April 29, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show, the hosts delve into a variety of significant topics, starting with Speaker Mike Johnson's praise for President Trump's accomplishments in the first 100 days of his second term. Johnson highlights achievements such as removing men from women's sports, ending DEI in the federal government and military, expanding oil and gas extraction, securing trillions in new investments, and combating antisemitism on college campuses.
The hosts discuss Senator Tommy Tuberville's enthusiastic support for Trump's performance, grading it an A+. They contrast this with CNN's Harry Enten's analysis, which points out Trump's lower approval ratings compared to his first term and other presidents. Clay and Buck argue that poll numbers are less relevant since Trump is not running for re-election and emphasize the importance of his policy actions over approval ratings.
The conversation shifts to the administration's focus on economic issues, particularly inflation. Clay highlights a poll showing that 44% of Americans consider inflation their top economic concern. They discuss the importance of reducing the cost of goods and maintaining economic stability to ensure public support.
The hosts also address the administration's proactive approach to setting the media agenda, noting the effectiveness of early morning press conferences. They praise Trump's quick response to Amazon's proposed tariff pricing display, which was promptly abandoned after a call from Trump to Jeff Bezos.
Karoline Leavitt's comments on enforcing federal rules against men competing in women's sports are discussed, with the administration taking legal action against states that defy these rules. Clay and Buck emphasize the need for the administration to hold states accountable and protect women's sports.
The hour concludes with a lighthearted discussion about the youthful and dynamic nature of Trump's cabinet. The hosts reflect on the energy and talent within the administration and its impact on the country's direction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is the most consequential American leader of the twenty
first century. And that's an understatement. President Trump has here's
a list. Removed men from women's sports into dei in
the federal government, in the US military, expanded oil and
gas extraction to lower prices, taking steps to end unfair
trade practices, secure trillions of dollars in new investments in
American manufacturing. Deported criminal illegal aliens, stood up religious liberty
(00:24):
and rooted out anti Christian bias, Combated virulent anti semitism
on college campuses. The list goes on and on and on.
That's just barely scratching the service. That's in one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're just getting started, just getting started.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That was Speaker Mike Johnson talking about Trump's first hundred days.
We are at that mark right now. The time is
flying by, but certainly a lot already for the Trump
administration to tout in terms of accomplishments, and.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
A lot more on the way.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And Clay, I don't know if you saw this, but
our friend Senator Tommy Tubberville, he went full A plus
in his grading here. So I scaled mine down to
an A because I think you can't really give an
A plus. But Senator Trumberville, he thinks you can play six.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
One hundred days. What do you think A plus?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What else can he do?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
They left it in a total mess. I was up
here for four years of Joe Biden. They did not
do one thing for the American people or for this country.
They actually try to destroy it and everything went down.
Now President Trump has got foreign wars, he's got deportations,
you know, the border, the tax cuts, he's trying to
save the economy. What a total disaster the Democrats created.
(01:34):
And they're on the steps of the of the capital,
you know, Kumbai Jah and all this kind of stuff
going on, and they make absolutely no sense of what's happened,
and they don't know how to They don't have a
clue how to fix anything, so they're just trying to
create problems.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I think that's certainly the case. Democrats are just an
opposition party or a party of no. Now that when
you're out of power is always somewhat true. But you
can also say I don't like what he's doing. Here
is what should be done. Democrats just still chant about
Hitler and all kinds of exaggerated, crazy nonsense to oppose Trump.
But Clay, here's one area where they're going after him
(02:11):
using numbers. This is cut sixteen CNN's Harry Engine yesterday
on the one hundred day mark, saying, or just before
the hundred day mark, saying that the poll numbers aren't
in his favor.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Play that one. These numbers are just horrible. There's no
way to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And the first way we'll sort of point that out
is we'll look at where Donald Trump is now versus
where he was one hundred days into his first presidency.
And you see it here. You don't have to be
a mathematical genius. Forty one percent approve of him now.
It was forty four percent back in twenty seventeen around
the one hundred day mark. And what's so notable here
is that throughout his second term as president, he tended
to be running ahead of where he was in his
(02:45):
first term. No longer is that the case. He has
fallen below where he was at this point in his
first term. Of course, this is just Trump. Let's compare
him to other presidents. And I really think this kind
of puts a bow on it. And you can see
it here. You see the forty one percent. That is
twelve points below Joe Biden. It's three points below where
he was in his first.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Trump shouldn't that tell us Clay that it doesn't matter.
If Biden was twelve points ahead of where Trump is now,
he had a failed presidency, he was a disaster, and
he was hiding dementia from the American people. That's just
one example of or one data point toward. I don't
care what Trump's pull numbers are right now. I care
that Trump is pursuing the agenda. That's what he's supposed
(03:23):
to do, and people who are getting weak knees over
tariffs need to stiffen their spines a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
I also think that poll numbers for presidents only matter
if they can run for reelection. We talked to JD.
Vance at the top of the last hour. Jd Vance,
I imagine, would like to be the successor of Trump.
He is the person who would be running in some
way more than anyone on what the legacy of Trump is.
(03:50):
If Trump has, as I think he will, a very
popular legacy in twenty twenty eight, then I think JD
Vance will win the presidency because I would expect that
jd will be the favorite in twenty twenty eight, and
as the vice president, he will be running on the
legacy of the president to some extent. Obviously, you try
to also put your own spin forward on things. But look,
(04:14):
I mean, this is the challenge that Kamala Harris had.
And whatever you think of Kamala Harris, and I think
she was a very weak candidate. The reason she lost,
in addition to being a weak candidate herself, was because
she said there wasn't anything that she would do that
was different than what Joe Biden had done. And when
you have a profoundly unpopular sitting president and your answer
(04:35):
is hey, more of the same, it's unlikely that the
American public is going to respond favorably to you. But Buck,
here is what I think from the pole perspective, to
the point you said weak need, I think that Trump
came in and said, we have major, huge, systemic issues
that need to be solved. The border, I would argue, Buck,
(04:57):
is pretty much solved now. Deportation is a challenge, but
in terms of allowing things to get worse, he solved
it in the first hundred days. The global trade imbalances,
this is a major battle that's going to continue for
a long time, but he took it on. And then
the other one is the fact that we have a
thirty six trillion dollar national debt. He tried to take
(05:19):
that on. Where do you think the negativity is coming from?
Not the border where overwhelmingly people agree with him. It's
taking big swings and big cuts at global trade and
at the overall economic basis of our budget. He's taken
some lumps there because he's trying to fix two really
substantial issues. Well, this is where the psychology of propaganda
(05:42):
also is so important, because they were talking about a
Trump recession or even a Trump depression just a couple
of weeks ago when there was a choppy week in
the markets, up down, up down, and you could say, well, buck,
clearly we're not in markets up today. We're doing backflips
over it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But the point is they can make people feel negatively
about things, even when they're reporting is premature or just
flatly untrue. Right, So if you tell people enough things
are beat, you know, they've done interesting, interesting studies about this.
If you're a person who is just positive about other
(06:20):
people in general, people view you more positively, which makes sense, right.
And if you're somebody who's always talking smack, who's always
saying that, you know, Sally from Accounting needs to, you know,
work harder, or you know, Joe from Accounts Receivable needs
to put in more time.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
If you're always the negative person, people tend to view
you more negatively. Well, this is true of news reporting
as well. If you're just talking negative stories endlessly, even
if those stories are exaggerated or turn out not to
be what you initially reported, you can make people think
things are worse than they are. And this is why
Democrats also rush with the and the Democrat aligned media
(06:59):
rush with the negative narrative as fast as they can.
They don't want to wait for things to play out
because they want to turn the perception against the administration
because this is politics, right, That's how they view it.
They just want people to think things are bad. Remember
when to Biden they had this in the opposite direction
when for a while Biden's strategy, I think going into
(07:20):
the midterms and then afterwards, for a while Clay was
the economy's great.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
People just don't know how great it is. Right. That
was the Yeah, that was their argument.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That was their argument, you don't even know how great
things are for you right now, you just need to
pay attention to how great they are. It's like, well,
that did not exactly resonate. They're trying a different version
of sure, you think things are pretty much okay and
actually going pretty well. They're actually terrible though, and that's
what they've been doing, certainly for the last month of
the economy. So the long story short, I think the
(07:50):
poll numbers don't matter. Why would they matter right now?
No one's going to care what the polls were now
in six months or even in six weeks, So it's
just an effort to try to create negative perception.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I think they would matter maybe if there were a
more popular politician in America, and there isn't one, right so,
I mean if Democrats the Biden poll numbers always occurred
with the shadow of a Trump presidency and a Trump
reelection bid hanging out there. I know we talked about
Wes Moore in the last hour and who the Democrat JB. Pritzker,
(08:26):
Peter may or Pete that are trying to kind of
set the agenda to try to be the nominee in
twenty twenty eight. Who's a more popular politician right now
than Trump? Is there any Democrat. I mean, the Democrat
approval ratings in Congress make the Trump approval ratings look phenomenal.
So I think you have to look at it in
the context of is anyone else doing better? You also
(08:49):
hit on something that I always thought was super fascinating.
Do you know what the number one likelihood of who
was going to get sued as a doctor was? You
talked about how people are seen. Do you know what
they've studied from?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Hey, if you don't like If you don't like the doctor,
the chance of the doctor of you suing the doctor
goes up like ten x or something.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Bedside manner. It's not does the doctor screw up a lot?
The If the doctor has a likable comportment, the odds
of him being sued or her being sued much lower.
The bedside manner aspect there, and so I think that
factors in on some level.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Trump is now a known quantity. And the thing that Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Got right back in twenty sixteen when he said it is, Hey,
I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and my base
is not leaving me. And I'm paraphrasing him on that quote,
but that was basically the quote. The Trump base is
not leaving. Now we've all we've talked about this.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For some time. What is the Trump base?
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I think forty percent of America is died in the
wall Trump team, and so he's gonna have that forty
percent no matter what. He got a big percentage growth
I think in the twenty twenty four of lie. And
now the question is I think this is gonna ultimately
determine everything. What's the economy?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
This is what I told you, Buck, I think I
said that I was going to tease this, and I'll
I told you inflation was number one. I'll hit you
with the other things, but it's inflation overwhelmingly. If the
price of gas keeps coming down and if the price
of groceries does not go up, the average American is
going to consider Trump to have done a decent job.
I'll also later on foreign affairs. Doesn't feel like we're
(10:29):
very close to a war now. I hope I'm not
jinxing it, but it feels like for Americans in terms
of our stability and safety around the world, I feel
pretty good about that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
As if Canada decides to just get it together and
invade US, I am going to blame you for this.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now, and this will be on me.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
If Canada or Mexico, Canada or Mexico Costa Rica decides
to finally get an army and decides to try to invade,
this will be on me. Because I just said, I
feel very safe, but in general, I feel like we're
a long way from any wars. Also, I would just say,
what would people want Trump to be working on right now?
Who voted for him? Yeah, that he's not doing. I
(11:07):
think that's an important question to ask at. This is
what is the thing that Trump said I will in
the first hundred days do the following, start to do
the following.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm not saying the results are all in or that
everything has been accomplished, far from it. But what is
the area of focus where Trump has not focused and
we were told he would. I cannot think of it
because I don't think it exists. I think he has
come out and started going after everything he said he
would go after. Deportations are in the early phase, but
it is happening. The border is secure. It happened even
(11:38):
faster than I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That it would.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
He's getting the negotiations going on tariffs, he has the
negotiations going on Russia, Ukraine. He is looking at Iran
and Israel, and you know Midya's peace, et cetera. What
is he not doing that he said he would do.
That's I think in a lot of ways, the real
test of the first hundred days is that, you know,
(12:00):
promises made, promises kept, goes a little bit too far
because well, have we gotten the results yet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That we need know?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But focus is important, and the focus has been on
what he said it would be. And I think in
the first one hundred days of an administration that's about
the best you can ask for. Is you're actually doing
this stuff right. You're trying to do this stuff actively.
You're not delaying, you're not prevaricating, You're not saying, oh,
I don't want to go as hard in this direction
(12:28):
as I said, I wull that was just a fool
you idiots to vote for me.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He said, no, Okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And so I think that there's a lot of credit
that should be given to him on that and the
other stuff, Clay that we're talking about. With the loss
of some support in the polls, a lot of that's
media perception. A lot of that is people freak out quickly, Okay,
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Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I mentioned
this poll earlier, and I do think it's interesting. This
is from NBC News. They say they survey nearly twenty
thousand adults and asked top economic issue for you and
your family. Forty four percent Buck said inflation. So if
(14:51):
I were giving advice to anyone in the Trump team
over the next one hundred days, I would say, manighacally
focus on bringing the cost of goods down, because I
think that's the number one way that people tend to react,
right now to the economy. Second is taxes. We know
Buck that the bill is rolling through, the big beautiful
(15:13):
bill that will enshrine the tax cuts. We'll take some
of your calls on that. Third is the national debt. Again,
these are big, major systemic issues, and then you get
into housing, the stock market, which is in many ways
a snapshot of whatever the economy is at any given time.
Those are things that I think Trump gets. But if
(15:35):
I were saying, if you could focus on one thing
and solve one thing, inflation is down. But I think
if you could change the idea that Biden built in
that things are going to cost far too much, that
would be the most helpful in the next one hundred days.
It's what I would say to Trump, Hey, if you
were going to be judged on something, what would you
want to be judged on? Bringing inflation down and cost
(15:59):
of goods being not a massive thing that everybody's obsessed with.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It would be nice though, at some point to get
a reduction in rates here. That could be I know
Trump has been very vocal about that. I think he's
right about that too.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Free up a.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Little bit of liquidity in our economy would be a
good thing. I think people are waiting to make moves
based upon this that could be very helpful overall. So
we shall see. But yeah, the main thing is you
don't want overspending like we saw under Biden because that
is what creates inflation, and it really is a tax
(16:34):
on the working class and those who are trying to
pay bills and maybe even get ahead of bills. That
is what ends up happening. This is your dollars are worthless.
You have to pay more for the things that you need.
Asset holders do fine. People that have big stock accounts,
you know, multiple homes, owned businesses, etc. They generally do
(16:56):
much better when inflation is high, or rather they can
weather the inflation much better. But you know, the Treasury
Department is going to borrow five hundred and fourteen billion
dollars this quarter according to Bloomberg Clay. This is a
three hundred and twenty percent increase from its previous estimate.
We're still spending too much money, everybody. But I guess
this is the problem is that the biggest challenge I
(17:17):
think for DOJE all long has been so we can't
touch seventy percent of spending. Let's see what we can
do to make the other thirty percent of spending not
so crazy, that's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear
it all.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I mean, this is the thing that we're speeding at
rapidly is frankly, if you don't address the thirty six
trillion dollars in debt, sooner or later, the bill is
going to get paid, maybe by your grandkids, but economic
reality doesn't disappear. We can't continue to live on borrowed money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And yet we're going to try. Yes, this is unfortunately,
this is what we're doing. So yeah, out, yes indeed, so,
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In less than one hundred days, Trump has fulfilled many
(19:03):
of the promises made by Biden, Obama, Clinton, Schumer and
other Democrats. Why would Schumer say it has been one
hundred days of hell. I think the conservative media need
to resurrect all the old clips, play them, and then
acknowledge Trump's completion of their promises. The ultimate troll, Lewis,
I think this is a very good point you make.
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I think that a lot of what Trump has done
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are things that are at least have been in the
past by partisan agenda items, but Democrats were unseerious, unwilling
to do anything about it. Securing the border, for example,
they say they want to do it or at least
they have in the past, but they didn't really want
to do it, and Trump is doing it, so I
(19:47):
think that makes that's a very good point, makes a
lot of sense to bring that up. And now we
going to dive into something else here for a moment. Clay,
can I actually want to give you credit for this,
the very good observation they're having press conferences in the morning,
and Clay said, this is I think this is various, dude,
(20:08):
very true that by having their White House press conference
in the morning, it can set the agenda for the rest.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And well, I'll let you why is it good? Because
I thought this was a very uh stude observation.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, I was going to agree with whatever you were
going to give me credit for as soon as you
said it was a various stude observation. So I appreciate that.
But look, I would encourage the White House these early
morning press conferences. And I understand some of you are
going to say, that's not that early in the morning, Clay,
I get up at fo I trust me. I used
to get up at four am and do a radio show.
(20:43):
So I understand that a lot of you out there
have very early starts to your day, and I know
that what that requires. But twice this week that I
have noticed Buck, they have done eight thirty am Eastern
press conferences at the White House. I love it, and
I'll i'll tell you why. When I did early morning radio.
(21:04):
One of the things that I thought Trump did so
well in his first term was because the guy never sleeps.
I would be on Twitter at you know, five thirty
in the morning, and when I hit the refresh button,
the only new tweets that would pop up were from
President Trump. He would be up early in the morning,
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and he would set the morning agenda by putting out
what he wanted to talk about before they can decide
what the story of.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
The day is. Most journalists, I'm just telling you this,
are lazy.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
They don't like getting up super early in the morning
and having to go to work. They have their morning
calls where CNN executives or MSNBC executives tell their staff
this is the story that we're focused on today. Trump
is stealing a march on them by having early morning
(21:59):
press conference. It requires them to be up dressed, It
sounds simple. Requires them to be up dressed and ready
there to cover whatever Trump wants the story of the
day to be and it puts them behind and advancing
whatever their agenda would be. And Buck, let me give
you an analogy. This is why some coaches want early
(22:20):
morning practices because it keeps their guys out of trouble,
you know, And it's a different sort of universe. But
when you have to be up at like six or
seven am practice And I know some of you who
have teenagers, my son this morning during the summer, they
already got their schedule football practice. He's got to be
there early in the morning. Keeps the kids out of trouble. Stinks, right,
(22:44):
But when you get home and it's eight o'clock, you're like, oh,
do I want to.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Try to do something that could get me in trouble? Nah?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I think I'll go to bed because I got to
get up so early, and I know how tired I'm
going to be busting my ass out there. This takes
control of the agenda. I love it. I think they
should do more of it.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, look at how quickly this White House also jumps
on issues. And I do want to get to the
sports of women and men and women's sports issue here momentarily.
But there was a story out there that Amazon was
going to start putting YEP par example tariff pricing on
so you know, would say, hey, I'm buying this in
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my case, you know, giant tub of diapers. This is
the kind of stuff that you know as well. You
have a new born there, I'm getting a giant tub
of diapers. Oh wait a second, there's a fifteen percent
or whatever it was going to be tariff pricing increase
on this, and they were going to show it to
you in real time. Trump also reportedly called Bezos right
(23:46):
away and said, this is this Well, I don't think
I can repeat on the radio what I'm sure Trump said.
I'm sure Trump was not happy about this. And Caroline
Levitt also came out this morning and said, this is
a hostile political act if that happens. And guess what
Amazon has said, No, we would never dream of such
a thing. Well, Clay, if they hadn't gotten out there
(24:08):
right away, the story all day would be, oh my gosh, Amazon,
the terriffs, blah blah blah. They go right after it
and don't allow these things to be unaddressed. Look, people
are gonna believe or not believe this White House based
on what they think going into this, but at least
now they can get This is kind of like how
Trump hacked the media in twenty sixteen by using Twitter
(24:31):
in addition to everything else, because now we know what
he thinks.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He just tweeted about it is. That's right. We don't
have to guess.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
We'n't have to sit there and wait for the Lester
Holt interview or whatever it is to come out.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And I hated in many ways Buck getting up super
early in the morning. But what I loved was when
I finished my sports show at the time, I felt
like I completely set the agenda for what the day's
news was going to be in sports. Speaking of Trump
right now, by the way, he just admitted that he
called Bezos this morning and had good conversation with him.
(25:02):
But let's play earlier this morning, Caroline Levitt had this
to say about people who are breaking the law in
her opinion, based on federal rules that Trump has put
in place executive orders relating to men competing in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Here's what she.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Said, same thing with men in women's sports. The President
signed of very strong executive order making it the policy
of the United States federal government that there are only
two sexes, male and female, and we are not going
to tolerate biological men competing in sports or impeting in
private spaces for women like myself or you. And we've
seen states defy this federal order. You've seen the state
(25:39):
of Maine, unfortunately because of their liberal governor, who nobody
in that state disagrees with. I will add, being from
New England, I can attest to that people are incredibly
set up with her trying to oppose this common sense message.
You've seen young women who have had to go on
television to plead with their governor, please stop letting men
play against me in sports. We shouldn't live in a
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country where that even has to happen. The President deeply
understands that. That's why he signed that EO, And when
Maine decided not to follow it, the Department of Justice
sued them. So anyone who disobeys federal law will be
either prosecuted, sued, or say goodbye to your federal funding.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
This is so important, Clay, because I do think that
the conservative side, for a long time now, we don't
want to harass people quote unquote harassed people like we
don't want to get in other people's business. We don't
want to be litigious. We're suing everybody or litigating everything.
We have no choice. The other side abuses and weaponizes
(26:42):
the law. If we don't insist that the actual law
has consequences when you violate it, we're never going to
change any of this.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
This is a you see what I mean Like, it
is not in the conservative mindset to think, you know,
we're going to sue, We're gonna take it to court.
We're going to do We're gonna have a We have
to do this. We have to do it to places
like Harvard that are abusing their access to government funds
while violating the Constitution with their racially discriminatory policies and
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their anti Semitic stuff, etc. We also have to do
this with Title nine and men in women's sports. Notice
the other side they don't miss a beat if they
can sue. They have destroyed lots of men's programs, athletic
programs right because they can't spend the money on the
women's side of things. So you get all these weird imbalances.
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The law has all these problems. As a result, they
never hesitate when they can use the law to their advantage.
But I think that our side, until Trump came along,
and particularly this Trump administration, has wanted to do this
the gentlemanly way. And I'm merely saying, when it comes
to this, it's the law now. It's not about being
a gentleman. It's about protecting women and protecting our girls.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Read completely, And I you know, this is a big
part of the book that I that I've just recently finished.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Buck.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I think this issue, more than any other, crystallizes if
you will argue that a dude can be a women's
sports champion, I can't trust you on anything because you
have lied to me when it comes to an opinion
that you are sharing, and once you have said that,
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I can't trust you on anything else. And that's especially
true when you try to take the next step, Buck
and say.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, uh, you know, how are you sure?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Well, because of the whole history of humanity, that's how
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What's your evidence?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Humanity biology existing, the fact that if we didn't have
men's and women's sports separated, there would be no women
who would buy and large ever make a team. And
let me also tie it in here, Buck, what they
are saying I think is important we have to escalate
the expectation that the executive has the authority to implement law,
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and if you directly oppose it, you should be held
accountable for that. And I think this applies not only
in men and women's sports, which is a cultural signpost,
but significantly when it comes to immigration. Because we saw
that judge in Milwaukee arrested, and as soon as the
details came out buck a lot of people they were
(29:32):
having protests, and then that seemed to fade a bit
because many people, even on the left, said, boy, if
this judge helped a criminal escape, it's hard to defend that.
I mean, if you had somebody who was charged with
a crime in your courtroom, leave aside the status legal
or illegal, and you help them go out of back
door when they were going to be charged with an
(29:53):
additional crime, most people would say, yeah, that's criminal by
the judge. And I I understand there are some people
who see this. I think you made the analogy as
the equivalent of like you're on the underground railroad and
you've got to help these illegal immigrants from the ice
raids and everything else. That's not an argument that resonates
with very many people out there other than the ten
(30:15):
or fifteen percent of crazy Town residents. And so I
think this is where Trump continuing to accelerate put the
gas here is good. Let me play this really quick
before we go to break, because you referenced it. Buck,
Trump talking to the media. Here's a quick response. He
talks about his phone call with Jeff Bezos this morning,
which came out of the early morning agenda setting press
(30:37):
conference with Caroline Levitt.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Listen, Jeff Bezos was very nice, he was terrific.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
He solved the problem very quickly, and he did the
right thing, and he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Buck.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
This is interesting if Bezos had to step in to
stop Amazon from doing this one. There's going to be
a lot of conversation about the relaylationship between between Bezos
and Trump, which seems to be very positive at this
point because it impacts so many things the Washington Post
certainly as well as Amazon, but also it suggests that
(31:13):
Bezos is continuing to stand up to what I would
call the left wing malcutins inside of his corporation in
a way that he was not willing to do just
a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yes, I think that the heads of companies much more
so than we have seen in decades. Feel like they
can fall back on this crazy idea of we are
capitalists running a business. We are not some kind of
social justice nonprofit that you get to shake down whenever
(31:45):
you're having a tantrum. So isn't that so much better?
Isn't that so much more sensible for all of us?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
And I'll point out Bezos suddenly got an awful lot
ballsier when he got some testosterone, moved to Florida and
got a hot girlfriend. Maybe they're disconnected, but they certainly
seem connected to me.
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Welcome Back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We were
just talking about off air. The Trump team played this
Amazon story masterfully today. They addressed it on the air
early in the morning with the press conference. Trump calls bezos,
it gets abandoned, It may well have otherwise happened, and
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they had this all happened before most of the media
had even woken up or was aware at all of
what's going on. I'm telling you, stealing a march on
him early in the morning is incredible. Obviously it works
for Trump because the guy sleeps like three or four hours.
He's right now by the way on the road to
Michigan for a rally to celebrate one hundred days in office.
(35:00):
That's where his final rally was, right before election day,
late at night. If you remember, I believe it in
Grand Rapids, if I'm not mistaken, when he did his
final rally, probably of his political career. Encourage all of
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(35:22):
to see our two. For those of you who have
not been hanging out with us. For the last three hours,
our two JD. Vance joined US Vice President of the
United States to celebrate his one hundred days of the
Trump Vance administration.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
So I think you guys will enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Did you ever think, Clay, when you were a high
school kid playing hacky sack listening to Dave Matthews, did
you ever think that our buddies would run the country,
Because that's really what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
This is funny because you mentioned this at the inauguration.
You are like, man, there's a lot of young people.
Do you remember this. You're like, man, there's a lot
of young people in this administration. And my wife, as
she often does, immediately fired back. It's not that there's
a lot of young people in this administration. It's that
you guys are old. Now do you remember that? Ooh yeah,
(36:11):
it burns, But I will say yes, Look, Trump has
i think, not only put together an incredible amount of
talent in his cabinet, but it is a far more
youthful cabinet than we have seen in a very very
long time. When you think about Tulsea Gabbard, when you
think about Pete hag Seth, when you think about JD.
(36:31):
Vance as his vice president, People in their forties, still
hopefully at the growth point of their lives and putting
all that effort and energy behind the presidency and behind
this cabinet.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think it's pretty fabulous. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I just meant we've been out drinking with these guys
and now they're trying to prevent nuclear war.
He is the most consequential American leader of the twenty
first century. And that's an understatement. President Trump has here's
a list. Removed men from women's sports into dei in
the federal government, in the US military, expanded oil and
gas extraction to lower prices, taking steps to end unfair
trade practices, secure trillions of dollars in new investments in
American manufacturing. Deported criminal illegal aliens, stood up religious liberty
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and rooted out anti Christian bias, Combated virulent anti semitism
on college campuses. The list goes on and on and on.
That's just barely scratching the service. That's in one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We're just getting started, just getting started.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That was Speaker Mike Johnson talking about Trump's first hundred days.
We are at that mark right now. The time is
flying by, but certainly a lot already for the Trump
administration to tout in terms of accomplishments, and.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
A lot more on the way.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And Clay, I don't know if you saw this, but
our friend Senator Tommy Tubberville, he went full A plus
in his grading here. So I scaled mine down to
an A because I think you can't really give an
A plus. But Senator Trumberville, he thinks you can play six.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
One hundred days. What do you think A plus?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What else can he do?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
They left it in a total mess. I was up
here for four years of Joe Biden. They did not
do one thing for the American people or for this country.
They actually try to destroy it and everything went down.
Now President Trump has got foreign wars, he's got deportations,
you know, the border, the tax cuts, he's trying to
save the economy. What a total disaster the Democrats created.
(01:34):
And they're on the steps of the of the capital,
you know, Kumbai Jah and all this kind of stuff
going on, and they make absolutely no sense of what's happened,
and they don't know how to They don't have a
clue how to fix anything, so they're just trying to
create problems.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I think that's certainly the case. Democrats are just an
opposition party or a party of no. Now that when
you're out of power is always somewhat true. But you
can also say I don't like what he's doing. Here
is what should be done. Democrats just still chant about
Hitler and all kinds of exaggerated, crazy nonsense to oppose Trump.
But Clay, here's one area where they're going after him
(02:11):
using numbers. This is cut sixteen CNN's Harry Engine yesterday
on the one hundred day mark, saying, or just before
the hundred day mark, saying that the poll numbers aren't
in his favor.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Play that one. These numbers are just horrible. There's no
way to sugarcoat it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And the first way we'll sort of point that out
is we'll look at where Donald Trump is now versus
where he was one hundred days into his first presidency.
And you see it here. You don't have to be
a mathematical genius. Forty one percent approve of him now.
It was forty four percent back in twenty seventeen around
the one hundred day mark. And what's so notable here
is that throughout his second term as president, he tended
to be running ahead of where he was in his
(02:45):
first term. No longer is that the case. He has
fallen below where he was at this point in his
first term. Of course, this is just Trump. Let's compare
him to other presidents. And I really think this kind
of puts a bow on it. And you can see
it here. You see the forty one percent. That is
twelve points below Joe Biden. It's three points below where
he was in his first.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Trump shouldn't that tell us Clay that it doesn't matter.
If Biden was twelve points ahead of where Trump is now,
he had a failed presidency, he was a disaster, and
he was hiding dementia from the American people. That's just
one example of or one data point toward. I don't
care what Trump's pull numbers are right now. I care
that Trump is pursuing the agenda. That's what he's supposed
(03:23):
to do, and people who are getting weak knees over
tariffs need to stiffen their spines a little bit.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
I also think that poll numbers for presidents only matter
if they can run for reelection. We talked to JD.
Vance at the top of the last hour. Jd Vance,
I imagine, would like to be the successor of Trump.
He is the person who would be running in some
way more than anyone on what the legacy of Trump is.
(03:50):
If Trump has, as I think he will, a very
popular legacy in twenty twenty eight, then I think JD
Vance will win the presidency because I would expect that
jd will be the favorite in twenty twenty eight, and
as the vice president, he will be running on the
legacy of the president to some extent. Obviously, you try
to also put your own spin forward on things. But look,
(04:14):
I mean, this is the challenge that Kamala Harris had.
And whatever you think of Kamala Harris, and I think
she was a very weak candidate. The reason she lost,
in addition to being a weak candidate herself, was because
she said there wasn't anything that she would do that
was different than what Joe Biden had done. And when
you have a profoundly unpopular sitting president and your answer
(04:35):
is hey, more of the same, it's unlikely that the
American public is going to respond favorably to you. But Buck,
here is what I think from the pole perspective, to
the point you said weak need, I think that Trump
came in and said, we have major, huge, systemic issues
that need to be solved. The border, I would argue, Buck,
(04:57):
is pretty much solved now. Deportation is a challenge, but
in terms of allowing things to get worse, he solved
it in the first hundred days. The global trade imbalances,
this is a major battle that's going to continue for
a long time, but he took it on. And then
the other one is the fact that we have a
thirty six trillion dollar national debt. He tried to take
(05:19):
that on. Where do you think the negativity is coming from?
Not the border where overwhelmingly people agree with him. It's
taking big swings and big cuts at global trade and
at the overall economic basis of our budget. He's taken
some lumps there because he's trying to fix two really
substantial issues. Well, this is where the psychology of propaganda
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also is so important, because they were talking about a
Trump recession or even a Trump depression just a couple
of weeks ago when there was a choppy week in
the markets, up down, up down, and you could say, well, buck,
clearly we're not in markets up today. We're doing backflips
over it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But the point is they can make people feel negatively
about things, even when they're reporting is premature or just
flatly untrue. Right, So if you tell people enough things
are beat, you know, they've done interesting, interesting studies about this.
If you're a person who is just positive about other
(06:20):
people in general, people view you more positively, which makes sense, right.
And if you're somebody who's always talking smack, who's always
saying that, you know, Sally from Accounting needs to, you know,
work harder, or you know, Joe from Accounts Receivable needs
to put in more time.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
If you're always the negative person, people tend to view
you more negatively. Well, this is true of news reporting
as well. If you're just talking negative stories endlessly, even
if those stories are exaggerated or turn out not to
be what you initially reported, you can make people think
things are worse than they are. And this is why
Democrats also rush with the and the Democrat aligned media
(06:59):
rush with the negative narrative as fast as they can.
They don't want to wait for things to play out
because they want to turn the perception against the administration
because this is politics, right, That's how they view it.
They just want people to think things are bad. Remember
when to Biden they had this in the opposite direction
when for a while Biden's strategy, I think going into
(07:20):
the midterms and then afterwards, for a while Clay was
the economy's great.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
People just don't know how great it is. Right. That
was the Yeah, that was their argument.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
That was their argument, you don't even know how great
things are for you right now, you just need to
pay attention to how great they are. It's like, well,
that did not exactly resonate. They're trying a different version
of sure, you think things are pretty much okay and
actually going pretty well. They're actually terrible though, and that's
what they've been doing, certainly for the last month of
the economy. So the long story short, I think the
(07:50):
poll numbers don't matter. Why would they matter right now?
No one's going to care what the polls were now
in six months or even in six weeks, So it's
just an effort to try to create negative perception.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I think they would matter maybe if there were a
more popular politician in America, and there isn't one, right so,
I mean if Democrats the Biden poll numbers always occurred
with the shadow of a Trump presidency and a Trump
reelection bid hanging out there. I know we talked about
Wes Moore in the last hour and who the Democrat JB. Pritzker,
(08:26):
Peter may or Pete that are trying to kind of
set the agenda to try to be the nominee in
twenty twenty eight. Who's a more popular politician right now
than Trump? Is there any Democrat. I mean, the Democrat
approval ratings in Congress make the Trump approval ratings look phenomenal.
So I think you have to look at it in
the context of is anyone else doing better? You also
(08:49):
hit on something that I always thought was super fascinating.
Do you know what the number one likelihood of who
was going to get sued as a doctor was? You
talked about how people are seen. Do you know what
they've studied from?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Hey, if you don't like If you don't like the doctor,
the chance of the doctor of you suing the doctor
goes up like ten x or something.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Bedside manner. It's not does the doctor screw up a lot?
The If the doctor has a likable comportment, the odds
of him being sued or her being sued much lower.
The bedside manner aspect there, and so I think that
factors in on some level.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Trump is now a known quantity. And the thing that Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Got right back in twenty sixteen when he said it is, Hey,
I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and my base
is not leaving me. And I'm paraphrasing him on that quote,
but that was basically the quote. The Trump base is
not leaving. Now we've all we've talked about this.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
For some time. What is the Trump base?
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I think forty percent of America is died in the
wall Trump team, and so he's gonna have that forty
percent no matter what. He got a big percentage growth
I think in the twenty twenty four of lie. And
now the question is I think this is gonna ultimately
determine everything. What's the economy?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Like?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
This is what I told you, Buck, I think I
said that I was going to tease this, and I'll
I told you inflation was number one. I'll hit you
with the other things, but it's inflation overwhelmingly. If the
price of gas keeps coming down and if the price
of groceries does not go up, the average American is
going to consider Trump to have done a decent job.
I'll also later on foreign affairs. Doesn't feel like we're
(10:29):
very close to a war now. I hope I'm not
jinxing it, but it feels like for Americans in terms
of our stability and safety around the world, I feel
pretty good about that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
As if Canada decides to just get it together and
invade US, I am going to blame you for this.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now, and this will be on me.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
If Canada or Mexico, Canada or Mexico Costa Rica decides
to finally get an army and decides to try to invade,
this will be on me. Because I just said, I
feel very safe, but in general, I feel like we're
a long way from any wars. Also, I would just say,
what would people want Trump to be working on right now?
Who voted for him? Yeah, that he's not doing. I
(11:07):
think that's an important question to ask at. This is
what is the thing that Trump said I will in
the first hundred days do the following, start to do
the following.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm not saying the results are all in or that
everything has been accomplished, far from it. But what is
the area of focus where Trump has not focused and
we were told he would. I cannot think of it
because I don't think it exists. I think he has
come out and started going after everything he said he
would go after. Deportations are in the early phase, but
it is happening. The border is secure. It happened even
(11:38):
faster than I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That it would.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
He's getting the negotiations going on tariffs, he has the
negotiations going on Russia, Ukraine. He is looking at Iran
and Israel, and you know Midya's peace, et cetera. What
is he not doing that he said he would do.
That's I think in a lot of ways, the real
test of the first hundred days is that, you know,
(12:00):
promises made, promises kept, goes a little bit too far
because well, have we gotten the results yet.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That we need know?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But focus is important, and the focus has been on
what he said it would be. And I think in
the first one hundred days of an administration that's about
the best you can ask for. Is you're actually doing
this stuff right. You're trying to do this stuff actively.
You're not delaying, you're not prevaricating, You're not saying, oh,
I don't want to go as hard in this direction
(12:28):
as I said, I wull that was just a fool
you idiots to vote for me.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He said, no, Okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And so I think that there's a lot of credit
that should be given to him on that and the
other stuff, Clay that we're talking about. With the loss
of some support in the polls, a lot of that's
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Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I mentioned
this poll earlier, and I do think it's interesting. This
is from NBC News. They say they survey nearly twenty
thousand adults and asked top economic issue for you and
your family. Forty four percent Buck said inflation. So if
(14:51):
I were giving advice to anyone in the Trump team
over the next one hundred days, I would say, manighacally
focus on bringing the cost of goods down, because I
think that's the number one way that people tend to react,
right now to the economy. Second is taxes. We know
Buck that the bill is rolling through, the big beautiful
(15:13):
bill that will enshrine the tax cuts. We'll take some
of your calls on that. Third is the national debt. Again,
these are big, major systemic issues, and then you get
into housing, the stock market, which is in many ways
a snapshot of whatever the economy is at any given time.
Those are things that I think Trump gets. But if
(15:35):
I were saying, if you could focus on one thing
and solve one thing, inflation is down. But I think
if you could change the idea that Biden built in
that things are going to cost far too much, that
would be the most helpful in the next one hundred days.
It's what I would say to Trump, Hey, if you
were going to be judged on something, what would you
want to be judged on? Bringing inflation down and cost
(15:59):
of goods being not a massive thing that everybody's obsessed with.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It would be nice though, at some point to get
a reduction in rates here. That could be I know
Trump has been very vocal about that. I think he's
right about that too.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Free up a.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Little bit of liquidity in our economy would be a
good thing. I think people are waiting to make moves
based upon this that could be very helpful overall. So
we shall see. But yeah, the main thing is you
don't want overspending like we saw under Biden because that
is what creates inflation, and it really is a tax
(16:34):
on the working class and those who are trying to
pay bills and maybe even get ahead of bills. That
is what ends up happening. This is your dollars are worthless.
You have to pay more for the things that you need.
Asset holders do fine. People that have big stock accounts,
you know, multiple homes, owned businesses, etc. They generally do
(16:56):
much better when inflation is high, or rather they can
weather the inflation much better. But you know, the Treasury
Department is going to borrow five hundred and fourteen billion
dollars this quarter according to Bloomberg Clay. This is a
three hundred and twenty percent increase from its previous estimate.
We're still spending too much money, everybody. But I guess
this is the problem is that the biggest challenge I
(17:17):
think for DOJE all long has been so we can't
touch seventy percent of spending. Let's see what we can
do to make the other thirty percent of spending not
so crazy, that's not good enough.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants to hear
it all.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I mean, this is the thing that we're speeding at
rapidly is frankly, if you don't address the thirty six
trillion dollars in debt, sooner or later, the bill is
going to get paid, maybe by your grandkids, but economic
reality doesn't disappear. We can't continue to live on borrowed money.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And yet we're going to try. Yes, this is unfortunately,
this is what we're doing. So yeah, out, yes indeed, so,
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In less than one hundred days, Trump has fulfilled many
(19:03):
of the promises made by Biden, Obama, Clinton, Schumer and
other Democrats. Why would Schumer say it has been one
hundred days of hell. I think the conservative media need
to resurrect all the old clips, play them, and then
acknowledge Trump's completion of their promises. The ultimate troll, Lewis,
I think this is a very good point you make.
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I think that a lot of what Trump has done
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are things that are at least have been in the
past by partisan agenda items, but Democrats were unseerious, unwilling
to do anything about it. Securing the border, for example,
they say they want to do it or at least
they have in the past, but they didn't really want
to do it, and Trump is doing it, so I
(19:47):
think that makes that's a very good point, makes a
lot of sense to bring that up. And now we
going to dive into something else here for a moment. Clay,
can I actually want to give you credit for this,
the very good observation they're having press conferences in the morning,
and Clay said, this is I think this is various, dude,
(20:08):
very true that by having their White House press conference
in the morning, it can set the agenda for the rest.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And well, I'll let you why is it good? Because
I thought this was a very uh stude observation.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, I was going to agree with whatever you were
going to give me credit for as soon as you
said it was a various stude observation. So I appreciate that.
But look, I would encourage the White House these early
morning press conferences. And I understand some of you are
going to say, that's not that early in the morning, Clay,
I get up at fo I trust me. I used
to get up at four am and do a radio show.
(20:43):
So I understand that a lot of you out there
have very early starts to your day, and I know
that what that requires. But twice this week that I
have noticed Buck, they have done eight thirty am Eastern
press conferences at the White House. I love it, and
I'll i'll tell you why. When I did early morning radio.
(21:04):
One of the things that I thought Trump did so
well in his first term was because the guy never sleeps.
I would be on Twitter at you know, five thirty
in the morning, and when I hit the refresh button,
the only new tweets that would pop up were from
President Trump. He would be up early in the morning,
(21:25):
and he would set the morning agenda by putting out
what he wanted to talk about before they can decide
what the story of.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
The day is. Most journalists, I'm just telling you this,
are lazy.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
They don't like getting up super early in the morning
and having to go to work. They have their morning
calls where CNN executives or MSNBC executives tell their staff
this is the story that we're focused on today. Trump
is stealing a march on them by having early morning
(21:59):
press conference. It requires them to be up dressed, It
sounds simple. Requires them to be up dressed and ready
there to cover whatever Trump wants the story of the
day to be and it puts them behind and advancing
whatever their agenda would be. And Buck, let me give
you an analogy. This is why some coaches want early
(22:20):
morning practices because it keeps their guys out of trouble,
you know, And it's a different sort of universe. But
when you have to be up at like six or
seven am practice And I know some of you who
have teenagers, my son this morning during the summer, they
already got their schedule football practice. He's got to be
there early in the morning. Keeps the kids out of trouble. Stinks, right,
(22:44):
But when you get home and it's eight o'clock, you're like, oh,
do I want to.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Try to do something that could get me in trouble? Nah?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
I think I'll go to bed because I got to
get up so early, and I know how tired I'm
going to be busting my ass out there. This takes
control of the agenda. I love it. I think they
should do more of it.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, look at how quickly this White House also jumps
on issues. And I do want to get to the
sports of women and men and women's sports issue here momentarily.
But there was a story out there that Amazon was
going to start putting YEP par example tariff pricing on
so you know, would say, hey, I'm buying this in
(23:23):
my case, you know, giant tub of diapers. This is
the kind of stuff that you know as well. You
have a new born there, I'm getting a giant tub
of diapers. Oh wait a second, there's a fifteen percent
or whatever it was going to be tariff pricing increase
on this, and they were going to show it to
you in real time. Trump also reportedly called Bezos right
(23:46):
away and said, this is this Well, I don't think
I can repeat on the radio what I'm sure Trump said.
I'm sure Trump was not happy about this. And Caroline
Levitt also came out this morning and said, this is
a hostile political act if that happens. And guess what
Amazon has said, No, we would never dream of such
a thing. Well, Clay, if they hadn't gotten out there
(24:08):
right away, the story all day would be, oh my gosh, Amazon,
the terriffs, blah blah blah. They go right after it
and don't allow these things to be unaddressed. Look, people
are gonna believe or not believe this White House based
on what they think going into this, but at least
now they can get This is kind of like how
Trump hacked the media in twenty sixteen by using Twitter
(24:31):
in addition to everything else, because now we know what
he thinks.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
He just tweeted about it is. That's right. We don't
have to guess.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
We'n't have to sit there and wait for the Lester
Holt interview or whatever it is to come out.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And I hated in many ways Buck getting up super
early in the morning. But what I loved was when
I finished my sports show at the time, I felt
like I completely set the agenda for what the day's
news was going to be in sports. Speaking of Trump
right now, by the way, he just admitted that he
called Bezos this morning and had good conversation with him.
(25:02):
But let's play earlier this morning, Caroline Levitt had this
to say about people who are breaking the law in
her opinion, based on federal rules that Trump has put
in place executive orders relating to men competing in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Here's what she.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Said, same thing with men in women's sports. The President
signed of very strong executive order making it the policy
of the United States federal government that there are only
two sexes, male and female, and we are not going
to tolerate biological men competing in sports or impeting in
private spaces for women like myself or you. And we've
seen states defy this federal order. You've seen the state
(25:39):
of Maine, unfortunately because of their liberal governor, who nobody
in that state disagrees with. I will add, being from
New England, I can attest to that people are incredibly
set up with her trying to oppose this common sense message.
You've seen young women who have had to go on
television to plead with their governor, please stop letting men
play against me in sports. We shouldn't live in a
(26:00):
country where that even has to happen. The President deeply
understands that. That's why he signed that EO, And when
Maine decided not to follow it, the Department of Justice
sued them. So anyone who disobeys federal law will be
either prosecuted, sued, or say goodbye to your federal funding.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
This is so important, Clay, because I do think that
the conservative side, for a long time now, we don't
want to harass people quote unquote harassed people like we
don't want to get in other people's business. We don't
want to be litigious. We're suing everybody or litigating everything.
We have no choice. The other side abuses and weaponizes
(26:42):
the law. If we don't insist that the actual law
has consequences when you violate it, we're never going to
change any of this.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
This is a you see what I mean Like, it
is not in the conservative mindset to think, you know,
we're going to sue, We're gonna take it to court.
We're going to do We're gonna have a We have
to do this. We have to do it to places
like Harvard that are abusing their access to government funds
while violating the Constitution with their racially discriminatory policies and
(27:13):
their anti Semitic stuff, etc. We also have to do
this with Title nine and men in women's sports. Notice
the other side they don't miss a beat if they
can sue. They have destroyed lots of men's programs, athletic
programs right because they can't spend the money on the
women's side of things. So you get all these weird imbalances.
(27:35):
The law has all these problems. As a result, they
never hesitate when they can use the law to their advantage.
But I think that our side, until Trump came along,
and particularly this Trump administration, has wanted to do this
the gentlemanly way. And I'm merely saying, when it comes
to this, it's the law now. It's not about being
a gentleman. It's about protecting women and protecting our girls.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Read completely, And I you know, this is a big
part of the book that I that I've just recently finished.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Buck.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I think this issue, more than any other, crystallizes if
you will argue that a dude can be a women's
sports champion, I can't trust you on anything because you
have lied to me when it comes to an opinion
that you are sharing, and once you have said that,
(28:28):
I can't trust you on anything else. And that's especially
true when you try to take the next step, Buck
and say.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, uh, you know, how are you sure?
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Well, because of the whole history of humanity, that's how
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What's your evidence?
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Humanity biology existing, the fact that if we didn't have
men's and women's sports separated, there would be no women
who would buy and large ever make a team. And
let me also tie it in here, Buck, what they
are saying I think is important we have to escalate
the expectation that the executive has the authority to implement law,
(29:11):
and if you directly oppose it, you should be held
accountable for that. And I think this applies not only
in men and women's sports, which is a cultural signpost,
but significantly when it comes to immigration. Because we saw
that judge in Milwaukee arrested, and as soon as the
details came out buck a lot of people they were
(29:32):
having protests, and then that seemed to fade a bit
because many people, even on the left, said, boy, if
this judge helped a criminal escape, it's hard to defend that.
I mean, if you had somebody who was charged with
a crime in your courtroom, leave aside the status legal
or illegal, and you help them go out of back
door when they were going to be charged with an
(29:53):
additional crime, most people would say, yeah, that's criminal by
the judge. And I I understand there are some people
who see this. I think you made the analogy as
the equivalent of like you're on the underground railroad and
you've got to help these illegal immigrants from the ice
raids and everything else. That's not an argument that resonates
with very many people out there other than the ten
(30:15):
or fifteen percent of crazy Town residents. And so I
think this is where Trump continuing to accelerate put the
gas here is good. Let me play this really quick
before we go to break, because you referenced it. Buck,
Trump talking to the media. Here's a quick response. He
talks about his phone call with Jeff Bezos this morning,
which came out of the early morning agenda setting press
(30:37):
conference with Caroline Levitt.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Listen, Jeff Bezos was very nice, he was terrific.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
He solved the problem very quickly, and he did the
right thing, and he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Buck.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
This is interesting if Bezos had to step in to
stop Amazon from doing this one. There's going to be
a lot of conversation about the relaylationship between between Bezos
and Trump, which seems to be very positive at this
point because it impacts so many things the Washington Post
certainly as well as Amazon, but also it suggests that
(31:13):
Bezos is continuing to stand up to what I would
call the left wing malcutins inside of his corporation in
a way that he was not willing to do just
a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yes, I think that the heads of companies much more
so than we have seen in decades. Feel like they
can fall back on this crazy idea of we are
capitalists running a business. We are not some kind of
social justice nonprofit that you get to shake down whenever
(31:45):
you're having a tantrum. So isn't that so much better?
Isn't that so much more sensible for all of us?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
And I'll point out Bezos suddenly got an awful lot
ballsier when he got some testosterone, moved to Florida and
got a hot girlfriend. Maybe they're disconnected, but they certainly
seem connected to me.
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Welcome Back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We were
just talking about off air. The Trump team played this
Amazon story masterfully today. They addressed it on the air
early in the morning with the press conference. Trump calls bezos,
it gets abandoned, It may well have otherwise happened, and
(34:40):
they had this all happened before most of the media
had even woken up or was aware at all of
what's going on. I'm telling you, stealing a march on
him early in the morning is incredible. Obviously it works
for Trump because the guy sleeps like three or four hours.
He's right now by the way on the road to
Michigan for a rally to celebrate one hundred days in office.
(35:00):
That's where his final rally was, right before election day,
late at night. If you remember, I believe it in
Grand Rapids, if I'm not mistaken, when he did his
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to see our two. For those of you who have
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Speaker 2 (35:36):
So I think you guys will enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Did you ever think, Clay, when you were a high
school kid playing hacky sack listening to Dave Matthews, did
you ever think that our buddies would run the country,
Because that's really what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
This is funny because you mentioned this at the inauguration.
You are like, man, there's a lot of young people.
Do you remember this. You're like, man, there's a lot
of young people in this administration. And my wife, as
she often does, immediately fired back. It's not that there's
a lot of young people in this administration. It's that
you guys are old. Now do you remember that? Ooh yeah,
(36:11):
it burns, But I will say yes, Look, Trump has
i think, not only put together an incredible amount of
talent in his cabinet, but it is a far more
youthful cabinet than we have seen in a very very
long time. When you think about Tulsea Gabbard, when you
think about Pete hag Seth, when you think about JD.
(36:31):
Vance as his vice president, People in their forties, still
hopefully at the growth point of their lives and putting
all that effort and energy behind the presidency and behind
this cabinet.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I think it's pretty fabulous. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I just meant we've been out drinking with these guys
and now they're trying to prevent nuclear war.
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