July 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful and wide-ranging discussion on the most pressing political and cultural issues of the day. The hour opens with a sobering update from Texas Senator John Cornyn on the devastating Hill Country flooding, which has claimed over 120 lives and left 170 missing. The hosts and Senator Cornyn explore the urgent need for improved flood warning systems and emergency preparedness, especially for nighttime disasters.
The conversation shifts to a shocking ambush on federal law enforcement officers in Alvarado, Texas, where 11 suspects have been charged. Senator Cornyn condemns the attack and links it to escalating anti-police rhetoric, emphasizing the need for strong support of ICE and law enforcement agencies.
Illegal immigration and border security take center stage as Cornyn praises the Trump administration’s efforts to restore control at the southern border. He highlights the renewed morale among Border Patrol agents and the shift from humanitarian overload to national security enforcement.
The hour also dives into the high-stakes 2026 Texas Senate race. Senator Cornyn discusses potential challengers, including Ken Paxton and Jasmine Crockett, and the strategic importance of maintaining Republican control in a politically pivotal state. The hosts speculate on whether President Trump will weigh in on the primary, underscoring the national implications of the race.
Economic policy is another major theme, with detailed analysis of the recently passed “Big Beautiful Bill.” Cornyn and Congressman Jim Jordan tout the bill’s middle-class tax cuts, investment in border security, and pro-growth reforms. They argue it will stimulate job creation, repatriate manufacturing, and shield Americans from inflation-driven tax hikes.
The show also covers the evolving landscape of college athletics, focusing on bipartisan legislation to regulate NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) compensation. Congressman Jordan outlines a proposed federal framework to protect student-athletes, enforce agent transparency, and establish eligibility standards—aiming to bring order to what he calls a “broken” system. Listeners are encouraged to support Texas flood victims through fundraising efforts promoted on ClayandBuck.com.
The hour concludes with a spirited discussion on public etiquette—particularly the viral controversy over airplane deboarding behavior—and a lighthearted exchange about sports, golf scores, and President Trump’s rumored plans for a UFC fight on the White House lawn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The third hour of playing Buck kicks off. Now we
are joined by Texas Senator Cornyn. Senator, appreciate you making
the time for us. The story that is first and
foremost in our minds this week is anything you can
tell us about updates and what the latest is with
the terrible flooding that hit the hill country in your
(00:21):
home state of Texas and all the forest thoughts and
prayers that this audience has been sharing with the families
and the communities affected. What can you tell us, Senator, Well,
thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And yes, it's a very sad time. I think the
numbers are now one hundred and nine recoveries. Excuse me,
it's now one hundred and twenty confirmed dead. And unfortunately
they were then able to account for about another one
hundred and seventy who are missing. Just so your listeners
(00:57):
understand this. Of course, Squadalupe River there overflowed went up
twenty six feet in forty five minutes in the middle
of the night. But there were in addition to some
of the children, the young children at some of these
camps like camp missed it. There were day campers, people
who you know, cast a tent down by the Guadalupe
(01:17):
River or had a camper there for the Fourth of
July and the fireworks, but unfortunately they got swept up
in this as well. So one hundred and twenty confirmed dead,
one hundred and seventy missing, and of course this happened
last Friday, so that number will probably go up.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What as and I know we're still in the early
days of uncovering exactly went wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
What went wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Obviously it's hard to predict anything as it pertains to
flooding and exactly when it's going to happen. But I
know here where I live in Nashville, Senator, we had
an awful tornado and you go back and you look
and you find out, hey, maybe they're have been a
better tornado awareness system in place. Are there better flood
related technology that could be applied to help people in
(02:09):
a situation like this where it comes through in the
middle of the night and maybe people it seems quite
clearly we're sleeping and they don't know the severity and
how quickly and rapidly the flood waters are rising until
in some cases unfortunately it was too late.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, that's a very important question, and I think there
will be a time for us to explore all of that.
I know Governor Abbott has added this issue to the
special session that will convene and later this month in Boston.
And of course we're already starting to look at some
of these measures at the federal level too, since we
(02:47):
worked cooperatively at the state, local, and federal level on
disaster relief and events like this. But unfortunately, there are
always some people who want to make politics out of
everything and claiming that staffing reductions at the National Weather
Service or some other cut as a result of the
(03:10):
Department on the Government efficiency or contributed to this. I
will tell you that there is no evidence of any
of that happening, but it is I think fair to ask,
and indeed, I think it's necessary for us to ask
going forward, what can we do to prevent the loss
of life again if anything. As I said, its flooding
(03:32):
occurred so fast, in the middle of the night in
a way that just it's hard to imagine what could
have prevented it. But maybe there's something we can do
in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's being the Senator John Cornyn of Texas and a senator.
I also wanted to ask you about a story that
if it weren't for the huge story and the tragic
story of the flooding, I think would be much more
well known nationwide. It also occurred in Texas, and it's
this ambush. I believe eleven people have been charged so far,
(04:10):
ambush of a federal law enforcement officer and an ICE
officer who was hit in the neck. They had rifles
and tactical gear. And to me, this is a harbinger. Unfortunately,
I think of things to come with the way the
radical left is going to approach this. What can you
tell us about that case and about what law enforcement
(04:31):
is doing to prepare for more of these radical attacks
that are likely to come.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm sure you'll agree with me that there is no excuse,
no justification for attacking law enforcement officials like these two
ICE agents and the police officer and Alvarado, Texas. And
I know that a criminal complaint has been filed that
she alleges that the assailant shot between twenty and thirty rounds
(04:58):
from an AR style rifle before it jammed. But obviously
a whole lot more casualties could have occurred as a
result of this, and thank goodness they did not. But unfortunately,
I think some of the rhetoric, the irresponsible rhetoric. Starting
here in Congress, people from Chuck Schumer the Maxine Waters
(05:22):
on down have basically sanctioned violence against law enforcement officials.
You're familiar with the fact that some of my colleagues
here in the Senate, the Democratic colleagues, has said we
need to pass a law that prevents ICE agents from
wearing masks. They were the ones who wanted us all
(05:43):
to wear masks back during COVID nineteen. But now when
the law enforcement officials are doing their job and trying
to protect themselves and their families, they don't want that
to happen. So I can't imagine that the best the
overwhelming majority of Americans condemn this sort of attack against
(06:03):
law enforcement, and we ought to make clear that there
is no excuse for this and it will be prosecuted
to the fullest extent of the law.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Texas more the brun of illegal immigration, more than any
state in the nation. Now that illegal immigration has effectively ended,
how much difference has it made in Texas? And what
are you hearing from people in your state about the
border now being shut down?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I think they're gratified that the border is now
under control, and now the border patrol can go back
to their job that they were trained to do and
that they want to do, which is to secure the
border and to protect the country. Given the overwhelming numbers
of people that were coming across during the open border
(06:51):
policies of the Biden administration, many border patrol were doing
things like changing diapers, feeding people, transporting migrants and the like,
just because they were overwhelmed. And we've all we all
remember some of the detention facilities which were jam packed
with individuals, and what the answer to the Biden administration
(07:13):
was to simply parole or to release these individuals and
without even a notice to appear or a court hearing
in the future. So I will say my constituents in
Texas and along the border or as relieved as anybody
for this, for President Trump to actually enforce the law.
(07:33):
And I know the border patrol morale is at an
all time high because they are now being allowed to
do what they trained to do, what they volunteered to do,
which is to secure the port, the border and to
protect the public.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Senator, what can you tell us about the your sense
of what is going to happen now that the BBB,
the big, beautiful bill has been passed. What do you
think is most critical that comes from this and what
are you optimistic about.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I'm number one. We had to pass that bill
because if not, we would have seen a multi trillion
dollar tax increase on according to the Wall Street Journal,
sixty two percent of taxpayers. So all this propaganda we've
heard from the left, from Democrats that this just advantaged
(08:27):
billionaires and millionaires is just not true. And it's shocking
to me how easily people lie with impunity here in
the nation's capital. But it's become sort of coin of
the realm, and they are just they can't be shamed
into into stopping it. So we just need to combat
(08:48):
that with the truth. And there's a lot of provisions
of this bill that I think people can be very
excited about. Number One, not having a huge tax increase
on top of forty year high inflation as a result
of Bidenomics. The standard of living of Texans and Americans
had gone down because of this hidden tax of inflation,
(09:09):
and a tax increase is the last thing they need.
But President Trump made clear he wanted to extend the
benefits of these tax cuts to people who work for
weight for tips and who worked over time. So this
is truly a middle class tax cut, and I believe
that will stimulate the economy and economic growth in a
(09:29):
way that will create a lot of new jobs. It
will bring a lot of companies who built factories overseas
bring them back home and create a lot of good,
well paying jobs here. I'm very optimistic about it, but
it really can't be viewed in isolation. I think it's
part of a larger package of economic reforms that President
(09:50):
Trump is committed to that's going to see the economy
take off. And right now we're hoping to see at
least three percent growth the economy GDP in coming years.
We made a lot of these provisions permanent, including expensing
the new equipment and bonus depreciation for small businesses. So
(10:13):
I'm very optimistic about it. But obviously we got to
go out and tell the story, and we need the
guy with the best megaphone, the President, to get out
there and help us, because people when he speaks, people listen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know, last question for you, Senator, I know you're
in the middle now of the primary process. I know
it's going to be still a ways out. You've got
to contender on at least one contender on your side
of the isle in ken Paxton. I don't know if
you saw this, but Jasmine Crockett on the Democrat side,
(10:48):
is potentially considering throwing her hat in the ring. What
can you tell us about the Senate race right now?
And you just mentioned President Trump? Do you think he
is going to way in in the primary? Do you
expect him to stay out? How is this going to
play out in your mind?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well, when I saw Jasmine Crockett was a leading candidate
in a Democratic primary, I wanted to say, run, Jasmine, run.
But so I don't know who's going to get in
the race. There may be more people in the Republican primary.
The race is pretty quick. I mean the elections on
(11:25):
March the third, so we're the earliest one in the nation.
But I've run a number of racists in the past.
We know what to do and I'm confident of the outcome.
But Democrats are hoping, just hoping that the Attorney General
is successful because he's probably the only Republican that a
(11:47):
Democrat could beat in the general election, and because of
all of as many troubles. I won't go into right here,
but we haven't elected a statewide Democrat for thirty years
in Tech and they're looking to break that winning street.
It for somehow he's able to squeak out a win
in this primary on March third, but I'm determined not
(12:08):
to let that happen.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Senator.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We appreciate the time, and yeah, run Jasmine run. I
think there's a lot of people out there that think
she would probably be the best possible steward for the
Democrat Party in the twenty twenty six Senate race. Appreciate
the time, sir, and I want to remind people everybody
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Thank you, Senator, thanks a lot, appreciate it.
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Speaker 3 (13:46):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us that that battle in general.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
In the Texas Senate race, I just kind of mentioned
Jasmine Crockett. It is very funny. Run Jasmine Run, was
what Senator Senator John Cornyn said he is running against
Ken Paxton on the Republican side, the attorney general, and
there is talk that there may be other people throwing
their hats in the ring. Democrat side is going to
(14:17):
have a lot too and so, and he mentioned that
the primary is early in Texas in March, so that
will be a big battle to see whether Trump gets involved.
And in the larger political universe, that is a Senate
seat that Democrats would have to be able to flip
(14:39):
to put the Senate really in danger. North Carolina now
with Tom Tillis not running, is going to be an open,
no incumbent seat. There's a lot of battlegrounds in New Hampshire,
in Michigan, in so many different states out there, Georgia
to see exactly what's going to happen. But this is
why building the biggest possible advantage fifty three forty seven
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with the tie break matters so much. Texans I would
be stunned if they're going to vote for a Democrat.
But there's gonna be a lot of money raised, a
lot of energy out there. So that's one to pay
attention to, as I know many of you out there
are paying attention to.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
We got a question.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
From a caller that I think is a good one
that is diving in with the question. Unfortunately, now that
over one hundred people have died that flood hitting in
the middle of the night as it did. Greg and Orlando, Florida,
this is a really good question that I think a
lot of people are wondering going forward to try to
keep this from happening fire away.
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love the show. What I wanted to say was, I'm
not familiar with Texas perstde but here in Florida we
have alert systems Amber alerts for child children that are missing.
I wonder if there's anything in place or could go
in place like that for national disaster type events that
(16:16):
could help a mitigate or prevent or at least alert
larger areas of something.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Look, it's a very good question, Greg, and I think
that they're going to look at this.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
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Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know this is gonna sound like it's very different,
but it will make sense in a second. You know
how when trucks go backwards they beat ye, they make
this beeping sound. They've looked into this because still sometimes
people get run over by the truck, even when it's beeping.
And I think you can guess why people get so
used to hearing the beeping that and it's so danger
(16:53):
isn't there often times too correct because it's so far
away that their brain doesn't process. Oh maybe there's something
actually that's a that's a real risk here because I'm
always You're hearing that beeping everywhere, babe, babe all the time.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
That can be the truth of alerts too.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You know, you hear these alerts, and if you hear
them too frequently, especially about something like flooding in a
flood prone area, you know, so then you get into
how do you know when it's really the time and
you're really telling people and who makes that decision. It's
a little bit like, uh, yes, And I think they're
going to look into that, and I think it's something
(17:29):
again what I mentioned we had tornado sirens here they
go off, and I think it's the most valuable at
night because during the day you can assess in some
way if the river is coming up, you can see it,
you can look outside, you can recognize it. If you're sleeping,
even if you're getting alerts on your phone, you may
not recognize them, and it can happen so quickly you
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almost have to wake someone up from sleep, and then
the challenge becomes to your point buck. Sometimes if you
do it too frequently, you just presume that it's not
an actual danger and you ignore it.
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Speaker 4 (19:00):
Excellent show. Appreciate all of you.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hanging out with us as we are rolling through the
Thursday edition of the program. Join now by Congressman Jim Jordan,
State of Ohio. So many different things going on right
now on Capitol Hill. Let's start here. Big beautiful bill
gets passed. Was it more dramatic than you expected? Was
(19:22):
it about what you expected what happens now?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
No, it was about what I expect. I think the
economy takes off. I mean, I've probably I don't know
how many interviews they've done on this issue, but it's
like I say, all the time, you know, it was
a good bill of Clay because the left hated it,
and the left hated it because it actually empowered people,
empowered families, tax cuts for families, school choice for families,
resources most resources devoted to border security in the history
(19:46):
of our country to make sure our border stays secure.
And then the work requirements for able bodied adults to
currently get your tax money. In the future, they're going
to have to work, which is a good thing for
the economy. It's a good thing for taxpayers, but most importantly,
I think it's a good thing for those individuals.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
One of the most important things that you think we're
going to see now changing in the economy, Congressman, since
the bill has been passed. I mean, we talked about
tax cuts. That's great, more money in people's pockets, more
money for the private sector, to let the business of
the American people be business. But where do you think
we're going to see some of this in a real life,
(20:22):
day to day way take root and be really helpful
to the bottom line of the American people.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah. I think it's just that fundamental point when you
let families, when you let moms and dads keep more
of their money to spend on their goals and their dreams,
good things happen. That's good for that family. It's good
for their community, it's good for their local school, their
local business. It's just good for our economy. This was
the largest tax cut in history, coupled with the largest investment.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
In border security.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Those were key items in last last ball's campaign and
why the American people, I think elected President Trump. So
I think it's that basic. Now we need to growth
because we got a huge deficit running every single year,
piling up this big Dad. We got to begin to
deal with that. But step one to deal with all
that is to get your economy growing at a faster
clip than, of course it was under the Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
All Right, you and I are diehard sports fans. Buck is,
I would say, kind of coming along a little bit.
He's starting to pepper a lot of sport.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Before you ask your real question, Congressman Clay wasn't sure
that I was going to know how many points you
get for a safety in football? Can you believe the
disrespect is sometimes I have to brook on this show.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We played a jeopardy question for him where the two
of the jeopardy contestants got it wrong and Buck got
it right to his credit, but I'll allow you to
weigh in.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, well, no, I figured he would get it right.
Everyone knows that's two points, but step I guess a
few people on a few people on Jeopardy. But yeah,
we love sports. I mean, now, I gotta tell you, Clay,
I saw it for me. I'm not the greatest golfer,
but I shot an eighty one yesterday. So that's a
good score for me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's really good.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And it's even better when you beat your brother and
your two buddies, which we got a chance to sneak
out and play a little bit yesterday because this this
week we were back in DC. So I'll take that
score because I don't normally shoot quite that low, but
I'll take that any day, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So let's dive into this mess because if you are
a sports fan right now, the whole name, image and
likeness universe has been crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And for people out there who don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Just a few years ago, you went from hey, you
get a scholarship to go to college, that's your full compensation.
Now you can get basically paid to play. You can
also get name, image and likeness. You guys are working
on a bill to try to standardize laws and make
these rules consistent. Tell me what you're working on and
(22:45):
where you are.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, you know, we've We've got legislations actually bipartisan support.
The key sponsors are Gustoll Rockis from Florida and Scott Fitzgerald,
who's on our committee from the Great Say of Wisconsin.
And we try to outline some Bay six things we
want to make sure we spell out for athletes, you
have a right to get nil money. You have a
right to work with agents. You have a right to
keep that information private. We make sure in this bill
(23:09):
that the agents have to disclose. Right now, nobody knows
who some of these agents are. There's these kids transfer
in every year, so agent disclosure. We put in some
guaranteed rights for the student athlete. Now most of most
of these student athletes already have this, but we want
to make sure it's in there. And then probably the
key part is we allow the entity that governs college
sports and we don't say what it is, but an essence,
(23:30):
it's the nc double A to set some rules and
and and basically say okay, we're going to give you
a liability protection. This is the any trust issue. We're
going to give you liability protection so that you can say,
here's what it takes to be eligible. You've got to
maintain a certain GPA. Here's here's how many years about.
We've got kids student athletes today who are competing like
(23:51):
six years the COVID and everything else, in the red
shirt tiers and everything else. They're doing like six seven
years of competition. So we let let the NCAA set eligibil.
We let them set that the number of times you
can transfer. Right now. You know, some of these athletes
are transferreding, you know, four or five, six times, and
what we're saying is you're going to get one transfer
under this, allow them to get one transfer. And then
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we also put in there this sort of salary cap
concept which every sports organization have. And I want to
thank you, Clay. I know you've been working on this
issue a ton with college, with conference commissioners, with athletic
directors and coaches. We're trying not to get too prescripted,
but we think this is the kind of bill that
makes sense, particularly after the big decision of the House decision.
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And then finally there's a few more things where where
we talk about preempting state you can't have each state
setting up a standard and trying to outdo the other.
So that's part of the part of the legislation as well.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I've been working on this, you know, because I just
think it's important to have a standard set of rules
that everybody. I love college athletics, that people out there
understand this. What is the likely because some people are
going to say, well, Congress, I mean, it's hard to
get anything passed. You mentioned that there's bipartisan recognition that
this is a mess, and I think anyone who is
a college sports fan is nodding along. It is a
(25:07):
mess right now. It's a it's a broken, you know,
sort of haphazard system in place. Coaches, players, parents, certainly, administrators, everybody.
What do you think the chances are that this passes?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I know, and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'll let you kind of dive in that. President Trump
has been supportive of trying to get this fixed as well,
because he's a big college sports fan. What's the timeframe?
What does that look like as you assess.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Well, I think there's a there's a good chance that
we can't get a pass. I mean, we've got Samari Figures,
a new member from the Gratia of Alabama as a Democrat,
we got to buying.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Them from Washington.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
So we got already some Democrats signing on. We think
more will do it, and I think it's just a
recognition that I use example, I think the top college
wrestling recruit this year is a young man out of
Pittsburgh area, and I think the rumors are he's getting
like five hundred thousand dollars. So if the top wrestler
is getting that, imagine what the quarterbacks are getting to
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go to these top notch big ten SEC universities. I mean,
it's a ton of money. There needs to be something done,
and everyone understands that. And so I think when you
have coaches and college presidents and athletic directors and conference
commissioners begin to talk to members of Congress and say
we need something that gives some framework to college sports,
(26:23):
something we all love, I think there's a good chance
we get to kind of bipartisan support that you don't
see a whole lot of these days in Congress. But
when it comes to college sports, I think you can
get it, and we'll get something done that I think
will be helpful to student athletes and helpful to college
sports in general, You've been.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
One of the biggest and foremost defenders of Trump for
ten years. I mentioned the President Trump obviously is a
huge sports fan. He's talking about having a UFC fight
on the White House lawn, which would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I bet you'll be there. I'd like to be there.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You and I were together at the NCAA Wrestling Championships
in Philadelphia. You just referenced that when you look at
Trump two point zero and the first six months of
Trump two point zero and you compare it to Trump
one point zero, how much different difference is there? And
are you blown away, like both Buck and myself are
(27:13):
at the President's energy and just the efficiency with which
they have attacked this new term.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yeah, And I mean it's he's got his team in
place around him in his key, you know, agencies, cabinet secretaries,
and they're just amazing. And you just look at the
last the attack on I ran was and taking out
their new cook capabilities was so successful. He goes to NATO,
gets them to and he up more money.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So successful.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
It's the big beautiful Bill Pass so successful, the best
border security we've had in who knows our lifetime, probably,
And you can just keep going. All the things he's
got done, It's truly amazing. And his energy. I called
him last night and then I actually went to bed
and I woke up this morning and so where I
had a misscall. He called me after eleven last night
(27:57):
and then and you know, he was up early this morning.
Where them the phones. I mean, that's just the kind
of energy has he loved the country. One of the
things I always say about him is he speaking of sports,
he totally thinks like an athlete. He hates to lose.
He despises losing, which is a great quality. I tell people,
it's an American quality, and it's certainly a character trait
(28:18):
that you want in your commander in chief, in your president,
and President Trump just has it. So yeah. I mean,
he's off to an amazing start, and I think it's
just going to continue to be good things that happen
to the country.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yesterday we mentioned the idea of primetime hearings surrounding the
Joe Biden cover up. I know you paid attention the
doctor took the Fifth Amendment.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yesterday we led the show talking about that.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is there any momentum to really kind of put people
under the spotlight of a major national hearing, much like
occurred with the Jan six primetime hearings that Democrats did.
And if I remember correctly the summer of twenty two
or thereabouts, what kind of momentum, if any, might there
be for something such as that.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah, I think I think that option is certainly on
the table. Uh with with Chair Macomber, there's some things
we're looking at, uh in slightly different areas on on
the Judiciary Committee. Uh, specifically with the you know, sort
of the auto pen doctor all that, all that stuff.
With with Joe Biden, I really think that it would
be maybe the best thing is if you had a
whistleblower come for I don't know if we're ever going
(29:24):
to get that, but that that to me seems what
we need to really say. Yes, there there wasn't really
uh Joe Biden given the okay on this as as
other people, but that'll take a whistleblower coming forward to
talk about that. Short of that, I think it's tough
to ever prove it. But that doesn't mean you don't
have hearings to just highlight how how we now you know,
we we all thought at the time, but how we
know how just how bad it was when when when
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President Biden was in there and his his inability I
think to to truly handle the task at hand.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Last question for you, Congressman, appreciate all the time, you know,
I think decently Cash, Patel and Dan bond I know
there's a huge flare up. Buck and I have been
talking about this all week as to what might or
might not be in the Epstein files, all those things
what And You're not involved in the Department of Justice investigation,
so I'm not asking you about that, But what confidence
do you have based on your knowledge of the team
(30:17):
in Cash Ptel and Dan Bongino running the FBI.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I got complete confidence, complete confidence in them and Pam
Bondi and Todd blanche over at the Attorney General deput
Attorney General the just nine day compared to what we
have with Garland and Ray and that's that crowd. So
no complete confidence. And the latest investigation they've announced in
the Comy and Brennan that that has been reported, I mean,
I think this is critically important because never forget what
(30:43):
happened with Comy and Brennan and Clapper and these guys
in twenty sixteen, President Trump wins, and after election day,
but before inauguration day, they all go up to Trump Tower,
New York and they brief him on the dossier. Knowing
at the time the dossier was BS. They brief him
on it so they can leak to the press and
give it and therefore give it some kind of credibility.
(31:04):
That's how low they went to go after President Trump.
And now Director Ratcliffe has people who are saying, oh,
this dossier. Guys are saying what Brennan said in testimony
to Congress was contradicted by what they did. So I
do think that investigation is critically important.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Awesome, appreciate the time, Congressman. Have a good weekend. I
know we're not quite there, and keep us updated. Come
back on whenever you want.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
We will take care plaise.
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Speaker 1 (32:53):
All right, welcome back to John. All right, whatever that's
supposed to be. You supposed to be me who knows
close enough, Chopin and clan Buck. But Clay, I was
gonna let you set this up because you asked me
about this plain etiquette stuff, which I think is unfortunately,
maybe I'm just I'm just old and grumpy now, which
is probably true irrespective of how this conversation goes. I
(33:15):
think that etiquette in public places is on a steady decline,
and I think increasingly the barbarians feel like they can
act poorly and then then be outraged and intimidate people
when anyone tries to say, hey, can you actually be
considerate and respectful of those around you. The best example
of this is I really think that the speakerphone conversation
(33:39):
and public people are winning right now, like that they
should be losing. They should be if we were in
you know, ancient times, like they would be ostracized from
our city, state, like they should be banished forthwith, And
yet they increasingly are like, what what, it's just like
having a conversation. It's not just like having a conversation. Actually,
you're shouting and we're all here, this mechanical voice coming out. Okay,
(34:03):
So anyway, I could go on this stuff all day,
but tell me the situation of the plane the plane
line cutting lady, that's getting so much attention right.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's gone megaviral and I don't know if we have
a short segment of the conversation, but I think it
went megaviral because to your point, there is no sort
of common behavior. And I would say, on an airplane,
and everybody who's ever been on an airplane at some
point in time, you probably have experienced this. The plane lands, okay,
(34:35):
you're allowed to stand up people who try to rush
past you and gain like five rows in overall exiting
of the airplane earnestness. You get out faster if you
don't have a flight that you have to rush to,
And if you do, you're being like, hey, I'm so sorry.
(34:57):
My flight is going to take off in ten minutes.
The flight's the lake. Could I please go pass? And
you can talk to people around you in advance, and
you can. Everybody kind of gets a sense for that.
Sometimes even the flight attendants will say, hey, when everybody
stay seated, we've got a few people who have to
get to a flight that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But jumping people is infuriating. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
If you are listening to us, do not walk in
front of people in the rows in front of you.
It is a savage, indefensible move. But for the limited
exception I said, where.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You're trying to swush to catch a flight, there's not
enough room for everyone to take down their overhead luggage,
so people wait, and there's not enough room for everyone
to stand in the aisle, so you have to be
orderly and civilized and allow the people ahead of you
to go.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know, I've seen both nsis.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Recently, I was running laid for a flight and I
asked a couple of very kind people if I could
cut them in the security line. But I showed them
my ticket and they're like, you are going to miss
your flight, like you gotta get your button gear. And
then it's funny because a week later sending up to
some guys showed me and I'm like, yeah, of course
you can cut me in the line or you know whatever,
and everyone in the line let him go because you
could prove that there's a need. Same thing with the connection.
(36:09):
If somebody has a connection they have to get We're
all cool with that, but I'm you know, this is
not nom There are rules, like I don't know why
people can't act like their civilized when they're on planes.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
It drives It drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Don't skip just like when you're waiting in line for
a roller coaster. If you actually like fun, Unlike Buck,
don't cut people in the roller coaster line.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Producer Ali says.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
When you're leaving church, don't skip the pew in front
of you, don't jump in line and communion. Just behave
like a decent civilized human being. Wait your turn when
the plane lands. Making America better and more considerate every
single day. We'll be back tomorrow. Thanks for hanging with us.
On Thursday edition, playing Buck
The third hour of playing Buck kicks off. Now we
are joined by Texas Senator Cornyn. Senator, appreciate you making
the time for us. The story that is first and
foremost in our minds this week is anything you can
tell us about updates and what the latest is with
the terrible flooding that hit the hill country in your
(00:21):
home state of Texas and all the forest thoughts and
prayers that this audience has been sharing with the families
and the communities affected. What can you tell us, Senator, Well,
thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And yes, it's a very sad time. I think the
numbers are now one hundred and nine recoveries. Excuse me,
it's now one hundred and twenty confirmed dead. And unfortunately
they were then able to account for about another one
hundred and seventy who are missing. Just so your listeners
(00:57):
understand this. Of course, Squadalupe River there overflowed went up
twenty six feet in forty five minutes in the middle
of the night. But there were in addition to some
of the children, the young children at some of these
camps like camp missed it. There were day campers, people
who you know, cast a tent down by the Guadalupe
(01:17):
River or had a camper there for the Fourth of
July and the fireworks, but unfortunately they got swept up
in this as well. So one hundred and twenty confirmed dead,
one hundred and seventy missing, and of course this happened
last Friday, so that number will probably go up.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
What as and I know we're still in the early
days of uncovering exactly went wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
What went wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Obviously it's hard to predict anything as it pertains to
flooding and exactly when it's going to happen. But I
know here where I live in Nashville, Senator, we had
an awful tornado and you go back and you look
and you find out, hey, maybe they're have been a
better tornado awareness system in place. Are there better flood
related technology that could be applied to help people in
(02:09):
a situation like this where it comes through in the
middle of the night and maybe people it seems quite
clearly we're sleeping and they don't know the severity and
how quickly and rapidly the flood waters are rising until
in some cases unfortunately it was too late.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, that's a very important question, and I think there
will be a time for us to explore all of that.
I know Governor Abbott has added this issue to the
special session that will convene and later this month in Boston.
And of course we're already starting to look at some
of these measures at the federal level too, since we
(02:47):
worked cooperatively at the state, local, and federal level on
disaster relief and events like this. But unfortunately, there are
always some people who want to make politics out of
everything and claiming that staffing reductions at the National Weather
Service or some other cut as a result of the
(03:10):
Department on the Government efficiency or contributed to this. I
will tell you that there is no evidence of any
of that happening, but it is I think fair to ask,
and indeed, I think it's necessary for us to ask
going forward, what can we do to prevent the loss
of life again if anything. As I said, its flooding
(03:32):
occurred so fast, in the middle of the night in
a way that just it's hard to imagine what could
have prevented it. But maybe there's something we can do
in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's being the Senator John Cornyn of Texas and a senator.
I also wanted to ask you about a story that
if it weren't for the huge story and the tragic
story of the flooding, I think would be much more
well known nationwide. It also occurred in Texas, and it's
this ambush. I believe eleven people have been charged so far,
(04:10):
ambush of a federal law enforcement officer and an ICE
officer who was hit in the neck. They had rifles
and tactical gear. And to me, this is a harbinger. Unfortunately,
I think of things to come with the way the
radical left is going to approach this. What can you
tell us about that case and about what law enforcement
(04:31):
is doing to prepare for more of these radical attacks
that are likely to come.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm sure you'll agree with me that there is no excuse,
no justification for attacking law enforcement officials like these two
ICE agents and the police officer and Alvarado, Texas. And
I know that a criminal complaint has been filed that
she alleges that the assailant shot between twenty and thirty rounds
(04:58):
from an AR style rifle before it jammed. But obviously
a whole lot more casualties could have occurred as a
result of this, and thank goodness they did not. But unfortunately,
I think some of the rhetoric, the irresponsible rhetoric. Starting
here in Congress, people from Chuck Schumer the Maxine Waters
(05:22):
on down have basically sanctioned violence against law enforcement officials.
You're familiar with the fact that some of my colleagues
here in the Senate, the Democratic colleagues, has said we
need to pass a law that prevents ICE agents from
wearing masks. They were the ones who wanted us all
(05:43):
to wear masks back during COVID nineteen. But now when
the law enforcement officials are doing their job and trying
to protect themselves and their families, they don't want that
to happen. So I can't imagine that the best the
overwhelming majority of Americans condemn this sort of attack against
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law enforcement, and we ought to make clear that there
is no excuse for this and it will be prosecuted
to the fullest extent of the law.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Texas more the brun of illegal immigration, more than any
state in the nation. Now that illegal immigration has effectively ended,
how much difference has it made in Texas? And what
are you hearing from people in your state about the
border now being shut down?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I think they're gratified that the border is now
under control, and now the border patrol can go back
to their job that they were trained to do and
that they want to do, which is to secure the
border and to protect the country. Given the overwhelming numbers
of people that were coming across during the open border
(06:51):
policies of the Biden administration, many border patrol were doing
things like changing diapers, feeding people, transporting migrants and the like,
just because they were overwhelmed. And we've all we all
remember some of the detention facilities which were jam packed
with individuals, and what the answer to the Biden administration
(07:13):
was to simply parole or to release these individuals and
without even a notice to appear or a court hearing
in the future. So I will say my constituents in
Texas and along the border or as relieved as anybody
for this, for President Trump to actually enforce the law.
(07:33):
And I know the border patrol morale is at an
all time high because they are now being allowed to
do what they trained to do, what they volunteered to do,
which is to secure the port, the border and to
protect the public.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Senator, what can you tell us about the your sense
of what is going to happen now that the BBB,
the big, beautiful bill has been passed. What do you
think is most critical that comes from this and what
are you optimistic about.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I'm number one. We had to pass that bill
because if not, we would have seen a multi trillion
dollar tax increase on according to the Wall Street Journal,
sixty two percent of taxpayers. So all this propaganda we've
heard from the left, from Democrats that this just advantaged
(08:27):
billionaires and millionaires is just not true. And it's shocking
to me how easily people lie with impunity here in
the nation's capital. But it's become sort of coin of
the realm, and they are just they can't be shamed
into into stopping it. So we just need to combat
(08:48):
that with the truth. And there's a lot of provisions
of this bill that I think people can be very
excited about. Number One, not having a huge tax increase
on top of forty year high inflation as a result
of Bidenomics. The standard of living of Texans and Americans
had gone down because of this hidden tax of inflation,
(09:09):
and a tax increase is the last thing they need.
But President Trump made clear he wanted to extend the
benefits of these tax cuts to people who work for
weight for tips and who worked over time. So this
is truly a middle class tax cut, and I believe
that will stimulate the economy and economic growth in a
(09:29):
way that will create a lot of new jobs. It
will bring a lot of companies who built factories overseas
bring them back home and create a lot of good,
well paying jobs here. I'm very optimistic about it, but
it really can't be viewed in isolation. I think it's
part of a larger package of economic reforms that President
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Trump is committed to that's going to see the economy
take off. And right now we're hoping to see at
least three percent growth the economy GDP in coming years.
We made a lot of these provisions permanent, including expensing
the new equipment and bonus depreciation for small businesses. So
(10:13):
I'm very optimistic about it. But obviously we got to
go out and tell the story, and we need the
guy with the best megaphone, the President, to get out
there and help us, because people when he speaks, people listen.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know, last question for you, Senator, I know you're
in the middle now of the primary process. I know
it's going to be still a ways out. You've got
to contender on at least one contender on your side
of the isle in ken Paxton. I don't know if
you saw this, but Jasmine Crockett on the Democrat side,
(10:48):
is potentially considering throwing her hat in the ring. What
can you tell us about the Senate race right now?
And you just mentioned President Trump? Do you think he
is going to way in in the primary? Do you
expect him to stay out? How is this going to
play out in your mind?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well, when I saw Jasmine Crockett was a leading candidate
in a Democratic primary, I wanted to say, run, Jasmine, run.
But so I don't know who's going to get in
the race. There may be more people in the Republican primary.
The race is pretty quick. I mean the elections on
(11:25):
March the third, so we're the earliest one in the nation.
But I've run a number of racists in the past.
We know what to do and I'm confident of the outcome.
But Democrats are hoping, just hoping that the Attorney General
is successful because he's probably the only Republican that a
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Democrat could beat in the general election, and because of
all of as many troubles. I won't go into right here,
but we haven't elected a statewide Democrat for thirty years
in Tech and they're looking to break that winning street.
It for somehow he's able to squeak out a win
in this primary on March third, but I'm determined not
(12:08):
to let that happen.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Senator.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We appreciate the time, and yeah, run Jasmine run. I
think there's a lot of people out there that think
she would probably be the best possible steward for the
Democrat Party in the twenty twenty six Senate race. Appreciate
the time, sir, and I want to remind people everybody
out there, we have fund raising opportunities for everybody for
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Speaker 4 (12:35):
Thank you, Senator, thanks a lot, appreciate it.
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Speaker 3 (13:46):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us that that battle in general.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
In the Texas Senate race, I just kind of mentioned
Jasmine Crockett. It is very funny. Run Jasmine Run, was
what Senator Senator John Cornyn said he is running against
Ken Paxton on the Republican side, the attorney general, and
there is talk that there may be other people throwing
their hats in the ring. Democrat side is going to
(14:17):
have a lot too and so, and he mentioned that
the primary is early in Texas in March, so that
will be a big battle to see whether Trump gets involved.
And in the larger political universe, that is a Senate
seat that Democrats would have to be able to flip
(14:39):
to put the Senate really in danger. North Carolina now
with Tom Tillis not running, is going to be an open,
no incumbent seat. There's a lot of battlegrounds in New Hampshire,
in Michigan, in so many different states out there, Georgia
to see exactly what's going to happen. But this is
why building the biggest possible advantage fifty three forty seven
(15:03):
with the tie break matters so much. Texans I would
be stunned if they're going to vote for a Democrat.
But there's gonna be a lot of money raised, a
lot of energy out there. So that's one to pay
attention to, as I know many of you out there
are paying attention to.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
We got a question.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
From a caller that I think is a good one
that is diving in with the question. Unfortunately, now that
over one hundred people have died that flood hitting in
the middle of the night as it did. Greg and Orlando, Florida,
this is a really good question that I think a
lot of people are wondering going forward to try to
keep this from happening fire away.
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love the show. What I wanted to say was, I'm
not familiar with Texas perstde but here in Florida we
have alert systems Amber alerts for child children that are missing.
I wonder if there's anything in place or could go
in place like that for national disaster type events that
(16:16):
could help a mitigate or prevent or at least alert
larger areas of something.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Look, it's a very good question, Greg, and I think
that they're going to look at this.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
But I'll just point this out you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know this is gonna sound like it's very different,
but it will make sense in a second. You know
how when trucks go backwards they beat ye, they make
this beeping sound. They've looked into this because still sometimes
people get run over by the truck, even when it's beeping.
And I think you can guess why people get so
used to hearing the beeping that and it's so danger
(16:53):
isn't there often times too correct because it's so far
away that their brain doesn't process. Oh maybe there's something
actually that's a that's a real risk here because I'm
always You're hearing that beeping everywhere, babe, babe all the time.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
That can be the truth of alerts too.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You know, you hear these alerts, and if you hear
them too frequently, especially about something like flooding in a
flood prone area, you know, so then you get into
how do you know when it's really the time and
you're really telling people and who makes that decision. It's
a little bit like, uh, yes, And I think they're
going to look into that, and I think it's something
(17:29):
again what I mentioned we had tornado sirens here they
go off, and I think it's the most valuable at
night because during the day you can assess in some
way if the river is coming up, you can see it,
you can look outside, you can recognize it. If you're sleeping,
even if you're getting alerts on your phone, you may
not recognize them, and it can happen so quickly you
(17:49):
almost have to wake someone up from sleep, and then
the challenge becomes to your point buck. Sometimes if you
do it too frequently, you just presume that it's not
an actual danger and you ignore it.
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Speaker 4 (19:00):
Excellent show. Appreciate all of you.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hanging out with us as we are rolling through the
Thursday edition of the program. Join now by Congressman Jim Jordan,
State of Ohio. So many different things going on right
now on Capitol Hill. Let's start here. Big beautiful bill
gets passed. Was it more dramatic than you expected? Was
(19:22):
it about what you expected what happens now?
Speaker 7 (19:25):
No, it was about what I expect. I think the
economy takes off. I mean, I've probably I don't know
how many interviews they've done on this issue, but it's
like I say, all the time, you know, it was
a good bill of Clay because the left hated it,
and the left hated it because it actually empowered people,
empowered families, tax cuts for families, school choice for families,
resources most resources devoted to border security in the history
(19:46):
of our country to make sure our border stays secure.
And then the work requirements for able bodied adults to
currently get your tax money. In the future, they're going
to have to work, which is a good thing for
the economy. It's a good thing for taxpayers, but most importantly,
I think it's a good thing for those individuals.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
One of the most important things that you think we're
going to see now changing in the economy, Congressman, since
the bill has been passed. I mean, we talked about
tax cuts. That's great, more money in people's pockets, more
money for the private sector, to let the business of
the American people be business. But where do you think
we're going to see some of this in a real life,
(20:22):
day to day way take root and be really helpful
to the bottom line of the American people.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah. I think it's just that fundamental point when you
let families, when you let moms and dads keep more
of their money to spend on their goals and their dreams,
good things happen. That's good for that family. It's good
for their community, it's good for their local school, their
local business. It's just good for our economy. This was
the largest tax cut in history, coupled with the largest investment.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
In border security.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Those were key items in last last ball's campaign and
why the American people, I think elected President Trump. So
I think it's that basic. Now we need to growth
because we got a huge deficit running every single year,
piling up this big Dad. We got to begin to
deal with that. But step one to deal with all
that is to get your economy growing at a faster
clip than, of course it was under the Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
All Right, you and I are diehard sports fans. Buck is,
I would say, kind of coming along a little bit.
He's starting to pepper a lot of sport.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Before you ask your real question, Congressman Clay wasn't sure
that I was going to know how many points you
get for a safety in football? Can you believe the
disrespect is sometimes I have to brook on this show.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We played a jeopardy question for him where the two
of the jeopardy contestants got it wrong and Buck got
it right to his credit, but I'll allow you to
weigh in.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, well, no, I figured he would get it right.
Everyone knows that's two points, but step I guess a
few people on a few people on Jeopardy. But yeah,
we love sports. I mean, now, I gotta tell you, Clay,
I saw it for me. I'm not the greatest golfer,
but I shot an eighty one yesterday. So that's a
good score for me.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's really good.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And it's even better when you beat your brother and
your two buddies, which we got a chance to sneak
out and play a little bit yesterday because this this
week we were back in DC. So I'll take that
score because I don't normally shoot quite that low, but
I'll take that any day, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
So let's dive into this mess because if you are
a sports fan right now, the whole name, image and
likeness universe has been crazy.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And for people out there who don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Just a few years ago, you went from hey, you
get a scholarship to go to college, that's your full compensation.
Now you can get basically paid to play. You can
also get name, image and likeness. You guys are working
on a bill to try to standardize laws and make
these rules consistent. Tell me what you're working on and
(22:45):
where you are.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, you know, we've We've got legislations actually bipartisan support.
The key sponsors are Gustoll Rockis from Florida and Scott Fitzgerald,
who's on our committee from the Great Say of Wisconsin.
And we try to outline some Bay six things we
want to make sure we spell out for athletes, you
have a right to get nil money. You have a
right to work with agents. You have a right to
keep that information private. We make sure in this bill
(23:09):
that the agents have to disclose. Right now, nobody knows
who some of these agents are. There's these kids transfer
in every year, so agent disclosure. We put in some
guaranteed rights for the student athlete. Now most of most
of these student athletes already have this, but we want
to make sure it's in there. And then probably the
key part is we allow the entity that governs college
sports and we don't say what it is, but an essence,
(23:30):
it's the nc double A to set some rules and
and and basically say okay, we're going to give you
a liability protection. This is the any trust issue. We're
going to give you liability protection so that you can say,
here's what it takes to be eligible. You've got to
maintain a certain GPA. Here's here's how many years about.
We've got kids student athletes today who are competing like
(23:51):
six years the COVID and everything else, in the red
shirt tiers and everything else. They're doing like six seven
years of competition. So we let let the NCAA set eligibil.
We let them set that the number of times you
can transfer. Right now. You know, some of these athletes
are transferreding, you know, four or five, six times, and
what we're saying is you're going to get one transfer
under this, allow them to get one transfer. And then
(24:15):
we also put in there this sort of salary cap
concept which every sports organization have. And I want to
thank you, Clay. I know you've been working on this
issue a ton with college, with conference commissioners, with athletic
directors and coaches. We're trying not to get too prescripted,
but we think this is the kind of bill that
makes sense, particularly after the big decision of the House decision.
(24:35):
And then finally there's a few more things where where
we talk about preempting state you can't have each state
setting up a standard and trying to outdo the other.
So that's part of the part of the legislation as well.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I've been working on this, you know, because I just
think it's important to have a standard set of rules
that everybody. I love college athletics, that people out there
understand this. What is the likely because some people are
going to say, well, Congress, I mean, it's hard to
get anything passed. You mentioned that there's bipartisan recognition that
this is a mess, and I think anyone who is
a college sports fan is nodding along. It is a
(25:07):
mess right now. It's a it's a broken, you know,
sort of haphazard system in place. Coaches, players, parents, certainly, administrators, everybody.
What do you think the chances are that this passes?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I know, and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'll let you kind of dive in that. President Trump
has been supportive of trying to get this fixed as well,
because he's a big college sports fan. What's the timeframe?
What does that look like as you assess.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Well, I think there's a there's a good chance that
we can't get a pass. I mean, we've got Samari Figures,
a new member from the Gratia of Alabama as a Democrat,
we got to buying.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Them from Washington.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
So we got already some Democrats signing on. We think
more will do it, and I think it's just a
recognition that I use example, I think the top college
wrestling recruit this year is a young man out of
Pittsburgh area, and I think the rumors are he's getting
like five hundred thousand dollars. So if the top wrestler
is getting that, imagine what the quarterbacks are getting to
(26:00):
go to these top notch big ten SEC universities. I mean,
it's a ton of money. There needs to be something done,
and everyone understands that. And so I think when you
have coaches and college presidents and athletic directors and conference
commissioners begin to talk to members of Congress and say
we need something that gives some framework to college sports,
(26:23):
something we all love, I think there's a good chance
we get to kind of bipartisan support that you don't
see a whole lot of these days in Congress. But
when it comes to college sports, I think you can
get it, and we'll get something done that I think
will be helpful to student athletes and helpful to college
sports in general, You've been.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
One of the biggest and foremost defenders of Trump for
ten years. I mentioned the President Trump obviously is a
huge sports fan. He's talking about having a UFC fight
on the White House lawn, which would be amazing.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I bet you'll be there. I'd like to be there.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
You and I were together at the NCAA Wrestling Championships
in Philadelphia. You just referenced that when you look at
Trump two point zero and the first six months of
Trump two point zero and you compare it to Trump
one point zero, how much different difference is there? And
are you blown away, like both Buck and myself are
(27:13):
at the President's energy and just the efficiency with which
they have attacked this new term.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Yeah, And I mean it's he's got his team in
place around him in his key, you know, agencies, cabinet secretaries,
and they're just amazing. And you just look at the
last the attack on I ran was and taking out
their new cook capabilities was so successful. He goes to NATO,
gets them to and he up more money.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So successful.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
It's the big beautiful Bill Pass so successful, the best
border security we've had in who knows our lifetime, probably,
And you can just keep going. All the things he's
got done, It's truly amazing. And his energy. I called
him last night and then I actually went to bed
and I woke up this morning and so where I
had a misscall. He called me after eleven last night
(27:57):
and then and you know, he was up early this morning.
Where them the phones. I mean, that's just the kind
of energy has he loved the country. One of the
things I always say about him is he speaking of sports,
he totally thinks like an athlete. He hates to lose.
He despises losing, which is a great quality. I tell people,
it's an American quality, and it's certainly a character trait
(28:18):
that you want in your commander in chief, in your president,
and President Trump just has it. So yeah. I mean,
he's off to an amazing start, and I think it's
just going to continue to be good things that happen
to the country.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yesterday we mentioned the idea of primetime hearings surrounding the
Joe Biden cover up. I know you paid attention the
doctor took the Fifth Amendment.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yesterday we led the show talking about that.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is there any momentum to really kind of put people
under the spotlight of a major national hearing, much like
occurred with the Jan six primetime hearings that Democrats did.
And if I remember correctly the summer of twenty two
or thereabouts, what kind of momentum, if any, might there
be for something such as that.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah, I think I think that option is certainly on
the table. Uh with with Chair Macomber, there's some things
we're looking at, uh in slightly different areas on on
the Judiciary Committee. Uh, specifically with the you know, sort
of the auto pen doctor all that, all that stuff.
With with Joe Biden, I really think that it would
be maybe the best thing is if you had a
whistleblower come for I don't know if we're ever going
(29:24):
to get that, but that that to me seems what
we need to really say. Yes, there there wasn't really
uh Joe Biden given the okay on this as as
other people, but that'll take a whistleblower coming forward to
talk about that. Short of that, I think it's tough
to ever prove it. But that doesn't mean you don't
have hearings to just highlight how how we now you know,
we we all thought at the time, but how we
know how just how bad it was when when when
(29:46):
President Biden was in there and his his inability I
think to to truly handle the task at hand.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Last question for you, Congressman, appreciate all the time, you know,
I think decently Cash, Patel and Dan bond I know
there's a huge flare up. Buck and I have been
talking about this all week as to what might or
might not be in the Epstein files, all those things
what And You're not involved in the Department of Justice investigation,
so I'm not asking you about that, But what confidence
do you have based on your knowledge of the team
(30:17):
in Cash Ptel and Dan Bongino running the FBI.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I got complete confidence, complete confidence in them and Pam
Bondi and Todd blanche over at the Attorney General deput
Attorney General the just nine day compared to what we
have with Garland and Ray and that's that crowd. So
no complete confidence. And the latest investigation they've announced in
the Comy and Brennan that that has been reported, I mean,
I think this is critically important because never forget what
(30:43):
happened with Comy and Brennan and Clapper and these guys
in twenty sixteen, President Trump wins, and after election day,
but before inauguration day, they all go up to Trump Tower,
New York and they brief him on the dossier. Knowing
at the time the dossier was BS. They brief him
on it so they can leak to the press and
give it and therefore give it some kind of credibility.
(31:04):
That's how low they went to go after President Trump.
And now Director Ratcliffe has people who are saying, oh,
this dossier. Guys are saying what Brennan said in testimony
to Congress was contradicted by what they did. So I
do think that investigation is critically important.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Awesome, appreciate the time, Congressman. Have a good weekend. I
know we're not quite there, and keep us updated. Come
back on whenever you want.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
We will take care plaise.
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Speaker 1 (32:53):
All right, welcome back to John. All right, whatever that's
supposed to be. You supposed to be me who knows
close enough, Chopin and clan Buck. But Clay, I was
gonna let you set this up because you asked me
about this plain etiquette stuff, which I think is unfortunately,
maybe I'm just I'm just old and grumpy now, which
is probably true irrespective of how this conversation goes. I
(33:15):
think that etiquette in public places is on a steady decline,
and I think increasingly the barbarians feel like they can
act poorly and then then be outraged and intimidate people
when anyone tries to say, hey, can you actually be
considerate and respectful of those around you. The best example
of this is I really think that the speakerphone conversation
(33:39):
and public people are winning right now, like that they
should be losing. They should be if we were in
you know, ancient times, like they would be ostracized from
our city, state, like they should be banished forthwith, And
yet they increasingly are like, what what, it's just like
having a conversation. It's not just like having a conversation. Actually,
you're shouting and we're all here, this mechanical voice coming out. Okay,
(34:03):
So anyway, I could go on this stuff all day,
but tell me the situation of the plane the plane
line cutting lady, that's getting so much attention right.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's gone megaviral and I don't know if we have
a short segment of the conversation, but I think it
went megaviral because to your point, there is no sort
of common behavior. And I would say, on an airplane,
and everybody who's ever been on an airplane at some
point in time, you probably have experienced this. The plane lands, okay,
(34:35):
you're allowed to stand up people who try to rush
past you and gain like five rows in overall exiting
of the airplane earnestness. You get out faster if you
don't have a flight that you have to rush to,
And if you do, you're being like, hey, I'm so sorry.
(34:57):
My flight is going to take off in ten minutes.
The flight's the lake. Could I please go pass? And
you can talk to people around you in advance, and
you can. Everybody kind of gets a sense for that.
Sometimes even the flight attendants will say, hey, when everybody
stay seated, we've got a few people who have to
get to a flight that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But jumping people is infuriating. Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
If you are listening to us, do not walk in
front of people in the rows in front of you.
It is a savage, indefensible move. But for the limited
exception I said, where.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
You're trying to swush to catch a flight, there's not
enough room for everyone to take down their overhead luggage,
so people wait, and there's not enough room for everyone
to stand in the aisle, so you have to be
orderly and civilized and allow the people ahead of you
to go.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know, I've seen both nsis.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Recently, I was running laid for a flight and I
asked a couple of very kind people if I could
cut them in the security line. But I showed them
my ticket and they're like, you are going to miss
your flight, like you gotta get your button gear. And
then it's funny because a week later sending up to
some guys showed me and I'm like, yeah, of course
you can cut me in the line or you know whatever,
and everyone in the line let him go because you
could prove that there's a need. Same thing with the connection.
(36:09):
If somebody has a connection they have to get We're
all cool with that, but I'm you know, this is
not nom There are rules, like I don't know why
people can't act like their civilized when they're on planes.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
It drives It drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Don't skip just like when you're waiting in line for
a roller coaster. If you actually like fun, Unlike Buck,
don't cut people in the roller coaster line.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Producer Ali says.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
When you're leaving church, don't skip the pew in front
of you, don't jump in line and communion. Just behave
like a decent civilized human being. Wait your turn when
the plane lands. Making America better and more considerate every
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