October 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful blend of political insight, cultural commentary, and grassroots activism. Clay Travis opens the hour with guest Tudor Dixon, host on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network and a prominent conservative voice in Michigan. Together, they discuss Michigan’s pivotal role as the top battleground state in upcoming elections, emphasizing the importance of supporting Senate candidate Mike Rogers and other Republican contenders to prevent radical Democrats from gaining national influence.
Tudor shares her experiences traveling across Michigan, highlighting the growing conservative momentum among Gen Z students, especially at liberal campuses like Northern Michigan University. She recounts how young conservatives are standing up to leftist professors and embracing traditional American values, including faith, family, and patriotism. The conversation also touches on the cultural impact of the Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad campaign, which Tudor praises for promoting femininity and resonating with her daughters and other young women.
Clay and Tudor explore the broader cultural shift among young men and women toward faith-based education, Christian values, and balanced gender roles in relationships. They argue that this cultural realignment is key to reversing progressive narratives and restoring common sense in American society.
The hour also features commentary on the government shutdown, with Vice President JD Vance humorously addressing viral sombrero memes mocking House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries for prioritizing healthcare for illegal immigrants. Clay explains how Democrats are attempting to convert temporary COVID-era spending into permanent entitlements, framing any rollback as a deadly “cut.”
Clay plays a clip from White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who blames Democrats for the shutdown and urges support for President Trump’s efforts to reopen the government. He also shares a heartfelt talkback message from a listener in Utah who attended a Turning Point USA event, underscoring the emotional and patriotic energy surrounding Charlie Kirk’s legacy.
In a compelling segment, Clay critiques MSNBC’s hypocrisy for attacking Trump’s mental fitness while ignoring President Biden’s cognitive decline. He contrasts Trump’s transparency and stamina with Biden’s limited public appearances, calling out the media’s double standards. Clay plays a clip from his interview with Paul Finebaum, who shares his personal political evolution from liberal roots to conservative values. The discussion highlights how many Americans are waking up to the radical shift in the Democratic Party and reconsidering their political affiliations.
The hour ends with a call from a college professor defending conservative educators and urging parents to be proactive in the college selection process, followed by Clay’s reflection on the importance of culture in shaping politics, especially through sports and entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Final Hour
(00:04):
of the Day for Wednesday. We'll be back with you
tomorrow and Friday. Buck is in Taiwan. We'll be back
with you on Monday. We are joined now by our
friend Tudor Dixon from Michigan. I was with her about
ten days ago or so up at Mackinaw Island. One
of the most beautiful places in the entire United States.
(00:25):
Northern Michigan in general, especially in the summer and the
fall of not a cold weather guy, some of you
are is one of the most spectacular places in the nation.
I would never have heard about it if I hadn't
gotten married to my wife, Laura, who is a Michigander. Tudor,
you went to the University of Kentucky. I believe condolences
on the fact that they basically have no football program anymore.
(00:46):
But you have been in Michigan for some time now
as well. It's fun to hang out with you. For
people who don't know about northern Michigan, what would you
tell them?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean, you have some of it up very nicely.
It is beautiful. I think what people don't know about
Michigan in general is that we have these gorgeous beaches.
I've said to people, we have these amazing beaches, and
they're like, you're crazy, You're nowhere near the ocean. But
if you have never seen the Great Lakes before, Lake
Michigan is incredible. If you go up to Northern Michigan,
(01:16):
we have these. We have lakes up there. Torch Lake
is just incredible. It's like the Caribbean. It's bright green,
it's very clear. It's just unreal that this actually exists
in the northern part of the country. And the weather
in the summer is gorgeous. But this is the time
that we were Actually I was in Macanaw last weekend
(01:37):
with you. But this past weekend we went to the
Upper Peninsula and we went traveling through the Upper Peninsula,
met with the Turning Point group up at Northern Michigan University.
It is just gorgeous up there, gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
For people. I said this when we talked to the
group up there, and they were awesome and it was
fantastic to meet so many people at the event at
Mackinaw Island that we did. Michigan, I would argue, is
maybe the number one battleground now in America. And I
know a lot of people talk about Pennsylvania, but if
you look at the Senate races that are coming up,
(02:13):
if you look at the governor's race that is coming up,
and obviously, as we look ahead already to twenty twenty eight,
whoever wins Michigan is going to be the next president
of the United States in twenty twenty eight. How are
things looking for Republicans on the ground. What should all
of the people in Michigan listening to us right now
know and or do?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Tutor Well, I think the point that you're making is
very key. Michigan is absolutely the number one battleground state,
and that means that whether it is a Republican that
wins or a Democrat that wins, there is the potential
in any of these seats for them to one day
become more powerful in Washington, d C. We've had a
(02:53):
history of sending Democrats to Washington DC. You know, Jennifer
Granholm was the governor of Michigan, came the Energy secretary.
You know Pete buddhaj Edge is a Traverse City resident,
He was Transportation Secretary. You do not want to continue
to make these radical democrats famous in Washington, DC, or
(03:13):
Heaven forbid give them more power. And so that's why
I want people to think about these seats that are
open in Michigan right now, whether it is the governor's
race or the Senate race. We've got Mike Rogers running
in the Senate. That is a key seat. We have
to take that back. It's an open seat right now,
which is very important because that means we on the
(03:34):
Republican side, the President has come out and endorse Mike Rogers.
He is the candidate. On the Democrat side, they have
a three way primary. They are really going to struggle
with money and they're going to batter each other up
by the time they get to that general. So if
you can come out and support Mike Rogers, that is
critical right now. This is a seat that we can
(03:54):
win in the Senate that we didn't have before. Our
congressional seats are just as important. We're looking at the
tenth district to see who's going to step in there.
But we've got Tom Barrett, who is an amazing guy.
He's going to be fighting. He's a freshman this term.
He's going to be fighting to keep his seat. And
I want to say he's really really focused on the
(04:14):
American people. When he had constituents that were stuck in
a prison in Mexico, he flew there and got them out.
When I needed help with a friend who had adopted
a special needs child out of Africa and couldn't get
her home, he immediately stepped in and helped. Those are
the kinds of people that you want to have going
to Washington. In Michigan, we have great Republicans. Our Democrats
(04:37):
are insane.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You have not let this happen.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
If you were from outside of the state. Please, we
don't have a lot of resources here financially. Please help
out the people of Michigan because they're so critical.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We're talking to Tutor Dixon. She's part of the Clay
and Buck podcast network. You can hear her show every
single day and out there every single week. For sure.
What do you see in terms of culture impact? I
was talking, I know you've got I think it's four
daughters if I'm not mistaken. I was talking earlier about
(05:12):
the American Eagle Sydney Sweeney jeans campaign. There's a big
article in the Wall Street Journal about the fact that
they added a million customers and that the jeans all
got sold out. I think you've got a couple of
teenage girls, if I'm not mistaken. What do you think
of the culture that surrounds them on a day to
day basis? And do you feel like we are punching
(05:32):
back and winning as a mom or how do you
see things playing out where you are in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I totally feel like we're punching back and winning. We've
been huge fans of American Eagle for a long time,
and I'll tell you it is mostly because they carry
short jeans and we're very short people. So that has
been That was great when the girls were like, oh
my gosh, this is the popular brand and we already buy,
(05:59):
you know. But also just to recognize that it's okay
to be feminine, It's okay to be to look at
someone and say that's the kind of that's the kind
of person I want to be. You know, I want
to look good. I want to It's okay to want
to look good, and teenagers want to want to look good.
So that's that's okay to continue to promote that. But
(06:21):
also I think that we are punching back when it
comes to family values, and that's something that obviously In
the past few weeks, we've seen so many people come
out and honor the work that Charlie Kirk did. But
really what I see them out of everything that he
talked about, what I see them really like blobbing onto
(06:42):
is that idea that you can get married, you can
have a family, you can have those traditional family values,
and that's a good thing. That's really what what drives
the country, what builds the country. And going to talk
to the turning point kids was really powerful because the
change that we've seen from the millennial generation to this
(07:06):
next generation, when you go from millennials to gen Z.
Gen Z is very conservative. And this chapter in Northern Michigan.
North Michigan is a pretty it's in Marquette, it's a
pretty liberal university. And they said they just ended up
with a new whole new chapter, come in two hundred
(07:27):
and twenty members, and they're up against it. They said
they put out a table on their campus and they
had people coming by and screaming, your fascists, your fascists.
In the meantime, other people are just standing in line
signing up. So people are not so timid anymore. I
think that's what we're seeing in this newest generation is
(07:48):
that they want to say, you know what, I want
to meet someone young. I want to have a legacy,
and that's in children. I want to have kids. I
want to honor that those additional American values. But the
interesting part is that the professors haven't let this go yet.
So this kid that started this chapter up in northern Michigan,
(08:11):
he put out his table and one of the professors
came and poured coffee on him. That's what we're fighting,
and this generation is standing up against it. So if
you can punch back against your professors and their radical ideology,
I think we're winning them over. We're winning the next
generation over.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mentioned that you had girls. I've got boys, boys
in particular, and I see this through the young boys
young men that I have in my own family that
we're raising, are kind of over what I would call
the BS. My wife Laura has said, and I wrote
about this some in the new book that I've got
coming out, that she thinks a lot of young women
(08:52):
are going to follow the young boys because they're going
to get exposed to the ideas that they have, and candidly,
they're going to date your point. Some of them are
going to grow up and get married together. How much
of that do you buy into because you've got the
young girls, do you feel like that's happening in their
culture in many ways as it has already happened. We've
(09:12):
seen it happen with young boys.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think so because we were in a slightly different situation.
Our girls are in Christian school. But I think the
reason I think that is because the Christian schools are
just exploding. There's just so much growth in our Christian schools.
They're having to expand. I'm actually looking at my kids'
school right now, if they can, they take over the
(09:36):
entire field to build a new building, because there's so
many parents who have chosen that Christian lifestyle over the
public schools. But even the public schools, a lot of
the kids in our area are going into church. The
young men are going to church like they haven't before,
and they're attending youth group. And I do think that
(09:56):
there is this permission again for girls to say, Okay,
I want to have a career, I want to get married,
but there's going to be times when I want a
boy to open the door for me and to love
me and to respect me and that's not weakness on
his end, and that's not weakness on my end. And
that's something that is going to really be hard to
(10:18):
pull back from what my generation did and what my
mom's generation did, where women were told, don't let men
honor you, or love you, or hold you up on
a pedestal, because you should be equal. Well, you know,
sometimes you want your husband to say I've got you,
I'm going to take care of you. And there are
(10:39):
days when your husband's also going to need you to
take care of him. You know, you need a partner.
It's okay to say you have a partner who adores
you. You should be adored.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Amen, And I appreciate you, tutor, and we adore your
podcast being a part of the Clay and Buck popodcast network.
And for people out there who don't know how to
find it, give him a shout out. Let him know
what you talk about on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, check it out. It's I mean, you can sign
it on iHeartRadio, app, Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
We're on Rumble, We're on YouTube. This Friday, we'll have
a new episode with Congressman Tim Burchett. He's awesome he's
talking about what's going on in Washington, d C. But
we also go through Memphis and the importance of making
sure we got these these National Guard members out there
(11:29):
helping to take care of some of this crime. Crime
is such an issue in the United States, and he
is he is no nonsense and he's funny. So you
should tune.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
In outstanding stuff Tutor Dixon. Go follow her on social media,
check out the podcast network and Tudor is great to
see you up in Michigan. Hope to have you on
again soon.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Thanks for coming. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
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(12:10):
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Speaker 1 (12:58):
We're rolling through the Wednesday edition and of the program.
Let's go to cut thirty, which is jade Van's being
asked about the really hysterical sombrero memes of Hakeem Jeffries,
the House Minority leader for the Democrat Party. Listening to
(13:19):
his response, the.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
President's been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Sandra
Schumer ultately. You've said that you're interested in good faith
negotiations with these leaders, but you know what message does
that send? Is it helpful just post pictures of leader
Jeffries and sombrero if you're trying to have good faith
talks with.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Him, Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking and
we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good
faith while also poking a little bit of fun at
some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions, and even
you know, poking some fun at the absurdity of the
Democrats themselves. I mean, I'll tell Hakeem Jeffries right now,
I make this solemn promise to you that if you
help us reopen the government, the sombrero memes will stop.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Sorry again, I understand a lot of you may not
have seen them, but they have gone massively viral on
social media. And the concept is that Hakeem Jeffries is
actually a Mexican and that is why he is fighting
so hard for illegal immigrants to have healthcare. That might
(14:21):
sound weird and it may not translate on the radio,
but trust me, these are very funny memes where they
have put Hakeem Jeffries into a sombrero and are regularly
mocking the position. Now, all of this money is not
going to illegal immigrants, but some of this money is
(14:44):
and The big picture point is this was supposed to
be a short term funding bill that was designed to
help during the time of COVID. Since then, it has
as Democrat plans always are in this situation, they now
basically are arguing that this is an entitlement that the
(15:07):
government is obligated to fund forever, and that this additional
four hundred and fifty billion dollar subsidy, which again was
only passed during COVID as a supplement designed to help
during that particular time when the budget got blown up,
(15:28):
when the spending rows out of control. Credit to Senator
Ron Johnson of Wisconsin who laid out, hey, we would
have a super balanced budget if we just returned to
the size of government we had before COVID. But the
Democrat gamble is once they can get it funded, once
(15:49):
it's in the budget, they will be able to label
it as a cut any time we try to restrict
that spending. That's their game plan. Get it funded once,
and then if you ever take it back, it's a
cut that is going to lead to everybody dying in America.
That's basically what they argue. That is their argument every time.
(16:12):
They are playing on the fact that if they get
it passed once, then it becomes an entitlement expense, and
if it ever gets restrained in any way, they are
able to label it as a cut. And that's why
they didn't fund it for years into the future, because
they knew how expensive it was. They said, oh, well,
we do this for a few years, and then as
(16:33):
soon as you go back in time, you say, okay,
well that few years is up. The crisis of COVID
has passed. The excuse the emergency spending bills, there's no
way to rationalize or justify them anymore. As soon as
that situation gets here, what do they revert to, Oh,
this is a cut. A lot of people are going
to die. The Republicans don't care whether you live or die.
(16:53):
That's their argument. Their argument very often comes back to
people will die if this has changed. And that is
the world in which we are living right now. So
give me an update, guys on the calls, if you would.
I know, we had a bunch of people who were waiting.
In the meantime, I'm going to hop in here and
(17:15):
hit some of the talkbacks. We had a bunch of them.
This is Lisa from Logan, utah FF.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's Lisa from Logan use.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
How we were at the Turning Point celebration for Charlie
Kirk last night, over sixty five hundred people. It was loud,
it was electric, It was so awesome. I can't believe
how great it was to be there and support Charlie.
I just want to let you know, my eighty seven
year old mother, who had a stroken year ago, was
there and she cried the whole time because she loves America,
(17:44):
she loves Trump, she loves JD.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Thank you, well, that's awesome. I do think one of
the big outcomes of Charlie Kirk's assassination, there are many
of them, but I think a lot of older people
are learning what Charlie was saying, and they are finding
out that they were huge Charlie Kirk fans. They just
had no idea that he actually existed because he's focused
so much of his message on young people. But I
(18:07):
am hearing increasingly numbers of people who said, I went
and watched the video, I really like this guy didn't
even though he existed, And certainly we've seen that on
social media, where Charlie Kirk's following has exploded. There's a
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Speaker 7 (19:01):
This.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I got a couple of clips that are fun for you.
First of all, I thought, and I'm gonna be just
have to out myself here. I thought that after covering
for Joe Biden and his clear cognitive decline for years,
that on MSNBC they would have to say, you know what,
(19:24):
We're not going to try to rerun Trump one point
zero when we argued all the time for the twenty
fifth Amendment, and then Joe Biden was cognitively and mentally
and physically incapable of being president and instead so so
we ignored all that. So we can't go back to
the same Trump's not able to be president. I was
(19:46):
wrong Rachel Mattout, Lawrence O'Donnell bashed Trump over his issues,
and they say Trump is not intellectually capable basically of
being president. He's got cognitive decline. This is what they
really are selling their audience. After not saying anything about
Biden four years cut twenty four.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
We are watching publicly a very dramatic mental decline in
Donald Trump. This is a sharp cliff that he's just
fallen off within the last fortnight, especially over this particular
weekend of social media posting. And it's not just like
transgressive or offensive or bad.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
It's also just weird.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's really weird stuff, like there's something weird going on
up there.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Yeah, it's inexplicable, and it is absolutely worthy of a
family intervention. There's no other family in America that would
let a seventy nine year old do things like this publicly.
They would absolutely intervene. It would be the only thing
every family member wanted to do. They would do it urgently.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You got to share that clip from m clay and
buck account team. If you're watching on video, you could
see my jaw drop. Trump does all day long, basically
rolling press conferences well where he will answer any question
under the sun. Biden couldn't even be out after dark
(21:12):
because his cognitive decline was so real. They never talked
about it on MSNBC. Now they're suddenly saying, oh, Trump,
his behavior is unacceptable in public. No one would ever
led a seventy nine year old behave in this way.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Biden was eighty one, all right, I think I'm correct,
and they let him do all sorts of things, clearly
demonstrating that his brain didn't work.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
An MSNBC didn't say anything. And now Trump, who has
basically a rolling press conference all day long every day,
Oh wow, look what's going on here. Let me play
a couple of cuts for you as well. This interview
that I did with Paul Feinbaum has gone everywhere, and
(21:57):
some people say I've talked about how to me. The
goal of talking about current events politics should be persuading
people that you're right, because I believe that there are
a lot of people out there who will change their
opinions on things, if you make the argument in a
way that they can understand it. And there are lots
(22:19):
of different ways to make those arguments. But basically, politics
is the art of communication and decision making, and a
huge part of any political decision is the decision what
are you going to do? But you also have to
explain why you're doing it and why it matters. And
Paul Feinbaum talked with me about the fact that he
(22:41):
was raised in New York City by a family from
New York City Jewish family. They moved to Memphis, they
were died in the warl Liberals, and what happened in
nineteen ninety four when he called his mom for the
first time and said, I voted Republican. Mom, listen to this.
What do you think the reaction to this process will
be like for you?
Speaker 10 (23:03):
Clay? There might be some surprise, because I don't think
anybody knows what I am.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Clay.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
I grew up the son of too liberal New York Jews.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, who came down south?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (23:15):
My sister was born in New York in long before
my mother died. In nineteen ninety four. I called her
on election day and she said, well, who did you
vote for? And I said, I voted for This was
an off year election.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, the ninety four was the Republican red wave.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I told her I'd voted for the Republican And my mother,
who I loved earlier, one of the most important people,
maybe the most important person in my life because my
dad died at fifteen. She hung up the phone. I
have one of my best friends I grew up with.
I told a number of years ago I was going
to be on Fox News. It was a story in Birmingham.
(23:57):
You may remember Natalie Hollway. Oh yeah, I called them
and I said, I'm going to be on Greta's show
tonight on Fox. He said, I refuse to watch it. So,
I mean, I grew up around a lot of this.
My mother hanging up on me still stings, and she
might hang.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Up if she if she knew you were going to
run for the Senate in Alabama.
Speaker 10 (24:14):
But that's okay. I mean you you come from I
mean Donald Trump was a Democrat too.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I was a Democrat.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
I'm not running away from that. Yeah, I understand when
you're when you're a journalist, there's a perception, but there's
also such a thing as growing up uh and UH
maturing and moving past the ideals that you were taught
as a as a young person and believed in as
a teenager, and that I've evolved. My wife is a Republican,
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her family are Republicans, and so am I. But it's
not something I talk about, and a lot of my
friends wouldn't probably even know that because I have until
this moment, I've never discussed it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So people change their minds. How do people change their minds?
You convince them that the things that they used to
believe are no longer true. There are tons of you
out there right now with friends and family that still
think this is Bill Clinton's Democrat Party. They still think
(25:20):
this is Jimmy Carter's Democrat Party. They don't pay attention
to what Democrats actually say. They picked the team and
they turned their brain off, and they've continued to hit
that button because they haven't really paid attention to the
fact that the Democrat Party of the seventies and the
eighties and the nineties and even the early two thousands,
(25:43):
all of the people that believed what those guys believe
would be Republicans. Now you'll go back and look Bill
Clinton ninety two, Bill Clinton ninety six. Heck, look at
the clips of Chuck Schumer back then, look at the
clips of Joe Bidt. I didn't back then. They're saying
everything Donald Trump is saying now. A lot of us,
(26:06):
and I would put myself in this camp, haven't moved
very much on issues. It's just the Democrat Party's gone
insane and we weren't willing to hop on the train
to crazy town. And so I believe there are tens
of millions of people, a lot of them. You guys
are listening to me right now that in nineteen nineties
may not have listened to Russian inball in the early
(26:28):
two thousands, may not have listened to Russian Limbaugh. But
over time and COVID was for many people. I think
that push point where it radicalized a lot of us,
and where it demonstrated how lost the Democrat Party has
become in many ways. I mean, I've made this argument
for a long time. I think it's the best argument
you can make, other than the fact that clearly it's
(26:51):
not true. But when somebody says Trump's a fascist, Trump
wants to be a dictator, we all know that's a
laughable argument. But you can actually push back with this
simple question that they won't have an answer to. If
that were actually true, why didn't Trump take over everything
during the early days of COVID in twenty twenty, Trump
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could have said, under my national authority, I'm mandating all
the What did Trump do?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Then?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
A lot of you are upset with the choices Trump
made in the early days of COVID, But most of
it was just deferring to local state politicians. He let
every state and every mayor make their own determinations about
what the best decisions were for their communities. Democrats were
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begging to be regulated, then, they were begging to be
dictated to. They were demanding that a guy on a
paddle board on the ocean be arrested. They were demanding
that kids on hiking trails be handcuffed. They were begging
for federal authority, for big government to come in and
(28:04):
weigh down its heavy hand. Never, in most of our lives,
with the possible exception of the immediate aftermath of nine
to eleven, has a president had a time when he
could have taken more power and more authority than right
in the immediate aftermath of COVID, in the spring and
summer of twenty twenty. What did Trump do when he
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had that opportunity to take almost complete and total power
in the United States? He deferred to state and local authorities.
In fact, to such an extent that I think you
can criticize him not for being a dictator, but for
being too committed to the principles of federalism such that
he did not take over all of the power that
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was waiting to be grabbed.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
There.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You know who did Joe Biden. So anybody out there
who says, oh, Trump's going to be a dictator, just
ask well, why didn't he dictate when for basically the
time in American history when a president could have taken
more power than almost ever before in the history of
this republic, Trump actually deferred and said, let's let local
governments and local leaders make decisions instead of federalizing. His
(29:11):
leadership stuff one to respond to. We got to cut
government shutdowns going on. This is what happens. This is
what you hear. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt has recorded a message.
They can't answer the phones, Federal workers can't do their
jobs because of the Chuck Schumer shutdown. This is what
it sounds like if you call the White House, thank.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
You for calling the White House Commentary. Hello America, this
is White House Press Secretary Caroline love It. Democrats and
Congress have shut down the federal government because they care
more about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they
care about serving you, the American people. Until Democrats vote
for the Clean Republican fact Continuing Resolution to reopen the government,
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the White House is unable to answer your call or
respond to your questions. We look forward to hearing from
you again very soon, and in the meantime, please know
President Trump will never stop fighting for you. Thank you,
and God bless you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's Caroline Levitt. That's what you get when you call
the White House comment line. Bit can you imagine some
of the comments that line gets, probably even crazier than
some of the comments we get. We come back, we'll
have some fun. We'll close up shop on the Wednesday
edition of the program. But I want to tell you
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What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and two,
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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Talk Aback Again Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,
Let's see We've got doctor Mark, associate dean at a
college in Mississippi. What you got for us, doctor Mark?
Speaker 12 (32:12):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. Let's appreciate it. I
just want people to know that not all professors are
that bad, right. It's important that that we know that.
I find myself in social situations having introduced myself, But
what do you do. I'm a professor and.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I see it.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
Look, I have to tell them, well, I'm not one
of those kind of professors. So I think a lot
of us are getting a bad rap. But more importantly,
I think that it's it's really important for parents to
get involved in the college selection process. I love it
when parents come to campus. I love it when they
ask questions. I just don't want parents to think that
(32:45):
you're going to send them to my old alma mater.
I'm sure the buildings are all the same, but the
people inside are all different. So ask questions when you
go on these trips, ask what's the leadership, Like, what
will my kid learn? I know, I know that I
I really understand that parents have put, you know, seventeen
eighteen years worth of hard work in raising their kid
(33:06):
and when they come to my college, you know, they're
not going to get full of left wing ideologies. They're
they're just gonna They're gonna get a great education. They're
going to learn how to think, not what to think.
So I just wanted to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Thank you for the call. Look, I'm in the process
of going through My oldest is a senior in high school,
so we're going through the act the SEC, the college
a SAT. He may end up at an SEC school,
but we're going through the process of the college application visits.
(33:38):
I don't want to name the school because I worry
for what I do about causing my kids challenge when
it comes to the applications that they are putting in candidly,
because I don't know who's reading applications. They may have
no idea who I am. They may see my name
and be like I hate that guy. They may like me.
I don't. I'm not optimistic that it's always going to
(33:59):
be in my favor of my kids, so I try
not to say where they're applying, so I'm not going
to say the school. First thing that happened this is
an elite institution. Was touring with my oldest son, who's
a senior. Before they began the tour, we had a
land acknowledgment elite institution, one of the top in the country,
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and I looked around. I thought I was being pranked.
I thought to myself, there's no way this is possibly real.
Before they said anything about the school, before they talked
about anything having to do with the university at all,
they said, before we begin this tour, let's have a
land acknowledgement. I thought I was being pranked. My son
(34:46):
he looked at me like, hey, Dad, can you believe
this is going on. He's not going to be applying
to that school. His choice, not mine. He was just like,
if they start a a campus tour with the land acknowledgement,
that's not the kind of culture that I want to
be in for the next four years. I have to imagine,
(35:09):
and he's a young man, that there are a lot
of young men and women out there having that same
kind of reaction. I can't believe that would be a
positive thing. Let's see ee is that? Who's up next
on the talk back line? Which got forth?
Speaker 13 (35:22):
Guys, maybe sometime you could explain to us why sports
is so important. You keep talking about sports, sports, sports,
What does that have to do with anything? And why
should we care about sports? I don't understand that part.
Why don't you talk about military as much as you
talk about the sports that's more important?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Military is real. Yeah, it's weird. This is the kind
of guy who doesn't ever understand why he gets his
ass kicked in elections. Honestly, this is a lot of
you out there are having to understand that politics is
downstream from culture. The military is way more important. Do
(36:07):
you know how you end up with Pete Hegseth as
the Secretary of War and Donald Trump as the President
of the United States. You don't win it by winning
arguments necessarily about tax policy. You change the culture. Culture
dictates who wins elections. Trump is a perfect example of this.
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The guy was a reality television star who people got
comfortable with. Look at Ronald Reagan was a movie star.
Culture wins elections. Culture culture culture. You can't win elections
without winning sports without winning in larger cultural battles. So yes,
I love the military, but you know how to make
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the military even more badass. Elect people like Donald Trump
who put people like Pete Hegseth in control. Plve you guys,
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Final Hour
(00:04):
of the Day for Wednesday. We'll be back with you
tomorrow and Friday. Buck is in Taiwan. We'll be back
with you on Monday. We are joined now by our
friend Tudor Dixon from Michigan. I was with her about
ten days ago or so up at Mackinaw Island. One
of the most beautiful places in the entire United States.
(00:25):
Northern Michigan in general, especially in the summer and the
fall of not a cold weather guy, some of you
are is one of the most spectacular places in the nation.
I would never have heard about it if I hadn't
gotten married to my wife, Laura, who is a Michigander. Tudor,
you went to the University of Kentucky. I believe condolences
on the fact that they basically have no football program anymore.
(00:46):
But you have been in Michigan for some time now
as well. It's fun to hang out with you. For
people who don't know about northern Michigan, what would you
tell them?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean, you have some of it up very nicely.
It is beautiful. I think what people don't know about
Michigan in general is that we have these gorgeous beaches.
I've said to people, we have these amazing beaches, and
they're like, you're crazy, You're nowhere near the ocean. But
if you have never seen the Great Lakes before, Lake
Michigan is incredible. If you go up to Northern Michigan,
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we have these. We have lakes up there. Torch Lake
is just incredible. It's like the Caribbean. It's bright green,
it's very clear. It's just unreal that this actually exists
in the northern part of the country. And the weather
in the summer is gorgeous. But this is the time
that we were Actually I was in Macanaw last weekend
(01:37):
with you. But this past weekend we went to the
Upper Peninsula and we went traveling through the Upper Peninsula,
met with the Turning Point group up at Northern Michigan University.
It is just gorgeous up there, gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
For people. I said this when we talked to the
group up there, and they were awesome and it was
fantastic to meet so many people at the event at
Mackinaw Island that we did. Michigan, I would argue, is
maybe the number one battleground now in America. And I
know a lot of people talk about Pennsylvania, but if
you look at the Senate races that are coming up,
(02:13):
if you look at the governor's race that is coming up,
and obviously, as we look ahead already to twenty twenty eight,
whoever wins Michigan is going to be the next president
of the United States in twenty twenty eight. How are
things looking for Republicans on the ground. What should all
of the people in Michigan listening to us right now
know and or do?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Tutor Well, I think the point that you're making is
very key. Michigan is absolutely the number one battleground state,
and that means that whether it is a Republican that
wins or a Democrat that wins, there is the potential
in any of these seats for them to one day
become more powerful in Washington, d C. We've had a
(02:53):
history of sending Democrats to Washington DC. You know, Jennifer
Granholm was the governor of Michigan, came the Energy secretary.
You know Pete buddhaj Edge is a Traverse City resident,
He was Transportation Secretary. You do not want to continue
to make these radical democrats famous in Washington, DC, or
(03:13):
Heaven forbid give them more power. And so that's why
I want people to think about these seats that are
open in Michigan right now, whether it is the governor's
race or the Senate race. We've got Mike Rogers running
in the Senate. That is a key seat. We have
to take that back. It's an open seat right now,
which is very important because that means we on the
(03:34):
Republican side, the President has come out and endorse Mike Rogers.
He is the candidate. On the Democrat side, they have
a three way primary. They are really going to struggle
with money and they're going to batter each other up
by the time they get to that general. So if
you can come out and support Mike Rogers, that is
critical right now. This is a seat that we can
(03:54):
win in the Senate that we didn't have before. Our
congressional seats are just as important. We're looking at the
tenth district to see who's going to step in there.
But we've got Tom Barrett, who is an amazing guy.
He's going to be fighting. He's a freshman this term.
He's going to be fighting to keep his seat. And
I want to say he's really really focused on the
(04:14):
American people. When he had constituents that were stuck in
a prison in Mexico, he flew there and got them out.
When I needed help with a friend who had adopted
a special needs child out of Africa and couldn't get
her home, he immediately stepped in and helped. Those are
the kinds of people that you want to have going
to Washington. In Michigan, we have great Republicans. Our Democrats
(04:37):
are insane.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You have not let this happen.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
If you were from outside of the state. Please, we
don't have a lot of resources here financially. Please help
out the people of Michigan because they're so critical.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
We're talking to Tutor Dixon. She's part of the Clay
and Buck podcast network. You can hear her show every
single day and out there every single week. For sure.
What do you see in terms of culture impact? I
was talking, I know you've got I think it's four
daughters if I'm not mistaken. I was talking earlier about
(05:12):
the American Eagle Sydney Sweeney jeans campaign. There's a big
article in the Wall Street Journal about the fact that
they added a million customers and that the jeans all
got sold out. I think you've got a couple of
teenage girls, if I'm not mistaken. What do you think
of the culture that surrounds them on a day to
day basis? And do you feel like we are punching
(05:32):
back and winning as a mom or how do you
see things playing out where you are in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I totally feel like we're punching back and winning. We've
been huge fans of American Eagle for a long time,
and I'll tell you it is mostly because they carry
short jeans and we're very short people. So that has
been That was great when the girls were like, oh
my gosh, this is the popular brand and we already buy,
(05:59):
you know. But also just to recognize that it's okay
to be feminine, It's okay to be to look at
someone and say that's the kind of that's the kind
of person I want to be. You know, I want
to look good. I want to It's okay to want
to look good, and teenagers want to want to look good.
So that's that's okay to continue to promote that. But
(06:21):
also I think that we are punching back when it
comes to family values, and that's something that obviously In
the past few weeks, we've seen so many people come
out and honor the work that Charlie Kirk did. But
really what I see them out of everything that he
talked about, what I see them really like blobbing onto
(06:42):
is that idea that you can get married, you can
have a family, you can have those traditional family values,
and that's a good thing. That's really what what drives
the country, what builds the country. And going to talk
to the turning point kids was really powerful because the
change that we've seen from the millennial generation to this
(07:06):
next generation, when you go from millennials to gen Z.
Gen Z is very conservative. And this chapter in Northern Michigan.
North Michigan is a pretty it's in Marquette, it's a
pretty liberal university. And they said they just ended up
with a new whole new chapter, come in two hundred
(07:27):
and twenty members, and they're up against it. They said
they put out a table on their campus and they
had people coming by and screaming, your fascists, your fascists.
In the meantime, other people are just standing in line
signing up. So people are not so timid anymore. I
think that's what we're seeing in this newest generation is
(07:48):
that they want to say, you know what, I want
to meet someone young. I want to have a legacy,
and that's in children. I want to have kids. I
want to honor that those additional American values. But the
interesting part is that the professors haven't let this go yet.
So this kid that started this chapter up in northern Michigan,
(08:11):
he put out his table and one of the professors
came and poured coffee on him. That's what we're fighting,
and this generation is standing up against it. So if
you can punch back against your professors and their radical ideology,
I think we're winning them over. We're winning the next
generation over.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mentioned that you had girls. I've got boys, boys
in particular, and I see this through the young boys
young men that I have in my own family that
we're raising, are kind of over what I would call
the BS. My wife Laura has said, and I wrote
about this some in the new book that I've got
coming out, that she thinks a lot of young women
(08:52):
are going to follow the young boys because they're going
to get exposed to the ideas that they have, and candidly,
they're going to date your point. Some of them are
going to grow up and get married together. How much
of that do you buy into because you've got the
young girls, do you feel like that's happening in their
culture in many ways as it has already happened. We've
(09:12):
seen it happen with young boys.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think so because we were in a slightly different situation.
Our girls are in Christian school. But I think the
reason I think that is because the Christian schools are
just exploding. There's just so much growth in our Christian schools.
They're having to expand. I'm actually looking at my kids'
school right now, if they can, they take over the
(09:36):
entire field to build a new building, because there's so
many parents who have chosen that Christian lifestyle over the
public schools. But even the public schools, a lot of
the kids in our area are going into church. The
young men are going to church like they haven't before,
and they're attending youth group. And I do think that
(09:56):
there is this permission again for girls to say, Okay,
I want to have a career, I want to get married,
but there's going to be times when I want a
boy to open the door for me and to love
me and to respect me and that's not weakness on
his end, and that's not weakness on my end. And
that's something that is going to really be hard to
(10:18):
pull back from what my generation did and what my
mom's generation did, where women were told, don't let men
honor you, or love you, or hold you up on
a pedestal, because you should be equal. Well, you know,
sometimes you want your husband to say I've got you,
I'm going to take care of you. And there are
(10:39):
days when your husband's also going to need you to
take care of him. You know, you need a partner.
It's okay to say you have a partner who adores
you. You should be adored.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Amen, And I appreciate you, tutor, and we adore your
podcast being a part of the Clay and Buck popodcast network.
And for people out there who don't know how to
find it, give him a shout out. Let him know
what you talk about on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, check it out. It's I mean, you can sign
it on iHeartRadio, app, Apple podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
We're on Rumble, We're on YouTube. This Friday, we'll have
a new episode with Congressman Tim Burchett. He's awesome he's
talking about what's going on in Washington, d C. But
we also go through Memphis and the importance of making
sure we got these these National Guard members out there
(11:29):
helping to take care of some of this crime. Crime
is such an issue in the United States, and he
is he is no nonsense and he's funny. So you
should tune.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
In outstanding stuff Tutor Dixon. Go follow her on social media,
check out the podcast network and Tudor is great to
see you up in Michigan. Hope to have you on
again soon.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Thanks for coming. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I want to tell you about the International Fellowship of
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You know them as conservative radio hosts, now just get
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
We're rolling through the Wednesday edition and of the program.
Let's go to cut thirty, which is jade Van's being
asked about the really hysterical sombrero memes of Hakeem Jeffries,
the House Minority leader for the Democrat Party. Listening to
(13:19):
his response, the.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
President's been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and Sandra
Schumer ultately. You've said that you're interested in good faith
negotiations with these leaders, but you know what message does
that send? Is it helpful just post pictures of leader
Jeffries and sombrero if you're trying to have good faith
talks with.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Him, Oh, I think it's funny. The president's joking and
we're having a good time. You can negotiate in good
faith while also poking a little bit of fun at
some of the absurdities of the Democrats' positions, and even
you know, poking some fun at the absurdity of the
Democrats themselves. I mean, I'll tell Hakeem Jeffries right now,
I make this solemn promise to you that if you
help us reopen the government, the sombrero memes will stop.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Sorry again, I understand a lot of you may not
have seen them, but they have gone massively viral on
social media. And the concept is that Hakeem Jeffries is
actually a Mexican and that is why he is fighting
so hard for illegal immigrants to have healthcare. That might
(14:21):
sound weird and it may not translate on the radio,
but trust me, these are very funny memes where they
have put Hakeem Jeffries into a sombrero and are regularly
mocking the position. Now, all of this money is not
going to illegal immigrants, but some of this money is
(14:44):
and The big picture point is this was supposed to
be a short term funding bill that was designed to
help during the time of COVID. Since then, it has
as Democrat plans always are in this situation, they now
basically are arguing that this is an entitlement that the
(15:07):
government is obligated to fund forever, and that this additional
four hundred and fifty billion dollar subsidy, which again was
only passed during COVID as a supplement designed to help
during that particular time when the budget got blown up,
(15:28):
when the spending rows out of control. Credit to Senator
Ron Johnson of Wisconsin who laid out, hey, we would
have a super balanced budget if we just returned to
the size of government we had before COVID. But the
Democrat gamble is once they can get it funded, once
(15:49):
it's in the budget, they will be able to label
it as a cut any time we try to restrict
that spending. That's their game plan. Get it funded once,
and then if you ever take it back, it's a
cut that is going to lead to everybody dying in America.
That's basically what they argue. That is their argument every time.
(16:12):
They are playing on the fact that if they get
it passed once, then it becomes an entitlement expense, and
if it ever gets restrained in any way, they are
able to label it as a cut. And that's why
they didn't fund it for years into the future, because
they knew how expensive it was. They said, oh, well,
we do this for a few years, and then as
(16:33):
soon as you go back in time, you say, okay,
well that few years is up. The crisis of COVID
has passed. The excuse the emergency spending bills, there's no
way to rationalize or justify them anymore. As soon as
that situation gets here, what do they revert to, Oh,
this is a cut. A lot of people are going
to die. The Republicans don't care whether you live or die.
(16:53):
That's their argument. Their argument very often comes back to
people will die if this has changed. And that is
the world in which we are living right now. So
give me an update, guys on the calls, if you would.
I know, we had a bunch of people who were waiting.
In the meantime, I'm going to hop in here and
(17:15):
hit some of the talkbacks. We had a bunch of them.
This is Lisa from Logan, utah FF.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's Lisa from Logan use.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
How we were at the Turning Point celebration for Charlie
Kirk last night, over sixty five hundred people. It was loud,
it was electric, It was so awesome. I can't believe
how great it was to be there and support Charlie.
I just want to let you know, my eighty seven
year old mother, who had a stroken year ago, was
there and she cried the whole time because she loves America,
(17:44):
she loves Trump, she loves JD.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Thank you, well, that's awesome. I do think one of
the big outcomes of Charlie Kirk's assassination, there are many
of them, but I think a lot of older people
are learning what Charlie was saying, and they are finding
out that they were huge Charlie Kirk fans. They just
had no idea that he actually existed because he's focused
so much of his message on young people. But I
(18:07):
am hearing increasingly numbers of people who said, I went
and watched the video, I really like this guy didn't
even though he existed, And certainly we've seen that on
social media, where Charlie Kirk's following has exploded. There's a
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Speaker 7 (19:01):
This.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I got a couple of clips that are fun for you.
First of all, I thought, and I'm gonna be just
have to out myself here. I thought that after covering
for Joe Biden and his clear cognitive decline for years,
that on MSNBC they would have to say, you know what,
(19:24):
We're not going to try to rerun Trump one point
zero when we argued all the time for the twenty
fifth Amendment, and then Joe Biden was cognitively and mentally
and physically incapable of being president and instead so so
we ignored all that. So we can't go back to
the same Trump's not able to be president. I was
(19:46):
wrong Rachel Mattout, Lawrence O'Donnell bashed Trump over his issues,
and they say Trump is not intellectually capable basically of
being president. He's got cognitive decline. This is what they
really are selling their audience. After not saying anything about
Biden four years cut twenty four.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
We are watching publicly a very dramatic mental decline in
Donald Trump. This is a sharp cliff that he's just
fallen off within the last fortnight, especially over this particular
weekend of social media posting. And it's not just like
transgressive or offensive or bad.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
It's also just weird.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's really weird stuff, like there's something weird going on
up there.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
Yeah, it's inexplicable, and it is absolutely worthy of a
family intervention. There's no other family in America that would
let a seventy nine year old do things like this publicly.
They would absolutely intervene. It would be the only thing
every family member wanted to do. They would do it urgently.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
You got to share that clip from m clay and
buck account team. If you're watching on video, you could
see my jaw drop. Trump does all day long, basically
rolling press conferences well where he will answer any question
under the sun. Biden couldn't even be out after dark
(21:12):
because his cognitive decline was so real. They never talked
about it on MSNBC. Now they're suddenly saying, oh, Trump,
his behavior is unacceptable in public. No one would ever
led a seventy nine year old behave in this way.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Biden was eighty one, all right, I think I'm correct,
and they let him do all sorts of things, clearly
demonstrating that his brain didn't work.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
An MSNBC didn't say anything. And now Trump, who has
basically a rolling press conference all day long every day,
Oh wow, look what's going on here. Let me play
a couple of cuts for you as well. This interview
that I did with Paul Feinbaum has gone everywhere, and
(21:57):
some people say I've talked about how to me. The
goal of talking about current events politics should be persuading
people that you're right, because I believe that there are
a lot of people out there who will change their
opinions on things, if you make the argument in a
way that they can understand it. And there are lots
(22:19):
of different ways to make those arguments. But basically, politics
is the art of communication and decision making, and a
huge part of any political decision is the decision what
are you going to do? But you also have to
explain why you're doing it and why it matters. And
Paul Feinbaum talked with me about the fact that he
(22:41):
was raised in New York City by a family from
New York City Jewish family. They moved to Memphis, they
were died in the warl Liberals, and what happened in
nineteen ninety four when he called his mom for the
first time and said, I voted Republican. Mom, listen to this.
What do you think the reaction to this process will
be like for you?
Speaker 10 (23:03):
Clay? There might be some surprise, because I don't think
anybody knows what I am.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Clay.
Speaker 10 (23:07):
I grew up the son of too liberal New York Jews.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, who came down south?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (23:15):
My sister was born in New York in long before
my mother died. In nineteen ninety four. I called her
on election day and she said, well, who did you
vote for? And I said, I voted for This was
an off year election.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, the ninety four was the Republican red wave.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
I told her I'd voted for the Republican And my mother,
who I loved earlier, one of the most important people,
maybe the most important person in my life because my
dad died at fifteen. She hung up the phone. I
have one of my best friends I grew up with.
I told a number of years ago I was going
to be on Fox News. It was a story in Birmingham.
(23:57):
You may remember Natalie Hollway. Oh yeah, I called them
and I said, I'm going to be on Greta's show
tonight on Fox. He said, I refuse to watch it. So,
I mean, I grew up around a lot of this.
My mother hanging up on me still stings, and she
might hang.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Up if she if she knew you were going to
run for the Senate in Alabama.
Speaker 10 (24:14):
But that's okay. I mean you you come from I
mean Donald Trump was a Democrat too.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, I was a Democrat.
Speaker 10 (24:21):
I'm not running away from that. Yeah, I understand when
you're when you're a journalist, there's a perception, but there's
also such a thing as growing up uh and UH
maturing and moving past the ideals that you were taught
as a as a young person and believed in as
a teenager, and that I've evolved. My wife is a Republican,
(24:45):
her family are Republicans, and so am I. But it's
not something I talk about, and a lot of my
friends wouldn't probably even know that because I have until
this moment, I've never discussed it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So people change their minds. How do people change their minds?
You convince them that the things that they used to
believe are no longer true. There are tons of you
out there right now with friends and family that still
think this is Bill Clinton's Democrat Party. They still think
(25:20):
this is Jimmy Carter's Democrat Party. They don't pay attention
to what Democrats actually say. They picked the team and
they turned their brain off, and they've continued to hit
that button because they haven't really paid attention to the
fact that the Democrat Party of the seventies and the
eighties and the nineties and even the early two thousands,
(25:43):
all of the people that believed what those guys believe
would be Republicans. Now you'll go back and look Bill
Clinton ninety two, Bill Clinton ninety six. Heck, look at
the clips of Chuck Schumer back then, look at the
clips of Joe Bidt. I didn't back then. They're saying
everything Donald Trump is saying now. A lot of us,
(26:06):
and I would put myself in this camp, haven't moved
very much on issues. It's just the Democrat Party's gone
insane and we weren't willing to hop on the train
to crazy town. And so I believe there are tens
of millions of people, a lot of them. You guys
are listening to me right now that in nineteen nineties
may not have listened to Russian inball in the early
(26:28):
two thousands, may not have listened to Russian Limbaugh. But
over time and COVID was for many people. I think
that push point where it radicalized a lot of us,
and where it demonstrated how lost the Democrat Party has
become in many ways. I mean, I've made this argument
for a long time. I think it's the best argument
you can make, other than the fact that clearly it's
(26:51):
not true. But when somebody says Trump's a fascist, Trump
wants to be a dictator, we all know that's a
laughable argument. But you can actually push back with this
simple question that they won't have an answer to. If
that were actually true, why didn't Trump take over everything
during the early days of COVID in twenty twenty, Trump
(27:16):
could have said, under my national authority, I'm mandating all
the What did Trump do?
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Then?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
A lot of you are upset with the choices Trump
made in the early days of COVID, But most of
it was just deferring to local state politicians. He let
every state and every mayor make their own determinations about
what the best decisions were for their communities. Democrats were
(27:42):
begging to be regulated, then, they were begging to be
dictated to. They were demanding that a guy on a
paddle board on the ocean be arrested. They were demanding
that kids on hiking trails be handcuffed. They were begging
for federal authority, for big government to come in and
(28:04):
weigh down its heavy hand. Never, in most of our lives,
with the possible exception of the immediate aftermath of nine
to eleven, has a president had a time when he
could have taken more power and more authority than right
in the immediate aftermath of COVID, in the spring and
summer of twenty twenty. What did Trump do when he
(28:25):
had that opportunity to take almost complete and total power
in the United States? He deferred to state and local authorities.
In fact, to such an extent that I think you
can criticize him not for being a dictator, but for
being too committed to the principles of federalism such that
he did not take over all of the power that
(28:46):
was waiting to be grabbed.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
There.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
You know who did Joe Biden. So anybody out there
who says, oh, Trump's going to be a dictator, just
ask well, why didn't he dictate when for basically the
time in American history when a president could have taken
more power than almost ever before in the history of
this republic, Trump actually deferred and said, let's let local
governments and local leaders make decisions instead of federalizing. His
(29:11):
leadership stuff one to respond to. We got to cut
government shutdowns going on. This is what happens. This is
what you hear. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt has recorded a message.
They can't answer the phones, Federal workers can't do their
jobs because of the Chuck Schumer shutdown. This is what
it sounds like if you call the White House, thank.
Speaker 9 (29:30):
You for calling the White House Commentary. Hello America, this
is White House Press Secretary Caroline love It. Democrats and
Congress have shut down the federal government because they care
more about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they
care about serving you, the American people. Until Democrats vote
for the Clean Republican fact Continuing Resolution to reopen the government,
(29:54):
the White House is unable to answer your call or
respond to your questions. We look forward to hearing from
you again very soon, and in the meantime, please know
President Trump will never stop fighting for you. Thank you,
and God bless you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's Caroline Levitt. That's what you get when you call
the White House comment line. Bit can you imagine some
of the comments that line gets, probably even crazier than
some of the comments we get. We come back, we'll
have some fun. We'll close up shop on the Wednesday
edition of the program. But I want to tell you
last weekend in New York City, the Tunnel the Towers
Foundation had their annual Tunnel to Towers five k run
(30:30):
and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September.
What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and two,
as now one of the top five K runs in
the country, drawing forty thousand people. It retraces firefighter Steven
Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning his car. He
ran with sixty pounds of gear from the foot of
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the Battery tunnel to the Twin Towers. He never made
it out. The five K pays homage to the three
hundred and forty three FDNY firefighter, law enforcement officers, and
thousands of civilians who lost their lives on nine to eleven.
Proceeds from the event support the foundation's programs, including those
benefiting first responders and catastrophically injured service members. Producer Ali
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Let's see We've got doctor Mark, associate dean at a
college in Mississippi. What you got for us, doctor Mark?
Speaker 12 (32:12):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. Let's appreciate it. I
just want people to know that not all professors are
that bad, right. It's important that that we know that.
I find myself in social situations having introduced myself, But
what do you do. I'm a professor and.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I see it.
Speaker 12 (32:25):
Look, I have to tell them, well, I'm not one
of those kind of professors. So I think a lot
of us are getting a bad rap. But more importantly,
I think that it's it's really important for parents to
get involved in the college selection process. I love it
when parents come to campus. I love it when they
ask questions. I just don't want parents to think that
(32:45):
you're going to send them to my old alma mater.
I'm sure the buildings are all the same, but the
people inside are all different. So ask questions when you
go on these trips, ask what's the leadership, Like, what
will my kid learn? I know, I know that I
I really understand that parents have put, you know, seventeen
eighteen years worth of hard work in raising their kid
(33:06):
and when they come to my college, you know, they're
not going to get full of left wing ideologies. They're
they're just gonna They're gonna get a great education. They're
going to learn how to think, not what to think.
So I just wanted to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Thank you for the call. Look, I'm in the process
of going through My oldest is a senior in high school,
so we're going through the act the SEC, the college
a SAT. He may end up at an SEC school,
but we're going through the process of the college application visits.
(33:38):
I don't want to name the school because I worry
for what I do about causing my kids challenge when
it comes to the applications that they are putting in candidly,
because I don't know who's reading applications. They may have
no idea who I am. They may see my name
and be like I hate that guy. They may like me.
I don't. I'm not optimistic that it's always going to
(33:59):
be in my favor of my kids, so I try
not to say where they're applying, so I'm not going
to say the school. First thing that happened this is
an elite institution. Was touring with my oldest son, who's
a senior. Before they began the tour, we had a
land acknowledgment elite institution, one of the top in the country,
(34:23):
and I looked around. I thought I was being pranked.
I thought to myself, there's no way this is possibly real.
Before they said anything about the school, before they talked
about anything having to do with the university at all,
they said, before we begin this tour, let's have a
land acknowledgement. I thought I was being pranked. My son
(34:46):
he looked at me like, hey, Dad, can you believe
this is going on. He's not going to be applying
to that school. His choice, not mine. He was just like,
if they start a a campus tour with the land acknowledgement,
that's not the kind of culture that I want to
be in for the next four years. I have to imagine,
(35:09):
and he's a young man, that there are a lot
of young men and women out there having that same
kind of reaction. I can't believe that would be a
positive thing. Let's see ee is that? Who's up next
on the talk back line? Which got forth?
Speaker 13 (35:22):
Guys, maybe sometime you could explain to us why sports
is so important. You keep talking about sports, sports, sports,
What does that have to do with anything? And why
should we care about sports? I don't understand that part.
Why don't you talk about military as much as you
talk about the sports that's more important?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Military is real. Yeah, it's weird. This is the kind
of guy who doesn't ever understand why he gets his
ass kicked in elections. Honestly, this is a lot of
you out there are having to understand that politics is
downstream from culture. The military is way more important. Do
(36:07):
you know how you end up with Pete Hegseth as
the Secretary of War and Donald Trump as the President
of the United States. You don't win it by winning
arguments necessarily about tax policy. You change the culture. Culture
dictates who wins elections. Trump is a perfect example of this.
(36:28):
The guy was a reality television star who people got
comfortable with. Look at Ronald Reagan was a movie star.
Culture wins elections. Culture culture culture. You can't win elections
without winning sports without winning in larger cultural battles. So yes,
I love the military, but you know how to make
(36:48):
the military even more badass. Elect people like Donald Trump
who put people like Pete Hegseth in control. Plve you guys,
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