June 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and timely discussion centered on major legal, political, and cultural developments shaping America today. Clay Travis, hosting solo while Buck Sexton attends the Cannes Advertising Festival, opens the hour with a deep dive into a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling that upheld Tennessee’s law restricting gender transition surgeries for minors. Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti joins the program to break down the 6-3 decision, emphasizing the legal, medical, and cultural implications of the ruling. Skrmetti highlights the flawed science behind pediatric gender treatments, the growing international skepticism of such procedures, and the potential for future civil lawsuits from detransitioners. The conversation also explores the broader national impact of the ruling, including how states may handle cross-border medical procedures and the legal complexities surrounding parental rights and medical consent. Skrmetti underscores the importance of evidence-based policymaking over ideological influence, and the need for compassion and clarity in addressing gender dysphoria in youth. Later in the hour, Clay welcomes U.S. Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana to discuss the progress of the “Big Beautiful Bill,” a legislative package aimed at reforming student loans, increasing access to technical education, and reducing federal spending. Cassidy shares insights on bipartisan negotiations, the importance of long-term fiscal responsibility, and his optimism for passing meaningful reforms. The senator also weighs in on President Donald Trump’s handling of Iran, Israel, and national security, praising the administration’s firm stance on preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. In a lighter segment, Clay engages with listener feedback on language used during the show, sparking a humorous exchange about politically correct terminology and free speech. He also shares a viral clip from comedian Whitney Cummings, who humorously reflects on how motherhood shifted her political views, resonating with many listeners navigating similar life changes. The hour wraps with a call from a longtime member of the gay community, who offers a personal perspective on the transgender debate, emphasizing the rarity of true gender dysphoria and expressing concern over the current cultural climate surrounding children and gender identity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Buck is on.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
In the Mediterranean on the French Riviera, living it up
with advertisers at the can Advertising Festival.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Everybody's over there.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He's bringing in a lot more revenue for us here
on the program as suddenly everybody wants to buy ads here.
We thank you for supporting the show our five hundred
and fifty five affiliate stations in all fifty states, plus
all of you listening on podcast out there. We head
now down to Nashville, my hometown, where the Attorney General
(00:39):
of the State of Tennessee, my home state, has won
a huge Supreme Court victory this morning by a six
to three margin. The Supreme Court affirmed the State of
Tennessee's right to restrict so called gender surgery treatments, however
you want to classify it for minors living in the
(01:00):
state of Tennessee. And the man who helped to argue
that case and construct the defense of the law passed
by the Tennessee State legislature is the Attorney General of Tennessee,
Jonathan Scrimetti. He joins us now, first of all, congrats,
and what's it like? How do you become aware that
you have won a big case like this, Where were you?
(01:22):
Does your phone blow up? I mean, that's got to
be a pretty amazing feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What was that like, Well, it's I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's crazy. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I did not expect it to come out today. I
thought we'd have another week or so to wait, and
then all of a sudden, my Solicitor General Matt Rice,
who argued the case in the Supreme Court, said it's out,
and then we immediately scrambled to read it and see
what happened. And I still haven't been through all of
the opinions, working my way through, but yeah, my phone
absolutely blew up. We've been doing a bunch of media stuff.
(01:53):
Senator Blackburn and I did a press conference on AI
a few minutes ago too, so there was a little
break from the Supreme Court stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But it's been a busy day.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I mean, you know, people care a lot about this issue.
We have fought so hard on it, We've taken so
much fire for it.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It is really vindicating to come out with the win.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right, I think you're one of the best attorney
general smartest. I'm not just saying this because you happen
to be in my state. I think if you look
at the data, you have been on the right side
of a lot of these issues. Having said that, would
you have ever believed that you would need to argue
that you can't do these surgeries on minor children when
in the context of body alteration, it's been common since
(02:34):
for generations that, for instance, a fifteen year old couldn't
get a full back tattoo virtually anywhere, that no parent
would be allowed to do that. It's kind of staggering
that we got here, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It is incredible how fast everything is moved. But that
comes on the back of decades and decades of academic
work by people who are you really focused on the
idel And what we saw when we put this case together,
what we saw, because Alabama had been litigating it and
their Attorney General, Steve Marshall, had been fighting really hard,
(03:09):
is that all the science underlying giving these treatments to
kids was fraudulent, that it had been doctored in ways
that were particularly designed to affect the.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Outcomes in court.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And so it's just built on a house of sand.
And you see even these countries in Europe, you know
the UK and Sweden and Norway and all these countries
which are by no means conservative, But as they look
at the evidence coming in, they've.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Said, we can't do this to our kids.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
There's huge risk, there's.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Little if any benefit.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So, you know, it's wild that we have seen such
big changes. I think what we're seeing now is a
course correction and people realizing that as real as these
feelings are for kids, as hard as it is to
deal with gender dysphoria, the evidence just does not support
these treatments for them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, So six three Supreme Court says this of Tennessee
can do this. This means that other states out there
are also able to put in place similar laws as
the one Tennessee has. But it also means that I
would imagine other states are not required to follow this law.
They can pass their own laws. What are your thoughts
(04:20):
as the Attorney General of Tennessee on the idea of
a Tennessee kid, let's say, going to Illinois or New
York or California. Do you think this should be something
looked at on a federal level? How do you look
at those kind of decisions? Someone leaving the state to
have a surgery that wouldn't be allowed in Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So the Constitution gives each state a lot of authority
about what goes on in state. You know, I've certainly
got very strong personal opinions about this, But legally, you know,
what we can do in Tennessee is stop stuff from
coming in from other states. So if a doctor is
trying to send foremones into the state for kid, you know,
that's against Tennessee law. We could do something about that.
(05:05):
You know, there are certain laws that can deal with
you know, folks who aren't the parents trying to take
kids out of state. But there are still some really
complicated legal issues out there, and I think, you know,
I suspect that at the end of the day, this
is going to be resolved by the medical evidence as
opposed to by litigation.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I think you're you're you're seeing a lot of momentum
on the.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Side of However, however serious a problem this is, permanent,
irreversible treatments for.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Kids is not the answer.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, most kids outgrow feelings of gender confusion, and
so subjecting them to these these procedures that will sterilize them,
that can eliminate any sort of sexual function that cause
all sorts of potential development issues, both physically and cognitively.
You know that the science just isn't there. And my
(05:56):
hope is that as people pull back from the culture war,
pull back from the ideology, and just look at what
the medical research tells us, you're going to see a
lot of these hard left states move in the direction
Tennessee's gone, not because they're culture warriors, but because they're rational.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's well said.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Also, it would suggest, and again I know you're the
attorney general, but that I would imagine we both have
law degrees here to what you just said. As kids
are aging, and there are not an insubstantial number of
these kids that are growing into adults and deciding, boy,
(06:38):
I wish I had never done this surgery. I want
to de transition. I would think a lot of these
kids who were miners when they had surgery would have
really compelling lawsuit opportunities as plaintiffs against the doctors and
hospitals that operated on them as miners. Wouldn't there be
(06:59):
in your or minds some claims out there that are
likely to be moving through the court system, which, in
addition to all of the investigatory data that is saying, hey,
this is not actually making kids healthier or better off.
There's also potentially liability from a civil perspective that many
of these doctors and hospitals might be facing.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think that's absolutely a consideration, and you know, particularly
when you look at the people who are pushing the
fraudulent research, you know that that is difficult to defend.
And of course there are jurisdictional issues people have to
have a cause of action to bring. But I certainly
would be pretty.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Nervous if I were somebody who had been doing this.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You know, it's still relatively early for large numbers of
people to be getting these treatments, and as time goes on,
you know, it's inevitable that the number of detransitioners goes up,
maybe goes up very quickly to a very big number.
You know, there is a lot of potential exposure there,
and I'm sure that there are lawyers on both sides
(08:04):
of the v looking at what that might portend.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Talking to the Attorney General at Tennessee, Jonathan Scermetti Big six'
three win on behalf of the state as it pertains
to these, TREATMENTS i think that's. IMPORTANT i started off
the show talking about having a great deal of empathy
and sympathy for a lot of these kids who are
being led, astray but also. Parents i'm sure you've heard
(08:28):
more than anybody you got ready for this, case the
number of times that you, heard, oh you can either
have a live you, know daughter or a dead, son
or some variation of that that a medical professional would
tell a, parent which is a form of emotional blackmail
That i'm not sure most parents are prepared to deal
(08:49):
with because the idea of something like suicide is so
awful for so many parents out there to think about
this is this is really kind of daggering that it
became a commonplace?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Argument did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Way also just even stepping a bit out of the
law and looking at the larger culture surrounding this.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Discussion, SO i think.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The single biggest thing that happened at the argument in
this case is When Chase, strangio THE aclu lawyer on,
it conceded that this does not have an effect on suicide,
rates because that is what's been used to push.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
A lot of parents and, listen this is really hard for.
Kids this is really hard for their.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Parents they are dealing with a very confusing and complicated,
issue and there's been such an ideological influence on how
this has discussed that you, know what's best for your
kid gets tied up with somebody else's political. Agenda AND
i have a lot of sympathy for families.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
That are dealing with. This we all need to be
thoughtful and, supportive AND i, mean this is a, hard hard.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Thing So i'm hoping that by shining the light on
the debate about medical evidence and by bringing the actual
evidence to the, forefront and that's what the court. DID i,
mean this is squarely about the legislator's ability to evaluate
evidence and reach a decision in the medical. Context i'm
hoping that by talking about the, evidence we're able to
bring some more clarity and some comfort to families and
(10:20):
not just have this be a snap decision based on you,
know who they voted for for president or who they're
talking to and what they care about. Politics this is
a really serious medical, issue AND i don't think we've
been doing right by our.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Kids did you expect this?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Result it's always hard for anybody out there that is
trying to analyze questions and the overall oral argument aspect of.
This were you confident this would be the. Result what
did you expect and how does it comport with the
result now that you have?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It so argument went really. Well you, KNOW i thought
our briefing was.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
GREAT i have a phenomenal team here that they.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Did a, really, really really good.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Job they worked hard on.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That, yes but you never want to be. CONFIDENT i
mean that justices have months and months to go over.
This they could have come up with some issues that
we hadn't even thought. About you, know they're looking at
the effect of their decision on the law as a.
Whole there were a bunch of different ways The court
could have gone to give us a win, here AND
(11:19):
i think The Chief justice very carefully chose a narrow
path that really focuses on the fact that we're talking
about kids and medical. Treatment this is not a case
about transgender. Status this is not a case about sex.
Discrimination you, know necessarily you have to take into account
whether somebody's a boy or a girl when you're looking
at how medications affect, them because there is a physical difference.
(11:43):
Sometimes AND i thought this opinion did a really good
job of walking through why this is not a big
ideological issue but simply a traditional look at how legislatures
regulate the practice of, medicine which is something they've been
doing for hundreds of.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Years last arquestion for, you and maybe there's an answer
different than. This it, seemed AS i have had a
chance to look at, this that treating trans people as
not a protected class is a significant component of this.
Ruling was there anything else that you've picked up on
that you think is significant not only for this case
(12:18):
but going forward so far that may not be getting
talked about enough or.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Discussed so you.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Know there was talk about whether the court should look
at whether transgender status is a protected, class and The
Chief justice, said we don't have to get there because
this isn't about a law that's directed at transgender.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
People it's about a law that's directed at medical treatments for.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Kids so there was a concurrence By Justice barrett That
Justice thomas joined that, said, well we don't think it's
a protected. Class and here's. Why there was an opinion
By Justice alito that, Said i'm not sure The court's really.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Able to duck this.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Question so this is looming out. There there'll probably be
more litigation on that. Front given how Aggressive tennessee's legislature
has been on these issues and how aggressive we've been litigating.
Them you, know we may well be in the middle
of that going, forward but there are still open questions
here that The court's going to have to answer at some.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Point, well, Congratulations thank you on behalf Of tennesseeans for,
sure but also many people across the nation listening to
us right now who feel like you have won a
big battle for sanity and for parents and for kids
that are dealing with difficult issues out. There so thank, you,
congratulations and we appreciate the.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Time thank.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
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the big decision that came down a little bit earlier.
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With us Now Louisiana Senator Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Cassidy he is working through on the big beautiful. Bill
let's start there or appreciate the. Time how optimistic are?
YOU i, heard or at least saw That Susie Wiles's
White House chief Of staff just encouraged everyone to get
this thing done before The july fourth, holiday that obviously
(19:14):
is very. Soon are you optimistic that things are moving
in that? Direction where would you say the bill is right?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Now you, KNOW i don't care if we get it
done By july, Fourth that's it's kind of an artificial.
Deadline could we get it done By july eleventh and
the world keeps going? Around? Yet absolutely, does but we
will get something. DONE i just want to get something
done right as opposed to something done.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Quickly all, right what is right about this bill in your?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Mind, well let me just talk about What i'm responsible,
for which is The Help. Committee if our goal is
to help middle and Working america have a better life
in The United states Of, america we can start with
a student loan. Mess if The biden people had said
four or five years, ago let's screw up student, loans
they couldn't have done a better job what they. Did
(20:00):
so we're going to end the scheme that transfers the
money that the debt from somebody who willingly took it
to go to college to the guy that never went
or paid back his. LOAN i, mean if the truck
drivers paying back his truck loan, debt why doesn't the
student pay back the student loan. Debt we're going to increase.
Affordability we're going to hold universities. Accountable we're going to
(20:23):
increase access to things like technical schools so somebody can
be a master weld or go out and make six
figures working like they want. To So i'll start with
that BECAUSE i think we're going to do a really
good job with.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That, okay so the bill you are optimistic is going to.
Pass we talked with While i've been up here IN
Dc Ran paul And Ron. Johnson they seem to think
there needs to be more spending. CUTS i read The
Wall Street journal editorial this. Morning they say that seems
to be. Occurring but you are optimistic that there will
(20:56):
be at least fifty votes on this.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Bill at a. MINIMUM.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Jd van's able to break the tie and things are
looking good.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
There, YES i. Do and some of the spending cuts
are going to be things which kind of balloon in the.
Future so you don't fix a problem with spending right
off the, bat but you want to begin to point
the ship of state in a direction which begins to
lower that debt over. Time and if you get, greedy
(21:26):
oh we're going to cut everything all at, once it never.
Happens but if you say, no we're going to make,
changes and those changes will grow over time according to
the pathway in which we, start then you can actually
decrease the. Spending and that should be the. Goal and
by the, way if it can't pass The senator of The,
house then it's just a debate. Society so let's get
something that can pass The.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Senate in The, house we're talking To Senator bocacidy Of.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Louisiana, okay obviously tons of discussion About israel And. Iran
The president talked to the media earlier today as he
was putting up the new flag poles about the situation In.
Iran if The president called you right, now your advice
to him would be.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
WHAT i think The president's handling it pretty. Well israel
has been given free reign to go in and attempt
to take out their. Bomb The iranians are shooting fewer.
Missiles you can imagine that the bombing That israel has
done and the sabotage of The iranian ballistic missile sites
is starting to just decrease the number they have to shoot. Off,
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ideally The iranians will come to the bargaining, table but
by the, way that should not Restrain. Israel israel should
be doing everything they can to make sure that hopefully
there's regime change from my, perspective but also that they
don't have the ability to further develop their nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
As you look at the, well, okay so all that's super.
Serious are you going to be WATCHING lsu Play arkansas
tonight in The College World?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
SERIES i.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
AM i, mean you, know the crazy thing Is arkansas's.
Favored i'm, thinking how Can arkansas be favored when we
beat them two out of the three during the and
then we just beat him. Again but it's gonna be
a great, game and it's good two good.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Teams IS lsu going to have a better baseball team
this year or a football?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
TEAM i think that they are going to win The
national championship in, baseball AND i think they can contend in.
Football football is so dependent upon. Injuries but we've got
a great quarterback fifth year Senior Garrett. Nusmeyer, uh some
people say he might be A Heisman trophy. Candidate of,
Course Hope Springs, eternal but we've had two in the
last six or seven, years SO i think we're going
(23:29):
to be pretty. Good, man who's your, team who's your?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well i'm A university Of tennessee, fans so born and
raised in the state Of, tennessee BUT i will say
this AND i do think this is uh that this
is one of the great things that you, Know buck
is not on right. Now he's you, know over in
The French riviera selling ads for the, show so not
a tough job for. Him but he had never been
to a college football. Game i've taken him to MULTIPLE sec.
(23:52):
GAMES i love college. Football it's probably my favorite thing
just for pure entertainment in the. Country for people who
have never been to AN lsu night, game people who
have never been To Baton, rouge how would you describe the?
Experience what would what would you tell them to expect
if they are able to go to a, game.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
If it is a big. GAME lsu Played tennessee And
Nick saban's first or second year when he was AT
lsu And tennessee was. Favored we won on a last second.
Play there is no excitement like, that and the crowd
stay in the, crowd stay in the, stadium and they
just they just cheer and cheer and. Cheer it is.
(24:33):
Electrifying is, Overused it is.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
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Speaker 1 (24:38):
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took him to AN Lsu oregon game a few years
ago In Jerry world in The dallas in The Dallas Cowboys,
stadium and one of my buddies turned to me and he,
SAID i don't understand how these people can still walk
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Speaker 2 (24:55):
Consumed at the pregame.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
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Speaker 2 (25:02):
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Fay the food's, Fantastic and, yes the fans do get pretty,
spirited But i'm sure that includes the contributes to the
atmosphere within the. Stadium but they're also very welcoming of.
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was down for The Super, bowl AND i know the
awful terror attack that happened with The Sugar bowl about to.
Happen but there seems to be in your state Of
louisiana very positive trajectory in terms of. Safety you've got
A republican governor In you've been working.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hard a lot of others have as.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well do you feel good momentus them about the lessening
of violence and the return of safety for lots of
people who may come To, louisiana Particularly New, orleans which
is one of the top tourist destinations in the entire.
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World, frankly, absolutely if you look at the, statistics the
rate of crime is going. Down they've got systems in
place to make it. Happen the state and the locals
are making it a, priority and they understand that people
are not going to live In New orleans or Visit
New orleans nless it's. Safe and now they've made it
a lot. Safer there's room to. Go that's. Fine there's
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always a way to get better than you. Are but
they're making. Progress and by the, way Super, BOWL i
thought that the city almost had never looked. Better it was.
Fabulous it really was fabulous and a good. Time and
of course it's a great city to have an event
because you can walk every place enjoy yourself that time of,
year the weather's. Pleasant and along the, way by the,
way we're getting lots of good investments with good, jobs
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so my state's looking.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Up, yeah let me just point this out. Too we
got a lot of history. Nerds i'm one of them out.
There The World War Two museum In New orleans is
one of the best, museums if not the best museum
almost anywhere in the. Country i'm sure you've been several.
TIMES i have as. WELL i try to go every
Time i'm In New. Orleans for people who haven't been,
there how spectacular is?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It it really. Is and it's also for young. Kids
and WHEN i say, young my grandson is eleven and
he's been fifteen. Times it is big enough that he
can see something new every. Time. Now, granted once he
wanted my phone to take pictures of the. Airplanes THEN
i realize he's taking pictures of the girls on the
side of the.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Plane, OH i saw on the bombers they had the
pretty girls on the side of the. Plane, YES i
know exactly what he was talking. ABOUT i don't THINK
i took a, picture BUT i.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Noticed, yeah you, Noticed.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
SENATOR i appreciate the, time and we will talk to you.
Again Pil, cassidy good luck on the big beautiful bill that,
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guys back in the forties.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They like girls, too you, know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Just pointing out they had some pretty girls that they
drew on the side of some of those bomber planes
they were using to take Out.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
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Them go to The World War Two, museum which is
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and he also interacted with the media as a part
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of that, endeavor and there were some fun fireworks in.
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Iran first of, all before we even get into, that
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the construction workers who were building the flag putting in the,
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by the, way on The iranian. Situation this is one
of those things we talked about a. Lot you can
Criticize trump and anybody in public for a variety of.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Perspectives trump has.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Been absolutely consistent in the fact That iran cannot be
allowed to get a nuclear. Weapon and here he is,
saying for forty years they've been chanting death To, america
and for the, moment from the moment he came down the,
escalator he's been consistent they can't get a nuclear. Weapon
here's cut For you, know they had.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Bad, intentions you know the for forty years they've been
saying death To, america death To, israel death to anybody
else that they didn't. Like they were, bullies they were schoolyard.
Bullies and now they're not bullies. Anymore but we'll see what. Happens,
look nothing's finished until it's. Finished gener war is Very
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of funs of, Man SO i don't. KNOW i wouldn't
say that we want anything. YET i would say that
we sure as all made a lot of, progress and we'll.
See the next week is going to be very, big
maybe less than a, week maybe. Less and we've been
threatened By iran for many. Years you, know if you
go back and look at my, history if you go
back fifteen, YEARS i was saying we cannot Let iran
(32:24):
get a NUCLEAR. Wep But i've been saying it for
a long.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
TIME i mean it more.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now all, Right so that Is trump earlier today on
the latest. Start i'm going to get to a couple
of your calls here to. Close BUT i did want
to play This Whitney cummings, comedian AND i saw this
circulating on social media AND i thought this was. Funny she, Said,
Hey i've always been a hardcore, liberal but as soon
AS i had a, kid things, changed AND i think
(32:48):
this may be somewhat representative of the path that some
of you have had told in comedic. Fashion here's cut.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Six it's been fascinating Because i've been on this sort
of journey through motherhood where you, Know i've always been
very liberal, person maybe even a live hard but once
you have a, kid you start like having thoughts that
have been characterized as. Conservative as soon AS i had a,
KID i was, LIKE i need a gun, now not for,
myself Because i've got coyotes in my. Yard i've got coyotes.
(33:16):
Everywhere and BEFORE i had a, KID i was, like
they coexist with. Us coyotes were here, First, Like i'm
in the coyotes. Home Now i'm, like let's make hats
out of. Them let's make, Hats let's make coyote, boots
coyote earrings out of their.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Eyeballs this is really.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Funny she was On Bill maher talking about, that AND
i do think it is comedically representative of what fatherhood
and motherhood can lead to sometimes when you're not just
responsible for.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yourself george And, louisiana what you got for?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Us this is A George colin From. Louisiana first, off
JUST i want to thank you for going to be
with us On, juneteenth AND i.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Amaze i'm not taking the day off for any body out.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
THERE i will be working On. Juneteenth but, yes.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
And Are i'm very happy you're going to be with. Us,
YES i am a gay male AND i have been
involved in the gay community for a very long, time
probably about forty. YEARS i am From, washington D. C
and that's WHERE i started working in the gay bars
and throughout the. COMMUNITY i did sound AND i was
(34:25):
A dj in all of those, clubs and in all
of that, time and it's also Involved New, york and
all of that, TIME i have only seen one person
that could be considered to be a woman stuck inside
of a man's, body out of all of. Them then
WHEN i moved To, LOUISIANA i did the same. THING
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i continued the same work in the gay. Community i've
come across hundreds of thousands of, people hundreds of, Thousands
i've only seen the. One and WHEN i met my
husband thirty years, ago we've been together for thirty. Years
he was also very actively involved in the gay community
In New. Orleans he knew.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Too, yeah thank you for the, yes.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
These parents living vicariously through their.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Children sorry he had to drop because we're. Finishing but
what he's saying is very. True the number of actually
trans people that have true gender, dysphoria it's an awful.
Thing but the gay, community many of them look around and,
(35:34):
say this is not our. Struggle many of them are,
saying this is not representative of.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Us that.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
CALL i bet you there are a ton of people
out there that are gay that are nodding. Along they're
all put into the same. Bucket but many gay people are, saying,
look this is not, healthy particularly for. Children we can't
be treating people like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
This thank. Y'all
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
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Buck is on.
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In the Mediterranean on the French Riviera, living it up
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We thank you for supporting the show our five hundred
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all of you listening on podcast out there. We head
now down to Nashville, my hometown, where the Attorney General
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of the State of Tennessee, my home state, has won
a huge Supreme Court victory this morning by a six
to three margin. The Supreme Court affirmed the State of
Tennessee's right to restrict so called gender surgery treatments, however
you want to classify it for minors living in the
(01:00):
state of Tennessee. And the man who helped to argue
that case and construct the defense of the law passed
by the Tennessee State legislature is the Attorney General of Tennessee,
Jonathan Scrimetti. He joins us now, first of all, congrats,
and what's it like? How do you become aware that
you have won a big case like this, Where were you?
(01:22):
Does your phone blow up? I mean, that's got to
be a pretty amazing feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
What was that like, Well, it's I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's crazy. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I did not expect it to come out today. I
thought we'd have another week or so to wait, and
then all of a sudden, my Solicitor General Matt Rice,
who argued the case in the Supreme Court, said it's out,
and then we immediately scrambled to read it and see
what happened. And I still haven't been through all of
the opinions, working my way through, but yeah, my phone
absolutely blew up. We've been doing a bunch of media stuff.
(01:53):
Senator Blackburn and I did a press conference on AI
a few minutes ago too, so there was a little
break from the Supreme Court stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But it's been a busy day.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I mean, you know, people care a lot about this issue.
We have fought so hard on it, We've taken so
much fire for it.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It is really vindicating to come out with the win.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
All right, I think you're one of the best attorney
general smartest. I'm not just saying this because you happen
to be in my state. I think if you look
at the data, you have been on the right side
of a lot of these issues. Having said that, would
you have ever believed that you would need to argue
that you can't do these surgeries on minor children when
in the context of body alteration, it's been common since
(02:34):
for generations that, for instance, a fifteen year old couldn't
get a full back tattoo virtually anywhere, that no parent
would be allowed to do that. It's kind of staggering
that we got here, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It is incredible how fast everything is moved. But that
comes on the back of decades and decades of academic
work by people who are you really focused on the
idel And what we saw when we put this case together,
what we saw, because Alabama had been litigating it and
their Attorney General, Steve Marshall, had been fighting really hard,
(03:09):
is that all the science underlying giving these treatments to
kids was fraudulent, that it had been doctored in ways
that were particularly designed to affect the.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Outcomes in court.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And so it's just built on a house of sand.
And you see even these countries in Europe, you know
the UK and Sweden and Norway and all these countries
which are by no means conservative, But as they look
at the evidence coming in, they've.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Said, we can't do this to our kids.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
There's huge risk, there's.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Little if any benefit.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So, you know, it's wild that we have seen such
big changes. I think what we're seeing now is a
course correction and people realizing that as real as these
feelings are for kids, as hard as it is to
deal with gender dysphoria, the evidence just does not support
these treatments for them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, So six three Supreme Court says this of Tennessee
can do this. This means that other states out there
are also able to put in place similar laws as
the one Tennessee has. But it also means that I
would imagine other states are not required to follow this law.
They can pass their own laws. What are your thoughts
(04:20):
as the Attorney General of Tennessee on the idea of
a Tennessee kid, let's say, going to Illinois or New
York or California. Do you think this should be something
looked at on a federal level? How do you look
at those kind of decisions? Someone leaving the state to
have a surgery that wouldn't be allowed in Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So the Constitution gives each state a lot of authority
about what goes on in state. You know, I've certainly
got very strong personal opinions about this, But legally, you know,
what we can do in Tennessee is stop stuff from
coming in from other states. So if a doctor is
trying to send foremones into the state for kid, you know,
that's against Tennessee law. We could do something about that.
(05:05):
You know, there are certain laws that can deal with
you know, folks who aren't the parents trying to take
kids out of state. But there are still some really
complicated legal issues out there, and I think, you know,
I suspect that at the end of the day, this
is going to be resolved by the medical evidence as
opposed to by litigation.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
I think you're you're you're seeing a lot of momentum
on the.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Side of However, however serious a problem this is, permanent,
irreversible treatments for.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Kids is not the answer.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, most kids outgrow feelings of gender confusion, and
so subjecting them to these these procedures that will sterilize them,
that can eliminate any sort of sexual function that cause
all sorts of potential development issues, both physically and cognitively.
You know that the science just isn't there. And my
(05:56):
hope is that as people pull back from the culture war,
pull back from the ideology, and just look at what
the medical research tells us, you're going to see a
lot of these hard left states move in the direction
Tennessee's gone, not because they're culture warriors, but because they're rational.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's well said.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Also, it would suggest, and again I know you're the
attorney general, but that I would imagine we both have
law degrees here to what you just said. As kids
are aging, and there are not an insubstantial number of
these kids that are growing into adults and deciding, boy,
(06:38):
I wish I had never done this surgery. I want
to de transition. I would think a lot of these
kids who were miners when they had surgery would have
really compelling lawsuit opportunities as plaintiffs against the doctors and
hospitals that operated on them as miners. Wouldn't there be
(06:59):
in your or minds some claims out there that are
likely to be moving through the court system, which, in
addition to all of the investigatory data that is saying, hey,
this is not actually making kids healthier or better off.
There's also potentially liability from a civil perspective that many
of these doctors and hospitals might be facing.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think that's absolutely a consideration, and you know, particularly
when you look at the people who are pushing the
fraudulent research, you know that that is difficult to defend.
And of course there are jurisdictional issues people have to
have a cause of action to bring. But I certainly
would be pretty.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Nervous if I were somebody who had been doing this.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You know, it's still relatively early for large numbers of
people to be getting these treatments, and as time goes on,
you know, it's inevitable that the number of detransitioners goes up,
maybe goes up very quickly to a very big number.
You know, there is a lot of potential exposure there,
and I'm sure that there are lawyers on both sides
(08:04):
of the v looking at what that might portend.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Talking to the Attorney General at Tennessee, Jonathan Scermetti Big six'
three win on behalf of the state as it pertains
to these, TREATMENTS i think that's. IMPORTANT i started off
the show talking about having a great deal of empathy
and sympathy for a lot of these kids who are
being led, astray but also. Parents i'm sure you've heard
(08:28):
more than anybody you got ready for this, case the
number of times that you, heard, oh you can either
have a live you, know daughter or a dead, son
or some variation of that that a medical professional would
tell a, parent which is a form of emotional blackmail
That i'm not sure most parents are prepared to deal
(08:49):
with because the idea of something like suicide is so
awful for so many parents out there to think about
this is this is really kind of daggering that it
became a commonplace?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Argument did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Way also just even stepping a bit out of the
law and looking at the larger culture surrounding this.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Discussion, SO i think.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
The single biggest thing that happened at the argument in
this case is When Chase, strangio THE aclu lawyer on,
it conceded that this does not have an effect on suicide,
rates because that is what's been used to push.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
A lot of parents and, listen this is really hard for.
Kids this is really hard for their.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Parents they are dealing with a very confusing and complicated,
issue and there's been such an ideological influence on how
this has discussed that you, know what's best for your
kid gets tied up with somebody else's political. Agenda AND
i have a lot of sympathy for families.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
That are dealing with. This we all need to be
thoughtful and, supportive AND i, mean this is a, hard hard.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Thing So i'm hoping that by shining the light on
the debate about medical evidence and by bringing the actual
evidence to the, forefront and that's what the court. DID i,
mean this is squarely about the legislator's ability to evaluate
evidence and reach a decision in the medical. Context i'm
hoping that by talking about the, evidence we're able to
bring some more clarity and some comfort to families and
(10:20):
not just have this be a snap decision based on you,
know who they voted for for president or who they're
talking to and what they care about. Politics this is
a really serious medical, issue AND i don't think we've
been doing right by our.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Kids did you expect this?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Result it's always hard for anybody out there that is
trying to analyze questions and the overall oral argument aspect of.
This were you confident this would be the. Result what
did you expect and how does it comport with the
result now that you have?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It so argument went really. Well you, KNOW i thought
our briefing was.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
GREAT i have a phenomenal team here that they.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Did a, really, really really good.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Job they worked hard on.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
That, yes but you never want to be. CONFIDENT i
mean that justices have months and months to go over.
This they could have come up with some issues that
we hadn't even thought. About you, know they're looking at
the effect of their decision on the law as a.
Whole there were a bunch of different ways The court
could have gone to give us a win, here AND
(11:19):
i think The Chief justice very carefully chose a narrow
path that really focuses on the fact that we're talking
about kids and medical. Treatment this is not a case
about transgender. Status this is not a case about sex.
Discrimination you, know necessarily you have to take into account
whether somebody's a boy or a girl when you're looking
at how medications affect, them because there is a physical difference.
(11:43):
Sometimes AND i thought this opinion did a really good
job of walking through why this is not a big
ideological issue but simply a traditional look at how legislatures
regulate the practice of, medicine which is something they've been
doing for hundreds of.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Years last arquestion for, you and maybe there's an answer
different than. This it, seemed AS i have had a
chance to look at, this that treating trans people as
not a protected class is a significant component of this.
Ruling was there anything else that you've picked up on
that you think is significant not only for this case
(12:18):
but going forward so far that may not be getting
talked about enough or.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Discussed so you.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Know there was talk about whether the court should look
at whether transgender status is a protected, class and The
Chief justice, said we don't have to get there because
this isn't about a law that's directed at transgender.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
People it's about a law that's directed at medical treatments for.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Kids so there was a concurrence By Justice barrett That
Justice thomas joined that, said, well we don't think it's
a protected. Class and here's. Why there was an opinion
By Justice alito that, Said i'm not sure The court's really.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Able to duck this.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Question so this is looming out. There there'll probably be
more litigation on that. Front given how Aggressive tennessee's legislature
has been on these issues and how aggressive we've been litigating.
Them you, know we may well be in the middle
of that going, forward but there are still open questions
here that The court's going to have to answer at some.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Point, well, Congratulations thank you on behalf Of tennesseeans for,
sure but also many people across the nation listening to
us right now who feel like you have won a
big battle for sanity and for parents and for kids
that are dealing with difficult issues out. There so thank, you,
congratulations and we appreciate the.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Time thank.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You look That's Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan scrimetti reacting to
the big decision that came down a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
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The word, boobs and a lot of you have been
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World let's get with, It Memory. Glands, Greg, well we
don't have. Time we'll get some of your. Calls senator
From Louisiana cassidy is going to join us here at
the bottom of the.
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Him feels like we've had almost every member of The
Republican senate on the show in the last week or,
so one of the benefits of being up IN dc and.
Beyond so we will talk With Senator cassidy when we come.
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
With us Now Louisiana Senator Bill.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Cassidy he is working through on the big beautiful. Bill
let's start there or appreciate the. Time how optimistic are?
YOU i, heard or at least saw That Susie Wiles's
White House chief Of staff just encouraged everyone to get
this thing done before The july fourth, holiday that obviously
(19:14):
is very. Soon are you optimistic that things are moving
in that? Direction where would you say the bill is right?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Now you, KNOW i don't care if we get it
done By july, Fourth that's it's kind of an artificial.
Deadline could we get it done By july eleventh and
the world keeps going? Around? Yet absolutely, does but we
will get something. DONE i just want to get something
done right as opposed to something done.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Quickly all, right what is right about this bill in your?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Mind, well let me just talk about What i'm responsible,
for which is The Help. Committee if our goal is
to help middle and Working america have a better life
in The United states Of, america we can start with
a student loan. Mess if The biden people had said
four or five years, ago let's screw up student, loans
they couldn't have done a better job what they. Did
(20:00):
so we're going to end the scheme that transfers the
money that the debt from somebody who willingly took it
to go to college to the guy that never went
or paid back his. LOAN i, mean if the truck
drivers paying back his truck loan, debt why doesn't the
student pay back the student loan. Debt we're going to increase.
Affordability we're going to hold universities. Accountable we're going to
(20:23):
increase access to things like technical schools so somebody can
be a master weld or go out and make six
figures working like they want. To So i'll start with
that BECAUSE i think we're going to do a really
good job with.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That, okay so the bill you are optimistic is going to.
Pass we talked with While i've been up here IN
Dc Ran paul And Ron. Johnson they seem to think
there needs to be more spending. CUTS i read The
Wall Street journal editorial this. Morning they say that seems
to be. Occurring but you are optimistic that there will
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be at least fifty votes on this.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Bill at a. MINIMUM.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Jd van's able to break the tie and things are
looking good.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
There, YES i. Do and some of the spending cuts
are going to be things which kind of balloon in the.
Future so you don't fix a problem with spending right
off the, bat but you want to begin to point
the ship of state in a direction which begins to
lower that debt over. Time and if you get, greedy
(21:26):
oh we're going to cut everything all at, once it never.
Happens but if you say, no we're going to make,
changes and those changes will grow over time according to
the pathway in which we, start then you can actually
decrease the. Spending and that should be the. Goal and
by the, way if it can't pass The senator of The,
house then it's just a debate. Society so let's get
something that can pass The.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Senate in The, house we're talking To Senator bocacidy Of.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Louisiana, okay obviously tons of discussion About israel And. Iran
The president talked to the media earlier today as he
was putting up the new flag poles about the situation In.
Iran if The president called you right, now your advice
to him would be.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
WHAT i think The president's handling it pretty. Well israel
has been given free reign to go in and attempt
to take out their. Bomb The iranians are shooting fewer.
Missiles you can imagine that the bombing That israel has
done and the sabotage of The iranian ballistic missile sites
is starting to just decrease the number they have to shoot. Off,
(22:24):
ideally The iranians will come to the bargaining, table but
by the, way that should not Restrain. Israel israel should
be doing everything they can to make sure that hopefully
there's regime change from my, perspective but also that they
don't have the ability to further develop their nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
As you look at the, well, okay so all that's super.
Serious are you going to be WATCHING lsu Play arkansas
tonight in The College World?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
SERIES i.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
AM i, mean you, know the crazy thing Is arkansas's.
Favored i'm, thinking how Can arkansas be favored when we
beat them two out of the three during the and
then we just beat him. Again but it's gonna be
a great, game and it's good two good.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Teams IS lsu going to have a better baseball team
this year or a football?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
TEAM i think that they are going to win The
national championship in, baseball AND i think they can contend in.
Football football is so dependent upon. Injuries but we've got
a great quarterback fifth year Senior Garrett. Nusmeyer, uh some
people say he might be A Heisman trophy. Candidate of,
Course Hope Springs, eternal but we've had two in the
last six or seven, years SO i think we're going
(23:29):
to be pretty. Good, man who's your, team who's your?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well i'm A university Of tennessee, fans so born and
raised in the state Of, tennessee BUT i will say
this AND i do think this is uh that this
is one of the great things that you, Know buck
is not on right. Now he's you, know over in
The French riviera selling ads for the, show so not
a tough job for. Him but he had never been
to a college football. Game i've taken him to MULTIPLE sec.
(23:52):
GAMES i love college. Football it's probably my favorite thing
just for pure entertainment in the. Country for people who
have never been to AN lsu night, game people who
have never been To Baton, rouge how would you describe the?
Experience what would what would you tell them to expect
if they are able to go to a, game.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
If it is a big. GAME lsu Played tennessee And
Nick saban's first or second year when he was AT
lsu And tennessee was. Favored we won on a last second.
Play there is no excitement like, that and the crowd
stay in the, crowd stay in the, stadium and they
just they just cheer and cheer and. Cheer it is.
(24:33):
Electrifying is, Overused it is.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Electrifying it is an incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Experience AND i would SAY i had buddies AND i
took him to AN Lsu oregon game a few years
ago In Jerry world in The dallas in The Dallas Cowboys,
stadium and one of my buddies turned to me and he,
SAID i don't understand how these people can still walk
given how much alcohol they have.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Consumed at the pregame.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Tailgate does anybody throw a better party THAN lsu fans
in your?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Mind before the.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
GAME i can tell you our. Tailgates, well they'll put
alligator on the barbecue and have jumbalayah and a two.
Fay the food's, Fantastic and, yes the fans do get pretty,
spirited But i'm sure that includes the contributes to the
atmosphere within the. Stadium but they're also very welcoming of.
Others they see you walking down and, yes if you're
(25:25):
wearing as they said in the Blind side that got
off of The orange For. Tennessee you may get a
jey or, two but as a rule of people are
happy to see.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
OTHERS i want to give.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
PLAUDITS i know we're on all Over, louisiana BUT i
was down for The Super, bowl AND i know the
awful terror attack that happened with The Sugar bowl about to.
Happen but there seems to be in your state Of
louisiana very positive trajectory in terms of. Safety you've got
A republican governor In you've been working.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Hard a lot of others have as.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well do you feel good momentus them about the lessening
of violence and the return of safety for lots of
people who may come To, louisiana Particularly New, orleans which
is one of the top tourist destinations in the entire.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
World, frankly, absolutely if you look at the, statistics the
rate of crime is going. Down they've got systems in
place to make it. Happen the state and the locals
are making it a, priority and they understand that people
are not going to live In New orleans or Visit
New orleans nless it's. Safe and now they've made it
a lot. Safer there's room to. Go that's. Fine there's
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always a way to get better than you. Are but
they're making. Progress and by the, way Super, BOWL i
thought that the city almost had never looked. Better it was.
Fabulous it really was fabulous and a good. Time and
of course it's a great city to have an event
because you can walk every place enjoy yourself that time of,
year the weather's. Pleasant and along the, way by the,
way we're getting lots of good investments with good, jobs
(26:53):
so my state's looking.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Up, yeah let me just point this out. Too we
got a lot of history. Nerds i'm one of them out.
There The World War Two museum In New orleans is
one of the best, museums if not the best museum
almost anywhere in the. Country i'm sure you've been several.
TIMES i have as. WELL i try to go every
Time i'm In New. Orleans for people who haven't been,
there how spectacular is?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
It it really. Is and it's also for young. Kids
and WHEN i say, young my grandson is eleven and
he's been fifteen. Times it is big enough that he
can see something new every. Time. Now, granted once he
wanted my phone to take pictures of the. Airplanes THEN
i realize he's taking pictures of the girls on the
side of the.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Plane, OH i saw on the bombers they had the
pretty girls on the side of the. Plane, YES i
know exactly what he was talking. ABOUT i don't THINK
i took a, picture BUT i.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Noticed, yeah you, Noticed.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
SENATOR i appreciate the, time and we will talk to you.
Again Pil, cassidy good luck on the big beautiful bill that,
Is Senator. Pilcssidy that is really. Funny the, bombers the
guys back in the forties.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They like girls, too you, know.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Just pointing out they had some pretty girls that they
drew on the side of some of those bomber planes
they were using to take Out.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Hitler and you can go see.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Them go to The World War Two, museum which is
a fabulous place THAT i would encourage all of you
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Speaker 2 (29:31):
Series all, right a.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Lot of you weighing, in, Uh AND i know there's
gonna be a bunch of those rolling over tomorrow as.
WELL i did want to Hit we talked About trump
putting in brand new flags outside of The White, house
which are going to be very very visible going, forward
and he also interacted with the media as a part
(29:54):
of that, endeavor and there were some fun fireworks in.
General let me pull up a couple of these and
let you hear Directly trump answering questions about the situation With.
Iran first of, all before we even get into, that
this is Vintage. Trump trump turned around and asked whether
the construction workers who were building the flag putting in the,
(30:16):
flagpole whether any of them were illegal immigrants or. Not
listen to cut.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Five do we have anybody in here that's a numbers
because you, KNOW i don't think.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So you've known all these people for a long.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Time any illegal.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Immigration if they, will they'll find. Happening they'll be checking.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
You you won't believe your whole life will be destroyed
because of this press. Conference, Well i've just they'll destroy these.
PEOPLE i didn't want to tell them that before this did.
Happened they'll end up being a he's a, so and
so this one.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Is from you.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Nowhere don't. WORRY i think YOU'VE i think you're gonna be.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Okay, Sure i'll be.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Right behind you from far behind.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You i'll be right behind.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
You trump making jokes about whether the construction workers on
the law and were leagal or, not because the media
was going to be investigating all of.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Them by the, way one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Hundred percent, true and if one of them were, illegal
it would lead seeing in OR msnbc. Tonight Here's, trump
by the, way on The iranian. Situation this is one
of those things we talked about a. Lot you can
Criticize trump and anybody in public for a variety of.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Perspectives trump has.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Been absolutely consistent in the fact That iran cannot be
allowed to get a nuclear. Weapon and here he is,
saying for forty years they've been chanting death To, america
and for the, moment from the moment he came down the,
escalator he's been consistent they can't get a nuclear. Weapon
here's cut For you, know they had.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Bad, intentions you know the for forty years they've been
saying death To, america death To, israel death to anybody
else that they didn't. Like they were, bullies they were schoolyard.
Bullies and now they're not bullies. Anymore but we'll see what. Happens,
look nothing's finished until it's. Finished gener war is Very
complex's a lot of bad things can, happen a lot
(32:02):
of funs of, Man SO i don't. KNOW i wouldn't
say that we want anything. YET i would say that
we sure as all made a lot of, progress and we'll.
See the next week is going to be very, big
maybe less than a, week maybe. Less and we've been
threatened By iran for many. Years you, know if you
go back and look at my, history if you go
back fifteen, YEARS i was saying we cannot Let iran
(32:24):
get a NUCLEAR. Wep But i've been saying it for
a long.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
TIME i mean it more.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Now all, Right so that Is trump earlier today on
the latest. Start i'm going to get to a couple
of your calls here to. Close BUT i did want
to play This Whitney cummings, comedian AND i saw this
circulating on social media AND i thought this was. Funny she, Said,
Hey i've always been a hardcore, liberal but as soon
AS i had a, kid things, changed AND i think
(32:48):
this may be somewhat representative of the path that some
of you have had told in comedic. Fashion here's cut.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Six it's been fascinating Because i've been on this sort
of journey through motherhood where you, Know i've always been
very liberal, person maybe even a live hard but once
you have a, kid you start like having thoughts that
have been characterized as. Conservative as soon AS i had a,
KID i was, LIKE i need a gun, now not for,
myself Because i've got coyotes in my. Yard i've got coyotes.
(33:16):
Everywhere and BEFORE i had a, KID i was, like
they coexist with. Us coyotes were here, First, Like i'm
in the coyotes. Home Now i'm, like let's make hats
out of. Them let's make, Hats let's make coyote, boots
coyote earrings out of their.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Eyeballs this is really.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Funny she was On Bill maher talking about, that AND
i do think it is comedically representative of what fatherhood
and motherhood can lead to sometimes when you're not just
responsible for.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yourself george And, louisiana what you got for?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Us this is A George colin From. Louisiana first, off
JUST i want to thank you for going to be
with us On, juneteenth AND i.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Amaze i'm not taking the day off for any body out.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
THERE i will be working On. Juneteenth but, yes.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
And Are i'm very happy you're going to be with. Us,
YES i am a gay male AND i have been
involved in the gay community for a very long, time
probably about forty. YEARS i am From, washington D. C
and that's WHERE i started working in the gay bars
and throughout the. COMMUNITY i did sound AND i was
(34:25):
A dj in all of those, clubs and in all
of that, time and it's also Involved New, york and
all of that, TIME i have only seen one person
that could be considered to be a woman stuck inside
of a man's, body out of all of. Them then
WHEN i moved To, LOUISIANA i did the same. THING
(34:47):
i continued the same work in the gay. Community i've
come across hundreds of thousands of, people hundreds of, Thousands
i've only seen the. One and WHEN i met my
husband thirty years, ago we've been together for thirty. Years
he was also very actively involved in the gay community
In New. Orleans he knew.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Too, yeah thank you for the, yes.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
These parents living vicariously through their.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Children sorry he had to drop because we're. Finishing but
what he's saying is very. True the number of actually
trans people that have true gender, dysphoria it's an awful.
Thing but the gay, community many of them look around and,
(35:34):
say this is not our. Struggle many of them are,
saying this is not representative of.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Us that.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
CALL i bet you there are a ton of people
out there that are gay that are nodding. Along they're
all put into the same. Bucket but many gay people are, saying,
look this is not, healthy particularly for. Children we can't
be treating people like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
This thank. Y'all
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