March 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Riley Gaines on the Minnesota House of Representatives vote on a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing on girls' sports team and the reaction she got to her pre-NASCAR prayer over the weekend. Shane Gillis SNL skit. Trump and Zelensky. Funny Oscars moment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, third hour, Clay and back kicks off. Now
joined by our friend Riley Gaines. Very fast swimmer, very
fast and also a great lady out there fighting for
sanity when it comes to women in sports. She's of
Fox News and outkicked. Riley, appreciate you being back with
(00:20):
us here. Once again. The fight continues even after this election,
and it feels like a lot of people on the
left realize that this is an eighty twenty issue against them.
You are still coming up against at least opposition when
it comes to the Democrats, the laws, they want, the policies.
What's the latest in the fight for women in athletics
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not having to compete against men.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, it is so good to be back on with you. Look,
we know the American people know we are finally in
a position which is in total contrast to the last
four years. We are finally in a position to get
things done. We have the ability to you, especially at
the federal level. We've seen President Trump find a beautifully
and thoroughly written executive order banningman from participating in women's sports.
(01:09):
We've seen Hr twenty eight past the House. We will
see a cloture vote tonight in the US Senate, which
transparently is not looking too good. Of course, this is
something that you can imagine will fall on party lines.
They need to cross that sixty vote hurdle, so we
shall see there. But all that to say, this executive
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order and what's happening at the federal level, it certainly
does not absolve states from doing what they need to
do in passing legislation to protect women. So I'm through
today to be in Minnesota, of course, governed by Tim Walls.
You remember that guy tampon. Tim. So we had a
fantastic rally today myself alongside people, amazing leaders like Jack Brewer,
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who has just been fantastic in this fight. Other initiatives
he says on is you know, the fatherlessness epidemic, especially
among those who are incarcerated. He's amazing. So it was awesome.
We had so many people, you know, concerned parents, We
had young athletes. There are hundreds of Minnesotas who had
had enough, who are ready to lend their voices to
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the fight, similar to what we've seen in May over
the past few days. Of course, following that interaction between
Governor Mels and President Trump just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Riley, appreciate you being on with us and all the
battles that you're fighting. I just kind of want to
bring this home for everybody out there listening, and you
can correct me if I'm wrong, because you've been far
more involved in all these details. This bill to protect
women and ensure that women's sports are only played by
women only got two Democrat votes in the House. I
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believe Republicans uniformly supported it, but only two Democrats did
in the Senate. There are fifty three Republicans that are
going to vote for this, but in order for it
to actually become a law due to the filibuster, we
need sixty total votes, right, so that would mean seven
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Democrat senators would need to step forward and support it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You can explain that a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But have any Democrats senators yet publicly said that they
will vote. I can't believe this is real. I still
can't believe this is political, that they will vote to
ensure that men don't compete in women's sports. Have any
Democrat senators said, hey, I'm for.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
This, that's funny. Clay the only one that did Listeniner Mansion, So,
of course is not there any longer. So no, we
have not seen any support from Democrats. You mentioned the House,
we saw two Democrats vote in favor of protecting women
and girls in sports, and of course these were two
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Texas Democrats who probably don't want to lose their seat
in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight. But nothing
from the Senate, which is amazing to me because you
have all these swing states, especially where you know, Wisconsin, Michigan,
Nevada where President Trump won but the Republican Senate nominee
did not.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So all that to say, we.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Are watching, especially people in these sway states, people like
Timmy Baldwin. Hopefully we can see some common sense from Fetterman,
that is someone who you know. Of course I would
not count on him, that's for sure, but we've been
surprised by Fetterman before a last flockin potentially Senator Ossoff
in Georgia, maybe Senator Warnock in Georgia. These are states
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where we're watching, the people are watching as well.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's where I was going to hammer.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here is Riley, the state of Georgia, double Democrat senators.
Trump won by several points. Brian Kemp, the governor, has
won by seven or eight. I saw Tommy Tubberville share
that seventy three percent of Georgians, and I bet it's
higher than that actually, But seventy three percent of Georgians
don't believe that women should be able to compete again,
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that men should be able to compete against women. That
would be wild if Georgia's Democrat senators aren't willing to
get online, particularly Asoff who is up for reelection, and
there's talk that Brian Camp may be running against him.
I would think that that might be a pretty big
deal next year in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know I think so too, and I want it
to be look louding. Let me make myself very very
clear here if these Democrats, or I really will say when,
especially those in very blue states, when these Democrats vote,
know they can expect twenty four to seven Republican ads
during the campaign cycle to consistently hammer home the fact
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that they do not believe girls as are fair sports.
Senator Warnock ad get another Georgia senator. You know, I
would have maybe had a little hope. But again, this
is the same senator who just a few weeks ago
voted no on the Lake and Riley Act, and that
happened in his home state of Georgia. So I don't
know if there's a lot of vote for Warnot, but
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there are some eyes on as off for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We're speaking to Riley Gaines of out Kicking Fox News. Riley,
we have fantastic VIPs on this show who write into
the special VIP email and one of them has a
question for you, or rather I guess a comment that
I'm supposed to make it to you. Be sure and
ask Riley this is from Mark. Be sure and ask
Riley about her prayer at NASCAR yesterday where she included
(06:27):
President Trump in it. Awesome tell us about this one,
because I didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm like, I'm so used to the liberal backlash that
I receive, but yesterday I was so honored to pray
say the pre race invocation at the NASCAR race in Austin, Texas.
And so in my prayer, of course I pray for
the safety of the drivers and their protection and the
families and the staff and all of that. But in
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my prayer I mentioned, you know, I said something to
the effect of blessed press r plus our president, bless
his cabin rest BLUs all of our leaders that they
may seek the Lord and his guidance and all decisions
that they make, because if that is done, we will
never be steered wrong and America will be made great again.
But for saying that, it is amazing the response that
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I've gotten, which I will say is the support is tenfold.
Anything negative, but people who have reached out to me saying,
you know, why would you make this prayer political. Let
me be clear. The Bible calls Christians to pray for
those in authority. That's made very clear in First Timothy.
So that's what I was doing against to seek the
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Lord's guidance and every decision that they make, of course,
and that's something I prayed for when President Biden was
in office as well. I prayed that his eyes would
be open to the truth, but I also prayed that
he seeks the Lord. So the backlash is just amazing
to me and NASCAR, of course, when I said that,
you can imagine the response of the crowd, roaring, applause,
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class all the things, because NASCAR is a sport where
that is the base, which is not why I do anything.
Of course, I did not say that to appease the base.
But the response that I received from the audience was telling.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Riley, you were in the White House when the President
signed his Protecting Women in Sports Decree, and it was
an incredible scene with all the young girls in particular,
all gathered around. What has the NC DOUBLEA response been
so far and do you think it's adequate?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, the NC DOUBLEA and true NC DOUBLEA fashion has
remained spinalless. I find it very obscure to believe that
the NC DOUBLEA essentially grew a backbone overnight and decided
to protect their athletes, especially their female athletes. That they
did release the statement following President Trump's Executive Order, Charlie
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Baker did saying that he will do everything to comply
with this CEO and with the federal law. You know,
they release their new policy, and this policy has glaring loopholes.
First and foremost, it does not define male, female or
the word sex itself. It does define gender identity, and
it does define man and woman, and it says that
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these two words are just gender identities. So we see
the problem when you don't have these terms defined, we
see unelected bureaucrats growth as a backdoor and reinterpret these
words to mean what they want them to mean. But
the big problem here is it also it resorts to
birth certificates as a way to determine sex, which again,
you can change your birth certificate in all but six
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states in this nation and across the world for that matter.
So again, this is not adequate. I believe it's in
direct contrasts totally conflicting with President Trump's thoroughly and beautifully
written executive order. But the White House has been pretty
quick to praise the NCAA in this policy, and so
it's been a mission of mind to make sure they know, look,
this policy is not good. And if something happens at
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this point, I believe President Trump will have egg on
his because he has supported this policy. So there's still,
of course time for him to come back and say,
you know what, Charlie Baker into double A and this
is not adequate and this does not follow this executive order.
So that's really what we're hoping for, Riley.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
As you're out there pushing for sanity here and trying
to defend women's sports, I'm wondering what your take is
on this. Clinton. I just talked about it a few
moments ago before you came on and joined us. The
Democrats right now, perhaps I think in retreat on this issue,
maybe in remission on this issue, are what in your mind,
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what is it going to take for them to change
their minds? Or rather, if they won the next election
based on what you see out there, do you think
that they would try to enforce all of the gender
ideology stuff all over again? I mean, are they still
committed to walking down this pathway of you know, macho
man Randy Savage competing against the women in the triathlon, etc.
(10:57):
Is that still a died in the world Democrat plan
or do you think they are looking for an exit
off this whole situation.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know what, if you would have asked me this
before November five, I would have told you that, of
course the Democrats will recant, they will distance themselves from
their voting record. Kamala Harris desperately tried to do such
in her campaign cycle, So that's what I would have
told you. But what we have seen following the election
is not at all what I expected. We have seen
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these elected officials, essentially the entire political party as well
as you know les leaning media double triple quadrupled down
on this topic, which can only lead you to believe
that that really it's their religion. They are so committed you.
I mean again, take the governor of Maine. She's willing
to put her state in a position where they risk
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losing over five billion dollars in federal funding. As a
small state population of one point four to one point
five million are very poor fit, they can't survive without
federal funding.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But you have a who is willing to risk every
single maners I mean federal funding for all to insist
that boys have a spot to trample and you know,
violate women on women's teams and in women's locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It is total lunacy. So I believe, look tomorrow, if
the Democrats were to win, let's say, you know, in
four years, god forbid someone like aoc I saw this
morning actually where Governor Wallas is considering running for president
in twenty twenty eight. God forbid either of these people
get in office. I believe at this point a lot
can happen in four years. But I believe they will
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continue to push this nonsense, that the nonsense that the
American people reject.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Riley, keep the fight going, We appreciate it. What do
you think, by the way, is going to happen in Minnesota.
Is Tampon Tim's home state going to protect women playing
sports or do you think they're going to sign up
and want more boys in girls sports?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, Minnesota is very unique because they have a one
vote majority in the House and the Democrats have a
one vote majority in the Senate, so it's a very
politically diverse, confusing state. So most everything falls on party line,
So it's not hopeful. It's helpful. It will pass the
House by one vote, but it won't be heard in
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the Senate. And of course, if this were to get
on Governor Walls's desk, he would certainly not sign, and
they don't have the majority to override this, so look,
it's not likely. But again it's important these people are
on record. Do they believe women are worthy of calling
themselves champions or not? It's simple. This this how they
vote on this bill gives the Minnesotas and again the
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American people everything they need to know to to be
able to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Riley Gain, stay in the fight, keep swimming upstream. Thanks
for being with us.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right swimming.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I was not expecting the swimming upstream, but good for you.
Like a nice little play on words there.
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On the front lines of truth. Welcome back everybody to
Clay and Buck. A lot of you write again, and
we obviously read those emails and we listen to those talkbacks.
By the way, we love the talkbacks. You gotta have
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right into us and uh and we can listen to it,
and we'll play some of them on air. But we
we hear all of them, or at least we read
the transcripts of all of them. Uh So a lot
of you want to know what we thought about Friday
Now that happened while we were on the air, that
fiery press conference with uh, Well, yeah, I was a
press conference like they were supposed to be more of
a formal press conference afterwards. But that sit down in
(19:03):
the Oval Office with Zelenski, Trump and JD. Vance and Clay,
I would say, I would say this. First off, I
went back and I had my wife's baby shower of
the weekend, so I had I had in laws and
my laws, my family whatever, you know what I mean.
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I had the family, my family, Carrie's family here. So
I was running around doing things Friday, chauffeuring, preparing all
that stuff. But baby shower went great. I went back
though over the weekend and listened to the entire exchange
that happened in the Oval Office everybody, and this happened
with us, And I don't know, Clay, if you've got it.
I mean, well, you couldn't play all forty five minutes
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on air. I don't know if you were able to
go back afterwards and listen to the whole thing when
you I assume yeah you did, because when you go
back and listen to the whole thing, Trump and Vance
were being entirely reasonable, respectful everything. Now, just as a
little side note, because there was a Trump said something
right at the beginning about this, I think Zelenski should
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put on a suit when he comes to the Oval office.
I don't think that's asking too much. I don't know
why that's such an issue. He's a very rich guy.
I don't care if he borrows a suit from one
of the Secret Service agents or something. Just put on
a suit, buddy. Okay, this weird showing up like you're
going to yoga class. I don't get it. Okay, I
don't think we need this. I think it's a little Now,
(20:29):
it's not that's not that alone is not a huge deal.
But Clay, just like if you're going in for a
job interview, and in a sense, Zelensky's interviewing for America
to help save his country's bacon, you don't want to
go into the job interview, wearing flip flops and having
the first person A first thing that the person you're
trying to impress see is you don't really care that much.
(20:49):
So I just do you want to you want to
hit on this quickly? Again? I agree with that on
some level. Here's my other point.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Do you want to get into an argument about major
geopolitical tensions in your third lifelanguage?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like a part of it?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I thought when he was saying, we're not talking about
playing cards, it's hard to know what is metaphor what
is analogy?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What is literal?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A lot of people don't speak English that well, and
it's your first language. I can't imagine getting into an
argument when my country's fate is on the line in
my second or third language, in front of a huge
media apparatus that seems to pick a fight. And I thought,
to your point, he picked a fight here. He didn't
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show up, leave aside the outfit, But how are you
not going in hat in hand begging for what you
have to receive in order to continue to be able
to fight for your country the entire I thought Vance
and Trump were actually willing to take a lot of
condescension from him during the first forty five minutes or
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so of this interaction.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, it's clear from it was clear from the again
watching there, and if you have the time, I'd recommend
watch the whole thing because the last ten minutes when
things got heated, that seems to come upon you seem
to come upon that pretty quickly. If you watch the
whole sit down, they're talking about the mineral rights, they're
talking about the you know, a whole it's forty five
minutes long. It's a whole range of stuff, a lot
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of Q and A with some members of the press
who were there. Nothing hostile, but then Zelensky decided to
try to challenge Vance and Trump. Really initially was Advance
and then Trump together on some things, and it just
wasn't the time, It wasn't the time of the place
for it. I think that Zelenski is somebody who has
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gotten used to being treated like a combination of George
Washington and Bono. You know, he's some kind of global celebrity.
He thinks it's Winston Churchill. Well sure, yeah, I mean,
but he thinks that he's Churchill was never disrespectful to
FDR in public. I can I can assure you of that,
having read multiple Churchill biographies, he was never like, look, buddy,
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you know, we all the shots here. He was like,
please give us the stuff we need so that we
can actually keep this fight going. So Clay it it
showed I think some aspects of this that have been
hidden from the public largely, which is that there is
an intransigence to the Lelenski side of this, or rather
to the Ukrainian regime, the democracy that doesn't have elections
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right now. I know they're not allowed to under their
constitution or whatever, but isn't that interesting, right So there's
there's a huge incentive for Zelenski to continue to be
pushing for exactly what he wants because he doesn't have
to worry about the will of the people. During this
war we held, as we talked about, the United States
held election really at a peak of the Civil War.
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It wasn't just during the Civil War. It was win
or lose time, and we still held an election at
Abraham Lincoln won that re election.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And he ran against the former head of the Union Army,
George McClellan. I mean, it's an extraordinary story. The eighteen
sixty four presidential election, which again goes to the historical
a literacy, that illiteracy that exists in.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
This country that people don't know that. I mean, I
think that Lincoln knew that he could thank Grant and
Sherman for his reelection Without those two guys, I don't
think he gets meaning their their victories on the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I don't Sherman taking Atlanta delivered the White House to
Lincoln for a second term.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean, and Grant having Sherman in place and
supporting him as his you know, immediate inferior general. I think. Anyway,
not to get too into the Civil War part of this,
but it is it is interesting how how that played out.
But here's what happens. Zelenski came out of this and
it was not good.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
CNN's Harry Enton. Uh, they're there, their bootleg Ryan Gerdusky,
if you will, their numbers. Guy here he is saying
that for Zolenski, the numbers in the America, in the
eyes of the American people, not looking good. This is
cut eighteen.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Obviously, if you would expect changes among the public feelings
towards Ukraine, feelings towards Zelensky have changed. Also dramatically. Look
at this confidence Zelenski will do the right thing when
it comes to world affairs. Back in twenty twenty two,
it was the clear majority, seventy two percent through the floor,
through the floor. By twenty twenty four, just forty eight
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percent of Americans say that they're confident that Zelensky will
do the right thing when it comes to world affairs,
and GOP confidence has also plummeted dramatically. Now the clear
majority of Republicans are not confident, not confident that Zelensky
will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now that's a big shift in a very short period
of time. Play. I think that a lot of the
propaganda around both Trump's bizarre or you know, fealty to
Russia and Zolensky as this beyond reproach, heroic leader. I
think there was a big shift in perception that occurred
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to this meeting. Why is Zelenski trying to litigate the
terms of a cease fire with the press there? He
should The truth is that when he's sitting there with
the press there, and he's talking to Trump and Dvance,
it should be thank you, thank you so much, guys.
We would you know. And also it's Zelenzi got a
little surly when Trump said without us, you wouldn't you know,
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you would have been able to continue. He's like, he's like,
I heard the same thing from Putin. I heard the
same thing from Brush. It's like, buddy, slow your role here, okay,
without America, and we're doing a lot of stuff without
getting too deep into this that people don't even know about,
to help these guys. All right, we have helped Ukraine,
not just with hundreds of billions and with a lot
of munitions, but with training, with intelligent support. We're doing
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all kinds of stuff to keep them in this fight.
You don't turn around and bite the hand that feeds
you here the way that he did. But I just
think that he's a little bit delusional, and I think
he's in a bad spot and doesn't want to admit it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Here's a provocative question for you, Buck, and I'll answer
it beforehand so I get blown up by this when
they clip it. Who do you trust more, Vladimir Putin
or the media that covered alleged Russia collusion in twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I'll give you my answer I
trust Putin more. I think that Putin was accurate. Yes,
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did they buy a couple one hundred thousand dollars maybe
of Facebook ads, but the idea that somehow he rigged
the twenty sixteen election, which is what was alleged by
the New York Times, by the Washington Post. They gave
themselves all Pulitzers for it, the made up Steele dossier,
Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
All of it was a lie.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And so if you're Trump and you're looking at this
conflict now between Ukraine and Russia, I think Trump will.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm not saying he thinks Vladimir Putin's a great guy.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I'm not saying that I want to go to dinner
and like hang out with Putin, But I think Putin
was more honest about what he did during the twenty
sixteen election. Then the American media was about the way
that they covered Putin in the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I just want to address this. One of our VIPs,
Troy in Michigan, says he disagrees with me about Zelensky's
attire because Arab leaders don't wear suits at the White House.
If you're wearing the traditional garb that you would wear
at a press conference as a leader of your own country.
That's different from showing up in a tracksuit. Zelenski doesn't know.
(28:31):
Zelenski in tracksuit is not like the traditional formal attire
of the Ukrainian people. He just decides that because he's
a wartime or a wartime leader wartime president, he's gonna
address this way. Look, Trump obviously didn't like it, so
it doesn't really even matter what the protocol is. He
should know enough about Trump to know that Trump didn't
(28:52):
want him showing up the way that he did. So
that's misstep number one. Whether someone agrees with it or
not doesn't really matter, because Zelenski should be able to
entiicipate that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, and if you do do that, because there are
photos out there of Winston Churchill basically showing up in
non suit attire to meet with FDR, I think if
you are, your idea is we're at war, so I'm
gonna wear a war type uniform, which I think is
what Zolensky would argue. Then, to your point earlier, Churchhill
(29:22):
worked as hard as he could to express his respect, admiration,
and deep gratitude for the support of the American people
and fought as hard as he could to get them
to get in on his side with the war. Remember,
we probably don't get into World War two if the
Japanese don't make the decision to attack us in Pearl Harbor.
(29:43):
I mean, I don't know exactly how the history of
the world plays out if that attack doesn't happen. But
if you know, and there is word that Trump said, Hey,
it would be appreciated if Zolensky would dressed in a
suit as a Western leader typically would. If you know
that you're doing something to provoke the eyre based on
the wardrobe at you start. If you are smart guy,
(30:06):
you probably don't feud with him. Other thing that you
pointed out, Buck, and I went back and I listened
to most of that entire press conference too. That was
the final question. They actually said, last question. If you
go back and listen to it, Zelinsky knew, Hey, I
basically made it through the whole public media availability. Just
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don't blow it up at the very end, and you
would have gotten your signed mineral rights agreement. I think, Buck,
I really do. I don't think he wants a cease fire.
I don't think he wants peace.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I just don't then this forces us to look at well, then,
what if that were true? What does he want right now?
He says he wants to cease fire with all kinds
of guarant with all kinds of guarantees. I would note
that he says, well, we can't trust a ceasefire with Putin.
He needs an additional guarantee beyond that. But the truth
is that you know anal guarantees in this world. Period. Okay,
(31:03):
you make the best deal you can with the realities
you have them. You hope there are some enforcement mechanisms,
there are some carrots and sticks, and you go forward
with that. It's not going to be perfect. But here's
the fundamentally the problem. This is a war that he
can't win. There's no future in which he can win
this war and expel Russian, the Russian Federation, the Russian
forces from the territory of Ukraine. So it has to
(31:26):
be a negotiated settlement. Everybody agrees about that. The only
disagreement so far, at least that's what we're led to believe,
is what are the terms of the negotiated settlement? You
don't play games with the only arbiter that you really
have in this process who has the kind of leverage
to get something done, which is Donald Trump. You don't
play games with them in front of the press on
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his home turf and is in the White House in
your foreign language. Yeah, well you know. I mean, he
speaks English well enough to know what was going on there.
But I still think I think that it was it
was a mess from the perspective of what the Ukrainian
people are trying to achieve and what would be best
for them. And I think the people that are so
opposed to this, what is their plan exactly? They have
(32:09):
All Biden did was sit around and send taxpayer dollars
to Ukraine with no accountability whatsoever for them to be
fighting a war that's never going that doesn't seem like
it's going to end until they've killed off every single
military age and able bodied man in Ukraine. I mean,
that's where this is heading.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To be fair, at least in the first couple of years,
you could argue there was an uncertainty about where it
might go, even if the overall favoritism of the odds
favored Russia all along. Now there is no argument. I
haven't heard a single person say, Hey, Ukraine is going
to kick Russia out of the territory they invaded and
restore their pre twenty twenty two border. So if you
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know that that's impossible, and I think everybody does, why
are you still allowing tens of thousands of people to die?
It feels like everyone, including seventy eight percent of Americans,
according to the most recent c and MPU, support a
ceasefire and into the war. Look talking about a ceasefire
and into a war. Situation in the Middle East is
still tumultuous. A man was killed four others wounded in
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show. I mentioned
I didn't watch the Oscars. I barely saw any of
the movies that were nominated for anything. I'm betting Buck
you did not watch the Oscars either, But I did
see this come across my Twitter timeline during the Oscars
last night, and it's pretty awesome. Kiaren Colkin, who is
(35:02):
the brother of Macaulay Culkin, was a star in the
show Succession most recently and I believe won an award
last night. An Oscar got up on the stage and
he had a message for his wife, who made a
bet that she probably didn't expect to get cash this quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
After the show, we're walking through a parking lot. She's
holding the Emmy. We're trying to find her car. Emily,
you were there, so your witness, and she goes, oh god,
I did say that. I guess I owe you a
third kid. And I turned to her and I said
maybe I want four, and she turned me. I swear
to God, this habitage just over a year ago. She said,
I will give you four when you win an Oscar.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I held my.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Hand out, she took it, and I have now brought
it up once until just now. You remember that, Honey,
you do okay? Then I just have this to say
to you, Jazz, love of my life, give little faith,
no pressure.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I'm really sorry I did this again. And let's get
cracking on those kids. What do you saying?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
So this is great, Buck, You've got your first coming soon.
He won a third kid with his wife. Betting he
would win an Emmy, she said, okay, I'll give you
four if you win an Oscar. Back to back years,
he won Best Supporting Actor last night. I thought that
was pretty great.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It was indeed more a coming tomorrow everybody
All right, third hour, Clay and back kicks off. Now
joined by our friend Riley Gaines. Very fast swimmer, very
fast and also a great lady out there fighting for
sanity when it comes to women in sports. She's of
Fox News and outkicked. Riley, appreciate you being back with
(00:20):
us here. Once again. The fight continues even after this election,
and it feels like a lot of people on the
left realize that this is an eighty twenty issue against them.
You are still coming up against at least opposition when
it comes to the Democrats, the laws, they want, the policies.
What's the latest in the fight for women in athletics
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not having to compete against men.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, it is so good to be back on with you. Look,
we know the American people know we are finally in
a position which is in total contrast to the last
four years. We are finally in a position to get
things done. We have the ability to you, especially at
the federal level. We've seen President Trump find a beautifully
and thoroughly written executive order banningman from participating in women's sports.
(01:09):
We've seen Hr twenty eight past the House. We will
see a cloture vote tonight in the US Senate, which
transparently is not looking too good. Of course, this is
something that you can imagine will fall on party lines.
They need to cross that sixty vote hurdle, so we
shall see there. But all that to say, this executive
(01:31):
order and what's happening at the federal level, it certainly
does not absolve states from doing what they need to
do in passing legislation to protect women. So I'm through
today to be in Minnesota, of course, governed by Tim Walls.
You remember that guy tampon. Tim. So we had a
fantastic rally today myself alongside people, amazing leaders like Jack Brewer,
(01:55):
who has just been fantastic in this fight. Other initiatives
he says on is you know, the fatherlessness epidemic, especially
among those who are incarcerated. He's amazing. So it was awesome.
We had so many people, you know, concerned parents, We
had young athletes. There are hundreds of Minnesotas who had
had enough, who are ready to lend their voices to
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the fight, similar to what we've seen in May over
the past few days. Of course, following that interaction between
Governor Mels and President Trump just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Riley, appreciate you being on with us and all the
battles that you're fighting. I just kind of want to
bring this home for everybody out there listening, and you
can correct me if I'm wrong, because you've been far
more involved in all these details. This bill to protect
women and ensure that women's sports are only played by
women only got two Democrat votes in the House. I
(02:48):
believe Republicans uniformly supported it, but only two Democrats did
in the Senate. There are fifty three Republicans that are
going to vote for this, but in order for it
to actually become a law due to the filibuster, we
need sixty total votes, right, so that would mean seven
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Democrat senators would need to step forward and support it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You can explain that a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But have any Democrats senators yet publicly said that they
will vote. I can't believe this is real. I still
can't believe this is political, that they will vote to
ensure that men don't compete in women's sports. Have any
Democrat senators said, hey, I'm for.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
This, that's funny. Clay the only one that did Listeniner Mansion, So,
of course is not there any longer. So no, we
have not seen any support from Democrats. You mentioned the House,
we saw two Democrats vote in favor of protecting women
and girls in sports, and of course these were two
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Texas Democrats who probably don't want to lose their seat
in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty eight. But nothing
from the Senate, which is amazing to me because you
have all these swing states, especially where you know, Wisconsin, Michigan,
Nevada where President Trump won but the Republican Senate nominee
did not.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So all that to say, we.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Are watching, especially people in these sway states, people like
Timmy Baldwin. Hopefully we can see some common sense from Fetterman,
that is someone who you know. Of course I would
not count on him, that's for sure, but we've been
surprised by Fetterman before a last flockin potentially Senator Ossoff
in Georgia, maybe Senator Warnock in Georgia. These are states
(04:36):
where we're watching, the people are watching as well.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's where I was going to hammer.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Here is Riley, the state of Georgia, double Democrat senators.
Trump won by several points. Brian Kemp, the governor, has
won by seven or eight. I saw Tommy Tubberville share
that seventy three percent of Georgians, and I bet it's
higher than that actually, But seventy three percent of Georgians
don't believe that women should be able to compete again,
(05:04):
that men should be able to compete against women. That
would be wild if Georgia's Democrat senators aren't willing to
get online, particularly Asoff who is up for reelection, and
there's talk that Brian Camp may be running against him.
I would think that that might be a pretty big
deal next year in Georgia.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know I think so too, and I want it
to be look louding. Let me make myself very very
clear here if these Democrats, or I really will say when,
especially those in very blue states, when these Democrats vote,
know they can expect twenty four to seven Republican ads
during the campaign cycle to consistently hammer home the fact
(05:43):
that they do not believe girls as are fair sports.
Senator Warnock ad get another Georgia senator. You know, I
would have maybe had a little hope. But again, this
is the same senator who just a few weeks ago
voted no on the Lake and Riley Act, and that
happened in his home state of Georgia. So I don't
know if there's a lot of vote for Warnot, but
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there are some eyes on as off for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
We're speaking to Riley Gaines of out Kicking Fox News. Riley,
we have fantastic VIPs on this show who write into
the special VIP email and one of them has a
question for you, or rather I guess a comment that
I'm supposed to make it to you. Be sure and
ask Riley this is from Mark. Be sure and ask
Riley about her prayer at NASCAR yesterday where she included
(06:27):
President Trump in it. Awesome tell us about this one,
because I didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I'm like, I'm so used to the liberal backlash that
I receive, but yesterday I was so honored to pray
say the pre race invocation at the NASCAR race in Austin, Texas.
And so in my prayer, of course I pray for
the safety of the drivers and their protection and the
families and the staff and all of that. But in
(06:55):
my prayer I mentioned, you know, I said something to
the effect of blessed press r plus our president, bless
his cabin rest BLUs all of our leaders that they
may seek the Lord and his guidance and all decisions
that they make, because if that is done, we will
never be steered wrong and America will be made great again.
But for saying that, it is amazing the response that
(07:16):
I've gotten, which I will say is the support is tenfold.
Anything negative, but people who have reached out to me saying,
you know, why would you make this prayer political. Let
me be clear. The Bible calls Christians to pray for
those in authority. That's made very clear in First Timothy.
So that's what I was doing against to seek the
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Lord's guidance and every decision that they make, of course,
and that's something I prayed for when President Biden was
in office as well. I prayed that his eyes would
be open to the truth, but I also prayed that
he seeks the Lord. So the backlash is just amazing
to me and NASCAR, of course, when I said that,
you can imagine the response of the crowd, roaring, applause,
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class all the things, because NASCAR is a sport where
that is the base, which is not why I do anything.
Of course, I did not say that to appease the base.
But the response that I received from the audience was telling.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Riley, you were in the White House when the President
signed his Protecting Women in Sports Decree, and it was
an incredible scene with all the young girls in particular,
all gathered around. What has the NC DOUBLEA response been
so far and do you think it's adequate?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, the NC DOUBLEA and true NC DOUBLEA fashion has
remained spinalless. I find it very obscure to believe that
the NC DOUBLEA essentially grew a backbone overnight and decided
to protect their athletes, especially their female athletes. That they
did release the statement following President Trump's Executive Order, Charlie
(08:53):
Baker did saying that he will do everything to comply
with this CEO and with the federal law. You know,
they release their new policy, and this policy has glaring loopholes.
First and foremost, it does not define male, female or
the word sex itself. It does define gender identity, and
it does define man and woman, and it says that
(09:14):
these two words are just gender identities. So we see
the problem when you don't have these terms defined, we
see unelected bureaucrats growth as a backdoor and reinterpret these
words to mean what they want them to mean. But
the big problem here is it also it resorts to
birth certificates as a way to determine sex, which again,
you can change your birth certificate in all but six
(09:35):
states in this nation and across the world for that matter.
So again, this is not adequate. I believe it's in
direct contrasts totally conflicting with President Trump's thoroughly and beautifully
written executive order. But the White House has been pretty
quick to praise the NCAA in this policy, and so
it's been a mission of mind to make sure they know, look,
this policy is not good. And if something happens at
(09:57):
this point, I believe President Trump will have egg on
his because he has supported this policy. So there's still,
of course time for him to come back and say,
you know what, Charlie Baker into double A and this
is not adequate and this does not follow this executive order.
So that's really what we're hoping for, Riley.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
As you're out there pushing for sanity here and trying
to defend women's sports, I'm wondering what your take is
on this. Clinton. I just talked about it a few
moments ago before you came on and joined us. The
Democrats right now, perhaps I think in retreat on this issue,
maybe in remission on this issue, are what in your mind,
(10:35):
what is it going to take for them to change
their minds? Or rather, if they won the next election
based on what you see out there, do you think
that they would try to enforce all of the gender
ideology stuff all over again? I mean, are they still
committed to walking down this pathway of you know, macho
man Randy Savage competing against the women in the triathlon, etc.
(10:57):
Is that still a died in the world Democrat plan
or do you think they are looking for an exit
off this whole situation.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You know what, if you would have asked me this
before November five, I would have told you that, of
course the Democrats will recant, they will distance themselves from
their voting record. Kamala Harris desperately tried to do such
in her campaign cycle, So that's what I would have
told you. But what we have seen following the election
is not at all what I expected. We have seen
(11:27):
these elected officials, essentially the entire political party as well
as you know les leaning media double triple quadrupled down
on this topic, which can only lead you to believe
that that really it's their religion. They are so committed you.
I mean again, take the governor of Maine. She's willing
to put her state in a position where they risk
(11:49):
losing over five billion dollars in federal funding. As a
small state population of one point four to one point
five million are very poor fit, they can't survive without
federal funding.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But you have a who is willing to risk every
single maners I mean federal funding for all to insist
that boys have a spot to trample and you know,
violate women on women's teams and in women's locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It is total lunacy. So I believe, look tomorrow, if
the Democrats were to win, let's say, you know, in
four years, god forbid someone like aoc I saw this
morning actually where Governor Wallas is considering running for president
in twenty twenty eight. God forbid either of these people
get in office. I believe at this point a lot
can happen in four years. But I believe they will
(12:37):
continue to push this nonsense, that the nonsense that the
American people reject.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Riley, keep the fight going, We appreciate it. What do
you think, by the way, is going to happen in Minnesota.
Is Tampon Tim's home state going to protect women playing
sports or do you think they're going to sign up
and want more boys in girls sports?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Well, Minnesota is very unique because they have a one
vote majority in the House and the Democrats have a
one vote majority in the Senate, so it's a very
politically diverse, confusing state. So most everything falls on party line,
So it's not hopeful. It's helpful. It will pass the
House by one vote, but it won't be heard in
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the Senate. And of course, if this were to get
on Governor Walls's desk, he would certainly not sign, and
they don't have the majority to override this, so look,
it's not likely. But again it's important these people are
on record. Do they believe women are worthy of calling
themselves champions or not? It's simple. This this how they
vote on this bill gives the Minnesotas and again the
(13:41):
American people everything they need to know to to be
able to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Riley Gain, stay in the fight, keep swimming upstream. Thanks
for being with us.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right swimming.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I was not expecting the swimming upstream, but good for you.
Like a nice little play on words there.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I did
not watch it, but I did see some of the
I didn't watch the Academy Awards. We got a good
clip we'll play for you at the end of the
show of that. It's actually a positive one. I did
not watch Saturday Night Live either. But Shane Gillis, who
is a Trump voting comedian out there, they.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Say he voted for Trump. I didn't know that. Is
that was that real?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I hope I didn't just blow him up. But okay, uh.
He was on as the guest host of SNL and
they had a skit, this is local news coverage skit.
And you have two black local news hosts. Obviously it's
a skit two white ones and their peting to see
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whether or not the criminals are going to be white
or black. It's actually very funny. I shared it on
my Twitter feed. We got to cut for you SNL
actually bringing a little bit of humor to the Saturday
Night Live airways.
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these looters.
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Dammit, that's great.
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Ok wait, wait.
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All right, So that the premise here, Buck is that
the white people are reacting and the black people reacting
based on the race of the alleged criminals, which basically
is social media. Every time there is a crime, we
wait to see, Oh, what exactly is the outcome here?
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If there's anything that's like a terrorist attack, yes, you
can just tell left and right getting ready and you know,
generally it's not what the left wants, but once in
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On the front lines of truth. Welcome back everybody to
Clay and Buck. A lot of you write again, and
we obviously read those emails and we listen to those talkbacks.
By the way, we love the talkbacks. You gotta have
the iheartapp to do it, though it's free. It's a
great thing on that talkback on the iHeart app. You
just go to the Clay and Buck page. You press
the microphone button, you record a little message, get sent
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right into us and uh and we can listen to it,
and we'll play some of them on air. But we
we hear all of them, or at least we read
the transcripts of all of them. Uh So a lot
of you want to know what we thought about Friday
Now that happened while we were on the air, that
fiery press conference with uh, Well, yeah, I was a
press conference like they were supposed to be more of
a formal press conference afterwards. But that sit down in
(19:03):
the Oval Office with Zelenski, Trump and JD. Vance and Clay,
I would say, I would say this. First off, I
went back and I had my wife's baby shower of
the weekend, so I had I had in laws and
my laws, my family whatever, you know what I mean.
(19:24):
I had the family, my family, Carrie's family here. So
I was running around doing things Friday, chauffeuring, preparing all
that stuff. But baby shower went great. I went back
though over the weekend and listened to the entire exchange
that happened in the Oval Office everybody, and this happened
with us, And I don't know, Clay, if you've got it.
I mean, well, you couldn't play all forty five minutes
(19:45):
on air. I don't know if you were able to
go back afterwards and listen to the whole thing when
you I assume yeah you did, because when you go
back and listen to the whole thing, Trump and Vance
were being entirely reasonable, respectful everything. Now, just as a
little side note, because there was a Trump said something
right at the beginning about this, I think Zelenski should
(20:08):
put on a suit when he comes to the Oval office.
I don't think that's asking too much. I don't know
why that's such an issue. He's a very rich guy.
I don't care if he borrows a suit from one
of the Secret Service agents or something. Just put on
a suit, buddy. Okay, this weird showing up like you're
going to yoga class. I don't get it. Okay, I
don't think we need this. I think it's a little Now,
(20:29):
it's not that's not that alone is not a huge deal.
But Clay, just like if you're going in for a
job interview, and in a sense, Zelensky's interviewing for America
to help save his country's bacon, you don't want to
go into the job interview, wearing flip flops and having
the first person A first thing that the person you're
trying to impress see is you don't really care that much.
(20:49):
So I just do you want to you want to
hit on this quickly? Again? I agree with that on
some level. Here's my other point.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Do you want to get into an argument about major
geopolitical tensions in your third lifelanguage?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like a part of it?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I thought when he was saying, we're not talking about
playing cards, it's hard to know what is metaphor what
is analogy?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What is literal?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
A lot of people don't speak English that well, and
it's your first language. I can't imagine getting into an
argument when my country's fate is on the line in
my second or third language, in front of a huge
media apparatus that seems to pick a fight. And I thought,
to your point, he picked a fight here. He didn't
(21:32):
show up, leave aside the outfit, But how are you
not going in hat in hand begging for what you
have to receive in order to continue to be able
to fight for your country the entire I thought Vance
and Trump were actually willing to take a lot of
condescension from him during the first forty five minutes or
(21:53):
so of this interaction.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, it's clear from it was clear from the again
watching there, and if you have the time, I'd recommend
watch the whole thing because the last ten minutes when
things got heated, that seems to come upon you seem
to come upon that pretty quickly. If you watch the
whole sit down, they're talking about the mineral rights, they're
talking about the you know, a whole it's forty five
minutes long. It's a whole range of stuff, a lot
(22:16):
of Q and A with some members of the press
who were there. Nothing hostile, but then Zelensky decided to
try to challenge Vance and Trump. Really initially was Advance
and then Trump together on some things, and it just
wasn't the time, It wasn't the time of the place
for it. I think that Zelenski is somebody who has
(22:38):
gotten used to being treated like a combination of George
Washington and Bono. You know, he's some kind of global celebrity.
He thinks it's Winston Churchill. Well sure, yeah, I mean,
but he thinks that he's Churchill was never disrespectful to
FDR in public. I can I can assure you of that,
having read multiple Churchill biographies, he was never like, look, buddy,
(22:59):
you know, we all the shots here. He was like,
please give us the stuff we need so that we
can actually keep this fight going. So Clay it it
showed I think some aspects of this that have been
hidden from the public largely, which is that there is
an intransigence to the Lelenski side of this, or rather
to the Ukrainian regime, the democracy that doesn't have elections
(23:23):
right now. I know they're not allowed to under their
constitution or whatever, but isn't that interesting, right So there's
there's a huge incentive for Zelenski to continue to be
pushing for exactly what he wants because he doesn't have
to worry about the will of the people. During this
war we held, as we talked about, the United States
held election really at a peak of the Civil War.
(23:46):
It wasn't just during the Civil War. It was win
or lose time, and we still held an election at
Abraham Lincoln won that re election.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And he ran against the former head of the Union Army,
George McClellan. I mean, it's an extraordinary story. The eighteen
sixty four presidential election, which again goes to the historical
a literacy, that illiteracy that exists in.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
This country that people don't know that. I mean, I
think that Lincoln knew that he could thank Grant and
Sherman for his reelection Without those two guys, I don't
think he gets meaning their their victories on the battlefield.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I don't Sherman taking Atlanta delivered the White House to
Lincoln for a second term.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean, and Grant having Sherman in place and
supporting him as his you know, immediate inferior general. I think. Anyway,
not to get too into the Civil War part of this,
but it is it is interesting how how that played out.
But here's what happens. Zelenski came out of this and
it was not good.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
CNN's Harry Enton. Uh, they're there, their bootleg Ryan Gerdusky,
if you will, their numbers. Guy here he is saying
that for Zolenski, the numbers in the America, in the
eyes of the American people, not looking good. This is
cut eighteen.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Obviously, if you would expect changes among the public feelings
towards Ukraine, feelings towards Zelensky have changed. Also dramatically. Look
at this confidence Zelenski will do the right thing when
it comes to world affairs. Back in twenty twenty two,
it was the clear majority, seventy two percent through the floor,
through the floor. By twenty twenty four, just forty eight
(25:18):
percent of Americans say that they're confident that Zelensky will
do the right thing when it comes to world affairs,
and GOP confidence has also plummeted dramatically. Now the clear
majority of Republicans are not confident, not confident that Zelensky
will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now that's a big shift in a very short period
of time. Play. I think that a lot of the
propaganda around both Trump's bizarre or you know, fealty to
Russia and Zolensky as this beyond reproach, heroic leader. I
think there was a big shift in perception that occurred
(25:59):
to this meeting. Why is Zelenski trying to litigate the
terms of a cease fire with the press there? He
should The truth is that when he's sitting there with
the press there, and he's talking to Trump and Dvance,
it should be thank you, thank you so much, guys.
We would you know. And also it's Zelenzi got a
little surly when Trump said without us, you wouldn't you know,
(26:20):
you would have been able to continue. He's like, he's like,
I heard the same thing from Putin. I heard the
same thing from Brush. It's like, buddy, slow your role here, okay,
without America, and we're doing a lot of stuff without
getting too deep into this that people don't even know about,
to help these guys. All right, we have helped Ukraine,
not just with hundreds of billions and with a lot
of munitions, but with training, with intelligent support. We're doing
(26:43):
all kinds of stuff to keep them in this fight.
You don't turn around and bite the hand that feeds
you here the way that he did. But I just
think that he's a little bit delusional, and I think
he's in a bad spot and doesn't want to admit it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Here's a provocative question for you, Buck, and I'll answer
it beforehand so I get blown up by this when
they clip it. Who do you trust more, Vladimir Putin
or the media that covered alleged Russia collusion in twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I'll give you my answer I
trust Putin more. I think that Putin was accurate. Yes,
(27:20):
did they buy a couple one hundred thousand dollars maybe
of Facebook ads, but the idea that somehow he rigged
the twenty sixteen election, which is what was alleged by
the New York Times, by the Washington Post. They gave
themselves all Pulitzers for it, the made up Steele dossier,
Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
All of it was a lie.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And so if you're Trump and you're looking at this
conflict now between Ukraine and Russia, I think Trump will.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I'm not saying he thinks Vladimir Putin's a great guy.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I'm not saying that I want to go to dinner
and like hang out with Putin, But I think Putin
was more honest about what he did during the twenty
sixteen election. Then the American media was about the way
that they covered Putin in the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I just want to address this. One of our VIPs,
Troy in Michigan, says he disagrees with me about Zelensky's
attire because Arab leaders don't wear suits at the White House.
If you're wearing the traditional garb that you would wear
at a press conference as a leader of your own country.
That's different from showing up in a tracksuit. Zelenski doesn't know.
(28:31):
Zelenski in tracksuit is not like the traditional formal attire
of the Ukrainian people. He just decides that because he's
a wartime or a wartime leader wartime president, he's gonna
address this way. Look, Trump obviously didn't like it, so
it doesn't really even matter what the protocol is. He
should know enough about Trump to know that Trump didn't
(28:52):
want him showing up the way that he did. So
that's misstep number one. Whether someone agrees with it or
not doesn't really matter, because Zelenski should be able to
entiicipate that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, and if you do do that, because there are
photos out there of Winston Churchill basically showing up in
non suit attire to meet with FDR, I think if
you are, your idea is we're at war, so I'm
gonna wear a war type uniform, which I think is
what Zolensky would argue. Then, to your point earlier, Churchhill
(29:22):
worked as hard as he could to express his respect, admiration,
and deep gratitude for the support of the American people
and fought as hard as he could to get them
to get in on his side with the war. Remember,
we probably don't get into World War two if the
Japanese don't make the decision to attack us in Pearl Harbor.
(29:43):
I mean, I don't know exactly how the history of
the world plays out if that attack doesn't happen. But
if you know, and there is word that Trump said, Hey,
it would be appreciated if Zolensky would dressed in a
suit as a Western leader typically would. If you know
that you're doing something to provoke the eyre based on
the wardrobe at you start. If you are smart guy,
(30:06):
you probably don't feud with him. Other thing that you
pointed out, Buck, and I went back and I listened
to most of that entire press conference too. That was
the final question. They actually said, last question. If you
go back and listen to it, Zelinsky knew, Hey, I
basically made it through the whole public media availability. Just
(30:28):
don't blow it up at the very end, and you
would have gotten your signed mineral rights agreement. I think, Buck,
I really do. I don't think he wants a cease fire.
I don't think he wants peace.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I just don't then this forces us to look at well, then,
what if that were true? What does he want right now?
He says he wants to cease fire with all kinds
of guarant with all kinds of guarantees. I would note
that he says, well, we can't trust a ceasefire with Putin.
He needs an additional guarantee beyond that. But the truth
is that you know anal guarantees in this world. Period. Okay,
(31:03):
you make the best deal you can with the realities
you have them. You hope there are some enforcement mechanisms,
there are some carrots and sticks, and you go forward
with that. It's not going to be perfect. But here's
the fundamentally the problem. This is a war that he
can't win. There's no future in which he can win
this war and expel Russian, the Russian Federation, the Russian
forces from the territory of Ukraine. So it has to
(31:26):
be a negotiated settlement. Everybody agrees about that. The only
disagreement so far, at least that's what we're led to believe,
is what are the terms of the negotiated settlement? You
don't play games with the only arbiter that you really
have in this process who has the kind of leverage
to get something done, which is Donald Trump. You don't
play games with them in front of the press on
(31:47):
his home turf and is in the White House in
your foreign language. Yeah, well you know. I mean, he
speaks English well enough to know what was going on there.
But I still think I think that it was it
was a mess from the perspective of what the Ukrainian
people are trying to achieve and what would be best
for them. And I think the people that are so
opposed to this, what is their plan exactly? They have
(32:09):
All Biden did was sit around and send taxpayer dollars
to Ukraine with no accountability whatsoever for them to be
fighting a war that's never going that doesn't seem like
it's going to end until they've killed off every single
military age and able bodied man in Ukraine. I mean,
that's where this is heading.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
To be fair, at least in the first couple of years,
you could argue there was an uncertainty about where it
might go, even if the overall favoritism of the odds
favored Russia all along. Now there is no argument. I
haven't heard a single person say, Hey, Ukraine is going
to kick Russia out of the territory they invaded and
restore their pre twenty twenty two border. So if you
(32:49):
know that that's impossible, and I think everybody does, why
are you still allowing tens of thousands of people to die?
It feels like everyone, including seventy eight percent of Americans,
according to the most recent c and MPU, support a
ceasefire and into the war. Look talking about a ceasefire
and into a war. Situation in the Middle East is
still tumultuous. A man was killed four others wounded in
(33:10):
a stabbing attack at a transit up in northern Israel.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Today.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Hamas praised the attack, stop short of claiming responsibility. Israeli's
won a normal life again, but with the ceasefire on
shaky ground, Israeli citizens are justifiably apprehensive and all this
has an impact on the emotional well being of the population.
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Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show. I mentioned
I didn't watch the Oscars. I barely saw any of
the movies that were nominated for anything. I'm betting Buck
you did not watch the Oscars either, But I did
see this come across my Twitter timeline during the Oscars
last night, and it's pretty awesome. Kiaren Colkin, who is
(35:02):
the brother of Macaulay Culkin, was a star in the
show Succession most recently and I believe won an award
last night. An Oscar got up on the stage and
he had a message for his wife, who made a
bet that she probably didn't expect to get cash this quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
After the show, we're walking through a parking lot. She's
holding the Emmy. We're trying to find her car. Emily,
you were there, so your witness, and she goes, oh god,
I did say that. I guess I owe you a
third kid. And I turned to her and I said
maybe I want four, and she turned me. I swear
to God, this habitage just over a year ago. She said,
I will give you four when you win an Oscar.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
I held my.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Hand out, she took it, and I have now brought
it up once until just now. You remember that, Honey,
you do okay? Then I just have this to say
to you, Jazz, love of my life, give little faith,
no pressure.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I love you.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I'm really sorry I did this again. And let's get
cracking on those kids. What do you saying?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
So this is great, Buck, You've got your first coming soon.
He won a third kid with his wife. Betting he
would win an Emmy, she said, okay, I'll give you
four if you win an Oscar. Back to back years,
he won Best Supporting Actor last night. I thought that
was pretty great.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
It was indeed more a coming tomorrow everybody
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