July 12, 2024 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have a fantastic guest to start us off today,
President Trump himself is joining us. Mister President, I appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So let's start with how you think it wents. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway because the
New York Times a lot of others seem like they
thought it could be the end, but doesn't really seem
like the end.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelenski and
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as Vladimir Putin. That was not good. That was unpardonable.
You can't do that. You know, there are things you
can do and things you can't do. That was a
bad one. So he introduced him as Putin, and then
I guess somebody started screaming at him, and he corrected
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as much as you can. You know that doesn't get
corrected very easily. So he went in there with the yips.
I think he went into the press conference with the
yips because, frankly, if he were Winston Churchill, who was
not bad at press conferences, by the way, if he
were Winston Churchill, his press conference was going to work
out too well because of what happened previous.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh. I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:02):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you? Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get intermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch. You know, the story does a party,
you feel like, yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
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him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
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but I thought standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go less. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
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he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
(03:30):
I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
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could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar, these makeups. Least,
that was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier and was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
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it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster. Now,
the debate was a disaster for him, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate, was
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh,
do the television networks look forward to that one.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
But so you're willing to give him a rematch, because
I actually think that's kind of you given the fact
that you knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike
Tyson didn't immediately say okay, get in a ring against Sphinx.
I kind of feel like he was flat on the
you know, on the canvas, looking up at you. But
that seems kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I think we owe it maybe to the public
to do it. You know, I think you have an
obligation to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee
and you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to
an extent, we owe it to the public to do it,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Rematch.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I know. Actually I actually was suggesting yesterday maybe you'll
have a first of this that we go in together,
because I am cognitively great, perfect and I've had tests.
I do it routine, you know, whatever I do. I
just did a physical, by the way, and I came
out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon or whatever I
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have to announce. But but I suggest that we go
in together and do a cognitive test. We'll do cognitive tests.
We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I would do whatever they want. I'd do the test.
I'd do mental acuity tests with him. I would do
whatever whatever it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests,
they have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I
actually feel that anybody running from not age wise. I
mean I've spoken to, I deal with people that are
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much older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is he the matchup you want on President Trump? This
is this is important.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Is he the matchup you want in terms of who
is going to be on the ballot for the Democrats
at the top of this fall because there's reporting that
your team is very pleased that it looks like he's
going to stay in. It's not going to be common
law and there's not going to be some third option
switch at the convention.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic.
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine. And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
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I going to It's going to be somebody else. I
think that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:37):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
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Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things,
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
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I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
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right now?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Clony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, A
third rate movie actor. He was a television actor and
never made really a good movie, and so he's sort
of third rate. He goes as a movie actor at
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Clark Gable. He's not and you know, but I thought
it was I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty.
And Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know
that because that's been for a long time. You remember,
you guys, remember your perfect age for us. But Hillary
Obama wanted Hillary, not Biden. And Biden never forgot that
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they hate each other. You remember when I said that
Bush and Marco had a lot of problems together, and
they said, no, no, no, we get along, we get along.
I said, no, you don't get along. You don't get along.
In two debates in and by the way, Marco is
doing very well, I will tell you, But two debates
in they started really going at it. I said, I
told you. And if you remember the famous debates, we
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had those great debates, the Republican debates, actually among the
greatest ever. But I said, I told you when they'd
started going at it, Well, these two hate each other.
There's no question about that. And why wouldn't Why wouldn't
Biden hate because you know, he really passed in a
more prime time period. But I don't want to again,
(10:24):
I don't want to stress age because so many people
I know, so many people who are far older than Biden,
who were so so amazing. I speak with Rupert Murdoch
a lot. I think Ruper's ninety four and ninety five,
that's right, so he's substantially older. He's like thirteen years
older than Biden. He's one hundred percent sharp. He's just
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still attack.
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Speaker 1 (11:59):
Are you already point where you're willing to say or
that you feel strongly that a majority of the American
people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses and
abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
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that that hasn't worked. And if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all. You know.
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
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the head of Hungary, Victor Roban, and very strong guy.
He was I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our resigures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
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procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
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of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting so different than yours. Ours is much more secure.
And I wasn't looking for that answer. That's just any
and I had a smile to myself. And he's right,
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many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have,
there's no security. They are very little. We're like a
third world in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, das and attorney generals,
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and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice president there, you've
done a good job I think of creating a lot
of different drama associated with who the vice president is
going to be. Can you tell us have you made
up your mind on your pick yet? And second part
of that, have you decided on how the vice president
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is going to be announced?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
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Tuesday or Wednesday. Actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
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or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of the Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people and
they're really good. I got to know them very well. Well,
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
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I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So it's still open though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct you know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
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He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television.
He was incredible. JD has been great. You have a
man named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota.
And you know it's a state it's very very pressed.
It was very successful and he's done a good job there.
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You have some terrific people.
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to close us out here to tell everybody all across
the country who's listening, millions of people who are feeling
optimistic but also don't want to get ahead of themselves,
how should they be feeling As we're going into the
absolute peak of this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
be doing a large deportation. We have notes you they're prisoners,
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their mental institution, people from mental institutions, and you can
look all over the world where they've done this. They're
moving them into our country. They're doing it purposely the
governments of those countries, many countries, not just South America,
and their crime rates are the way down. Venezuela, their
crime rate is down by seventy two percent. Wouldn't we
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be nice if we had a crime rate that went
our crime rates? Our crime rates are going up because
we're taking all these prisoners and all these people from
other countries. But you take a look at El Salvador,
take a look at these countries. Their crime rates are
way down because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers,
and they're emptying out their jails into our country. How
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stupid can we be? But I'd say, with everything, and
it's so, that's a tremendous problem that we have that
we shouldn't have had. You know, we wouldn't have had
that problem, We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine.
Think about it. You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine.
There's no way he would have done it. A good
relationship with both of them, you would have it wouldn't
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have happened. You wouldn't have had China looking very violently
at Taiwan. I don't see what's going to happen there.
If it could happen, they certainly, they certainly are threatening
right now. But you wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't
have inflation. You wouldn't have had the attack on Israel.
That would have never happened. Aren had no money, They
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were broke with sanctions, they were literally broke. There was
no terror. I had no terror during my administration. We
had no terror attacks. And now it's like terrible what's happening,
and all over the world. The whole world is exploding.
And Victor Orban actually said, the only thing you can
do is get Trump backed. He kept everything. I kept
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things in order. You wouldn't have had all of these.
Every one of these events, including inflation, you wouldn't have
had that was caused by stupid energy policies of this administration.
It was caused by energy, the cost of energy. So
we're going to make our grade again. We're going to
have a big, a really big week and I think
it's going to be very inspiring. I hope so. And
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we have to get back to business. We have to
get back to running the country the way it should be.
We have to stop the crime our cities are. In
Chicago last week, one hundred and seventeen people were shot
and seventeen died. That's a war zone. That's worse than
most war zones. You don't have that happening. That's not
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happening in Afghanistan. That's not happening in other places that
you think of being a violent country. Chicago, think of it.
One hundred and seventeen people were shot over the weekend.
Now it was a big weekend, like what we're adding
an extra day. Seventeen died.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Last question for you, mister President, I love the golf challenge.
Buck has never watched a golf match on television. He
said he would watch you play against Biden. Do you
and I love the twenty stroke challenge? He challenged you. First,
what do you think Biden would actually shoot if he
had to count every hole? And do you think he
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would even be able to finish eighteen holes? Or do
you think they would have to stop it and take
him off because he's not healthy enough to even finish
eighteen holes. How do you think the round would.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Go so without Bragg? And I'm a very good golfer.
You know. I've won club championships, many, many, many club championships,
and I win them all the time. I still win them.
I play just as good now as I did twenty
years ago. That's a good sign. That's a good physical
and cognitive test, because golf is mental also, right, But
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I've won many club championships and he cannot win a
club championship. Nor can he break a hundred. There's no
way he breaks a hundred. I've seen his swing. I've
never seen him play, but I've seen his swing, and
I've spoken to people that are near to him, and
he's a terrible golfer. But he's all talk. You have
to understand he is. When pilots go to the White House,
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they say, he says, oh, I used to fly planes.
When truckers go to the White House, he said, oh,
I drove a truck. Everything that anybody goes there. Well,
he made the challenge to the wrong guy in golf.
I mean, I've offered him. I give him twenty strix
tennis side, I said, and I'll give him million dollars
to his charity. But they turned me down. They said no. Now,
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if he was a six handicap, which he's not, he
says six point two because he wants to be nice
and accurate. I don't believe he could break one hundred
and fifty. I've watched his swing. I don't believe. And
I break seventy a lot, but I shoot in the
low seventies and mid seventies. And that's what you have
to do. You know, when you play, when you win
club championships, you're playing against scratch golfers, and I often
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beat them. I mean this year I won three, and
I don't get to play very much relative to a
lot of these guys. They live on the of course.
So you know, he makes a challenge. He's all talk
and no action, a nasty guy. And remember he weaponized
government against me, and that's a very bad precedent to say,
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very very bad, very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here in this election, and
so many people here are thinking about you, supporting you
and praying for you as you do. So thank you
so much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Thank you, and you have a great show and I
appreciate it and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
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of reactions pouring in, lots of media coverage of the
interview with Trump. We certainly appreciate him coming on with
us today in advance of Monday when we are going
to be live in Milwaukee Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Friday
for the RNC. Who knows what might happen. Should be
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I want to we had Trump today, but it's not
uncommon we have zero guests on for a day. And
you may be used to seeing both Buck and me
on this program, but a lot of people are going
to be on live with us, from the Speaker of
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the House, a lot of senators, probably some governors, many
different media figures that you're gonna know and enjoy hearing from.
But also maybe you want to see the video. You
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and would encourage you to check it out at Clayanbuck
dot com Okay, we have mentioned for some time, I
think for years now on this program, we have been saying,
there is no job that Joe Biden could do anywhere
that any of you work. There's nothing that Joe Biden
could do here at Clay and Buck, There's nothing that
he could do at OutKick, There's nothing that he could
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do at media companies. An interesting situation where there is
virtually no way for Joe Biden to do any job
in America except for he's auditioning right now for the
single most important job in all of America. And we've
been telling you that for a while. It's amazing how
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suddenly everybody else is starting to sound a lot like us,
even when they are theoretically left wing comedians. Here's John
Stewart reacting to that fact that he now is making
part of his show. Listen.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I'll be perfectly honest with you. I don't know of
a job interview that you could have gone on and
delivered the performance that was delivered by Joe Biden and
gotten a job. And I'm not talking about the presidency.
I'm talking about like cash here at home, deep, like
a job that you would not think. Okay, that is
the hardest job in the entire world.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
There you go. We said it for probably a couple
of years now. We used to even I gave him
credit buck. You remember, I said, oh, we can do Walmart, Greeter,
And then you came back and you're like, he couldn't
do Wall. He couldn't stand up for that long. And
I had to take that back. I don't think there's
a job he could do in America, but I thought
this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Also though, whether it's the president or any number of
these very very powerful jobs and government, it's hard to
get the job. But this thing of the hardest job
in the world. Please, all right, everyone needs to calm
down a little bit. Look at some of the people
that have done the job of president. There are much
harder jobs out there. Okay, I'm just gonna just speak
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in the truth here. Look at some of the people
who have been like heads of agencies. We're talking about
Pete bouda judge before. Like, we need to calm down
with this, like, oh my gosh, the hardest job in
the world. It can't be the hardest job in the
world because Joe Biden can't do any other job, and
yet he's the president.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know what I mean, Well, that's the scary part.
And you're right that that's the pitch we're gonna get soon, Buck,
which is you're really voting for the team if Biden's
not gone to that's their argument.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's what they have, that's what they're going to have
to say, and I do think that that will be
for a lot of people, that'll be pretty compelling. I
think they'll go along with it. But it's it's remarkable
that we've built up this notion of the president as
this role that is I honestly, I mean, I think
there's a lot to back this up. It's a much
longer conversation, but far more than the founders intended. I mean,
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the powers of the presidency have grown, I think dramatically,
And that's a whole other conversation. But we also think
of the president as the leader of the free world
and the most powerful man on earth, and he carries
a nuclear football and all this stuff, and when you
add it all in, it's like, well, he actually has
a lot of staff and he gets ferried around and
it's you know, it's not that bad. There's much harder jobs,
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you know what I'm saying. I mean, I could find
you a prison in Bulgaria where you would much less
rather be a prison guard, and it's much harder than
being president of the United States. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, Bulgaria,
any country.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But I also it also raises the question, and this
is the sports fan in me. One of my favorite stats,
because I think you can apply it to all facets
of life, is wins over replacement. In other words, you
get a job, how much better are you than the
average person would be at that job. So you can
apply it whether you're selling cars, whether you're working at
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a gas station, or whether you're the president of the
United States. What is the variation of overall quality performance
in terms of what a president can accomplish from the
absolute apex let's say Abraham Lincoln to the absolute nator,
let's say James Buchanan, back to back. I just got
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through reading the great Eric Larson book about the start
of the Civil War. James Buchanan just lets everything happen,
or you can say Joe Biden compared to let's say
Ronald Reagan. How much difference is there in the overall performance?
I do think it's still fairly substantial. In the presidency, right,
that there is because the decisions the more you make.
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If you make good decisions, they start to stack up
and lead to a good result. You make bad decisions,
they lead to the opposite place. Yeah, I don't look.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
The presidency has changed also dramatically, even the last hundred years.
And you know, you think about in the in the
early days in d C or earlier days in DC, right,
I mean Calvin Coolidge when he was well, he was
Harding's VP at the time, he was living what's that
hotel you like in DC?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He was living Willard. Willard is the best place. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But but you know, he's walking around here. I think
he had one bodyguard basically.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And you know, there.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Used to be this thing of like the president was
a job that you did. And you know, now we
think of the president almost as some kind of superhero,
I think because of the media fixation with it and
everything else. But I mean, Joe Biden is a dunce
and he's been running the country theoretically for the last
four years. So I do think we should factor this
into the calculations. I do think it's possible to be
president and be a moron because we've had it happen.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Unfortunately, you're right, if one of the coolest you got
me thinking about the Willard one of the coolest stories
I give credit over the past few years. Obviously, Trump
being charged with a crime was utterly ridiculous in crimes,
the ninety one felonies. But they did go back. Do
you know the first president to ever be arrested? Did
you see this story? They managed to track it down
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Ulysses S. Grant for riding horses too rapidly down Pennsylvania
Avenue while he was president of the United States. He
was stopped and arrested. Do you talk about lack of
security detail? Obviously, former general, he liked to race horses.
He was exceeding I guess there's a horse speed limit
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back in the day on Pennsylvania Avenue and he was
arrested by a local DC cop.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
How could you assess the speed? Was it just I
thought you were? It was a great question geometers. Yeah,
it's a good question. But he was arrested. They went
back and they found the evidence of it. He had
to pay a fine.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
He accompanied the police officer to the jail and posted bail,
and it was, you know, a fine The reason why
I thought that was interesting was that a lot of
people were saying, oh, Trump was the first person to
ever be arrested. They went back and said, actually it
was Grant for riding horses too fast.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Calvin Coolidge was stopped by a police line trying to
get back into that hotel and he said, I need
to get in there, and they said. He said, I'm
the vice president, and the guy said of the hotel,
and he had to look at him and say, no,
of the United States at the Willard.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The Willard is cool if you're ever in the lobby.
They have all of the old copies of Abraham Lincoln's
bill when he stayed at that hotel waiting to be
inaugurated as president of the United States. You can see
he was drinking bourbon. You can see what he was
ordering to eat. It is pretty awesome that they still
have the bill that Lincoln ran up.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, sometimes somehow the Republic has gone from the Willard
and keeping the bill of sale. Hell to Hunter Biden's laptop.
Have a great weekend, everybody,
Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have a fantastic guest to start us off today,
President Trump himself is joining us. Mister President, I appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So let's start with how you think it wents. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway because the
New York Times a lot of others seem like they
thought it could be the end, but doesn't really seem
like the end.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelenski and
(01:00):
as Vladimir Putin. That was not good. That was unpardonable.
You can't do that. You know, there are things you
can do and things you can't do. That was a
bad one. So he introduced him as Putin, and then
I guess somebody started screaming at him, and he corrected
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as much as you can. You know that doesn't get
corrected very easily. So he went in there with the yips.
I think he went into the press conference with the
yips because, frankly, if he were Winston Churchill, who was
not bad at press conferences, by the way, if he
were Winston Churchill, his press conference was going to work
out too well because of what happened previous.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh. I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:02):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you? Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get intermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch. You know, the story does a party,
you feel like, yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
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him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
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but I thought standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go less. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
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he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
(03:30):
I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
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could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar, these makeups. Least,
that was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier and was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
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it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster. Now,
the debate was a disaster for him, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate, was
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh,
do the television networks look forward to that one.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
But so you're willing to give him a rematch, because
I actually think that's kind of you given the fact
that you knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike
Tyson didn't immediately say okay, get in a ring against Sphinx.
I kind of feel like he was flat on the
you know, on the canvas, looking up at you. But
that seems kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I think we owe it maybe to the public
to do it. You know, I think you have an
obligation to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee
and you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to
an extent, we owe it to the public to do it,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Rematch.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I know. Actually I actually was suggesting yesterday maybe you'll
have a first of this that we go in together,
because I am cognitively great, perfect and I've had tests.
I do it routine, you know, whatever I do. I
just did a physical, by the way, and I came
out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon or whatever I
(05:40):
have to announce. But but I suggest that we go
in together and do a cognitive test. We'll do cognitive tests.
We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I would do whatever they want. I'd do the test.
I'd do mental acuity tests with him. I would do
whatever whatever it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests,
they have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I
actually feel that anybody running from not age wise. I
mean I've spoken to, I deal with people that are
(06:21):
much older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is he the matchup you want on President Trump? This
is this is important.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Is he the matchup you want in terms of who
is going to be on the ballot for the Democrats
at the top of this fall because there's reporting that
your team is very pleased that it looks like he's
going to stay in. It's not going to be common
law and there's not going to be some third option
switch at the convention.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic.
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine. And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
(07:15):
I going to It's going to be somebody else. I
think that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:37):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
(07:57):
Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things,
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
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I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
(08:50):
right now?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Clony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, A
third rate movie actor. He was a television actor and
never made really a good movie, and so he's sort
of third rate. He goes as a movie actor at
(09:14):
Clark Gable. He's not and you know, but I thought
it was I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty.
And Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know
that because that's been for a long time. You remember,
you guys, remember your perfect age for us. But Hillary
Obama wanted Hillary, not Biden. And Biden never forgot that
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they hate each other. You remember when I said that
Bush and Marco had a lot of problems together, and
they said, no, no, no, we get along, we get along.
I said, no, you don't get along. You don't get along.
In two debates in and by the way, Marco is
doing very well, I will tell you, But two debates
in they started really going at it. I said, I
told you. And if you remember the famous debates, we
(10:02):
had those great debates, the Republican debates, actually among the
greatest ever. But I said, I told you when they'd
started going at it, Well, these two hate each other.
There's no question about that. And why wouldn't Why wouldn't
Biden hate because you know, he really passed in a
more prime time period. But I don't want to again,
(10:24):
I don't want to stress age because so many people
I know, so many people who are far older than Biden,
who were so so amazing. I speak with Rupert Murdoch
a lot. I think Ruper's ninety four and ninety five,
that's right, so he's substantially older. He's like thirteen years
older than Biden. He's one hundred percent sharp. He's just
(10:48):
still attack.
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Speaker 1 (11:59):
Are you already point where you're willing to say or
that you feel strongly that a majority of the American
people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses and
abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
(12:19):
that that hasn't worked. And if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all. You know.
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
(12:44):
the head of Hungary, Victor Roban, and very strong guy.
He was I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our resigures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
(13:05):
procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
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of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting so different than yours. Ours is much more secure.
And I wasn't looking for that answer. That's just any
and I had a smile to myself. And he's right,
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many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have,
there's no security. They are very little. We're like a
third world in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, das and attorney generals,
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and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice president there, you've
done a good job I think of creating a lot
of different drama associated with who the vice president is
going to be. Can you tell us have you made
up your mind on your pick yet? And second part
of that, have you decided on how the vice president
(14:43):
is going to be announced?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
(15:07):
Tuesday or Wednesday. Actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
(15:28):
or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of the Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people and
they're really good. I got to know them very well. Well,
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
(16:09):
I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So it's still open though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct you know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
(16:43):
He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television.
He was incredible. JD has been great. You have a
man named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota.
And you know it's a state it's very very pressed.
It was very successful and he's done a good job there.
(17:04):
You have some terrific people.
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just want to give you a chance of President Trump
to close us out here to tell everybody all across
the country who's listening, millions of people who are feeling
optimistic but also don't want to get ahead of themselves,
how should they be feeling As we're going into the
absolute peak of this election cycle.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
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(19:21):
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we're taking all these prisoners and all these people from
other countries. But you take a look at El Salvador,
take a look at these countries. Their crime rates are
way down because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers,
and they're emptying out their jails into our country. How
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stupid can we be? But I'd say, with everything, and
it's so, that's a tremendous problem that we have that
we shouldn't have had. You know, we wouldn't have had
that problem, We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine.
Think about it. You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine.
There's no way he would have done it. A good
relationship with both of them, you would have it wouldn't
(20:02):
have happened. You wouldn't have had China looking very violently
at Taiwan. I don't see what's going to happen there.
If it could happen, they certainly, they certainly are threatening
right now. But you wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't
have inflation. You wouldn't have had the attack on Israel.
That would have never happened. Aren had no money, They
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were broke with sanctions, they were literally broke. There was
no terror. I had no terror during my administration. We
had no terror attacks. And now it's like terrible what's happening,
and all over the world. The whole world is exploding.
And Victor Orban actually said, the only thing you can
do is get Trump backed. He kept everything. I kept
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things in order. You wouldn't have had all of these.
Every one of these events, including inflation, you wouldn't have
had that was caused by stupid energy policies of this administration.
It was caused by energy, the cost of energy. So
we're going to make our grade again. We're going to
have a big, a really big week and I think
it's going to be very inspiring. I hope so. And
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we have to get back to business. We have to
get back to running the country the way it should be.
We have to stop the crime our cities are. In
Chicago last week, one hundred and seventeen people were shot
and seventeen died. That's a war zone. That's worse than
most war zones. You don't have that happening. That's not
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happening in Afghanistan. That's not happening in other places that
you think of being a violent country. Chicago, think of it.
One hundred and seventeen people were shot over the weekend.
Now it was a big weekend, like what we're adding
an extra day. Seventeen died.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Last question for you, mister President, I love the golf challenge.
Buck has never watched a golf match on television. He
said he would watch you play against Biden. Do you
and I love the twenty stroke challenge? He challenged you. First,
what do you think Biden would actually shoot if he
had to count every hole? And do you think he
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would even be able to finish eighteen holes? Or do
you think they would have to stop it and take
him off because he's not healthy enough to even finish
eighteen holes. How do you think the round would.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Go so without Bragg? And I'm a very good golfer.
You know. I've won club championships, many, many, many club championships,
and I win them all the time. I still win them.
I play just as good now as I did twenty
years ago. That's a good sign. That's a good physical
and cognitive test, because golf is mental also, right, But
(22:44):
I've won many club championships and he cannot win a
club championship. Nor can he break a hundred. There's no
way he breaks a hundred. I've seen his swing. I've
never seen him play, but I've seen his swing, and
I've spoken to people that are near to him, and
he's a terrible golfer. But he's all talk. You have
to understand he is. When pilots go to the White House,
(23:07):
they say, he says, oh, I used to fly planes.
When truckers go to the White House, he said, oh,
I drove a truck. Everything that anybody goes there. Well,
he made the challenge to the wrong guy in golf.
I mean, I've offered him. I give him twenty strix
tennis side, I said, and I'll give him million dollars
to his charity. But they turned me down. They said no. Now,
(23:29):
if he was a six handicap, which he's not, he
says six point two because he wants to be nice
and accurate. I don't believe he could break one hundred
and fifty. I've watched his swing. I don't believe. And
I break seventy a lot, but I shoot in the
low seventies and mid seventies. And that's what you have
to do. You know, when you play, when you win
club championships, you're playing against scratch golfers, and I often
(23:52):
beat them. I mean this year I won three, and
I don't get to play very much relative to a
lot of these guys. They live on the of course.
So you know, he makes a challenge. He's all talk
and no action, a nasty guy. And remember he weaponized
government against me, and that's a very bad precedent to say,
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very very bad, very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here in this election, and
so many people here are thinking about you, supporting you
and praying for you as you do. So thank you
so much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Thank you, and you have a great show and I
appreciate it and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 3 (26:22):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot
of reactions pouring in, lots of media coverage of the
interview with Trump. We certainly appreciate him coming on with
us today in advance of Monday when we are going
to be live in Milwaukee Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Friday
for the RNC. Who knows what might happen. Should be
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a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It will be a lot of fun here else is
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this is like, what are you like like Enrique Glaciation,
but get.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
A little bit of navel, might have a nipple showing.
If you're watching on the video, you never know what
you're gonna get going on. I've got Martha McCollum on
Fox News at three o'clock Eastern as soon as we finished,
so I had to change shirts. I will say, by
the way, on the VIP front. This is a really
cool opportunity. It's gonna be hectic, it's gonna be a
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bit wacky, different than normal. We're gonna have a ton
of guests on and you know a lot of times
I want to we had Trump today, but it's not
uncommon we have zero guests on for a day. And
you may be used to seeing both Buck and me
on this program, but a lot of people are going
to be on live with us, from the Speaker of
(27:54):
the House, a lot of senators, probably some governors, many
different media figures that you're gonna know and enjoy hearing from.
But also maybe you want to see the video. You
have a great stage they have built. iHeart has a
great set for us on this radio row at the RNC.
(28:16):
I think it will look fantastic. Certainly you'll be able
to see a picture of a video segment here and
there on social media, But if you would like, no
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to have a three hour live video stream that you
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do think the Clay and Buck VIP is very cool
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and would encourage you to check it out at Clayanbuck
dot com Okay, we have mentioned for some time, I
think for years now on this program, we have been saying,
there is no job that Joe Biden could do anywhere
that any of you work. There's nothing that Joe Biden
could do here at Clay and Buck, There's nothing that
he could do at OutKick, There's nothing that he could
(28:58):
do at media companies. An interesting situation where there is
virtually no way for Joe Biden to do any job
in America except for he's auditioning right now for the
single most important job in all of America. And we've
been telling you that for a while. It's amazing how
(29:18):
suddenly everybody else is starting to sound a lot like us,
even when they are theoretically left wing comedians. Here's John
Stewart reacting to that fact that he now is making
part of his show. Listen.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I'll be perfectly honest with you. I don't know of
a job interview that you could have gone on and
delivered the performance that was delivered by Joe Biden and
gotten a job. And I'm not talking about the presidency.
I'm talking about like cash here at home, deep, like
a job that you would not think. Okay, that is
the hardest job in the entire world.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
There you go. We said it for probably a couple
of years now. We used to even I gave him
credit buck. You remember, I said, oh, we can do Walmart, Greeter,
And then you came back and you're like, he couldn't
do Wall. He couldn't stand up for that long. And
I had to take that back. I don't think there's
a job he could do in America, but I thought
this was interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Also though, whether it's the president or any number of
these very very powerful jobs and government, it's hard to
get the job. But this thing of the hardest job
in the world. Please, all right, everyone needs to calm
down a little bit. Look at some of the people
that have done the job of president. There are much
harder jobs out there. Okay, I'm just gonna just speak
(30:35):
in the truth here. Look at some of the people
who have been like heads of agencies. We're talking about
Pete bouda judge before. Like, we need to calm down
with this, like, oh my gosh, the hardest job in
the world. It can't be the hardest job in the
world because Joe Biden can't do any other job, and
yet he's the president.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know what I mean, Well, that's the scary part.
And you're right that that's the pitch we're gonna get soon, Buck,
which is you're really voting for the team if Biden's
not gone to that's their argument.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's what they have, that's what they're going to have
to say, and I do think that that will be
for a lot of people, that'll be pretty compelling. I
think they'll go along with it. But it's it's remarkable
that we've built up this notion of the president as
this role that is I honestly, I mean, I think
there's a lot to back this up. It's a much
longer conversation, but far more than the founders intended. I mean,
(31:21):
the powers of the presidency have grown, I think dramatically,
And that's a whole other conversation. But we also think
of the president as the leader of the free world
and the most powerful man on earth, and he carries
a nuclear football and all this stuff, and when you
add it all in, it's like, well, he actually has
a lot of staff and he gets ferried around and
it's you know, it's not that bad. There's much harder jobs,
(31:43):
you know what I'm saying. I mean, I could find
you a prison in Bulgaria where you would much less
rather be a prison guard, and it's much harder than
being president of the United States. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, Bulgaria,
any country.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But I also it also raises the question, and this
is the sports fan in me. One of my favorite stats,
because I think you can apply it to all facets
of life, is wins over replacement. In other words, you
get a job, how much better are you than the
average person would be at that job. So you can
apply it whether you're selling cars, whether you're working at
(32:16):
a gas station, or whether you're the president of the
United States. What is the variation of overall quality performance
in terms of what a president can accomplish from the
absolute apex let's say Abraham Lincoln to the absolute nator,
let's say James Buchanan, back to back. I just got
(32:37):
through reading the great Eric Larson book about the start
of the Civil War. James Buchanan just lets everything happen,
or you can say Joe Biden compared to let's say
Ronald Reagan. How much difference is there in the overall performance?
I do think it's still fairly substantial. In the presidency, right,
that there is because the decisions the more you make.
(33:00):
If you make good decisions, they start to stack up
and lead to a good result. You make bad decisions,
they lead to the opposite place. Yeah, I don't look.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
The presidency has changed also dramatically, even the last hundred years.
And you know, you think about in the in the
early days in d C or earlier days in DC, right,
I mean Calvin Coolidge when he was well, he was
Harding's VP at the time, he was living what's that
hotel you like in DC?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He was living Willard. Willard is the best place. I
love it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But but you know, he's walking around here. I think
he had one bodyguard basically.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
And you know, there.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Used to be this thing of like the president was
a job that you did. And you know, now we
think of the president almost as some kind of superhero,
I think because of the media fixation with it and
everything else. But I mean, Joe Biden is a dunce
and he's been running the country theoretically for the last
four years. So I do think we should factor this
into the calculations. I do think it's possible to be
president and be a moron because we've had it happen.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Unfortunately, you're right, if one of the coolest you got
me thinking about the Willard one of the coolest stories
I give credit over the past few years. Obviously, Trump
being charged with a crime was utterly ridiculous in crimes,
the ninety one felonies. But they did go back. Do
you know the first president to ever be arrested? Did
you see this story? They managed to track it down
(34:20):
Ulysses S. Grant for riding horses too rapidly down Pennsylvania
Avenue while he was president of the United States. He
was stopped and arrested. Do you talk about lack of
security detail? Obviously, former general, he liked to race horses.
He was exceeding I guess there's a horse speed limit
(34:41):
back in the day on Pennsylvania Avenue and he was
arrested by a local DC cop.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
How could you assess the speed? Was it just I
thought you were? It was a great question geometers. Yeah,
it's a good question. But he was arrested. They went
back and they found the evidence of it. He had
to pay a fine.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
He accompanied the police officer to the jail and posted bail,
and it was, you know, a fine The reason why
I thought that was interesting was that a lot of
people were saying, oh, Trump was the first person to
ever be arrested. They went back and said, actually it
was Grant for riding horses too fast.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Calvin Coolidge was stopped by a police line trying to
get back into that hotel and he said, I need
to get in there, and they said. He said, I'm
the vice president, and the guy said of the hotel,
and he had to look at him and say, no,
of the United States at the Willard.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
The Willard is cool if you're ever in the lobby.
They have all of the old copies of Abraham Lincoln's
bill when he stayed at that hotel waiting to be
inaugurated as president of the United States. You can see
he was drinking bourbon. You can see what he was
ordering to eat. It is pretty awesome that they still
have the bill that Lincoln ran up.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, sometimes somehow the Republic has gone from the Willard
and keeping the bill of sale. Hell to Hunter Biden's laptop.
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