April 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show begins with breaking news about a tragic shooting at Florida State University, resulting in five fatalities and the suspect in custody. The hosts promise to provide more updates as details emerge throughout the hour.
The show features an interview with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who discusses his Senate run against incumbent John Cornyn. Paxton outlines his reasons for running, including his dissatisfaction with Cornyn's stance on gun restrictions, border security, and his criticism of President Trump. Paxton emphasizes his strong working relationship with Trump and his commitment to conservative values.
The conversation shifts to legal matters, where Paxton critiques a judge's overreach in the case of Mr. Abrego Garcia, arguing that the judiciary should not interfere with executive decisions. He calls for congressional action to limit nationwide injunctions that lack factual or legal basis.
The hosts also discuss the impact of Trump's presidency on Texas, particularly regarding border security. Paxton highlights the financial and safety benefits of Trump's policies, contrasting them with the previous administration's approach.
Listeners from Texas are encouraged to engage with the upcoming primary, and Paxton shares polling data showing his lead over Cornyn. He discusses the challenges of running against an incumbent and the importance of voter turnout in the primary.
The show touches on the Supreme Court's decision to hear Trump's birthright citizenship case, a significant legal issue with potential implications for immigration policy.
In a lighter segment, the hosts revisit the topic of dating preferences, particularly height requirements for men. They share listener feedback and personal anecdotes, exploring societal norms and evolutionary biology's role in attraction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in third hour of play and Buck kicks off
right now. We have some breaking news. Just to update
you on this. A suspect in custody and five reportedly
killed at Florida State University down here in my home
state of Florida. We are following this. The updates will
be coming to us more throughout this hour. So just
(00:22):
wanted to let you know that this is the breaking
news out there. It is spreading rapidly. People are finding
out about this terrible shooting at Florida State University. We'll
have more for you on that later this hour as
more details come in. We've got the team pulling together
all of the relevant information as we speak. We now
want to speak to Attorney General Ken Paxton of the
(00:43):
state of Texas. He joins us now from Dallas, and
mister Turney. General Paxton, appreciate you calling insert Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Glad to be on. I appreciate you having me on.
You're going to be a fun year coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We know you've announced your Senate run and so that's
a very you know, very very exciting for you and
your team that you're going to be. You've thrown your
hat on the ring for that. I want to talk
to you more about that. In the meantime, though, I
thought perhaps you could just give us your perspective if
if a state attorney general is involved in multiple mortgage frauds,
(01:18):
if that is found to be true, shouldn't that state
attorney general. I'm sure you're familiar with what's going on
in New York and Attorney General Letitia James and the
allegations that are out there right now. Aren't you, Attorney
General Packson held to a higher standard as a chief
law enforcement officer in your state, and shouldn't that be
the case in New York as well?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Certainly not necessarily a higher standard, but she had to
be held to the standard that everybody else is, which is,
if she's violating the law, she should be held accounted
for that, and if she's committed a crime, she should
be prosecuted for that. And obviously that would affect her
ability to continue as Attorney General of New York.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A lot of discussion. Well, first of all, let's allow
you to tell our audience, who may not have heard otherwise,
you have had a lot of success in Texas electoral
politics already. You've won a lot of battles, You've fought
a lot of battles. People have coming after you aggressively,
and you are going to be running now for the
Senate from Texas that is next year, but the process
(02:21):
is underway. Wins the primary, what do you expect it
to look like? And for people out there that may
not have been familiar with you in the past, why
are you the right choice?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So the primary is the first to DMR. So we're,
you know, approximately ten and a half months away from
the primary. And obviously John corn is our current center,
been there for twenty three years, going on twenty four.
He'd like to state thirty. For one, I think that's
that's too long. And for two, I don't feel like
you've done a good job representing our people. I don't
(02:54):
think you've done a good job, and I think there
is time for a change. So that's why I'm running.
It's there's a lot of issues that I'm frustrated. I
think our voters are frustrated with and it takes a
lot of effort to win a statewide race in Texas.
You need name ID, you need money, and they're just
start that many people that have the name id or
the ability to raise funds that can go against the
(03:16):
sitting incumbent, especially in the state of Texas, which.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We may have just lost him there for a sec
if we want to make sure he get his cell phone.
He's in Dallas right now, he's begun the campaign and
he was just laying out buck what is going to
be probably I think it's fair to say the biggest
Republican primary battle in twenty twenty six anywhere in the country.
John Cornyan, who has been in office for some time,
(03:45):
current sitting Texas Senator, and Ken Paxton, who is the
Attorney General right now of Texas, very well known. But
I wanted you guys to hear from him exactly the
choice that he was making is going to be a big, expensive,
huge battle. He just laid it out March up next year.
So let me ask you, just Attorney General Paxston, because
this is going to be this is going to be
a primary a lot of people spend time thinking about
(04:08):
and involved in. Will be a lot of dollars And
for anyone who's listening, I just want to be clear
we will because we don't endorse in primaries. We will
have an invite out to Senator Cornyn as well, so
he can make his case. But Attorney General Paxton, where
have you broken with Corning on a major issue? And
what you said that you're not you don't agree with
(04:29):
some of the positions he's taken and some of what
he's done to represent the state of Texas. Can you
get Can you give us some example so we can
just start to understand what the differences are between the
two of you.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Sure, I'll give you a couple of examples. First was
his push for the gun restrictions that he was able
to pass with the encouragement of Joe Biden. And he
was able to do that, restricting gun ownership rights, very
unpopular position in Texas, particularly in the primary issue might imagine,
And I remember after it was done that Donald Try
(05:00):
came out and called the Rhino and President Biden congratulated
him on doing a great job. That will never happen
with me. You will never see me congratulated by a
president like Joe Biden. Another issue that he's been very,
very bad on is the border. He's criticized Trump's building
of the wall over and over. He said negative things
about it and not wanting to do it. He's insinuated
(05:22):
that he would be for amnesty those are both very
unpopular positions in Texas, where a border state, we need
all the protection we can get, not less. And then,
of course he's been he's not been a fan of
President Trump. In twenty sixteen, he called President Trump and
albatross around our neck, and in twenty twenty four he
said he was not endorsing President Trump, that we should go,
we should move on, and that he also insinuated that
(05:44):
President Trump had committed crimes and potentially should be held
accountable for those crimes. So those are three of the
issues that I think are important to our voters, and
I think those are distinguished, very much distinguished me from him.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So let's dive into this in particular, you just mentioned
President Trump. I think he won the state of Texas
by twelve fourteen points. You probably know the exact margin,
but it wasn't close. I'm assuming that, if he hasn't already,
that he is going to be endorsing you pretty wholeheartedly
for this office. Given that you have worked quite a
lot with Trump when it comes to the border, when
(06:23):
it comes to legal related issues, how effective do you
think you would be working with Trump in twenty twenty
seven if you're able to hold that right hand up
and become the next Senator from Texas.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, certainly the endorsement is up to him. I don't
presume anything, but I will say this, I've had a
great working relationship with President Trump from almost the day
he got into office. I didn't know him, but we
went back and forth on many many issues while he's
in his first term. I've kept in touch with him
since then, during the times he was out of office,
and have been a big support. As matter of fact,
(06:57):
I was one of two elected officials that showed it
up at mar A Laga of the other was Troynell's
Congressman Troynelles that actually showed up when he announced, because
if you'll remember when he announced, there was a lot
of issues swirling about his legal issues and a lot
of Republicans were keeping their distance because Desantus was was
on the move and and I was there with the
Troynelles because one I knew I knew the President troub
(07:17):
would do a great job. And two, you know, I'm
loyal to people that that that I trust, and I
believe in.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Speaking to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, he is going
to be running for a Senate seat against the incumbent there,
John Cornyn and A. G. Paxton. I wanted to lean
on your legal expertise if I could for a second.
How do you assess this this uh back and forth?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The media is completely drilled into now this mister Abrago Garcia,
who is being currently held in El Salvador. Just I
wanted to just hear what you think about all of
the uh, the the objections that are coming from some people,
all about the process, the judge that's involved. What you
think should happen. You know, you handle these kinds of
(08:07):
decisions as a as an attorney general for our second
biggest state. What do you think about what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, I think this judge across the line, this is
a this is the executive branch. He's this judge is crossed.
We're all about separation of powers. The judiciary is supposed
to be the weakest branch, and they are supposed to
stay out of the legislative side, and they're supposed to
stay out of the executive side. This judge is clearly
stepped into the shoes of the executive role and taking
(08:35):
control of the situation. I think that's wrong and I
think that needs to stop. I think Congress needs to
act and stop these nationwide injunctions that aren't based in
any fact or law. And we certainly there's I think
there are narrow cases that we used against Joe Biden
when it was a nationwide issue, but this one is
clearly in the purview of the executive and this judge
(08:58):
just needs to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
How has life in Texas changed since Joe Biden left office?
Trump came in in particular when it comes to the border.
We talk about it on the program because basically the
border has ceased to be an issue at all. It
is now secure. What does that look like? What does
it feel like in Texas?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's I mean, I think people are excited, they feel safer.
The costliness of it has gone down. Obviously for us,
it meant a lot of expense from law enforcement, health, insurance,
all kinds of different issues. Education. That's our cost. And
the Celler government never stepped in. Even though they were
inviting these people in and working with the cartels to
(09:40):
get them across the border, they were not helping us financially.
And so it's a huge relief to us and obviously
our legislatures spent billions of dollars trying to protect the
border in lieu of the Biden administration doing just the opposite.
So it has a tremendous financial impact, but it's also
I think people just feel safer knowing that we have
a president that's protecting our We're we're number.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
One in Austin, off and on, We're number one in
San Antonio, off and on. We are number one in Houston,
off and on. I say off and on because on
a you know, weekly, monthly basis, things can evolve. But
we have monster audience across the entire state of Texas,
and we appreciate all of you listening right now. We're
also newly on in Dallas, which is where I think
you are right now. When you look at this March
(10:24):
primary that is coming up next year, I know the
answer is everywhere in terms of where will this race
be decided, but in particular what areas? What has turnout
looked like a lot of times people don't show up
necessarily in big numbers for primaries. What does it take
for you to beat an incumbent senator who certainly is
going to have a lot of money as well?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean, we've already done three polls with three different polsters.
I did one with Trump's bolster that had me out
by twenty five. I did one with Ted Cruzs bolster
that has me twenty five, and we did a third
one just to make sure it's twenty seven. So the wow,
I mean, a lot of us are aready baked in.
They know John Corn He's been in office for over
forty years.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
They know me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I've been in office for in the Attorney General's office
for eleven years now, and so I think the primary
voters are really educated. I feel very strongly that we
are going to do well everywhere, and it's it's all
based on record, and he's going to have to spend
some See, his record is not what the voters want.
He's not going to be talking about his record. He's
(11:24):
not going to be talking about mine, because my record
is a record that the voters like. He's going to
be going negative personally, that's that's his a lot of
attack and he's got to pray that somehow Trump does
not that he endorses him, because that would be his
only way of getting into the game, and he's still
going to lose.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Do you think it's possible he drops out, decides not
to run.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Look, I don't presume anything he says he's running. I'm playing.
I'm playing this for you know. I'm going to run
against John Corny, So that would be a great question
for him. I'm sure no matter what he's thinking in
his head, it's got it across his mind. If he's
that far down, he's pulled it. He knows that he's
behind by double digits. And look, I've been to the
Republican convinments. The last time he spoke that he dared
(12:09):
to speak to the Republican voters, that was three years ago.
He got booed for thirty straight minutes. And I'm not
talking to quiet boods. I'm talking loudly booed for thirty minutes.
And that was all based on what he did with
the restrictions on gun ownership in our state.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Toorney General Paxton, appreciate you being with us, sir. Best
of luck to you, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Hey, have a great day. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's gonna be a battle, buck, and it's gonna be
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're still
waiting on official news about what exactly has happened at
Florida State. We'll try to get you there's been a
shooting there. There are a bunch of different conflicting reports
(14:20):
as often happened, so we don't want to get too
far ahead of exactly what happened there just fyi, but
we are paying attention to it. One news story that
has also come down and I don't know if you
saw this yet, Buck, I bet we're going to be
talking about it some tomorrow. The Supreme Court has agreed
to hear Trump's birthright citizenship case. So this is what
(14:42):
we said would happen. For those of you out there
that remember soon after he came into office, Trump said that,
in his opinion, birthright citizenship did not exist as it
is being implemented now. And he basically issued an executive
order saying, hey, interpretation to birthright citizenship are wrong relative
(15:02):
to his interpretation of the Constitution. And now the Supreme Court,
as we told you would ultimately have to happen, has
agreed to take that birthright citizenship case. Now. To be fair,
sometimes they take these cases and they decide them on
narrow procedural grounds, as we have seen happen a lot
(15:22):
because they don't really want to fully commit themselves to
a current political issue that is of a mass significance
like this. So so anyway, that is an aspect of
this that is underway. Let me know if we still
have the callers up that wanted to talk about much
(15:44):
less serious things. But I know we have a variety
of talkbacks. Let me hit CC here. This is podcast listener.
David says, yeah, this is important. Letitia James, we were
talking about it earlier lying on her mortgage claim on
her applications, and David wants to point out that this
(16:04):
would be a major issue for her because as Attorney General,
she has to reside in the state of New York.
Listen to CC.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Criminal complaint from the Department of Housing in New York
State says Letitia James no longer lives in the state
of New York since twenty twenty three, so she could
get a better interest rate. Public Officers PBO Chapter forty seven,
Article three, Section thirty says she automatically vacated her office.
What does this mean for her illegal prosecution of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So this is really important. She may not be eligible
based on what she said in her mortgage application, as
you just heard one of our listeners. I appreciate that call.
She may not be eligible to be Attorney General anymore,
which is why Buck, we have offered Kathy Hokel, to
my knowledge, has said nothing. That's the current governor of
New York. We've offered her an opportunity to come on.
We offered Letitia James an opportunity to come on. Tell
(16:53):
us this is all wrong. And I think the next
New York City mayor Andrew Cuomo also has an offer.
All of them have had offers extended from this program
to come on and discuss what seems to me to
be quite clearly an example of fraud as it pertains
to mortgages. And we played for you the Daily Caller
Report where they went to Some of you have told me,
(17:14):
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Speaker 6 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Maybe at the end of this we'll do I did
want to get into our discussion about heidism in the
in the world of dating and mating and marriage. Yeah,
let's do it now, because let's do it now. We
could do it all over.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I mean it's it's like I feel like into the show,
we can have some fun. There's greories that are out there.
The Florida State shooting things like that. I'm sure we're
going to get into that when there's more detail tomorrow.
So uh, but you know, there's a wide variety of
topics in any given day, and so all right, let's
do it. Let's do it. Let's let's let's start with this.
Let's pull up producer Ali Ali. I like this hot
(19:29):
seat for producer Ali, who's going to her first Rangers
game tonight along with producer Greg and Prusser Mock. They
are in studio in their Rangers gear. So the Clay
and Buck team in New York is going to be
at the Rangers game tonight. Producer Ali never been to
a hockey game. All right, Ali, you are married to
Gerard uh and he is fabulous and Buck and I
are both very big fans of his. How tall is
(19:51):
Girard is six four six four? How tall are you?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Ali?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I am five three?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
All right, you are five three. We have said prior
my wife is five to two. Buck's wife is five
to three. That both of them have told us that
if we were five eight, we would not have been
their dating partner and not their married partner. I will
say this too. By the way, Black my mom is
five to four. My dad is six'. THREE i bet
if my dad had been five, EIGHT i BET i wouldn't.
(20:19):
Exist just tossing that out. THERE i have never asked
my mom if she would have dated him if he
was five. Eight she may be. Listening she can let me.
Know But, ali If gerard had been five, eight would
you have ever started dating him as a five foot three? Woman?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, wow you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
TOO i was also attracted to other things About.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Gerard uh huh if he was five, eight would you
have dated?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Him?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes five? Six, oh my, goodness, YES i think SHE'S
i think she's lying to. US i think because WHEN
i brought this up as we went to break at
the end of the last, hour she five to. Four,
Oh clay can, Answer there's no. Way there's no. WAY
i don't. BELIEVE i Think ali was under six Feet,
(21:05):
Ali i'll Give i'll give you. THIS i DON'T i
understand like male female. DYNAMIC i understand if. Women although
some women don't mind if a guy who there are
women who don't mind if a guy shorter than especially
if they're like if you're six foot tall woman now in, heels,
right you're six three?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Ish?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right probably six. Three would you rather be a super
tall woman or a short? Man, YEAH i think you
had to choose super tall. Woman you'd rather be a
six foot five woman than like a five to four.
MAN i, Mean i'm identifying now as a six foot
six here's five women would. BE i mean that's like
a you're like bigger than a W nba center at
THAT i think that aren't the W nba. CENTER i,
(21:42):
mean you're, like you're a giant woman if you're like
six two or, bigger like, RIGHT i mean that's very
very right for a. Woman it's like being a seven foot.
Man so you, KNOW i think IT'S i think it's you,
know women, anyway some women will date short of. THEM
i DON'T i understand a woman SAYING i don't want
to date a guy order than. Me, again what the
(22:02):
data shows is that women like an amusement park ride
have in their minds at, least and it shows that
they act on this when it comes to online. Dating
a height cut.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Off and every nature, show every nature show you watch
shows the species and how they attract each. Other and
the male birds will puff up and the lizards will
make their gills go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Larger, whatever you, know What i'm. Saying but to, me
that's that's that's like, muscles that's you, know that's maybe
if you like someone's. Eyes you, know there's all these physical.
Attributes but for it seems to me that height for
women for male Physical ali, QUESTION i, mean this is
not fair Because gerard has a six pack and a six.
Four this is gonna get. Up AND i would really
(22:48):
if If, GERARD i don't, know let'll Take gerard out of.
This if you if you have to pick for a
guy height six four Or gerard level, physique what what
are we going for? Here oh my?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Goodness all? Right for going purely off Physical, YEAH i
suppose the fit the, fitness Because.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I'm, okay so she would go with the. Fitness that
makes more sense to. ME i Think ali is in
a distinct minority there BECAUSE i think most women they
just they there's this hype. Thing, DUDE i, Have i've,
Clay i'm six feet. TALL i have come across women
who have basically been, like you, know almost like they're
doing me a, favor like you, bait like you Just
this is obviously BEFORE i Met, carrie BUT i was
(23:26):
single for many many years In New york they're, LIKE
i kind of you, know grandfathered you, Win like IF
i had known you weren't quite like six,' two, YOU
know i. Is wild and they're very open about, This
too like they don't because because it's so objective that
they don't feel bad saying it's not like, THEY'RE like
i wish you were, Better looking like that's, just mean
but like you're a little on the short side. For
me they'll just say it to.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Your face but you know what really sealed the deal
for me. Is humor personality and humor like funny. Is
UNDERRATED like.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I like you're like an, emotionally stable, spiritually wholesome very.
Kind person, you know you're, all right you know We
need ali's an outlier for like like depth and in
as a. Human being we say a lot of people
who are superficial. OUT there i think that's top three for.
MOST women i think height, is one money, is TWO
(24:14):
and i think more women will admit to the height
thing than the. Money thing there's not a lot of
rich guys with. Ugly women i'm just saying it has
not happened very often that you see a super rich
guy with an. Unattractive one here, HERE'S again i understand
why you want a. RICH guy. I understand i'm not
(24:34):
saying that that it's not superficial or that, you know
we don't wish that there was romance, beyond that but
being able to provide unless a guy is playing IN
the nba or is like a tight end IN, the
nfl him being six six. Means nothing this IS what i.
Don't understand but women. LOVE this i LOVE total I
think I think. ALI'S right i think it's. TOTAL biology
(24:56):
i think historically the bigger gorilla was able to protect
the female gorilla from, smaller gorillas AND so i think
biologically women are attracted to bigger men because they have
the ability to protect. Clay biologically LOOK, at ufc but
(25:16):
see this IS where i get look. At you AT
most ufc fighters are are almost all of them are
five eight to six one or six two like there's
very few that. Are tall certainly. Very ARBITRARY but i
think this is. STRAIGHT biology i think it's just like.
Caveman days if you, were, bigger stronger, and faster you
were more likely to be able to kill a animal
and provide for the. Female BABY average ufc fighter height
(25:41):
is five to, TEN yeah i.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Just yeah so documentaries also point out, lions lions the,
male lion the bigger main attract the female with the
foll THE.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Main i get a. Little more, I'm like, i'm like
a great main is SOMETHING that i. Can get behare
you Know what. I'M saying i think IT'S just i
think it's just power And, his historically the more like
size you had as, a man the more power you tended.
To have, Like liteny do we Still have David, In?
Scottsdale arizona is he a short guy? Calling in we've ruined?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
His?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Day no he's? Six, Three? Okay david what have you got?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
For?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Us, Hi guys i'm, Six three my girlfriend's five. To
two one of the first things she said is. Two
things she almost didn't date me because she felt bad
that she was taking a. Tall person but the big
thing is he A tall girlfriends do not like short
girls taking the.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Tall guy oh that's an. INTERESTING point i hadn't even
thought about the anger that short girl with tall guy.
Can provoke because if you're five to nine chick and
your girlfriend who's five to three takes the six to,
TWO guy i. GET it i do think there's something
to your Argument buck in and. Instagrammable age everybody wants the.
Perfect PHOTO and i think there's a lot of girls
(26:57):
out there and they, wear heels and they're wearing a
fancied and they're going to a cocktail party or they're
going to a, you know formal event of. Some sort
they don't want to post a photo standing next to
a guy who's shorter than them because they think it
doesn't make the photo look. AS good i think that
is in. The industry it's the human part. OF it
i think that's even that Is my that is my
(27:18):
thesis that social media and online dating has created this
like rush rush of interest in the. Height situation We
got Walker, In.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Augusta georgia, Hey guys, hey guys love the show and
hearing you guys talk today remind me of.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
The Story so i'm retired. LAW enforcement i was on
twenty two YEARS on Swat and i'm the team leader
and we had a business guy that basically sponsored, our
team gave, us that, you know fre extra equipment stuff,
like that.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
And we invited him out to. The range he was
shooting with us and we were standing around the. Amo
table we were jamming mags waiting for the next iteration to.
Come on and we're all like six too.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And taller all of us are. Big dudes and he
is five to six and.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
He's Standing He's gavin max and he's, looking around. Looking
around he looks, And said i'll tell, you what y'all
are some. Big guys BUT if i stay on, My
wallet i'm six six. Like that and we, all, said
yes you. Exactly right and to, that fact he has a.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Hot wife i'm not gonna LIE and.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I be's here's what we call in. The culture he's
what we, call walker a. Short king that is what
the millennials In gen, z now he's a. Short king that's.
Really funny that's a. Great line and by, the way
is there something too short guy being driven to be
far more successful than tall guy because he knows that
(28:37):
he has to be economically successful to get the best
looking girl in a way that tall. Guy doesn't in,
other words it's tall guy lazy because if you're six
to two, or whatever you have that height advantage, for
you and five to six guy, Is like i'm gonna
do all. The work i'm gonna put in all the.
Extra time maybe that would actually make some sense right
(28:57):
are there's here's a way to. Test it buck be.
Actually fascinating how much correlation is there between. SUPER wealth
i don't mean like you know you're making a. GOOD
living i mean like you're a hedge. Fund guy how
much correlation is there between hedge fund guy like you're
making tens of millions of dollars a year and average?
(29:18):
Height guy are hedge fund guy's taller or shorter on
average than like? FINANCE bureau i want to get to
we haven't had a lady on the on the phone.
Lines yet we got so much coming and though what's?
So funny what, you know we're, sitting here we're talking
about like Saving the republic and, you Know the constitution and.
Birthright citizenship we get some calls we talk about height. And.
(29:38):
Dating Kaboom everybody, everybody's, LIKE well I gotta i gotta,
Tell you Jerrolynn In, los angeles what's?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Going.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
On jerrolyn it's.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Funny that you mentioned that BOOK because i have tried
so many times to get on the air, with y'all
and this is THE time i made. It TRUE but
i do about women Dating Short man. Ali producer ali's.
Absolutely correct it's evolutionary women are to providers, and protectors
and generally that, means, bigger stronger taller men who can,
protect us and men are attracted, to readers which is
(30:09):
where the thirty six twenty four to thirty six bus
to waste to hip ratio. Comes, IN however i think, You're.
WRONG buck i think more women are as absolutely evolved
as producer ali than, you THINK because i think more
women will compromise on things, Like, Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
JERROLYN jerrolyn i love where your head going hold on
the data that the data does not support what. You're
saying so where do you think? People, compromise now you're.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Absolutely right about. The data that's one hundred. PERCENT true
i just think THAT you're i Think if i'm on a,
Dating app i'm a, Divorced woman, I'M forty i LIVE.
In la i'm attracted, to, big strong. Manly men but
there's one that many of Them. In la by, The Way,
henry cavill if, You're listening i've been waiting for you
to knock on my door for, several years.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Just coming Fosing He's henry cavill is a mallugiin. FOR
sure i. Agree, us.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah that's, your comparison that's your standard of beauty that you. Compared,
TO now i you're right that you never see a
rich man with an, ugly woman but you will see
a beautiful woman with an ugly man, very often, Of,
course church because there are a lot of women who
are smart enough to realize they need to be dating
somebody who's a, good communicator who is not too cocky
(31:24):
to be a, poor mate who is reliable and going
to be a steady partner to raise the, children with
than somebody who's. Simply HOT and i think it's, again
evolutionary evolutionary that men are attracted to beautiful women more
than women are attracted To, HE.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, I don't. I don't i'm not going to do
like the. EVOLUTIONARY thing i actually agree with a lot
a lot of what she had to. SAY there i
think she's nailed. A bunch, you know she's a. Very
ajournalin you're a, very astude VERY high. Q listener we
have so many, of them and we appreciate when you.
Call in but let me ask. You this do you
agree with the thesis that height has become far more
of a focus among women in the dating pool in A, man,
(32:00):
erica listen it was say twenty or thirty, years ago
because that's really my thesis is that, Online, dating instagram
social media has made this. A thing whereas you used
to not be able to say, six foot some women
say six two. AND above i know. THAT exists.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I think that it's always. Been important, SO NO i
i don't need some. MORE important i think now we
just have the data to prove that.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's important, All, Right, Well jeryln i'm just gonna tell.
You something if you're if you're a single LADY, in
la you set you set the if you're on a,
dating app not making, any assumptions but if you're on a,
dating app you set that, that uh that filter to five,
eight plus you're gonna get. Short kings just it's gonna,
be great, you know just just let those short kings
make their pitch. To You and i'm, telling you you
(32:47):
know you'll. Call in you'd BE like, i got, YOU know,
I found i found the love of. My, Life anyway
that's that's my little bit of a little bit. Of advice,
thank you jerylend for. Calling in. Great call we'll take
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Hooked up Lisa, And, brentwood tennessee not far FROM where
i Live, In, franklin tennessee says she's taller than her
husband and she likes being taller. Than men this IS
d d.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Fucking flight you have this. All wrong my Name. IS
lisa i am. Five nine my husband is five. TO
seven i love being toller. THAN him i also love
wearing five to six at shield and towering over him
in must. MENA mate i really like being toleran. Than, men.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Well maybe they're so happy that's. WORK y i wish
there are more women who felt, that way because that
would help in the. Pairing, up again it's not that
there aren't, any women it's just that the. Numbers are
and it's not even about male to. Female height it's
that women think it's like an amusement park ride and
it's unsafe if you're not. Tall enough Ben, in denver
we got a big audience Out. In denver by, THE,
(35:49):
way kdfd we'll get a response. On.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
THIS ee i love how you just mentioned like six
foot to six four and anything taller as gingli what
Your Friend jesse kelly thinks.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
ABOUT that I think JESSE has i think he's height
outside of the, optimal zone LIKE and, i know are
you right going Shade at chewbacca at the end of
the show, RIGHT now i think he would be described.
As gangly most men who are like taller than six
or four kind of have a gangly like sort of
a what's the who's like a sort of a scarecrow
(36:22):
like stroll about them where they're they're arms, and limbs
kind of seem a kimbo and not Really connect Longley
from australia like seven to four. Or something that's. THOSE guys,
i mean there are exceptions Like, their shack who is
like a well, built man and Then There's jesse kelly
who's kind of, Scarecrow, like well we're Gonna let jesse
wade on this. One tomorrow we can't let that. Go
on unresponded to
Welcome in third hour of play and Buck kicks off
right now. We have some breaking news. Just to update
you on this. A suspect in custody and five reportedly
killed at Florida State University down here in my home
state of Florida. We are following this. The updates will
be coming to us more throughout this hour. So just
(00:22):
wanted to let you know that this is the breaking
news out there. It is spreading rapidly. People are finding
out about this terrible shooting at Florida State University. We'll
have more for you on that later this hour as
more details come in. We've got the team pulling together
all of the relevant information as we speak. We now
want to speak to Attorney General Ken Paxton of the
(00:43):
state of Texas. He joins us now from Dallas, and
mister Turney. General Paxton, appreciate you calling insert Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Glad to be on. I appreciate you having me on.
You're going to be a fun year coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We know you've announced your Senate run and so that's
a very you know, very very exciting for you and
your team that you're going to be. You've thrown your
hat on the ring for that. I want to talk
to you more about that. In the meantime, though, I
thought perhaps you could just give us your perspective if
if a state attorney general is involved in multiple mortgage frauds,
(01:18):
if that is found to be true, shouldn't that state
attorney general. I'm sure you're familiar with what's going on
in New York and Attorney General Letitia James and the
allegations that are out there right now. Aren't you, Attorney
General Packson held to a higher standard as a chief
law enforcement officer in your state, and shouldn't that be
the case in New York as well?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Certainly not necessarily a higher standard, but she had to
be held to the standard that everybody else is, which is,
if she's violating the law, she should be held accounted
for that, and if she's committed a crime, she should
be prosecuted for that. And obviously that would affect her
ability to continue as Attorney General of New York.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A lot of discussion. Well, first of all, let's allow
you to tell our audience, who may not have heard otherwise,
you have had a lot of success in Texas electoral
politics already. You've won a lot of battles, You've fought
a lot of battles. People have coming after you aggressively,
and you are going to be running now for the
Senate from Texas that is next year, but the process
(02:21):
is underway. Wins the primary, what do you expect it
to look like? And for people out there that may
not have been familiar with you in the past, why
are you the right choice?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So the primary is the first to DMR. So we're,
you know, approximately ten and a half months away from
the primary. And obviously John corn is our current center,
been there for twenty three years, going on twenty four.
He'd like to state thirty. For one, I think that's
that's too long. And for two, I don't feel like
you've done a good job representing our people. I don't
(02:54):
think you've done a good job, and I think there
is time for a change. So that's why I'm running.
It's there's a lot of issues that I'm frustrated. I
think our voters are frustrated with and it takes a
lot of effort to win a statewide race in Texas.
You need name ID, you need money, and they're just
start that many people that have the name id or
the ability to raise funds that can go against the
(03:16):
sitting incumbent, especially in the state of Texas, which.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
We may have just lost him there for a sec
if we want to make sure he get his cell phone.
He's in Dallas right now, he's begun the campaign and
he was just laying out buck what is going to
be probably I think it's fair to say the biggest
Republican primary battle in twenty twenty six anywhere in the country.
John Cornyan, who has been in office for some time,
(03:45):
current sitting Texas Senator, and Ken Paxton, who is the
Attorney General right now of Texas, very well known. But
I wanted you guys to hear from him exactly the
choice that he was making is going to be a big, expensive,
huge battle. He just laid it out March up next year.
So let me ask you, just Attorney General Paxston, because
this is going to be this is going to be
a primary a lot of people spend time thinking about
(04:08):
and involved in. Will be a lot of dollars And
for anyone who's listening, I just want to be clear
we will because we don't endorse in primaries. We will
have an invite out to Senator Cornyn as well, so
he can make his case. But Attorney General Paxton, where
have you broken with Corning on a major issue? And
what you said that you're not you don't agree with
(04:29):
some of the positions he's taken and some of what
he's done to represent the state of Texas. Can you
get Can you give us some example so we can
just start to understand what the differences are between the
two of you.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Sure, I'll give you a couple of examples. First was
his push for the gun restrictions that he was able
to pass with the encouragement of Joe Biden. And he
was able to do that, restricting gun ownership rights, very
unpopular position in Texas, particularly in the primary issue might imagine,
And I remember after it was done that Donald Try
(05:00):
came out and called the Rhino and President Biden congratulated
him on doing a great job. That will never happen
with me. You will never see me congratulated by a
president like Joe Biden. Another issue that he's been very,
very bad on is the border. He's criticized Trump's building
of the wall over and over. He said negative things
about it and not wanting to do it. He's insinuated
(05:22):
that he would be for amnesty those are both very
unpopular positions in Texas, where a border state, we need
all the protection we can get, not less. And then,
of course he's been he's not been a fan of
President Trump. In twenty sixteen, he called President Trump and
albatross around our neck, and in twenty twenty four he
said he was not endorsing President Trump, that we should go,
we should move on, and that he also insinuated that
(05:44):
President Trump had committed crimes and potentially should be held
accountable for those crimes. So those are three of the
issues that I think are important to our voters, and
I think those are distinguished, very much distinguished me from him.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So let's dive into this in particular, you just mentioned
President Trump. I think he won the state of Texas
by twelve fourteen points. You probably know the exact margin,
but it wasn't close. I'm assuming that, if he hasn't already,
that he is going to be endorsing you pretty wholeheartedly
for this office. Given that you have worked quite a
lot with Trump when it comes to the border, when
(06:23):
it comes to legal related issues, how effective do you
think you would be working with Trump in twenty twenty
seven if you're able to hold that right hand up
and become the next Senator from Texas.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, certainly the endorsement is up to him. I don't
presume anything, but I will say this, I've had a
great working relationship with President Trump from almost the day
he got into office. I didn't know him, but we
went back and forth on many many issues while he's
in his first term. I've kept in touch with him
since then, during the times he was out of office,
and have been a big support. As matter of fact,
(06:57):
I was one of two elected officials that showed it
up at mar A Laga of the other was Troynell's
Congressman Troynelles that actually showed up when he announced, because
if you'll remember when he announced, there was a lot
of issues swirling about his legal issues and a lot
of Republicans were keeping their distance because Desantus was was
on the move and and I was there with the
Troynelles because one I knew I knew the President troub
(07:17):
would do a great job. And two, you know, I'm
loyal to people that that that I trust, and I
believe in.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Speaking to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, he is going
to be running for a Senate seat against the incumbent there,
John Cornyn and A. G. Paxton. I wanted to lean
on your legal expertise if I could for a second.
How do you assess this this uh back and forth?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The media is completely drilled into now this mister Abrago Garcia,
who is being currently held in El Salvador. Just I
wanted to just hear what you think about all of
the uh, the the objections that are coming from some people,
all about the process, the judge that's involved. What you
think should happen. You know, you handle these kinds of
(08:07):
decisions as a as an attorney general for our second
biggest state. What do you think about what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, I think this judge across the line, this is
a this is the executive branch. He's this judge is crossed.
We're all about separation of powers. The judiciary is supposed
to be the weakest branch, and they are supposed to
stay out of the legislative side, and they're supposed to
stay out of the executive side. This judge is clearly
stepped into the shoes of the executive role and taking
(08:35):
control of the situation. I think that's wrong and I
think that needs to stop. I think Congress needs to
act and stop these nationwide injunctions that aren't based in
any fact or law. And we certainly there's I think
there are narrow cases that we used against Joe Biden
when it was a nationwide issue, but this one is
clearly in the purview of the executive and this judge
(08:58):
just needs to be stopped.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
How has life in Texas changed since Joe Biden left office?
Trump came in in particular when it comes to the border.
We talk about it on the program because basically the
border has ceased to be an issue at all. It
is now secure. What does that look like? What does
it feel like in Texas?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's I mean, I think people are excited, they feel safer.
The costliness of it has gone down. Obviously for us,
it meant a lot of expense from law enforcement, health, insurance,
all kinds of different issues. Education. That's our cost. And
the Celler government never stepped in. Even though they were
inviting these people in and working with the cartels to
(09:40):
get them across the border, they were not helping us financially.
And so it's a huge relief to us and obviously
our legislatures spent billions of dollars trying to protect the
border in lieu of the Biden administration doing just the opposite.
So it has a tremendous financial impact, but it's also
I think people just feel safer knowing that we have
a president that's protecting our We're we're number.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
One in Austin, off and on, We're number one in
San Antonio, off and on. We are number one in Houston,
off and on. I say off and on because on
a you know, weekly, monthly basis, things can evolve. But
we have monster audience across the entire state of Texas,
and we appreciate all of you listening right now. We're
also newly on in Dallas, which is where I think
you are right now. When you look at this March
(10:24):
primary that is coming up next year, I know the
answer is everywhere in terms of where will this race
be decided, but in particular what areas? What has turnout
looked like a lot of times people don't show up
necessarily in big numbers for primaries. What does it take
for you to beat an incumbent senator who certainly is
going to have a lot of money as well?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean, we've already done three polls with three different polsters.
I did one with Trump's bolster that had me out
by twenty five. I did one with Ted Cruzs bolster
that has me twenty five, and we did a third
one just to make sure it's twenty seven. So the wow,
I mean, a lot of us are aready baked in.
They know John Corn He's been in office for over
forty years.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
They know me.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I've been in office for in the Attorney General's office
for eleven years now, and so I think the primary
voters are really educated. I feel very strongly that we
are going to do well everywhere, and it's it's all
based on record, and he's going to have to spend
some See, his record is not what the voters want.
He's not going to be talking about his record. He's
(11:24):
not going to be talking about mine, because my record
is a record that the voters like. He's going to
be going negative personally, that's that's his a lot of
attack and he's got to pray that somehow Trump does
not that he endorses him, because that would be his
only way of getting into the game, and he's still
going to lose.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Do you think it's possible he drops out, decides not
to run.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Look, I don't presume anything he says he's running. I'm playing.
I'm playing this for you know. I'm going to run
against John Corny, So that would be a great question
for him. I'm sure no matter what he's thinking in
his head, it's got it across his mind. If he's
that far down, he's pulled it. He knows that he's
behind by double digits. And look, I've been to the
Republican convinments. The last time he spoke that he dared
(12:09):
to speak to the Republican voters, that was three years ago.
He got booed for thirty straight minutes. And I'm not
talking to quiet boods. I'm talking loudly booed for thirty minutes.
And that was all based on what he did with
the restrictions on gun ownership in our state.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Toorney General Paxton, appreciate you being with us, sir. Best
of luck to you, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Hey, have a great day. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
That's gonna be a battle, buck, and it's gonna be
interesting to see how all of that shakes out. But
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're still
waiting on official news about what exactly has happened at
Florida State. We'll try to get you there's been a
shooting there. There are a bunch of different conflicting reports
(14:20):
as often happened, so we don't want to get too
far ahead of exactly what happened there just fyi, but
we are paying attention to it. One news story that
has also come down and I don't know if you
saw this yet, Buck, I bet we're going to be
talking about it some tomorrow. The Supreme Court has agreed
to hear Trump's birthright citizenship case. So this is what
(14:42):
we said would happen. For those of you out there
that remember soon after he came into office, Trump said that,
in his opinion, birthright citizenship did not exist as it
is being implemented now. And he basically issued an executive
order saying, hey, interpretation to birthright citizenship are wrong relative
(15:02):
to his interpretation of the Constitution. And now the Supreme Court,
as we told you would ultimately have to happen, has
agreed to take that birthright citizenship case. Now. To be fair,
sometimes they take these cases and they decide them on
narrow procedural grounds, as we have seen happen a lot
(15:22):
because they don't really want to fully commit themselves to
a current political issue that is of a mass significance
like this. So so anyway, that is an aspect of
this that is underway. Let me know if we still
have the callers up that wanted to talk about much
(15:44):
less serious things. But I know we have a variety
of talkbacks. Let me hit CC here. This is podcast listener.
David says, yeah, this is important. Letitia James, we were
talking about it earlier lying on her mortgage claim on
her applications, and David wants to point out that this
(16:04):
would be a major issue for her because as Attorney General,
she has to reside in the state of New York.
Listen to CC.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Criminal complaint from the Department of Housing in New York
State says Letitia James no longer lives in the state
of New York since twenty twenty three, so she could
get a better interest rate. Public Officers PBO Chapter forty seven,
Article three, Section thirty says she automatically vacated her office.
What does this mean for her illegal prosecution of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So this is really important. She may not be eligible
based on what she said in her mortgage application, as
you just heard one of our listeners. I appreciate that call.
She may not be eligible to be Attorney General anymore,
which is why Buck, we have offered Kathy Hokel, to
my knowledge, has said nothing. That's the current governor of
New York. We've offered her an opportunity to come on.
We offered Letitia James an opportunity to come on. Tell
(16:53):
us this is all wrong. And I think the next
New York City mayor Andrew Cuomo also has an offer.
All of them have had offers extended from this program
to come on and discuss what seems to me to
be quite clearly an example of fraud as it pertains
to mortgages. And we played for you the Daily Caller
Report where they went to Some of you have told me,
(17:14):
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Speaker 6 (18:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Maybe at the end of this we'll do I did
want to get into our discussion about heidism in the
in the world of dating and mating and marriage. Yeah,
let's do it now, because let's do it now. We
could do it all over.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I mean it's it's like I feel like into the show,
we can have some fun. There's greories that are out there.
The Florida State shooting things like that. I'm sure we're
going to get into that when there's more detail tomorrow.
So uh, but you know, there's a wide variety of
topics in any given day, and so all right, let's
do it. Let's do it. Let's let's let's start with this.
Let's pull up producer Ali Ali. I like this hot
(19:29):
seat for producer Ali, who's going to her first Rangers
game tonight along with producer Greg and Prusser Mock. They
are in studio in their Rangers gear. So the Clay
and Buck team in New York is going to be
at the Rangers game tonight. Producer Ali never been to
a hockey game. All right, Ali, you are married to
Gerard uh and he is fabulous and Buck and I
are both very big fans of his. How tall is
(19:51):
Girard is six four six four? How tall are you?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Ali?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I am five three?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
All right, you are five three. We have said prior
my wife is five to two. Buck's wife is five
to three. That both of them have told us that
if we were five eight, we would not have been
their dating partner and not their married partner. I will
say this too. By the way, Black my mom is
five to four. My dad is six'. THREE i bet
if my dad had been five, EIGHT i BET i wouldn't.
(20:19):
Exist just tossing that out. THERE i have never asked
my mom if she would have dated him if he
was five. Eight she may be. Listening she can let me.
Know But, ali If gerard had been five, eight would
you have ever started dating him as a five foot three? Woman?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, wow you.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
TOO i was also attracted to other things About.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Gerard uh huh if he was five, eight would you
have dated?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Him?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes five? Six, oh my, goodness, YES i think SHE'S
i think she's lying to. US i think because WHEN
i brought this up as we went to break at
the end of the last, hour she five to. Four,
Oh clay can, Answer there's no. Way there's no. WAY
i don't. BELIEVE i Think ali was under six Feet,
(21:05):
Ali i'll Give i'll give you. THIS i DON'T i
understand like male female. DYNAMIC i understand if. Women although
some women don't mind if a guy who there are
women who don't mind if a guy shorter than especially
if they're like if you're six foot tall woman now in, heels,
right you're six three?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Ish?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right probably six. Three would you rather be a super
tall woman or a short? Man, YEAH i think you
had to choose super tall. Woman you'd rather be a
six foot five woman than like a five to four.
MAN i, Mean i'm identifying now as a six foot
six here's five women would. BE i mean that's like
a you're like bigger than a W nba center at
THAT i think that aren't the W nba. CENTER i,
(21:42):
mean you're, like you're a giant woman if you're like
six two or, bigger like, RIGHT i mean that's very
very right for a. Woman it's like being a seven foot.
Man so you, KNOW i think IT'S i think it's you,
know women, anyway some women will date short of. THEM
i DON'T i understand a woman SAYING i don't want
to date a guy order than. Me, again what the
(22:02):
data shows is that women like an amusement park ride
have in their minds at, least and it shows that
they act on this when it comes to online. Dating
a height cut.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Off and every nature, show every nature show you watch
shows the species and how they attract each. Other and
the male birds will puff up and the lizards will
make their gills go.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Larger, whatever you, know What i'm. Saying but to, me
that's that's that's like, muscles that's you, know that's maybe
if you like someone's. Eyes you, know there's all these physical.
Attributes but for it seems to me that height for
women for male Physical ali, QUESTION i, mean this is
not fair Because gerard has a six pack and a six.
Four this is gonna get. Up AND i would really
(22:48):
if If, GERARD i don't, know let'll Take gerard out of.
This if you if you have to pick for a
guy height six four Or gerard level, physique what what
are we going for? Here oh my?
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Goodness all? Right for going purely off Physical, YEAH i
suppose the fit the, fitness Because.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I'm, okay so she would go with the. Fitness that
makes more sense to. ME i Think ali is in
a distinct minority there BECAUSE i think most women they
just they there's this hype. Thing, DUDE i, Have i've,
Clay i'm six feet. TALL i have come across women
who have basically been, like you, know almost like they're
doing me a, favor like you, bait like you Just
this is obviously BEFORE i Met, carrie BUT i was
(23:26):
single for many many years In New york they're, LIKE
i kind of you, know grandfathered you, Win like IF
i had known you weren't quite like six,' two, YOU
know i. Is wild and they're very open about, This
too like they don't because because it's so objective that
they don't feel bad saying it's not like, THEY'RE like
i wish you were, Better looking like that's, just mean
but like you're a little on the short side. For
me they'll just say it to.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Your face but you know what really sealed the deal
for me. Is humor personality and humor like funny. Is
UNDERRATED like.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I like you're like an, emotionally stable, spiritually wholesome very.
Kind person, you know you're, all right you know We
need ali's an outlier for like like depth and in
as a. Human being we say a lot of people
who are superficial. OUT there i think that's top three for.
MOST women i think height, is one money, is TWO
(24:14):
and i think more women will admit to the height
thing than the. Money thing there's not a lot of
rich guys with. Ugly women i'm just saying it has
not happened very often that you see a super rich
guy with an. Unattractive one here, HERE'S again i understand
why you want a. RICH guy. I understand i'm not
(24:34):
saying that that it's not superficial or that, you know
we don't wish that there was romance, beyond that but
being able to provide unless a guy is playing IN
the nba or is like a tight end IN, the
nfl him being six six. Means nothing this IS what i.
Don't understand but women. LOVE this i LOVE total I
think I think. ALI'S right i think it's. TOTAL biology
(24:56):
i think historically the bigger gorilla was able to protect
the female gorilla from, smaller gorillas AND so i think
biologically women are attracted to bigger men because they have
the ability to protect. Clay biologically LOOK, at ufc but
(25:16):
see this IS where i get look. At you AT
most ufc fighters are are almost all of them are
five eight to six one or six two like there's
very few that. Are tall certainly. Very ARBITRARY but i
think this is. STRAIGHT biology i think it's just like.
Caveman days if you, were, bigger stronger, and faster you
were more likely to be able to kill a animal
and provide for the. Female BABY average ufc fighter height
(25:41):
is five to, TEN yeah i.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Just yeah so documentaries also point out, lions lions the,
male lion the bigger main attract the female with the
foll THE.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Main i get a. Little more, I'm like, i'm like
a great main is SOMETHING that i. Can get behare
you Know what. I'M saying i think IT'S just i
think it's just power And, his historically the more like
size you had as, a man the more power you tended.
To have, Like liteny do we Still have David, In?
Scottsdale arizona is he a short guy? Calling in we've ruined?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
His?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Day no he's? Six, Three? Okay david what have you got?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
For?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Us, Hi guys i'm, Six three my girlfriend's five. To
two one of the first things she said is. Two
things she almost didn't date me because she felt bad
that she was taking a. Tall person but the big
thing is he A tall girlfriends do not like short
girls taking the.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Tall guy oh that's an. INTERESTING point i hadn't even
thought about the anger that short girl with tall guy.
Can provoke because if you're five to nine chick and
your girlfriend who's five to three takes the six to,
TWO guy i. GET it i do think there's something
to your Argument buck in and. Instagrammable age everybody wants the.
Perfect PHOTO and i think there's a lot of girls
(26:57):
out there and they, wear heels and they're wearing a
fancied and they're going to a cocktail party or they're
going to a, you know formal event of. Some sort
they don't want to post a photo standing next to
a guy who's shorter than them because they think it
doesn't make the photo look. AS good i think that
is in. The industry it's the human part. OF it
i think that's even that Is my that is my
(27:18):
thesis that social media and online dating has created this
like rush rush of interest in the. Height situation We
got Walker, In.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Augusta georgia, Hey guys, hey guys love the show and
hearing you guys talk today remind me of.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
The Story so i'm retired. LAW enforcement i was on
twenty two YEARS on Swat and i'm the team leader
and we had a business guy that basically sponsored, our
team gave, us that, you know fre extra equipment stuff,
like that.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
And we invited him out to. The range he was
shooting with us and we were standing around the. Amo
table we were jamming mags waiting for the next iteration to.
Come on and we're all like six too.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And taller all of us are. Big dudes and he
is five to six and.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
He's Standing He's gavin max and he's, looking around. Looking
around he looks, And said i'll tell, you what y'all
are some. Big guys BUT if i stay on, My
wallet i'm six six. Like that and we, all, said
yes you. Exactly right and to, that fact he has a.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Hot wife i'm not gonna LIE and.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I be's here's what we call in. The culture he's
what we, call walker a. Short king that is what
the millennials In gen, z now he's a. Short king that's.
Really funny that's a. Great line and by, the way
is there something too short guy being driven to be
far more successful than tall guy because he knows that
(28:37):
he has to be economically successful to get the best
looking girl in a way that tall. Guy doesn't in,
other words it's tall guy lazy because if you're six
to two, or whatever you have that height advantage, for
you and five to six guy, Is like i'm gonna
do all. The work i'm gonna put in all the.
Extra time maybe that would actually make some sense right
(28:57):
are there's here's a way to. Test it buck be.
Actually fascinating how much correlation is there between. SUPER wealth
i don't mean like you know you're making a. GOOD
living i mean like you're a hedge. Fund guy how
much correlation is there between hedge fund guy like you're
making tens of millions of dollars a year and average?
(29:18):
Height guy are hedge fund guy's taller or shorter on
average than like? FINANCE bureau i want to get to
we haven't had a lady on the on the phone.
Lines yet we got so much coming and though what's?
So funny what, you know we're, sitting here we're talking
about like Saving the republic and, you Know the constitution and.
Birthright citizenship we get some calls we talk about height. And.
(29:38):
Dating Kaboom everybody, everybody's, LIKE well I gotta i gotta,
Tell you Jerrolynn In, los angeles what's?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Going.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
On jerrolyn it's.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Funny that you mentioned that BOOK because i have tried
so many times to get on the air, with y'all
and this is THE time i made. It TRUE but
i do about women Dating Short man. Ali producer ali's.
Absolutely correct it's evolutionary women are to providers, and protectors
and generally that, means, bigger stronger taller men who can,
protect us and men are attracted, to readers which is
(30:09):
where the thirty six twenty four to thirty six bus
to waste to hip ratio. Comes, IN however i think, You're.
WRONG buck i think more women are as absolutely evolved
as producer ali than, you THINK because i think more
women will compromise on things, Like, Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
JERROLYN jerrolyn i love where your head going hold on
the data that the data does not support what. You're
saying so where do you think? People, compromise now you're.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Absolutely right about. The data that's one hundred. PERCENT true
i just think THAT you're i Think if i'm on a,
Dating app i'm a, Divorced woman, I'M forty i LIVE.
In la i'm attracted, to, big strong. Manly men but
there's one that many of Them. In la by, The Way,
henry cavill if, You're listening i've been waiting for you
to knock on my door for, several years.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Just coming Fosing He's henry cavill is a mallugiin. FOR
sure i. Agree, us.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah that's, your comparison that's your standard of beauty that you. Compared,
TO now i you're right that you never see a
rich man with an, ugly woman but you will see
a beautiful woman with an ugly man, very often, Of,
course church because there are a lot of women who
are smart enough to realize they need to be dating
somebody who's a, good communicator who is not too cocky
(31:24):
to be a, poor mate who is reliable and going
to be a steady partner to raise the, children with
than somebody who's. Simply HOT and i think it's, again
evolutionary evolutionary that men are attracted to beautiful women more
than women are attracted To, HE.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay, I don't. I don't i'm not going to do
like the. EVOLUTIONARY thing i actually agree with a lot
a lot of what she had to. SAY there i
think she's nailed. A bunch, you know she's a. Very
ajournalin you're a, very astude VERY high. Q listener we
have so many, of them and we appreciate when you.
Call in but let me ask. You this do you
agree with the thesis that height has become far more
of a focus among women in the dating pool in A, man,
(32:00):
erica listen it was say twenty or thirty, years ago
because that's really my thesis is that, Online, dating instagram
social media has made this. A thing whereas you used
to not be able to say, six foot some women
say six two. AND above i know. THAT exists.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I think that it's always. Been important, SO NO i
i don't need some. MORE important i think now we
just have the data to prove that.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
It's important, All, Right, Well jeryln i'm just gonna tell.
You something if you're if you're a single LADY, in
la you set you set the if you're on a,
dating app not making, any assumptions but if you're on a,
dating app you set that, that uh that filter to five,
eight plus you're gonna get. Short kings just it's gonna,
be great, you know just just let those short kings
make their pitch. To You and i'm, telling you you
(32:47):
know you'll. Call in you'd BE like, i got, YOU know,
I found i found the love of. My, Life anyway
that's that's my little bit of a little bit. Of advice,
thank you jerylend for. Calling in. Great call we'll take
more of This reverence obama, this one uh and and
we'll take obviously some some, talkbacks too some of the
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Hooked up Lisa, And, brentwood tennessee not far FROM where
i Live, In, franklin tennessee says she's taller than her
husband and she likes being taller. Than men this IS
d d.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Fucking flight you have this. All wrong my Name. IS
lisa i am. Five nine my husband is five. TO
seven i love being toller. THAN him i also love
wearing five to six at shield and towering over him
in must. MENA mate i really like being toleran. Than, men.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Well maybe they're so happy that's. WORK y i wish
there are more women who felt, that way because that
would help in the. Pairing, up again it's not that
there aren't, any women it's just that the. Numbers are
and it's not even about male to. Female height it's
that women think it's like an amusement park ride and
it's unsafe if you're not. Tall enough Ben, in denver
we got a big audience Out. In denver by, THE,
(35:49):
way kdfd we'll get a response. On.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
THIS ee i love how you just mentioned like six
foot to six four and anything taller as gingli what
Your Friend jesse kelly thinks.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
ABOUT that I think JESSE has i think he's height
outside of the, optimal zone LIKE and, i know are
you right going Shade at chewbacca at the end of
the show, RIGHT now i think he would be described.
As gangly most men who are like taller than six
or four kind of have a gangly like sort of
a what's the who's like a sort of a scarecrow
(36:22):
like stroll about them where they're they're arms, and limbs
kind of seem a kimbo and not Really connect Longley
from australia like seven to four. Or something that's. THOSE guys,
i mean there are exceptions Like, their shack who is
like a well, built man and Then There's jesse kelly
who's kind of, Scarecrow, like well we're Gonna let jesse
wade on this. One tomorrow we can't let that. Go
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