July 22, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into a dynamic mix of political commentary, breaking news, and exclusive interviews, delivering sharp insights and bold opinions that define the program’s signature style.
The hour opens with updates on the Trump-Russia hoax, ICE enforcement activity, and speculation around new Epstein files, including the potential for Ghislaine Maxwell to speak publicly. The conversation quickly pivots to Hunter Biden, whose recent podcast clips spark intense debate. Clay and Buck analyze Hunter’s detailed knowledge of drug use, his controversial public persona, and the possibility that he’s positioning himself for a 2028 presidential run. They explore his political ambitions, past conflicts with his ex-wife, and the broader implications of his media appearances, with commentary from Miranda Devine and criticism from Pod Save America hosts.
A major highlight is an in-depth interview with Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska, who discusses the transformative impact of the “Big Beautiful Bill” under the Trump administration. Sullivan contrasts the pro-energy, pro-development policies of Trump with the restrictive executive actions under Biden, emphasizing how the bill unlocks Alaska’s vast natural resources, mandates regular lease sales, and includes permitting reform to accelerate energy projects. He also critiques Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for obstructing confirmations and legislation, and addresses the confusion and manipulation surrounding ranked-choice voting in Alaska.
The hour wraps with a lighthearted invitation from Senator Sullivan for Clay and Buck to broadcast from Alaska, showcasing the state’s energy potential and natural beauty.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Third hour kicks off.
Now we've got some updates on the Trump discussion of
the Russia hoax, Immigration and Customs Enforcement doing their thing.
A lot going on there, some updates on Epstein files
we could dive into, or will we see more files?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Really?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Will they show us more information? The House looking like
they're not going to vote on that. But there was
a possibility of Glenn Maxwell speaking. She is, remember, the
co conspirator along with Jeffrey Epstein, who is serving a
very long sentence for trafficking sex, trafficking miners. And so
(00:41):
we have all those stories to keep in mind here.
But I did want to kick us off in this
third hour with something that I wasn't really expecting. But
here we are. Yesterday, my esteemed perhaps even revered by
some mister Clay Travis was just he was, I thought,
(01:03):
just talking some crazy talk. You know, Clay likes to do,
he likes to throw, he likes to throw forty yards downfield,
double coverage. You know, he's not a shy guy, and
he's saying this stuff about how he thinks Hunter Biden. Now,
the Hunter Biden podcast clips that are circulating are pretty
interesting a Hunter is. I don't know if he ever
got a master's in chemistry, but he certainly knows a
(01:25):
lot about freebasing, and he talks about how to make
your own crack. Actually, so I don't even know what
freebasing is. I just know it's a way you get drugs.
But Hunter knows the down to the molecular structure. He
knows the differences in these drugs. Is impressive to hear
such a knowledge coming out from Hunter Biden on this stuff.
(01:47):
And Clay said that he thinks that Hunter sees this.
I just think Hunter wants attention. He's used to people
caring about what he thinks because it was all one
big influence peddling operation with Daddy at the top. But
now the daddy's got dementia, Hunter's got to step in
and become the Biden brand, such as it is. Miranda
(02:08):
Devine another esteemed friend and colleague. Here she is talking
on her podcast and she, believe it or not, agrees
with Clay it's crazy talk play one.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
My question is what is he selling. He doesn't have
a book out. I think it's more than just trying
to sort of rectify wrongs on behalf of his father,
because Hunter Biden is really all about himself, and so
I actually think that this is his audition to run
for president in twenty twenty eight. And he's always had
(02:44):
political ambitions. He had actually a fight with his wife,
first wife, Kathleen, that she recounts in her memoir. He
recounted in his memoir, and he also talked about on
the laptop. He was very angry with Kathleen because he
expressed a desire to go into politics, and she scoffed
(03:05):
at him and said, don't be ridiculous. You couldn't do that.
You've just been drummed out of the Navy because of cocaine.
So he was I felt that she didn't believe in him.
But others of his friends had told me that he
has a really strong political ambition, and I think he
wants to capitalize on the Biden name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
He's got nothing else. Clay, this is to me still
my brain. This is so crazy that I think it's
too crazy for Hunter Biden even But maybe that's not
a thing I would I would offer this up. It
is so crazy. But the Democrat Party is in such
a decrepit and free fall state right now that I
(03:51):
guess anything is possible. Is that where we are is
that really didn't know. There's a difference between he could
run and win a nomination every mind in a contest,
but that he would even consider running in the state
of the Democrat Party, to me seems insane beyond words.
You and Miranda do both think that's what he thinks
he's doing. If you have been.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Coddled to the point where you've been told that you're
a great artist and your artwork should sell for tens
of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of dollars a painting.
If you have been told by your dad that you
are the smartest man that he's ever known. If you
wrote an entire book about your drug addiction that was
(04:36):
entered into evidence to prove.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That you were a felon.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
If you documented every single thing that you did with
drugs and hookers on a laptop, went to go get
it fixed, and left the laptop behind, and by and
large there were never any consequences for the choices that
you made. And you had been told that you were
an elite intellect worthy of carrying on the Biden name,
(05:07):
and you would come to believe it all, what would
be the next thing that you would do. He's going
to run for president of the United States. Now, it's
the only thing that makes sense to me about why
he's doing all these interviews. Joe Biden isn't doing interviews.
If there were an ability for Joe Biden to do interviews,
maybe he would. Tends to be the case that presidents
(05:29):
kind of vanish for a little while and don't do
much media when they leave office. That tends to be
the general trend. Let the next person kind of come in.
But all of this adds up to Hunter thinks he's
gonna run.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I think a lot of Democrats are going to say, no, no, no.
The last thing we want to deal with is having
to acknowledge the sins of the Biden administration and all
of the lies that we told associated with him. Even
I think we have the audio. He went after George Klooney,
he went after Nancy Pelosi, he went after the Axel
(06:05):
Rod Pluff, and also even the Pod Save America Bros.
And now the Pod Save America Bros. Are returning fire
at him. I actually think all this does is in
some ways elevate Hunter Biden in his mind. I think
we have audio in pod Save America bros. By the way,
let's play this because now they're willing to say, oh,
(06:27):
Hunter Biden never should have gotten any of these gigs totally.
He was getting paid because of who his dad was,
but only in the wake of.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This, which is what we've been telling you for years.
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Cut when it comes to the attacks on Hunter himself,
like Okay, let's just what if we just stipulate for
the hypothetical, like, yes, okay, all your business dealings were
above board and legal. All your paintings were purchased by
art lovers who loved the product.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And didn't know your name.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Trump is worse. You were on the board of Barisma
because of who your dad is, and that is what
people hate about Washington, and it was part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
One thing we know is that Hunter Biden, throughout Joe
Biden's presidency, was a terrible liability for him, and put
the addiction aside. It is because he was on Barisma,
because he became an artist, because he was part of
a kind of like sleazy Washington. As Tommy said, people
hated you were a liability. You should be ashamed of
the ways in which you made your father's political life worse,
(07:22):
and like the idea that we're going to listen to
you now, like give me a breaks ridiculous Clay.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
They sound like they could have been on the Clay
and Buck Show as guests for about the four years
of Biden's actual presidency. But now they say it. So,
this is what I wanted to get into Hunter as
a guy who just wants attention. For sure. Yes, and
that goes to the coddling. Does you really think he
has a lane? I think the Biden name in uh in,
(07:48):
the Biden name in Democrats circles is toxic.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think that Biden isn't something that commands any respect.
I think Biden's viewed as a liability and a loser
among Democrats. Agree or disagree, I think that's true. The
question is does that puncture Hunter's expected value of himself
to such an extent that he's got the self awareness
(08:13):
to say I don't have the skill set to be
able to do this or the record that would suggest
I can run for president. He would be like the
the the former crack using version of the guy from succession.
You know, the oldest brother Colm isn't his name? Who
wants to run on like some libertarian ish ticket, and
(08:35):
he's very excited because in a poll he's at one
percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Right, he's one of the all time great one of
the all time great lines. I'm worried this might hurt
me in the polls. One of the other guys says,
how do you go down from one percent? Like one
of the one of the all It's not Hans, but
his name is escaping me right now. Succession is an
amazing dark television comedy that I love, and yes, the
(09:01):
oldest son kind of runs his sort of the libertarian
candidate for president and is able to get around one percent.
By the way, I don't think we played this cut either.
This is the pod Save America Bros. This is the
left wing establishment now saying hey Hunter, you're not the victim.
This is different, I think than the one we just
(09:22):
played right cut too.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Seeing this today, I guess what I wanted. If I
was in a room with him and able to talk rationally,
I would just be like, hey, man, look around the world,
look at what's happening in this country right now. Like,
I know you're angry personally, but you're not the victim here.
We're all living with what happened in this election, and.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You got a pardon. You're fine.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Utter lack of self awareness. You know who, Hunter Biden.
I was watching this interview and I thought to myself,
you know who. He kind of reminds me of one
of the last residents of Buck Island. In fact, listen
to cut five, Hunter Biden, he might have had some
beachfront real estate on Buck Island. Listen, minus the F bombs,
he could be talking like Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Cut five.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I will tell you why we lost the last election.
We lost the last election because we did not remain
loyal to the leader of the party. That's my position.
We had the advantage of incumbency, we had the advantage
of an incredibly successful administration, and the Democratic Party literally
melted down.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Now, I don't think that's going to have a hearty value. God,
you might be kissing cousin, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's look, I think his analysis of this one may
be pretty astute, because that was what they did was insane.
I don't think the Democrats could have had a worse
result in this election than they did. Realistically, I don't
really think given the American electorate, it was possible for
that had them to have a much worse result. People
were saying, oh, Biden was dropping, dropping, dropping. If they
(10:53):
had if they had gone behind him rather if they
had rallied behind him, and if he had had a
decent showing and another debate where they put them you know,
they put the right drugs into Joe, then I think
he might have pulled it off. By the way, I'm
just making sure this is correct. I think this is
breaking news right now. Do we have guys check on this.
(11:15):
Do we have any breaking news on with with Jerome
Powell resigning? Is that happening? I gotta I gotta check
on this one. This is the problem with Big Live Live.
As I go to.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Break, let me give you this and we'll go check
on the absolute latest they thought, by the way, and
I love that this is what they thought that you
were checking on. This is obviously not good news. But
Ozzy Osbourne, seventy six year old rocker has died. And
in my ear, as you're like I'm checking that, I
was like, there's no way Buck is triple checking to
see what the health of Ozzy Osbourne is. Let me
(11:49):
read this to you. We'll come back with the latest news.
Gavin Newsom right now, according to the gambling markets, is
the favorite to be the nominee AOC second mayor, third,
Pennsylvania Governor, Josh Shapiro, fourth, Wesmore, fifth, Kamala Harris, all
the way down to sixth, Andy Basheer. We've been talking
(12:09):
about the state of Kentucky and the way they responded
to Louisville. A bunch of you want to weigh in
on that, all the way down at seventh. My point
on all of this is, do any of those names
strike you as any more ridiculous than Jerome Powell?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We have we have breaking We have the breaking news here.
Jerome Powell has resigned, effective today. Immediately. He's got an email,
He's got rather a letter out with his resignation on it.
After much reflection, I've decided to resign from my position
as Chair of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve,
effective at the close of business today, July twenty second,
twenty twenty five. YadA, YadA. I believe new leadership is needed.
(12:45):
I'm man confident. Jerome Powell, Federal Reserve Chair. He just resigned.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Interesting that is a surprise, because the talk had been
would Trump force him out. Trump had been trying to
put more and more pressure on him. Stock market enterly
has so far not moved substantially about this at at all.
I'm looking right now as we speak, because there have
(13:12):
been talk the experts had said, hey, if Jerme Powell
steps down, the stock market is going to move substantially.
And I suppose it's possible that the traders have not
adjusted to it yet because this is just legitimately breaking
news but virtually no impact whatsoever on stock prices.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We'll get you the latest on that.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It is fairly consequential, and we'll bring you back and
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Speaker 1 (14:37):
All right, my bad, Clay, Let me just jump in
and say my bad. Jerome pal has not resigned. Uh,
sorry about that. Everybody false alarm on that. Unfortunately, it
is confirmed Ozzy Osborne has passed away, a rock legend.
So that is breaking news that just happened. He is
dead at seventy six years old. Rest in peace. But
the breaking news, which was shared by members of Congress
(14:58):
as well as other large accounts online based on what
seems to be an AI created Jerome Powell letter of resignation. Uh,
that is fake news. And we've told you about this before.
It's gonna keep happening, especially with a lot of things
that Trump, for example, puts out on truth social It's
very easy to AI or even just a sort of photoshop,
(15:20):
a fake one, and they get out there. But yeah,
I know that Jerome Powell has not resigned. He's expected
still to finish out whatever it is, the eight months
he's got left. And so that that was fa that's
that's a fake news AI job right there. I should
have waited to the commercial break, but I thought I
thought I could trust our members of Congress. That was
a mistake.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Look, the stock market didn't move, So I was like, well,
that's interesting. I like that you went right to here,
Clay went right to like, how is this affecting the
bottom line?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know he's not messing around.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean, I want to know how the markets are
reacting to almost any any news, and so I thought
it was strange that there wouldn't be a reaction in
some way. But I do think, look, we're gonna do
our best. We'll correct it. We're wrong live radio in
an AI age, there is going to be tons of
different stories that spread rapidly and actually don't have that
(16:14):
don't end up being true. So I think this is
a good lesson for everybody. We're gonna do our best.
We'll mess up again, because on live radio there's news
breaking all the time. But for everybody out there, keep
your heads on a swivel and and understand that at
any point in time you have to be careful about
what is getting shared and what is circulating rapidly. A
(16:35):
lot of people are deleting what had begun to go
megaviral on social media. Somebody went through the trouble of creating.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
A very authentic looking It didn't have at the bottom
of it like something.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know, and like no, it looked like a letter
that would be out if Jerome Powell had stepped down.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
By the way, this is breaking news.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Trump has just posted a letter where he says that
CBS has now paid the sixteen million dollars settlement to him,
and on top of the sixteen million dollar settlement, there
is a twenty million dollars in ads that there are
going to be run as well, which are beneficial for him,
(17:20):
and twenty million dollars more in advertising PSAs or similar programming,
for a total of over thirty six million dollars. He
says it's a big victory over CBS News, And in
conjunction with that, the Colbert fallout continues as they try
to make Stephen Colbert A martyr. I watched some of
(17:42):
the clips from last night's show on Colbert as they
were circulating this morning, and it will be intriguing to
see how that goes filling.
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Speaker 4 (18:55):
Senator Sullivan of Alaska is going to join us talk
about the Big Beautiful Bill. Also, I would imagine, Senator
you are eager to get back to Alaska so you
can start talking with everyone there about the impact of
the Big Beautiful Bill on many different fronts, including energy.
What's the difference between what the Trump administration is allowing
(19:19):
your state of Alaska to do with all the natural
resources there compared to what the Biden administration was doing
for your state.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
What is the impact, Jeez, clay Buck, that is the
greatest question. Great to be back on your show, and
that's the key question. And it's one hundred and ten
percent difference. The Democrats want to shut down Alaska. I
want to shut down American energy. President Trump and his
(19:47):
team want to unleash it and they're doing it everywhere.
This Big Beautiful Bill does it, especially with regard to Alaska.
But look to be more specific, during the four years
of the Biden administration, Alaska's know this. We suffered through
seventy that seven zero executive orders and executive action singularly
(20:09):
focused exclusively focused on shutting down Alaska's resource development economy,
and the President and his team are one hundred and
ten percent opposite. That's great for America, great for Alaska,
and really great for American workers.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Centaer, appreciate you being with us. What's going on in
the Senate right now. You guys still have some time
left here. You're about to go on recess. I hear
Schumer is up to Schumer shenanigans and blocking judges and
causing some problems for you guys. Bring us up to
speed with the business of the Senate as it stands
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Look, Buck, we had a really very productive first six
months with the President. I would say historic, and you
guys mentioned it. I'm getting ready to go home and
really really sell this one big, beautiful build. I don't
think there's any state that's fared better than Alaska, particularly
(21:04):
to their earlier questions on the American energy components. A
huge part of this bill is unlocking American energy, and
most of the bill is unlocking Alaska. You know, American
energy dominance runs through my great state. So I'm anxious
to get home to make the pitch to so many
Alaskans where they have a much better understanding how this
(21:27):
helps working families, our economy, our military, our Coastguard is
a home run. But to your question, Schumer, you know, look,
the guy is so afraid of his left wing right.
Every day wakes up scared to death that AOC is
going to primary him. So he is trying to fight
supposedly anything that we're trying to get done to move
(21:50):
forward with our government, certainly on legislation, but on nominees,
on basic you know, under secretary's assistant secretaries, people who
run our government, he blocks every way they can to
get their Senate confirmation. So we're going to start just
jamming down on these guys. We just had a meeting
(22:10):
of all our Senate Republican colleagues saying, hey, we need
to go morning, noon, and night to start getting the
president's nominees across the board. We've gotten zero cooperation from Schumer.
And usually you guys on the lower level nominees, if
it's an assistance secretary, you kind of put it in
a package to move something forward with several nominees. That's
(22:33):
very normal. We did it with Biden. They did it previously.
Schumer's not doing that. This is the most obstruction we've
seen from any Senate Minority leader on another administration's nominees,
literally since Herbert Hoover. The guy won't help us at all.
So we're gonna start jamming down on him.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We're talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. One of
the things that obviously is going to be a huge
topic of discussion next year is the House. And I
think we talked about this with you before, but the
ranked choice voting in Alaska seems to me to be
a complete mess. What is the latest on that. Do
you agree that it's a mess, And what are Alaskans
(23:16):
thinking after they were kind of I think bamboozled into
the idea in the first place.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Well, look, it's still on the ballot in Alaska, and
there's an outside group that put it on the ballot
a statewide initiative in twenty twenty The Republicans fought it.
I fought it. We tried to get it removed in
twenty twenty four. By the way, both times it passed
with less than one percent of the vote, and we
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were the groups against it. Republicans myself, we are outspent.
It's unbelievable, I don't know, twelve thirteen million by the
outside group's four ranked choice voting versus eighty thousand Publican party.
It's very confusing and it can be really, really manipulated.
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And the Democrats, in my view, particularly Schumer, who's already
been you know, I'm up for reelection this cycle as well.
We have a Congressman Nick Vegas. He's doing a great job,
but we'll have to run against that and look the
best way even with a system like that, which we
don't like. I don't like. It's confusing, it can be manipulated.
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Alaskans are still confused by it. Is to show what
we're getting done, and again, I want to come back
to this one big, beautiful bill for Alaska. This bill,
across every element of policy in our economy, is really
really strong, and what we're going to do is run
(24:50):
on our record, and I think for Alaska, this bill,
particularly as it relates to jobs in our economy and
the working class, is a home run.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What are the most important changes that Trump administration could
see through here from where things were under four years
of Biden On the issue of energy. I mean, obviously, Alaska,
a very important energy production state, affects your economy. It
really affects America in the global economy too. You guys
have a lot of stuff up there. What needs to
happen or what are some of the concrete things that
(25:21):
Trump can do so that we take drill, baby drill
to the next level.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Yeah, well, we've done it in this bill, and the
President did it literally day one. You guys might recall
one of the president's first executive orders about a couple
hours after he was inaugurated, was this executive Order on
Unleashing Alaska's Extraordinary resource Potential. I work directly with the
(25:47):
President and his team on this to unleash Alaska. Where
the only state in the country that has our own
executive order. So what that executive order did was it said, hey,
reverse pretty much all the seventy executive orders that Biden
issued to shut down Alaska. So that that was good,
(26:08):
But the big beautiful Bill is even better because what
we did is that we put a lot of those
reversals into law, and that's just obviously much stronger in
terms of what you know, God forbid, we have a
Democrat administration four years from now. I certainly hope we don't,
but if that administration tries to come in and shut
down Alaska, they're not going to be able to do
(26:30):
it because let me give you a couple examples. On
the one big beautiful bill, we open the Anwar, the
National Patrolum Reserve of Alaska, the cook Inlet Region. These
are all federal lands that have huge resources, and we
mandate in this bill regular lease sales that Biden would
(26:55):
never do, that Democrats would never do in the law.
So it says, hey, energy company can come up, they
get regularly sales on all of these really really important
federal lands. As you guys mentioned, Alaska has so much
oil and gas, so many critical minerals. And then really importantly,
we got a permitting reform provision into one big beautiful
(27:18):
bill that will help expedite the permitting of these projects.
One of our greatest challenges the Dems love to abuse it,
is having a permitting system. It takes ten to fifteen
to twenty years to permit a resource development project. It
kills our competitiveness. It's really hard for long term investors
(27:39):
to invest in Alaska when they have these permitting issues
and we got permitting reform done in this one big,
beautiful bill as well to expedite these projects, get them
online quickly. That's a part of the bill. It hasn't
got a lot of attention. Great for Alaska, great for America.
So if you can get it in the law, which
is what we did on energy in this bill, it's
(28:01):
even better than the executive order that the President issued,
which we are really appreciative of. So it's the combo
of both. And he's got a great energy team, a
bunch of his cabinet. We're just up in Alaska recently.
I hosted them all over the state. It's going to
be very exciting times for Alaska and resource development. By
the way, we'd love to have you guys, Clay buck
(28:22):
up up to our state. We can do a program
from Alaska. I think I talked about that last time
I was on it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm can we get as long as we get yeah,
I as long as we can get Clay close to
some grizzly bears, he's going to be excited. He likes
to get real close though, Senator, you know he wants
to see them.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Clay.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I will bring you close, man. There's great fishing going
on in our great state right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's just it's the place to be.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
But we really need to do that. Remember last time,
last time I was on the show, we talked about
you guys all coming up. You got a lot of
listeners in Alaska, huge fans, and we can do it.
You guys would have a ball.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I am sold on this idea.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
In fact, I was talking to my wife downstairs right
during the last commercial break.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
She was like, Hey, what you got going on.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I said, hey, we've got one of the senators from
Alaska going Neither she nor I have ever been to Alaska.
It is on the top of the list, and she said, well,
we've got to go up to Alaska. So I know
we have some good affiliates up there. You guys can
reach out. Let's see if we can get this set up.
I want to make the trip. I've been wanting to
visit for a long time, Senator, So maybe we can
get this thing worked out where we can come up
(29:27):
and do broadcast, or one of us can at least,
and that would be me, and we'll see whether Buck
can make it too.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
But you come up with your wife, Buck, you come
up with your family and here's what we'll do. We'll
do the one big Beautiful Bill tour, because look, there
is so many good things in this bill for the country,
but for the great state of Alaska. I could do
a program with you guys for three hours. And what
we're trying to do now, you know the way the
(29:55):
Democrats work. Schumer has spent his far left dark money groups.
It's meant, I mean, believe it or not, up close
to two million bucks running negative ads against me and
this bill and how it's horrible.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's not.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
They're all false ads. So what we're doing is we're
trying to make the case all over the state. But heck,
we could do a one big beautiful clay Buck tour.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I don't hate I don't hate this idea at
Allome And.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
I'm telling you, man, you guys would love it. Bring
your family, we'd have a blast, and we'd we'd get
the word out right because people want to hear the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I love this. We'll talk of the bucks.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Got a three month old, so traveling all the way
from Miami to Alaska a bit of a trip, so
he might not be able to do it, but we will.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I want to come up there and we'll come up.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
For the show for sure, and and help you out
with this process and and fu sure Greg is making
fun of me and saying maybe I could swim from
Alaska to Russia because I said I could swim from
Alcatraz to the sat.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's after you do the Alcatraz swim. The bearing straight
swim is the that's the pro challenging.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Send it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We appreciate the time.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Okay, guys, good to be back on the show. And
thanks for your great work.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Thank you appreciate it. I will say Clay Alaska in
the summer, which is when I went there. Maybe, Yeah,
I went Kenai Peninsula fishing with my dad and my brothers.
One of the most in terms of natural beauty, one
of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. I mean,
if you like the cold, crisp weather beauty, it's it's amazing.
I mean, I have to go. And my wife Laura,
(31:26):
I'm not kidding. We were just talking about this and
how we want to add it to the list. So
maybe we make that happen in the meantime.
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a lot of different reactions. Let me pull up the
absolute latest. This is Gary in chesap peak, Virgina. What
you got for is reacting to the Hunter Biden audio
(34:38):
as we were playing at earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, clayon, but great, be on with y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Appreciate you, and I would.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And I would like say, Buck, I think Clay's on
the sum here because when he broke the situation with
Hunter Biden, I can see Hunter Biden dressed in a
suit to the nines, hair slicked back, crack pipe in
his mouth, point in the mirror saying you're the man, thank.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
You, thank you for the call. I think I'm not
saying it's sane. I'm just saying Hunter Biden sees himself
as the avenging archangel of the Biden crime family, and
he believes that there is a bigger market for him
than there is because of all the lies that he
has been told.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
So the I mean, I can co sign on all that.
The place where I just don't see it is the
actual affirmative step of announcing that he's running for anything.
But announcing that he's running is in and of itself
just a way to get attention, and a lot of
people do that. So I'm thinking you are less crazy.
We both agree it's an insane idea from a rational
(35:42):
person's perspective, but I thought it was insane to even
believe that a Hunter would take the affirmative step of running.
I think it's less insane. Now I'm a little I'm
a little worried I might have to say you were
right on this one eventually, which you know that that
just that bums me, so hopefully well.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I think it could tie in with your argument out there,
which I don't think is a crazy argument. Which is
even Asa Hutchinson didn't have anything that bad come from
running for president. Even if you get smoked running for president,
you still get to charge more to speak or do
whatever your books.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's just free media. It's just free media. So but
for Hunter Biden, you would say, well, he's gonna get
completely chewed up by the machinery if he does try
to run, because I think Democrats se him his liability.
But he's kind of been chewed up so much is
there anything left to chew really?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I mean, you know, when you're noted as a crackhead
who broke up your brother's wife's wedding, right, I mean,
this guy has done everything awful already and we all know.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think he thinks he's gonna run
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Third hour kicks off.
Now we've got some updates on the Trump discussion of
the Russia hoax, Immigration and Customs Enforcement doing their thing.
A lot going on there, some updates on Epstein files
we could dive into, or will we see more files?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Really?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Will they show us more information? The House looking like
they're not going to vote on that. But there was
a possibility of Glenn Maxwell speaking. She is, remember, the
co conspirator along with Jeffrey Epstein, who is serving a
very long sentence for trafficking sex, trafficking miners. And so
(00:41):
we have all those stories to keep in mind here.
But I did want to kick us off in this
third hour with something that I wasn't really expecting. But
here we are. Yesterday, my esteemed perhaps even revered by
some mister Clay Travis was just he was, I thought,
(01:03):
just talking some crazy talk. You know, Clay likes to do,
he likes to throw, he likes to throw forty yards downfield,
double coverage. You know, he's not a shy guy, and
he's saying this stuff about how he thinks Hunter Biden. Now,
the Hunter Biden podcast clips that are circulating are pretty
interesting a Hunter is. I don't know if he ever
got a master's in chemistry, but he certainly knows a
(01:25):
lot about freebasing, and he talks about how to make
your own crack. Actually, so I don't even know what
freebasing is. I just know it's a way you get drugs.
But Hunter knows the down to the molecular structure. He
knows the differences in these drugs. Is impressive to hear
such a knowledge coming out from Hunter Biden on this stuff.
(01:47):
And Clay said that he thinks that Hunter sees this.
I just think Hunter wants attention. He's used to people
caring about what he thinks because it was all one
big influence peddling operation with Daddy at the top. But
now the daddy's got dementia, Hunter's got to step in
and become the Biden brand, such as it is. Miranda
(02:08):
Devine another esteemed friend and colleague. Here she is talking
on her podcast and she, believe it or not, agrees
with Clay it's crazy talk play one.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
My question is what is he selling. He doesn't have
a book out. I think it's more than just trying
to sort of rectify wrongs on behalf of his father,
because Hunter Biden is really all about himself, and so
I actually think that this is his audition to run
for president in twenty twenty eight. And he's always had
(02:44):
political ambitions. He had actually a fight with his wife,
first wife, Kathleen, that she recounts in her memoir. He
recounted in his memoir, and he also talked about on
the laptop. He was very angry with Kathleen because he
expressed a desire to go into politics, and she scoffed
(03:05):
at him and said, don't be ridiculous. You couldn't do that.
You've just been drummed out of the Navy because of cocaine.
So he was I felt that she didn't believe in him.
But others of his friends had told me that he
has a really strong political ambition, and I think he
wants to capitalize on the Biden name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
He's got nothing else. Clay, this is to me still
my brain. This is so crazy that I think it's
too crazy for Hunter Biden even But maybe that's not
a thing I would I would offer this up. It
is so crazy. But the Democrat Party is in such
a decrepit and free fall state right now that I
(03:51):
guess anything is possible. Is that where we are is
that really didn't know. There's a difference between he could
run and win a nomination every mind in a contest,
but that he would even consider running in the state
of the Democrat Party, to me seems insane beyond words.
You and Miranda do both think that's what he thinks
he's doing. If you have been.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Coddled to the point where you've been told that you're
a great artist and your artwork should sell for tens
of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of dollars a painting.
If you have been told by your dad that you
are the smartest man that he's ever known. If you
wrote an entire book about your drug addiction that was
(04:36):
entered into evidence to prove.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That you were a felon.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
If you documented every single thing that you did with
drugs and hookers on a laptop, went to go get
it fixed, and left the laptop behind, and by and
large there were never any consequences for the choices that
you made. And you had been told that you were
an elite intellect worthy of carrying on the Biden name,
(05:07):
and you would come to believe it all, what would
be the next thing that you would do. He's going
to run for president of the United States. Now, it's
the only thing that makes sense to me about why
he's doing all these interviews. Joe Biden isn't doing interviews.
If there were an ability for Joe Biden to do interviews,
maybe he would. Tends to be the case that presidents
(05:29):
kind of vanish for a little while and don't do
much media when they leave office. That tends to be
the general trend. Let the next person kind of come in.
But all of this adds up to Hunter thinks he's
gonna run.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I think a lot of Democrats are going to say, no, no, no.
The last thing we want to deal with is having
to acknowledge the sins of the Biden administration and all
of the lies that we told associated with him. Even
I think we have the audio. He went after George Klooney,
he went after Nancy Pelosi, he went after the Axel
(06:05):
Rod Pluff, and also even the Pod Save America Bros.
And now the Pod Save America Bros. Are returning fire
at him. I actually think all this does is in
some ways elevate Hunter Biden in his mind. I think
we have audio in pod Save America bros. By the way,
let's play this because now they're willing to say, oh,
(06:27):
Hunter Biden never should have gotten any of these gigs totally.
He was getting paid because of who his dad was,
but only in the wake of.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This, which is what we've been telling you for years.
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Cut when it comes to the attacks on Hunter himself,
like Okay, let's just what if we just stipulate for
the hypothetical, like, yes, okay, all your business dealings were
above board and legal. All your paintings were purchased by
art lovers who loved the product.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And didn't know your name.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Trump is worse. You were on the board of Barisma
because of who your dad is, and that is what
people hate about Washington, and it was part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
One thing we know is that Hunter Biden, throughout Joe
Biden's presidency, was a terrible liability for him, and put
the addiction aside. It is because he was on Barisma,
because he became an artist, because he was part of
a kind of like sleazy Washington. As Tommy said, people
hated you were a liability. You should be ashamed of
the ways in which you made your father's political life worse,
(07:22):
and like the idea that we're going to listen to
you now, like give me a breaks ridiculous Clay.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
They sound like they could have been on the Clay
and Buck Show as guests for about the four years
of Biden's actual presidency. But now they say it. So,
this is what I wanted to get into Hunter as
a guy who just wants attention. For sure. Yes, and
that goes to the coddling. Does you really think he
has a lane? I think the Biden name in uh in,
(07:48):
the Biden name in Democrats circles is toxic.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I think that Biden isn't something that commands any respect.
I think Biden's viewed as a liability and a loser
among Democrats. Agree or disagree, I think that's true. The
question is does that puncture Hunter's expected value of himself
to such an extent that he's got the self awareness
(08:13):
to say I don't have the skill set to be
able to do this or the record that would suggest
I can run for president. He would be like the
the the former crack using version of the guy from succession.
You know, the oldest brother Colm isn't his name? Who
wants to run on like some libertarian ish ticket, and
(08:35):
he's very excited because in a poll he's at one
percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Right, he's one of the all time great one of
the all time great lines. I'm worried this might hurt
me in the polls. One of the other guys says,
how do you go down from one percent? Like one
of the one of the all It's not Hans, but
his name is escaping me right now. Succession is an
amazing dark television comedy that I love, and yes, the
(09:01):
oldest son kind of runs his sort of the libertarian
candidate for president and is able to get around one percent.
By the way, I don't think we played this cut either.
This is the pod Save America Bros. This is the
left wing establishment now saying hey Hunter, you're not the victim.
This is different, I think than the one we just
(09:22):
played right cut too.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Seeing this today, I guess what I wanted. If I
was in a room with him and able to talk rationally,
I would just be like, hey, man, look around the world,
look at what's happening in this country right now. Like,
I know you're angry personally, but you're not the victim here.
We're all living with what happened in this election, and.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You got a pardon. You're fine.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Utter lack of self awareness. You know who, Hunter Biden.
I was watching this interview and I thought to myself,
you know who. He kind of reminds me of one
of the last residents of Buck Island. In fact, listen
to cut five, Hunter Biden, he might have had some
beachfront real estate on Buck Island. Listen, minus the F bombs,
he could be talking like Buck Sexton.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Cut five.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
I will tell you why we lost the last election.
We lost the last election because we did not remain
loyal to the leader of the party. That's my position.
We had the advantage of incumbency, we had the advantage
of an incredibly successful administration, and the Democratic Party literally
melted down.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Now, I don't think that's going to have a hearty value. God,
you might be kissing cousin, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's look, I think his analysis of this one may
be pretty astute, because that was what they did was insane.
I don't think the Democrats could have had a worse
result in this election than they did. Realistically, I don't
really think given the American electorate, it was possible for
that had them to have a much worse result. People
were saying, oh, Biden was dropping, dropping, dropping. If they
(10:53):
had if they had gone behind him rather if they
had rallied behind him, and if he had had a
decent showing and another debate where they put them you know,
they put the right drugs into Joe, then I think
he might have pulled it off. By the way, I'm
just making sure this is correct. I think this is
breaking news right now. Do we have guys check on this.
(11:15):
Do we have any breaking news on with with Jerome
Powell resigning? Is that happening? I gotta I gotta check
on this one. This is the problem with Big Live Live.
As I go to.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Break, let me give you this and we'll go check
on the absolute latest they thought, by the way, and
I love that this is what they thought that you
were checking on. This is obviously not good news. But
Ozzy Osbourne, seventy six year old rocker has died. And
in my ear, as you're like I'm checking that, I
was like, there's no way Buck is triple checking to
see what the health of Ozzy Osbourne is. Let me
(11:49):
read this to you. We'll come back with the latest news.
Gavin Newsom right now, according to the gambling markets, is
the favorite to be the nominee AOC second mayor, third,
Pennsylvania Governor, Josh Shapiro, fourth, Wesmore, fifth, Kamala Harris, all
the way down to sixth, Andy Basheer. We've been talking
(12:09):
about the state of Kentucky and the way they responded
to Louisville. A bunch of you want to weigh in
on that, all the way down at seventh. My point
on all of this is, do any of those names
strike you as any more ridiculous than Jerome Powell?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We have we have breaking We have the breaking news here.
Jerome Powell has resigned, effective today. Immediately. He's got an email,
He's got rather a letter out with his resignation on it.
After much reflection, I've decided to resign from my position
as Chair of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve,
effective at the close of business today, July twenty second,
twenty twenty five. YadA, YadA. I believe new leadership is needed.
(12:45):
I'm man confident. Jerome Powell, Federal Reserve Chair. He just resigned.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Interesting that is a surprise, because the talk had been
would Trump force him out. Trump had been trying to
put more and more pressure on him. Stock market enterly
has so far not moved substantially about this at at all.
I'm looking right now as we speak, because there have
(13:12):
been talk the experts had said, hey, if Jerme Powell
steps down, the stock market is going to move substantially.
And I suppose it's possible that the traders have not
adjusted to it yet because this is just legitimately breaking
news but virtually no impact whatsoever on stock prices.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We'll get you the latest on that.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It is fairly consequential, and we'll bring you back and
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Speaker 1 (14:37):
All right, my bad, Clay, Let me just jump in
and say my bad. Jerome pal has not resigned. Uh,
sorry about that. Everybody false alarm on that. Unfortunately, it
is confirmed Ozzy Osborne has passed away, a rock legend.
So that is breaking news that just happened. He is
dead at seventy six years old. Rest in peace. But
the breaking news, which was shared by members of Congress
(14:58):
as well as other large accounts online based on what
seems to be an AI created Jerome Powell letter of resignation. Uh,
that is fake news. And we've told you about this before.
It's gonna keep happening, especially with a lot of things
that Trump, for example, puts out on truth social It's
very easy to AI or even just a sort of photoshop,
(15:20):
a fake one, and they get out there. But yeah,
I know that Jerome Powell has not resigned. He's expected
still to finish out whatever it is, the eight months
he's got left. And so that that was fa that's
that's a fake news AI job right there. I should
have waited to the commercial break, but I thought I
thought I could trust our members of Congress. That was
a mistake.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Look, the stock market didn't move, So I was like, well,
that's interesting. I like that you went right to here,
Clay went right to like, how is this affecting the
bottom line?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know he's not messing around.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean, I want to know how the markets are
reacting to almost any any news, and so I thought
it was strange that there wouldn't be a reaction in
some way. But I do think, look, we're gonna do
our best. We'll correct it. We're wrong live radio in
an AI age, there is going to be tons of
different stories that spread rapidly and actually don't have that
(16:14):
don't end up being true. So I think this is
a good lesson for everybody. We're gonna do our best.
We'll mess up again, because on live radio there's news
breaking all the time. But for everybody out there, keep
your heads on a swivel and and understand that at
any point in time you have to be careful about
what is getting shared and what is circulating rapidly. A
(16:35):
lot of people are deleting what had begun to go
megaviral on social media. Somebody went through the trouble of creating.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
A very authentic looking It didn't have at the bottom
of it like something.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
You know, and like no, it looked like a letter
that would be out if Jerome Powell had stepped down.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
By the way, this is breaking news.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Trump has just posted a letter where he says that
CBS has now paid the sixteen million dollars settlement to him,
and on top of the sixteen million dollar settlement, there
is a twenty million dollars in ads that there are
going to be run as well, which are beneficial for him,
(17:20):
and twenty million dollars more in advertising PSAs or similar programming,
for a total of over thirty six million dollars. He
says it's a big victory over CBS News, And in
conjunction with that, the Colbert fallout continues as they try
to make Stephen Colbert A martyr. I watched some of
(17:42):
the clips from last night's show on Colbert as they
were circulating this morning, and it will be intriguing to
see how that goes filling.
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Senator Sullivan of Alaska is going to join us talk
about the Big Beautiful Bill. Also, I would imagine, Senator
you are eager to get back to Alaska so you
can start talking with everyone there about the impact of
the Big Beautiful Bill on many different fronts, including energy.
What's the difference between what the Trump administration is allowing
(19:19):
your state of Alaska to do with all the natural
resources there compared to what the Biden administration was doing
for your state.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
What is the impact, Jeez, clay Buck, that is the
greatest question. Great to be back on your show, and
that's the key question. And it's one hundred and ten
percent difference. The Democrats want to shut down Alaska. I
want to shut down American energy. President Trump and his
(19:47):
team want to unleash it and they're doing it everywhere.
This Big Beautiful Bill does it, especially with regard to Alaska.
But look to be more specific, during the four years
of the Biden administration, Alaska's know this. We suffered through
seventy that seven zero executive orders and executive action singularly
(20:09):
focused exclusively focused on shutting down Alaska's resource development economy,
and the President and his team are one hundred and
ten percent opposite. That's great for America, great for Alaska,
and really great for American workers.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Centaer, appreciate you being with us. What's going on in
the Senate right now. You guys still have some time
left here. You're about to go on recess. I hear
Schumer is up to Schumer shenanigans and blocking judges and
causing some problems for you guys. Bring us up to
speed with the business of the Senate as it stands
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Look, Buck, we had a really very productive first six
months with the President. I would say historic, and you
guys mentioned it. I'm getting ready to go home and
really really sell this one big, beautiful build. I don't
think there's any state that's fared better than Alaska, particularly
(21:04):
to their earlier questions on the American energy components. A
huge part of this bill is unlocking American energy, and
most of the bill is unlocking Alaska. You know, American
energy dominance runs through my great state. So I'm anxious
to get home to make the pitch to so many
Alaskans where they have a much better understanding how this
(21:27):
helps working families, our economy, our military, our Coastguard is
a home run. But to your question, Schumer, you know, look,
the guy is so afraid of his left wing right.
Every day wakes up scared to death that AOC is
going to primary him. So he is trying to fight
supposedly anything that we're trying to get done to move
(21:50):
forward with our government, certainly on legislation, but on nominees,
on basic you know, under secretary's assistant secretaries, people who
run our government, he blocks every way they can to
get their Senate confirmation. So we're going to start just
jamming down on these guys. We just had a meeting
(22:10):
of all our Senate Republican colleagues saying, hey, we need
to go morning, noon, and night to start getting the
president's nominees across the board. We've gotten zero cooperation from Schumer.
And usually you guys on the lower level nominees, if
it's an assistance secretary, you kind of put it in
a package to move something forward with several nominees. That's
(22:33):
very normal. We did it with Biden. They did it previously.
Schumer's not doing that. This is the most obstruction we've
seen from any Senate Minority leader on another administration's nominees,
literally since Herbert Hoover. The guy won't help us at all.
So we're gonna start jamming down on him.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
We're talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. One of
the things that obviously is going to be a huge
topic of discussion next year is the House. And I
think we talked about this with you before, but the
ranked choice voting in Alaska seems to me to be
a complete mess. What is the latest on that. Do
you agree that it's a mess, And what are Alaskans
(23:16):
thinking after they were kind of I think bamboozled into
the idea in the first place.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Well, look, it's still on the ballot in Alaska, and
there's an outside group that put it on the ballot
a statewide initiative in twenty twenty The Republicans fought it.
I fought it. We tried to get it removed in
twenty twenty four. By the way, both times it passed
with less than one percent of the vote, and we
(23:46):
were the groups against it. Republicans myself, we are outspent.
It's unbelievable, I don't know, twelve thirteen million by the
outside group's four ranked choice voting versus eighty thousand Publican party.
It's very confusing and it can be really, really manipulated.
(24:08):
And the Democrats, in my view, particularly Schumer, who's already
been you know, I'm up for reelection this cycle as well.
We have a Congressman Nick Vegas. He's doing a great job,
but we'll have to run against that and look the
best way even with a system like that, which we
don't like. I don't like. It's confusing, it can be manipulated.
(24:29):
Alaskans are still confused by it. Is to show what
we're getting done, and again, I want to come back
to this one big, beautiful bill for Alaska. This bill,
across every element of policy in our economy, is really
really strong, and what we're going to do is run
(24:50):
on our record, and I think for Alaska, this bill,
particularly as it relates to jobs in our economy and
the working class, is a home run.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What are the most important changes that Trump administration could
see through here from where things were under four years
of Biden On the issue of energy. I mean, obviously, Alaska,
a very important energy production state, affects your economy. It
really affects America in the global economy too. You guys
have a lot of stuff up there. What needs to
happen or what are some of the concrete things that
(25:21):
Trump can do so that we take drill, baby drill
to the next level.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Yeah, well, we've done it in this bill, and the
President did it literally day one. You guys might recall
one of the president's first executive orders about a couple
hours after he was inaugurated, was this executive Order on
Unleashing Alaska's Extraordinary resource Potential. I work directly with the
(25:47):
President and his team on this to unleash Alaska. Where
the only state in the country that has our own
executive order. So what that executive order did was it said, hey,
reverse pretty much all the seventy executive orders that Biden
issued to shut down Alaska. So that that was good,
(26:08):
But the big beautiful Bill is even better because what
we did is that we put a lot of those
reversals into law, and that's just obviously much stronger in
terms of what you know, God forbid, we have a
Democrat administration four years from now. I certainly hope we don't,
but if that administration tries to come in and shut
down Alaska, they're not going to be able to do
(26:30):
it because let me give you a couple examples. On
the one big beautiful bill, we open the Anwar, the
National Patrolum Reserve of Alaska, the cook Inlet Region. These
are all federal lands that have huge resources, and we
mandate in this bill regular lease sales that Biden would
(26:55):
never do, that Democrats would never do in the law.
So it says, hey, energy company can come up, they
get regularly sales on all of these really really important
federal lands. As you guys mentioned, Alaska has so much
oil and gas, so many critical minerals. And then really importantly,
we got a permitting reform provision into one big beautiful
(27:18):
bill that will help expedite the permitting of these projects.
One of our greatest challenges the Dems love to abuse it,
is having a permitting system. It takes ten to fifteen
to twenty years to permit a resource development project. It
kills our competitiveness. It's really hard for long term investors
(27:39):
to invest in Alaska when they have these permitting issues
and we got permitting reform done in this one big,
beautiful bill as well to expedite these projects, get them
online quickly. That's a part of the bill. It hasn't
got a lot of attention. Great for Alaska, great for America.
So if you can get it in the law, which
is what we did on energy in this bill, it's
(28:01):
even better than the executive order that the President issued,
which we are really appreciative of. So it's the combo
of both. And he's got a great energy team, a
bunch of his cabinet. We're just up in Alaska recently.
I hosted them all over the state. It's going to
be very exciting times for Alaska and resource development. By
the way, we'd love to have you guys, Clay buck
(28:22):
up up to our state. We can do a program
from Alaska. I think I talked about that last time
I was on it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm can we get as long as we get yeah,
I as long as we can get Clay close to
some grizzly bears, he's going to be excited. He likes
to get real close though, Senator, you know he wants
to see them.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Clay.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
I will bring you close, man. There's great fishing going
on in our great state right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's just it's the place to be.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
But we really need to do that. Remember last time,
last time I was on the show, we talked about
you guys all coming up. You got a lot of
listeners in Alaska, huge fans, and we can do it.
You guys would have a ball.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I am sold on this idea.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
In fact, I was talking to my wife downstairs right
during the last commercial break.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
She was like, Hey, what you got going on.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I said, hey, we've got one of the senators from
Alaska going Neither she nor I have ever been to Alaska.
It is on the top of the list, and she said, well,
we've got to go up to Alaska. So I know
we have some good affiliates up there. You guys can
reach out. Let's see if we can get this set up.
I want to make the trip. I've been wanting to
visit for a long time, Senator, So maybe we can
get this thing worked out where we can come up
(29:27):
and do broadcast, or one of us can at least,
and that would be me, and we'll see whether Buck
can make it too.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
But you come up with your wife, Buck, you come
up with your family and here's what we'll do. We'll
do the one big Beautiful Bill tour, because look, there
is so many good things in this bill for the country,
but for the great state of Alaska. I could do
a program with you guys for three hours. And what
we're trying to do now, you know the way the
(29:55):
Democrats work. Schumer has spent his far left dark money groups.
It's meant, I mean, believe it or not, up close
to two million bucks running negative ads against me and
this bill and how it's horrible.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's not.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
They're all false ads. So what we're doing is we're
trying to make the case all over the state. But heck,
we could do a one big beautiful clay Buck tour.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I don't hate I don't hate this idea at
Allome And.
Speaker 9 (30:23):
I'm telling you, man, you guys would love it. Bring
your family, we'd have a blast, and we'd we'd get
the word out right because people want to hear the truth.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I love this. We'll talk of the bucks.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Got a three month old, so traveling all the way
from Miami to Alaska a bit of a trip, so
he might not be able to do it, but we will.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I want to come up there and we'll come up.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
For the show for sure, and and help you out
with this process and and fu sure Greg is making
fun of me and saying maybe I could swim from
Alaska to Russia because I said I could swim from
Alcatraz to the sat.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's after you do the Alcatraz swim. The bearing straight
swim is the that's the pro challenging.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Send it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
We appreciate the time.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Okay, guys, good to be back on the show. And
thanks for your great work.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Thank you appreciate it. I will say Clay Alaska in
the summer, which is when I went there. Maybe, Yeah,
I went Kenai Peninsula fishing with my dad and my brothers.
One of the most in terms of natural beauty, one
of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. I mean,
if you like the cold, crisp weather beauty, it's it's amazing.
I mean, I have to go. And my wife Laura,
(31:26):
I'm not kidding. We were just talking about this and
how we want to add it to the list. So
maybe we make that happen in the meantime.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
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a lot of different reactions. Let me pull up the
absolute latest. This is Gary in chesap peak, Virgina. What
you got for is reacting to the Hunter Biden audio
(34:38):
as we were playing at earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, clayon, but great, be on with y'all.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Appreciate you, and I would.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And I would like say, Buck, I think Clay's on
the sum here because when he broke the situation with
Hunter Biden, I can see Hunter Biden dressed in a
suit to the nines, hair slicked back, crack pipe in
his mouth, point in the mirror saying you're the man, thank.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
You, thank you for the call. I think I'm not
saying it's sane. I'm just saying Hunter Biden sees himself
as the avenging archangel of the Biden crime family, and
he believes that there is a bigger market for him
than there is because of all the lies that he
has been told.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
So the I mean, I can co sign on all that.
The place where I just don't see it is the
actual affirmative step of announcing that he's running for anything.
But announcing that he's running is in and of itself
just a way to get attention, and a lot of
people do that. So I'm thinking you are less crazy.
We both agree it's an insane idea from a rational
(35:42):
person's perspective, but I thought it was insane to even
believe that a Hunter would take the affirmative step of running.
I think it's less insane. Now I'm a little I'm
a little worried I might have to say you were
right on this one eventually, which you know that that
just that bums me, so hopefully well.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I think it could tie in with your argument out there,
which I don't think is a crazy argument. Which is
even Asa Hutchinson didn't have anything that bad come from
running for president. Even if you get smoked running for president,
you still get to charge more to speak or do
whatever your books.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's just free media. It's just free media. So but
for Hunter Biden, you would say, well, he's gonna get
completely chewed up by the machinery if he does try
to run, because I think Democrats se him his liability.
But he's kind of been chewed up so much is
there anything left to chew really?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I mean, you know, when you're noted as a crackhead
who broke up your brother's wife's wedding, right, I mean,
this guy has done everything awful already and we all know.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I think he thinks he's gonna run
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