October 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers major geopolitical updates, hard-hitting national security analysis, and insider revelations about the FBI. The hour opens with breaking news from the White House as President Donald Trump meets with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to push for a ceasefire and a lasting peace agreement in the Russia-Ukraine war.
Clay and Buck discuss Trump’s role as mediator between Zelensky and Vladimir Putin, comparing the dynamic to high-stakes negotiations and emphasizing Trump’s unique ability to command respect from global adversaries. Zelensky’s remarks underscore the need for security guarantees and bilateral agreements, while Trump signals a potential diplomatic breakthrough.
The conversation shifts to economic leverage in the conflict, with Trump announcing that India will stop buying Russian oil, a move that could cripple Moscow’s ability to skirt sanctions. Clay and Buck explain how India’s previous role as a middleman for Russian energy exports helped Putin evade penalties, and why cutting off this lifeline could reshape the war’s trajectory. Trump also hints at military deterrence, mentioning Tomahawk missiles as part of U.S. support for Ukraine, while stressing his goal to end the war without escalating to direct strikes.
The hour then pivots to Latin America, where Trump delivers a blunt warning to Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro, signaling zero tolerance for narco-terrorism and cartel-linked regimes. Clay and Buck connect this stance to the broader war on drugs and rising public demand for aggressive action against fentanyl trafficking.
In the second half of the hour, former FBI agent Nicole Parker joins the show to discuss her explosive new book, The Two FBIs: The Bravery and Betrayal I Saw in My Time at the Bureau. Parker calls the John Bolton indictment “solid” and praises the current DOJ and FBI leadership under Pam Bondi and Cash Patel for restoring equal enforcement of the law. She details the internal “civil war” between rank-and-file agents (FBI One) and politically weaponized factions (FBI Two), exposing how diversity initiatives and partisan agendas undermined the Bureau’s mission.
Parker recounts shocking stories, including agents refusing to participate in the Mar-a-Lago raid, CNN being tipped off, and the tragic death of her best friend during a child exploitation operation—while SWAT resources were diverted to January 6th cases. Her insights raise critical questions about whether cultural reforms at the FBI can withstand future political swings.
The hour closes with a political twist: Barack Obama releases an endorsement video for Abigail Spanberger in Virginia’s governor race, signaling potential Democratic concerns about turnout and minority voter support. Clay and Buck interpret this as a sign of vulnerability for Democrats and a possible advantage for GOP candidates like Winsome Sears and Jason Miyares.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of claan Buck kicks off now, and just
moments ago there was a conversation underway between Well Trump,
it's actually still going, but we have some of the
latest for you on his discussion with Voladimir Zelenski of
Ukraine and the effort to end the Russia Ukraine War.
(00:22):
Very much underway. Trump's spearheading this. He is not tired
of winning the peace. He is not tired of winning
the peace. He wants to keep going and he is
hoping to get to a ceasefire and a durable peace
agreement between Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We will see if that happens.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Let's work you through some of the latest of what
Trump has said with respect to this meeting. Like I said,
this is just from moments ago, bringing the latest here.
This is cut thirty five hit.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It to be determined, but I would say most likely
it's going to be a double meeting. It'll be a
double meeting, but we will have the President Zelensky in touch.
There's a lot of red blood with the two presidents.
And I'm not speaking out of turn when I say
(01:12):
it's a very difficult situation. You know, we just settled
the war and after thousands of years. I guess people
say anywhere from five hundred to three thousand years. And
I was in rooms as you saw, because you were
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
A lot of you were with me.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Last week with leaders that didn't like each other, but
they were able to get along. These two leaders do
not like each other, and we want to make it
comfortable for everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So one way or.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The other will be involved in threes, but it may
be separated.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's talking about the structure here, clav how these conversations
will be with Zelenski and Putin going forward, so he
may be the full the full on intermediaries what he's saying, right, have.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You ever been to these before? Buck? This is I'm
kind of grinning. You could see it grinning.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Trump as the mediator is Actually if SNL did decent
skits anymore, Trump as the mediator, going back and forth
between Zelenski and Putin would actually be an opportunity for
great comedic skit making possibilities. Because if you've ever been
to a mediation, some of you may have been through divorces.
(02:23):
That's awful. A lot of times they are mediated. I
did mediations back in the day when I was a lawyer.
I've never been the media tour, but basically, if the
two parties are really angry, one party's like, I hope
they die and I hope they you know, every minute
they wake up for the rest of their life, their
first thought is how much they got screwed by me.
(02:45):
You go tell them that, and then the mediator walks back.
It's like, there's a lot of passion, but I think
we've got something here. You know, you just have to
basically totally lie to both sides that are furious and
angry and they just want to vent and they want
everybody to hear their side. So the idea of Trump
as like the you know, really thoughtful okay, okay, and
(03:07):
then he goes back and he just lies, you know,
to try to make the two parties seem like they
aren't as far apart as they actually are in an
effort to ultimately bring them together. Is very comedically entertaining.
But that's where we are. I think Zelensky and Putin
hate each other, as you could well imagine, and Trump
now has to somehow be the bridge of across that
(03:29):
river of discord and animosity. And what it's funny about
it as well, is This is the exact opposite of
what most people in legacy media see Trump as. But
I think he sees himself as someone that can be
a bridge to diplomacy. And so that's where we are.
And that's kind of laughing just thinking about Trump as
the ultimate adult in the room trying to mediate this
(03:50):
very serious disagreement, which is frankly cost hundreds of thousands
of lives on both sides. And he's the adult, and
he's the one who's going to be trying to tamp
down the emotion as opposed to being the emotional, sort
of liking rod as he often is in many other
different political disputes.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I think this also speaks to the way these
two leaders feel about each other and the trust or
lack thereof, that exists between them. This is Zelenski saying
that he wants security guarantees if he's going to meet
with Putin play thirty six.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I think we need to sit and speak. The second point,
we need cease file. Even now you see in the
Middle East it's very difficult to hold his file everywhere
in every war, it's very difficult. We want this, Putin
doesn't want. That's why we need pressurerly, we will speak
with President today what we need. We understand what we
(04:49):
need to put in to negotiation table. And as I
said previously, so we're ready to speak in any kind
of format. Bilateral, trilateral, doesn't matter, matter, just piece. This
is important, and we don't speak about NATA ornate NATA.
For Ukrainians it's very important. Of course, it's our decision,
(05:11):
decisions of allies to decide where we are. But the
most important thing, the most important thing for people in Ukraine,
which are under each day's attacks, to have really strong
security guarantees. NATO is the best, but the weapon is
very important. Allies on our side is very important. And
between us, for us by lateral security guarantees, between me
(05:35):
and President Trump is very important.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm sorry if it's a little hard. I mean, just
mean this a little hard to understand. His accent is
pretty thick, but he's just saying, look, you know what
I meet with Putin, but we got to Basically, he
knows that unless there are other parties involved here who
are willing to drop the hammer on Russia if it
(06:00):
comes to it, whatever Putin signs is not worth the
paper it's printed on.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Correct, And this is where I think Putin this is
my prediction, because he respects Trump and because he actually
on some level fears how Trump might respond to him,
may be willing to enter into some form of agreement.
The problem is Trump is going to leave office in
(06:26):
January of twenty nine. We saw what happened when Trump
left office last time. Putin can play the long game.
He can do the next fifteen years. I don't know
how long he's going to be in power, but I
don't see any immediate threat to Vladimir Putin's reign, and
I am a bit concerned that That's what Hamas is
doing in the Middle East too, is they respect Trump
(06:50):
and they fear Trump. And if we got let's just
say it a President Kamala Harris God forbid, or President
Gavin Newsom or President mayor Pete or President AOC. Do
you think that the people of Hamas are going to
respect those Democrat leaders? Do you think that Vladimir Putin
(07:11):
is going to fear to those Democrat leaders? I would
submit to you that there is tangible evidence they will
not and do not, and so is there a concern.
I think that Zolensky is correct to point this out
that we may get a short term peace agreement, but
as soon as Trump is out of office and there
is a perception of weakness again it's taken advantage of
Let me also point something else out about this book
(07:33):
that I think is super interesting. Remember when they said
that Zelensky and Trump would never be able to interact again.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Wasn't that long ago that we had the couch meeting
with JD.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Vance and everything kind of came undone on the minerals
rights agreement, and everybody just said, oh my goodness, how
is this ever got? And now they're boys, Zelensky showing
up in the black suit, They're sitting there side by side.
The media very often takes Trump as if what position
he adopts in the moment is going to exist forever,
(08:06):
when Trump as a negotiator has shown throughout his entire
political career that he is willing to adjust on a
regular basis. And let me also play this cut. It's
one thing to talk about security guarantees. We talk about
military force, which certainly putin respects we're not going to
put boots on the ground, but economic force is a
(08:28):
reality too. If this is true, then this is a
really significant announcement that Trump just made in the Oval Office,
Cut thirty seven. He says, India is done buying Russian
oil and gas. Let's play that well.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore.
And Hungary is sort of suck because they have one
pipeline that's been there for years and years and years.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And they're inland.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They don't have c they don't have sea, and I
spoke with the very great leader of Hungry and they
are you know, it's very hard for them to get oil.
I understand it. We have Hungry's in a very interesting
position because they can't have ports. You know, they're surrounded
by land. So we'll see what happens there. But India
will not be buying oil from Russia. And they've already
(09:17):
de escalated and they've more or less stopped. They're pulling back.
They bought about thirty eight percent of the oil and
they won't be doing it anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Okay, if that's true, Buck, then we talked about this
earlier in the week, and I don't think it's gotten
enough discussion. Russia has sanctions against its ability to sell
oil and gas. One of the primary ways they have
gotten around those sanctions is by selling at a reduced
cost to India, and then India marks the oil and
gas back up to real rates and act as effectively
(09:50):
as a middleman with a guaranteed profit. Which hey, heck,
a lot of you out there that are business people.
You're like, man, I'd like to get that deal. Buy
the oil and gas at a reduced rate. Know you
have a huge market for it to mark up, and
all you basically have to do is transfer ownership. It's
a default, clear revocation and an avoidance of the oil
(10:13):
and gas tariffs. And so if this is true, if India,
which has basically been the default market for Russian oil
and gas, is truly not going to buy it anymore,
then this would start to put some economic power and
restrictions on Putin. This is the big one two punch
that needs to happen here. Putin's not going to do
(10:34):
this because he's not going to call for a rather
agree to a cease fire any kind of meaningful deal.
While he thinks he's going to keep winning, right, while
he thinks that the situation on the battlefield and for
Russia is beneficial to keep this thing going. And he
clearly believes that as of now, or has believed that
up to this point. And so Clay, you're talking about
(10:57):
raising the economic cost, which means going after the ways
that Russia has evaded sanctions really with very little pain
to Russian economy because people want oil. And to your point,
there's a way to buy oil and sell it back
and make money.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, there's gonna be ways to do this, right,
so a good business buck.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm not gonna lie the middleman business of getting guaranteed
reduced rate oil and then being able to immediately sell it.
That's peep to buyers who can't buy it from Russia
but they can't buy it from you. I mean, it's
a it's it's clearly a can't make business.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I can't miss situation a situation. But that's step
one of this. The next step would be, Okay, beyond
the economic maybe we just got to like let Russia
know that Ukraine's now got stuff that they can really
hit Russia with, including in the Russian interior. Trump is
talking about this, everybody, Tomahawk missiles. Here's what he said,
(11:52):
Play thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
We need tomahawks and we need a lot of other
things that we've been sending over the last four years
to Ukraine. We've been you know, we gave we gave
them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We
sent it to the European Union. They pay for it
and all that, and they have plenty of money.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But we it's beyond the money.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You know, we need tomahawks. So we need a lot
of other weapons that we're sending to Ukraine. And one
of the reasons we want to get this war over
is exactly that. Uh, it's not easy for us to give.
You're talking about massive numbers of very powerful weapons. So
that's one of the things we'll be talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Hopefully they won't need it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hopefully we'll be able to get the war over with
without thinking about tomahawks. I think I think we're getting
I think we're fairly I think we're fairly close to that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yet the war ended without giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. Any
of you who have seen the movie Under Siege very
familiar with the Tomahawk missile system because it plays a
large role in that movie. That's serious hardware that goes
a long way and packs quite a punch.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And Trump also just weighed in on Maduro and we're
gonna have to edit what he said, but basically he
doesn't like the cards that Maduro has in Venezuela either.
And Buck, I think it's worth noting you think some
of these guys, after Trump let the bombing of Iran happened,
(13:18):
thought to themselves, Uh, oh, I don't want to screw
around with the US, because they've got a guy who
will rain down Holy hell on us, and it's not
afraid to do it. You know, not only was that
the right decision as it pertains to Iran, it was
also the right decision as it pertains to sending the
(13:39):
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(16:27):
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our conversation we just had last hour with Dave Rutherford.
What does Trump have as a message for the Majuro
regime in Venezuela. This has cut thirty nine.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Madudo offered everything in his country, all the natural resources.
He even recorded a message to you in English recently
offering mediation.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He has offered everything. He's offered everything. You're right, you
know why because he doesn't want to with the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Thank everybody.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Trump with the mic drop on the way out, we
had to bleep the president. But the White House has
shared that clip with the message fa fo, which we
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Welcome back in Everybody to the play Travis and Buck
Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We are joined now by former FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Agent Nicole Parker. She's got a new book out, The
two fbis The Bravery and Betrayal I saw in my
time at the bureaus. You can go check out your
copy of that one. Nicole, let's start with this one.
You've looked at the national security side of what the
bureau does before many times. What's your first read of
ambassador former Ambassador Bolton with this indictment on the classified
(19:28):
information in his home.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I think it's a solid indictment. I think that this
is something that the FBI has likely been looking into
it for a very long period of time. But as
we know, having worked at the FBI, they pretty much
put the brakes on a lot of cases and investigations
that should have been indicted a long time ago under
the Biden administration. And so now we've got a fair
(19:54):
dj right, We've got Attorney General Pam Bondy, FBI Director Cashktel,
and they're getting in there and they're actually enforcing the law.
Equally and fairly, and that's something very foreign to us,
especially at the FBI. We didn't see a lot of
that equal enforcement of the law. And so let's see
what happens. I mean, you know, they always say that
(20:14):
you can indicet a hand sandwich, which is true. You know,
the threshold that you have to meet is just probable cause,
you know, as opposed to proving beyond a reasonable DABTA trial.
But based on my understanding and what I've read, it's
a very solid indictment.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
How optimistic are you that things are starting to get
back on the right foot? Thanks for coming on with us.
You've got a book, You've spent time in the FBI,
you've told your story about why you went there on
the show before. Are you optimistic that things are changing
as it pertains to the culture that Cash and Dan
Bongino are trying to bring to bear and what have
you seen if that is true to suggest to you
(20:52):
that it's happening.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Okay, that's a great question. And I wish that my
book could come out a year ago before the election,
but you know, we're a year late basically in my opinion.
But that's okay, It's perfect timing, because I think what
it does is it details a lot of the frustration
that I had working at the FBI, and I basically
represent the voice of FBI one, this solid FBI agents
who are just trying to do the good work, as
(21:15):
opposed to FBI two, the politically and socially weaponized agents.
And I detail step by step things that I personally
was highly disturbed by. And writing this book and seeing
the new administration come in, it's very I have to say,
I have hope because there are a lot of things
in that book that just drove us. We were so frustrated,
(21:35):
we were ticked off, we were angry. There was literally
like a civil war going on within the FBI, you know,
the two opposing sides, FBI one versus FBI two. And
as I've watched what Pam Bondi cash to tell Dan
Bongino and others have done, slowly but surely, it's going
to take time, but I am seeing things check. You know,
the diversity initiative that was going on at the bureau,
(21:56):
it was off the charts. I mean, I started feeling
like I worked for social justice Warrior Club rather than
the number one law enforcement agency in the world, and
they have completely obliterated those programs that in and of
itself is a huge plus for the Bureau. And seeing
these indictments coming out, you know, I'm kind of sick
and tired of people on the left saying, you know,
(22:16):
this is political retribution. Actually, what this is is this
is accountability, and it's equal enforcement of the law, and
it's very long overdue. And so no, this is not
political retribution. This is what should have been happening all along.
And so these are examples, you know, seeing Jim Comey
get indicted, you know, watching John Bolton, people that were
fact that they were untouchable under the last administration. And frankly,
(22:40):
since all of this occurred, I'd say for the last
at least ten years. Those are the steps that they're taking.
And I think another really important thing is, I think,
slowly but surely, they're rooting out the deep state from
the FBI. And that's a daunting task. I mean, this
didn't happen overnight. This what they've created, and the mess
that they're being asked to clean up, this has been
(23:00):
going on for over a decade, and so I am
hopeful and I think my book will be interesting. The
American people because I worked under Obama, Trump and Biden,
and I worked under multiple FBI directors, and to see
the progress that they have made in such a short
period of time. I mean, they've captured four people off
of the FBI's most wanted list since January. That's as
(23:22):
many as Biden captured in four years. I mean, it's
pretty awesome. But it's going to take time, and you know,
it's just the reality of it. They've got a lot
to do, but they're working tirelessly. So I do feel
a sense of hope. But I do think my book
is kind of something that they can even use and say, look,
how are we doing on this? How are we doing
on that? But I do think that they're making significant progress.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And one thing that I remember hearing Nicole when Comy
was the really, at one point in time, the chief
of the hashtag resistance against Donald Trump, right he was
this big figure of admiration for MSNBC and the New
York Times, was that when he got fired, there was
(24:07):
this there was this story that was always being circulated
by the Democrat media of oh my gosh, all the
agents are just crying in the hallways because Kmy is gone,
what's the truth of that?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yes or no? Or what can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Excellent question, and I'll tell you right now. That's what
my book's about. FBI one, we were cheering, celebrating because
he's single handedly was the one that destroyed the FBI
and frankly, it's never recovered. FBI one agents like myself
were like, thank goodness, thank you, President Trump. This is
absolutely justified. Get him out of here. FBI two, they
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were the ones that were crying and so upset and
this is not fair. And they literally had mugs and
T shirts in all this paraphernalia that said Komy's homies.
That's how you could tell it the bureau and it
is literally is like you're either on one side or
you're on the other. So I would say it's a
mixed right, I'd say if the FBI was probably fifty
to fifty. But it really did feel like an internal
(25:09):
civil war, like you would think that you were working
for two different agencies based on what side of the
spectrum you are, And it really wasn't always based on
politics either. I mean I worked with some outstanding agents
who I don't share political views with. The key is
can you put aside your political persuasions and do a
fair and unbiased investigation. And frankly, many of these agents
(25:30):
of FBI too were incapable of doing that. I mean,
look at Peter struck Le's a page, Andrew mccabs, James
call me. The list goes on and on and on,
and you'll read in my book cases where I worked
to protect democrats. I didn't say, oh, you know, I'm
not going to protect you because we don't share political views.
That's not the way it works, that's not the way
the law works. But unfortunately, that's how FBI two worked,
and that's how they destroyed the agency.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
How much should we be concerned, Nicole.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Let's say that somehow the Democrats back, and again this
kind of goes to the culture. Are we in a
world now where the FBI culture swings wildly based on
who the president is? Or do you think the culture
can be fixed where the president doesn't matter? In other words,
right now everything's great. Trump's president. January twenty twenty nine,
(26:19):
a Democrat comes in, Kamala Harris, AOC, Gavin Newsom, insert
name here. How much would we be concerned that the
culture just flips right back to what it was when
it was broken.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
That's a genuine concern. That's a concern that I personally have.
Bringing back all of these social justice warrior clubs, the
things that literally destroyed the law enforcement agency work. Then
they're going to say, Okay, well now we're going to
go after these people. But that's why I think it's
important that under this administration that these indictments is made
perfectly clear. These are not political retribution indictments. These are
(26:52):
what we call equal enforcement of the law. And that's
what it has to be. It cannot be this ping pong,
Oh you know a Democrat, this is going to happen
the Republicans in charge. No, it literally has to be
a political and lady justice must be blind. That's the goal.
We'll see what happens, because I'm telling you right now,
the Democrats they're just thinking, oh, they're just going after
all of you know, Trump's opponents. That's not what's happening
(27:14):
at all. They're finally enforcing laws that should have been
enforced a long time ago. And that's what Americans want
to see. It should be fair and it should be unbiased,
and for anyone to say that it was fair and
unbiased under the Biden administration. It's completely that's just ridiculous.
I mean, they went after President Trump like he was
on the FBI's top ten most wanted list. I couldn't
believe what I was experiencing. Again, I detailed things that
(27:35):
I heard with my own two ears. The rate at
mar A Lago was an FBI in Miami's jurisdiction, which
is where I was located. Hearing some of the conversations,
I'm like, I can't believe that this is happening. Is
this is not what we when we raised our hand
into then oath, it was not to this. We are
sworn to protect the American people and uphold the Constitution.
And again FBI won. They did it beautifully. They're out
(27:58):
there working violent crime, stopping human track and I do
I talk about some of the harrowing cases. My best
friend the FBI was killed protecting children. Those are heroes.
There are good people there. But the other half FBI
two political nonsense. Any wait, what.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Did they tell people, if it was, what were they
telling the agents who had to put on the famous
or infamous windbreakers that we all think of we think
of FBI raids that they were going to essentially the
President's residence at mar Alago to grab some dusty folders.
How did they sell that one to the FBI agents
(28:35):
in your office?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Okay, so first of all, the ray jackets. Yeah, it's
on the cover of my book. I was not involved
at the raid of mar A Lago, but they there
wasn't like a big open discussion that it was going
to be happening. Okay there, for instance, roger Stone. When
the roger Stone incident happened, they actually sent out what
we call a canvas and it was an email acting
people to volunteer for an arrest in for Lauderdale. That
(28:59):
they didn't spect who it was or what it was.
Something in my gut was like, and that's off, I'm
not doing that because you know, when they have these
big operations.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Did you think did you think that someone in the
bureau tipped off the FBI to the uh sorry, tipped
off the CNN to that raid by the way.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
How else?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Course, Well, I just wanted to get an FBI person on,
you know, to say this, because we're all said at
the time, like, there's no way CNN just happened to
be there.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
At five minutes.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
No, no, you you read in my book. That's not a coincidence.
You don't just suddenly get information about that, Like, no
one knows where we are, what we're doing. But as
far as Mara a Lago, that's not something that they
put a canvas out board. They handpicked very carefully and
it was WFO from DC that came down. They worked
with FBI Miami. Certain people were selected. Obviously, it was
up in our Palm Beach office out of the Palm
(29:44):
Beach Residence Agency, which is part of FBI Miami.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Did you hear of anyone refusing sorry, sorry, but we
have limited time. Did you hear of anyone refusing to
go or at least raising the issue of like I
don't want to be a part of this.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yes, I did, yep, I did. Yeah, they were okay,
said no, I don't want to be a part of that.
And again FBI one, they want nothing to do with it.
They just want to do it. So yeah, there are
people within the agency that said no. I personally was
one that said I'm not doing January sixth, I don't care.
And I made a vow to my best friend the
day before she's killed. We're like, we're not doing that.
No matter what, I am not doing that because that
(30:17):
is not fair. It is they are my friend. Right
before she died, literally some of her last words, and
it's very, very powerful. She's like, this looks like political intimidation.
I'm not going to be a part of this. And
I said I'm not going to be a part of
it either, and we made a vow to each other,
and then she was killed, you know, eighteen hours later.
So these are the kinds of honorable people that we
don't hear about at the FBI. The FBI one, they
(30:40):
are strong, I mean, she lost her life protecting children.
On the other hand, there were people salivating at the chance.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What happened to your friend. You've mentioned this a few times.
I assume it's in the book.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
It's in the book, and it's very it is. It
is disgusting. They didn't send the SWAT team for her
operation when they were going to take down the child
predator first, her torrant, the child you know, child porn guy.
No slot for her. And this is February second of
twenty twenty one. But in the meantime, they were liberally
sending SWAT resources nationwide for January sixth, misdemeanors. People that
(31:13):
walked into the Capitol and took a photo, they got
the full force of the federal government on them, with
SWAT and everything. But when it came to the real
work and people protecting children like my best friend, no swat,
two ages dead, three agent shot, and you will read
about that in the book. And that's something no one
knows about. So I think this book will be very
interesting to people. And by the way, the FBI didn't
(31:35):
even pay for her funeral. They didn't have the money
to pay for her funeral, but they had the money
to pay for diversity programs. So I recommend that people
pick up the book because their little facts and details
that only an insider like I lived it, and it's
it's so frustrating when you're on the inside. You can't
say a word.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You can't say, Oh, I'm going to get my copy
right I'm sold. I'm gonna get my copy right now.
And I recommend everyone else. The two fbis Nicole Parker's
the author. Nicole, thanks for being here. We'll talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
All right. I love y'all. Have a great weekend in
God blast, take.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Care, Thank you, thank you.
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Let me play this because I teased it a couple
of different times. As we go into the break, and
(34:12):
by the break, I mean the weekend until we're back
with you on Monday, Obama has just shared from his
Twitter account this video. If you're wondering how close potentially
are things getting in Virginia, this is a sign that
maybe the internals for Abigail Spanburger are not as good
as some people might have anticipated, because Obama is now
(34:33):
cutting endorsement ads for her in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is that.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Virginia's elections are some of the most important in the
country this year, and I am proud to endorse Abigail
span Burger for governor. Republican policies are raising costs on
working families so billionaires can get massive tax cuts. As governor,
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(35:02):
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Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, so Buck.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
My immediate read on that is she must be doing
bad with black voters, and she must be in a
dogfight compared to what the expectations are publicly now, maybe
that maybe they just want to win by double digits
and Obama is just usually when they trot out Obama.
This was true with Kamala and everybody else. It's because
black voters aren't moving. Remember Obama lectured black men right
(35:36):
before the end of the race, like, I understand some
of you are not showing up and voting for Kamala,
and I think you're doing that because you're sexist. And
that didn't work very well, because twenty one percent of
black men voted for Trump, the record numbers. And so
I see this as actually, counterintuitively a good sign for
win some seers and also for Jason Miarez, and we
encourage all of you to make sure you are registered
(35:57):
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(36:41):
and Clay is gonna watch some football.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Go Big Orange take down that awful Alabama Crimson Tide team.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We'll see you Monday.
Third hour of claan Buck kicks off now, and just
moments ago there was a conversation underway between Well Trump,
it's actually still going, but we have some of the
latest for you on his discussion with Voladimir Zelenski of
Ukraine and the effort to end the Russia Ukraine War.
(00:22):
Very much underway. Trump's spearheading this. He is not tired
of winning the peace. He is not tired of winning
the peace. He wants to keep going and he is
hoping to get to a ceasefire and a durable peace
agreement between Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We will see if that happens.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Let's work you through some of the latest of what
Trump has said with respect to this meeting. Like I said,
this is just from moments ago, bringing the latest here.
This is cut thirty five hit.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It to be determined, but I would say most likely
it's going to be a double meeting. It'll be a
double meeting, but we will have the President Zelensky in touch.
There's a lot of red blood with the two presidents.
And I'm not speaking out of turn when I say
(01:12):
it's a very difficult situation. You know, we just settled
the war and after thousands of years. I guess people
say anywhere from five hundred to three thousand years. And
I was in rooms as you saw, because you were
with me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
A lot of you were with me.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Last week with leaders that didn't like each other, but
they were able to get along. These two leaders do
not like each other, and we want to make it
comfortable for everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So one way or.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The other will be involved in threes, but it may
be separated.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's talking about the structure here, clav how these conversations
will be with Zelenski and Putin going forward, so he
may be the full the full on intermediaries what he's saying, right, have.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
You ever been to these before? Buck? This is I'm
kind of grinning. You could see it grinning.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Trump as the mediator is Actually if SNL did decent
skits anymore, Trump as the mediator, going back and forth
between Zelenski and Putin would actually be an opportunity for
great comedic skit making possibilities. Because if you've ever been
to a mediation, some of you may have been through divorces.
(02:23):
That's awful. A lot of times they are mediated. I
did mediations back in the day when I was a lawyer.
I've never been the media tour, but basically, if the
two parties are really angry, one party's like, I hope
they die and I hope they you know, every minute
they wake up for the rest of their life, their
first thought is how much they got screwed by me.
(02:45):
You go tell them that, and then the mediator walks back.
It's like, there's a lot of passion, but I think
we've got something here. You know, you just have to
basically totally lie to both sides that are furious and
angry and they just want to vent and they want
everybody to hear their side. So the idea of Trump
as like the you know, really thoughtful okay, okay, and
(03:07):
then he goes back and he just lies, you know,
to try to make the two parties seem like they
aren't as far apart as they actually are in an
effort to ultimately bring them together. Is very comedically entertaining.
But that's where we are. I think Zelensky and Putin
hate each other, as you could well imagine, and Trump
now has to somehow be the bridge of across that
(03:29):
river of discord and animosity. And what it's funny about
it as well, is This is the exact opposite of
what most people in legacy media see Trump as. But
I think he sees himself as someone that can be
a bridge to diplomacy. And so that's where we are.
And that's kind of laughing just thinking about Trump as
the ultimate adult in the room trying to mediate this
(03:50):
very serious disagreement, which is frankly cost hundreds of thousands
of lives on both sides. And he's the adult, and
he's the one who's going to be trying to tamp
down the emotion as opposed to being the emotional, sort
of liking rod as he often is in many other
different political disputes.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I think this also speaks to the way these
two leaders feel about each other and the trust or
lack thereof, that exists between them. This is Zelenski saying
that he wants security guarantees if he's going to meet
with Putin play thirty six.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
I think we need to sit and speak. The second point,
we need cease file. Even now you see in the
Middle East it's very difficult to hold his file everywhere
in every war, it's very difficult. We want this, Putin
doesn't want. That's why we need pressurerly, we will speak
with President today what we need. We understand what we
(04:49):
need to put in to negotiation table. And as I
said previously, so we're ready to speak in any kind
of format. Bilateral, trilateral, doesn't matter, matter, just piece. This
is important, and we don't speak about NATA ornate NATA.
For Ukrainians it's very important. Of course, it's our decision,
(05:11):
decisions of allies to decide where we are. But the
most important thing, the most important thing for people in Ukraine,
which are under each day's attacks, to have really strong
security guarantees. NATO is the best, but the weapon is
very important. Allies on our side is very important. And
between us, for us by lateral security guarantees, between me
(05:35):
and President Trump is very important.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm sorry if it's a little hard. I mean, just
mean this a little hard to understand. His accent is
pretty thick, but he's just saying, look, you know what
I meet with Putin, but we got to Basically, he
knows that unless there are other parties involved here who
are willing to drop the hammer on Russia if it
(06:00):
comes to it, whatever Putin signs is not worth the
paper it's printed on.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Correct, And this is where I think Putin this is
my prediction, because he respects Trump and because he actually
on some level fears how Trump might respond to him,
may be willing to enter into some form of agreement.
The problem is Trump is going to leave office in
(06:26):
January of twenty nine. We saw what happened when Trump
left office last time. Putin can play the long game.
He can do the next fifteen years. I don't know
how long he's going to be in power, but I
don't see any immediate threat to Vladimir Putin's reign, and
I am a bit concerned that That's what Hamas is
doing in the Middle East too, is they respect Trump
(06:50):
and they fear Trump. And if we got let's just
say it a President Kamala Harris God forbid, or President
Gavin Newsom or President mayor Pete or President AOC. Do
you think that the people of Hamas are going to
respect those Democrat leaders? Do you think that Vladimir Putin
(07:11):
is going to fear to those Democrat leaders? I would
submit to you that there is tangible evidence they will
not and do not, and so is there a concern.
I think that Zolensky is correct to point this out
that we may get a short term peace agreement, but
as soon as Trump is out of office and there
is a perception of weakness again it's taken advantage of
Let me also point something else out about this book
(07:33):
that I think is super interesting. Remember when they said
that Zelensky and Trump would never be able to interact again.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Wasn't that long ago that we had the couch meeting
with JD.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Vance and everything kind of came undone on the minerals
rights agreement, and everybody just said, oh my goodness, how
is this ever got? And now they're boys, Zelensky showing
up in the black suit, They're sitting there side by side.
The media very often takes Trump as if what position
he adopts in the moment is going to exist forever,
(08:06):
when Trump as a negotiator has shown throughout his entire
political career that he is willing to adjust on a
regular basis. And let me also play this cut. It's
one thing to talk about security guarantees. We talk about
military force, which certainly putin respects we're not going to
put boots on the ground, but economic force is a
(08:28):
reality too. If this is true, then this is a
really significant announcement that Trump just made in the Oval Office,
Cut thirty seven. He says, India is done buying Russian
oil and gas. Let's play that well.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore.
And Hungary is sort of suck because they have one
pipeline that's been there for years and years and years.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And they're inland.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
They don't have c they don't have sea, and I
spoke with the very great leader of Hungry and they
are you know, it's very hard for them to get oil.
I understand it. We have Hungry's in a very interesting
position because they can't have ports. You know, they're surrounded
by land. So we'll see what happens there. But India
will not be buying oil from Russia. And they've already
(09:17):
de escalated and they've more or less stopped. They're pulling back.
They bought about thirty eight percent of the oil and
they won't be doing it anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Okay, if that's true, Buck, then we talked about this
earlier in the week, and I don't think it's gotten
enough discussion. Russia has sanctions against its ability to sell
oil and gas. One of the primary ways they have
gotten around those sanctions is by selling at a reduced
cost to India, and then India marks the oil and
gas back up to real rates and act as effectively
(09:50):
as a middleman with a guaranteed profit. Which hey, heck,
a lot of you out there that are business people.
You're like, man, I'd like to get that deal. Buy
the oil and gas at a reduced rate. Know you
have a huge market for it to mark up, and
all you basically have to do is transfer ownership. It's
a default, clear revocation and an avoidance of the oil
(10:13):
and gas tariffs. And so if this is true, if India,
which has basically been the default market for Russian oil
and gas, is truly not going to buy it anymore,
then this would start to put some economic power and
restrictions on Putin. This is the big one two punch
that needs to happen here. Putin's not going to do
(10:34):
this because he's not going to call for a rather
agree to a cease fire any kind of meaningful deal.
While he thinks he's going to keep winning, right, while
he thinks that the situation on the battlefield and for
Russia is beneficial to keep this thing going. And he
clearly believes that as of now, or has believed that
up to this point. And so Clay, you're talking about
(10:57):
raising the economic cost, which means going after the ways
that Russia has evaded sanctions really with very little pain
to Russian economy because people want oil. And to your point,
there's a way to buy oil and sell it back
and make money.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, there's gonna be ways to do this, right,
so a good business buck.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'm not gonna lie the middleman business of getting guaranteed
reduced rate oil and then being able to immediately sell it.
That's peep to buyers who can't buy it from Russia
but they can't buy it from you. I mean, it's
a it's it's clearly a can't make business.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I can't miss situation a situation. But that's step
one of this. The next step would be, Okay, beyond
the economic maybe we just got to like let Russia
know that Ukraine's now got stuff that they can really
hit Russia with, including in the Russian interior. Trump is
talking about this, everybody, Tomahawk missiles. Here's what he said,
(11:52):
Play thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
We need tomahawks and we need a lot of other
things that we've been sending over the last four years
to Ukraine. We've been you know, we gave we gave
them a lot. Now we have a different situation. We
sent it to the European Union. They pay for it
and all that, and they have plenty of money.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But we it's beyond the money.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You know, we need tomahawks. So we need a lot
of other weapons that we're sending to Ukraine. And one
of the reasons we want to get this war over
is exactly that. Uh, it's not easy for us to give.
You're talking about massive numbers of very powerful weapons. So
that's one of the things we'll be talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Hopefully they won't need it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hopefully we'll be able to get the war over with
without thinking about tomahawks. I think I think we're getting
I think we're fairly I think we're fairly close to that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yet the war ended without giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. Any
of you who have seen the movie Under Siege very
familiar with the Tomahawk missile system because it plays a
large role in that movie. That's serious hardware that goes
a long way and packs quite a punch.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No doubt.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
And Trump also just weighed in on Maduro and we're
gonna have to edit what he said, but basically he
doesn't like the cards that Maduro has in Venezuela either.
And Buck, I think it's worth noting you think some
of these guys, after Trump let the bombing of Iran happened,
(13:18):
thought to themselves, Uh, oh, I don't want to screw
around with the US, because they've got a guy who
will rain down Holy hell on us, and it's not
afraid to do it. You know, not only was that
the right decision as it pertains to Iran, it was
also the right decision as it pertains to sending the
(13:39):
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the way, we're going to talk with Nicole Parker about
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(15:44):
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Welcome back in Everybody to the play Travis and Buck
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Speaker 2 (19:02):
We are joined now by former FBI.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Agent Nicole Parker. She's got a new book out, The
two fbis The Bravery and Betrayal I saw in my
time at the bureaus. You can go check out your
copy of that one. Nicole, let's start with this one.
You've looked at the national security side of what the
bureau does before many times. What's your first read of
ambassador former Ambassador Bolton with this indictment on the classified
(19:28):
information in his home.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I think it's a solid indictment. I think that this
is something that the FBI has likely been looking into
it for a very long period of time. But as
we know, having worked at the FBI, they pretty much
put the brakes on a lot of cases and investigations
that should have been indicted a long time ago under
the Biden administration. And so now we've got a fair
(19:54):
dj right, We've got Attorney General Pam Bondy, FBI Director Cashktel,
and they're getting in there and they're actually enforcing the law.
Equally and fairly, and that's something very foreign to us,
especially at the FBI. We didn't see a lot of
that equal enforcement of the law. And so let's see
what happens. I mean, you know, they always say that
(20:14):
you can indicet a hand sandwich, which is true. You know,
the threshold that you have to meet is just probable cause,
you know, as opposed to proving beyond a reasonable DABTA trial.
But based on my understanding and what I've read, it's
a very solid indictment.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
How optimistic are you that things are starting to get
back on the right foot? Thanks for coming on with us.
You've got a book, You've spent time in the FBI,
you've told your story about why you went there on
the show before. Are you optimistic that things are changing
as it pertains to the culture that Cash and Dan
Bongino are trying to bring to bear and what have
you seen if that is true to suggest to you
(20:52):
that it's happening.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Okay, that's a great question. And I wish that my
book could come out a year ago before the election,
but you know, we're a year late basically in my opinion.
But that's okay, It's perfect timing, because I think what
it does is it details a lot of the frustration
that I had working at the FBI, and I basically
represent the voice of FBI one, this solid FBI agents
who are just trying to do the good work, as
(21:15):
opposed to FBI two, the politically and socially weaponized agents.
And I detail step by step things that I personally
was highly disturbed by. And writing this book and seeing
the new administration come in, it's very I have to say,
I have hope because there are a lot of things
in that book that just drove us. We were so frustrated,
(21:35):
we were ticked off, we were angry. There was literally
like a civil war going on within the FBI, you know,
the two opposing sides, FBI one versus FBI two. And
as I've watched what Pam Bondi cash to tell Dan
Bongino and others have done, slowly but surely, it's going
to take time, but I am seeing things check. You know,
the diversity initiative that was going on at the bureau,
(21:56):
it was off the charts. I mean, I started feeling
like I worked for social justice Warrior Club rather than
the number one law enforcement agency in the world, and
they have completely obliterated those programs that in and of
itself is a huge plus for the Bureau. And seeing
these indictments coming out, you know, I'm kind of sick
and tired of people on the left saying, you know,
(22:16):
this is political retribution. Actually, what this is is this
is accountability, and it's equal enforcement of the law, and
it's very long overdue. And so no, this is not
political retribution. This is what should have been happening all along.
And so these are examples, you know, seeing Jim Comey
get indicted, you know, watching John Bolton, people that were
fact that they were untouchable under the last administration. And frankly,
(22:40):
since all of this occurred, I'd say for the last
at least ten years. Those are the steps that they're taking.
And I think another really important thing is, I think,
slowly but surely, they're rooting out the deep state from
the FBI. And that's a daunting task. I mean, this
didn't happen overnight. This what they've created, and the mess
that they're being asked to clean up, this has been
(23:00):
going on for over a decade, and so I am
hopeful and I think my book will be interesting. The
American people because I worked under Obama, Trump and Biden,
and I worked under multiple FBI directors, and to see
the progress that they have made in such a short
period of time. I mean, they've captured four people off
of the FBI's most wanted list since January. That's as
(23:22):
many as Biden captured in four years. I mean, it's
pretty awesome. But it's going to take time, and you know,
it's just the reality of it. They've got a lot
to do, but they're working tirelessly. So I do feel
a sense of hope. But I do think my book
is kind of something that they can even use and say, look,
how are we doing on this? How are we doing
on that? But I do think that they're making significant progress.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And one thing that I remember hearing Nicole when Comy
was the really, at one point in time, the chief
of the hashtag resistance against Donald Trump, right he was
this big figure of admiration for MSNBC and the New
York Times, was that when he got fired, there was
(24:07):
this there was this story that was always being circulated
by the Democrat media of oh my gosh, all the
agents are just crying in the hallways because Kmy is gone,
what's the truth of that?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yes or no? Or what can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Excellent question, and I'll tell you right now. That's what
my book's about. FBI one, we were cheering, celebrating because
he's single handedly was the one that destroyed the FBI
and frankly, it's never recovered. FBI one agents like myself
were like, thank goodness, thank you, President Trump. This is
absolutely justified. Get him out of here. FBI two, they
(24:47):
were the ones that were crying and so upset and
this is not fair. And they literally had mugs and
T shirts in all this paraphernalia that said Komy's homies.
That's how you could tell it the bureau and it
is literally is like you're either on one side or
you're on the other. So I would say it's a
mixed right, I'd say if the FBI was probably fifty
to fifty. But it really did feel like an internal
(25:09):
civil war, like you would think that you were working
for two different agencies based on what side of the
spectrum you are, And it really wasn't always based on
politics either. I mean I worked with some outstanding agents
who I don't share political views with. The key is
can you put aside your political persuasions and do a
fair and unbiased investigation. And frankly, many of these agents
(25:30):
of FBI too were incapable of doing that. I mean,
look at Peter struck Le's a page, Andrew mccabs, James
call me. The list goes on and on and on,
and you'll read in my book cases where I worked
to protect democrats. I didn't say, oh, you know, I'm
not going to protect you because we don't share political views.
That's not the way it works, that's not the way
the law works. But unfortunately, that's how FBI two worked,
and that's how they destroyed the agency.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
How much should we be concerned, Nicole.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Let's say that somehow the Democrats back, and again this
kind of goes to the culture. Are we in a
world now where the FBI culture swings wildly based on
who the president is? Or do you think the culture
can be fixed where the president doesn't matter? In other words,
right now everything's great. Trump's president. January twenty twenty nine,
(26:19):
a Democrat comes in, Kamala Harris, AOC, Gavin Newsom, insert
name here. How much would we be concerned that the
culture just flips right back to what it was when
it was broken.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
That's a genuine concern. That's a concern that I personally have.
Bringing back all of these social justice warrior clubs, the
things that literally destroyed the law enforcement agency work. Then
they're going to say, Okay, well now we're going to
go after these people. But that's why I think it's
important that under this administration that these indictments is made
perfectly clear. These are not political retribution indictments. These are
(26:52):
what we call equal enforcement of the law. And that's
what it has to be. It cannot be this ping pong,
Oh you know a Democrat, this is going to happen
the Republicans in charge. No, it literally has to be
a political and lady justice must be blind. That's the goal.
We'll see what happens, because I'm telling you right now,
the Democrats they're just thinking, oh, they're just going after
all of you know, Trump's opponents. That's not what's happening
(27:14):
at all. They're finally enforcing laws that should have been
enforced a long time ago. And that's what Americans want
to see. It should be fair and it should be unbiased,
and for anyone to say that it was fair and
unbiased under the Biden administration. It's completely that's just ridiculous.
I mean, they went after President Trump like he was
on the FBI's top ten most wanted list. I couldn't
believe what I was experiencing. Again, I detailed things that
(27:35):
I heard with my own two ears. The rate at
mar A Lago was an FBI in Miami's jurisdiction, which
is where I was located. Hearing some of the conversations,
I'm like, I can't believe that this is happening. Is
this is not what we when we raised our hand
into then oath, it was not to this. We are
sworn to protect the American people and uphold the Constitution.
And again FBI won. They did it beautifully. They're out
(27:58):
there working violent crime, stopping human track and I do
I talk about some of the harrowing cases. My best
friend the FBI was killed protecting children. Those are heroes.
There are good people there. But the other half FBI
two political nonsense. Any wait, what.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Did they tell people, if it was, what were they
telling the agents who had to put on the famous
or infamous windbreakers that we all think of we think
of FBI raids that they were going to essentially the
President's residence at mar Alago to grab some dusty folders.
How did they sell that one to the FBI agents
(28:35):
in your office?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Okay, so first of all, the ray jackets. Yeah, it's
on the cover of my book. I was not involved
at the raid of mar A Lago, but they there
wasn't like a big open discussion that it was going
to be happening. Okay there, for instance, roger Stone. When
the roger Stone incident happened, they actually sent out what
we call a canvas and it was an email acting
people to volunteer for an arrest in for Lauderdale. That
(28:59):
they didn't spect who it was or what it was.
Something in my gut was like, and that's off, I'm
not doing that because you know, when they have these
big operations.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Did you think did you think that someone in the
bureau tipped off the FBI to the uh sorry, tipped
off the CNN to that raid by the way.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
How else?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Course, Well, I just wanted to get an FBI person on,
you know, to say this, because we're all said at
the time, like, there's no way CNN just happened to
be there.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
At five minutes.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
No, no, you you read in my book. That's not a coincidence.
You don't just suddenly get information about that, Like, no
one knows where we are, what we're doing. But as
far as Mara a Lago, that's not something that they
put a canvas out board. They handpicked very carefully and
it was WFO from DC that came down. They worked
with FBI Miami. Certain people were selected. Obviously, it was
up in our Palm Beach office out of the Palm
(29:44):
Beach Residence Agency, which is part of FBI Miami.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Did you hear of anyone refusing sorry, sorry, but we
have limited time. Did you hear of anyone refusing to
go or at least raising the issue of like I
don't want to be a part of this.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yes, I did, yep, I did. Yeah, they were okay,
said no, I don't want to be a part of that.
And again FBI one, they want nothing to do with it.
They just want to do it. So yeah, there are
people within the agency that said no. I personally was
one that said I'm not doing January sixth, I don't care.
And I made a vow to my best friend the
day before she's killed. We're like, we're not doing that.
No matter what, I am not doing that because that
(30:17):
is not fair. It is they are my friend. Right
before she died, literally some of her last words, and
it's very, very powerful. She's like, this looks like political intimidation.
I'm not going to be a part of this. And
I said I'm not going to be a part of
it either, and we made a vow to each other,
and then she was killed, you know, eighteen hours later.
So these are the kinds of honorable people that we
don't hear about at the FBI. The FBI one, they
(30:40):
are strong, I mean, she lost her life protecting children.
On the other hand, there were people salivating at the chance.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What happened to your friend. You've mentioned this a few times.
I assume it's in the book.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
It's in the book, and it's very it is. It
is disgusting. They didn't send the SWAT team for her
operation when they were going to take down the child
predator first, her torrant, the child you know, child porn guy.
No slot for her. And this is February second of
twenty twenty one. But in the meantime, they were liberally
sending SWAT resources nationwide for January sixth, misdemeanors. People that
(31:13):
walked into the Capitol and took a photo, they got
the full force of the federal government on them, with
SWAT and everything. But when it came to the real
work and people protecting children like my best friend, no swat,
two ages dead, three agent shot, and you will read
about that in the book. And that's something no one
knows about. So I think this book will be very
interesting to people. And by the way, the FBI didn't
(31:35):
even pay for her funeral. They didn't have the money
to pay for her funeral, but they had the money
to pay for diversity programs. So I recommend that people
pick up the book because their little facts and details
that only an insider like I lived it, and it's
it's so frustrating when you're on the inside. You can't
say a word.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You can't say, Oh, I'm going to get my copy
right I'm sold. I'm gonna get my copy right now.
And I recommend everyone else. The two fbis Nicole Parker's
the author. Nicole, thanks for being here. We'll talk to
you again soon.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
All right. I love y'all. Have a great weekend in
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Let me play this because I teased it a couple
of different times. As we go into the break, and
(34:12):
by the break, I mean the weekend until we're back
with you on Monday, Obama has just shared from his
Twitter account this video. If you're wondering how close potentially
are things getting in Virginia, this is a sign that
maybe the internals for Abigail Spanburger are not as good
as some people might have anticipated, because Obama is now
(34:33):
cutting endorsement ads for her in Virginia.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is that.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Virginia's elections are some of the most important in the
country this year, and I am proud to endorse Abigail
span Burger for governor. Republican policies are raising costs on
working families so billionaires can get massive tax cuts. As governor,
Abigail will stand up for Virginia families. She'll work to
build an economy that works for everyone, not just big
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(35:02):
Every vote counts, So turn out and vote for Abigail
Spamberger for governor on November fourth.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, so Buck.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
My immediate read on that is she must be doing
bad with black voters, and she must be in a
dogfight compared to what the expectations are publicly now, maybe
that maybe they just want to win by double digits
and Obama is just usually when they trot out Obama.
This was true with Kamala and everybody else. It's because
black voters aren't moving. Remember Obama lectured black men right
(35:36):
before the end of the race, like, I understand some
of you are not showing up and voting for Kamala,
and I think you're doing that because you're sexist. And
that didn't work very well, because twenty one percent of
black men voted for Trump, the record numbers. And so
I see this as actually, counterintuitively a good sign for
win some seers and also for Jason Miarez, and we
encourage all of you to make sure you are registered
(35:57):
to vote. Unfortunately, Buck, your home city of New I
think you all are screwed. I don't think be fine,
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You're rolling with the Buckster. We're gonna get through it together.
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(36:41):
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Go Big Orange take down that awful Alabama Crimson Tide team.
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