October 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a mix of hard-hitting political analysis, cultural commentary, and lighter moments as Halloween approaches. The hour opens with updates on the government shutdown, highlighting CNN’s own polling that shows Democrats bearing the brunt of voter blame while Republicans see a boost in approval ratings. Clay and Buck argue this dynamic will force Democrats to seek an off-ramp after next week’s elections.
The conversation then pivots to Gavin Newsom’s credibility crisis, exposing his contradictory statements about Charlie Kirk and his son’s alleged fandom. The hosts play clips showing Newsom first praising Kirk to appear bipartisan, then denying it later—underscoring what they call his pattern of dishonesty and opportunism ahead of a likely Newsom vs. Kamala Harris showdown for the Democratic nomination. Buck and Clay dissect Newsom’s recent claim that Joe Biden was “one of the most successful presidents of the last century”, framing it as a strategic move to court Biden loyalists while positioning himself as the heir apparent.
Next, the show spotlights Kamala Harris’s rocky book tour in Australia, where ABC journalist Sarah Ferguson grills her on Biden’s frailties and debate performance. The hosts critique Harris’s evasive answers and reliance on scripted talking points, predicting these vulnerabilities will haunt her in a primary battle against Newsom.
Sports and culture collide when Clay and Buck blast ESPN analyst Ryan Clark for politicizing LSU football coverage with attacks on Louisiana’s governor over a proposed Charlie Kirk statue. They argue this reflects the growing politicization of sports media and its disconnect from mainstream America.
The hour also features an in-depth interview with Indiana Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith, who details the state’s urgent push for redistricting to counter Democratic gerrymandering in states like Illinois and California. Beckwith explains the stakes: adding two congressional seats for Republicans, combating complacency in deep-red Indiana, and meeting tight deadlines before candidate filing in January. The discussion underscores how redistricting battles could reshape the 2025 political map.
Clay and Buck close Hour 3 with lighter fare, debating Halloween candy rankings—crowning Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups as the ultimate treat—while joking about dad taxes, Tootsie Rolls, and underrated Payday bars. They also share personal anecdotes about family Halloween traditions and tease upcoming solo hosting duties and Julie Talbot’s induction into the Radio Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
O welcome in our number three Thursday edition. It is
Halloween Eve and Buck has just not even had to
dress up, although he does look like a Latin music
star now with his new haircut, and he now as
if he's not getting enough attention with the new haircut.
For those of you watching on YouTube, where you should
go and subscribe to the Clay and Buck YouTube channel,
(00:22):
we have got a happy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Beaming baby boy who is right there on the screen.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And if you want to have a nice smile, how
old exactly is he now?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Six months? Baby Speed is six months old.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Six months happy, smiling, gurgling, giggling. I remember, and I
bet a lot of you do that. Around six months
is when you start to get a really fun baby
that's reacting and interacting with you on a regular basis.
So baby boy there for those of you who are
YouTube subscribers and want to be entertained and have a
(00:58):
smile put on your face. One day in advance of Halloween,
we got a bunch of different stuff to dive into.
We've been discussing Trump on it right now in the
air on his way back from his meeting with Chinese
President z and we have been discussing that impact. We
(01:19):
played at the end of the last hour Harry Inton
pointing out, as we have discussed that the overall support
for climate change insanity, even in the Democrat Party, has
begun to collapse, and that was reinforced this week as
Bill Gates suddenly decided to come out and say, hey, actually,
we're not all going to die of climate change. So
(01:40):
that religion on the left is falling apart. And this
is the data on the shutdown that also was on CNN.
So if you're out there and you're saying, okay, well,
Clay and Buck are saying that this is politically not
going well for Democrats. But what are they saying on
CNN and MSNBC, Well, they're out telling their viewers, hey,
(02:02):
this shutdown is being placed. The blame is on Democrats.
This is what Harry Inton said. Based on the polling
on CNN.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge
of both the House and the Senate, that a government
shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand, but in.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Fact it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a
look here the shift in net popularity versus pre shutdown
among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,
that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin verraa,
but clearly it hasn't dropped.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Come over this side of the screen.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress.
It's actually up five points since pre shutdown.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's rallying the base for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Look at this, the net approval rating up twelve points
versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base.
It's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at
this among independents, it's up.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Eight points as well.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So we've got a situation here where Republicans with this
shutdown are actually rallying their base, but it's also something
that's not.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hurting them with the folks in the milk.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, so that is what they heard on CNN. That's
what I wanted to play for you, and that's why
Buck and I both believe that soon after the election
next week, Democrats are going to try to find an
off ramp to end this government shutdown. Okay, let me
play a couple of cuts here that I thought were
interesting because we can talk about Kamala and Newsom a bit.
(03:21):
Buck Gavin Newsom, I think is a liar on a
level that we may not have ever seen before when
it comes to just saying the exact opposite of what
he has said before. Do you remember when he started
his podcast, the first guest I believe he had was
Charlie Kirk and he told Charlie, hey, my son is
(03:45):
a big fan of yours, and this is one reason
why I wanted to have you on the idea that
I want to talk to people of divergent backgrounds. That
was what he said. If you don't remember, you can
hear him say it yourself.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Last night, try to put my son to bed, He's like, no, Dad,
I just what time? What time is Charlie gonna be here?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What time?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school to m while
he's thirteen. He's like, no, no, this morning, wakes up and
sticks up and he's like, I'm coming. I'm like, he
literally would not leave the house.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Did you let him take off school? No?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
He did, of course not.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He's not here for a good reason.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But the point is the canceled school for like two
years on the point is the point, which is you
are making a damn dead I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Kidding, okay, and he said, my son's a fan, all
right now, just I think yesterday, Gavin Newsom, continuing the
media rounds, Oh, my son's not actually a fan of
Charlie Kirk. I never said that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Listen. Your son obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. What
was the conversation like between you and your son after
Charlie Kirk was assassin.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So he called me.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I don't know how he got a phone, but he
called me from school that day and I really alarmed,
and all his friends were around the phone that wanted
me to shout express or understand what was going on.
He wanted to know if he was dead. He wasn't
a fan of him as much. She's so was familiar
with him.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean, he said, come on, it's just so petty
and slimy. Clearly, Gavin Newsom is a guy who says
one thing to one person and another thing to another,
depending on the needs of the moment. But you know,
Charlie was assassinated. He's gone, he's left behind his widows kids.
Your son obviously is a fan. Why do that? Why
(05:26):
be so petty, so lacking in honor and integrity? Well,
because you're Gavin Newsom and that's who you are.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think that's just a perfect example that we just
played of what his presidential campaign is gonna be. Like,
he's just gonna lie about things that you know he does.
He said the opposite of just a few months ago.
It's not hard to find. This is one reason I
do believe that trust in legacy media has collapsed, because
(05:55):
a lot of you, in the back of your mind,
you'd be like, I don't think they've been consistent on that.
And then on social media you have people who are
skilled and will go grab and put those side by side.
I would encourage our team if we can put those
two clips side by side and share that from Clay
and Buck. Look, if Gavin Newsom was continuing to say
(06:19):
that his son was a fan of Charlie Kirk, I
would you know, say, okay, I mean, his kids can
have different political opinions than him, But to just transparently
say the opposite of what you said in the past,
I just it's it's just evidence of what's coming. Prepare yourselves.
By the way, this just happened on CNN, sorry on ESPN.
(06:40):
It's not a lot of difference. Honestly, ESPN is often.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
M CNN might be a little more right wing than ESPN,
that actually that actually may well be true. They just
had this racist. More on Ryan Clark, who ESPN should
fire if they had a sense of just an iota
of intelligence. He's on talking about LSU, they fired their coach,
(07:04):
but he takes a shot at the governor of ls
of Louisiana over this LSU job and said it's the
second dumbest thing he said this week. The other was
that the governor of Louisiana said, Hey, we should think
about maybe putting a statue up of Charlie Kirk. Listen
to what you would have just heard if you were
watching CNN. I'm sorry that is funny, though CNN more
(07:28):
is fairer than ESPN.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If you're watching ESPN, you're just like, hey, I want
to see what's going to happen in tonight's game between
the Ravens and the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is what you might have heard.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
This is the second most ridiculous thing he said this week.
The first was standing on campus is saying he wanted
to put a statue up with somebody that doesn't represent
the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players and the
students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that worked there.
That was the first dumb thing he said this week.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
This is the second.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Dumbest, right, amongst a lot of dumb things that he says.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, so just teeing off on the governor of Louisiana
on a random sports show over the governor saying, hey,
maybe we should put a statue up of Charlie Kirk, which,
by the way, the vast majority of Louisiana Natives they
do agree with Charlie Kirk. They voted for Trump by
twenty two points sixty two I think to about to
(08:23):
about thirty eight something like that, So twenty four to
twenty three, twenty two points, pretty significant win for Trump
and Louisiana. But that's the kind of conversation that you
see when you're not tuning in for it. And I
just they got to fire that guy. I mean, he
is he is epically dumb and racist. That's a bad combo.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It does seem like there's no IQ requirement for sports commentary.
I'll just say some of the things that I hear
from the sports commentariat present company, of course greatly excluded
I'm amazed that they're paid to say anything on television
about anyone, especially when they veer off into anything politically related.
But yeah, not not nice. Not nice what he said?
(09:05):
He did not like it. Not a nice thing. All right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I've also got for you, Buck your girl Kamala. I
guess she's technically my girl because I think she's gonna run.
She is an Australian now, I believe is that is
that accurate? She's doing hers open to sell a lot
of books in Melbourne. Yeah, she is Melbourne as they
pronounced it. I was told there you go, look at
me knowing how to pronounce a word.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We've got. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I want to make sure that I get this person
right because uh, she really kind of got to push here.
This is the Australian Broadcasting Corporations Sarah Ferguson. Listen to
how much she goes after Kamala here Buck for ducking
questions about Biden's decline cut.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
For you combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what
was that play in terms of massive amounts of misinteristance
for me? Now to give me I wanted a calendar
in terms of yes, the clerk I want to interrupt you,
because that is a world class pivot.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
But it is not the question that I asked you,
which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own
frailties and what that did to you. The question is
about Joe Biden. Are you still reluctant to criticize the
former president in what regard?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Please?
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Well, just in terms of that question, so you went exactly.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Would you like to ask be more specific if you
don't mind, Was.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
It Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own
frailties in that position, to put you in the position
that made it almost impossible to win that race.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
He was not frail as president of the United States,
but he had frailties. We all saw the debate.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to
be president of the United States, and I have never
doubted that he had the capacity to be president of
the United States. If you want to talk about whether
he had the ability to endure what a race for
president of the United States would require in that political
(11:07):
environment in twenty twenty four, As I've said in the book,
I had concern.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, did she pushes a gad here book.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
This is I don't know anything about Sarah Ferguson, but
I kind of like when people get called out like
this cut five.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question? And we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Head answered that question. I do not believe.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his
acuity wasn't present.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
In the book, and I also mentioned the context in
which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how I
talked about that in terms of what his travel schedule
had been, that what he had been enduring in terms
of the timing of that debate. I can talk about
at it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away
from that. So I wrote it in the book because
(12:04):
I do know it's a question people had.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Can I just say it's very clear that she's been
coached to say it's in the book, which she did
not write. Mind you, as a dodge whenever someone tries to.
It's in the book. I wrote about it in the book. Okay,
the interviewers asking you a question. I read the book,
which is a garbage book and clearly written by committee
(12:28):
of ghostwriters. Clay, she's being asked a very straightforward question,
and this is what I've said all along, for which
she has no good answer. Yeah. How is it that you,
on the one hand, say you were put in an
impossible situation to win this last election? But you think
(12:49):
Joe Biden was okay to be president because you didn't
notice any of the dementia stuff. But you understand that
there were concerns about him being in a presidential campaign.
And yet it doesn't make any sense. Now you put
these things together. You go, oh, hold on a minute.
So it's his fault, but it's not his fault. But
(13:11):
he could have been president, but he shouldn't have been president.
But Clay, this is the same thing with Greene, Jean Pierre.
They are caught in an unwinnable position because they were
all lying.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yes, and we all know and the king liar, Let
me bring it back, because I think you're gonna see
Gavin Newsom versus Kamala Harris Gavin Newsom said, Joe Biden.
This is what he also said in addition to getting
caught in wise about Charlie kirk Buck. He said, Joe
Biden is one of the most successful presidents in the
(13:41):
last century cut seventeen.
Speaker 10 (13:44):
It's a revolution that's going on in this country, and
I think you have to start using those words. He's
attacking every single institution of independent thinking, and he's succeeding
because we're still playing by the old set of rules.
And so my party needs to focus first and foremost
(14:05):
on recognizing that, and then we'll reconcile being more culturally normal,
more reform oriented, talk about service and patriotism, and will
continue to build on the legacy I would argue of
our former president who I think was one of the
most successful presidents in the last century, and that is
Joe Biden. And I will defend that to my grave.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, And it's very clear what he's doing here. He
is just grabbing the mantle of I'm your nominee. Guys,
just to be clear, I'm the Yeah, Biden was great, right,
you all voted for Biden. Every Democrat, Clay voted for Biden. Right, Yes,
So he's just saying, and a lot to make it
might be dead voted Biden too. Yeah, that's a good point.
A lot of people that aren't even American citizens might
(14:48):
have been Biden too. He is just saying, I'm here
for you. You didn't do something dumb. Biden was great. I'll
be even greater. This is a total audience in's power grab,
right or voter slash audience power grab. He's just reaching
right over and saying, hey, all you Biden people, I'm
(15:09):
the one that you need. Don't worry about all this
stuff about the dementia. We don't have to talk about that.
He was great. He was great.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Vote Gavin Newsom, I know exactly what he's doing. Oh,
I mean, it's gonna be Gavin against Kamala. I think
it's comma.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, this is why I think she's gonna have to
think long and hard about this, because you know, when
power is on the line and legacy, Gavin Newsom, he Clay,
he will be able to pummel Kamala's campaign into smithereens
on this issue. You think that random Australian journalists was tough,
(15:43):
just wait till evil keleanu Reeves gets her.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I did love. You could tell Kamala was getting pissed.
She was like, who put this, this, ause this, all
these negative words? Who put her in front of me,
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by the Lieutenant Governor of Indiana. We just
met him up at Fort Wayne where we were celebrating
the one hundredth anniversary of a great legacy radio station,
Whoe Wo up there, and when we met you, mister
(19:11):
Lieutenant Governor, there was a lot of uncertainty about what
exactly Indiana was going to do when it came to redistricting,
and we said, well, we'll bring you on to talk.
Since we talked with you up in Fort Wayne, things
have evolved. What is the latest you can tell us
about the idea of redistricting in the state of Indiana
(19:32):
and what's to come.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Well, we're in
the battle right now. The governor called it. President Trump
is absolutely on point pushing states to do this. The
government called the special session just a couple of days ago,
and now we're trying to get the Republican Senate supermajority
and the Republican super majority in the House to actually
(19:55):
come back and actually do their duty. And there's been
questions on does the governor, according to the state constitution,
actually have the authority to set the time in place
he calls the special session. But now they're saying, well,
he can't set the time in place, which what they're
trying to do. Some of these little bit more I
would say moderate or not America first type senators and
(20:17):
House members are trying to say the governor can't tell
us when to come back, so they're going to probably
maybe try to kick this can down the road to
a point where we may not be able to do it.
So we're really trying to say, hey, guys, you need
to come back and do this. We need to get
Indiana's voice back and claw it back from the blue
states that have stolen it through gerrymandering and four census
(20:40):
data and nefarious actions.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So that's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 12 (20:44):
And I was the first day wide official to you know,
jump on and say, hey, President Trump is right, He's
taught us how to fight as Republicans.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Let's do this. It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So what is the current status in your state, Lieutenant
governor of the German and give us a sense of this,
because I think people are shocked to find out when
they actually you know, most of us think of our
We think of who has control in Congress, what the
raw numbers are, and who's our congressman, and maybe our
own state. But for people finding out, for example, what
(21:15):
the gerrymandering in say New England looks like, it's pretty
shocking when you get into it. How is it in
your state.
Speaker 12 (21:23):
Well, it's very not jerrymandered. I mean, if you look
at our districts. I mean, they're almost this square blocks
as you can get. There's no drawing these weird lines
that are going through random cities.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
And Illinois. If you look at Illinois, they're really jerrymandered.
Speaker 12 (21:37):
I mean there's one district that looks like a snake
just slithering through the whole central part of the state
from the west to the east.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And but we don't do that in Indiana.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
And we're getting screwed because we're trying to play fair,
and the states like Illinois and the New England states
in California are.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Stealing our boats.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
They're watering down our Republican voices, and so we just
finally said enough is enough, fight fire with fire. It's
time to Actually, we're going to get two more seats.
And it's nine to zero, is what the goal. We
should have nine Republicans representing us in Congress and zero Democrats.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
That's what we should be we should be fighting for.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What's the timeframe under which you think this will happen.
I think it's eight to one right now if I'm
not mistaken. So this would add one more congressional district
to the Republican lineup. Is that right or what's the
current status, and what's the time frame.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's seven and or seven to two right now. So
we have seven Republicans who Democrats, so this would add
two more nine to zero.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
And it's got to be done quick because we've got
to have our time for our Secretary State to get
the ballots out. I mean, filing is January in Indiana.
So if we don't, we can't really file for running
for anything if you don't know the districts. And so
we got probably only a window of may be a
couple more weeks here, and so that's why it's really
(23:03):
coming down to the wire. That's why I'm concerned that
the legislature is just trying to trying to install this.
They're trying to say, hey, okay, fine, you can call
special session, Governor, but you know, we're we're just not
going to come back. We'll do it five months from now.
That's when we'll come back. And it's like, no, that's
not the intention of.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
The framers of the Indiana State Constitution.
Speaker 12 (23:21):
They wouldn't have given the governor the authority to call
a special session under our four of our state Constitution and.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Not let him set the time in the place and so.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
That's where that's the battle we're at right now. I
think we'll get there, guys, I really do. But it's
just it's just unfortunate in a state like Indiana, which
is a super red state, should be the most mega
America first state and the whole Union following President Trump's lead,
and here we are just kind of saying, man, I
hope we can get this ball over the end zone
over the end zone.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So how is it to get people motivated? I think
that another thing that you deal with in a place
like Indiana, it's a great state, is you know, we
were just there, we got to hang out with you
bit and who woa land Uh. But because you're you're
so read, do you ever have an issue with people
thinking that it's all in the bag so they don't
necessarily get as mobilized on things like this redistricting as
(24:13):
they need to. And and and you know, how do
you focus in on a place where we feel solid
and republican, in a state where you feel solid and
republican that things like this come up and they do
need the attention of of the voters.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 12 (24:27):
Complacency is our is our worst enemy in Indiana because uh,
you know, people just kind of say, okay, hey, we're read,
we're good and and and you try to you try
to help them. Remember, well, what happens is sometimes these
these politicians get really comfortable and they realize, I mean,
I've I've heard some senators say I'm not worried because
i can be a no, and i can be a
(24:48):
strong no, and I'm not worried about it because I'm
never going to have a general opponent. We have some
some senators and reps that don't even get general opponents
in some cases, and and some of these districts from Democrats.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
That's how the Democrat party is in Indiana.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
But we get really lazy as a Republican party, and
we start we start, you know, seeing that play out
in real time. And then you also get the typical
Democrat who knows they can't win as a Democrat in Indiana,
so they'll run as a Republican and they they basically
imfiltrate the party and then they try to water down
the party and move the party back further to the left.
(25:25):
And and so that's that those are the problems that
we wrestle with. And so we're you know the governor myself.
I mean, I think some real strong conservatives saying listen,
we will work actively to primary people if we need to.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We don't. We hope we don't have to.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
But gosh, if we can't save our republic from this
Marxist leftist takeover that the Democrat Party has become, then
what are you doing, Like, get out of the way
and let real patriots get in there and fight.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
We need fighters now more than ever.
Speaker 13 (25:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Speaking of fighters, Indiana Hoosiers are I think one of
the best teams, certainly in college football and right now
the best record in the NFL as the Indianapolis Colts.
When did Indiana become a football state? And we're all asking,
do you guys still or have you just got to switch?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I no, I think we're still good at basketball. But
you know, I'm just shocked.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It's awesome.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Listen, we got I you Hoosiers number two, We got
the Colts, the best team in the NFL. You know
we had the Pacers made it to the finals, the
Fever almost made it to the finals. I mean, listen, hey, listen,
we could potentially think about this.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We could potentially.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
See I you and Notre Dame in the National Championship
this year. How cool would that be in college football
if that, if that actually happened. So, I mean, Indiana
has become a sports mecca of the.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
World right now. And then you got you know, Ims
the Speedway.
Speaker 12 (26:48):
I mean, we are becoming the place that the world
wants to come to you and it's awesome and I'm
so proud of the state.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Now, if you guys just could be good at basketball
at the Indiana Hoosiers. Again, I know Purdue's doing well,
but are you well.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You know, we need Gene Hackman to come back and
help us.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So that was one of the great all time movies. Hey,
we appreciate I did watch the excuse me for a
second here, I did a sports knowledge to drop here.
I did watch the NBA Finals a bit last year
because after my beloved New York Knicks were defeated by
said Pacers, they put up quite a fight and unfortunately
UH Halliburton aka the Haliban was not able to uh
(27:27):
to finish them off. But I was very impressed with
their team and their spirits. So Indiana Clay does still
have great basketball, just not at the college level.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Just not at IU, which was the ultimate place, Uh,
Lieutenant Governor Beckwith, you'll have to come back on and
update us. Hopefully we can add two congressional seats in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And we appreciate you updating us absolutely.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Thanks ye keep up the great work will do. Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
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Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right, we're closing up shop here on Clay and
Buck and we have oh so much to talk about
it to get to and as I've been saying, we
want you to check out the Clay and Buck podcast network,
which is fantastic, a word not to be confused with fabulous,
which some of you do not like hearing on these airways. Okay,
(29:58):
let's get some talkbacks here, Clay, I'm just gonna drink
some of my Crocket Coffee out of my over mountain
mug Crocketcffee dot Com. And let's see what we have here.
We've got Greg from South Carolina calling me out, calling
me out, play BB talking.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
About Okay, that's twice, Book said, Secretary of Defense, get
a straight, bro.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Secretary of War.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You are he's got a great voice. You are correct, Greg,
in addition to having an excellent voice, it is now
Secretary of War officially. To be fair, this is a
recent change. And for many many years I worked in
a role where we would just refer to sect death.
So sec war is not something that computes in my brain.
(30:41):
But Clay is not.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Clay is like he just sounds like a lot of
excuses that here comes out of Rocket today. You're not
You're not an excuse guy like you're here to make plays.
You're here to you know, sell out stadiums at K pop.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You can't get me. It does sound kind of like
a like a like a swooped up almost like Ricky
Martin vibe going. It does like you maybe can bring
back the Macarina. I'm kind of that's not Ricky Martin,
but I am kind of living le Vita Loca over
here the Macharna. What are you on? Like an over
sixty five cruise Macharna? Good lord? All right, let's see
(31:17):
see podcast the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, you know what year was the Macharina? Was it
way older? It's just a different band. Uh, But yeah,
I know they're rather they're roughly the same time. But
living le Vita Loca. Oh special play, Yeah, special spcial play.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She'll she'll make you wait? What is it that the
words make absolutely no sense. Maybe I'm trying to remember
dancing in the rain or something. Wasn't it like a
bullet to the brain. That's not nice.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Dancing in the rain, I think was something part of it. Yeah,
the bullets in the rain, there's bullets in the brain.
Make you go insane.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's like you got mad libs going there. It's not
not very impressive lyrics. All right, all right, here we go,
uh podcaster, Okay, Macarena was ninety three, Ricky Martin was
ninety nine. See this is where the age gap. You know,
people talk age gap sometimes in discourse. There's a bucking
Clay age gap. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Three years that redefines the uh we are different generations.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, technically Clay is gen X. I'm the Ox. He's
all like tough and salty, and I'm a millennial, so
I'm like, oh, like, I just need to have my
oat milk. Oh, you know, my avocado toast. So yeah,
whatever avocado toast is delicious. How about that gen X
people with your leather jackets, All right, let's go. We
(32:38):
got podcaster podcaster Ritchie cc play it.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Paint Clay. It's Richie.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
I'm Italian and I've done over a one hundred open
water swims.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
You need a.
Speaker 13 (32:49):
Five mil wet suit, Zoomi's on your feet, a Nia
Preme skull cap and three mile sleeves on your wet suit.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Make sure it's custom fit. And they Italian part. I'll
sit up on the front hole.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
I'll hide myself and I'll dangle a black rope to
pull you through if you start getting tired and cramped up.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't understand the Italian. I understand that he was
an Italian. I don't understand the Italian reference. There is
he saying that doesn't work hard?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I just lose Italy. I don't understand the Jesse Kelly
is the one who has all the beef with Italy.
If you follow him on on X, he's the one
that's taking shots at Italy all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's not us, so fantastic country. I had a really
good time and I went to Italy by the way, buck.
I want to get this because I don't know that
I know it is right now Halloween Eve. Okay, my
house is going to be slammed. We live in a
neighborhood where everybody goes trick or treating. It's super busy.
What is your favorite candy for Halloween? Do you have
(33:53):
up any candy taste?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like? Am I gonna?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm not interesting at all. I will say I've always
had a soft spot for sour candy, so sour patch
kids have been a thing that if I'm just gonna
eat just just sugar trash. I like sour patch kids.
But if you're telling me, what is the one candy
when I was a kid trick or treating, I was
the most, no question. Reese's Pieces, okay always, and Reese's cups.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No cups. I'm a cup Yeah, you mean cups. I'm
a cups guy. Yeah, that's the right answer. That the greatest.
If you're out there right now and you are either
a kid going Halloween trick or treating or you're a
parent stealing from your kid who was gonna go Halloween
trick or treating. Number one draft kit pick is Reese's
Peanut butter cups. Beyond a shadow of doubt, it is
(34:41):
the best Halloween food. I ranked them buck. I went
Peanut eminem second. I like peanut m and M's. I
know some people like regular Eminem's. And then I went
Twigs in third place. I'm open to the argument that
I should have gone KitKat. To me, that is the
holy trinity of Halloween candies. So my kids are smart
(35:03):
now they've gotten older, and a lot of them, the
two oldest, don't really go trigger treating anymore, but they
knew what I liked, so they would pick something other
than the candy that I liked because they knew that
I would take the Dad tax, which is a great
concept to put in place. You want kids to understand
that taxation, theft candy.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You bite one of their Twix bars in half, you're
just like taxation. That's right, get used to it. That's
how that's how it goes. I would say the one
candy that I would throw under the bus. People always
say candy cord. No, it's got nice colors to it.
It's very festive. So and candy corn in moderation is okay.
I think tutsi rolls are trash, trash, way too chewy.
(35:48):
There have been tutsi rolls that I could load in
to my uh heckler and coke and fire it out
and it would be just fine. Like tutsi rolls are trash,
I think they're mediocre.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Let me give you one that's under under respected that
should be higher ranked.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
The payday.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Payday is a great candy bar that no one respects,
no one gives any support to. You'll never find it
in the Halloween candy tray.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So is this a Southern thing? I don't even know
what a payday is. You know it, just like you
guys calling everything pop like a bunch of weirdos. Pop
is the Midwest. We're coke. Everything is. Sorry you call
everything coke. I just refer to the sodas by the
name of the soda clay. It's a crazy thing we
do in the Northeast. Everything's a coke when we come. Buck,
You've got a solo tomorrow because I'm traveling. Congrats to
(36:37):
Julie Talbot, our boss on the Hall of Fame induction.
I'm headed there.
O welcome in our number three Thursday edition. It is
Halloween Eve and Buck has just not even had to
dress up, although he does look like a Latin music
star now with his new haircut, and he now as
if he's not getting enough attention with the new haircut.
For those of you watching on YouTube, where you should
go and subscribe to the Clay and Buck YouTube channel,
(00:22):
we have got a happy.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Beaming baby boy who is right there on the screen.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And if you want to have a nice smile, how
old exactly is he now?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Six months? Baby Speed is six months old.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Six months happy, smiling, gurgling, giggling. I remember, and I
bet a lot of you do that. Around six months
is when you start to get a really fun baby
that's reacting and interacting with you on a regular basis.
So baby boy there for those of you who are
YouTube subscribers and want to be entertained and have a
(00:58):
smile put on your face. One day in advance of Halloween,
we got a bunch of different stuff to dive into.
We've been discussing Trump on it right now in the
air on his way back from his meeting with Chinese
President z and we have been discussing that impact. We
(01:19):
played at the end of the last hour Harry Inton
pointing out, as we have discussed that the overall support
for climate change insanity, even in the Democrat Party, has
begun to collapse, and that was reinforced this week as
Bill Gates suddenly decided to come out and say, hey, actually,
we're not all going to die of climate change. So
(01:40):
that religion on the left is falling apart. And this
is the data on the shutdown that also was on CNN.
So if you're out there and you're saying, okay, well,
Clay and Buck are saying that this is politically not
going well for Democrats. But what are they saying on
CNN and MSNBC, Well, they're out telling their viewers, hey,
(02:02):
this shutdown is being placed. The blame is on Democrats.
This is what Harry Inton said. Based on the polling
on CNN.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge
of both the House and the Senate, that a government
shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand, but in.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Fact it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a
look here the shift in net popularity versus pre shutdown
among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,
that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin verraa,
but clearly it hasn't dropped.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Come over this side of the screen.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress.
It's actually up five points since pre shutdown.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's rallying the base for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Look at this, the net approval rating up twelve points
versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base.
It's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at
this among independents, it's up.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Eight points as well.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So we've got a situation here where Republicans with this
shutdown are actually rallying their base, but it's also something
that's not.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hurting them with the folks in the milk.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, so that is what they heard on CNN. That's
what I wanted to play for you, and that's why
Buck and I both believe that soon after the election
next week, Democrats are going to try to find an
off ramp to end this government shutdown. Okay, let me
play a couple of cuts here that I thought were
interesting because we can talk about Kamala and Newsom a bit.
(03:21):
Buck Gavin Newsom, I think is a liar on a
level that we may not have ever seen before when
it comes to just saying the exact opposite of what
he has said before. Do you remember when he started
his podcast, the first guest I believe he had was
Charlie Kirk and he told Charlie, hey, my son is
(03:45):
a big fan of yours, and this is one reason
why I wanted to have you on the idea that
I want to talk to people of divergent backgrounds. That
was what he said. If you don't remember, you can
hear him say it yourself.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Last night, try to put my son to bed, He's like, no, Dad,
I just what time? What time is Charlie gonna be here?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What time?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school to m while
he's thirteen. He's like, no, no, this morning, wakes up and
sticks up and he's like, I'm coming. I'm like, he
literally would not leave the house.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Did you let him take off school? No?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
He did, of course not.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He's not here for a good reason.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But the point is the canceled school for like two
years on the point is the point, which is you
are making a damn dead I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Kidding, okay, and he said, my son's a fan, all
right now, just I think yesterday, Gavin Newsom, continuing the
media rounds, Oh, my son's not actually a fan of
Charlie Kirk. I never said that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Listen. Your son obviously a fan of Charlie Kirk. What
was the conversation like between you and your son after
Charlie Kirk was assassin.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So he called me.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I don't know how he got a phone, but he
called me from school that day and I really alarmed,
and all his friends were around the phone that wanted
me to shout express or understand what was going on.
He wanted to know if he was dead. He wasn't
a fan of him as much. She's so was familiar
with him.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I mean, he said, come on, it's just so petty
and slimy. Clearly, Gavin Newsom is a guy who says
one thing to one person and another thing to another,
depending on the needs of the moment. But you know,
Charlie was assassinated. He's gone, he's left behind his widows kids.
Your son obviously is a fan. Why do that? Why
(05:26):
be so petty, so lacking in honor and integrity? Well,
because you're Gavin Newsom and that's who you are.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think that's just a perfect example that we just
played of what his presidential campaign is gonna be. Like,
he's just gonna lie about things that you know he does.
He said the opposite of just a few months ago.
It's not hard to find. This is one reason I
do believe that trust in legacy media has collapsed, because
(05:55):
a lot of you, in the back of your mind,
you'd be like, I don't think they've been consistent on that.
And then on social media you have people who are
skilled and will go grab and put those side by side.
I would encourage our team if we can put those
two clips side by side and share that from Clay
and Buck. Look, if Gavin Newsom was continuing to say
(06:19):
that his son was a fan of Charlie Kirk, I
would you know, say, okay, I mean, his kids can
have different political opinions than him, But to just transparently
say the opposite of what you said in the past,
I just it's it's just evidence of what's coming. Prepare yourselves.
By the way, this just happened on CNN, sorry on ESPN.
(06:40):
It's not a lot of difference. Honestly, ESPN is often.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
M CNN might be a little more right wing than ESPN,
that actually that actually may well be true. They just
had this racist. More on Ryan Clark, who ESPN should
fire if they had a sense of just an iota
of intelligence. He's on talking about LSU, they fired their coach,
(07:04):
but he takes a shot at the governor of ls
of Louisiana over this LSU job and said it's the
second dumbest thing he said this week. The other was
that the governor of Louisiana said, Hey, we should think
about maybe putting a statue up of Charlie Kirk. Listen
to what you would have just heard if you were
watching CNN. I'm sorry that is funny, though CNN more
(07:28):
is fairer than ESPN.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If you're watching ESPN, you're just like, hey, I want
to see what's going to happen in tonight's game between
the Ravens and the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is what you might have heard.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
This is the second most ridiculous thing he said this week.
The first was standing on campus is saying he wanted
to put a statue up with somebody that doesn't represent
the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players and the
students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that worked there.
That was the first dumb thing he said this week.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
This is the second.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Dumbest, right, amongst a lot of dumb things that he says.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Okay, so just teeing off on the governor of Louisiana
on a random sports show over the governor saying, hey,
maybe we should put a statue up of Charlie Kirk, which,
by the way, the vast majority of Louisiana Natives they
do agree with Charlie Kirk. They voted for Trump by
twenty two points sixty two I think to about to
(08:23):
about thirty eight something like that, So twenty four to
twenty three, twenty two points, pretty significant win for Trump
and Louisiana. But that's the kind of conversation that you
see when you're not tuning in for it. And I
just they got to fire that guy. I mean, he
is he is epically dumb and racist. That's a bad combo.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It does seem like there's no IQ requirement for sports commentary.
I'll just say some of the things that I hear
from the sports commentariat present company, of course greatly excluded
I'm amazed that they're paid to say anything on television
about anyone, especially when they veer off into anything politically related.
But yeah, not not nice. Not nice what he said?
(09:05):
He did not like it. Not a nice thing. All right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I've also got for you, Buck your girl Kamala. I
guess she's technically my girl because I think she's gonna run.
She is an Australian now, I believe is that is
that accurate? She's doing hers open to sell a lot
of books in Melbourne. Yeah, she is Melbourne as they
pronounced it. I was told there you go, look at
me knowing how to pronounce a word.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We've got. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I want to make sure that I get this person
right because uh, she really kind of got to push here.
This is the Australian Broadcasting Corporations Sarah Ferguson. Listen to
how much she goes after Kamala here Buck for ducking
questions about Biden's decline cut.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
For you combine that misrepresentation of intention with also what
was that play in terms of massive amounts of misinteristance
for me? Now to give me I wanted a calendar
in terms of yes, the clerk I want to interrupt you,
because that is a world class pivot.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
But it is not the question that I asked you,
which is about Joe Biden's failure to recognize his own
frailties and what that did to you. The question is
about Joe Biden. Are you still reluctant to criticize the
former president in what regard?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Please?
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Well, just in terms of that question, so you went exactly.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Would you like to ask be more specific if you
don't mind, Was.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
It Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his own
frailties in that position, to put you in the position
that made it almost impossible to win that race.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
He was not frail as president of the United States,
but he had frailties. We all saw the debate.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to
be president of the United States, and I have never
doubted that he had the capacity to be president of
the United States. If you want to talk about whether
he had the ability to endure what a race for
president of the United States would require in that political
(11:07):
environment in twenty twenty four, As I've said in the book,
I had concern.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, did she pushes a gad here book.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
This is I don't know anything about Sarah Ferguson, but
I kind of like when people get called out like
this cut five.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question? And we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Head answered that question. I do not believe.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his
acuity wasn't present.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
In the book, and I also mentioned the context in
which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how I
talked about that in terms of what his travel schedule
had been, that what he had been enduring in terms
of the timing of that debate. I can talk about
at it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away
from that. So I wrote it in the book because
(12:04):
I do know it's a question people had.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Can I just say it's very clear that she's been
coached to say it's in the book, which she did
not write. Mind you, as a dodge whenever someone tries to.
It's in the book. I wrote about it in the book. Okay,
the interviewers asking you a question. I read the book,
which is a garbage book and clearly written by committee
(12:28):
of ghostwriters. Clay, she's being asked a very straightforward question,
and this is what I've said all along, for which
she has no good answer. Yeah. How is it that you,
on the one hand, say you were put in an
impossible situation to win this last election? But you think
(12:49):
Joe Biden was okay to be president because you didn't
notice any of the dementia stuff. But you understand that
there were concerns about him being in a presidential campaign.
And yet it doesn't make any sense. Now you put
these things together. You go, oh, hold on a minute.
So it's his fault, but it's not his fault. But
(13:11):
he could have been president, but he shouldn't have been president.
But Clay, this is the same thing with Greene, Jean Pierre.
They are caught in an unwinnable position because they were
all lying.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yes, and we all know and the king liar, Let
me bring it back, because I think you're gonna see
Gavin Newsom versus Kamala Harris Gavin Newsom said, Joe Biden.
This is what he also said in addition to getting
caught in wise about Charlie kirk Buck. He said, Joe
Biden is one of the most successful presidents in the
(13:41):
last century cut seventeen.
Speaker 10 (13:44):
It's a revolution that's going on in this country, and
I think you have to start using those words. He's
attacking every single institution of independent thinking, and he's succeeding
because we're still playing by the old set of rules.
And so my party needs to focus first and foremost
(14:05):
on recognizing that, and then we'll reconcile being more culturally normal,
more reform oriented, talk about service and patriotism, and will
continue to build on the legacy I would argue of
our former president who I think was one of the
most successful presidents in the last century, and that is
Joe Biden. And I will defend that to my grave.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, And it's very clear what he's doing here. He
is just grabbing the mantle of I'm your nominee. Guys,
just to be clear, I'm the Yeah, Biden was great, right,
you all voted for Biden. Every Democrat, Clay voted for Biden. Right, Yes,
So he's just saying, and a lot to make it
might be dead voted Biden too. Yeah, that's a good point.
A lot of people that aren't even American citizens might
(14:48):
have been Biden too. He is just saying, I'm here
for you. You didn't do something dumb. Biden was great. I'll
be even greater. This is a total audience in's power grab,
right or voter slash audience power grab. He's just reaching
right over and saying, hey, all you Biden people, I'm
(15:09):
the one that you need. Don't worry about all this
stuff about the dementia. We don't have to talk about that.
He was great. He was great.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Vote Gavin Newsom, I know exactly what he's doing. Oh,
I mean, it's gonna be Gavin against Kamala. I think
it's comma.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, this is why I think she's gonna have to
think long and hard about this, because you know, when
power is on the line and legacy, Gavin Newsom, he Clay,
he will be able to pummel Kamala's campaign into smithereens
on this issue. You think that random Australian journalists was tough,
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just wait till evil keleanu Reeves gets her.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I did love. You could tell Kamala was getting pissed.
She was like, who put this, this, ause this, all
these negative words? Who put her in front of me,
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We got a super quick turnaround here, but I'll lets
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also some analysis of perhaps the New York City mayor's
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Speaker 1 (18:50):
Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are
joined now by the Lieutenant Governor of Indiana. We just
met him up at Fort Wayne where we were celebrating
the one hundredth anniversary of a great legacy radio station,
Whoe Wo up there, and when we met you, mister
(19:11):
Lieutenant Governor, there was a lot of uncertainty about what
exactly Indiana was going to do when it came to redistricting,
and we said, well, we'll bring you on to talk.
Since we talked with you up in Fort Wayne, things
have evolved. What is the latest you can tell us
about the idea of redistricting in the state of Indiana
(19:32):
and what's to come.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Well, we're in
the battle right now. The governor called it. President Trump
is absolutely on point pushing states to do this. The
government called the special session just a couple of days ago,
and now we're trying to get the Republican Senate supermajority
and the Republican super majority in the House to actually
(19:55):
come back and actually do their duty. And there's been
questions on does the governor, according to the state constitution,
actually have the authority to set the time in place
he calls the special session. But now they're saying, well,
he can't set the time in place, which what they're
trying to do. Some of these little bit more I
would say moderate or not America first type senators and
(20:17):
House members are trying to say the governor can't tell
us when to come back, so they're going to probably
maybe try to kick this can down the road to
a point where we may not be able to do it.
So we're really trying to say, hey, guys, you need
to come back and do this. We need to get
Indiana's voice back and claw it back from the blue
states that have stolen it through gerrymandering and four census
(20:40):
data and nefarious actions.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
So that's what we're doing right now.
Speaker 12 (20:44):
And I was the first day wide official to you know,
jump on and say, hey, President Trump is right, He's
taught us how to fight as Republicans.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Let's do this. It's time to go.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So what is the current status in your state, Lieutenant
governor of the German and give us a sense of this,
because I think people are shocked to find out when
they actually you know, most of us think of our
We think of who has control in Congress, what the
raw numbers are, and who's our congressman, and maybe our
own state. But for people finding out, for example, what
(21:15):
the gerrymandering in say New England looks like, it's pretty
shocking when you get into it. How is it in
your state.
Speaker 12 (21:23):
Well, it's very not jerrymandered. I mean, if you look
at our districts. I mean, they're almost this square blocks
as you can get. There's no drawing these weird lines
that are going through random cities.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
And Illinois. If you look at Illinois, they're really jerrymandered.
Speaker 12 (21:37):
I mean there's one district that looks like a snake
just slithering through the whole central part of the state
from the west to the east.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And but we don't do that in Indiana.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
And we're getting screwed because we're trying to play fair,
and the states like Illinois and the New England states
in California are.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Stealing our boats.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
They're watering down our Republican voices, and so we just
finally said enough is enough, fight fire with fire. It's
time to Actually, we're going to get two more seats.
And it's nine to zero, is what the goal. We
should have nine Republicans representing us in Congress and zero Democrats.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
That's what we should be we should be fighting for.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What's the timeframe under which you think this will happen.
I think it's eight to one right now if I'm
not mistaken. So this would add one more congressional district
to the Republican lineup. Is that right or what's the
current status, and what's the time frame.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's seven and or seven to two right now. So
we have seven Republicans who Democrats, so this would add
two more nine to zero.
Speaker 12 (22:40):
And it's got to be done quick because we've got
to have our time for our Secretary State to get
the ballots out. I mean, filing is January in Indiana.
So if we don't, we can't really file for running
for anything if you don't know the districts. And so
we got probably only a window of may be a
couple more weeks here, and so that's why it's really
(23:03):
coming down to the wire. That's why I'm concerned that
the legislature is just trying to trying to install this.
They're trying to say, hey, okay, fine, you can call
special session, Governor, but you know, we're we're just not
going to come back. We'll do it five months from now.
That's when we'll come back. And it's like, no, that's
not the intention of.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
The framers of the Indiana State Constitution.
Speaker 12 (23:21):
They wouldn't have given the governor the authority to call
a special session under our four of our state Constitution and.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Not let him set the time in the place and so.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
That's where that's the battle we're at right now. I
think we'll get there, guys, I really do. But it's
just it's just unfortunate in a state like Indiana, which
is a super red state, should be the most mega
America first state and the whole Union following President Trump's lead,
and here we are just kind of saying, man, I
hope we can get this ball over the end zone
over the end zone.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So how is it to get people motivated? I think
that another thing that you deal with in a place
like Indiana, it's a great state, is you know, we
were just there, we got to hang out with you
bit and who woa land Uh. But because you're you're
so read, do you ever have an issue with people
thinking that it's all in the bag so they don't
necessarily get as mobilized on things like this redistricting as
(24:13):
they need to. And and and you know, how do
you focus in on a place where we feel solid
and republican, in a state where you feel solid and
republican that things like this come up and they do
need the attention of of the voters.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 12 (24:27):
Complacency is our is our worst enemy in Indiana because uh,
you know, people just kind of say, okay, hey, we're read,
we're good and and and you try to you try
to help them. Remember, well, what happens is sometimes these
these politicians get really comfortable and they realize, I mean,
I've I've heard some senators say I'm not worried because
i can be a no, and i can be a
(24:48):
strong no, and I'm not worried about it because I'm
never going to have a general opponent. We have some
some senators and reps that don't even get general opponents
in some cases, and and some of these districts from Democrats.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
That's how the Democrat party is in Indiana.
Speaker 12 (25:04):
But we get really lazy as a Republican party, and
we start we start, you know, seeing that play out
in real time. And then you also get the typical
Democrat who knows they can't win as a Democrat in Indiana,
so they'll run as a Republican and they they basically
imfiltrate the party and then they try to water down
the party and move the party back further to the left.
(25:25):
And and so that's that those are the problems that
we wrestle with. And so we're you know the governor myself.
I mean, I think some real strong conservatives saying listen,
we will work actively to primary people if we need to.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We don't. We hope we don't have to.
Speaker 12 (25:38):
But gosh, if we can't save our republic from this
Marxist leftist takeover that the Democrat Party has become, then
what are you doing, Like, get out of the way
and let real patriots get in there and fight.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
We need fighters now more than ever.
Speaker 13 (25:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Speaking of fighters, Indiana Hoosiers are I think one of
the best teams, certainly in college football and right now
the best record in the NFL as the Indianapolis Colts.
When did Indiana become a football state? And we're all asking,
do you guys still or have you just got to switch?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I no, I think we're still good at basketball. But
you know, I'm just shocked.
Speaker 13 (26:15):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It's awesome.
Speaker 12 (26:17):
Listen, we got I you Hoosiers number two, We got
the Colts, the best team in the NFL. You know
we had the Pacers made it to the finals, the
Fever almost made it to the finals. I mean, listen, hey, listen,
we could potentially think about this.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
We could potentially.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
See I you and Notre Dame in the National Championship
this year. How cool would that be in college football
if that, if that actually happened. So, I mean, Indiana
has become a sports mecca of the.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
World right now. And then you got you know, Ims
the Speedway.
Speaker 12 (26:48):
I mean, we are becoming the place that the world
wants to come to you and it's awesome and I'm
so proud of the state.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Now, if you guys just could be good at basketball
at the Indiana Hoosiers. Again, I know Purdue's doing well,
but are you well.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
You know, we need Gene Hackman to come back and
help us.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So that was one of the great all time movies. Hey,
we appreciate I did watch the excuse me for a
second here, I did a sports knowledge to drop here.
I did watch the NBA Finals a bit last year
because after my beloved New York Knicks were defeated by
said Pacers, they put up quite a fight and unfortunately
UH Halliburton aka the Haliban was not able to uh
(27:27):
to finish them off. But I was very impressed with
their team and their spirits. So Indiana Clay does still
have great basketball, just not at the college level.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Just not at IU, which was the ultimate place, Uh,
Lieutenant Governor Beckwith, you'll have to come back on and
update us. Hopefully we can add two congressional seats in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And we appreciate you updating us absolutely.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Thanks ye keep up the great work will do. Uh.
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Speaker 2 (29:36):
All right, we're closing up shop here on Clay and
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let's get some talkbacks here, Clay, I'm just gonna drink
some of my Crocket Coffee out of my over mountain
mug Crocketcffee dot Com. And let's see what we have here.
We've got Greg from South Carolina calling me out, calling
me out, play BB talking.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
About Okay, that's twice, Book said, Secretary of Defense, get
a straight, bro.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Secretary of War.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You are he's got a great voice. You are correct, Greg,
in addition to having an excellent voice, it is now
Secretary of War officially. To be fair, this is a
recent change. And for many many years I worked in
a role where we would just refer to sect death.
So sec war is not something that computes in my brain.
(30:41):
But Clay is not.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Clay is like he just sounds like a lot of
excuses that here comes out of Rocket today. You're not
You're not an excuse guy like you're here to make plays.
You're here to you know, sell out stadiums at K pop.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
You can't get me. It does sound kind of like
a like a like a swooped up almost like Ricky
Martin vibe going. It does like you maybe can bring
back the Macarina. I'm kind of that's not Ricky Martin,
but I am kind of living le Vita Loca over
here the Macharna. What are you on? Like an over
sixty five cruise Macharna? Good lord? All right, let's see
(31:17):
see podcast the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Well, you know what year was the Macharina? Was it
way older? It's just a different band. Uh, But yeah,
I know they're rather they're roughly the same time. But
living le Vita Loca. Oh special play, Yeah, special spcial play.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
She'll she'll make you wait? What is it that the
words make absolutely no sense. Maybe I'm trying to remember
dancing in the rain or something. Wasn't it like a
bullet to the brain. That's not nice.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Dancing in the rain, I think was something part of it. Yeah,
the bullets in the rain, there's bullets in the brain.
Make you go insane.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It's like you got mad libs going there. It's not
not very impressive lyrics. All right, all right, here we go,
uh podcaster, Okay, Macarena was ninety three, Ricky Martin was
ninety nine. See this is where the age gap. You know,
people talk age gap sometimes in discourse. There's a bucking
Clay age gap. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Three years that redefines the uh we are different generations.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, technically Clay is gen X. I'm the Ox. He's
all like tough and salty, and I'm a millennial, so
I'm like, oh, like, I just need to have my
oat milk. Oh, you know, my avocado toast. So yeah,
whatever avocado toast is delicious. How about that gen X
people with your leather jackets, All right, let's go. We
(32:38):
got podcaster podcaster Ritchie cc play it.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Paint Clay. It's Richie.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
I'm Italian and I've done over a one hundred open
water swims.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
You need a.
Speaker 13 (32:49):
Five mil wet suit, Zoomi's on your feet, a Nia
Preme skull cap and three mile sleeves on your wet suit.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Make sure it's custom fit. And they Italian part. I'll
sit up on the front hole.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
I'll hide myself and I'll dangle a black rope to
pull you through if you start getting tired and cramped up.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't understand the Italian. I understand that he was
an Italian. I don't understand the Italian reference. There is
he saying that doesn't work hard?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I just lose Italy. I don't understand the Jesse Kelly
is the one who has all the beef with Italy.
If you follow him on on X, he's the one
that's taking shots at Italy all the time.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's not us, so fantastic country. I had a really
good time and I went to Italy by the way, buck.
I want to get this because I don't know that
I know it is right now Halloween Eve. Okay, my
house is going to be slammed. We live in a
neighborhood where everybody goes trick or treating. It's super busy.
What is your favorite candy for Halloween? Do you have
(33:53):
up any candy taste?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like? Am I gonna?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm not interesting at all. I will say I've always
had a soft spot for sour candy, so sour patch
kids have been a thing that if I'm just gonna
eat just just sugar trash. I like sour patch kids.
But if you're telling me, what is the one candy
when I was a kid trick or treating, I was
the most, no question. Reese's Pieces, okay always, and Reese's cups.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No cups. I'm a cup Yeah, you mean cups. I'm
a cups guy. Yeah, that's the right answer. That the greatest.
If you're out there right now and you are either
a kid going Halloween trick or treating or you're a
parent stealing from your kid who was gonna go Halloween
trick or treating. Number one draft kit pick is Reese's
Peanut butter cups. Beyond a shadow of doubt, it is
(34:41):
the best Halloween food. I ranked them buck. I went
Peanut eminem second. I like peanut m and M's. I
know some people like regular Eminem's. And then I went
Twigs in third place. I'm open to the argument that
I should have gone KitKat. To me, that is the
holy trinity of Halloween candies. So my kids are smart
(35:03):
now they've gotten older, and a lot of them, the
two oldest, don't really go trigger treating anymore, but they
knew what I liked, so they would pick something other
than the candy that I liked because they knew that
I would take the Dad tax, which is a great
concept to put in place. You want kids to understand
that taxation, theft candy.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You bite one of their Twix bars in half, you're
just like taxation. That's right, get used to it. That's
how that's how it goes. I would say the one
candy that I would throw under the bus. People always
say candy cord. No, it's got nice colors to it.
It's very festive. So and candy corn in moderation is okay.
I think tutsi rolls are trash, trash, way too chewy.
(35:48):
There have been tutsi rolls that I could load in
to my uh heckler and coke and fire it out
and it would be just fine. Like tutsi rolls are trash,
I think they're mediocre.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Let me give you one that's under under respected that
should be higher ranked.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
The payday.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Payday is a great candy bar that no one respects,
no one gives any support to. You'll never find it
in the Halloween candy tray.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
So is this a Southern thing? I don't even know
what a payday is. You know it, just like you
guys calling everything pop like a bunch of weirdos. Pop
is the Midwest. We're coke. Everything is. Sorry you call
everything coke. I just refer to the sodas by the
name of the soda clay. It's a crazy thing we
do in the Northeast. Everything's a coke when we come. Buck,
You've got a solo tomorrow because I'm traveling. Congrats to
(36:37):
Julie Talbot, our boss on the Hall of Fame induction.
I'm headed there.
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