August 8, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful blend of cultural commentary, political analysis, and listener engagement, emphasizing the ongoing shift in American values and media narratives. This hour centers on the cultural backlash against woke ideology, with Clay Travis spotlighting the viral success of Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad, the New York Times’ attempt to downplay the controversy, and the broader collapse of left-wing cultural dominance in entertainment and media.
Clay and guest Ian Miller dissect the decline of superhero movies, attributing failures like Black Widow, Eternals, and Ant-Man 3 to Marvel’s post-Endgame political messaging and audience fatigue. They critique James Gunn’s framing of the new Superman film as an immigration story, arguing that politicizing entertainment alienates viewers and contributes to box office losses.
The hour also explores the COVID-19 legacy, particularly its devastating impact on youth. Clay introduces the documentary Generation CO, which chronicles the emotional and developmental toll of school lockdowns. He and Ian argue that young men’s political realignment, especially toward President Trump, stems from anger over lost formative years and government overreach. The segment calls out Anthony Fauci’s unaccountable leadership and the broader refusal to acknowledge the harm inflicted on a generation.
Listeners from across the country weigh in, sharing personal stories about BLM-era social pressure, Grant Napear’s firing and comeback, and even engaging in humorous mountain rivalry banter between Colorado and the Smoky Mountains. The show also touches on Major League Baseball’s quiet reversal of its stance on Georgia’s voting laws by hosting the All-Star Game in Atlanta, a move seen as a cultural win for conservatives. The hour closes with speculation on a potential 2028 showdown between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis, contrasting their COVID-era governance and disaster response.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Glay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are fourteen
hours down on the program. Fifteenth hour of the week
underway right now. Let me go ahead and give you
some ideas of how to spend your weekend. Go subscribe
to the Clay and Buck YouTube channel. I gave you
a couple of good book reviews that are up there.
(00:21):
Buck is going to be posting YouTube original videos as well.
Soon we hope to have all three hours of the
program up and running there. You can also go subscribe
to the podcast everywhere basically there is on social media
you can find both Buck and myself. We are going
(00:43):
to be back together on Monday. Buck is in the Highlands.
In the mountains, we will have some more mountain reaction
to that. I appreciate our geologists down in Louisiana who
called pointing out that the Great Smoky Mountains used to
be twenty thousand feet above sea level. Now they are
around six or seven thou They used to dwarf all
the mountains in Colorado, much to the chagrin of our
(01:06):
angry Colorado mountain caller earlier. Lots of different things, and
if you have no idea what I'm talking about, you
should have listened to the first couple of hours. Many
people still reacting to Grant Napier as he was fired
after twenty six years of radio work, sports talk radio work,
thirty two years of being the TV voice of the
Sacramento Kings, but for saying all lives matter, every single
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one five years ago. He has now been rehired. We
talked to him in the second hour that conversation. I
would encourage you to go check out. It'll be posted
at YouTube, it'll be posted on the podcast. And we've
been talking about a variety of different stories all across
the political arena, several different stories. As we always tell you,
lots of court cases, rulings, decisions that are coming down.
(01:53):
We have covered this case quite a lot. We had
the Governor of Texas on this week. Their Democrats have
refused to show up. Therefore there is no quorum able
to be reached in the Texas legislature and now those
Texas Democrats are subject to arrest and charges. So that
(02:13):
is going on as we speak right now. We will
see what happens when it comes to the Texas Democrats
being pursued both by Texas legal officials as well as
the Governor told us a referral to the FBI in
Cash Bettel's organization to potentially chase down all of those individuals.
(02:35):
So many different stories that are out there, but I
wanted to build a little bit on the Grant Napier story,
and I wanted to attempt to tie together several different
elements of culture and suggest that they are all leading
us in one positive direction. So Sidney Sweeney has been
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a topic of conversation a great deal since the American
Eagle ad that she was in went viral, and we've
talked about it quite a lot on this program. I
am quoted in Today's New York Times in a story
where they attempt to claim that no one on the
left actually was bothered by the Sydney Sweeney ad and
(03:19):
in reality, this was just a made up story. That's
what the New York Times says, and I'm quoted in
that article. I mentioned that I talked with them, But
I actually think this is an interesting angle that the
New York Times took, and I think that because it
requires them to acknowledge that they're wrong. But they didn't
(03:40):
acknowledge that they were wrong. They said, oh, there isn't
anybody on the left that is actually bothered by the
Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad this was all just manufactured outrage.
There is no basis for this story to have ever existed. Well,
this is interesting, isn't it. They're not trying to argue anymore. Oh,
(04:06):
those crazy left winging voices are representative of the Democrat Party.
They're trying to now argue, you didn't see and you
didn't hear all of the things that you thought you
saw and that you thought you heard. The reality is
this is just a manufactured story. Why would they do that?
(04:30):
Why would they do an entire article. I talked to
the writers in the New York Times for probably twenty minutes.
Why would they do an entire article about a story
that they claim is not really a story? Because they
are getting smoked in the world of pop culture right now,
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and I think this is indicative of a massive shift
that we are seeing not only take place in the
worlds of politics, but in the world's of culture, which
I would argue are maybe even more influential. Sidney Sweeney
moves to Florida registers as a Republican decides, Hey, I'm
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going to be in a genes ad for a company
like American Eagle, and we're going to refer to me
as having good genes j E A n S and
genes g E n E S. And rather than say, okay,
that's fine, blonde hair, blue eyed girl selling apparel. Thirty
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percent of America is white girls. It's not crazy that
there would be an attractive white woman in an genes ad.
Left loses their mind. They're threatened culturally by a girl
who's in her twenties, is a registered Republican and is
willing to say, Hey, I'm pretty and I'm going to
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sell ads, and I'm going to sell products based on
my attractiveness, which, by the way, is basically the entire
basis of the influencer economy. Everybody likes to pick on
all the girls on Instagram who are walking around in
their spandex outfits and they're holding up there. You know,
(06:15):
I don't know. I'm not healthy enough to even know
what they sell. Producer Ali, you can let me know
they eat like the yogurts. It's gonna be a good clip.
I'm not even healthy enough to know what healthy attractive
young women eat. I think they eat the yogurt I
think they eat some smoothies. A lot of them don't
eat anyway. They're all really good looking and they walk
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around and they're like, basically, if you want to be
as good looking as me, then you should buy this product. Ali,
you can tell me what attractive influencers sell. To me.
It seems to be basically yoga pants and smoothies, and
everybody buys them, and everybody makes fun of the influencers.
But I actually think you should make fun of the
people who respond to the influencers. The influence smart Justin
(07:01):
Bieber's wife, is it Haley Hailey Bieber sold a three
year old makeup company for a billion dollars just in
the last couple of months. I don't know who Hailey
Bieber is. I don't know how makeup works. I don't
know how anything makeup works. I had a this is
actually pretty funny. I had a like something on the
(07:24):
corner of my eye that was messed up, and I
was going to be doing television. I was like, I
think people might see this, and my wife and and
all of her team they were like, every woman can
talk about makeup. I've never heard something talked about where
I had no clue They might as well have been
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speaking Mandarin Chinese. I had no earthly idea what they
were talking about, foundation, base, color, palette, all these I
have no idea. I have no idea how any of
this stuff works. But Hailey Bieber sells a billion dollar
makeup company, and everybody wants to make fun of Kim
Kardashian and Haley Bieber and all these influencers on down
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the float chart. If you want to make fun of somebody,
make fun of the people that are buying their products.
Selling something that people buy is basically the foundation of capitalism.
I don't see anything wrong with what they're doing. But
the American eagle had a choice. American eagle had a choice.
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When everybody decided, they ran the Good Morning America ad
and they said, this is Nazism, this is eugenics, this
is Hitlarian. By the way, funny a lot of young
men on Twitter, they started referring, you know what, they
were calling Sidney Sweeney in the wake of the Left,
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saying that she was Hitler like and this was Nazi
and eugenics. They started calling her Adolph Titler. And I
gotta be honest with you. The humor of young men
on social media is starting to save the culture of
the country because I'll tell you, every fourteen and fifteen
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year old boy in America decides what their sense of
humor is, and every man for the rest of his
life basically has the same sense of humor as a
fourteen and fifteen year old boy. Every grandpa who's seventy
five right now, he just laughed at Adolf Titler. I
guarantee you he did. And if he didn't, it's because
he's trying to pretend to the woman in the car
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with him that he's actually more mature than he actually is.
They're calling her ADOLFH. Titler in response. That is genius.
It's really funny. But American Eagle had a decision. Do
they stand behind Adolph Tittler aka Sidney Sweeney or or
do they do what so many media companies and so
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many advertising companies and so many different media outlets have
done for so long. Do they issue that apology and
kind of step back. Last night, American Eagle took over
the Sphere, which is the really wildly revolutionary concert venue
(10:12):
that exists out in Las Vegas. If you travel it
looks like a big eye you've probably seen it on
social media all night long. They ran American Eagle Sidney Sweeney,
ads of her in her genes. They have said, We're
not going to allow these left wing lunatic losers to
(10:34):
dictate the choices that we are making. They didn't do
to Sidney Sweeney what was done to Grant Napier five
years ago. When somebody gets a little bit controversial, they
cancel them, They put them on the sidelines, they run
and hide from them. Simultaneous with that, Sidney Sweeney is
on the big sphere. I'm in Atlanta right now, thank
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you to our affiliate down here extra one zero six
point three. I am basically right next door to the
Atlanta Braves, where, by the way, Major League Baseball didn't
officially apologize, but they showed right back up here with
the All Star Game, which was a direct response in
many ways to the lies told by the Biden administration
(11:18):
about the voting rights bill in Georgia. They brought the
All Star Game here. There wasn't a hint of complaint
the left wingers like Stacy Abrams and Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris, who had all argued this is Jim Crow
This is Jim Eagle. This is modern day Confederacy in
the state of Georgia where I am right now. They
shot it all down. That connects also to what I
(11:43):
was seeing last night watched The Braves. While I'm watching
the Braves, awful season for the Braves, by the way,
great organization. I'm scrolling through and I start to see
going viral as the kids are returning to college campuses,
tens of millions of views for these sec sorority girls
dressed up in patriotic colors celebrating the United States as
(12:10):
a way to recruit freshman girls to join their sorority.
And I just thought, Sidney Sweeney, Atlanta Braves All Star Game,
and now SEAC Sororities America is back. Being proud to
be an American is back. Culturally, we are winning. The
(12:35):
New York Times is writing articles claiming that nobody's actually
offended by Sidney Sweeney because they know they're on the
wrong side of these issues, and so they claim the
issue doesn't exist anymore. I'm starting to hear from people
out there who were totally silent when I was speaking
out against men and women's sports that are now saying
(12:58):
I don't know why you're still talking about this. Well,
I'm still talking about it because it's still happening. And
the reason you don't want to talk about it anymore
is because you're wrong. You lost. We are winning across
the cultural landscape, politics, business, sports, movies, all of it
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is moving in the direction of sanity and repudiating everything
by and large that has happened over the last seven
or eight years. And I understand how some of you
may be skeptical, some of you may not be seeing
it or feeling it. But even even the New York
Times is pretending this cultural battle isn't even happening, because
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otherwise they would have to acknowledge that they are getting
their ass kicked, and that people are turning the back,
turning their back on the whole woke universe, and not
only turning their back on it, working hard to completely
reverse it is downstream from culture. That's why I've been
arguing now is the time to add on more steam
(14:09):
to truly make a difference. Bottom of the hour. I
think this is even starting to impact the biggest movies
that are out there. Superman didn't have the success that
it would have in my opinion, if the moron director
of Superman had not come out and said it's about
immigration and it's a political movie. I really think we
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are starting to see a return to sanity and consequences
for those who interject politics into every fabric of American life.
And that, my friends, is something to be very very
happy about as we're rolling into this weekend. Now, look,
a lot of you out there are heads of households.
You're the mom or the dad, or the grandma or
(14:53):
the grandpa that's making a lot of decisions out there
for your family. You might be even already thinking about Thanksgiving,
think about Christmas, and maybe you're thinking about, hey, how
do I get everybody to come to Christmas? Because we
got different family members that are mad at each other.
If you're the peacemaker in your family, if you're the
individuals that try to bring everybody together, have you thought
(15:15):
about what would happen if you weren't there for Thanksgiving,
if you weren't there for Christmas? Have you thought about
the fights that might ensue if you weren't there to
help stop them from happening. I bet every mom out
there listening has I bet every dad out there listening
has I bet every grandma and grandpa out there listening
has well, have you thought about the fights that might
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(15:39):
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Speaker 3 (17:25):
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Speaker 1 (17:28):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
Just wanted to thank you for having Grant and Apier on.
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We're rolling through the Friday edition of the program. I
thought this was a fun topic. I was reading this
morning getting ready for all the prep. By the way, Buck,
we'll be back with me Monday. He's in the Highlands
through the weekend with his family, so he's texted me
(19:17):
that he's met a lot of you, and so thanks
for everybody who's being super kind to him. And thanks,
by the way to Extra one zero six point three
are Atlanta, Georgia area affiliate. I'm going to watch the
Atlanta Braves with my family for the weekend. It has
not been a great season. I know that Ian Miller
is a big Dodgers fan. It has been a good
Dodger season. Maybe he wants to talk trash about that.
(19:38):
But I was reading your piece this morning as I
was getting ready. Ian and Ian Wrights at OutKick owned
by Fox News Now, but that I founded and Ian
my kids love, and my family has long loved all
the superhero movies. I've got three boys. I've seen every
superhero movie in the theaters. It feels like to me,
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Avengers End Game happened, and it was the two part finale,
and frankly, it was pretty fantastic. I loved it. It
was really well done, and ever since then people have
basically decided superhero movies were finished with them. Is that
a bad take? Fair take? How would you analyze this
(20:21):
and what is American response to these movies in your mind?
Telling us about the larger culture?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, first of all, always happy to talk trash about
the Dodgers being the braves whenever necessary. But as far
as the superhero movies go, I think you're exactly right.
After Avengers Endgame, there is this dramatic shift, and I
think you can kind of point it to Marvel completely
changing their philosophy of what characters they wanted to present,
how they wanted to present them. So you can go
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back and look at the list of movies they've released
since twenty twenty, it's things like Black Widow, Shun Chi Eternals,
you know, Ant Man three, the Marvels, things like that,
and they flopped. I mean, it's been one disaster after another.
There's been a couple of successes mixed in there, but
for the large part, it's been really these movies that
have just not done very well. And I think they've
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kind of had these checkboxes of targets they wanted to
hit people.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
They wanted to target these.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Movies too, and it hasn't panned out, And I think
that there is a fatigue now and people have really
kind of tuned them out in the American culture, and
then people are sick and tired of going to the
movies not knowing that they're going to get some kind
of unexpected political lecture and was supposed to be a summer,
fun popcorn movie.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have you seen the Newest Superman?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I haven't. Actually no, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I haven't either. My wife and youngest son went and
watched it and they said that it was not particularly woke.
But James Gunn, the director, said that the movie was
political before he came out. He said it was an
immigration story, so he said, of course it's political, and
I think it stripped a lot of what otherwise would
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have been maybe positivity for the movie away. And you
dove into the math because a lot of people don't
dive into the math. You're a smart guy. The reason
I first became aware of you was you were porting
out the math of you Live in LA and how
COVID was absolutely handled in just an indefensible management manner
by California and we may circle back on that in
(22:19):
a sec. But what is the math on Superman. It's
headed for losing money, even though most people aren't really
breaking it down.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, and I think that's you hit it me on
the head again with guns comments. It was just so
unnecessary and bizarre. And I think even though the movie
wasn't particularly political, it made it political. And you know,
it hasn't done that poorly domestically. But what we've seen
is that, you know, maybe if it costs itself, maybe
there were two million people that we're going to go
see or on the fence and didn't because of what
(22:50):
Gun said. Well, that's two million people that didn't buy
twenty dollars movie tickets and so on and so forth,
and it adds up over time. And right now where
it's tracking is it's probably going to lose somewhere around
you know, seventy to eighty one hundred million dollars globally,
because you know, the production budget is so high, the
advertising budget is so high. It had to make around
seven hundred million dollars globally to break even. It's not
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going to do that, and when you adjust for inflation,
it's done significantly worse than Man of Steel, which was
kind of the last big Superman movie that came out,
which is twenty thirteen. So it's just it's an unnecessary
comment that I think turned people off to seeing it
that were otherwise had no reason not to go see it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I talked earlier Ian about the culture of sports. We
talked to Grant Apier, who was out in California where
you live, lost his job for simply saying, all lives matter,
every single one. Certainly, there's been a great deal of
discussion about Sidney Sweeney. I don't know if you've happened
to see all of the sec sorority recruitment videos that
(23:50):
are going wildly viral now, including very patriotic ones, even
living in California. Do you sense that we have seen
a profound cultural shift or are you skeptical?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
No, I definitely do think there is There has been
a cultural shift, and it's especially among I think younger
generations that you had for so many years, this kind
of political movement that you woke for lack of a
better word, that wanted to like stamp out fun and
just being able to enjoy yourself without apologizing for it.
And I think the younger generations have finally tuned that out.
I think there was about a ten to fifteen year
window where people were kind of listening to that and
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how people are tired of it and thank God for it,
and I think that's part of the reason why these
movies have failed. And once you kind of lose the
benefit of the doubt of the consumer, it's very hard to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Get it back. And that cultural shift is part of it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
People have changed how they view movies, how they view entertainment,
what they want to get out of entertainment, and you know,
when you're not providing that, you're not going to do well.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And that's what we've.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Seen twenty twenty eight. It's early. We may still end
up with Gavin Newsome against Governor Ron DeSantis. It does
feel to me like that is the most evid opposite
political perspectives from a governatorial perspective right now. Right what
Florida did during COVID, the way that they have run
(25:09):
their state, what California did during COVID, the way that
Gavin Newsom has run his state. As someone living in California,
are more people acknowledging that Gavin Newsom got it wrong?
When you're moving around in social circles. Or do you
think people in California now, rather than admit they got
things wrong, are just pretending COVID never happened and moving on.
(25:31):
What is the vibe there?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag
where there are some people that are just pretending it
never happened, and there are, but there are a number
of people that kind of were on the political left
that have acknowledged, you know, we got this wrong. I
think Newsom's approval ratings have been underwater even in California
and one in the most hardcore blue states because he's
done such a bad job, and that contrast could not
be more starked with COVID. But it's also with everything.
(25:55):
Like if there's a natural disaster in Florida, Ron DeSantis
has got everything prepared ahead of time, the response is immaculate,
it's immediate, and things are fixed quickly and people are
back up and running within a matter of days. In California,
we have just this spectacular incompetence where everything is slow,
nothing gets done quickly, the responses are never planned ahead
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of time. Obviously, we had the disastrous fires in La
in January and the recovery has been a train wreck,
and that exemplifies what has happened with Newsom versus in
California and the failure in Blue states compared to what
we've seen in Florida.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Jennifer Say is a friend of mine. She's founded a
clothing company xx x Y Athletics. Some of you may
have seen it. She used to work at Levi's, which
was based in San Francisco. And since I was just
asking you about COVID, I know you were fired up
about this. Ian As a dad, I spoke out immensely
about the importance of schools being reopened. I continue to
(26:50):
meet so many kids out there that had their schools
shut down. I met a kid up at the University
of Chicago recently went to school in California. He said, yeah,
we left it March. I was a junior in high
school and I never came back again, and so he
only saw his classmates again at graduation. You think about
(27:10):
what happens when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Jennifer
has made a documentary and I would encourage you guys
to watch this, but Ian, I want to play it
for you, and then I want to get your reaction
to whether we have had what should have been a
full sort of reconciliation in some way for the disaster
of shutting down schools. But this book focuses on This
(27:33):
documentary focuses on kids. It has recently been completed. Full disclosure.
I donated money to help make it. But I think
it is really really good. Here is cut five. This
is a new film documenting the impact of COVID lockdowns
on kids. Just listen to this audio.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Western democracy has been replaced with the higher security state oas.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues
where groups of people congregate should be closed.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I expected it to only be for like two weeks
and then we get back to school.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
At the time, it felt great, and then surely enough
it started to be very worrying.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I've had a plan to myself, and I thought about
it every day.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You cannot treat kids like prisoners and expect them to
be okay.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The memories that we have lost, the experiences that we
have lost, the skills that we have lost, and now
we have to reget that and go out into the world.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
It has to be an honest discussion about what went on.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
This is something that my generation will not forget. This
is also something that my generation will not forgive.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really powerful and again the film it's called Generation COVID.
When I travel around and I spend a lot of
time on college campuses, I don't think we are talking
enough about the anger or of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty year old kids who had years of their life
taken away for a virus that bore them no threat
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at all. They're profoundly angry. I think it's one reason
young men in particular have moved so aggressively towards Trump.
Do you sense that, Ian, Because I really do, and
I don't think it's talked about hardly at all.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think that it's absolutely one of the biggest explanations
for how the culture has shifted. How you know young
men have shifted, You know they had their their youth
kind of taken away from them. Listening to that Anthony
Fauci quote there is that's the perfect example where you
had this one man who was making kind of dictatorial
statements about what should happen, never really presenting any evidence
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for it, and then never correcting himself or apologizing when
he found out he was wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And because you know, you had these these retrictions going for.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Years and years and years, and children were incredibly harmed
by this, and there was never any discussion of it.
There's never been any discussion of it. It's that, like
we were saying about California, people just want to forget
that it happened. But the people that live through it
have not forgotten, and they're not going to forget. And
I think it's going to change their lives forever with
how they view politics or they view.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Government, how they view these restrictions.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And I think we have not really fully reckoned with
it because we don't want to. We don't want to
admit what we did to that generation and how it's
going to impact them.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
For the rest of their lives.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Ian.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Appreciate the work. Tell people how they can find you
out there. But good stuff on diving into the math
behind some of these movies and continuing to fight for
basic sanity when it comes to data.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Thanks for having me, Clay right and now kick every
day and on Twitter just Ian MFC, thanks a lot
for having me.
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Let's go in order here. Actually, let's start with HH.
Every topic under the sun that we have been discussing
so far today. If you don't understand, you need to
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go listen to the podcast, go subscribe on YouTube. You
can watch all of it. HH. Curtis from Sacramento now
lives in Mount Juliet Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Great show. Play buck. Hey, look, I live in Mount
Juliet now, but I was in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I listened to Grant Napier.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I didn't agree with him on one hundred percent of
the things about the Kings, but I want to tell
you something, Jerry Reynolds and Grant Napier was.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
An extremely funny NBA radio broadcast to listen to.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So have a good one.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
He's a good guy. He got.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Grant was thank you. Yeah, Grant was fired. If you
missed that interview, All lives matter, every single one. After
twenty six years on radio, thirty two years on TV,
he was fired. He lost his job really for saying
all lives matter, every single one. He now has got
a new sports talk radio show. I love that that
story is being rectified in some way. Rachel and Raleigh,
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North Carolina.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
JJ, Hey, Colorado mountain guy. This is Rachel from North Carolina,
and yes, our mountains are actual mountains. In fact, there's
some of the oldest mountain ranges on the planet. So
give us a little bit of cred there. That may
not be as tall because they've been worn down, but
they are actual mountains and they are stunning. So stood back, dude.
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And also they're not run by communists, at least not yet.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Fingers crossed a lot of I would not have expected
mountain trash talk. When I sat down to do the
show today. We had a Colorado caller who went after
me for saying Buck was in the mountains, saying that
they're smoky mountains are not mountains, and the mountains on
the East coast KK Todd was firing away from the
Colorado KK. Let's listen Colorado.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I love the Tennessee Smoky Mountains, but I think Cleanland's
dome is like six thousand feet. We have fifty three
fourteen ers in Colorado. You know, fourteen thousand feet.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I mean, just mountain trash talk. Would you have you
ever heard it before? Kenny in Saint louis one oh
four point nine in between the Smoky Mountains and Colorado,
and he's weighing in, what's he got?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Love you?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yoh Lingman's film is like six thousand something feet.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
The guy in Colorado is talking about fourteen thousand plus feet.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I think he's got a little.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Room to talk. Don't here we go by the way,
Let's see Jana from Milwaukee says, well, she's got a question.
Let's listen. Pq QQ from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Hey guys, Jennefer Milwaukee, big fan of the show.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Love seeing you guys pop up on various Fox News shows,
and my question is when are you going to pop
up on my favorite Fox News show, Gutfeld.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I have been on Gutfeld. I haven't been on in
a while because you have to be present in New
York City, and I would imagine the same is true
for Buck. We just haven't been up in New York
that much. I'm scheduled to be up in New York
for some events in September, so maybe I'll be on Gutfeld.
Then he does a great job, By the way, Gutfeld
credit to Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon had Gutfeld on his
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late night talk show on NBC. The Prime Minister of Armenia,
by the way, is about to arrive at the White
House as we are speaking. Finally, Renee from Florida, she's
upset because I'm not using grammar correctly.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Oh, I just wanted to give you a little piece
of advice. Because you can count them, it's fewer. If
you can't, it's less. So for example, we have fewer
pennies but less money.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Just let you know there's a zero percent chance that
I'm going to get that correct. You know, I try
to be pretty good on grammar. I'm probably not gonna
get fewer and less correct. I'm sorry to all the
grammarians out there in this universe. I will continue to
mangle the English language to the best of my ability.
I love all of you. Have fabulous weekends. I'm gonna
go watch the Atlanta Braves play the Marlins with my family.
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It's gonna be a fun weekend. I hope you all
have one as well. We'll be back Buck and Me
on Monday. Let's see it then,
Welcome in Glay Travis Buck Sexton show. We are fourteen
hours down on the program. Fifteenth hour of the week
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you can find both Buck and myself. We are going
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to be back together on Monday. Buck is in the Highlands.
In the mountains, we will have some more mountain reaction
to that. I appreciate our geologists down in Louisiana who
called pointing out that the Great Smoky Mountains used to
be twenty thousand feet above sea level. Now they are
around six or seven thou They used to dwarf all
the mountains in Colorado, much to the chagrin of our
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angry Colorado mountain caller earlier. Lots of different things, and
if you have no idea what I'm talking about, you
should have listened to the first couple of hours. Many
people still reacting to Grant Napier as he was fired
after twenty six years of radio work, sports talk radio work,
thirty two years of being the TV voice of the
Sacramento Kings, but for saying all lives matter, every single
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one five years ago. He has now been rehired. We
talked to him in the second hour that conversation. I
would encourage you to go check out. It'll be posted
at YouTube, it'll be posted on the podcast. And we've
been talking about a variety of different stories all across
the political arena, several different stories. As we always tell you,
lots of court cases, rulings, decisions that are coming down.
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We have covered this case quite a lot. We had
the Governor of Texas on this week. Their Democrats have
refused to show up. Therefore there is no quorum able
to be reached in the Texas legislature and now those
Texas Democrats are subject to arrest and charges. So that
(02:13):
is going on as we speak right now. We will
see what happens when it comes to the Texas Democrats
being pursued both by Texas legal officials as well as
the Governor told us a referral to the FBI in
Cash Bettel's organization to potentially chase down all of those individuals.
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So many different stories that are out there, but I
wanted to build a little bit on the Grant Napier story,
and I wanted to attempt to tie together several different
elements of culture and suggest that they are all leading
us in one positive direction. So Sidney Sweeney has been
(02:56):
a topic of conversation a great deal since the American
Eagle ad that she was in went viral, and we've
talked about it quite a lot on this program. I
am quoted in Today's New York Times in a story
where they attempt to claim that no one on the
left actually was bothered by the Sydney Sweeney ad and
(03:19):
in reality, this was just a made up story. That's
what the New York Times says, and I'm quoted in
that article. I mentioned that I talked with them, But
I actually think this is an interesting angle that the
New York Times took, and I think that because it
requires them to acknowledge that they're wrong. But they didn't
(03:40):
acknowledge that they were wrong. They said, oh, there isn't
anybody on the left that is actually bothered by the
Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ad this was all just manufactured outrage.
There is no basis for this story to have ever existed. Well,
this is interesting, isn't it. They're not trying to argue anymore. Oh,
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those crazy left winging voices are representative of the Democrat Party.
They're trying to now argue, you didn't see and you
didn't hear all of the things that you thought you
saw and that you thought you heard. The reality is
this is just a manufactured story. Why would they do that?
(04:30):
Why would they do an entire article. I talked to
the writers in the New York Times for probably twenty minutes.
Why would they do an entire article about a story
that they claim is not really a story? Because they
are getting smoked in the world of pop culture right now,
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and I think this is indicative of a massive shift
that we are seeing not only take place in the
worlds of politics, but in the world's of culture, which
I would argue are maybe even more influential. Sidney Sweeney
moves to Florida registers as a Republican decides, Hey, I'm
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going to be in a genes ad for a company
like American Eagle, and we're going to refer to me
as having good genes j E A n S and
genes g E n E S. And rather than say, okay,
that's fine, blonde hair, blue eyed girl selling apparel. Thirty
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percent of America is white girls. It's not crazy that
there would be an attractive white woman in an genes ad.
Left loses their mind. They're threatened culturally by a girl
who's in her twenties, is a registered Republican and is
willing to say, Hey, I'm pretty and I'm going to
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sell ads, and I'm going to sell products based on
my attractiveness, which, by the way, is basically the entire
basis of the influencer economy. Everybody likes to pick on
all the girls on Instagram who are walking around in
their spandex outfits and they're holding up there. You know,
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I don't know. I'm not healthy enough to even know
what they sell. Producer Ali, you can let me know
they eat like the yogurts. It's gonna be a good clip.
I'm not even healthy enough to know what healthy attractive
young women eat. I think they eat the yogurt I
think they eat some smoothies. A lot of them don't
eat anyway. They're all really good looking and they walk
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around and they're like, basically, if you want to be
as good looking as me, then you should buy this product. Ali,
you can tell me what attractive influencers sell. To me.
It seems to be basically yoga pants and smoothies, and
everybody buys them, and everybody makes fun of the influencers.
But I actually think you should make fun of the
people who respond to the influencers. The influence smart Justin
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Bieber's wife, is it Haley Hailey Bieber sold a three
year old makeup company for a billion dollars just in
the last couple of months. I don't know who Hailey
Bieber is. I don't know how makeup works. I don't
know how anything makeup works. I had a this is
actually pretty funny. I had a like something on the
(07:24):
corner of my eye that was messed up, and I
was going to be doing television. I was like, I
think people might see this, and my wife and and
all of her team they were like, every woman can
talk about makeup. I've never heard something talked about where
I had no clue They might as well have been
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speaking Mandarin Chinese. I had no earthly idea what they
were talking about, foundation, base, color, palette, all these I
have no idea. I have no idea how any of
this stuff works. But Hailey Bieber sells a billion dollar
makeup company, and everybody wants to make fun of Kim
Kardashian and Haley Bieber and all these influencers on down
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the float chart. If you want to make fun of somebody,
make fun of the people that are buying their products.
Selling something that people buy is basically the foundation of capitalism.
I don't see anything wrong with what they're doing. But
the American eagle had a choice. American eagle had a choice.
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When everybody decided, they ran the Good Morning America ad
and they said, this is Nazism, this is eugenics, this
is Hitlarian. By the way, funny a lot of young
men on Twitter, they started referring, you know what, they
were calling Sidney Sweeney in the wake of the Left,
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saying that she was Hitler like and this was Nazi
and eugenics. They started calling her Adolph Titler. And I
gotta be honest with you. The humor of young men
on social media is starting to save the culture of
the country because I'll tell you, every fourteen and fifteen
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year old boy in America decides what their sense of
humor is, and every man for the rest of his
life basically has the same sense of humor as a
fourteen and fifteen year old boy. Every grandpa who's seventy
five right now, he just laughed at Adolf Titler. I
guarantee you he did. And if he didn't, it's because
he's trying to pretend to the woman in the car
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with him that he's actually more mature than he actually is.
They're calling her ADOLFH. Titler in response. That is genius.
It's really funny. But American Eagle had a decision. Do
they stand behind Adolph Tittler aka Sidney Sweeney or or
do they do what so many media companies and so
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many advertising companies and so many different media outlets have
done for so long. Do they issue that apology and
kind of step back. Last night, American Eagle took over
the Sphere, which is the really wildly revolutionary concert venue
(10:12):
that exists out in Las Vegas. If you travel it
looks like a big eye you've probably seen it on
social media all night long. They ran American Eagle Sidney Sweeney,
ads of her in her genes. They have said, We're
not going to allow these left wing lunatic losers to
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dictate the choices that we are making. They didn't do
to Sidney Sweeney what was done to Grant Napier five
years ago. When somebody gets a little bit controversial, they
cancel them, They put them on the sidelines, they run
and hide from them. Simultaneous with that, Sidney Sweeney is
on the big sphere. I'm in Atlanta right now, thank
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you to our affiliate down here extra one zero six
point three. I am basically right next door to the
Atlanta Braves, where, by the way, Major League Baseball didn't
officially apologize, but they showed right back up here with
the All Star Game, which was a direct response in
many ways to the lies told by the Biden administration
(11:18):
about the voting rights bill in Georgia. They brought the
All Star Game here. There wasn't a hint of complaint
the left wingers like Stacy Abrams and Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris, who had all argued this is Jim Crow
This is Jim Eagle. This is modern day Confederacy in
the state of Georgia where I am right now. They
shot it all down. That connects also to what I
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was seeing last night watched The Braves. While I'm watching
the Braves, awful season for the Braves, by the way,
great organization. I'm scrolling through and I start to see
going viral as the kids are returning to college campuses,
tens of millions of views for these sec sorority girls
dressed up in patriotic colors celebrating the United States as
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a way to recruit freshman girls to join their sorority.
And I just thought, Sidney Sweeney, Atlanta Braves All Star Game,
and now SEAC Sororities America is back. Being proud to
be an American is back. Culturally, we are winning. The
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New York Times is writing articles claiming that nobody's actually
offended by Sidney Sweeney because they know they're on the
wrong side of these issues, and so they claim the
issue doesn't exist anymore. I'm starting to hear from people
out there who were totally silent when I was speaking
out against men and women's sports that are now saying
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I don't know why you're still talking about this. Well,
I'm still talking about it because it's still happening. And
the reason you don't want to talk about it anymore
is because you're wrong. You lost. We are winning across
the cultural landscape, politics, business, sports, movies, all of it
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is moving in the direction of sanity and repudiating everything
by and large that has happened over the last seven
or eight years. And I understand how some of you
may be skeptical, some of you may not be seeing
it or feeling it. But even even the New York
Times is pretending this cultural battle isn't even happening, because
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otherwise they would have to acknowledge that they are getting
their ass kicked, and that people are turning the back,
turning their back on the whole woke universe, and not
only turning their back on it, working hard to completely
reverse it is downstream from culture. That's why I've been
arguing now is the time to add on more steam
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to truly make a difference. Bottom of the hour. I
think this is even starting to impact the biggest movies
that are out there. Superman didn't have the success that
it would have in my opinion, if the moron director
of Superman had not come out and said it's about
immigration and it's a political movie. I really think we
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are starting to see a return to sanity and consequences
for those who interject politics into every fabric of American life.
And that, my friends, is something to be very very
happy about as we're rolling into this weekend. Now, look,
a lot of you out there are heads of households.
You're the mom or the dad, or the grandma or
(14:53):
the grandpa that's making a lot of decisions out there
for your family. You might be even already thinking about Thanksgiving,
think about Christmas, and maybe you're thinking about, hey, how
do I get everybody to come to Christmas? Because we
got different family members that are mad at each other.
If you're the peacemaker in your family, if you're the
individuals that try to bring everybody together, have you thought
(15:15):
about what would happen if you weren't there for Thanksgiving,
if you weren't there for Christmas? Have you thought about
the fights that might ensue if you weren't there to
help stop them from happening. I bet every mom out
there listening has I bet every dad out there listening
has I bet every grandma and grandpa out there listening
has well, have you thought about the fights that might
ensue if you don't tell your kids and grandkids exactly
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We're rolling through the Friday edition of the program. I
thought this was a fun topic. I was reading this
morning getting ready for all the prep. By the way, Buck,
we'll be back with me Monday. He's in the Highlands
through the weekend with his family, so he's texted me
(19:17):
that he's met a lot of you, and so thanks
for everybody who's being super kind to him. And thanks,
by the way to Extra one zero six point three
are Atlanta, Georgia area affiliate. I'm going to watch the
Atlanta Braves with my family for the weekend. It has
not been a great season. I know that Ian Miller
is a big Dodgers fan. It has been a good
Dodger season. Maybe he wants to talk trash about that.
(19:38):
But I was reading your piece this morning as I
was getting ready. Ian and Ian Wrights at OutKick owned
by Fox News Now, but that I founded and Ian
my kids love, and my family has long loved all
the superhero movies. I've got three boys. I've seen every
superhero movie in the theaters. It feels like to me,
(20:01):
Avengers End Game happened, and it was the two part finale,
and frankly, it was pretty fantastic. I loved it. It
was really well done, and ever since then people have
basically decided superhero movies were finished with them. Is that
a bad take? Fair take? How would you analyze this
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and what is American response to these movies in your mind?
Telling us about the larger culture?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, first of all, always happy to talk trash about
the Dodgers being the braves whenever necessary. But as far
as the superhero movies go, I think you're exactly right.
After Avengers Endgame, there is this dramatic shift, and I
think you can kind of point it to Marvel completely
changing their philosophy of what characters they wanted to present,
how they wanted to present them. So you can go
(20:49):
back and look at the list of movies they've released
since twenty twenty, it's things like Black Widow, Shun Chi Eternals,
you know, Ant Man three, the Marvels, things like that,
and they flopped. I mean, it's been one disaster after another.
There's been a couple of successes mixed in there, but
for the large part, it's been really these movies that
have just not done very well. And I think they've
(21:09):
kind of had these checkboxes of targets they wanted to
hit people.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
They wanted to target these.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Movies too, and it hasn't panned out, And I think
that there is a fatigue now and people have really
kind of tuned them out in the American culture, and
then people are sick and tired of going to the
movies not knowing that they're going to get some kind
of unexpected political lecture and was supposed to be a summer,
fun popcorn movie.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Have you seen the Newest Superman?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I haven't. Actually no, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I haven't either. My wife and youngest son went and
watched it and they said that it was not particularly woke.
But James Gunn, the director, said that the movie was
political before he came out. He said it was an
immigration story, so he said, of course it's political, and
I think it stripped a lot of what otherwise would
(21:58):
have been maybe positivity for the movie away. And you
dove into the math because a lot of people don't
dive into the math. You're a smart guy. The reason
I first became aware of you was you were porting
out the math of you Live in LA and how
COVID was absolutely handled in just an indefensible management manner
by California and we may circle back on that in
(22:19):
a sec. But what is the math on Superman. It's
headed for losing money, even though most people aren't really
breaking it down.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Yeah, and I think that's you hit it me on
the head again with guns comments. It was just so
unnecessary and bizarre. And I think even though the movie
wasn't particularly political, it made it political. And you know,
it hasn't done that poorly domestically. But what we've seen
is that, you know, maybe if it costs itself, maybe
there were two million people that we're going to go
see or on the fence and didn't because of what
(22:50):
Gun said. Well, that's two million people that didn't buy
twenty dollars movie tickets and so on and so forth,
and it adds up over time. And right now where
it's tracking is it's probably going to lose somewhere around
you know, seventy to eighty one hundred million dollars globally,
because you know, the production budget is so high, the
advertising budget is so high. It had to make around
seven hundred million dollars globally to break even. It's not
(23:11):
going to do that, and when you adjust for inflation,
it's done significantly worse than Man of Steel, which was
kind of the last big Superman movie that came out,
which is twenty thirteen. So it's just it's an unnecessary
comment that I think turned people off to seeing it
that were otherwise had no reason not to go see it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I talked earlier Ian about the culture of sports. We
talked to Grant Apier, who was out in California where
you live, lost his job for simply saying, all lives matter,
every single one. Certainly, there's been a great deal of
discussion about Sidney Sweeney. I don't know if you've happened
to see all of the sec sorority recruitment videos that
(23:50):
are going wildly viral now, including very patriotic ones, even
living in California. Do you sense that we have seen
a profound cultural shift or are you skeptical?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
No, I definitely do think there is There has been
a cultural shift, and it's especially among I think younger
generations that you had for so many years, this kind
of political movement that you woke for lack of a
better word, that wanted to like stamp out fun and
just being able to enjoy yourself without apologizing for it.
And I think the younger generations have finally tuned that out.
I think there was about a ten to fifteen year
window where people were kind of listening to that and
(24:26):
how people are tired of it and thank God for it,
and I think that's part of the reason why these
movies have failed. And once you kind of lose the
benefit of the doubt of the consumer, it's very hard to.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Get it back. And that cultural shift is part of it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
People have changed how they view movies, how they view entertainment,
what they want to get out of entertainment, and you know,
when you're not providing that, you're not going to do well.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And that's what we've.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Seen twenty twenty eight. It's early. We may still end
up with Gavin Newsome against Governor Ron DeSantis. It does
feel to me like that is the most evid opposite
political perspectives from a governatorial perspective right now. Right what
Florida did during COVID, the way that they have run
(25:09):
their state, what California did during COVID, the way that
Gavin Newsom has run his state. As someone living in California,
are more people acknowledging that Gavin Newsom got it wrong?
When you're moving around in social circles. Or do you
think people in California now, rather than admit they got
things wrong, are just pretending COVID never happened and moving on.
(25:31):
What is the vibe there?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, I think it's a bit of a mixed bag
where there are some people that are just pretending it
never happened, and there are, but there are a number
of people that kind of were on the political left
that have acknowledged, you know, we got this wrong. I
think Newsom's approval ratings have been underwater even in California
and one in the most hardcore blue states because he's
done such a bad job, and that contrast could not
be more starked with COVID. But it's also with everything.
(25:55):
Like if there's a natural disaster in Florida, Ron DeSantis
has got everything prepared ahead of time, the response is immaculate,
it's immediate, and things are fixed quickly and people are
back up and running within a matter of days. In California,
we have just this spectacular incompetence where everything is slow,
nothing gets done quickly, the responses are never planned ahead
(26:16):
of time. Obviously, we had the disastrous fires in La
in January and the recovery has been a train wreck,
and that exemplifies what has happened with Newsom versus in
California and the failure in Blue states compared to what
we've seen in Florida.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Jennifer Say is a friend of mine. She's founded a
clothing company xx x Y Athletics. Some of you may
have seen it. She used to work at Levi's, which
was based in San Francisco. And since I was just
asking you about COVID, I know you were fired up
about this. Ian As a dad, I spoke out immensely
about the importance of schools being reopened. I continue to
(26:50):
meet so many kids out there that had their schools
shut down. I met a kid up at the University
of Chicago recently went to school in California. He said, yeah,
we left it March. I was a junior in high
school and I never came back again, and so he
only saw his classmates again at graduation. You think about
(27:10):
what happens when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Jennifer
has made a documentary and I would encourage you guys
to watch this, but Ian, I want to play it
for you, and then I want to get your reaction
to whether we have had what should have been a
full sort of reconciliation in some way for the disaster
of shutting down schools. But this book focuses on This
(27:33):
documentary focuses on kids. It has recently been completed. Full disclosure.
I donated money to help make it. But I think
it is really really good. Here is cut five. This
is a new film documenting the impact of COVID lockdowns
on kids. Just listen to this audio.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Western democracy has been replaced with the higher security state oas.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues
where groups of people congregate should be closed.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
I expected it to only be for like two weeks
and then we get back to school.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
At the time, it felt great, and then surely enough
it started to be very worrying.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I've had a plan to myself, and I thought about
it every day.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
You cannot treat kids like prisoners and expect them to
be okay.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The memories that we have lost, the experiences that we
have lost, the skills that we have lost, and now
we have to reget that and go out into the world.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
It has to be an honest discussion about what went on.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
This is something that my generation will not forget. This
is also something that my generation will not forgive.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really powerful and again the film it's called Generation COVID.
When I travel around and I spend a lot of
time on college campuses, I don't think we are talking
enough about the anger or of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
twenty year old kids who had years of their life
taken away for a virus that bore them no threat
(29:10):
at all. They're profoundly angry. I think it's one reason
young men in particular have moved so aggressively towards Trump.
Do you sense that, Ian, Because I really do, and
I don't think it's talked about hardly at all.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I think that it's absolutely one of the biggest explanations
for how the culture has shifted. How you know young
men have shifted, You know they had their their youth
kind of taken away from them. Listening to that Anthony
Fauci quote there is that's the perfect example where you
had this one man who was making kind of dictatorial
statements about what should happen, never really presenting any evidence
(29:45):
for it, and then never correcting himself or apologizing when
he found out he was wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And because you know, you had these these retrictions going for.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Years and years and years, and children were incredibly harmed
by this, and there was never any discussion of it.
There's never been any discussion of it. It's that, like
we were saying about California, people just want to forget
that it happened. But the people that live through it
have not forgotten, and they're not going to forget. And
I think it's going to change their lives forever with
how they view politics or they view.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Government, how they view these restrictions.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And I think we have not really fully reckoned with
it because we don't want to. We don't want to
admit what we did to that generation and how it's
going to impact them.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
For the rest of their lives.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Ian.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Appreciate the work. Tell people how they can find you
out there. But good stuff on diving into the math
behind some of these movies and continuing to fight for
basic sanity when it comes to data.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Thanks for having me, Clay right and now kick every
day and on Twitter just Ian MFC, thanks a lot
for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
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Let's go in order here. Actually, let's start with HH.
Every topic under the sun that we have been discussing
so far today. If you don't understand, you need to
(32:51):
go listen to the podcast, go subscribe on YouTube. You
can watch all of it. HH. Curtis from Sacramento now
lives in Mount Juliet Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Great show. Play buck. Hey, look, I live in Mount
Juliet now, but I was in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I listened to Grant Napier.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I didn't agree with him on one hundred percent of
the things about the Kings, but I want to tell
you something, Jerry Reynolds and Grant Napier was.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
An extremely funny NBA radio broadcast to listen to.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So have a good one.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
He's a good guy. He got.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Grant was thank you. Yeah, Grant was fired. If you
missed that interview, All lives matter, every single one. After
twenty six years on radio, thirty two years on TV,
he was fired. He lost his job really for saying
all lives matter, every single one. He now has got
a new sports talk radio show. I love that that
story is being rectified in some way. Rachel and Raleigh,
(33:45):
North Carolina.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
JJ, Hey, Colorado mountain guy. This is Rachel from North Carolina,
and yes, our mountains are actual mountains. In fact, there's
some of the oldest mountain ranges on the planet. So
give us a little bit of cred there. That may
not be as tall because they've been worn down, but
they are actual mountains and they are stunning. So stood back, dude.
(34:07):
And also they're not run by communists, at least not yet.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Fingers crossed a lot of I would not have expected
mountain trash talk. When I sat down to do the
show today. We had a Colorado caller who went after
me for saying Buck was in the mountains, saying that
they're smoky mountains are not mountains, and the mountains on
the East coast KK Todd was firing away from the
Colorado KK. Let's listen Colorado.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I love the Tennessee Smoky Mountains, but I think Cleanland's
dome is like six thousand feet. We have fifty three
fourteen ers in Colorado. You know, fourteen thousand feet.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I mean, just mountain trash talk. Would you have you
ever heard it before? Kenny in Saint louis one oh
four point nine in between the Smoky Mountains and Colorado,
and he's weighing in, what's he got?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Love you?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yoh Lingman's film is like six thousand something feet.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
The guy in Colorado is talking about fourteen thousand plus feet.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I think he's got a little.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Room to talk. Don't here we go by the way,
Let's see Jana from Milwaukee says, well, she's got a question.
Let's listen. Pq QQ from Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Hey guys, Jennefer Milwaukee, big fan of the show.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Love seeing you guys pop up on various Fox News shows,
and my question is when are you going to pop
up on my favorite Fox News show, Gutfeld.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I have been on Gutfeld. I haven't been on in
a while because you have to be present in New
York City, and I would imagine the same is true
for Buck. We just haven't been up in New York
that much. I'm scheduled to be up in New York
for some events in September, so maybe I'll be on Gutfeld.
Then he does a great job, By the way, Gutfeld
credit to Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon had Gutfeld on his
(35:55):
late night talk show on NBC. The Prime Minister of Armenia,
by the way, is about to arrive at the White
House as we are speaking. Finally, Renee from Florida, she's
upset because I'm not using grammar correctly.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Oh, I just wanted to give you a little piece
of advice. Because you can count them, it's fewer. If
you can't, it's less. So for example, we have fewer
pennies but less money.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Just let you know there's a zero percent chance that
I'm going to get that correct. You know, I try
to be pretty good on grammar. I'm probably not gonna
get fewer and less correct. I'm sorry to all the
grammarians out there in this universe. I will continue to
mangle the English language to the best of my ability.
I love all of you. Have fabulous weekends. I'm gonna
go watch the Atlanta Braves play the Marlins with my family.
(36:45):
It's gonna be a fun weekend. I hope you all
have one as well. We'll be back Buck and Me
on Monday. Let's see it then,
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