September 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a politically charged and emotionally resonant segment, blending Capitol Hill insights, cultural commentary, and reflections on leadership, patriotism, and civic engagement. This hour features exclusive interviews with Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin and Congressman House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, tackling the looming government shutdown, the ideological transformation of the Democratic Party, and the legacy of Charlie Kirk following his tragic death.
Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin does a deep dive into the budget impasse, blaming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer for obstructing a “clean CR” (Continuing Resolution) due to pressure from progressive challengers like AOC. Mullin outlines the shutdown’s impact on military pay, federal employees, and mandatory vs. discretionary spending, while criticizing continued COVID-era healthcare subsidies and Obamacare enrollment for undocumented immigrants—a $350 billion taxpayer burden, he claims.
The conversation shifts to broader political themes, with Mullin and Travis asserting that Donald Trump’s 2024 landslide victory was a rejection of socialism and far-left policies. They argue the Democratic Party is now led by figures like Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar, and Jasmine Crockett, and suffering an identity crisis. Mullin also praises military fitness standards, referencing Pete Seth’s call for accountability among generals, and shares his own leadership philosophy rooted in discipline and example-setting.
Congressman and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise joins the show to reflect on the Charlie Kirk shooting, drawing parallels to his own experience as a victim of political violence in 2017. Scalise emphasizes the importance of civil discourse, condemns cancel culture, and highlights the resilience of Turning Point USA, which has seen over 50,000 students express interest in launching chapters. He praises Erica Kirk’s commitment to continuing Charlie’s legacy and notes a religious revival among youth inspired by Kirk’s faith.
Scalise also discusses the House-passed funding bill, warning that Schumer and the far-left are pushing a shutdown out of political spite. He urges Democrats to prioritize governance over ideological battles. The hour closes with Scalise’s thoughts on LSU football, NIL funding, and the electrifying experience of Saturday nights in Tiger Stadium, complete with Cajun tailgating and Garth Brooks anthems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
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and you can check out the first couple of hours
of the program. Buck is in Taiwan. He will be
back on Monday. In the meantime, we are joined. We're
headed up to d C for this third hour, and
we are joined now by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
And let's dive right into it. Is there going to
be a shutdown? And if so, Senator, how is it
(00:45):
going to impact the average listener of hours out there
right now?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So, Klay, thanks for having me on, And yes, I
don't see there's any way in the world we have
avoid to shut down the Chuck Schumer is so scared
of AOC in his own state running against him that
he's willing to hold the American people hostage. Because what
we're doing here is we're putting a clean CR. Clean
CR means that's the same funding, same language that Chuck
(01:13):
Schumer voted for six months ago, and the same language
he voted for a year ago, So this nothing has
changed that he's voted already twice on this same funding package,
except now he's been threatened that if he votes for
it from the left that they're going to primary him,
and AOC is either going to run against him or
(01:33):
going to find somebody run against him. So he's running
scared and he's holding American people hostage over it. If
that happens, and we do go to a shutdown, which
Clay I don't see there's any way we avoided at
this point. I think we're going to Chuck Schumer shutdown.
It's not really going to affect anybody for the first
two weeks, and it depends on what is deemed essential
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and non essential. That's the president's discretion at the time.
But for those in the military, they get paid October first,
all their paychecks will go will still go out, they'll
be paid in full. On the second is when federal
employees get paid, their paychecks are already processed. They will
go out and they will be paid in full. When
(02:18):
every all Social Security benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, benefits will still
be intact, still be moving forward because that's discretionary or
that's mandatory spending, not discretionary. We're fighting over to discretionary
spending at this point. And so the but in two
weeks on the October fifteenth and sixteenth, if we are
(02:39):
still shut down, then federal employees and military won't be
paid because why because you have a career politician and
Chuck Schumer who has who has decided that his job
is more important than keeping the American people in the
government funded.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
What is the dispute over right now in a way
so as.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Quick as as you can put it there is the
dispute is really over their hatred towards President Trump. So
the question is is what is their demand their demand
on funding levels. By the way, that they've already voted
for already twice, and they voted for a CR thirteen
times underneath Biden. The difference now is Trump's in office
and they want to slow walk any policies that he has,
(03:26):
regardless that the American people elected President Trump and kicked
out their agenda because it was horrible for America put
President Trump in place in November. What their demand is
now is they want to extend a policy that they
had put in place during COVID that they could have
made permanent, but they knew that it was temporary to
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basically subsidize ACA affordable health care, which you know, affordable
healthcare is supposed to be affordable, right, But during COVID,
they put a subsidy in that waighed all requirements, meaning
there was no proof of citizenship, there was no proof
of income that you need to help for anything. Everybody
was eligible for this subsidy, and they funded insurance companies
(04:13):
to allow them to sign up people unchecked. And this
is a tune of about three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to the taxpayers. Now COVID is over, and they
intended for this to shut down to begin with because
they sunset. They were in control of the government at
the time, complete control. They could have made it permanent
they wanted to, they decided not to. And so now
(04:36):
they're saying that they want this extended, and we're saying, wait,
COVID is over, why do we need to be paying
a subsidy to insurance companies now that are making record profits,
Which I'm all about people making profits, but why are
the taxpayers still subsidizing that, And why are we allowing
illegal aliens to get these benefits for free? Because those
(04:57):
that crame here over illegally, they should be getting sh back.
That's what the American people voted for in November. But
this extends that covers them. Why because there's no checks
and balances to say that they're eligible or not. They
just automatically get enrolled into Obamacare. And that's what Chuck
Schumer is fighting for. So basically, still have taxpayers pay
for these illegals to have healthcare insurance?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We're talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Inevitably,
these issues eventually get decided, and by the way, along
with virtually everybody listening right now, what Democrats are seeking
is absurd. Do you think we'll have a resolution before
October fifteenth before individuals paychecks could be impacted?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, you know, I always tell people I'm good for
a big fight, in a good fight, as long as
I know what victory looks like and it's possible to win.
But if you go into a fight, which is what
the Democrats are doing here, what does victory look like
for them? Because it's hard for them to explain that
that clean CR that they've already supported twice, why they
wouldn't could what's different today than it was a year
(06:07):
ago or six months ago. So I would assume they
would come to their senses before that. But you can't
reason with crazy, and that's what Chuck Schumer is right now.
He's crazy. He's running scared. You've got to keep in
mind in nineteen ninety six, when I was a senior
in high school, which was twenty nine years ago, Chuck
Schumer then was a congressman. He went on the House
(06:29):
for and reled against benefits going to illegal aliens that
came to this country legally. That was in nineteen ninety six.
Now he's willing to shut down the government as a
senator and as a Democrat leader over giving benefits to illegals.
So you can't rationalize with that kind of thinking.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So I would.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Assume that people, you know, cooler heads would come to
the table and they would accept the clean CR. But
you can't at this point, you can't rationalize what they're
even thinking here. Can't is that my mama said, you
can't argue with crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think that's well said by your mama. By the way.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Also, we're around the same age, and a lot of
Democrat talking points in the nineties are actually Republican talking
points now for people like Chuck Schumer who were involved
long enough, I mean Bill Clinton, heck, nineteen ninety two
would be a Republican now. I mean, in all seriousness,
if you go back and look at.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It, Democrat party for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, when you look at the what happened in the
November election about eleven months ago, Trump won a landslide,
won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, kicked
Kamala's ass coast to coast. Democrats had two choices. One
they could look in the mirror and they could say,
as I think a lot of people try to do.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I don't know. I know you were involved in sports
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Sometimes you get beat and you say, boy, we really
beat ourselves. We didn't execute the game plan we had.
You know, we turned the ball over too much. If
we had played like we expect to play, we would
have won. Your game plan. Then you just have to
go execute it better. Other times you get your ass
kicked and you're like, boy, that seems a lot better
than us, and either we're going to have to change
(08:15):
our game plan, change the trajectory, or we're just going
to keep getting our ass kicked going forward. Seems to
me that Democrats had a choice, Senator. They can look
in the mirror and say they heard our message, they
didn't like it, and we got beat accordingly, or or
they could say we just got to double and triple
and quadruple down on crazy. It seems like they chose
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the second option, which just means they're going to keep
getting their ass kicked, probably even worse.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, to use your sports analogy, it's like the kid
that gets beat in wrestling, because wrestling is our family,
and you get beat and you blame it on the
ref every time, and you don't realize as probably your
practice habits and it's your training partners, and it's what
you put in that you're not getting back out, and
so you's easier to blame somebody else, and so you
double down the blame game. Well, that's exactly what's happening here.
(09:02):
You're absolutely correct. Instead of them taking a licking and
looking back as we call Oklahoma, right, you're taking a licking.
That's when you get beat. When you get when you
get beat and taking and looking back and going Wow.
Some of the best lessons learned is when you lose,
because if you reevaluate it and you can learn what
you did wrong correct it, you'll only be stronger and better,
(09:24):
or you double down and blame somebody else. They're blaming
the American people, the Democrats. They're blaming the American people, saying,
you got it wrong, you got it wrong, you didn't
understand what you voted for, you got it wrong. Well,
actually they didn't. They knew exactly what they're voting against
because they had four years of it. They had four
(09:44):
years of embarrassment from an administration that wanted to go
away what all American values have always traditionally stood for.
They wanted to go away from what America has stood
for and move us towards socialism. And it didn't work.
It was an experiment that felled. And so now the
left is running this running the Democrat Party. You could
(10:07):
go to JFK and you say the same thing that
you did about Clinton. K wouldn't belong to this party anymore.
And and when he says that they're the party of JFK,
that's not accurate because this party is the is the
party of Madamie or however you say his name, you know,
a communist socialist. This is a party of AOC and
Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett that go out there and
(10:31):
openly claimed to be uh uh a socialists. This is
a party of to leave and omar who is you
know who?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
They go out there and hate America And I mean
that sincerely. And so you go, what is the Where
is the Democrat Party today? They got beat because of
what they stand for, and the polling shows the Democrat
parties least popular now than they've ever been in history.
And you have leaders like Chuck Schumer and a Keem
j j just lead them down this tumbling path of
(11:04):
identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
What did you think of I saw your push up
pull up challenge, which you absolutely crushed. I think it
was like three minutes and forty seconds or something if I.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Remembering off the top three seconds.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's ridiculous for somebody, anybody, but
especially for somebody who's on Capitol Hill. What did you
think of Pete Hegseth's address to the war fighters of
America this morning?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Hey man, lead from front right. I used when I
was running my companies and building my companies every single day.
I told my management team, Hey, if you want your
employees to show up on time, you need to be
there thirty minutes earlier. If you want them there at
seven thirty, you'd be there at seven. If you want
to work late, you work thirty minutes past they do.
If you want them to answer the phone when you call,
you better always answer your phone. And by the way,
if you want them to show up with the clean
(11:51):
shirt and clean pants on every day, then your shirts
needs to be starched. If we're having And this is
what's always bugged me about coaches too. Coaches are coaching
at polites. They have access to every piece of equipment
and every trainer that their athletes do. There's no excuse why,
uh why a coach in football, wrestle in batln't care
what it is that's out of shape when you're trying
(12:12):
to get your players and and and your athletes in shape.
And the military, you're fighting for the heart of our country.
You're fighting for the existence of our country. You're you're
protecting the freedoms of those home and abroad. And we
should we we should expect excellence. And if you're going
to expect excellence. Then the generals who's leading from the
(12:36):
front need to need to express that and show that
every single day in themselves because they set the standard.
And and no one's going to lead or meet that
standard unless that leader is meeting that standard too. And
so whatever your expectations are, you need to put it.
You need to set yours higher than what everybody else
(12:57):
is below. So I commend hec Seth in saying this,
We're going to get our butts in shape of fat
generals and fat admirals walking through the Pentagon is no more.
And I commend him for that. I actually see him
a tech meess and I said, Bradie, my chest is
pumping with pride for what you just said.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Amen, Center, we appreciate the time. Let us know when
you need to come back on, and we appreciate you
sharing at Capitol Hill with us.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Thanks Clay, see you bye.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show rolling through
the Tuesday edition of the program and wouldn't you know it?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
First ever?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think I'm getting praised for using correct grammar. Ee
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Speaker 7 (15:37):
Hey, Clay Steve here, unofficial member of the Grammar Police
in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I want to give you kudos
today for not being one who says we're going to
meet someone where they're at. Thank you for saying we
will meet people where they are correctly. There's plenty of
things that I might be able to come up with
(15:58):
that you don't say right, but I thought i'd give
you a kudos for once. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, that's a credit to my mom who did instill
in me you can never end a sentence with that.
When I was a kid, where are we going to
eat at? She would always say after the preposition, So
I didn't even know I was doing that, but That's
one of the few grammar rules that I must have
picked up over the years.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Speaking of rules, one of my rules is everything Randy
Weingarten says is what a moron would say.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Here she is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Saying that she wears a clothing pin on her lapel
because it's what the Nazis, what they did in Denmark
when the Nazis occupied them.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Listen, there is a reason why in Norway, when the
Nazis took over Norway, that's why I'm wearing this paper clip.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I wear two things now, the American flag, nobody can
take patriotism away.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
From me, and a paper clip. What did the teachers
in Norway do.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
When there was when the it is the Nazi occupation,
They started wearing paper clips.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There you go, they started wearing paper clips when there
was a Nazi occupation.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And so.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Pay attention to what they are saying. Pay attention to
what they are saying, because they're not even hiding it.
They're saying that we are occupied by Nazis right now.
And a decent interviewer would have followed up and said, well,
so you think that the Republicans are Nazis and you
have to wear a paper clip, and presumably she would
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say yes, I mean, she's a moron, but the intent
of her moronic act is quite clear. She's giving cover
to the crazy people out there to kill us. They
believe they are heroes in this misguided world that they
are living in. We are occupying Nazi armies and anything
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of you hanging out with us. We're joined now by
Congressman Steve Scalise. He has been through a lot and
(19:08):
we're going to run through all of the all the
things coming up with a big turning point event that
he is going to be a part of shortly. But Congressman,
I want to start with we haven't had you on
since the Charlie Kirk shooting, but you've been a victim
of political violence. You almost lost your life while you
were preparing for I believe it was the baseball game,
(19:32):
but just practicing with other members of your team. What
did you think when you saw the Charlie Kirk video
and how much of it created flashbacks for you of
what happened to you about eight years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Hey, Clay and Buck, thank you for having me. You know,
it was such a tough day, I mean, you know,
my gosh, just to just to see somebody, you know,
at the time we didn't know Charlie was dead, but
you could just see it was something bad happened to
Charlie and that alone was just unearthing, I mean, alarming
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and you know, it makes you angry to see that,
you know, somebody is talented, as Charlie was out there
just talking to people. I mean, you know, encouraging people
to debate in a civil way, which is what we
all should be celebrating. And to the idea that somebody
thinks they can just take away a life because they
disagree with you politically is insane. And so I had
(20:34):
a lot of anger. I had, you know, just a
lot of feelings you feel for Charlie personally, for his family.
I mean, you know, he's got a young family, and
I'm thinking all those things. And then obviously along the way,
some of the you know, thoughts go back to twenty
seventeen and the shooting, you know, with me and my
other colleagues, and you know, we had a crazed shooter
that went and he wanted to kill every Republican on
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that ball field. And this idea that you've got these people,
I think you can all your political differences with violence
is it's against everything America stands for. And it was
just a horrible day in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We're talking with Steve Scalisi is the House majority leader,
and he's in Louisiana's first congressional district. I'll get into
what in the world's happened to LSU's offense with you
in a moment, Congressman. Yes, but you've got a big
turning point event that you are a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
What's going on there?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
What should people know about it, and what is the
importance of this event in the wake of as we
were just talking about what happened to Charlie Well.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I think something just a remarkable has come out of
a horrible situation, and that is that it really is
a woken people to say, wait a minute, we are
not going to live in fear. We're not going to
allow a voice like Charlie's to you know, had this
movement that Charlie created just end, And in fact, I
(22:01):
think the movement is going to grow even stronger. You've
seen Erica, his widow, just powerfully, powerfully talk about how
she's going to grow in into something even bigger. And
it's really happening. I mean, you know, we've seen you know,
fifty plus thousand young people have said I want to
start a turning point chapter on my college campus or
high school campus where it doesn't yet exist, and We've
(22:23):
seen a lot of Turning Point chapters. You know LSU,
where I went to school, we've got a Turning Point chapter,
and Charlie was going to be speaking in just a
few days to that campus chapter, and the event will
now go on. Our Governor Jeff Landry's going to be
highlighting it, and you know, it's saying the show must
go on. And I think you're going to see a
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lot more people, including people maybe that never even knew
what Turning Point was about, who now have seen it.
They've gone back and looked at Charlie's speeches and he's
inspired a whole new generation of people. So this idea
they were going to silence it is truly back fired.
I mean, I think you've seen you've seen the movement
already grow stronger and young people will not be silenced.
(23:07):
Junk people. Look, they're sick and tired of these leftists
telling him what to do and how to think. And
you've got to hate institutions and religion. And it's also
brought a new awakening in religion, people going to church
for the first time and understanding and Charlie had such
a deep faith in God, as do I. People now
I think are maybe getting back in touch with God too,
(23:28):
and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You mentioned the impact that Charlie's having. I interviewed Paul Finbaum.
I know you're a college football fan, as was Charlie,
and Paul told me he's thinking about running for the
Senate in Alabama as partly a result of what he
saw happened to Charlie Kirk. He just it left him
shaken and he wanted to think about what he could
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do to be the most impactful in his life. I
think that you are hearing, as you mentioned, a lot
of people from all walks of life, regardless of what
their background is, sitting around and thinking how can I
embody the courage that Charlie showed, that you showed after
you were shot to help take the country to a
better place.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Well, it's so true, And you know, I saw Paul's statements,
and I think you're going to see a lot more
things like that. More people maybe we're on the sidelines,
or you know, maybe if you're in media, you know,
they might have been scared to speak out because you know,
the culture and media is so far Yeah, well, and
they're worried about cancel culture. I don't think people are
gonna be worried about that cancel culture anymore. I think
(24:33):
it's reversing the other way, where it's you know that
the pendulums do swing in life and politics, and I
think people are disgusted by this idea that, you know,
radical leftists can just shut you up if they don't
agree with your point of view. They were trying to
do it in social media. Those days are over, and
I think the days of trying to shut people up
are only presenting one point of view in mainstream media
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or over too. A few people are watching some of
those shows anyway that do that, but I think the
rest of the public wants free speech, embraces free speech,
and realizes how much it's threatened by the left. The left,
ironically are the ones who seem to want to shut
down free speech, and we're not going to let it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
We're talking to Steve Scalice, Congressman from Louisiana. What should
we know? Succinctly, We talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
earlier this hour, But from your perspective, what should our
listeners know about the potential shutdown that would start tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, we passed a bill through the House two weeks
ago to keep government funding at funding the current current levels,
and you're seeing Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the far left
fringes that one a government shut down, not for any
particular reason, but just they don't like the results of
the election last November. And to far left base, the
radicals in the Democrat Party just want to fight with
(25:55):
Donald Trump, and a temper tantrum is not an excuse
to shut down the gun and disrupt the lives of
millions of people. Think about it. Men and women in
uniform will not get paid, TSA agents won't get paid,
Federal parks are shut down. A lot of bad things
happen in people's lives that get disrupted just because Chuck
(26:15):
Schumer wants to have a some kind of bar fight
with Donald Trump because he doesn't like the results of
the election in November. Think about this. Democrats and Republicans
voted for these very same funding levels in March. Nothing's
changed since March except the far left elements that are
about to elect a Marxist in New York City are
(26:36):
also clamoring for a government shutdown, and ultimately it's going
to be up to Democrats in Congress. Are they going
to feed the craziest voices on the left. Are they
going to do the right thing? And the right thing
is keep the government funded. This isn't a permanent solution,
but at least for seven weeks, short term, while we
negotiate our differences. Clearly we have differences, but you don't
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have a tantrument and disrupt the lives of millions of
peace people during that difference to negotiation. Let's keep government
funded at its current levels, the bills in the Senate.
So it's all on Schumer right now. If there's a
government shutdown, it's only because Schumer decided to cave to
the far left elements of his radical base and disrupt
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the lives of millions of people. I hope he doesn't
do it, and there's a chance that cooler heads will prevail,
But right now Schumer's looking for a shutdown and we'll
see where it goes come tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
All right, Right now, the biggest story in the state
of Louisiana is not government shutdowns. It is the Tiger offense.
So we got a lot of people listening all over
the country. But for people who don't know LSU couldn't
stop anybody on defense last year. This year the offense
has vanished. Our buddy Lane Kiffin, I think he's been
(27:52):
on the program up at Ole, miss celebrating a lot
of Rebels, fans, big rivalry there. Really enjoyed the win.
And Congressman, you got to solve everything in the world
right now, solve what's going on with your LSU Tigers.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What do they need? What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, well, you know, give me about another ten million
dollars in nil money. We can solve it. But now,
I was in Oxford, Mississippi, and it was tough. It
was tough being I'm an lslum. You know, I love
my Tigers and we're going to bounce back. But you know,
we've been having some offensive problems the last few weeks.
And Garrett Nelsmyer is a great quarterback. You could see
his numbers from last year. He did have an injury
(28:31):
at the beginning of this year. Not sure he's completely
through that yet. Once you see him one hundred percent,
I think you'll see this team bounce back. We got
some tough teams ahead. We still go to Alabama, we
have A and M coming in. We go to Vanderbilt,
who's undefeated. You know, we've still got some tough games
to prove ourselves, and I believe in coach Kelly. I
think they're going to bounce back. Our defense is much better,
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you know, it's the SEC. I mean, we just lost
to the number four team in the nation. So let's
not pull the panic button. But let's get better. We
can't and we have the capability with a great quarterback
to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The Grove is a spectacular place to go tailgate watch
a college football game. I'm fortunate to have been to
a bunch of games there. LSU on a Saturday night
is about as good as it gets. For people who
have never been and may never go to an LSU
Saturday night football game, what should they know about what
the experience is like.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Well, first of all, don't deprive yourself of that treat
of being in Tiger Stadium at some point on a
Saturday night in your life. I mean, it's a box.
Everybody needs to check the tailgating alone. You got to
go up there early. I mean, just for the food experience.
You know, everybody knows what New Orleans food is like
some of the best food in the world. You have
better Cajun chefs at some of the tailgates before the game.
(29:49):
At an LSU game, then you'll get at some of
the finest restaurants in New Orleans. It's world class. They
take it seriously. And then the game itself, you know,
one hundred and three thousand incredibly screaming loud fans. You know,
you get Garth Brooks playing Colin Baton Rouge on the
on the speakers and man, the crowd goes nuts. It's
it's a scene like no other on a Saturday night
(30:10):
in Tiger Stadium. You got to come. I'll be there,
and I think we'll we'll have to get everybody to
check that box on their on their dance card to
come to do that one time in their life at least.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now I've been. It's an amazing time. Congressman. We appreciate
the time. Always happy to have you on. Good luck
with that turning point event and good luck with LSU
figuring out what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Hey go Tigers and at guy Bless Let's uh, let's
let's keep getting this country back on track.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
That is Congressman Steve Scalise, as you heard running through
all of the challenges right now on Capitol Hill, and
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I want
to play for you as we close up shop here
on the Tuesday edition. I should mention, by the way,
I should have probably mentioned this before. I now have
a television show on FS one every Wednesday evening. So
if you're out there and you're thinking, you know, I
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need some more Clay Travis in my life. Every Wednesday
at six pm Eastern, I'm going to be we tape
it on Tuesday, so but it's going up on Wednesday,
and I'm getting ready to tape that and I probably
will talk a little bit about Paul Feinbaum. And I
wanted to play a couple of more cuts from this
clip that has really ricocheted all over the place, this interview,
(33:29):
and you just heard me talking with Steve Scalise about
the impact of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
The team pulled this and I wanted you to listen
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
This is Paul Feinbaum and he is a sports commentator
thinking about running for the Senate in Alabama. But in
your own life, I want you to maybe reflect as
he has and think what could I do to be
more impactful in the country that I love? Here's cut one.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
What was it like.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
For you to see what happened to Charlie Kirk and
then go on the SEC network and talk about games,
challenging real life things compared.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
To, frankly, the fun things in life. How do you
balance that?
Speaker 9 (34:06):
I spent four hours numb talking about talking about things
that didn't matter to me, and it kept building throughout
that week.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And I didn't know Charlie Kirk. I had never met him.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
So finally on I watched all the coverage, including you
on Fox. On Friday night, I was in Baton Rouge
and Saturday morning, I woke up and went over to
get ready for our show and I saw Tim Tebow
and I said, can I talk to you for a minute?
After you know, he finished eating, he came over. We
(34:42):
went outside and I asked him about Charlie Kirk and
he was very close to him and he said, you
really He looked at me, So are you okay?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I said, it's just there's just it's hard to describe.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Not being involved in politics, not being involved, how that
affected me and affected tens of millions of people all
over this country. And it was an awakening. And I
went out and did to show that morning, but it
still nagged at me and I couldn't get through it.
(35:14):
Tiba was soothing to me because he told me a
little bit about his relationship with Charlie Kirk, but I
felt very empty doing what I was doing that day.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
That affected me.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
In a way that I never really expected to be
affected by it. Also was juxtaposed with something else that
had happened a couple of days earlier.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I had.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Received a text from someone who I knew that I'd
seen at an event, and it led to another conversation,
and ultimately one to two people in Washington had reached
out to me about whether I would be interested in politics,
something I'd never thought about before, something I didn't really
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think possible.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah, I wasn't. There
wasn't a laye there to get Yeah, I think get involved.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
But and I gave some thought to it as this
weekend unfolded with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So that is Paul Finebaum just reflecting for him on
the impact that Charlie Kirk's life and the way it
was taken had on him. And I think there are
likely to be many of you out there still contemplating
in your own lives, what can I do to make
this country better? How can I be braver? How can
I be more courageous? How can I be stronger in
(36:39):
standing for what I believe? And no matter what you do,
whether it's talk on television, whether it's drive a truck,
whether it's teach kids. We all can do more so
what I'm trying to do, That's what I encourage all
of y'all to do. Wednesday edition tomorrow would be right
back with you. Thanks for listen.
Welcome in appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program.
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back on Monday. In the meantime, we are joined. We're
headed up to d C for this third hour, and
we are joined now by Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
And let's dive right into it. Is there going to
be a shutdown? And if so, Senator, how is it
(00:45):
going to impact the average listener of hours out there
right now?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So, Klay, thanks for having me on, And yes, I
don't see there's any way in the world we have
avoid to shut down the Chuck Schumer is so scared
of AOC in his own state running against him that
he's willing to hold the American people hostage. Because what
we're doing here is we're putting a clean CR. Clean
CR means that's the same funding, same language that Chuck
(01:13):
Schumer voted for six months ago, and the same language
he voted for a year ago, So this nothing has
changed that he's voted already twice on this same funding package,
except now he's been threatened that if he votes for
it from the left that they're going to primary him,
and AOC is either going to run against him or
(01:33):
going to find somebody run against him. So he's running
scared and he's holding American people hostage over it. If
that happens, and we do go to a shutdown, which
Clay I don't see there's any way we avoided at
this point. I think we're going to Chuck Schumer shutdown.
It's not really going to affect anybody for the first
two weeks, and it depends on what is deemed essential
(01:57):
and non essential. That's the president's discretion at the time.
But for those in the military, they get paid October first,
all their paychecks will go will still go out, they'll
be paid in full. On the second is when federal
employees get paid, their paychecks are already processed. They will
go out and they will be paid in full. When
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every all Social Security benefits, Medicare, Medicaid, benefits will still
be intact, still be moving forward because that's discretionary or
that's mandatory spending, not discretionary. We're fighting over to discretionary
spending at this point. And so the but in two
weeks on the October fifteenth and sixteenth, if we are
(02:39):
still shut down, then federal employees and military won't be
paid because why because you have a career politician and
Chuck Schumer who has who has decided that his job
is more important than keeping the American people in the
government funded.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
What is the dispute over right now in a way
so as.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Quick as as you can put it there is the
dispute is really over their hatred towards President Trump. So
the question is is what is their demand their demand
on funding levels. By the way, that they've already voted
for already twice, and they voted for a CR thirteen
times underneath Biden. The difference now is Trump's in office
and they want to slow walk any policies that he has,
(03:26):
regardless that the American people elected President Trump and kicked
out their agenda because it was horrible for America put
President Trump in place in November. What their demand is
now is they want to extend a policy that they
had put in place during COVID that they could have
made permanent, but they knew that it was temporary to
(03:49):
basically subsidize ACA affordable health care, which you know, affordable
healthcare is supposed to be affordable, right, But during COVID,
they put a subsidy in that waighed all requirements, meaning
there was no proof of citizenship, there was no proof
of income that you need to help for anything. Everybody
was eligible for this subsidy, and they funded insurance companies
(04:13):
to allow them to sign up people unchecked. And this
is a tune of about three hundred and fifty billion
dollars to the taxpayers. Now COVID is over, and they
intended for this to shut down to begin with because
they sunset. They were in control of the government at
the time, complete control. They could have made it permanent
they wanted to, they decided not to. And so now
(04:36):
they're saying that they want this extended, and we're saying, wait,
COVID is over, why do we need to be paying
a subsidy to insurance companies now that are making record profits,
Which I'm all about people making profits, but why are
the taxpayers still subsidizing that, And why are we allowing
illegal aliens to get these benefits for free? Because those
(04:57):
that crame here over illegally, they should be getting sh back.
That's what the American people voted for in November. But
this extends that covers them. Why because there's no checks
and balances to say that they're eligible or not. They
just automatically get enrolled into Obamacare. And that's what Chuck
Schumer is fighting for. So basically, still have taxpayers pay
for these illegals to have healthcare insurance?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We're talking to Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. Inevitably,
these issues eventually get decided, and by the way, along
with virtually everybody listening right now, what Democrats are seeking
is absurd. Do you think we'll have a resolution before
October fifteenth before individuals paychecks could be impacted?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, you know, I always tell people I'm good for
a big fight, in a good fight, as long as
I know what victory looks like and it's possible to win.
But if you go into a fight, which is what
the Democrats are doing here, what does victory look like
for them? Because it's hard for them to explain that
that clean CR that they've already supported twice, why they
wouldn't could what's different today than it was a year
(06:07):
ago or six months ago. So I would assume they
would come to their senses before that. But you can't
reason with crazy, and that's what Chuck Schumer is right now.
He's crazy. He's running scared. You've got to keep in
mind in nineteen ninety six, when I was a senior
in high school, which was twenty nine years ago, Chuck
Schumer then was a congressman. He went on the House
(06:29):
for and reled against benefits going to illegal aliens that
came to this country legally. That was in nineteen ninety six.
Now he's willing to shut down the government as a
senator and as a Democrat leader over giving benefits to illegals.
So you can't rationalize with that kind of thinking.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So I would.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Assume that people, you know, cooler heads would come to
the table and they would accept the clean CR. But
you can't at this point, you can't rationalize what they're
even thinking here. Can't is that my mama said, you
can't argue with crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think that's well said by your mama. By the way.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Also, we're around the same age, and a lot of
Democrat talking points in the nineties are actually Republican talking
points now for people like Chuck Schumer who were involved
long enough, I mean Bill Clinton, heck, nineteen ninety two
would be a Republican now. I mean, in all seriousness,
if you go back and look at.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It, Democrat party for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, when you look at the what happened in the
November election about eleven months ago, Trump won a landslide,
won all seven swing states, won the popular vote, kicked
Kamala's ass coast to coast. Democrats had two choices. One
they could look in the mirror and they could say,
as I think a lot of people try to do.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I don't know. I know you were involved in sports
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Sometimes you get beat and you say, boy, we really
beat ourselves. We didn't execute the game plan we had.
You know, we turned the ball over too much. If
we had played like we expect to play, we would
have won. Your game plan. Then you just have to
go execute it better. Other times you get your ass
kicked and you're like, boy, that seems a lot better
than us, and either we're going to have to change
(08:15):
our game plan, change the trajectory, or we're just going
to keep getting our ass kicked going forward. Seems to
me that Democrats had a choice, Senator. They can look
in the mirror and say they heard our message, they
didn't like it, and we got beat accordingly, or or
they could say we just got to double and triple
and quadruple down on crazy. It seems like they chose
(08:35):
the second option, which just means they're going to keep
getting their ass kicked, probably even worse.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Well, to use your sports analogy, it's like the kid
that gets beat in wrestling, because wrestling is our family,
and you get beat and you blame it on the
ref every time, and you don't realize as probably your
practice habits and it's your training partners, and it's what
you put in that you're not getting back out, and
so you's easier to blame somebody else, and so you
double down the blame game. Well, that's exactly what's happening here.
(09:02):
You're absolutely correct. Instead of them taking a licking and
looking back as we call Oklahoma, right, you're taking a licking.
That's when you get beat. When you get when you
get beat and taking and looking back and going Wow.
Some of the best lessons learned is when you lose,
because if you reevaluate it and you can learn what
you did wrong correct it, you'll only be stronger and better,
(09:24):
or you double down and blame somebody else. They're blaming
the American people, the Democrats. They're blaming the American people, saying,
you got it wrong, you got it wrong, you didn't
understand what you voted for, you got it wrong. Well,
actually they didn't. They knew exactly what they're voting against
because they had four years of it. They had four
(09:44):
years of embarrassment from an administration that wanted to go
away what all American values have always traditionally stood for.
They wanted to go away from what America has stood
for and move us towards socialism. And it didn't work.
It was an experiment that felled. And so now the
left is running this running the Democrat Party. You could
(10:07):
go to JFK and you say the same thing that
you did about Clinton. K wouldn't belong to this party anymore.
And and when he says that they're the party of JFK,
that's not accurate because this party is the is the
party of Madamie or however you say his name, you know,
a communist socialist. This is a party of AOC and
Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett that go out there and
(10:31):
openly claimed to be uh uh a socialists. This is
a party of to leave and omar who is you
know who?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
They go out there and hate America And I mean
that sincerely. And so you go, what is the Where
is the Democrat Party today? They got beat because of
what they stand for, and the polling shows the Democrat
parties least popular now than they've ever been in history.
And you have leaders like Chuck Schumer and a Keem
j j just lead them down this tumbling path of
(11:04):
identity crisis.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
What did you think of I saw your push up
pull up challenge, which you absolutely crushed. I think it
was like three minutes and forty seconds or something if I.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Remembering off the top three seconds.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's ridiculous for somebody, anybody, but
especially for somebody who's on Capitol Hill. What did you
think of Pete Hegseth's address to the war fighters of
America this morning?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Hey man, lead from front right. I used when I
was running my companies and building my companies every single day.
I told my management team, Hey, if you want your
employees to show up on time, you need to be
there thirty minutes earlier. If you want them there at
seven thirty, you'd be there at seven. If you want
to work late, you work thirty minutes past they do.
If you want them to answer the phone when you call,
you better always answer your phone. And by the way,
if you want them to show up with the clean
(11:51):
shirt and clean pants on every day, then your shirts
needs to be starched. If we're having And this is
what's always bugged me about coaches too. Coaches are coaching
at polites. They have access to every piece of equipment
and every trainer that their athletes do. There's no excuse why,
uh why a coach in football, wrestle in batln't care
what it is that's out of shape when you're trying
(12:12):
to get your players and and and your athletes in shape.
And the military, you're fighting for the heart of our country.
You're fighting for the existence of our country. You're you're
protecting the freedoms of those home and abroad. And we
should we we should expect excellence. And if you're going
to expect excellence. Then the generals who's leading from the
(12:36):
front need to need to express that and show that
every single day in themselves because they set the standard.
And and no one's going to lead or meet that
standard unless that leader is meeting that standard too. And
so whatever your expectations are, you need to put it.
You need to set yours higher than what everybody else
(12:57):
is below. So I commend hec Seth in saying this,
We're going to get our butts in shape of fat
generals and fat admirals walking through the Pentagon is no more.
And I commend him for that. I actually see him
a tech meess and I said, Bradie, my chest is
pumping with pride for what you just said.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Amen, Center, we appreciate the time. Let us know when
you need to come back on, and we appreciate you
sharing at Capitol Hill with us.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Thanks Clay, see you bye.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show rolling through
the Tuesday edition of the program and wouldn't you know it?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
First ever?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think I'm getting praised for using correct grammar. Ee
wear it Grammarians.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Hey, Clay Steve here, unofficial member of the Grammar Police
in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I want to give you kudos
today for not being one who says we're going to
meet someone where they're at. Thank you for saying we
will meet people where they are correctly. There's plenty of
things that I might be able to come up with
(15:58):
that you don't say right, but I thought i'd give
you a kudos for once. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, that's a credit to my mom who did instill
in me you can never end a sentence with that.
When I was a kid, where are we going to
eat at? She would always say after the preposition, So
I didn't even know I was doing that, but That's
one of the few grammar rules that I must have
picked up over the years.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Speaking of rules, one of my rules is everything Randy
Weingarten says is what a moron would say.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Here she is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Saying that she wears a clothing pin on her lapel
because it's what the Nazis, what they did in Denmark
when the Nazis occupied them.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Listen, there is a reason why in Norway, when the
Nazis took over Norway, that's why I'm wearing this paper clip.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I wear two things now, the American flag, nobody can
take patriotism away.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
From me, and a paper clip. What did the teachers
in Norway do.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
When there was when the it is the Nazi occupation,
They started wearing paper clips.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
There you go, they started wearing paper clips when there
was a Nazi occupation.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
And so.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Pay attention to what they are saying. Pay attention to
what they are saying, because they're not even hiding it.
They're saying that we are occupied by Nazis right now.
And a decent interviewer would have followed up and said, well,
so you think that the Republicans are Nazis and you
have to wear a paper clip, and presumably she would
(17:35):
say yes, I mean, she's a moron, but the intent
of her moronic act is quite clear. She's giving cover
to the crazy people out there to kill us. They
believe they are heroes in this misguided world that they
are living in. We are occupying Nazi armies and anything
(17:57):
they do to us is just a make it certain
that you understand exactly what they are arguing. You want
to have the right protection tools to defend yourself and
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Congressman Steve Scalise. He has been through a lot and
(19:08):
we're going to run through all of the all the
things coming up with a big turning point event that
he is going to be a part of shortly. But Congressman,
I want to start with we haven't had you on
since the Charlie Kirk shooting, but you've been a victim
of political violence. You almost lost your life while you
were preparing for I believe it was the baseball game,
(19:32):
but just practicing with other members of your team. What
did you think when you saw the Charlie Kirk video
and how much of it created flashbacks for you of
what happened to you about eight years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Hey, Clay and Buck, thank you for having me. You know,
it was such a tough day, I mean, you know,
my gosh, just to just to see somebody, you know,
at the time we didn't know Charlie was dead, but
you could just see it was something bad happened to
Charlie and that alone was just unearthing, I mean, alarming
(20:11):
and you know, it makes you angry to see that,
you know, somebody is talented, as Charlie was out there
just talking to people. I mean, you know, encouraging people
to debate in a civil way, which is what we
all should be celebrating. And to the idea that somebody
thinks they can just take away a life because they
disagree with you politically is insane. And so I had
(20:34):
a lot of anger. I had, you know, just a
lot of feelings you feel for Charlie personally, for his family.
I mean, you know, he's got a young family, and
I'm thinking all those things. And then obviously along the way,
some of the you know, thoughts go back to twenty
seventeen and the shooting, you know, with me and my
other colleagues, and you know, we had a crazed shooter
that went and he wanted to kill every Republican on
(20:55):
that ball field. And this idea that you've got these people,
I think you can all your political differences with violence
is it's against everything America stands for. And it was
just a horrible day in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
We're talking with Steve Scalisi is the House majority leader,
and he's in Louisiana's first congressional district. I'll get into
what in the world's happened to LSU's offense with you
in a moment, Congressman. Yes, but you've got a big
turning point event that you are a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
What's going on there?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
What should people know about it, and what is the
importance of this event in the wake of as we
were just talking about what happened to Charlie Well.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
I think something just a remarkable has come out of
a horrible situation, and that is that it really is
a woken people to say, wait a minute, we are
not going to live in fear. We're not going to
allow a voice like Charlie's to you know, had this
movement that Charlie created just end, And in fact, I
(22:01):
think the movement is going to grow even stronger. You've
seen Erica, his widow, just powerfully, powerfully talk about how
she's going to grow in into something even bigger. And
it's really happening. I mean, you know, we've seen you know,
fifty plus thousand young people have said I want to
start a turning point chapter on my college campus or
high school campus where it doesn't yet exist, and We've
(22:23):
seen a lot of Turning Point chapters. You know LSU,
where I went to school, we've got a Turning Point chapter,
and Charlie was going to be speaking in just a
few days to that campus chapter, and the event will
now go on. Our Governor Jeff Landry's going to be
highlighting it, and you know, it's saying the show must
go on. And I think you're going to see a
(22:45):
lot more people, including people maybe that never even knew
what Turning Point was about, who now have seen it.
They've gone back and looked at Charlie's speeches and he's
inspired a whole new generation of people. So this idea
they were going to silence it is truly back fired.
I mean, I think you've seen you've seen the movement
already grow stronger and young people will not be silenced.
(23:07):
Junk people. Look, they're sick and tired of these leftists
telling him what to do and how to think. And
you've got to hate institutions and religion. And it's also
brought a new awakening in religion, people going to church
for the first time and understanding and Charlie had such
a deep faith in God, as do I. People now
I think are maybe getting back in touch with God too,
(23:28):
and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You mentioned the impact that Charlie's having. I interviewed Paul Finbaum.
I know you're a college football fan, as was Charlie,
and Paul told me he's thinking about running for the
Senate in Alabama as partly a result of what he
saw happened to Charlie Kirk. He just it left him
shaken and he wanted to think about what he could
(23:52):
do to be the most impactful in his life. I
think that you are hearing, as you mentioned, a lot
of people from all walks of life, regardless of what
their background is, sitting around and thinking how can I
embody the courage that Charlie showed, that you showed after
you were shot to help take the country to a
better place.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Well, it's so true, And you know, I saw Paul's statements,
and I think you're going to see a lot more
things like that. More people maybe we're on the sidelines,
or you know, maybe if you're in media, you know,
they might have been scared to speak out because you know,
the culture and media is so far Yeah, well, and
they're worried about cancel culture. I don't think people are
gonna be worried about that cancel culture anymore. I think
(24:33):
it's reversing the other way, where it's you know that
the pendulums do swing in life and politics, and I
think people are disgusted by this idea that, you know,
radical leftists can just shut you up if they don't
agree with your point of view. They were trying to
do it in social media. Those days are over, and
I think the days of trying to shut people up
are only presenting one point of view in mainstream media
(24:56):
or over too. A few people are watching some of
those shows anyway that do that, but I think the
rest of the public wants free speech, embraces free speech,
and realizes how much it's threatened by the left. The left,
ironically are the ones who seem to want to shut
down free speech, and we're not going to let it happen.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
We're talking to Steve Scalice, Congressman from Louisiana. What should
we know? Succinctly, We talked with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
earlier this hour, But from your perspective, what should our
listeners know about the potential shutdown that would start tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, we passed a bill through the House two weeks
ago to keep government funding at funding the current current levels,
and you're seeing Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the far left
fringes that one a government shut down, not for any
particular reason, but just they don't like the results of
the election last November. And to far left base, the
radicals in the Democrat Party just want to fight with
(25:55):
Donald Trump, and a temper tantrum is not an excuse
to shut down the gun and disrupt the lives of
millions of people. Think about it. Men and women in
uniform will not get paid, TSA agents won't get paid,
Federal parks are shut down. A lot of bad things
happen in people's lives that get disrupted just because Chuck
(26:15):
Schumer wants to have a some kind of bar fight
with Donald Trump because he doesn't like the results of
the election in November. Think about this. Democrats and Republicans
voted for these very same funding levels in March. Nothing's
changed since March except the far left elements that are
about to elect a Marxist in New York City are
(26:36):
also clamoring for a government shutdown, and ultimately it's going
to be up to Democrats in Congress. Are they going
to feed the craziest voices on the left. Are they
going to do the right thing? And the right thing
is keep the government funded. This isn't a permanent solution,
but at least for seven weeks, short term, while we
negotiate our differences. Clearly we have differences, but you don't
(26:57):
have a tantrument and disrupt the lives of millions of
peace people during that difference to negotiation. Let's keep government
funded at its current levels, the bills in the Senate.
So it's all on Schumer right now. If there's a
government shutdown, it's only because Schumer decided to cave to
the far left elements of his radical base and disrupt
(27:17):
the lives of millions of people. I hope he doesn't
do it, and there's a chance that cooler heads will prevail,
But right now Schumer's looking for a shutdown and we'll
see where it goes come tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
All right, Right now, the biggest story in the state
of Louisiana is not government shutdowns. It is the Tiger offense.
So we got a lot of people listening all over
the country. But for people who don't know LSU couldn't
stop anybody on defense last year. This year the offense
has vanished. Our buddy Lane Kiffin, I think he's been
(27:52):
on the program up at Ole, miss celebrating a lot
of Rebels, fans, big rivalry there. Really enjoyed the win.
And Congressman, you got to solve everything in the world
right now, solve what's going on with your LSU Tigers.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What do they need? What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, well, you know, give me about another ten million
dollars in nil money. We can solve it. But now,
I was in Oxford, Mississippi, and it was tough. It
was tough being I'm an lslum. You know, I love
my Tigers and we're going to bounce back. But you know,
we've been having some offensive problems the last few weeks.
And Garrett Nelsmyer is a great quarterback. You could see
his numbers from last year. He did have an injury
(28:31):
at the beginning of this year. Not sure he's completely
through that yet. Once you see him one hundred percent,
I think you'll see this team bounce back. We got
some tough teams ahead. We still go to Alabama, we
have A and M coming in. We go to Vanderbilt,
who's undefeated. You know, we've still got some tough games
to prove ourselves, and I believe in coach Kelly. I
think they're going to bounce back. Our defense is much better,
(28:52):
you know, it's the SEC. I mean, we just lost
to the number four team in the nation. So let's
not pull the panic button. But let's get better. We
can't and we have the capability with a great quarterback
to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
The Grove is a spectacular place to go tailgate watch
a college football game. I'm fortunate to have been to
a bunch of games there. LSU on a Saturday night
is about as good as it gets. For people who
have never been and may never go to an LSU
Saturday night football game, what should they know about what
the experience is like.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Well, first of all, don't deprive yourself of that treat
of being in Tiger Stadium at some point on a
Saturday night in your life. I mean, it's a box.
Everybody needs to check the tailgating alone. You got to
go up there early. I mean, just for the food experience.
You know, everybody knows what New Orleans food is like
some of the best food in the world. You have
better Cajun chefs at some of the tailgates before the game.
(29:49):
At an LSU game, then you'll get at some of
the finest restaurants in New Orleans. It's world class. They
take it seriously. And then the game itself, you know,
one hundred and three thousand incredibly screaming loud fans. You know,
you get Garth Brooks playing Colin Baton Rouge on the
on the speakers and man, the crowd goes nuts. It's
it's a scene like no other on a Saturday night
(30:10):
in Tiger Stadium. You got to come. I'll be there,
and I think we'll we'll have to get everybody to
check that box on their on their dance card to
come to do that one time in their life at least.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now I've been. It's an amazing time. Congressman. We appreciate
the time. Always happy to have you on. Good luck
with that turning point event and good luck with LSU
figuring out what's going on with the offense.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Hey go Tigers and at guy Bless Let's uh, let's
let's keep getting this country back on track.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
That is Congressman Steve Scalise, as you heard running through
all of the challenges right now on Capitol Hill, and
also much less significantly the challenges for the LSU Tiger offense.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I want
to play for you as we close up shop here
on the Tuesday edition. I should mention, by the way,
I should have probably mentioned this before. I now have
a television show on FS one every Wednesday evening. So
if you're out there and you're thinking, you know, I
(33:05):
need some more Clay Travis in my life. Every Wednesday
at six pm Eastern, I'm going to be we tape
it on Tuesday, so but it's going up on Wednesday,
and I'm getting ready to tape that and I probably
will talk a little bit about Paul Feinbaum. And I
wanted to play a couple of more cuts from this
clip that has really ricocheted all over the place, this interview,
(33:29):
and you just heard me talking with Steve Scalise about
the impact of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
The team pulled this and I wanted you to listen
to it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
This is Paul Feinbaum and he is a sports commentator
thinking about running for the Senate in Alabama. But in
your own life, I want you to maybe reflect as
he has and think what could I do to be
more impactful in the country that I love? Here's cut one.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
What was it like.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
For you to see what happened to Charlie Kirk and
then go on the SEC network and talk about games,
challenging real life things compared.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
To, frankly, the fun things in life. How do you
balance that?
Speaker 9 (34:06):
I spent four hours numb talking about talking about things
that didn't matter to me, and it kept building throughout
that week.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
And I didn't know Charlie Kirk. I had never met him.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
So finally on I watched all the coverage, including you
on Fox. On Friday night, I was in Baton Rouge
and Saturday morning, I woke up and went over to
get ready for our show and I saw Tim Tebow
and I said, can I talk to you for a minute?
After you know, he finished eating, he came over. We
(34:42):
went outside and I asked him about Charlie Kirk and
he was very close to him and he said, you
really He looked at me, So are you okay?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I said, it's just there's just it's hard to describe.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
Not being involved in politics, not being involved, how that
affected me and affected tens of millions of people all
over this country. And it was an awakening. And I
went out and did to show that morning, but it
still nagged at me and I couldn't get through it.
(35:14):
Tiba was soothing to me because he told me a
little bit about his relationship with Charlie Kirk, but I
felt very empty doing what I was doing that day.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
That affected me.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
In a way that I never really expected to be
affected by it. Also was juxtaposed with something else that
had happened a couple of days earlier.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I had.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Received a text from someone who I knew that I'd
seen at an event, and it led to another conversation,
and ultimately one to two people in Washington had reached
out to me about whether I would be interested in politics,
something I'd never thought about before, something I didn't really
(36:03):
think possible.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah, I wasn't. There
wasn't a laye there to get Yeah, I think get involved.
Speaker 9 (36:09):
But and I gave some thought to it as this
weekend unfolded with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So that is Paul Finebaum just reflecting for him on
the impact that Charlie Kirk's life and the way it
was taken had on him. And I think there are
likely to be many of you out there still contemplating
in your own lives, what can I do to make
this country better? How can I be braver? How can
I be more courageous? How can I be stronger in
(36:39):
standing for what I believe? And no matter what you do,
whether it's talk on television, whether it's drive a truck,
whether it's teach kids. We all can do more so
what I'm trying to do, That's what I encourage all
of y'all to do. Wednesday edition tomorrow would be right
back with you. Thanks for listen.
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