVE.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
One but here here's again i understand. WHY you. Want
a rich guy i understand i'm not saying that that it's,
not superficial or that you know we don't wish, that
there was romance beyond that but being able to provide
unless A guy is playing in the nba or is LIKE,
a tight end in the nfl. Him being six' six means.
(21:41):
Nothing this is what. I don't understand BUT women LOVE
this I love.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
TOTAL i think i think.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
ALI'S right i think it's total biology i think historically
the bigger gorilla was able to, protect the FEMALE gorilla
from smaller gorillas and so i think biologically women are
attracted to bigger men because they, have the ABILITY. To
protect clay biologically look AT ufc but see this.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Is where I get look at you at most ufc
fighters are are almost all of them are five eight
to six one or six two. Like the very, few
THAT are tall.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Certainly very arbitrary.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
BUT i think this is straight biology, i think it's just, like,
caveman days, if you were bigger stronger and faster you
were more likely to be able to kill a. Animal
AND provide for the female baby average.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Ufc, FIGHTER height is, five to.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Ten yeah i just yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
It documentaries also, point out lions lions the male lion
the bigger main attract THE female with the f.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The main, I get, a little more i'm like i'm
LIKE a great main. Is something that I can. GET
behind you know WHAT i'm saying i.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Think, it's just, i think it's just power and historically
the more, like size you had as a man. The
more power, you tended to have Like.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Let's say Do, We? Still have david and in scottsdale arizona.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Is he a short. Guy, calling in we've. Ruined, His,
day no he's six three okay?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
David, what, Have you got.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
For us hi guys i'm. Six three my girlfriend's five
to two one of the. First things she said is
two things she almost didn't date me because she felt bad.
That she was taking a tall person but the big
thing is her tall girlfriends do not. Like short girls
taking the.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
TALL guy oh that's an interesting point i hadn't even
thought about the anger that. Short girl with tall guy
can provoke because if you're five to nine chick and
your girlfriend who's five to, THREE takes the. SIX to
two guy i get it i.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Do.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Think there's something to, your argument buck in an. Instagrammable
AGE everybody wants the perfect photo and i think there's
a lot of, girls out there and they wear, heels
and they're wearing a fancy dress and they're going to
a cocktail party or they're going. To a formal event
of some sort they don't want to post a photo
standing next to a guy who older than them because
(24:01):
they think it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
DOESN'T make the photo look as good i think that.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
IS in the industry part Of it i think that
is my that is my thesis that social media and
online dating has created this like rush. Rush of Interest
in The, Height. Situation we, Got walker, in augusta georgia.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Hey guys hey guys love the show and hearing you guys.
Talk Today remind me of. THE story so i'm retired
law enforcement I was ON twenty two years on swad
and i was the team leader and we had a,
business guy that, basically sponsored, our team gave, us that you,
know for extra equipment stuff like that and. We invited
him out to the range he was shooting with us and.
We were standing around, the amo table we were jamming
(24:42):
mags waiting, for the next iteration to come on and.
We're all like six two in, taller all of us
are big dudes and he is five to six and
he's standing there and, he's gaming. Mags and he's looking around,
Looking around he looks, and said i'll tell, you what
Y'ALL are some big guys, But if i stayd in.
My wallet i'm six, six, like that and. We all
said yes you're exactly right and to, That fact he
(25:03):
has a Hot wife i'm. Not gonna lie and i'll
be that he's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Here's what we call In, the culture he's. What we
call walker a short king that is what the millennials and.
Gen z now. He's a short king.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's really funny that's, a great line and by the
way is there something too short guy being driven to
be far more successful than tall guy because he knows
that he has to be economically successful to get the
best looking girl. In a way, that tall guy doesn't
in other words is tall guy lazy because, if you're
(25:37):
six to two or whatever, you have that height advantage
for you, And five to six guy is.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like i'm gonna do all the work i'm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Gonna put in all the extra time, maybe that would
actually make some sense right are, There's, Here's a way
to test. It buck this would be actually fascinating how
MUCH correlation is there between super wealth i don't mean like.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
YOU know you're making a good living i.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Mean like you're a hedge fund guy how much correlation
is there between hedge fund guy like you're making tens
of millions of? Dollars a year and average height guy
are hedge fund guy's taller or? SHORTER on average than
like finance bureau.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I want to get to we haven't had a lady
on the on the phone lines yet, we got so?
Much coming in? Though what's so, funny what you know
we're sitting Here we're talking about, like Saving the republic and.
You know the constitution and birthright citizenship we get, some.
Calls We talk, about, HEIGHTENED dating KABOOM everybody everybody's like,
Well i Gotta I, gotta tell you? Jerrolynn. In los
angeles what's going on, jerrolyn.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It's Funny that you mentioned that but because i've tried
so many times, to get on the air WITH y'all
and this. Is THE time. I made it true but i, Do.
It's About women dating. Short men. Ali producer ali's absolutely
correct it's evolutionary, women are attracted to providers, and, protectors
and generally that means bigger, stronger taller men who can protect,
us and men are attracted to readers which is where
(27:00):
the thirty six twenty four to thirty six bus. To,
WAYS to hip ratio, Comes. IN however i think you're
wrong buck i think More Women are as absolute, evolved
AS producer ali than you think because i think more, Women, Will,
compromise on things like.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh jerrolyne jarrolyn where your head hold on the data
that the, data, does not support what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So, where do you think people compromise.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
No you're absolutely right about. THE data that's one hundred
PERCENT true i Just think that you're i, Think if
i'm on, A dating, APP i'm a DIVORCED. Woman i'm
forty i, live, in la. I'm attracted to big strong
manly men but There's. Only that many, Of Them, in
la by, The way henry cavill if you're listening i've
been waiting for you to, knock on my door. For
Several Years just coming from closing he's.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
HENRY cavill. Is, A, mallugiin for sure, i agree yes.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah that's your comparison that's your.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Standard.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
OF beauty that you compared to no i you're right
that you never see, a rich man with an ugly
woman but you will see a beautiful, woman with, An
ugly man very often of course church because there are
a lot of women who are smart enough to realize
they need to, be dating somebody who's a good communicator
who is not, too cocky to be a poor mate
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who is reliable and going to be a, steady partner
to raise the. Children WITH than somebody who's simply hot
and i think it's again evolutionary evolutionary that men are
attracted to beautiful women More, THAN women.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Are attracted to he okay i don't i'm not. GOING
to do like the evolutionary.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Thing i actually agree with a lot a lot. OF
what she had to say. There i, think she nailed A.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Bunch you know she's, a very AJONALIN you're. A very
astute very high q, listener we have so many of them.
And we appreciate when you call. In but let me
ask you this do you agree with the thesis that
height has become far more of a focus Among? Women
in the dating pool in america listen it, was say
twenty or thirty years ago because that's, Really, my thesis
is that online dating instagram. Social media has made this
(28:59):
a thing whereas you used to, not be able to
say six foot. SOME women say six. TWO and above
i know that exists.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
I think, THAT IT'S always been important so no. I
i don't need some more important i think now we
just have. The data, To, Prove, that It's important all
right well jared.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And i'm just gonna tell you something if YOU'RE, if
you're a single lady in la you set you set.
The if you're on, a dating app not making any assumptions,
but if you're on a, dating app you set that that,
uh that filter to five. Eight plus you're gonna get,
short kings, just it's gonna be great you know just
just let those. Short Kings make their, pitch to, you
and i'm. Telling you you, KNOW you'll call in, YOU'D
(29:39):
be like I got you know i found my. I,
found the love of my life anyway that's that's my little.
Bit of a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Advice You're listening To The. Best Of clay travis and
Buck sexton.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Caller jared is a former. Navy seal, And? He's, Five,
To three what's up jared.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Uh yes i'm so honored. To FINALLY get through to
you guys, But i haven't ever all be honest i've.
Never tried to get Through You guys but it was
with rush limbaugh. And with, you the, Subject going on
i'm like. Oh lord i've got to call in i've.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Got To try it one more time and.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I'm so honored to. Actually.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Be On thank you very Much so.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
The navy program. They want navy sills, to be short
the shorter you are and stealthier you'll be. And less
hidden so. It doesn't matter they'll take tall men But,
as a. Five, Foot, Three, ex navy very proud okay so.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Jared you're a badass and we love you. And we
appreciate you, serving, our country let me ask?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
You though?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Tallest, woman you've, ever dated.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Five six, okay you.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Know.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But also, you know you know a navy guy you show.
Them the anchor. Tattoo in, your bicep you're a seal
you know you're. A little bit of a, special, case i'm,
Just gonna say this like you know i'm. Sure, you did,
fine with the ladies.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Well you, Know, the point of, the matter is hey,
in my world the, shorter you are and, in this
world the batter. You are the more stealth, YOU are
but you know what again i go back to. When,
you get in the real world yeah it's kind of
hard to.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Get a woman when you're.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
My size thank you, For, the call appreciate you calling in.
Jared and thank you for your service We got to Talk.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Back here from.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Russell and salt LAKE see see he listens on kN.
Rs where, we Are Consistently. Number one thank. You salt, lake, city, we,
love you. Play it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Guys guys guys got, it all wrong it's not the height.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
IT'S the guitar in the guy's. Hands i think.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's the flute, personally but if we in everybody's hands
what percentage of musicians in rock? BANDS got INTO music
Solely For girls i mean i think dave navarro of what,
is he nine? Inch, Nails Or No Not, nine, inches well?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Red? Hot Chili Peppers Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Was, HE yeah red hot chili peppers sorry i think,
he's like five two or five three like some. Of,
these guys that are on stage oh you, never see
anyone really sort OF standing, some Of these big rock?
I mean wasn't? Prince, was like four he was tiny.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah actually Pretty good basketball player too remember this chappelle.
Skit like that was based in reality prince was a
high School basketball. Pretty good Player in the minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Area Josh, in california wants to weigh and? Josh?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
What, DO you have for us hey yeah i was
just calling because while, women can hold mendous standards of
height why can't we hold, them to the standards of you?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Know weight and taking care?
Speaker 10 (32:47):
OF themselves, can they, cook a meal i mean you
know it's got to be both ways. When it comes
to a successful marriage it's, not always if the guy's
just tall but if, The woman's, just Kind, Of, you
know i'm pretty and josh.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
JOSH you're preaching to the choir here a man who
says that he doesn't want to date a fat. Woman
is considered to be, and, like EVEN women are just,
like oh when. I just said that it's completely unacceptable
yet you. Can control in, SOME way your weight women
saying yeah i won't date. SHORT guys totally considered to
(33:21):
be acceptable i think that's probably the biggest disconnect between
what men are allowed to say. And what women are
allowed to say women can. Judge men on things they
can't control men can't even. Judge women on things. They
can control welcome to modern life it's a. JUNGLE out
there in the. Dating world i will tell you that
(33:43):
so to all of our short, Kings and the, ladies
who love them god. Bless you stay strong and stand
tall
Thank you for listening. This is the best of with Klay,
Travis and Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's gone mega viral there and I feel bad for
the short dudes out there that are going to have
to hear this, but you all know it to be true.
We always talk about like the privilege pyramid or you know,
they always want to say, oh, white privilege. You and
I Buck, I think are in agreement that the number
one privilege in America today is pretty girl privilege. Right,
(00:29):
if you are a good looking woman, you are automatically
elevated above everybody else, no matter what your your gender is,
no matter what your wealth is. That I think is
the number one privilege in America today. I would say
that the thing that men are most judged for is
actually more significant and more anti privilege than anything that
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women are judged for. And that is what the data
has shown on the dating apps. Women will not date
short men. And I'll give you an example of this
from my own life. My wife Laura, we have been
married for twenty one years, almost twenty one years, and
I asked her, once she's five to two. Let me
(01:15):
repeat that she is five to two. I said, would
you have dated me if I were five eight, she said, no,
probably not. She's five to two buck. She could wear heels,
and if I were five to eight, I would still
be clearly quite significantly taller than her, unless they're the
craziest heels ever.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She is.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm seven. I'm six foot all right, So I have
been good spot there. But then you confessed that your
own wife, who you just had a baby with, confess
to you what about height situations?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was the bottom of the acceptable. I am also
six feet. By the way, Klay and I are the
same height. I mean, depends on how swooped my hair
or his hair is in any given day. But we're
then certainly like a half inch of each other, and
we stand up back to back, we're both about six
feet tall. Okay. My wife has told me, she's like, yeah,
you're basically like you. It was like I was, you know,
when they do the tall enough for the ride at
(02:10):
the amusement park. I was tall. I was just barely
tall enough to date, so.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
She almost eliminated you for not being How tall is
your wife?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh, she's five three?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean you've her basically In other words, yes, my
wife's five two years about five three.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
For women out there, if you're like five to nine,
I understand why you might want to date a guy taller.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
This is not our situ. You need to set some
we need to set some parameters in everybody. And there's
a bigger conversation or two, which is that marriage formation
is down. A lot of guys are and a lot
of women are taking themselves out of this sort of
marriage formation pool. There are a lot of people who
are you know, not pairing up, who say they want to.
I'm not talking about you. If you if you choose
(02:52):
you don't want to do it. If you want to
become a monk. Okay, wait, there's always exceptions, So please
don't call and be like I have been living in
a monastery for thirteen years. I love this life. It's
like I get it, okay, But for most people, we're
gonna exclude a few things because this is my friend.
Jedediah Bilah was the one who shared out the data
on this one. And Jedediah she likes to you know,
you know, she was on the View, she was on
(03:14):
Fox for many years. She uh, she you know, likes
to sort of give it, give it tough to both sides,
I would say, and in terms of the dating and
the social stuff, you know, to the guys, to the girls.
And she just pointed this out that there's there's the
data has a real there's a real problem with this
data now. And I want to argue that this is
a new thing. I think it is a new thing,
relatively new thing. Here's women who are saying I won't
(03:38):
date a guy shorter than me that I get so
much so that I would say I I think maybe
once or twice I was on a date with a
woman who was basically my height.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I didn't like it. I'm just a preference thing. Everybody.
You could say, that's I just I'm not I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I wouldn't dat a woman who's six two, you know,
Like it doesn't mean she's not attractive, but I wouldn't
want to a woman who's taller than me.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, like you know, I don't want to feel like
she could beat me in a game of one on one,
you know what I'm saying, Like, I just this is
not really what I'm looking for. So but but we're
not talking about that. The data shows that eighty five
percent of women online let me repeat this. Eighty five
percent of women have a problem with and don't want
(04:24):
to date a man who is five eight or shorter.
And five eight is a very interesting metric because that
is average height.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Basically, right as five to eighty five nine is like
the average guy's height.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mar I mean, okay, yeah, maybe it's five nine, but
like that is average male height. Yes, eighty five percent
of women online say that they will not date a
guy who is average or less than average height, and
that excludes all other factors. I'm just gonna say it.
There's also a thing where men online it's a in
(05:03):
terms of their rating of attractiveness of women. It's a
bell curve they think, you know, if they think twenty
percent of women, they're really not, you know, twenty percent.
Twenty percent Oh pretty good, I mean, and it goes
all the way up to oh my gosh, twenty percent
amazing like my dream woman. Right, women, it's like seventy again,
this is the data. Don't argue with me, Okay, I'll
(05:25):
give you the citations. This is This is millions and
millions of swipes and data on bumble, on Okay, Cupid,
on all the don't don't so don't call in and
say well, I'm short or I'm tall, and no, no,
there's a This is about what's happening in the aggregate
millions and millions of times across the country. Clay, I
just got so excited I forgot where I will.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But this is in Dick my argument. I'm gonna take
it even further than you. So if you're angry about anything,
you should reach out to Buck because he's responsible for
all of these opinions. I actually think women, Oh I'm sorry,
real quick, I don't want to women. Basically, women think
that like ten to fifteen percent of men are good
looking and all other men are ugly.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's what the data actually shows, which is insane. Again, men,
it's a bell curve. Men live in the reality here
of like you know. And and also they're far more
willing to go on a date women. Now I understand biologically,
you don't have to explain this. Jordan Peterson could show
up and tell me, like, I get it. They have
to be choosier and there's a different thing and there's
a different imperative with that. Fine, but eighty percent of
(06:28):
guys are not ugly. You know, this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So I think women are more Nobody will tell you this.
I think I'm right on this. I think women are
more selective of men in terms of what they must
have than men are of women. In other words, let
me explain.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
This clip that one and share that one out team.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Here's my theory on this.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Guys will fall in love with particular body parts on women.
This is one hundred percent true. Every guy has got
to get also their personalities claimed. Okay, I'm talking about
the first time they see them. Every guy has a
friend who is obsessed with long legs. Every guy has
a friend who likes butts. Every guy has a friend
(07:14):
and he cannot lie. Yes, every guy has a friend
who likes boops. Other guys are like, I don't even
care about anything else. All I want is a really,
really pretty face. And you'll hear be like that girl
weighs three hundred pounds, be like, yeah, but she's got
a really pretty face. Like there are guys. Whatever attribute
you have as a woman, there are guys out there
(07:35):
that are into it. There are people buck who love feet.
I don't even understand this, Like, have you seen her ankles?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, it's not eighteen forty dating. That's a little bit
of a different Categorphy's feet. I think there's feet guys
back in the day. By the way, this is funny.
Do you know what was considered scandalous in the oh
I used to give tours of the United States Capitol
when I was in college. It was considered scandalous. This
is amazing because the people who would sit in the
gallery at the Senate and at the House.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Do you know how.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Women would get men's attention who were on like the
congressmen and the senators. How would they be alluring.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
To show a little ankle? Is this like Saudi Arabil?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They would show their ankles and the men below would
look up and they would be like, that is the
best looking I'm kidding about this. Like Sam Houston back
in the day, he's on the uh, he's on the
floor there, Davy Crockett. They would they would be talking
off off the off the floor. They'd be like, did
you see the set of ankles on Tilda in the
(08:38):
front row of the U of the House of represent
I'm telling you this is men. There are men who
are into everything. I don't think there is an equivalent
for women. Like the height thing.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
If you are. I'm sorry. If you are short and bald,
you better have an incredible job. You better be you
better be killing it because because a lot of women
out there are like, yeah, I don't like his hair.
He doesn't have any hair. I mean, this was the
George Costanza thing back in the day. There is no
equivalent for women of the short bald man. And this
(09:12):
ties in on your point about the whole dating app
world has created an artificial worldview.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Buck. I've been talking about this. I can't get over it.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
There are tons of successful women out there who are
choosing because they can't find a man. They are going
to sperm donors and they're flipping through just picking a
non actual human right that they're going to interact with
to have a baby with. The person is a human,
but they're never going to interact with him based solely
(09:43):
on the data on the page, Like, hey, he got
a fifteen hundred on the SAT and he went to
Yale and he's six to and he's got blue eyes
and hair. That's my guy, and you never meet him
because you're trying to create a version of a man
that you can't meet in real life.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
But also the height thing is finishing returns to like
do seven footers clean out?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I think it's a diminishing return.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think most women would say that the ideal height
window is like six foot to six four. After six'
four you become too tall and awkward and gangly for.
Them they want like six foot to six y. Four
this is me analyzing, women and then you get too.
Tall but to your, POINT i saw you tweet, this
AND i do think it's the most important aspect here
(10:26):
is it's the only. THING i guess baldness is the.
Other height and baldness are the only thing you can
judge someone for that they virtually have no control. Over
if a guy's, like, HEY i was gonna date, her
but she's, fat people would be.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like, oh can you get a load to?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Him like if a guy on a dating app wrote
no fat, chicks girls would be, like.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You can control your weight on some.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
LEVEL i was reading this morning the Buck they now
have the what's the peptides or, whatever the, glue the glue,
tide whatever that thing is THAT i want Glph, yeah
did you See Eli lilly announced today they now have
it in pill. Form you're not even gonna have to
inject yourself on that stuff. Anymore you can just take
a pill which will guarantee that you lose, weight need
less and everything. Else but you can work to and
(11:16):
change everything by and, large except for, hair and except for.
Height and it's the things women care. About here's. You
you've lined this.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
UP i think that height is the most superficial metric
that a person can care. About and yet all women
have somehow become an you, know all women have. Something
AND i say all, WOMEN i know not all of. You,
okay some of you are married to great guys who
are five to, three and that's. Wonderful but this has
become a thing in our. Culture AND i think this
is my. Theory it's because of, uh we're all sort
(11:47):
of metrics and online. Obsessed. Now it's about social. Media
it's about posting your you, know your boyfriend or your
husband On instagram and he towers over, you and, like
there's this sense BECAUSE i DON'T i understand wanting a
part to be. FIT i understand wanting a partner to
be smart or to have an attractive face all that.
Stuff of, course this is, Dating this is. Mating that's
how it. Goes but to be LIKE i mean there's
(12:09):
actually a meme that was going or a little videos going.
Around then it was of someone who was like a
woman and she's, saying you, know he's six four criminal,
record no, problem speaks No, english no problem like and
even the difference BETWEEN i think it was six one
and six' four, was like, you know, Six' one i'll
deal with your Annoying and i'll deal with an annoying
(12:30):
mother in law like, Six one i'll but. Six', four
you know you may be, an AXE murderer but i
think we still. Have a drink so are we crazy?
On this one let's take some calls some of ladies.
On this one do you agree with us or do you?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Think this?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Is this is are you seeing this those you have daughters?
Or granddaughters too is it bigger among them? Than it
was i'm like the clay you think.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About like a lot of the biggest, Actors Five, eight
tom cruise, like five, seven, you know yeah, this is
they but they have women that make them look bigger.
Than they, are so, yes It's True, like tom cruise
some of these. GUYS are little i think the big
best point you made is this is what, The data
shows like the anecdote. Doesn't really matter i'm sure there
(13:10):
are exceptions, to the data but it's actually quite clear
that women, are i think more judgmental of men's physical
appearances than men actually. ARE of women i saw a funny.
Meme yesterday too, by the way on, the same level
how much, Have you read buck over The years about
barbie and, unrealistic you know like physical, expectations for, women
(13:31):
You know To barbi k have you ever seen an
article About like he man or or any Number of.
Basically superman superheros have you ever seen a story about
How unrealistic he man's body Type and like superman's, body
type is and how it is so destructive to young men.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Who No because he man would have to be on massive,
doses of right it's impossible to, a Large extent like barbie's.
Body is Impossible i've never i've ever, seen, anyone argue
oh this is, Unfortunate, for men like how in the
world can they get?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Out of bed they.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
HAVE unrealistic expectations i think we have a one way
street on a.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Lot of this you're.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Listening to The Best of Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And buck sexton we are deluged With responses after buck,
shared the data which is true that women are horribly discriminating.
Against short men and if in fact you wanted to,
talk about privilege maybe number, one pretty privilege maybe number,
two HYPE privilege because i think it goes. Across race
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gender for, men in particular can you think of something where, you'd,
be like hey what's more valuable than being six? Foot or,
TALLER for, men i, Mean obviously intelligence i'm talking about.
JUST physical attributes i think you, probably go height, AND
for women i think you Probably go pretty and those
are probably, the two biggest best. Most valuable assets, now
for men you could also say there are things, you,
(14:53):
work for right. Wealth Obviously factors and ali has been
saying off air that she thinks this is just straight
by af because historically women have wanted bigger men because
they protect them better than. Smaller MEN do and i
think that's probably, true on average not to say you
can't be five to four, and you KNOW an incredible
ufc fighter back in the Day in, the caveman era
(15:14):
but probably being six four goliath styles probably a little
bit more.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Of, an, advantage.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah yes perhaps it's interesting to see that you know
a lot. Of, Women are actually as we see the
listeners weighing in, on this, one, They're like Look i'm
not i'm not picky about a man's a man's, You
know hair AMN'S this that i don't need? A six,
pack I don't but i do have. A height requirement
(15:41):
so many women have. A height requirement THIS is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
WHAT i mean i think it's perfect that what we
were saying is your wife is five to three minus.
Five to two both of them have told us they
would not have dated us if we.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Were five, eight well no and then.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Clearly we both just barely were tall enough for the.
AMUSEMENT park ride i do there is no male.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Equivalent to this there is. NO male equivalent i don't
think to, women's height again because men, like tall, women short,
women big. Women small women like, whatever you are there
is a man out there that will be in. Love
WITH you, LIKE i said i still love the idea,
we come back we'll update you on, everything going on
and we'll take your calls and we'll. Have SOME fun
but i still love the idea of back in the
(16:23):
eighteen hundred's the ankle thing on the balcony overlooking this is.
How men are you Got, a great ankle.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We'll find you You're Enjoying the best Of Program with
Clay Travis. And, buck sexton.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Ali you Are married to gerard and, he Is fabulous
AND buck and i are both very big. Fans of
his How?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Tall is girard.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Gerard is six,' four six' four?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
HOW tall are you alli?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I am five to three are?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You are five to three we have said prior my.
Wife is five to two buck's. Wife is five to
three that both of them have told us that, if
we were five eight we would not have been and
their dating partner. AND not their married partner, i will say, This,
too by the way black my. Mom is five to four.
MY dad is six three i bet if my, DAD
had BEEN five eight. I bet i wouldn't exist. JUST
(17:11):
tossing that out there i have never asked my mom
if she would have dated him. If he was five.
Eight she may be listening. She Can, let Me know
but ali if, gerard had been five eight would you
have ever started dating him as? A? Five, ft three?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
WOMAN oh wow you too i was also Attracted. To other?
Things about gerard.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Uh huh, if he was five eight? Would?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
You have?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Dated? Him yes, Five, SIX oh my GOODNESS yes i
think she's i.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
THINK she's lying to US i think because when i
brought this up as we went to break at the,
end of the last.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Hour, She five to, Four oh clay.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
CAN answer there's no way. I don't Believe, she would
i think ali. He, Was under Six feet ali i'll.
GET i'll GIVE you this i don't i. UNDERSTAND like
male female. Dynamic i understand if women although some women
don't mind if a guy who there are women who
don't mind if a guy shorter than, the especially if
they're like if you're six foot, tall, woman now in
heels right, you're six three?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ish right probably six three would.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You rather be a super tall? Woman, OR a short
man oh i think you had.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To choose super tall woman you'd rather be a six
foot five woman than like.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
A five, To four man.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean i'm identifying now as a six.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Foot six fire.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
SIX five women would be i mean that's like a
YOU'RE like bigger than A wnba center at that I
think That aren't the wnba centers like.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
You're a giant woman if you're, like, six, TWO or,
bigger like right i mean that's very. Very right for
a woman it's like. Being a seven, FOOT man.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So YOU know i think it's, i think, it's you
know women anyway some women. WILL date SHORT of them
i don't I understand a woman saying i don't want
to date. A, guy shorter than me again what the
data shows is that women like an amusement park ride have,
in their minds at least and it shows that they
act on this when it comes to online. Dating a
(19:03):
height cut, off.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
And every nature show every nature show you watch shows
the species and, how they attract each other and the,
male birds will puff up and the lizards will. Make,
their gills go Larger whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You know what, i'm saying but to me, that's that's that's,
like muscles that's you know that's maybe. If you, like
someone's eyes you know. There's all these physical attributes but
for it seems to me that height for women. FOR male,
physical ali question i mean This is not fair because
gerard has a six. Pack and a six four. So
this is gonna go Now, WE'RE really if, if gerard
(19:40):
I don't know let'll. Take gerard out of this if
you if you have to pick for a Guy height six,
four or gerard level physique what what, Are we going, for.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Here, oh my goodness all right if we're, just, GOING
purely off physical yeah i suppose The fit, the fitness
because i'm okay so she.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Would go with the fitness that. MAKES more Sense to
me i think ali is, in A distinct minority there
because i think most women they just, they, THERE'S this.
HEIGHT thing Dude, I have i have. CLAY i'm six
feet tall i have come across women, who have, basically
been like you know almost like, they're doing me, a
favor like you bait like you JUST this Is, obviously
BEFORE i met carrie but i was single For Many.
(20:17):
Many years IN new york, they're like, i kind of,
You know GRANDFATHERED you in like if i had known you,
weren't quite, LIKE six'. Two you know i is wild and,
They're very open about this too like they don't because
because it's so objective that they don't feel bad SAYING
it's not like they're like, i wish you were, better
looking like that's just mean but like you're a little.
On the short side for me don't. Just say it
to your face.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
But you know what really sealed. The deal for, me
is humor personality, And HUMOR like funny is underrated like i.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Feel like, like you're, like an emotionally. Stable spiritually wholesome
very kind, person.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You know you're.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
All right you know we need ali's an outlier for
like like depth. And, in as a human being say
a lot of. PEOPLE who are superficial out.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
There i think.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
THAT'S top three for most, women i think, height IS
one money is two and i think more women will
admit to the. Height thing than the money thing there's
not a lot. Of rich guys with ugly women i'm
just saying it has not happened very often that you
see a super. Rich guy with an, UNATTRACTIVE.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
One but here here's again i understand. WHY you. Want
a rich guy i understand i'm not saying that that it's,
not superficial or that you know we don't wish, that
there was romance beyond that but being able to provide
unless A guy is playing in the nba or is LIKE,
a tight end in the nfl. Him being six' six means.
(21:41):
Nothing this is what. I don't understand BUT women LOVE
this I love.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
TOTAL i think i think.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
ALI'S right i think it's total biology i think historically
the bigger gorilla was able to, protect the FEMALE gorilla
from smaller gorillas and so i think biologically women are
attracted to bigger men because they, have the ABILITY. To
protect clay biologically look AT ufc but see this.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Is where I get look at you at most ufc
fighters are are almost all of them are five eight
to six one or six two. Like the very, few
THAT are tall.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Certainly very arbitrary.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
BUT i think this is straight biology, i think it's just, like,
caveman days, if you were bigger stronger and faster you
were more likely to be able to kill a. Animal
AND provide for the female baby average.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Ufc, FIGHTER height is, five to.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Ten yeah i just yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
It documentaries also, point out lions lions the male lion
the bigger main attract THE female with the f.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The main, I get, a little more i'm like i'm
LIKE a great main. Is something that I can. GET
behind you know WHAT i'm saying i.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Think, it's just, i think it's just power and historically
the more, like size you had as a man. The
more power, you tended to have Like.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Let's say Do, We? Still have david and in scottsdale arizona.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Is he a short. Guy, calling in we've. Ruined, His,
day no he's six three okay?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
David, what, Have you got.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
For us hi guys i'm. Six three my girlfriend's five
to two one of the. First things she said is
two things she almost didn't date me because she felt bad.
That she was taking a tall person but the big
thing is her tall girlfriends do not. Like short girls
taking the.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
TALL guy oh that's an interesting point i hadn't even
thought about the anger that. Short girl with tall guy
can provoke because if you're five to nine chick and
your girlfriend who's five to, THREE takes the. SIX to
two guy i get it i.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Do.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Think there's something to, your argument buck in an. Instagrammable
AGE everybody wants the perfect photo and i think there's
a lot of, girls out there and they wear, heels
and they're wearing a fancy dress and they're going to
a cocktail party or they're going. To a formal event
of some sort they don't want to post a photo
standing next to a guy who older than them because
(24:01):
they think it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
DOESN'T make the photo look as good i think that.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
IS in the industry part Of it i think that
is my that is my thesis that social media and
online dating has created this like rush. Rush of Interest
in The, Height. Situation we, Got walker, in augusta georgia.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Hey guys hey guys love the show and hearing you guys.
Talk Today remind me of. THE story so i'm retired
law enforcement I was ON twenty two years on swad
and i was the team leader and we had a,
business guy that, basically sponsored, our team gave, us that you,
know for extra equipment stuff like that and. We invited
him out to the range he was shooting with us and.
We were standing around, the amo table we were jamming
(24:42):
mags waiting, for the next iteration to come on and.
We're all like six two in, taller all of us
are big dudes and he is five to six and
he's standing there and, he's gaming. Mags and he's looking around,
Looking around he looks, and said i'll tell, you what
Y'ALL are some big guys, But if i stayd in.
My wallet i'm six, six, like that and. We all
said yes you're exactly right and to, That fact he
(25:03):
has a Hot wife i'm. Not gonna lie and i'll
be that he's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Here's what we call In, the culture he's. What we
call walker a short king that is what the millennials and.
Gen z now. He's a short king.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's really funny that's, a great line and by the
way is there something too short guy being driven to
be far more successful than tall guy because he knows
that he has to be economically successful to get the
best looking girl. In a way, that tall guy doesn't
in other words is tall guy lazy because, if you're
(25:37):
six to two or whatever, you have that height advantage
for you, And five to six guy is.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like i'm gonna do all the work i'm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Gonna put in all the extra time, maybe that would
actually make some sense right are, There's, Here's a way
to test. It buck this would be actually fascinating how
MUCH correlation is there between super wealth i don't mean like.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
YOU know you're making a good living i.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Mean like you're a hedge fund guy how much correlation
is there between hedge fund guy like you're making tens
of millions of? Dollars a year and average height guy
are hedge fund guy's taller or? SHORTER on average than
like finance bureau.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I want to get to we haven't had a lady
on the on the phone lines yet, we got so?
Much coming in? Though what's so, funny what you know
we're sitting Here we're talking about, like Saving the republic and.
You know the constitution and birthright citizenship we get, some.
Calls We talk, about, HEIGHTENED dating KABOOM everybody everybody's like,
Well i Gotta I, gotta tell you? Jerrolynn. In los
angeles what's going on, jerrolyn.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It's Funny that you mentioned that but because i've tried
so many times, to get on the air WITH y'all
and this. Is THE time. I made it true but i, Do.
It's About women dating. Short men. Ali producer ali's absolutely
correct it's evolutionary, women are attracted to providers, and, protectors
and generally that means bigger, stronger taller men who can protect,
us and men are attracted to readers which is where
(27:00):
the thirty six twenty four to thirty six bus. To,
WAYS to hip ratio, Comes. IN however i think you're
wrong buck i think More Women are as absolute, evolved
AS producer ali than you think because i think more, Women, Will,
compromise on things like.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh jerrolyne jarrolyn where your head hold on the data
that the, data, does not support what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
So, where do you think people compromise.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
No you're absolutely right about. THE data that's one hundred
PERCENT true i Just think that you're i, Think if
i'm on, A dating, APP i'm a DIVORCED. Woman i'm
forty i, live, in la. I'm attracted to big strong
manly men but There's. Only that many, Of Them, in
la by, The way henry cavill if you're listening i've
been waiting for you to, knock on my door. For
Several Years just coming from closing he's.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
HENRY cavill. Is, A, mallugiin for sure, i agree yes.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yeah that's your comparison that's your.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Standard.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
OF beauty that you compared to no i you're right
that you never see, a rich man with an ugly
woman but you will see a beautiful, woman with, An
ugly man very often of course church because there are
a lot of women who are smart enough to realize
they need to, be dating somebody who's a good communicator
who is not, too cocky to be a poor mate
(28:17):
who is reliable and going to be a, steady partner
to raise the. Children WITH than somebody who's simply hot
and i think it's again evolutionary evolutionary that men are
attracted to beautiful women More, THAN women.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Are attracted to he okay i don't i'm not. GOING
to do like the evolutionary.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Thing i actually agree with a lot a lot. OF
what she had to say. There i, think she nailed A.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Bunch you know she's, a very AJONALIN you're. A very
astute very high q, listener we have so many of them.
And we appreciate when you call. In but let me
ask you this do you agree with the thesis that
height has become far more of a focus Among? Women
in the dating pool in america listen it, was say
twenty or thirty years ago because that's, Really, my thesis
is that online dating instagram. Social media has made this
(28:59):
a thing whereas you used to, not be able to
say six foot. SOME women say six. TWO and above
i know that exists.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
I think, THAT IT'S always been important so no. I
i don't need some more important i think now we
just have. The data, To, Prove, that It's important all
right well jared.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And i'm just gonna tell you something if YOU'RE, if
you're a single lady in la you set you set.
The if you're on, a dating app not making any assumptions,
but if you're on a, dating app you set that that,
uh that filter to five. Eight plus you're gonna get,
short kings, just it's gonna be great you know just
just let those. Short Kings make their, pitch to, you
and i'm. Telling you you, KNOW you'll call in, YOU'D
(29:39):
be like I got you know i found my. I,
found the love of my life anyway that's that's my little.
Bit of a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Advice You're listening To The. Best Of clay travis and
Buck sexton.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Caller jared is a former. Navy seal, And? He's, Five,
To three what's up jared.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
Uh yes i'm so honored. To FINALLY get through to
you guys, But i haven't ever all be honest i've.
Never tried to get Through You guys but it was
with rush limbaugh. And with, you the, Subject going on
i'm like. Oh lord i've got to call in i've.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
Got To try it one more time and.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
I'm so honored to. Actually.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Be On thank you very Much so.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
The navy program. They want navy sills, to be short
the shorter you are and stealthier you'll be. And less
hidden so. It doesn't matter they'll take tall men But,
as a. Five, Foot, Three, ex navy very proud okay so.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Jared you're a badass and we love you. And we
appreciate you, serving, our country let me ask?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
You though?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Tallest, woman you've, ever dated.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Five six, okay you.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Know.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
But also, you know you know a navy guy you show.
Them the anchor. Tattoo in, your bicep you're a seal
you know you're. A little bit of a, special, case i'm,
Just gonna say this like you know i'm. Sure, you did,
fine with the ladies.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Well you, Know, the point of, the matter is hey,
in my world the, shorter you are and, in this
world the batter. You are the more stealth, YOU are
but you know what again i go back to. When,
you get in the real world yeah it's kind of
hard to.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Get a woman when you're.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
My size thank you, For, the call appreciate you calling in.
Jared and thank you for your service We got to Talk.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Back here from.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Russell and salt LAKE see see he listens on kN.
Rs where, we Are Consistently. Number one thank. You salt, lake, city, we,
love you. Play it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Guys guys guys got, it all wrong it's not the height.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
IT'S the guitar in the guy's. Hands i think.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's the flute, personally but if we in everybody's hands
what percentage of musicians in rock? BANDS got INTO music
Solely For girls i mean i think dave navarro of what,
is he nine? Inch, Nails Or No Not, nine, inches well?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Red? Hot Chili Peppers Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Was, HE yeah red hot chili peppers sorry i think,
he's like five two or five three like some. Of,
these guys that are on stage oh you, never see
anyone really sort OF standing, some Of these big rock?
I mean wasn't? Prince, was like four he was tiny.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah actually Pretty good basketball player too remember this chappelle.
Skit like that was based in reality prince was a
high School basketball. Pretty good Player in the minneapolis.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Area Josh, in california wants to weigh and? Josh?
Speaker 10 (32:35):
What, DO you have for us hey yeah i was
just calling because while, women can hold mendous standards of
height why can't we hold, them to the standards of you?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Know weight and taking care?
Speaker 10 (32:47):
OF themselves, can they, cook a meal i mean you
know it's got to be both ways. When it comes
to a successful marriage it's, not always if the guy's
just tall but if, The woman's, just Kind, Of, you
know i'm pretty and josh.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
JOSH you're preaching to the choir here a man who
says that he doesn't want to date a fat. Woman
is considered to be, and, like EVEN women are just,
like oh when. I just said that it's completely unacceptable
yet you. Can control in, SOME way your weight women
saying yeah i won't date. SHORT guys totally considered to
(33:21):
be acceptable i think that's probably the biggest disconnect between
what men are allowed to say. And what women are
allowed to say women can. Judge men on things they
can't control men can't even. Judge women on things. They
can control welcome to modern life it's a. JUNGLE out
there in the. Dating world i will tell you that
(33:43):
so to all of our short, Kings and the, ladies
who love them god. Bless you stay strong and stand
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