August 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the shifting landscape of American politics, voter demographics, and cultural trends, featuring data-driven insights from Ryan Girdusky, host of It’s a Numbers Game on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network. This hour delivers compelling analysis on the Republican surge among Gen Z voters, with Pew Research showing a dramatic 44-point swing toward the GOP among men under 30 and a 14-point shift among young women. Girdusky highlights how Donald Trump’s 2024 victory among young white and non-white men signals a generational realignment.
The hosts explore how COVID-19 shaped political identity, comparing its impact to historical events like Vietnam and WWII. They also examine the influence of Gen X parents—America’s most Republican demographic—on younger voters, and how cultural backlash against progressive norms is fueling conservative momentum.
A key segment focuses on Latino voter trends, revealing that only 8% of Latinos who supported Trump in 2024 plan to vote Democrat in 2026, with a notable drop in Democratic support among Biden-Trump voters. The conversation then shifts to Kamala Harris’s political future, with Girdusky suggesting her influence is waning within the Democratic Party.
The hour also tackles gerrymandering, with claims that Democrats are more aggressive in redistricting than Republicans, citing states like Illinois, Maryland, and Massachusetts. The discussion expands to Democratic leadership, naming Bernie Sanders and AOC as rising progressive figures, while questioning the viability of candidates like Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, and Mayor Pete.
Listeners are treated to humorous commentary on broadcasting appearance standards, including critiques of Clay’s wardrobe and beard, and reflections on the scrutiny faced by male media personalities. The segment closes with updates on Clay and Buck’s YouTube channel, a push for more subscriber engagement, and a preview of upcoming original content.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now. Our
friend Ryan good Dusky is back in the mix with us.
He is a star of the Clay in Buck podcast network.
His show, It's a Numbers Game for those of you
who just want to know what is the data telling us,
what is the reality of American politics based on the
fact the figures, all that good stuff. You want to
(00:20):
impress all your friends who think they know about politics.
Listen to It's a Numbers Game by Ryan ger Dusky.
Mister Ryan, good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Sir, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Let's talk what's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now?
I mean I've seen some of the numbers for example.
I mean I was gonna just lay it out to you,
but actually I want to know about this. This switch
from Democrat to Republican for men. I think the number
that I saw was under forty basically, or maybe it's
under forty five over the last two years is stunning stuff.
(00:53):
Are those numbers real to you? Is the data good
on that? And what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So comes out of Pew research. If your research reported
that a party identification for men under the age of
thirty had a forty four point swing towards Republicans from
Republicans having thirty six percent to fifty two percent, and
among women under thirty there was a fourteen point swing
from women having thirty to thirty seven. Obviously, Democrats lost
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seven in that mixus where you get the fourteen from? Now?
Is the numbers real? They're not based off of party
registration numbers, right, So they didn't go to every state
that registers people by party, and most states don't register
people by party, just registered to vote. But they went
through the overall How do you think of yourself overall?
Do you lean Republican? Any you lean Democrat? Interesting about
there's a man named David Shore, a very very smart
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progressive data scientist. David Shore said that in the twenty
twenty four election, not only did Donald Trump win young
white men and young white women under the age of twenty,
he won young non white men under the age of
twenty and young white men under the age of twenty
were the most Republican group of voters in the country.
Trump when out seventy five percent of their support. So
(02:05):
do I think that it's true? Probably? I mean, there's
a lot of data to back that up that young
young men especially, but young white men especially are kind
of pedal to the metal for the Republican Party. Now
does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done. No,
Trump's favorable numbers among young people is down. It's not
you know, in any situation where it's down like sixty
(02:26):
to seventy points, but it has gone down. Remember, when
someone's in office, numbers likely go down because you have
to make good in all your campaign promises. And Americans
are a very sickle bunch. We want things, we want
things immediately.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I would say this because I've got three young boys seventeen, fourteen,
and ten in my household, and I'm around their teams
that they're on and everything else. Ryan, What I see
is most seventeen year old, sixteen fourteen year olds that
they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should
be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they
(03:01):
do see is a scolding, sort of school mom like
quality of the Democrat Party constantly wagging their finger at
young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle
ad is representative of that. How much of this do
you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution? To
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the WO agenda that so many of these kids have
been raised in, because that's what I see as primarily
motivating this response.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response,
and I've spoken to a number of data analysts about this.
Data scientists. One was COVID. Right, kids, you grew up
with COVID losing graduation? It really was. I mean, I
don't want to sound over over extended when I say this,
but it is true. It was kind of like world
growing up during World War Two, or growing up during
the War on Terror, or growing up during Vietnam. It
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is a defining thing for your generation that will impact
your politics. Probably.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, let me cut you off for a moment there,
because I do think a lot of people have miss this.
If you didn't get to go to prom, or you
didn't get to play your high school football season, and
a lot of these kids they're sixteen and suddenly they
don't go back to school again until they're eighteen. That's
such a formative, transformative era. I don't think that you're
over analyzing that. In fact, I think it's been under discussed.
(04:20):
I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here
because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about
culturally right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And the other big thing that no one else has
talked about that a number of people brought ups me
is that older gen Zers right their parents are still
most are still like half baby boomers, which are now
becoming one of the more progressive. Younger baby boomers are
far more progressive than older baby boomers are. Most younger
gen Zers are almost all younger gen Zers parents are
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gen Xers, and they are the most republican demographic in
the country today. So the who is these gen Zers
parents also plays a significant in part in why their
politics have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for
these kids, in part because the parents have changed and
the parents are more right wing than the parents that
came before. That plays a significant role in why these
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kids are more younger. I mean, listen, if you grew
up and you were a baby boomer, and you were
a younger baby boomer, like let's say you're sixty now,
and your politics revolved around I don't know, not protesting
Viana more. You might have been too young for that,
but you remember it certainly. Versus if you are a
younger baby, if you're a gen xer, and you grew
(05:33):
up watching you know, Jay and silent Bob strikes back,
and you thought, you know, you were non conformists, and
you had Johnny Depp posted in your bedroom versus like
David Cassidy. That's an entirely different cultural reference point. And
a lot of gen Xers are more countercultural in that respect,
and they do had a non conformity and they don't
(05:54):
like authoritarianism, like the way we saw Duane Covid speaking.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
To Ryan orsin It's a numbers Game. Is this podcast
on the Clay Endbuck Network. So go it's a great
time to listen to it this weekend. Go check it out.
You'll be really up to speed.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Rian.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What else is really top of your radar for the
data out there to tell us about how things are
trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Right So, there's a new poll out that I find
very very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm
meant to take it with a big grain of salt,
but it is a question I have thought about over
and over, and that is Latinos who voted for Joe
Biden in twenty twenty and then Donald Trump and then
twenty twenty four, this is the group that will affect
a number of congressional districts. This is the group that
(06:39):
we are redistricting Texas around. Right. So the poll, which
once again is a Democratic polster, and they weren't particularly
amazing in during twenty twenty four, but they were like,
way way off, So it's called equis research. They said
that only eight percent of Latinos who voted for Donald
Trump in twenty twenty four plan on voting for the
Democrat in twenty twenty six. That is not a Mez
(07:00):
defection at all. Specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are
what they call the Biden defectors. A thirty percent say
they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is
ten points down from three months ago that when said
forty percent woul vote for the Democrats. So of those
groups of people who are new to the Republican Party,
(07:20):
who have a long life, long history of voting for Democrats,
two out of three are not returning home for the
Democratic Party. I know you may say thirty percent is
a huge chunk, but in long trajectories of a long
history of when groups of people switch party, in vocation.
You're talking ethnic whites in the sixties, or Jews or
which not, or you know, working class people. There's always bumps,
(07:43):
ups and downs. They switch, they come back, they go,
they come back. But there's a trajectory that they'll pay
attention to. If you look at the Latina vote, the
working class Latino vote, the fact that two thirds are
sitting there and saying no, I'm probably either undecided or
I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party that continue that
trajectory going forward. And it's just for the Democrats and
say you're not going to wake up and all of
(08:04):
a sudden being twenty twelve again, these people kind of
have come to stay and you're gonna have to either
figure out a new coalition or change your policies or
your vibes or whatever to bring them back. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future.
Other people think that Kamala Harris is finished. What do
you think.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is
probably finished with politics. I don't think anyone in the
Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know, you
know a few Democratic cans all who take her seriously,
and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in
twenty twenty when she was vicked as the VP, and
they certainly didn't take her seriously now. No matter how
(08:49):
many bitches are in that she had the perfect campaign,
the perfect campaign generally leaves you in the White House.
She's going on, Stephen Colbert, It's a much different life.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
On the House for next year. The five potential editions
in Texas. There's lots of talk about a variety of
different state moves and everything else. But it seems to me,
and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying
to claim, oh, only one side jerry manders is completely wrong. Basically,
(09:21):
Red states are going to do whatever makes sense for
Red states by and large. Blue states are going to
do whatever makes sense for Blue states by and large.
If you assess the overall map, is one party more
or less guilty of jerrymandering than the other, And how
much movement do you think might happen before next year
when I think most people agree the House is likely
(09:43):
to come down to five or six seats, it's going
to be a fine line between who controls it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, there is one party that overly jerry manners. And
that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many
different states as reproportionment, right, they have control. In twenty twenty,
they had control essentially of seven states Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts,
and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they
had full control of. In all seven states, there are
(10:11):
a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of
congressional seats. They jerrymandered them to the Republicans, the absolute
corners where they couldn't basically get rid of all of them,
but every chance that they had to get rid of them.
Oregon should have easily two republicans, Nevada two republicans, New
Mexico won, Maryland two, Illinois should have five or six,
Massachusetts should have won. They all have none. Now, if
(10:34):
you look at the Republican districts Texas, everyone's sing Texas, Texas.
You know, so jerrymandered. Texas is less jerrymandered than Illinois,
than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, then
New Mexico, then all of these states. Right, they are
super super gerrymandered, and where they could knock Republicans off.
They did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and
(10:57):
changed to commission based redistricting, which has to at least
look semi fair, even when it's not in the case
of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin
Newsom pouting his chest, saying I'm going to fight you know,
I'm going to fight abbit, and I'm going to change
these my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six
new seats is impossible. Sure so is like a flying pig.
(11:20):
It's not really ever going to happen because it would
take so many hurdles to have to do a constituial convention.
If the past two thirds majority have to go to
a vote for the people, millions of dollars in several
years would have to be spent order for Gavin Newsom
to get that. Same thing with New York, same thing
with New Jersey is people pouting their chests and pretending
like Democrats have been working, you know, in such a
(11:40):
sanctimonious way to give fair representation, are lying to themselves,
and most of are lying to the voters about how
they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit there
and say, uh, you know I'm going to be the
candidate to take on Trump when they run for president
in four years.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Who is the lead of the Democrat Party right now
as far as you can see, Ryan, Because Kamala was
asked last night on Colbert and didn't even She didn't
do what I would expect the Democrat to do, which
is say, oh, we have so many people and rattle
off the first four or five names that come to mind.
She said nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
What are you say?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, isn't that typical of Kamala Harris to say nothing?
I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
As a right, I think Bernie Sanders. Wow, I thought
you were gonna say newsome Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, No, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest
air ability rating of any elected Democrat. Second is AOC.
The progressive wing is on the rise, and there's just
no there's no derailing it at this point. And you
know we are we They're going to switch the chairs
in the deck on the Titanic. The Dextro's Undertannic to
try to get more moderates to be elected. They'll move
(12:46):
the primaries of South Carolina. They do everything they can.
But we are just you know, maybe an election cycle
maybe two away from the Democrats going full Mandannie nationwide
and that you know, we're just going to be in
a new progressive face where they go far left on
a number of issues.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Let me let me make the case.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I want to get your reaction quickly here if
I'm advising Kamala, right, I'm not saying that I agree
with all of this all right, just to be fair,
but I look at guys who and gals who are
likely to run. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Witmer, Josh Shapiro, Andy Basheer, JB. Pritzker,
(13:25):
and all of these so called may or Pete. Many
of them are basically white people, right, that are attempting
to persuade college educated white voters that they're the right choice.
Like Mayor Pete, for instance, has zero percent support among
black people. Meanwhile, you know, if you're a if you're
(13:46):
a college educated woman out there, you love him, right,
He is your favorite gay friend.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And so and so.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If you look on the minority side, right, Corey Booker
is a joke, right. I mean, every time a guy
opens his mouth, he looks like crazy eyes from the
curb your enthusiasm. I mean, he just looks like an
insane person. I think he has no larger political future.
Wes Moore is uncertain AOC. My point is, if you're
looking at the minority black side of the Democrat Party,
(14:16):
if I'm advising Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams is done, Karen
bass is done. There's almost no one else in that lane,
and she doesn't have to be hugely popular. She just
has to get that twenty five percent. Am I crazy?
Or who is going to contend with her for that
lane if she were to run.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, the one thing I would say, I understand your presumption,
but I just want to put one little context in
here is that the black vote, especially in the South,
doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for
the candidate I think can win. They are much more
modern and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for.
So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harrison,
you want to have a footprint in politics, realizing that
(14:57):
your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do it.
Richard Nixon did former Sewer pak campaign for the next
Democrat be a king Maker and then if they don't win,
come under your white horse and give it eight years
in the wil dreness. She can afford that time if
she wants to do that. I don't think she even can.
But I don't think the presumption is that the black
vote is going to only vote for a black candidate.
(15:18):
I think that they're going to they'll be okay with
a black candidate being on the ticket, But I don't
think that they need a black candidate because in a
long history from Clinton owards, remember Clinton ran against Jesse Jackson,
I mean, and Obama was the only one today sat there,
so that we have to have it. So I think
that they're more pragmatic than that and more.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Modern good stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Ryan Gerdusky, you can find him in the Clay and
Buck podcast network. We appreciate the time, man.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
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Gary reached out discussing my wardrobe. Clay, the gentleman that
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collar sag. Your sports coach don't fit properly. The shoulders
look like you have football pads on. Your beard has
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the appearance of a homeless person. Please get some advice.
You have them, you have the money. Your beard has
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Do we have to call it fashion now? I don't know,
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(19:07):
every sentence I was reading his email to me, every
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we've got some other good stuff going on here. I
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(19:28):
right so we can take these.
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I like the Animal Thunderdome idea. We've talked about this,
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(21:10):
what my wife should wear to any event for twenty
one years of marriage. And in fact, oftentimes it will
be if Buck's going, for instance, she'll just be like, well,
just tell me what Carrie's gonna wear. Let me talk
with carry about what she's gonna because I have no idea.
I did tell her once what to wear to an event.
I swear this is true. We were going to a
Nashville Predator's hockey playoff game, and I had gone to
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the one right before that. She hadn't been to it
one a while. She's like, well, what do people wear?
And I said, well, they dress pretty nice. I thought,
like I thought everybody was dressed pretty nice. So I
don't know what she wore, but she overdressed. And for
a decade now she has been referencing the fact that
the one time I tried to give her advice, I
told her to dress too nicely for a sporting event.
(21:53):
So I'm just out of the game. But Anna has
Anna from Utah has some advice here d D one
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Speaker 4 (22:06):
Missus Anna from Utah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I'm a bike listening to you, guys.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I gotta say that the reason your wife doesn't ask
you what she she should actually wear is because your
answer will most likely be do you have to wear anything?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You look great naked?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Whoa Banna Anna on this? She's on her peloton bike.
It sounds like they're that's a good answer. That's a
good answer, and certainly I don't complain. Does La does
Laura ever throw this one? In your face, because this
happens sometimes with Carrie. Uh where where she goes which
one of these do you like? And then she'll go
You're just gonna like the tight one more, aren't you?
And I'm like, I mean, I'm a I'm a dude,
(22:43):
you know, Like what can I do?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know this, I've talked about this before. My wife,
Uh does garage shells yard sell I don't. This has
turned into a huge battle me pointing out that uh.
And I think my friend Nate Bargatsy like actually heard
this and has got a huge comedia griff on it.
You know, positive, we get like five dollars negative. Somebody
shows up at the house and like, murders you. She's
(23:08):
been doing these yard sales forever, right, like garage sales
whatever you want to say, and the amount of effort
and energy that goes into it. But to your point, Buck,
there's a couple of times where she's put dresses up
and I know nothing, but I'm like, this is an
amazing dress and she's like, well, I'm getting too old
to wear you know that dress? Right, It's it's a
little bit too sexy. You know, I got three kids.
Every time that not. I disagree. I think we got
(23:29):
to take that one out of the pile. So yes,
the answer is probably going to be yes, legs a
little bit of a cleavage. I'm not going to complain
about it, but but yes, the uh the Gary email here,
I'm still laughing about it. If you missed it, Here's
what Gary had to say. The gentleman that called in
regarding your clothing is absolutely correct. It's and buck. What
I noticed is each sentence gets a little bit worse.
(23:51):
It's like different body blows. Your shirt, collars sag, your
sports coaches don't fit properly, the shoulders look like you
have footballs on. And then the coupdi gras here. This
is like the Mike Tyson uppercut back in the nineteen eighties.
Your beard has the appearance of a homeless person. Please
get some advice. You have the money, Gary, So, Gary
(24:15):
has definitely come off the top. I will tell you,
you know, I when I met with Trump in twenty twenty,
this is this photo is still available online, so I'm
probably asking to get ripped again for it. But when
I saw Trump in May of twenty twenty, which was
you know right, it was peak COVID, But I still
went to the White House then and spent you know,
forty minutes sitting down with President Trump. I hadn't been
(24:36):
able to get a haircut because there was no hair cutting,
and and I hadn't done anything, and the gyms were closed.
So this is my way of saying, I looked perhaps
like a chubby vagrant with you know, and I just
remember just getting ripped and I was like, really, guys,
no no grace during COVID, even for like gaining a
few lb. Because I looked a little a little overstuffed
(24:58):
in the suit and I hadn't gotten.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
The hair cut.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Man, people are harsh. People were radio hosts. You know,
we're not ever Crombie models. Before I started doing television,
I had and I'm sure this is probably true for women.
In fact, I think people may be meaner to men
because men don't typically put as much stake in appearance.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I know that what blew me away when I started
doing television about a decade ago, because I started off
doing writing and then moved into radio television a decade
plus whatever it is roughly i've been doing it. I
thought people would react to what I said, the overwhelming
majority of people react not to what you say, but
to what you look like while you're saying it. And
(25:44):
I do think that that's something that most people don't
contemplate very much. So you know, I'm not a morning person.
And I remember I did.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This is many years ago. I did a Fox and
Friends hit and it was in the maybe it was
like the six thirty or seven am kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I was this when I lived in New York
and I got there and I was in person the
studio and and someone, as someone described, you know when
you when you've been sleeping and like your hair in
the back, Yeah, you have like tod head going on. Yeah, right,
but it was in the back so I couldn't so
I thought I was fine, And he said, dude, you
when I when my head turned on set, you had
a shark fin coming out of shark fin coming out
(26:23):
of the back. And I saw it and I did
have this like pointy triangle of hair off the back
of my head, which and by the way, that's all
any that's all anyone notices. You go on TV. I
could be giving out the formula for coca Cola pure
and if I have a shark fin because of BedHead
off the back of my head, that's all that anyone
in the comments is going to talk about. But I'd
say this, when you're a guy in broadcasting, people who
(26:44):
like you still and like are on your team will
make fun of your appearance and like it's all in
you know, we take it and whatever. Even if you
know someone saying, buck, you've gained a little weight or
a lot of weight or whatever it is. I think
if you're a lady in broadcasting, none of your everyone
knows that, no, no, don't you don't attack a lady,
good parents. If you're actually a fan, like you can
(27:04):
be a fan of a guy in broadcasting and make
fun of him for that stuff, and it's like we're
all still friends. I think only people that are trying
to tear down a woman in broadcasting attack or appearance
like nobody would find you know what I mean, it's
it's yeah, no, it's not. I think that's I think
that's probably true. I don't think there's very many women
that would uh that would take kindly to the same
(27:26):
level of critism. I also don't think it would be
delivered in the same way, if that makes sense. But
it is funny because it's totally like you. You and
I can laugh about your suit jacket. It's like if
one of the ladies on the view let's just make
it about the View for now, was told by somebody, hey,
your dress, you know, looks like you look like a
homeless person in that dress or something. They wouldn't find
that funny at all. They would be deeply offended. So
(27:48):
it's different. That's probably very true. But I will say, uh,
if you are on television a lot, my goal is, yes,
I'm fine looking like a nineteen seventy SEC basketball coach
because I don't want to only wear like a navy
blue blazer and a white shirt every single time that
(28:08):
I'm on. And I do think that certain shows like
Jesse Waters Got what I would say is more of
a comedic sensibility in terms of the way that he
does his show. Other shows are more serious, and so
I kind of match the clothing in my mind to
the content of the show like I would if I
(28:29):
were going on to talk about should Iran be bombed
or not? I wouldn't go on in, you know, like
a hot pink sports jacket i'd go on like in
traditional dour you know, navy blue or whatever else. So
I do think the sartorial choice, as it were, is
pegged in some way in my you know, peanut brain
(28:51):
here when it comes to fashion of corresponding to the
conversation so that it seems like it fits. Does that
make sense some guys yeah, absolutely, and some guys just
want to grow out here. Like vip email from Paul,
Paul says, any man that judges another man's clothing needs
his man card revoked. Only a man's wife can do that.
Otherwise leave me alone. I mean, this is not non
(29:14):
there are rules, This is not nomb There are in
fact rules. By the way, we'll get more of your talkbacks,
lots of funny comments rolling in, But this is what
I was talking about. Like sometimes you talk about serious things,
like the other day when I brought up the cosmetic
diversity inside of the gentlemen's clubs. Buck had a tough
time making the transition. This is not an easy transition
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so lots of people out there do not have the resources.
When I went to Israel, wide range of homes, wide
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(30:21):
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(33:09):
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So we got a whole bunch of exciting new stuff
coming your way on all that two September octok three
months until my book will be out. I've spent a
lot of time thinking about it. We've talked about it
on this program. It's all about how young men, sports fans,
and Trump were instrumental in winning the twenty twenty four election,
(33:30):
and in particular, it tries to address the topic we
talked about with Ryan Gerdusky, Why are so many young
men moving to the Republican Party. What in the culture
has created that dynamic. It's one that I think is
very significant and one that I've been grappling with quite
a lot. All right, let's get some funny talkbacks here,
buck Ee. Jessica from Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, burned during eighteen sixty four.
(33:55):
This is what I did my Civil War thesis on,
as all super nerds do. I'm sure Jessica's got my
back play it.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I wanted to tell you that I think Clay looks
like somebody from Miami vice that he could just go
right off in his convertible with those outfits that he wears.
I think it looks pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
But that's just me.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
But you know, Clay, do you you know, don't listen
to any of these people.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Does it sound to you a little bit? It sounds
like there's a little kid in the background there with Jessica.
Maybe she's hit the wine already.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Am I wrong? I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I don't want to play Jessica because she had my back.
But it sounds like there's a little kid in the
background there, sounds like Jessica. It's almost maybe almost three
o'clock on a Friday. It is Margarite, a happy hour
time and a lot of place. He don't blame any
mom out there who's had the kids home all summer.
It's Friday. Hey, husband's going to be home in a
little bit. Let's go ahead and hit the wine.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Doris from Lincoln, Nebraska, Cornhusker town. What you got for us?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Ff?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Hey, Clay, this is Doris for Lincoln, Nebraska, and I
think you got it going on. Just a little tweak
with the facial hair, get a great suit jacket, and
you have to remember you've been doing radio for years,
so it could take you a hot minute to get
snazzed up.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Is this coming? Was this kind of a backhanded I
think that's a little backhanded. I think she's I think
she's trying to be gentle on the approach, but I
think the final landing here you got roughed up. Buddy.
You look great, but you just need to change everything
about yourself. Is not necessarily an endorsement. If you just
changed your facial hair and your jackets and maybe stopped
(35:35):
smiling and got braces, you would just be amazing on television.
I will say this real, real quick, Clay, because you
know I do read books because I haven't been married
long and I'm trying to learn, and I do find
books are very helpful with things. One thing, for the
guys out there or for the ladies out there. Rather
with your men soft approach. All the research says, whenever
you want something, go soft approach. You know, you just
(35:57):
look so great today, husband, you're such a great husband,
and can you clean the darn yard? Like that's the
don't say it like that, but that's the way to
do it. Always go in soft and you'll get what
you want. My wife has never adopted that strategy. Maybe
I can book Let's go South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Geling good afternoon?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Uh, Clay, this comments for you. I just gotta say,
you gotta stop referring to Kamala as attractive. I mean,
Buck talked about Naomi uh Campbell earlier in the week.
I would even throw Tyra Banks out there, but Clay,
we got to stop. When in the laundry list of
her amazing dei uh you know, accomplishment and her resume,
(36:43):
please stop referring to her as attractive because come on, even.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Sorry she for a sixty year old woman, Kamala Harris
is attractive.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I mean, am I being an insult to her?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Can give her that
Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now. Our
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He is a star of the Clay in Buck podcast network.
His show, It's a Numbers Game for those of you
who just want to know what is the data telling us,
what is the reality of American politics based on the
fact the figures, all that good stuff. You want to
(00:20):
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Listen to It's a Numbers Game by Ryan ger Dusky.
Mister Ryan, good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Sir, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Let's talk what's the most interesting stuff you're seeing right now?
I mean I've seen some of the numbers for example.
I mean I was gonna just lay it out to you,
but actually I want to know about this. This switch
from Democrat to Republican for men. I think the number
that I saw was under forty basically, or maybe it's
under forty five over the last two years is stunning stuff.
(00:53):
Are those numbers real to you? Is the data good
on that? And what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So comes out of Pew research. If your research reported
that a party identification for men under the age of
thirty had a forty four point swing towards Republicans from
Republicans having thirty six percent to fifty two percent, and
among women under thirty there was a fourteen point swing
from women having thirty to thirty seven. Obviously, Democrats lost
(01:19):
seven in that mixus where you get the fourteen from? Now?
Is the numbers real? They're not based off of party
registration numbers, right, So they didn't go to every state
that registers people by party, and most states don't register
people by party, just registered to vote. But they went
through the overall How do you think of yourself overall?
Do you lean Republican? Any you lean Democrat? Interesting about
there's a man named David Shore, a very very smart
(01:42):
progressive data scientist. David Shore said that in the twenty
twenty four election, not only did Donald Trump win young
white men and young white women under the age of twenty,
he won young non white men under the age of
twenty and young white men under the age of twenty
were the most Republican group of voters in the country.
Trump when out seventy five percent of their support. So
(02:05):
do I think that it's true? Probably? I mean, there's
a lot of data to back that up that young
young men especially, but young white men especially are kind
of pedal to the metal for the Republican Party. Now
does that mean that they love Trump and everything he's done. No,
Trump's favorable numbers among young people is down. It's not
you know, in any situation where it's down like sixty
(02:26):
to seventy points, but it has gone down. Remember, when
someone's in office, numbers likely go down because you have
to make good in all your campaign promises. And Americans
are a very sickle bunch. We want things, we want
things immediately.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I would say this because I've got three young boys seventeen, fourteen,
and ten in my household, and I'm around their teams
that they're on and everything else. Ryan, What I see
is most seventeen year old, sixteen fourteen year olds that
they don't have advanced opinions on what tax policy should
be or how tariffs should be implemented. But what they
(03:01):
do see is a scolding, sort of school mom like
quality of the Democrat Party constantly wagging their finger at
young men. And I think this Sydney Sweeney American Eagle
ad is representative of that. How much of this do
you think is a cultural sort of counter revolution? To
(03:21):
the WO agenda that so many of these kids have
been raised in, because that's what I see as primarily
motivating this response.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, there's two things that are primarily motivating this response,
and I've spoken to a number of data analysts about this.
Data scientists. One was COVID. Right, kids, you grew up
with COVID losing graduation? It really was. I mean, I
don't want to sound over over extended when I say this,
but it is true. It was kind of like world
growing up during World War Two, or growing up during
the War on Terror, or growing up during Vietnam. It
(03:52):
is a defining thing for your generation that will impact
your politics. Probably.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, let me cut you off for a moment there,
because I do think a lot of people have miss this.
If you didn't get to go to prom, or you
didn't get to play your high school football season, and
a lot of these kids they're sixteen and suddenly they
don't go back to school again until they're eighteen. That's
such a formative, transformative era. I don't think that you're
over analyzing that. In fact, I think it's been under discussed.
(04:20):
I just want to kind of emphasize that aspect here
because I think it hasn't been talked about enough about
culturally right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And the other big thing that no one else has
talked about that a number of people brought ups me
is that older gen Zers right their parents are still
most are still like half baby boomers, which are now
becoming one of the more progressive. Younger baby boomers are
far more progressive than older baby boomers are. Most younger
gen Zers are almost all younger gen Zers parents are
(04:50):
gen Xers, and they are the most republican demographic in
the country today. So the who is these gen Zers
parents also plays a significant in part in why their
politics have shifted. Their politics are more right wing for
these kids, in part because the parents have changed and
the parents are more right wing than the parents that
came before. That plays a significant role in why these
(05:13):
kids are more younger. I mean, listen, if you grew
up and you were a baby boomer, and you were
a younger baby boomer, like let's say you're sixty now,
and your politics revolved around I don't know, not protesting
Viana more. You might have been too young for that,
but you remember it certainly. Versus if you are a
younger baby, if you're a gen xer, and you grew
(05:33):
up watching you know, Jay and silent Bob strikes back,
and you thought, you know, you were non conformists, and
you had Johnny Depp posted in your bedroom versus like
David Cassidy. That's an entirely different cultural reference point. And
a lot of gen Xers are more countercultural in that respect,
and they do had a non conformity and they don't
(05:54):
like authoritarianism, like the way we saw Duane Covid speaking.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
To Ryan orsin It's a numbers Game. Is this podcast
on the Clay Endbuck Network. So go it's a great
time to listen to it this weekend. Go check it out.
You'll be really up to speed.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Rian.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What else is really top of your radar for the
data out there to tell us about how things are
trending right now for Trump, the Republicans, the country at large.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Right So, there's a new poll out that I find
very very interesting. It's by a Democratic firm, so I'm
meant to take it with a big grain of salt,
but it is a question I have thought about over
and over, and that is Latinos who voted for Joe
Biden in twenty twenty and then Donald Trump and then
twenty twenty four, this is the group that will affect
a number of congressional districts. This is the group that
(06:39):
we are redistricting Texas around. Right. So the poll, which
once again is a Democratic polster, and they weren't particularly
amazing in during twenty twenty four, but they were like,
way way off, So it's called equis research. They said
that only eight percent of Latinos who voted for Donald
Trump in twenty twenty four plan on voting for the
Democrat in twenty twenty six. That is not a Mez
(07:00):
defection at all. Specifically among Biden Trump voters. These are
what they call the Biden defectors. A thirty percent say
they are planning on voting for the Democrat. That is
ten points down from three months ago that when said
forty percent woul vote for the Democrats. So of those
groups of people who are new to the Republican Party,
(07:20):
who have a long life, long history of voting for Democrats,
two out of three are not returning home for the
Democratic Party. I know you may say thirty percent is
a huge chunk, but in long trajectories of a long
history of when groups of people switch party, in vocation.
You're talking ethnic whites in the sixties, or Jews or
which not, or you know, working class people. There's always bumps,
(07:43):
ups and downs. They switch, they come back, they go,
they come back. But there's a trajectory that they'll pay
attention to. If you look at the Latina vote, the
working class Latino vote, the fact that two thirds are
sitting there and saying no, I'm probably either undecided or
I'm definitely sticking with the Republican Party that continue that
trajectory going forward. And it's just for the Democrats and
say you're not going to wake up and all of
(08:04):
a sudden being twenty twelve again, these people kind of
have come to stay and you're gonna have to either
figure out a new coalition or change your policies or
your vibes or whatever to bring them back. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Some people think that Kamala Harris has a political future.
Other people think that Kamala Harris is finished. What do
you think.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I am more of the side that Kamala Harris is
probably finished with politics. I don't think anyone in the
Democratic Party that I have spoken to, I know, you
know a few Democratic cans all who take her seriously,
and they didn't. Most did not take her seriously in
twenty twenty when she was vicked as the VP, and
they certainly didn't take her seriously now. No matter how
(08:49):
many bitches are in that she had the perfect campaign,
the perfect campaign generally leaves you in the White House.
She's going on, Stephen Colbert, It's a much different life.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
On the House for next year. The five potential editions
in Texas. There's lots of talk about a variety of
different state moves and everything else. But it seems to me,
and you correct me if I'm wrong, that everybody trying
to claim, oh, only one side jerry manders is completely wrong. Basically,
(09:21):
Red states are going to do whatever makes sense for
Red states by and large. Blue states are going to
do whatever makes sense for Blue states by and large.
If you assess the overall map, is one party more
or less guilty of jerrymandering than the other, And how
much movement do you think might happen before next year
when I think most people agree the House is likely
(09:43):
to come down to five or six seats, it's going
to be a fine line between who controls it.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, there is one party that overly jerry manners. And
that's Democrats. Remember, the Democrats don't have control of many
different states as reproportionment, right, they have control. In twenty twenty,
they had control essentially of seven states Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts,
and Rhode Island. Those are the only seven states they
had full control of. In all seven states, there are
(10:11):
a total of six elected Republicans out of dozens of
congressional seats. They jerrymandered them to the Republicans, the absolute
corners where they couldn't basically get rid of all of them,
but every chance that they had to get rid of them.
Oregon should have easily two republicans, Nevada two republicans, New
Mexico won, Maryland two, Illinois should have five or six,
Massachusetts should have won. They all have none. Now, if
(10:34):
you look at the Republican districts Texas, everyone's sing Texas, Texas.
You know, so jerrymandered. Texas is less jerrymandered than Illinois,
than Maryland, than New Jersey, than California, than Oregon, then
New Mexico, then all of these states. Right, they are
super super gerrymandered, and where they could knock Republicans off.
They did. The problem is Democrats have sat there and
(10:57):
changed to commission based redistricting, which has to at least
look semi fair, even when it's not in the case
of California and New Jersey and Washington. So Governor Gavin
Newsom pouting his chest, saying I'm going to fight you know,
I'm going to fight abbit, and I'm going to change
these my lines and I'm going to give Democrats six
new seats is impossible. Sure so is like a flying pig.
(11:20):
It's not really ever going to happen because it would
take so many hurdles to have to do a constituial convention.
If the past two thirds majority have to go to
a vote for the people, millions of dollars in several
years would have to be spent order for Gavin Newsom
to get that. Same thing with New York, same thing
with New Jersey is people pouting their chests and pretending
like Democrats have been working, you know, in such a
(11:40):
sanctimonious way to give fair representation, are lying to themselves,
and most of are lying to the voters about how
they're going to fight back. It's basically to sit there
and say, uh, you know I'm going to be the
candidate to take on Trump when they run for president
in four years.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Who is the lead of the Democrat Party right now
as far as you can see, Ryan, Because Kamala was
asked last night on Colbert and didn't even She didn't
do what I would expect the Democrat to do, which
is say, oh, we have so many people and rattle
off the first four or five names that come to mind.
She said nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
What are you say?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, isn't that typical of Kamala Harris to say nothing?
I would sit there and say it's probably Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
As a right, I think Bernie Sanders. Wow, I thought
you were gonna say newsome Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, No, it's not even close. Bernie has the highest
air ability rating of any elected Democrat. Second is AOC.
The progressive wing is on the rise, and there's just
no there's no derailing it at this point. And you
know we are we They're going to switch the chairs
in the deck on the Titanic. The Dextro's Undertannic to
try to get more moderates to be elected. They'll move
(12:46):
the primaries of South Carolina. They do everything they can.
But we are just you know, maybe an election cycle
maybe two away from the Democrats going full Mandannie nationwide
and that you know, we're just going to be in
a new progressive face where they go far left on
a number of issues.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Let me let me make the case.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And I want to get your reaction quickly here if
I'm advising Kamala, right, I'm not saying that I agree
with all of this all right, just to be fair,
but I look at guys who and gals who are
likely to run. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Witmer, Josh Shapiro, Andy Basheer, JB. Pritzker,
(13:25):
and all of these so called may or Pete. Many
of them are basically white people, right, that are attempting
to persuade college educated white voters that they're the right choice.
Like Mayor Pete, for instance, has zero percent support among
black people. Meanwhile, you know, if you're a if you're
(13:46):
a college educated woman out there, you love him, right,
He is your favorite gay friend.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
And so and so.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
If you look on the minority side, right, Corey Booker
is a joke, right. I mean, every time a guy
opens his mouth, he looks like crazy eyes from the
curb your enthusiasm. I mean, he just looks like an
insane person. I think he has no larger political future.
Wes Moore is uncertain AOC. My point is, if you're
looking at the minority black side of the Democrat Party,
(14:16):
if I'm advising Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams is done, Karen
bass is done. There's almost no one else in that lane,
and she doesn't have to be hugely popular. She just
has to get that twenty five percent. Am I crazy?
Or who is going to contend with her for that
lane if she were to run.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, the one thing I would say, I understand your presumption,
but I just want to put one little context in
here is that the black vote, especially in the South,
doesn't always vote for the black candidate. They vote for
the candidate I think can win. They are much more
modern and pragmatic than I think you're giving them credit for.
So I would sit there and say, if you're Kamala Harrison,
you want to have a footprint in politics, realizing that
(14:57):
your weaknesses as a candidate, I would go and do it.
Richard Nixon did former Sewer pak campaign for the next
Democrat be a king Maker and then if they don't win,
come under your white horse and give it eight years
in the wil dreness. She can afford that time if
she wants to do that. I don't think she even can.
But I don't think the presumption is that the black
vote is going to only vote for a black candidate.
(15:18):
I think that they're going to they'll be okay with
a black candidate being on the ticket, But I don't
think that they need a black candidate because in a
long history from Clinton owards, remember Clinton ran against Jesse Jackson,
I mean, and Obama was the only one today sat there,
so that we have to have it. So I think
that they're more pragmatic than that and more.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Modern good stuff.
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Thank you.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Thanks to Gary.
Gary reached out discussing my wardrobe. Clay, the gentleman that
called in regarding your clothing is absolutely correct. Your shirt
collar sag. Your sports coach don't fit properly. The shoulders
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Do we have to call it fashion now? I don't know,
but the lines mots lives are absolutely hysterical. On Gary,
(19:07):
every sentence I was reading his email to me, every
every his every sentence gets worse. Gary and you that
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thing today that someone has said into the show. So
Gary wins the prize so far, but we had say
we've got some other good stuff going on here. I
gotta say we got some talkbacks are now back in action,
(19:28):
right so we can take these.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, we're black firing this.
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I'm just gonna say, Rob is coming to your Rob
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This is for Clay.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Hey, I used to listen to you in the morning
before you got the Rush show. You dress like a
SEC coach from the.
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That was hilarious.
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I like the Animal Thunderdome idea. We've talked about this,
but you dressing like a seventies coach from the SEC Clay,
that is a very good line. So you know we're
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He just had a baby and he's like, Hey, I
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and we will have some fun with it there. I
mentioned earlier this is probably that I have not known
(21:10):
what my wife should wear to any event for twenty
one years of marriage. And in fact, oftentimes it will
be if Buck's going, for instance, she'll just be like, well,
just tell me what Carrie's gonna wear. Let me talk
with carry about what she's gonna because I have no idea.
I did tell her once what to wear to an event.
I swear this is true. We were going to a
Nashville Predator's hockey playoff game, and I had gone to
(21:33):
the one right before that. She hadn't been to it
one a while. She's like, well, what do people wear?
And I said, well, they dress pretty nice. I thought,
like I thought everybody was dressed pretty nice. So I
don't know what she wore, but she overdressed. And for
a decade now she has been referencing the fact that
the one time I tried to give her advice, I
told her to dress too nicely for a sporting event.
(21:53):
So I'm just out of the game. But Anna has
Anna from Utah has some advice here d D one
oh five point nine k n RS radio, Hey Clay.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Missus Anna from Utah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I'm a bike listening to you, guys.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I gotta say that the reason your wife doesn't ask
you what she she should actually wear is because your
answer will most likely be do you have to wear anything?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You look great naked?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Talk to you later.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Whoa Banna Anna on this? She's on her peloton bike.
It sounds like they're that's a good answer. That's a
good answer, and certainly I don't complain. Does La does
Laura ever throw this one? In your face, because this
happens sometimes with Carrie. Uh where where she goes which
one of these do you like? And then she'll go
You're just gonna like the tight one more, aren't you?
And I'm like, I mean, I'm a I'm a dude,
(22:43):
you know, Like what can I do?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You know this, I've talked about this before. My wife,
Uh does garage shells yard sell I don't. This has
turned into a huge battle me pointing out that uh.
And I think my friend Nate Bargatsy like actually heard
this and has got a huge comedia griff on it.
You know, positive, we get like five dollars negative. Somebody
shows up at the house and like, murders you. She's
(23:08):
been doing these yard sales forever, right, like garage sales
whatever you want to say, and the amount of effort
and energy that goes into it. But to your point, Buck,
there's a couple of times where she's put dresses up
and I know nothing, but I'm like, this is an
amazing dress and she's like, well, I'm getting too old
to wear you know that dress? Right, It's it's a
little bit too sexy. You know, I got three kids.
Every time that not. I disagree. I think we got
(23:29):
to take that one out of the pile. So yes,
the answer is probably going to be yes, legs a
little bit of a cleavage. I'm not going to complain
about it, but but yes, the uh the Gary email here,
I'm still laughing about it. If you missed it, Here's
what Gary had to say. The gentleman that called in
regarding your clothing is absolutely correct. It's and buck. What
I noticed is each sentence gets a little bit worse.
(23:51):
It's like different body blows. Your shirt, collars sag, your
sports coaches don't fit properly, the shoulders look like you
have footballs on. And then the coupdi gras here. This
is like the Mike Tyson uppercut back in the nineteen eighties.
Your beard has the appearance of a homeless person. Please
get some advice. You have the money, Gary, So, Gary
(24:15):
has definitely come off the top. I will tell you,
you know, I when I met with Trump in twenty twenty,
this is this photo is still available online, so I'm
probably asking to get ripped again for it. But when
I saw Trump in May of twenty twenty, which was
you know right, it was peak COVID, But I still
went to the White House then and spent you know,
forty minutes sitting down with President Trump. I hadn't been
(24:36):
able to get a haircut because there was no hair cutting,
and and I hadn't done anything, and the gyms were closed.
So this is my way of saying, I looked perhaps
like a chubby vagrant with you know, and I just
remember just getting ripped and I was like, really, guys,
no no grace during COVID, even for like gaining a
few lb. Because I looked a little a little overstuffed
(24:58):
in the suit and I hadn't gotten.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
The hair cut.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Man, people are harsh. People were radio hosts. You know,
we're not ever Crombie models. Before I started doing television,
I had and I'm sure this is probably true for women.
In fact, I think people may be meaner to men
because men don't typically put as much stake in appearance.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I know that what blew me away when I started
doing television about a decade ago, because I started off
doing writing and then moved into radio television a decade
plus whatever it is roughly i've been doing it. I
thought people would react to what I said, the overwhelming
majority of people react not to what you say, but
to what you look like while you're saying it. And
(25:44):
I do think that that's something that most people don't
contemplate very much. So you know, I'm not a morning person.
And I remember I did.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
This is many years ago. I did a Fox and
Friends hit and it was in the maybe it was
like the six thirty or seven am kind of.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I was this when I lived in New York
and I got there and I was in person the
studio and and someone, as someone described, you know when
you when you've been sleeping and like your hair in
the back, Yeah, you have like tod head going on. Yeah, right,
but it was in the back so I couldn't so
I thought I was fine, And he said, dude, you
when I when my head turned on set, you had
a shark fin coming out of shark fin coming out
(26:23):
of the back. And I saw it and I did
have this like pointy triangle of hair off the back
of my head, which and by the way, that's all
any that's all anyone notices. You go on TV. I
could be giving out the formula for coca Cola pure
and if I have a shark fin because of BedHead
off the back of my head, that's all that anyone
in the comments is going to talk about. But I'd
say this, when you're a guy in broadcasting, people who
(26:44):
like you still and like are on your team will
make fun of your appearance and like it's all in
you know, we take it and whatever. Even if you
know someone saying, buck, you've gained a little weight or
a lot of weight or whatever it is. I think
if you're a lady in broadcasting, none of your everyone
knows that, no, no, don't you don't attack a lady,
good parents. If you're actually a fan, like you can
(27:04):
be a fan of a guy in broadcasting and make
fun of him for that stuff, and it's like we're
all still friends. I think only people that are trying
to tear down a woman in broadcasting attack or appearance
like nobody would find you know what I mean, it's
it's yeah, no, it's not. I think that's I think
that's probably true. I don't think there's very many women
that would uh that would take kindly to the same
(27:26):
level of critism. I also don't think it would be
delivered in the same way, if that makes sense. But
it is funny because it's totally like you. You and
I can laugh about your suit jacket. It's like if
one of the ladies on the view let's just make
it about the View for now, was told by somebody, hey,
your dress, you know, looks like you look like a
homeless person in that dress or something. They wouldn't find
that funny at all. They would be deeply offended. So
(27:48):
it's different. That's probably very true. But I will say, uh,
if you are on television a lot, my goal is, yes,
I'm fine looking like a nineteen seventy SEC basketball coach
because I don't want to only wear like a navy
blue blazer and a white shirt every single time that
(28:08):
I'm on. And I do think that certain shows like
Jesse Waters Got what I would say is more of
a comedic sensibility in terms of the way that he
does his show. Other shows are more serious, and so
I kind of match the clothing in my mind to
the content of the show like I would if I
(28:29):
were going on to talk about should Iran be bombed
or not? I wouldn't go on in, you know, like
a hot pink sports jacket i'd go on like in
traditional dour you know, navy blue or whatever else. So
I do think the sartorial choice, as it were, is
pegged in some way in my you know, peanut brain
(28:51):
here when it comes to fashion of corresponding to the
conversation so that it seems like it fits. Does that
make sense some guys yeah, absolutely, and some guys just
want to grow out here. Like vip email from Paul,
Paul says, any man that judges another man's clothing needs
his man card revoked. Only a man's wife can do that.
Otherwise leave me alone. I mean, this is not non
(29:14):
there are rules, This is not nomb There are in
fact rules. By the way, we'll get more of your talkbacks,
lots of funny comments rolling in, But this is what
I was talking about. Like sometimes you talk about serious things,
like the other day when I brought up the cosmetic
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So we got a whole bunch of exciting new stuff
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a lot. All right, let's get some funny talkbacks here,
buck Ee. Jessica from Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, burned during eighteen sixty four.
(33:55):
This is what I did my Civil War thesis on,
as all super nerds do. I'm sure Jessica's got my
back play it.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I wanted to tell you that I think Clay looks
like somebody from Miami vice that he could just go
right off in his convertible with those outfits that he wears.
I think it looks pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
But that's just me.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
But you know, Clay, do you you know, don't listen
to any of these people.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Does it sound to you a little bit? It sounds
like there's a little kid in the background there with Jessica.
Maybe she's hit the wine already.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Am I wrong? I don't want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I don't want to play Jessica because she had my back.
But it sounds like there's a little kid in the
background there, sounds like Jessica. It's almost maybe almost three
o'clock on a Friday. It is Margarite, a happy hour
time and a lot of place. He don't blame any
mom out there who's had the kids home all summer.
It's Friday. Hey, husband's going to be home in a
little bit. Let's go ahead and hit the wine.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Uh.
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Doris from Lincoln, Nebraska, Cornhusker town. What you got for us?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Ff?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Hey, Clay, this is Doris for Lincoln, Nebraska, and I
think you got it going on. Just a little tweak
with the facial hair, get a great suit jacket, and
you have to remember you've been doing radio for years,
so it could take you a hot minute to get
snazzed up.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Is this coming? Was this kind of a backhanded I
think that's a little backhanded. I think she's I think
she's trying to be gentle on the approach, but I
think the final landing here you got roughed up. Buddy.
You look great, but you just need to change everything
about yourself. Is not necessarily an endorsement. If you just
changed your facial hair and your jackets and maybe stopped
(35:35):
smiling and got braces, you would just be amazing on television.
I will say this real, real quick, Clay, because you
know I do read books because I haven't been married
long and I'm trying to learn, and I do find
books are very helpful with things. One thing, for the
guys out there or for the ladies out there. Rather
with your men soft approach. All the research says, whenever
you want something, go soft approach. You know, you just
(35:57):
look so great today, husband, you're such a great husband,
and can you clean the darn yard? Like that's the
don't say it like that, but that's the way to
do it. Always go in soft and you'll get what
you want. My wife has never adopted that strategy. Maybe
I can book Let's go South Dakota.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Geling good afternoon?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Uh, Clay, this comments for you. I just gotta say,
you gotta stop referring to Kamala as attractive. I mean,
Buck talked about Naomi uh Campbell earlier in the week.
I would even throw Tyra Banks out there, but Clay,
we got to stop. When in the laundry list of
her amazing dei uh you know, accomplishment and her resume,
(36:43):
please stop referring to her as attractive because come on, even.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Sorry she for a sixty year old woman, Kamala Harris
is attractive.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I mean, am I being an insult to her?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Can give her that
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