January 31, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck. That's going now.
Our friend Will Caine joins us. He is the host
of the Will Caine Show, also the Willkines Podcast, and
you can watch him every day at four Eastern on
Fox News. Mister Will. First of all, Man, congrats on
the four pm slot, richly deserved, and it is it
(00:23):
is fun for me to watch my oldest friends in media,
either taking over media or running the country, as in
the case of our good friend Pete. So it's a
lot of fun stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, thank you, my friend, both of you, my friends.
I don't know that we've done this every time we've
been on air. You know, it's fun. I saw a
hater this morning post you know what businesses Fox and
Friends have talking about the government, and then they said, well,
Fox and Friends is kind of now running the government.
So it's like and if you rewind the clock back,
(00:53):
you know, Buck, what fifteen years where we first sat
down on a table on an offshoot news network, The Blade.
You know, it's gone. Well, it's gone fun and it's
fun to look around and see secondary of defense the
Clay and Buck Show everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, first, congrats on the new show. What should people
know who have not yet gotten to see it. How
is your show different? What's kind of the goal for
the Fox News audience of what you're putting out there
every day now at four o'clock Eastern, right, four o'clock eastern.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Clay, I'm not going to give you the pr stuff,
you know, I'm just going to talk it out loud
with you guys. So, you know what the most encouraging
thing was when they called me and they said, hey,
this is what we're thinking. What do you think? Well,
the first thing I heard was from Texas, and I
was like, are you kidding me? The answer is yes.
So getting to do this show from Texas is a
(01:53):
dream for me. I left New York, you know, five
years ago, and I made it pretty clear I'm not
coming back. I just I'm from Texas, my family's from Texas,
and I have to raise my boys in Texas. So
but my point is, when they called me, Clay, they
were like, we just want you to be you. That's
all we want you to be. And I'm like, well
that's pretty cool. I don't know what that means, but
(02:15):
thank you. Yeah. So, right now, what makes this show
different is me and how I think can approach the news.
I have a lot of overlap with both of you guys.
You know, I've known you both for veryous Clay, you
and I look at things very legally and analytically and logically,
and you know that's that's how I approach most things, honestly.
Over time, I've tried, I've grown and I try not
(02:36):
to be so like black and white, you know. And
I've known Buck forever, and you know, when I knew
you a long time ago, Buck, I would have described
myself as more libertarian, and I've evolved. Man, I'm not
so much that anymore. I'm an American. That's my prism.
So when people tune it for, they're going to see
me look at the news and asking questions about what
these stories matter to Americans? Does it make our lives
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better or worse? Does it matter to us? How does
it affect our lives? And I'll try to be deep
and smart, I'll try to be fun. I'll try not
singing myself seriously, and then real quick, Clay, over time,
you're going to see this show look and feel different
than most things on Fox. It's going to be much
more relaxed but professional, you know, we're building a studio
in Dallas. It's going to reflect, you know, some of
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what I've done throughout my career with Bucket, Real News,
even ESPN and some guys at ESPN that I learned
from in terms of aesthetics and appeal, and so I
don't know, Hang in there, man, watch what we're doing
now is great. We're setting ratings records and all that.
But in six months this show is going to be
quadruple what we're doing now.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Now, will I want to know, how are you viewing
things from from your prism here we are? I think
it's a second week, right, I'm still trying to remember
when it was the inauguration feels like it went on
for quite some time, Clay, the inauguration was just just happened.
We're in the second week and Trump has just come
out with a salvo. I mean, it's just there's so
(04:00):
much stuff happening, and how are you seeing it and
what's sort of your expectation where it goes from here,
especially as somebody who goes that saying has some connections
at the top reaches of the Trump the Trumps sphere.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Somebody I did thiss like interview of the day Buck
and somebody said, they asked me, what overlaps do you
see between politics and sports? Everybody always probably does this
with Clay as well, And I'll say this, you know,
Clay Colin Coward, I think once said like they're the same,
you know, Cowboys versus Eagles. It's the same things Republican
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versus Democrats. People want to hear about their teams. I
thought that was kind of interesting, but it's not how
I see this at all. But to answer your question,
but there is something else in sports that I take
from the first two weeks of the Trump presidency, and
that is play offense. We've learned that from Donald Trump.
Always play offense, don't play defense. I mean, whatever we're on,
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how many execut give orders and executive actions are re
up to I don't know. But we're reshaping America in
a two week timeframe. And again we're just getting started
because he's playing offense. We'll see what the legislative agenda includes.
But it's incredible. And here's the real question I want
to ask you guys, like what did it come just
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in time for? Like was the left a on the
verge of consolidating power? Really? From now into an indefinite
future of controlling media, big business, government, and thought processes,
or was what we sawved the last four years actually
a desperate, dying attempt to regain control over something that
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they were losing dating back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's a great debate and it's one that historians fifty
years from now will be able to look at and say, hey,
these were the significant sort of lynch pins, and we'll
have a better answer on it. Right now, I would
say el buying Twitter and Trump being elected and not
just being elected, but winning the popular vote, i e.
(06:07):
Winning comfortably in the electoral college, winning all the battleground states.
I think is symptomatic. Right now, my thesis would be
will that they created with social media platforms and artificial
version of reality. Remember that debate we used to always
have is Twitter real life or not? And a lot
of people thought it was, and I think finally they
(06:29):
pushed it and it blew up on them, and it's
almost like this is the swing back to sanity, But
we never really left. They just convinced us that the
world was different than it was.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Does that make sense, Yeah, and then began to consolidate
control based upon that false reality, and it was a
house of cards that came tumbling down, and we're watching
it being torn down now in real time.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think they went I think to echo. I think
where both of you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Guys are on this, that what we experienced with the
left in the era of really the era of Trump
Biden Trump right, I mean, going back all the way,
was the combination of panic at their fear of losing
control and exuberance at their sense of having total control.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And I know that those things seem like they're in
but they're they're they're often in contention. You look at
the totalitarian regime. They exercise the absolute control they can,
and they're always paranoid about losing control at the same time.
And I think that that really came to a head
in COVID and also with their dominance of Silicon Valley
and the Internet in a way that people just realize
(07:37):
this is this is about to take. I think America
was actually on the brink of taking a turn into
a very it even darker and scarier place than it
was under Joe Biden. And I think that what we've
seen with Trump is at least a stay on that,
if not perhaps the opening of a new direction for
us to go in. I mean a way that it's
hard to look at these two weeks and not feel
(07:58):
like Trump Will has a an a sense of urgency
that was not there in the first term. I think
the first term is like, oh wow, we won, We'll
do some good stuff. We're gonna kind of figure this out,
you know, let's build. Let's build the boat as we
as we sail it. And this time around, it is
there's no time to lose. The country is at stake.
Let's start taking this thing in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And Buck, You've goed me a long time. I've had
an aversion.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And almost fifteen years, Will, I'm just we're kind of
old now, buddy. We're going back like twenty eleven, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Years, I know, and we debate each other, and you know,
some of my instincts. I've had an aversion throughout my
life to partisan politics, Like I just don't like the
idea of being on a political team. It's just not
like it just doesn't come eas with me. I'm laying
this runway to tell you I've never been more enthusiastic
about the political state of America and what Trump is
calling the Golden age that I am right now. But
(08:52):
there's a reason for that, buck. It's I think we
are right now in this moment. It won't last forever,
but we are actually in an a police moment. This
is not left right Republican Democrat. We left that stupid
bipolar spectrum a long time ago, to your point, probably
starting in sixteen, like we really it doesn't mean anything anymore.
(09:13):
And what Trump is And again, I know it can
be sycomantic or sound like you're repeating talking points, but
this age of common sense thing, the revolution of common
sense is real. And so to celebrate this golden age
moment to me, isn't like waving your pomp poms for
one particular political party. It's raising your pomp poms for
sanity and oh my god, yes, we understand the things
(09:35):
that make America unique, and we're not ashamed of who
we are, and we're gonna honor merit. Like if you
guys want to make that left right thing, if you
want to make that a team thing, fine, that's fine
with me. But I'm gonna celebrate eternal values.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Here who is doing things and isn't insane in the
Democrat Party. Right now, you said you you don't want
to get but I do think it's interesting. I'm sure
you saw stephen A. Smith at like two perc sent
support to be the Democrat nominee. Uh Kamala. We didn't
even play this audio yet, but yesterday the DNC said,
raise your hand if you think racism and misogyny, you know,
(10:11):
contributed to way Kamala lost. Like they're so far down
the identity politics trail. Who on the Democrat side is like, Hey,
this is crazy. I can't even find anybody. It's it's
I mean, Fetterman maybe, but he's not exactly an eloquent voice.
Who do you see as like somebody who could lead
the Democrat Party out of crazy town?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
No, no one except for who you mentioned Clay. By
the way, Clay, you had to been a little bombed.
You're like, I was gonna your name was going to
show up on some presidential polling poll before Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I actually, I actually said after steven A got two,
I was like, I have to be able to get
more than two on the Republican side. If steven A
can get two on the Democrat side, they got to
include me somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The question is Clay, who runs for governor first, you
for Tennessee or me for Texas. It's betterment to answer
your question. I mean, if there is an answer, the
answer is probably there is not someone right now. But
if there is, it's Fetterman, because at least there is
a sense that he is approaching things from some practical,
common sense perspective. He lands wrong on a whole host
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of issues, but he's authentic the I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Wait, well, can we just step back for one second.
And I'm not disagreeing with your veeder and position at all.
But the guy who had a severe stroke and was
having trouble speaking, and that's just a matter of fact.
I'm not not mocking. He was very serious. But that
guy is the most sensible Democrat on the scene now
from that position of eternal values and centrism and things
(11:42):
like that. I mean, he's the least crazy democrat.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you've seen the jokes. Apparently the cure to leftism
is having a stroke.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, then you can see the.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Light, you know, the fun that the thing about. I mean,
by the way, Buck, I want to interview him, like
the invite is out, and I'm going to probably start
with an apology. Like I was pretty hard on him.
I was more hard on the Democratic voter for saying
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I was hard on him too.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I've actually apologized, well just not not to interrupt you, sorry,
but on the sho I've said, you know, I think
I was too harsh on Fetterman because he actually has
been pretty reasonable and pretty good on some issues, keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And recovered and recovered more than I ever could have expected.
And he's an inspiration on that front. It's more an
indictment of the Democratic voter who is like stroke can't talk,
no problem vote him in. But the authenticity element is
interesting because it's a huge appeal. I mean, Trump is
nothing if not authentic, So Fetterman's authentic. But like, authenticity
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is a necessary but not sufficient bar you have to cross,
Like then you got to be kind of likable after
being real. And it's not that he's unlikable. It's like
the whole hoodie and basketball shorts thing. Yeah, I appreciate
that that's real, but that probably precludes you from being president,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean, he showed up at the inauguration in a
hoodie in shorts. I mean, and there's a difference between
being authentic, likable and real and also be not weird. Right,
So the the hoodie and the shorts, everything moves into
weird category for most people. Like if he showed up
at the presidential debate in a hoodie in shorts, you know,
I think a lot of people would say, Okay, fine,
(13:18):
I get it, but this is weird.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We can't we just can't run that out on the
world stage. Sorry, John, Sorry, Yeah, just gonna gonna have
to pass.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Like not wearing a tie or like wearing a sweater instead.
Like maybe you can evolve and say, hey, you don't
have to be in a suit and tie. I can
understand that argument, but yeah, there is a limit there.
Last question for you, by the way, Will, where were
you when you heard Pete was getting the Department of
Defense secretary nomination? And what was your first thought?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Where was I Clay or was I well? I think
I was home in Dallas and.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm sure your phone blew up, like oh.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It did it did? It didn't come one hundred percent
out of the blue for me, because I knew some
things could possibly be in the works, and it happened
pretty quickly. But if you date back to the summer
when we interviewed Trump, he said right there on camera,
you'd be great. I'd love to have you Secretary of Defense. So,
I mean I kind of knew that that was a potentiality,
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even if it sounded, you know, unlikely at first. But
as it kind of slow rolled along, it's like, I
don't know the right analogy, but it is like maybe
if you're a Patriots fan and you come back from
twenty eight three in the Super Bowl against the Atlanta Falcons,
like that this pump or Vince Young fourth and seven
from the you know, fourth and goal from the seven
(14:40):
against USC You're just like, oh my god, it freking happens. Man,
that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, uh Will Will grads like, like Buck said, we've
known you for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say, man, everants to go check
out the show four o'clock. I know your ratings already huge, Will,
but we got a big radio audience, so they can
join they can join in the fray.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Thanks so much to I'll see you guys four.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Make clear schedules, thank you.
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Speaker 3 (16:02):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. It's funny, Buck,
you mentioned that it's hard to even keep in mind
how long Trump has been office because he's done so
much and there have been so many different stories, and
(16:22):
he has flooded the zone to such an extent that
for the most part, no one story has really lingered.
He's taken so many actions. And I give credit to
Steven Miller because he's the first person I said, start
talking about this. You can't tiptoe up to things. The
other thing I will say buck is almost no leaks,
(16:43):
almost none of what Trump was going to do, meaning
other than what he himself said he was going to do.
There are no real stories that I'm seeing in the
New York Times or the Washington Post trying to get
ahead of the actions he's going to take to undercut
his ability to do so. It's a much more disciplined
white House so far.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yes, and the speed with which they are acting on
things I think goes to it's also a more efficient
white house. So there's no leaks. You have people in
the right places, you have the right team. There was
a learning curve from and Trump has said this himself.
So people said, no, there wasn't a learning curve.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Trump has admitted this from his first term to now,
of course, But that's human nature. You've never been president before,
You've been president for four years and then you get
another shot at it. You've learned some things, You've seen
some stuff, and in the case of Donald Trump, seen
more than any president in generations and also as a
candidate too. So yeah, I am. I'm very hopeful that
(17:47):
this will continue. And I love the momentum because this
eighteen months is critical not just for the Trump term,
but for the country.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
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Buck and it is a Friday for us here. I'm
(19:02):
going to just tell you all Sunder right now. Clay
is a little under the weather, but he is a
nervous He's a nervous fuck. So he's he's he did
not want to leave a single minute of this show.
I keep telling him, Clay, it's fine, you know you'll
be back Monday. It's fine. He goes, no, I shall not.
Because also he doesn't want to miss any of the
memes you guys are making, you know what I mean.
(19:22):
He's he doesn't want to miss out on any of
the Clay flute memes. So he's speaking it out and
staying through. I right now, am on first. Fortunately I
have not gotten sick that much in recent years. But
anybody out.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There, when you feel that you are rapidly declining in
health and you feel like a sickness is coming on.
That's where I am right now, and I'm just like,
how bad is it going to be? Is it the flu?
Is it like a little stomach bug? Like? How bad
is it going to Because I'm supposed to be getting
on a plane to New York in about two hours
(20:01):
to go to New York City to host Fox and
Friends this weekend, So I'm like, how bad is it
going to be? Anyway? That is inside the inside the
universe here. If you're watching on video, I am wearing
a green shirt, but I may be looking a bit
green as well. We didn't mention this buck. Facebook has
(20:24):
settled for twenty five million dollars Trump's lawsuit against Meta Facebook,
Instagram for banning him from all of the social media sites,
and that now means that ABC News has given fifteen
million dollars to Trump, and most of this money, it's
my understanding, is going to go to his presidential libraries.
(20:47):
So that's now forty million dollars for the Trump Library.
There are reports from the Wall Street Journal that CBS
News is going to be potentially settling with him over
the editing of a sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris
and Brendan Carr, who was taking over the FCC I
(21:08):
have said, is demanding a transcript of that sixty minutes
Kamala Harris interview. I know it's kind of slid under
the radar, But how strange is it buck that that
interview which did not go well for Kamala Harris and
was sliced and diced in so many different directions, Why
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would CBS News not give everyone the transcript or post
the full interview? In totality, that has always been a
lingering suspicion of mine that she was even worse in
that interview and that they are trying to protect her
in some way or what happened? Was the interview stopped?
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Did they restart? Like? What is? What are they trying
to keep the public from seeing?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, well, I think we all know that they exercise
their editorial judgment, so to speak, on behalf of their
partisan inclinations all the time, right, So whatever's going to
make Kama look good and Trump look bad is what
they were willing to do. This also even goes back
to the Obama administration. If you remember, there was a
photograph of Obama shaking hands with Farakhan, and the photographer
(22:17):
chose not to. I mean, that's a photo that would
get some attention. The photographer chose not to publicize it
or use it because there was a decision made that
didn't want to hurt Obama's chances to win the election.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, So this is stuff that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Has been known for a long time, and I think
it's more obvious now that it's ever been. Did you
see the back and forth with Kamala's some of the
Kamala surrogates trying to say that Joe Rogan, you know,
didn't really like he didn't actually want to have her
on and if he had had her on, everyon would
have seen that she's great, And then everyone the no, yeah, exactly,
(22:56):
like you can't rewrite this history now. You should have
figured out a way to get on the show and
show everybody. And also they didn't want to do the
show because they were trying to hid Kamala, so they're
just trying to have it every which way.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
They also made it whatever is necessary happened to do
to call her Daddy podcast. So, I mean, the reports
are that they flew her in and built an entire set.
Remember that story that I think she confirmed. They didn't
do it in LA They did it somewhere else, but
they rebuilt the Kamala Harris did team did her entire
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set to allow that to take place. You have access
to unlimited jet travel. Joe Rogan does his show in Austin, Texas,
is my understanding. Donald Trump flew in there and did
three hours with Joe Rogan, if I remember correctly, in
his studio as the guests do. Kamala Harris was given
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the same opportunity and she didn't do it. And the
fact now that they're trying to complain and say that
somehow that's someone else's fault. You can do any media
outlet in America that you want to do. When you
run for president of the United States, every single media
company in America wants to interview you as frequently as
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they possibly can, because you are running for the most
important office in the world and whatever you say is
particularly newsworthy. So why in the world would you not
take advantage to avail yourself there. I think what this
really gets down to buck is and you know, Mayor
Pete has taken his pronouns now out of his bio
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as there are rumors that he may run for statewide
office in Michigan, either Senate or for or for the governorship.
I think Democrats don't understand men. They don't know how
to talk to men, they don't know what normal men
are like. And in their retrospective analysis of the campaign,
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they are recognizing that they totally misfired in all respects.
I mean, I would just tell you this, Tim Walls
is not a dude that most dudes consider to be
a normal dude. Right, so they recognized, well, can I
just just what what what they add to this claim?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And the whole point was that he was supposed to
us dude that dudes would think was a normal dude.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's right. So they don't have the tools they can
recognize what the problem is, and the problem is, Okay,
we're not appealing to men. And they thought, oh, Tim
Walls is our answer to that. But remember we said
this on the show. Most normal guys are not suddenly
fooled when someone pretends to be something that they're not.
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And so when he was walking around with a gun,
they put him in carhart, they put him in a
camo hat. Remember they were like, oh, we're going to
talk to the camo hat wearing men of America, and
really it actually I think backfired on them because it's
more insult to most people who live where I live
to pretend to be something that you're not then just
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to be something different than them. And I think Democrats
are aware that they have a real problem with men,
young men in particular, but they don't realize that that
problem is actually their policies, not the way that they're perceived.
And so when you think that's just about how you're perceived,
you end up trotting out Tim Walls and remember Buck,
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They had him playing Madden against AOC in a hotel
ballroom and a desperate attempt to try to appeal to
normal guys out there. And he's just fake, right, I mean,
they send him to football games, but the guy comes
out and he does high leg kicks and he does
the weird waving and he's just a weird dude. And
(26:53):
it's ironic because Tim Walls may well have been the
pick because he had a viral moment where he claimed
that Donald Trump and JD. Vance were weird. And I
think the best thing you can say about Trump and
Vance is they actually come across as fairly normal dudes,
and you can't fake that. I don't think I think
(27:16):
people see it. You know, we just had will on
and will Kine said, Hey, you want to be authentic,
but then you also want to be likable, and sometimes
the likable aspect of the authenticity doesn't come across. Like
Fetterman is authentic, but wearing you know, I'm wearing athletic
(27:36):
shorts and a hoodie to a wedding or to an
inauguration is authentic maybe to his fashion sense, but it
also strikes your normal person as just being too far right,
it's too weird. I think the Veke may have this
problem on some level. We'll see how he appeals running
for Ohio governor. He comes across and I think he
(27:57):
got dinged on this in a debate sometimes as the
smartest kid in the room who's always got his hand
up to answer a question, and that doesn't feel normal
over time. Right, It's a try hard element that I
think can.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Exhilt a lack of humility. You know, he should work
on his backhand on the tennis court a little more
before he posts videos. I'm just saying, like, you want
to always approach things a little more humble, which is,
even when you're out there on the stage, even when
you're telling people you want to fix the country, you
want ever to know that you know that you're not perfect,
and the presentation of the perfect is always something that
people will find suspicious.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think that's all said, and I think that's one
of the big challenges that Democrats have going forward. They
don't really have a guy who's a normal guy. Remember
when they had Schumer try to look like he was
grilling Hamburgers, and the picture of Schumer grilling Hamburgers like
he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Again,
(28:56):
you don't have to pretend to do things that normal
guys do. Everybody's not into all the same stuff. Just
be you. They just don't have a normal dude. I mean, again,
I think a white dude for Harris by and large,
most white dudes for Harris actually kind of weird losers.
I'm sorry, that's just kind of the way that I feel.
(29:18):
They're socially awkward, maladroit, not normal guys. You know, the
culture has shifted so much that I think for a
lot of people now in it it's hard to like
quantify this, but it used to be that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I think that celebrities would walk around, you know, particularly
like actors, you know, kind of pop musicians, and if
they were going to get you know, if they're going
to mouth off about politics, they're always going to take
a very orthodox, hard left view on things and just
expect adulation. I think now they're a little more careful,
(29:57):
some of them are going to be a little more
careful about where they let that stuff fly. I don't
necessarily even mean with the press present. I just mean
in general in their lives. Like I think people no
longer the day, the sort of day facto or the
on its face reflexive view is no longer if I
say something left wing, everyone's going to clap for me.
(30:20):
I think that's totally Pronouns in the Bio is a
very good example of this.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think that's totally true. I also think it's a
function of the rigged algorithm because those people were getting affirmation.
We know they're going to get it from the media,
right because overwhelmingly the media's left wing, but they were trending,
the comments were mostly positive. They had the algorithm rigged
(30:45):
to such an extent that normalcy and common sense was
devalued and you didn't actually see the normal position of
the average American. And then what happens is the algorithm
gets so pop popular buck a lot of people just
fake it. They'll do whatever they think is popular to
try to keep their job. And then suddenly it starts
(31:08):
to swing back the other direction. And frankly, we don't
get that many opportunities, even in a democratic republic, to
really render our verdict. I think we would have gotten
a big one in twenty but for COVID, Trump was
a signpost. But I come back to it again. Trump
added twelve million votes between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
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wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck,
Sexton Show Buck. In addition to doing the most listened
to radio show in the country, can you tell the
full scope of this story right now? For people who
don't know Pete Hegset just responded to a video that
you had posted on on social media this morning, I believe, yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So an insider came to me, uh, someone someone that
I trust, and said, look, you've got to see what's
going on. They have completely let Walter Reed, which is
the premiere medical military facility in the country, deteriorate to
the point where they've now got burst pipes, that've got
whole wings that are shut down, there's flooding, there's all
(33:42):
kinds of damage. I mean, this is you know, in
Walter Reed Hospital in Bethesda. And so this person got
me the video and I posted it and it got
you know, got some people's attention because this is supposed
to be at at constant readiness as well. Walter Reed
is you know, if they have to get an influx
of troops that are attacked or injured, or you know,
if God forbid something happens in d C. To some
(34:04):
of our officials were just it's supposed to be at
constant readiness and they had to I think they had
to shut down like non emergency surgery, and it's been
a mess. And so I shared the video, which got
a lot of attention. Now the Washington Post has I mean,
I can't say broken, because I guess I kind of
broke it now. The Washington Post is writing it up
as well, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, who you
(34:27):
and I know well, responded to the video saying he's
looked into it. At Walter Reed, it is unacceptable as
a result of deferred maintenance under the last administration. My
staff is prioritizing fixing this, and under this president, our
troops will only receive the best care. And I responded,
thank you, Secretary Hegseth.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I know you're on it.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I know you're going to fix the mess that was,
you know, left behind, But you know they're just just
bringing it right to the people, just bringing it right
to the forefront. And Hegseth is on it, and we
need to get it for you. Good for Pete, Good
for the guy who sent you the video.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Walter Reed is supposed to be the best military hospital
in the entire United States, right, so the idea that
there would be any sort of disgusting maintenance flood related
issues that have been allowed to occur at that hospital
is frankly unacceptable. And so I'm glad you got the video.
(35:21):
I'm glad you shared it and glad that Pete Hegseth,
Secretary of Defense, has already responded and said he's on it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's amazing because I also, I mean, Pete's on it.
We know Pete, he's the Secretary of Defense. He is
going to fix this. Yeah, that's you know. As soon
as I'm looking at this and I go, oh, okay,
Pete knows about it. Problem about to be solved. I mean,
he's got It's going to take a few days, I'm sure,
but he's going to have this all squared away. What
a different world we are living in now from even
(35:49):
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's amazing. It's amazing, and I think all of us
have to continue to be incredibly thankful and vigilant. My
biggest concern, Buck is that Trump is going to do
so much in the first year or so that he's
going to look around and be like, Okay, like I've
kind of got everything back ship righted. But I think
(36:12):
you said something important, which is, remember a lot of
these executive orders, unless they're accompanied by congressional law or
court rulings, are right to be overturned. In the event
that Democrats win back control of the White House in
twenty twenty eight, so we have to keep adding on steam.
But as good as Trump is, he can only be
(36:35):
the start of something. He can't solve it forever, and
so I think that's important to keep in mind.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Just wait until the congressional fights on major legislation get
underway here. Don't worry. We're gonna hold feet to the fire.
We'll take care of a team. See you all on Monday.
All right, third hour, Clay and Buck. That's going now.
Our friend Will Caine joins us. He is the host
of the Will Caine Show, also the Willkines Podcast, and
you can watch him every day at four Eastern on
Fox News. Mister Will. First of all, Man, congrats on
the four pm slot, richly deserved, and it is it
(00:23):
is fun for me to watch my oldest friends in media,
either taking over media or running the country, as in
the case of our good friend Pete. So it's a
lot of fun stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, thank you, my friend, both of you, my friends.
I don't know that we've done this every time we've
been on air. You know, it's fun. I saw a
hater this morning post you know what businesses Fox and
Friends have talking about the government, and then they said, well,
Fox and Friends is kind of now running the government.
So it's like and if you rewind the clock back,
(00:53):
you know, Buck, what fifteen years where we first sat
down on a table on an offshoot news network, The Blade.
You know, it's gone. Well, it's gone fun and it's
fun to look around and see secondary of defense the
Clay and Buck Show everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, first, congrats on the new show. What should people
know who have not yet gotten to see it. How
is your show different? What's kind of the goal for
the Fox News audience of what you're putting out there
every day now at four o'clock Eastern, right, four o'clock eastern.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Clay, I'm not going to give you the pr stuff,
you know, I'm just going to talk it out loud
with you guys. So, you know what the most encouraging
thing was when they called me and they said, hey,
this is what we're thinking. What do you think? Well,
the first thing I heard was from Texas, and I
was like, are you kidding me? The answer is yes.
So getting to do this show from Texas is a
(01:53):
dream for me. I left New York, you know, five
years ago, and I made it pretty clear I'm not
coming back. I just I'm from Texas, my family's from Texas,
and I have to raise my boys in Texas. So
but my point is, when they called me, Clay, they
were like, we just want you to be you. That's
all we want you to be. And I'm like, well
that's pretty cool. I don't know what that means, but
(02:15):
thank you. Yeah. So, right now, what makes this show
different is me and how I think can approach the news.
I have a lot of overlap with both of you guys.
You know, I've known you both for veryous Clay, you
and I look at things very legally and analytically and logically,
and you know that's that's how I approach most things, honestly.
Over time, I've tried, I've grown and I try not
(02:36):
to be so like black and white, you know. And
I've known Buck forever, and you know, when I knew
you a long time ago, Buck, I would have described
myself as more libertarian, and I've evolved. Man, I'm not
so much that anymore. I'm an American. That's my prism.
So when people tune it for, they're going to see
me look at the news and asking questions about what
these stories matter to Americans? Does it make our lives
(02:57):
better or worse? Does it matter to us? How does
it affect our lives? And I'll try to be deep
and smart, I'll try to be fun. I'll try not
singing myself seriously, and then real quick, Clay, over time,
you're going to see this show look and feel different
than most things on Fox. It's going to be much
more relaxed but professional, you know, we're building a studio
in Dallas. It's going to reflect, you know, some of
(03:19):
what I've done throughout my career with Bucket, Real News,
even ESPN and some guys at ESPN that I learned
from in terms of aesthetics and appeal, and so I
don't know, Hang in there, man, watch what we're doing
now is great. We're setting ratings records and all that.
But in six months this show is going to be
quadruple what we're doing now.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Now, will I want to know, how are you viewing
things from from your prism here we are? I think
it's a second week, right, I'm still trying to remember
when it was the inauguration feels like it went on
for quite some time, Clay, the inauguration was just just happened.
We're in the second week and Trump has just come
out with a salvo. I mean, it's just there's so
(04:00):
much stuff happening, and how are you seeing it and
what's sort of your expectation where it goes from here,
especially as somebody who goes that saying has some connections
at the top reaches of the Trump the Trumps sphere.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Somebody I did thiss like interview of the day Buck
and somebody said, they asked me, what overlaps do you
see between politics and sports? Everybody always probably does this
with Clay as well, And I'll say this, you know,
Clay Colin Coward, I think once said like they're the same,
you know, Cowboys versus Eagles. It's the same things Republican
(04:38):
versus Democrats. People want to hear about their teams. I
thought that was kind of interesting, but it's not how
I see this at all. But to answer your question,
but there is something else in sports that I take
from the first two weeks of the Trump presidency, and
that is play offense. We've learned that from Donald Trump.
Always play offense, don't play defense. I mean, whatever we're on,
(04:59):
how many execut give orders and executive actions are re
up to I don't know. But we're reshaping America in
a two week timeframe. And again we're just getting started
because he's playing offense. We'll see what the legislative agenda includes.
But it's incredible. And here's the real question I want
to ask you guys, like what did it come just
(05:19):
in time for? Like was the left a on the
verge of consolidating power? Really? From now into an indefinite
future of controlling media, big business, government, and thought processes,
or was what we sawved the last four years actually
a desperate, dying attempt to regain control over something that
(05:41):
they were losing dating back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's a great debate and it's one that historians fifty
years from now will be able to look at and say, hey,
these were the significant sort of lynch pins, and we'll
have a better answer on it. Right now, I would
say el buying Twitter and Trump being elected and not
just being elected, but winning the popular vote, i e.
(06:07):
Winning comfortably in the electoral college, winning all the battleground states.
I think is symptomatic. Right now, my thesis would be
will that they created with social media platforms and artificial
version of reality. Remember that debate we used to always
have is Twitter real life or not? And a lot
of people thought it was, and I think finally they
(06:29):
pushed it and it blew up on them, and it's
almost like this is the swing back to sanity, But
we never really left. They just convinced us that the
world was different than it was.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Does that make sense, Yeah, and then began to consolidate
control based upon that false reality, and it was a
house of cards that came tumbling down, and we're watching
it being torn down now in real time.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I think they went I think to echo. I think
where both of you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Guys are on this, that what we experienced with the
left in the era of really the era of Trump
Biden Trump right, I mean, going back all the way,
was the combination of panic at their fear of losing
control and exuberance at their sense of having total control.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And I know that those things seem like they're in
but they're they're they're often in contention. You look at
the totalitarian regime. They exercise the absolute control they can,
and they're always paranoid about losing control at the same time.
And I think that that really came to a head
in COVID and also with their dominance of Silicon Valley
and the Internet in a way that people just realize
(07:37):
this is this is about to take. I think America
was actually on the brink of taking a turn into
a very it even darker and scarier place than it
was under Joe Biden. And I think that what we've
seen with Trump is at least a stay on that,
if not perhaps the opening of a new direction for
us to go in. I mean a way that it's
hard to look at these two weeks and not feel
(07:58):
like Trump Will has a an a sense of urgency
that was not there in the first term. I think
the first term is like, oh wow, we won, We'll
do some good stuff. We're gonna kind of figure this out,
you know, let's build. Let's build the boat as we
as we sail it. And this time around, it is
there's no time to lose. The country is at stake.
Let's start taking this thing in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And Buck, You've goed me a long time. I've had
an aversion.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And almost fifteen years, Will, I'm just we're kind of
old now, buddy. We're going back like twenty eleven, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Years, I know, and we debate each other, and you know,
some of my instincts. I've had an aversion throughout my
life to partisan politics, Like I just don't like the
idea of being on a political team. It's just not
like it just doesn't come eas with me. I'm laying
this runway to tell you I've never been more enthusiastic
about the political state of America and what Trump is
calling the Golden age that I am right now. But
(08:52):
there's a reason for that, buck. It's I think we
are right now in this moment. It won't last forever,
but we are actually in an a police moment. This
is not left right Republican Democrat. We left that stupid
bipolar spectrum a long time ago, to your point, probably
starting in sixteen, like we really it doesn't mean anything anymore.
(09:13):
And what Trump is And again, I know it can
be sycomantic or sound like you're repeating talking points, but
this age of common sense thing, the revolution of common
sense is real. And so to celebrate this golden age
moment to me, isn't like waving your pomp poms for
one particular political party. It's raising your pomp poms for
sanity and oh my god, yes, we understand the things
(09:35):
that make America unique, and we're not ashamed of who
we are, and we're gonna honor merit. Like if you
guys want to make that left right thing, if you
want to make that a team thing, fine, that's fine
with me. But I'm gonna celebrate eternal values.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Here who is doing things and isn't insane in the
Democrat Party. Right now, you said you you don't want
to get but I do think it's interesting. I'm sure
you saw stephen A. Smith at like two perc sent
support to be the Democrat nominee. Uh Kamala. We didn't
even play this audio yet, but yesterday the DNC said,
raise your hand if you think racism and misogyny, you know,
(10:11):
contributed to way Kamala lost. Like they're so far down
the identity politics trail. Who on the Democrat side is like, Hey,
this is crazy. I can't even find anybody. It's it's
I mean, Fetterman maybe, but he's not exactly an eloquent voice.
Who do you see as like somebody who could lead
the Democrat Party out of crazy town?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
No, no one except for who you mentioned Clay. By
the way, Clay, you had to been a little bombed.
You're like, I was gonna your name was going to
show up on some presidential polling poll before Stephen A. Smith.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I actually, I actually said after steven A got two,
I was like, I have to be able to get
more than two on the Republican side. If steven A
can get two on the Democrat side, they got to
include me somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
The question is Clay, who runs for governor first, you
for Tennessee or me for Texas. It's betterment to answer
your question. I mean, if there is an answer, the
answer is probably there is not someone right now. But
if there is, it's Fetterman, because at least there is
a sense that he is approaching things from some practical,
common sense perspective. He lands wrong on a whole host
(11:15):
of issues, but he's authentic the I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Wait, well, can we just step back for one second.
And I'm not disagreeing with your veeder and position at all.
But the guy who had a severe stroke and was
having trouble speaking, and that's just a matter of fact.
I'm not not mocking. He was very serious. But that
guy is the most sensible Democrat on the scene now
from that position of eternal values and centrism and things
(11:42):
like that. I mean, he's the least crazy democrat.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you've seen the jokes. Apparently the cure to leftism
is having a stroke.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, yeah, then you can see the.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Light, you know, the fun that the thing about. I mean,
by the way, Buck, I want to interview him, like
the invite is out, and I'm going to probably start
with an apology. Like I was pretty hard on him.
I was more hard on the Democratic voter for saying
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I was hard on him too.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I've actually apologized, well just not not to interrupt you, sorry,
but on the sho I've said, you know, I think
I was too harsh on Fetterman because he actually has
been pretty reasonable and pretty good on some issues, keep going.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And recovered and recovered more than I ever could have expected.
And he's an inspiration on that front. It's more an
indictment of the Democratic voter who is like stroke can't talk,
no problem vote him in. But the authenticity element is
interesting because it's a huge appeal. I mean, Trump is
nothing if not authentic, So Fetterman's authentic. But like, authenticity
(12:38):
is a necessary but not sufficient bar you have to cross,
Like then you got to be kind of likable after
being real. And it's not that he's unlikable. It's like
the whole hoodie and basketball shorts thing. Yeah, I appreciate
that that's real, but that probably precludes you from being president,
you know.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean, he showed up at the inauguration in a
hoodie in shorts. I mean, and there's a difference between
being authentic, likable and real and also be not weird. Right,
So the the hoodie and the shorts, everything moves into
weird category for most people. Like if he showed up
at the presidential debate in a hoodie in shorts, you know,
I think a lot of people would say, Okay, fine,
(13:18):
I get it, but this is weird.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We can't we just can't run that out on the
world stage. Sorry, John, Sorry, Yeah, just gonna gonna have
to pass.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Like not wearing a tie or like wearing a sweater instead.
Like maybe you can evolve and say, hey, you don't
have to be in a suit and tie. I can
understand that argument, but yeah, there is a limit there.
Last question for you, by the way, Will, where were
you when you heard Pete was getting the Department of
Defense secretary nomination? And what was your first thought?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Where was I Clay or was I well? I think
I was home in Dallas and.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm sure your phone blew up, like oh.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It did it did? It didn't come one hundred percent
out of the blue for me, because I knew some
things could possibly be in the works, and it happened
pretty quickly. But if you date back to the summer
when we interviewed Trump, he said right there on camera,
you'd be great. I'd love to have you Secretary of Defense. So,
I mean I kind of knew that that was a potentiality,
(14:19):
even if it sounded, you know, unlikely at first. But
as it kind of slow rolled along, it's like, I
don't know the right analogy, but it is like maybe
if you're a Patriots fan and you come back from
twenty eight three in the Super Bowl against the Atlanta Falcons,
like that this pump or Vince Young fourth and seven
from the you know, fourth and goal from the seven
(14:40):
against USC You're just like, oh my god, it freking happens. Man,
that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, uh Will Will grads like, like Buck said, we've
known you for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say, man, everants to go check
out the show four o'clock. I know your ratings already huge, Will,
but we got a big radio audience, so they can
join they can join in the fray.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Thanks so much to I'll see you guys four.
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Make clear schedules, thank you.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. It's funny, Buck,
you mentioned that it's hard to even keep in mind
how long Trump has been office because he's done so
much and there have been so many different stories, and
(16:22):
he has flooded the zone to such an extent that
for the most part, no one story has really lingered.
He's taken so many actions. And I give credit to
Steven Miller because he's the first person I said, start
talking about this. You can't tiptoe up to things. The
other thing I will say buck is almost no leaks,
(16:43):
almost none of what Trump was going to do, meaning
other than what he himself said he was going to do.
There are no real stories that I'm seeing in the
New York Times or the Washington Post trying to get
ahead of the actions he's going to take to undercut
his ability to do so. It's a much more disciplined
white House so far.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yes, and the speed with which they are acting on
things I think goes to it's also a more efficient
white house. So there's no leaks. You have people in
the right places, you have the right team. There was
a learning curve from and Trump has said this himself.
So people said, no, there wasn't a learning curve.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Trump has admitted this from his first term to now,
of course, But that's human nature. You've never been president before,
You've been president for four years and then you get
another shot at it. You've learned some things, You've seen
some stuff, and in the case of Donald Trump, seen
more than any president in generations and also as a
candidate too. So yeah, I am. I'm very hopeful that
(17:47):
this will continue. And I love the momentum because this
eighteen months is critical not just for the Trump term,
but for the country.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
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Buck and it is a Friday for us here. I'm
(19:02):
going to just tell you all Sunder right now. Clay
is a little under the weather, but he is a
nervous He's a nervous fuck. So he's he's he did
not want to leave a single minute of this show.
I keep telling him, Clay, it's fine, you know you'll
be back Monday. It's fine. He goes, no, I shall not.
Because also he doesn't want to miss any of the
memes you guys are making, you know what I mean.
(19:22):
He's he doesn't want to miss out on any of
the Clay flute memes. So he's speaking it out and
staying through. I right now, am on first. Fortunately I
have not gotten sick that much in recent years. But
anybody out.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
There, when you feel that you are rapidly declining in
health and you feel like a sickness is coming on.
That's where I am right now, and I'm just like,
how bad is it going to be? Is it the flu?
Is it like a little stomach bug? Like? How bad
is it going to Because I'm supposed to be getting
on a plane to New York in about two hours
(20:01):
to go to New York City to host Fox and
Friends this weekend, So I'm like, how bad is it
going to be? Anyway? That is inside the inside the
universe here. If you're watching on video, I am wearing
a green shirt, but I may be looking a bit
green as well. We didn't mention this buck. Facebook has
(20:24):
settled for twenty five million dollars Trump's lawsuit against Meta Facebook,
Instagram for banning him from all of the social media sites,
and that now means that ABC News has given fifteen
million dollars to Trump, and most of this money, it's
my understanding, is going to go to his presidential libraries.
(20:47):
So that's now forty million dollars for the Trump Library.
There are reports from the Wall Street Journal that CBS
News is going to be potentially settling with him over
the editing of a sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris
and Brendan Carr, who was taking over the FCC I
(21:08):
have said, is demanding a transcript of that sixty minutes
Kamala Harris interview. I know it's kind of slid under
the radar, But how strange is it buck that that
interview which did not go well for Kamala Harris and
was sliced and diced in so many different directions, Why
(21:28):
would CBS News not give everyone the transcript or post
the full interview? In totality, that has always been a
lingering suspicion of mine that she was even worse in
that interview and that they are trying to protect her
in some way or what happened? Was the interview stopped?
(21:50):
Did they restart? Like? What is? What are they trying
to keep the public from seeing?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, well, I think we all know that they exercise
their editorial judgment, so to speak, on behalf of their
partisan inclinations all the time, right, So whatever's going to
make Kama look good and Trump look bad is what
they were willing to do. This also even goes back
to the Obama administration. If you remember, there was a
photograph of Obama shaking hands with Farakhan, and the photographer
(22:17):
chose not to. I mean, that's a photo that would
get some attention. The photographer chose not to publicize it
or use it because there was a decision made that
didn't want to hurt Obama's chances to win the election.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, So this is stuff that.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Has been known for a long time, and I think
it's more obvious now that it's ever been. Did you
see the back and forth with Kamala's some of the
Kamala surrogates trying to say that Joe Rogan, you know,
didn't really like he didn't actually want to have her
on and if he had had her on, everyon would
have seen that she's great, And then everyone the no, yeah, exactly,
(22:56):
like you can't rewrite this history now. You should have
figured out a way to get on the show and
show everybody. And also they didn't want to do the
show because they were trying to hid Kamala, so they're
just trying to have it every which way.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
They also made it whatever is necessary happened to do
to call her Daddy podcast. So, I mean, the reports
are that they flew her in and built an entire set.
Remember that story that I think she confirmed. They didn't
do it in LA They did it somewhere else, but
they rebuilt the Kamala Harris did team did her entire
(23:30):
set to allow that to take place. You have access
to unlimited jet travel. Joe Rogan does his show in Austin, Texas,
is my understanding. Donald Trump flew in there and did
three hours with Joe Rogan, if I remember correctly, in
his studio as the guests do. Kamala Harris was given
(23:53):
the same opportunity and she didn't do it. And the
fact now that they're trying to complain and say that
somehow that's someone else's fault. You can do any media
outlet in America that you want to do. When you
run for president of the United States, every single media
company in America wants to interview you as frequently as
(24:13):
they possibly can, because you are running for the most
important office in the world and whatever you say is
particularly newsworthy. So why in the world would you not
take advantage to avail yourself there. I think what this
really gets down to buck is and you know, Mayor
Pete has taken his pronouns now out of his bio
(24:34):
as there are rumors that he may run for statewide
office in Michigan, either Senate or for or for the governorship.
I think Democrats don't understand men. They don't know how
to talk to men, they don't know what normal men
are like. And in their retrospective analysis of the campaign,
(24:58):
they are recognizing that they totally misfired in all respects.
I mean, I would just tell you this, Tim Walls
is not a dude that most dudes consider to be
a normal dude. Right, so they recognized, well, can I
just just what what what they add to this claim?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And the whole point was that he was supposed to
us dude that dudes would think was a normal dude.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's right. So they don't have the tools they can
recognize what the problem is, and the problem is, Okay,
we're not appealing to men. And they thought, oh, Tim
Walls is our answer to that. But remember we said
this on the show. Most normal guys are not suddenly
fooled when someone pretends to be something that they're not.
(25:44):
And so when he was walking around with a gun,
they put him in carhart, they put him in a
camo hat. Remember they were like, oh, we're going to
talk to the camo hat wearing men of America, and
really it actually I think backfired on them because it's
more insult to most people who live where I live
to pretend to be something that you're not then just
(26:08):
to be something different than them. And I think Democrats
are aware that they have a real problem with men,
young men in particular, but they don't realize that that
problem is actually their policies, not the way that they're perceived.
And so when you think that's just about how you're perceived,
you end up trotting out Tim Walls and remember Buck,
(26:31):
They had him playing Madden against AOC in a hotel
ballroom and a desperate attempt to try to appeal to
normal guys out there. And he's just fake, right, I mean,
they send him to football games, but the guy comes
out and he does high leg kicks and he does
the weird waving and he's just a weird dude. And
(26:53):
it's ironic because Tim Walls may well have been the
pick because he had a viral moment where he claimed
that Donald Trump and JD. Vance were weird. And I
think the best thing you can say about Trump and
Vance is they actually come across as fairly normal dudes,
and you can't fake that. I don't think I think
(27:16):
people see it. You know, we just had will on
and will Kine said, Hey, you want to be authentic,
but then you also want to be likable, and sometimes
the likable aspect of the authenticity doesn't come across. Like
Fetterman is authentic, but wearing you know, I'm wearing athletic
(27:36):
shorts and a hoodie to a wedding or to an
inauguration is authentic maybe to his fashion sense, but it
also strikes your normal person as just being too far right,
it's too weird. I think the Veke may have this
problem on some level. We'll see how he appeals running
for Ohio governor. He comes across and I think he
(27:57):
got dinged on this in a debate sometimes as the
smartest kid in the room who's always got his hand
up to answer a question, and that doesn't feel normal
over time. Right, It's a try hard element that I
think can.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Exhilt a lack of humility. You know, he should work
on his backhand on the tennis court a little more
before he posts videos. I'm just saying, like, you want
to always approach things a little more humble, which is,
even when you're out there on the stage, even when
you're telling people you want to fix the country, you
want ever to know that you know that you're not perfect,
and the presentation of the perfect is always something that
people will find suspicious.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I think that's all said, and I think that's one
of the big challenges that Democrats have going forward. They
don't really have a guy who's a normal guy. Remember
when they had Schumer try to look like he was
grilling Hamburgers, and the picture of Schumer grilling Hamburgers like
he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Again,
(28:56):
you don't have to pretend to do things that normal
guys do. Everybody's not into all the same stuff. Just
be you. They just don't have a normal dude. I mean, again,
I think a white dude for Harris by and large,
most white dudes for Harris actually kind of weird losers.
I'm sorry, that's just kind of the way that I feel.
(29:18):
They're socially awkward, maladroit, not normal guys. You know, the
culture has shifted so much that I think for a
lot of people now in it it's hard to like
quantify this, but it used to be that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I think that celebrities would walk around, you know, particularly
like actors, you know, kind of pop musicians, and if
they were going to get you know, if they're going
to mouth off about politics, they're always going to take
a very orthodox, hard left view on things and just
expect adulation. I think now they're a little more careful,
(29:57):
some of them are going to be a little more
careful about where they let that stuff fly. I don't
necessarily even mean with the press present. I just mean
in general in their lives. Like I think people no
longer the day, the sort of day facto or the
on its face reflexive view is no longer if I
say something left wing, everyone's going to clap for me.
(30:20):
I think that's totally Pronouns in the Bio is a
very good example of this.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I think that's totally true. I also think it's a
function of the rigged algorithm because those people were getting affirmation.
We know they're going to get it from the media,
right because overwhelmingly the media's left wing, but they were trending,
the comments were mostly positive. They had the algorithm rigged
(30:45):
to such an extent that normalcy and common sense was
devalued and you didn't actually see the normal position of
the average American. And then what happens is the algorithm
gets so pop popular buck a lot of people just
fake it. They'll do whatever they think is popular to
try to keep their job. And then suddenly it starts
(31:08):
to swing back the other direction. And frankly, we don't
get that many opportunities, even in a democratic republic, to
really render our verdict. I think we would have gotten
a big one in twenty but for COVID, Trump was
a signpost. But I come back to it again. Trump
added twelve million votes between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
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Sexton Show Buck. In addition to doing the most listened
to radio show in the country, can you tell the
full scope of this story right now? For people who
don't know Pete Hegset just responded to a video that
you had posted on on social media this morning, I believe, yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So an insider came to me, uh, someone someone that
I trust, and said, look, you've got to see what's
going on. They have completely let Walter Reed, which is
the premiere medical military facility in the country, deteriorate to
the point where they've now got burst pipes, that've got
whole wings that are shut down, there's flooding, there's all
(33:42):
kinds of damage. I mean, this is you know, in
Walter Reed Hospital in Bethesda. And so this person got
me the video and I posted it and it got
you know, got some people's attention because this is supposed
to be at at constant readiness as well. Walter Reed
is you know, if they have to get an influx
of troops that are attacked or injured, or you know,
if God forbid something happens in d C. To some
(34:04):
of our officials were just it's supposed to be at
constant readiness and they had to I think they had
to shut down like non emergency surgery, and it's been
a mess. And so I shared the video, which got
a lot of attention. Now the Washington Post has I mean,
I can't say broken, because I guess I kind of
broke it now. The Washington Post is writing it up
as well, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, who you
(34:27):
and I know well, responded to the video saying he's
looked into it. At Walter Reed, it is unacceptable as
a result of deferred maintenance under the last administration. My
staff is prioritizing fixing this, and under this president, our
troops will only receive the best care. And I responded,
thank you, Secretary Hegseth.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I know you're on it.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I know you're going to fix the mess that was,
you know, left behind, But you know they're just just
bringing it right to the people, just bringing it right
to the forefront. And Hegseth is on it, and we
need to get it for you. Good for Pete, Good
for the guy who sent you the video.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Walter Reed is supposed to be the best military hospital
in the entire United States, right, so the idea that
there would be any sort of disgusting maintenance flood related
issues that have been allowed to occur at that hospital
is frankly unacceptable. And so I'm glad you got the video.
(35:21):
I'm glad you shared it and glad that Pete Hegseth,
Secretary of Defense, has already responded and said he's on it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's amazing because I also, I mean, Pete's on it.
We know Pete, he's the Secretary of Defense. He is
going to fix this. Yeah, that's you know. As soon
as I'm looking at this and I go, oh, okay,
Pete knows about it. Problem about to be solved. I mean,
he's got It's going to take a few days, I'm sure,
but he's going to have this all squared away. What
a different world we are living in now from even
(35:49):
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's amazing. It's amazing, and I think all of us
have to continue to be incredibly thankful and vigilant. My
biggest concern, Buck is that Trump is going to do
so much in the first year or so that he's
going to look around and be like, Okay, like I've
kind of got everything back ship righted. But I think
(36:12):
you said something important, which is, remember a lot of
these executive orders, unless they're accompanied by congressional law or
court rulings, are right to be overturned. In the event
that Democrats win back control of the White House in
twenty twenty eight, so we have to keep adding on steam.
But as good as Trump is, he can only be
(36:35):
the start of something. He can't solve it forever, and
so I think that's important to keep in mind.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Just wait until the congressional fights on major legislation get
underway here. Don't worry. We're gonna hold feet to the fire.
We'll take care of a team. See you all on Monday.
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