September 29, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay dives into a packed hour of breaking news, cultural debates, and global diplomacy. The hour opens with anticipation of a major White House press conference featuring President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, unveiling a 20-point Middle East peace plan aimed at ending the war in Gaza, securing the release of hostages, and creating conditions for long-term stability. Clay emphasizes Trump’s stance: if Hamas rejects the deal, Israel has full U.S. backing to eliminate the terror group.
The discussion also covers domestic headlines, including New York City Mayor Eric Adams dropping out of the race, ongoing fallout from James Comey-related charges, and reactions to J.K. Rowling’s comments on the transgender debate. Clay also touches on a shocking attack on a Latter-Day Saints church in Michigan, being investigated as a possible terror incident.
Listeners weigh in on political polarization, with fiery calls about whether friendships can survive across party lines. Clay pushes back against the idea of cutting off friends over politics, arguing that persuasion—not isolation—is key to winning elections. He draws parallels between political outreach and religious evangelism, stressing the importance of engaging with those who disagree.
Sports and culture also take center stage as Clay responds to criticism of his belief that sports fans are rational and vital in cultural battles, using examples like Riley Gaines’ fight for fairness in women’s sports. He argues that abandoning cultural arenas like sports only cedes ground to the Left.
The hour closes with live coverage of Trump’s remarks, highlighting his call for Palestinian leadership to reject terrorism and embrace reform, and his insistence that lasting peace requires security for Israel and opportunity for Palestinians. Clay underscores the historic stakes of this proposal and promises continued analysis as developments unfold.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton show
Buck is in Taiwan and he is he'll be back
next week, but he is as far away almost as
either of us have been. I think I went to Australia,
but so many different moving stories out there. Buck. We'll
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be back next week. We are awaiting the press conference,
which we will go to live in the event that
it happens before the show ends today. That press conference
scheduled to start any moment with Benjamin net Yahoo and
President Trump relating to potential Middle East peace agreement. Obviously
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very big deal if you are just now joining us.
We've been following a lot of different stories. The church
attack on the Christian Latter Day Saints facility in Michigan
continues to be followed as being a look debt as
a terror attack. Eric Adams has dropped out of the
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New York City Mayor's race. Continued fallout from the Komi
charges over the course of the weekend, and our friend
JK Rowlling weighed in and I'm gonna read some more
of what she had to say about the situation surrounding
trans debate. Do men who identify as women become women? Again,
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we are waiting in real time spinning plates here a
little bit to see when or if that White House
press availability between Net and Yahu and Trump is going
to begin. The fine bomb Paul Finebaum news that I
have shared with you guys. I'll be on Will Caine's
show talking about this on Fox News in a little
bit as there is I think a very real chance
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that Paul Finebaum of the ESPN and the SEC Network
is going to soon announce that he is running for
Senate in the state of Alba Obama. We played some
cuts for you of that, and many of you are
continuing to react. Let he hit a couple of your
emails that came in directly to me. We had one
of our callers down there saying that he was that
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he was interested in the Fine bamb situation and it
was of the Allison family. And this is a note
from one of our listeners that was awesome. You may
not realize the older gentleman eighty nine years old, listens
to the show every single day that called from Alabama.
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He's a part of the Allison family, the first family
of NASCAR in Alabama. That gentleman was literally part of
the living legends that are part of the Allison family
and the Hugheytown Gang. He was the racer that got
into a fight at the conclusion of the first Daytona
five hundred that was ever televised from start to finish.
Nice little treat to my day. Thank you, guys, keep
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up the great work. That was positive email. Gary is upset.
Did you know who you were talking to? Eddie Allison,
the older brother of the famous Allison Brothers of Nascar.
You didn't give him much time.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Look, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
All I get is a first name and a state,
and so I appreciate him calling. He's welcome to call
back anytime. I loved the call. Eighty nine years old
said he listens to the show while he's out in
his backyard on his swing. That sounds amazing to me,
and we appreciate him calling. We appreciate all of you
who are listening all over the place. Dean is upset
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with me because I said that I've got friends and
I don't talk about politics with Dean from South Florida
says he can't be friends with anybody whoever voted for
a Democrat. Ff.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't have any liberal friends. They're just not ethical.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They're not moral.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would never be friends with anybody that voted for
har or Sir Biden. These guys are low life scumbags.
And if you vote for Trump, I can be friends
with you. I can never be friends with anybody that
votes for a Democrat. They're just scumbags.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I disagree. I just I understand some people are like
First of all, that's what a lot of left wingers do.
They're the ones that are more likely, I think, to
just cut off relations. Oh you voted for Trump, you
can't come to Thanksgiving anymore. Oh you won't wear a
mask everywhere you go. Good luck coming over for Christmas.
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I don't think that's healthy. I really don't. I've got
a ton of friends that frankly disagree with me on
everything politically, and I know those people long before Trump,
and I'm gonna know them long after Trump. So I
just I don't believe in the idea of cutting people
out of your life who have different political opinions than you.
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I actually think we need more people who are willing
to be friends with people across the eye. And just
think about this. I think it's hard to demonize Trump
supporters if you like me are an admitted Trump supporter,
and people in your life who may vote on the
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left are have to think about you as that Trump supporter,
as opposed to just this amorphous idea they've created of Oh,
the Trump supporters are all dumb, ignorant, stupid, redneck, racist, transphobic, whatever, homophobic,
whatever slurs you want, hitler, hitler, nazi, bootstepping, awful human beings.
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I think that you can only believe that if you
don't actually know Trump supporters in your life. And I
got to tell you, there's lots of people who vote Democrat.
Almost every single day I hear from somebody who says,
you know what, Clay, I'm a little bit like you.
Go back and listen to what Bill Clinton said in
nineteen ninety two. It is nothing like with the modern
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demo crap Party believes Bill Clinton nineteen ninety two would
be a Republican right now, Bill Clinton nineteen ninety six Republican.
I'm not saying he's right on every issue, but Donald
Trump used to be a Democrat, and then he saw
the light and started to recognize how crazy everything was going.
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Donald Trump gave money to the Clintons back in the day.
Trump is just saying, and there are a lot of
us out there that are just saying. And we look
around and we say, there's a crazy party and that's
the Democrats. And there's the same party and that's the Republicans.
It's my opinion, but I bet a lot of you
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in your lives, you know, people who are voting Democrat
just because they decided they were on the Democrat team
when they were sixteen years old, and they may be
sixty six now, and the Democrat Party of fifty years
ago is nothing like the Democrat Party today. And every
day a few of them see the light, they get
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red pilled. And I think one way they do it
is by interacting with normal, rational, reasonable people who they
actually have a moment of thought and think, wait a minute,
play's not crazy. Why is he a Trump guy? And
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they start to work through. Not everybody, but there are
enough people out there that start to think that through.
And that's how Trump win one in twenty twenty four,
That's how he won the popular vote. So I understand
the frustration out there of how do they not see you?
Everything that I see? This is why I read everything.
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I am very confident that I could make the arguments
they make in the New York Times as good or
better than they do. But could two. We are aware
of all of their arguments, we're making the ones that
we think are better, which is how we ended up
a Trump supporter. But I don't think you help your
arguments by just running in the corner, covering your ears
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and being like, I only want to be surrounded by
people that agree with me on everything, every minute of
every day. To me, that's what Democrats do. That's how
their party has become toxic. That's how it's become such
a shrinking tent. You have to interact with arguments with
which you disagree, to understand why you agree with the
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ones that you do. So look, I love the fact
that Dean is a listener, but I don't understand and
don't think it's helpful to just say what a leftist would.
I'm cutting everybody else off who doesn't agree with me
one hundred percent on everything. I don't think that's healthy.
I would never cut off friends or family personally because
of their politics, and I wouldn't want you to either.
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I don't think that's healthy. Moreover, you can't win doing that.
The way you win is by expanding your coalition. There
aren't enough die hard right wingers to get anybody elected
in any competitive state. You have to appeal to reasonable,
rational people out there that might be super busy. They
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got real things going on in your life. I got
three boys. Do you know how much time we spend
scheduling getting those boys to all of their events? I
got a ninth grade football game to get to. I
really believe that my son's games. It's almost like they're
pranking us to try to play the games in the
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most difficult places to get to at the most difficult
place at times five point thirty kickoff an hour and
a half from my house. We live in a major
American city. There's nowhere they could have gone close. No,
we got to drive all over the place. People are busy.
I appreciate y'all who are listening every single day and
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following and being super attentive with the politics of the moment.
You guys are what we should want from an enlightened electorate.
But if only people knew what was going on every
day in the country voted, there wouldn't be very many voters.
Most people are really busy trying to get their kids
to and from sporting events, trying to make sure they're
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making enough money to pay off their mortgage. They don't
have time to get enmeshed in every issue. A lot
of people just vote the way they have for a
long time. You gotta be there when suddenly they are
antenna go up and they think for a minute, wait,
this doesn't make very much sense. That doesn't sound like
something that a Democrat would have said in nineteen eighty
eight or nineteen ninety eight. In fact, a lot of
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the arguments Trump's making right now, Democrats made them twenty
five thirty years ago. So that's my argument of how
you win politics is the art of persuasion. It's about
communication and making the right decisions. And if you decide
I don't want to communicate with anybody who is persuadable
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or willing to listen to you, I think you guarantee
that you're perpetually in the minority. Chris from Tampa GG
what's he got?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Hey, Clay? I love you to death, but since you
brought it up. You always say you trust people more
if they watch football. I trust people less if they
watch football, because one minute they're mad at football, the
next minute they're not mad at football and all the
crap that football's pulled over to years, and sports just
in general for the most part. Well, all this protesting
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and crap, I'm not giving my money to the enemy.
Why I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I respect that argument. Here's my argument in the contrary,
Then you just give over everything to left wingers. I
mean I could have just said, you know what, I'm
fed up with what I see from left wing politics.
I'm not gonna make arguments anymore. I'm not gonna found
out kick. I'm not gonna do this show and try
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to speak to a larger community. I'm not gonna worry
about sports media at all because they disagree with me.
So I'm gonna go spend my time doing something else.
And by the way, the Titans are so bad that
a part of me is not watching as much NFL
just because my team is the worst in the NFL
and I got other things that I would rather do
than watch my team get their ass kicked. But we're winning.
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What you're saying would lead to Ohriley Gaines was swimming
against a dude pretending to be a chick. She should
have just said I'm done with swimming and gone and
spent her time doing something else. Well, what about all
those other little girls out there. You don't win by
abandoning the battlefield. You might feel better, but to me,
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you're like the kid who takes his ball in goes
home when he's getting his ass kicked in a game.
I'm gonna put on the gloves and I'm gonna throw
punches because I think I'm better at it than the
other side. But if I just leve them and leave
him alone in the ring, he's gonna raise his arms
above the sky and name himself the champion, and he's
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going to destroy In my opinion, American culture, you win
by fighting. You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well,
they're mean, I don't agree with some of this stuff.
I'm out lace them up, put in your mouthguard, and
start throwing haymakers. That's what I do every day, and
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I think we've won because we have better arguments. But
that requires that you not abandon the battlefield. And so
I think the battlefield of culture is what ultimately decides
elections in this country. In sports is maybe the foremost
battlefield and the reason why I trust sports fans is
because ultimately they're everybody believes in the scoreboard, and the
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scoreboard right now is Republicans are scoring points and making
sense and Democrats are not. And if you keep putting
points up on your side of the scoreboard, eventually the
culture changes and Donald Trump wins a popular vote victory,
and hopefully we can string several of those together. That's
my thought process, and trust me, I spend a lot
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for the Trump press conference and availability with Benjamin Nett
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're still awaiting the
press conference with Israel, Vinjaminette, Yahoo, and President Trump. Jennifer Hh,
she's with the other guy. Can't be friends with anybody
who voted Kamala.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Listen, hello, I'm absolutely with that guy. I cannot be
friends with anybody who voted for Kamala, Harris Ever or
Beck Biden.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
No way.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So how do you win? I understand that you're sitting
around and you're like, I'm gonna cut you out, which
is actually a very left wing thing to do. Left
wingers are far more likely to say, you can't come
to Thanksgiving, you can't come to Christmas, I'm cutting off
all family relations. I don't think that's healthy. But how
do you win? Politics requires that you persuade people who
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didn't maybe support you before into supporting you in the future.
So if your goal is just to feel better about
yourself and feel like you're ideologically pure, then more power
to you. I guess psychologically that might be satisfying, But
my goal is to win. I'm not just trying to
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feel better about myself. I'm trying to win a competitive endeavor.
And in order to win a competitive endeavor, you have
to convince people that you're right. And the only way
you can convince people that you're right is by talking
to people who disagree with you, because otherwise you can't
win an election. So what is the goal. Is it
to be ideologically pure and to be just feel better
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about yourself or is it to win? My goal is
to win, and in order to win, you got to
persuade people that you're right. That's the entire basis of
the political process we're going to try to win with.
By the way, press conference is starting right now. We
will go to it live when we come back. President
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(18:56):
We're about to go to the White House where President
Trump is speaking a lot alongside of Benjamin net Yahoo
twenty part piece plan for the Middle East. When we
jump in here, it's probably going to be complicated, like
jumping into the deep end of the pool. So I'm
going to be listening along with you. We may pull
out just because it's going to be so complicated and
(19:17):
we're jumping in right in the middle. Let me give
you one thing in response to some of those callers
saying like, hey, I don't want to interact with anybody
who voted the other way. I don't think you can
win that way. Also got a story quickly here as
we get ready for Trump. You know what my grandparents
did when they retired. Grandfather worked in a factory. His
whole life. Grandmother was a school teacher in Georgia. Grandfather
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was a factory worker in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. They
went to work ministering to prisoners who hadn't found Jesus yet.
They set in their homes and wrote letters constantly to prisoners,
people who were in prison and often for doing very
awful things, to try to convince them to find Jesus
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in their life. Reason why I bring it up? If
you are religious, would you ever say I only want
to interact with Christians. If you truly believe that the
goal of a religion is to save people from eternal damnation,
wouldn't you want to focus on trying to save people
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like my grandparents did. In order to convert, you have
to go to the unconverted. It's easy to preach to
the choir. It might make you feel better to never
be challenged. But real calling is convincing people of something
they have not yet realized. In my opinion, that's the
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entire purpose of Christianity, because otherwise Christianity would have ended
very quickly. If you said, oh, I'm only going to
talk to other people who are Christians, then it would
never spread. It would have never turned into the life
changing and cultural enrichment that it became. Just think about that.
I understand that politics and religion are somewhat different, but
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just think about that in your own life. If I'm
only talking to people who agree with me all the time,
how can you change the world, how can you make
it better? And what would have happened to Christianity if
early Christians had said that I'm only going to talk
to people who are already Christians. I don't have time
for anybody else. It might make you feel better internally,
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but it's not changing the world. Trust me. Okay, let's
go live right now to what we hope could change
the world, which is peace in the Middle East. Trump
is trying to help make it happen. Benjamin A. And
Yahoo they're with him. This is White House right now live.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody
involved ask me to do this so it would be
headed by them known as President Donald J.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Trump of the United States.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's what I want is some extra work to do,
but it's so important that I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
And we'll do it right.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And we're going to put leaders from other countries on
and leaders that are very distinguished leaders, and we'll have
a board and one of the people that wants to
be on the board is the UK former Prime Minister
Tony Blair, good Man, very good man, and some others,
and they'll be named over the next few days and
it'll be quite the board working. Everybody wants to be
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on it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I don't know if that had anything to do. They
name me and everybody else wanted to be on it.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I guess they figure, well, he's a soft touch, he'll
be easy to deal.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
With, working with the World Bank and others.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It'll be responsible for recruiting and training a new government
that will be made up of Palestinians along with highly
qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and other
terrorist factions will play no role in the board, but
they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all,
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directly or indirectly. As you know, thousands of Hamas leaders
have been killed and soldiers have been killed, and we
can never forget October seventh, but thousands have paid the
price for that, and now it's time to get our
hostages back and get back to trying to.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Build something that's really great and very important.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
In our meeting today Prime Minister Netya, who is very
clear about his opposition to a Palestinian state, and he
continuously mentions October seventh, and I understand that most people do,
and I understand and respect his position on many things.
But what he's doing today is so good for Israel.
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And I noticed that they have large crowds gathering in
Israel all the time, and they have my name up.
They like me for whatever reason. Maybe I don't know,
but they do like me. But they say two things.
Please get the hostages back and please end the war.
They've had it. So I think it's a very popular
thing you do.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Because he's a warrior. He doesn't know about getting back to.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
A normal way of life, but he is a warrior
and Israel is lucky to have him. But now the
people want to get back to peace. They want to
get back to normalization in a true sense. Several countries
have foolish you recognized the Palestinian state. As you know,
some European friends, allies, good people, but they're really, I think,
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doing that because they're very tired of what's going on.
For so many decades. They've been presidents and Prime ministers
for years and during this time having to do with
the Middle East, all they're doing is talking about the
same thing over over. They want to see it get back,
and nobody wants that more than me or I believe
Bib two. But the people of Israel want it, they
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really want it. They want the hostages back. That includes
the probably thirty two bodies that we're talking about, twenty
people that are living, thirty two or so people that
are dead. And they want to have peace. So let
us not forget how we got here. Hamas was elected
by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they
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would live in peace.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Remember that long time ago. They withdrew.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
They said, you take it, this is our contribution to peace.
But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It
was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let
them have it. And I never forgot that because I said,
that doesn't sound like a good deal to me as
a real estate person. I mean, they gave up the ocean, right,
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ron gave up the ocean.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
They said, who would do this deal? And it still
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They were very generous, actually, and they gave up the
most magnificent piece of land in many ways in the
Middle East, and they said, all we want to do
now is that peace, and that request was not honored.
Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, and
Moss diverted resources to build over four hundred miles of
tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their
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military command posts and launch sites in hospital, schools and mosques.
So if you want after them, you'd be after them
and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out
a hospital or school or a mosque.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That terrible thing, terrible, terrible way to have to fight.
No fighter is good, but that's a real bad one.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace, many,
many of many.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I've seen so many of them, and they have And.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny,
because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility
for their destiny. Fully condemned and prohibit terrorism and earn
their way to a brighter future. They don't want the
life that they've had. They've had a rough life within us.
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If the Palestinian authority does not complete the reforms that
I laid out and my vision for peace in twenty twenty,
they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an
amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders
of the Arab world and the Muslim world. The great leaders,
These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders that have
built great countries and very wealthy countries. What the future
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holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows. But the
plan that we put forward today is focused on ending
the war immediately, getting all of our hostages back, getting
everything back, hard to believe when you even say it,
and creating conditions the durable Israeli security in Palestinian success.
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Israeli security is going to be involved.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
We're going to help you. We'll be there with you
in terms of helping with security. We want to make
sure it works. We just want to make sure it works.
They shouldn't be a shot fired.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Now there will be, I guess, because that's the way
it seems to be, but they shouldn't have to be
within a few days. They shouldn't have to be a
shot fired. And maybe for eternity, wouldn't that be nice?
I hope it's true. I can tell you the leadership
of that region feels that there's a good chance of
it being true. So this will lead to a disagreement
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that we're talking about, will lead to a sustainable, long
term piece. No president in history has been a greater
friend of the State of Israel than I have. In
addition to negotiating the Obra Home Accords. I like to
say it that way because the real people that's what
they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but it's so
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much nicer when you say Abraham.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, that is vintage Trump. Let's pull here, We're
gonna go to a break. Biggest takeaway here is that
Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said quote
if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release
of all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case more
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than seventy two hours. The hostages are coming back. But
if they do not agree to this, he is saying, basically,
you're gonna have to deal with net and Yahoo, essentially
Hamas and the people of Gaza. This is my last
best offer, and it's time to accept it. We'll continue
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to monitor, We'll grab you a couple of clips as
we are going to break here. This is all happening
in real time. Trump trying as many presents c it's
before him have and frankly, as every president before him
so far has failed to create a form of lasting
peace in the Middle East. Is a twenty part piece
plan that the White House has released, that is he
(30:16):
is discussing right now. Very complicated, but we certainly will
be talking about it a lot, probably starting tomorrow throughout
the course of the week as we wait to see
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Speaker 1 (31:43):
Welcome Back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, President Trump
right now addressing the situation in Hamas in Gaza as
a result of Hamas's actions, and the key takeaway I
would say right now, and I'm sure we're going to
be talking about this a lot tomorrow is Israel has
(32:03):
agreed to the twenty point piece plan put in place
by Trump and his administration. So far Hamas has not.
And that is the that is the status of where
we are. So I always think, how can I sum
up a situation as succinctly as possible, because the world
(32:27):
is complicated and it's very hard. Sometimes Trump has said,
if Hamas rejects the deal, Israel has my full backing
to destroy Hamas. This is interesting because ultimately, even if
(32:47):
you're not engaged in the Middle East, here's an easy
concept to consider. If Israel put down its weapons, Israel
would not exist within a week. If all of Israel's
adversaries put down their weapons, there would be peace in
the Middle East. Very simple. If you're wondering who is
(33:07):
the aggressor here, who is the bad guy? Hamas is
the bad guy.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
There are lots of people, I think who live in
the Palestinian era, who live in Gaza, that are fantastic
people that just want to raise that live in peace
and want to raise their families and have prosperity. Unfortunately,
Hamas is not allowing that to happen, and I feel fortunate.
(33:33):
About ten months ago, we took a long trip to Israel.
It was eye opening, it was educational, it was enriching,
and I came back more convinced than ever before that
we have to ensure that we do everything we can
to bring peace to the Middle East because if we
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do not, eventually we reap that whirlwind of conflict even here.
That's my opinion. Some of you disagree, by the way,
a lot of people agree. A lot of people disagreeing
every single day. That's healthy. That's what a good radio
program should be doing. Buck Sexton, by the way, in
Taiwan this week, so you got me solo. Buck is
on a fact finding mission to Taiwan. I bet he
(34:16):
will come back with some very interesting perspectives on what
may be the biggest flash point in all of Asia.
What is China going to do about Taiwan? That is
where Buck is right now, Scott. A lot of emails
rolling in. Let me read a couple of them. Scott says,
great topic. The biggest problems I see today with the
left is cancel culture. They went so far as to
(34:37):
cancel Charlie Kirk in the most extreme way, and he
wasn't about cancel culture. Let's be different, keep open the
channels of communication. There was a time in our country's
history and I believe the founding fathers thought the same thing.
Men of good conscience can disagree. How about Tip O'Neil
and Ronald Reagan. Let's keep the windows doors of communications open.
(34:58):
Let's be the new Fathers. And here is an email
from Horace. I said, look, the left is the one
that is canceling you. I don't think you win. I
used the example of my grandparents. They retired. They spent
the rest of their life in retirement trying to convince
people who were behind bars in prison that they should
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find Jesus. My grandfather learned how to type. Former football
player at the University of Tennessee, used to complain all
the time that he'd never be able to type because
his fingers were too big for the typing type of board.
My grandmother got him to learn how to type so
that he could reach out to prisoners behind bars and
try to convince them that they should find Jesus. There
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are very few people out there who are more condemned,
who are dealing with more condemnation roaring down upon them,
than people behind bars for violent crimes. That's who my
grandparents decided they were going to speak to. Listen to
this email from Horace. Just think about it. This is
Horace Clay. I really agree with you about being friends
with people who disagree with you. I'm a black Catholic
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conservative Republican. People who I thought were my friends, who
I enjoyed being with, actually cut me loose as a
friend once they discovered I was a Republican. I've been
shunned by other black people who stopped associating with me
and inviting me to get together. It's not been a choice,
necessarily that most of my friends about Trump. My liberal
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friends no longer want anything to do with me. Three
of my four sisters are liberal, but we still have
a great rapport with one another. The one who's a
Trump supporter supports me too. We have a great rapport
as well. I haven't cut off my liberal friends, they've
distanced themselves from me. Love your show, Keep on keeping on, God,
bless God, bless all of you. Will be back tomorrow.
Welcome in our number three, Clay Travis buck Sexton show
Buck is in Taiwan and he is he'll be back
next week, but he is as far away almost as
either of us have been. I think I went to Australia,
but so many different moving stories out there. Buck. We'll
(00:21):
be back next week. We are awaiting the press conference,
which we will go to live in the event that
it happens before the show ends today. That press conference
scheduled to start any moment with Benjamin net Yahoo and
President Trump relating to potential Middle East peace agreement. Obviously
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very big deal if you are just now joining us.
We've been following a lot of different stories. The church
attack on the Christian Latter Day Saints facility in Michigan
continues to be followed as being a look debt as
a terror attack. Eric Adams has dropped out of the
(01:04):
New York City Mayor's race. Continued fallout from the Komi
charges over the course of the weekend, and our friend
JK Rowlling weighed in and I'm gonna read some more
of what she had to say about the situation surrounding
trans debate. Do men who identify as women become women? Again,
(01:29):
we are waiting in real time spinning plates here a
little bit to see when or if that White House
press availability between Net and Yahu and Trump is going
to begin. The fine bomb Paul Finebaum news that I
have shared with you guys. I'll be on Will Caine's
show talking about this on Fox News in a little
bit as there is I think a very real chance
(01:51):
that Paul Finebaum of the ESPN and the SEC Network
is going to soon announce that he is running for
Senate in the state of Alba Obama. We played some
cuts for you of that, and many of you are
continuing to react. Let he hit a couple of your
emails that came in directly to me. We had one
of our callers down there saying that he was that
(02:13):
he was interested in the Fine bamb situation and it
was of the Allison family. And this is a note
from one of our listeners that was awesome. You may
not realize the older gentleman eighty nine years old, listens
to the show every single day that called from Alabama.
(02:33):
He's a part of the Allison family, the first family
of NASCAR in Alabama. That gentleman was literally part of
the living legends that are part of the Allison family
and the Hugheytown Gang. He was the racer that got
into a fight at the conclusion of the first Daytona
five hundred that was ever televised from start to finish.
Nice little treat to my day. Thank you, guys, keep
(02:54):
up the great work. That was positive email. Gary is upset.
Did you know who you were talking to? Eddie Allison,
the older brother of the famous Allison Brothers of Nascar.
You didn't give him much time.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Look, I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
All I get is a first name and a state,
and so I appreciate him calling. He's welcome to call
back anytime. I loved the call. Eighty nine years old
said he listens to the show while he's out in
his backyard on his swing. That sounds amazing to me,
and we appreciate him calling. We appreciate all of you
who are listening all over the place. Dean is upset
(03:31):
with me because I said that I've got friends and
I don't talk about politics with Dean from South Florida
says he can't be friends with anybody whoever voted for
a Democrat. Ff.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't have any liberal friends. They're just not ethical.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
They're not moral.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would never be friends with anybody that voted for
har or Sir Biden. These guys are low life scumbags.
And if you vote for Trump, I can be friends
with you. I can never be friends with anybody that
votes for a Democrat. They're just scumbags.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I disagree. I just I understand some people are like
First of all, that's what a lot of left wingers do.
They're the ones that are more likely, I think, to
just cut off relations. Oh you voted for Trump, you
can't come to Thanksgiving anymore. Oh you won't wear a
mask everywhere you go. Good luck coming over for Christmas.
(04:28):
I don't think that's healthy. I really don't. I've got
a ton of friends that frankly disagree with me on
everything politically, and I know those people long before Trump,
and I'm gonna know them long after Trump. So I
just I don't believe in the idea of cutting people
out of your life who have different political opinions than you.
(04:51):
I actually think we need more people who are willing
to be friends with people across the eye. And just
think about this. I think it's hard to demonize Trump
supporters if you like me are an admitted Trump supporter,
and people in your life who may vote on the
(05:12):
left are have to think about you as that Trump supporter,
as opposed to just this amorphous idea they've created of Oh,
the Trump supporters are all dumb, ignorant, stupid, redneck, racist, transphobic, whatever, homophobic,
whatever slurs you want, hitler, hitler, nazi, bootstepping, awful human beings.
(05:36):
I think that you can only believe that if you
don't actually know Trump supporters in your life. And I
got to tell you, there's lots of people who vote Democrat.
Almost every single day I hear from somebody who says,
you know what, Clay, I'm a little bit like you.
Go back and listen to what Bill Clinton said in
nineteen ninety two. It is nothing like with the modern
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demo crap Party believes Bill Clinton nineteen ninety two would
be a Republican right now, Bill Clinton nineteen ninety six Republican.
I'm not saying he's right on every issue, but Donald
Trump used to be a Democrat, and then he saw
the light and started to recognize how crazy everything was going.
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Donald Trump gave money to the Clintons back in the day.
Trump is just saying, and there are a lot of
us out there that are just saying. And we look
around and we say, there's a crazy party and that's
the Democrats. And there's the same party and that's the Republicans.
It's my opinion, but I bet a lot of you
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in your lives, you know, people who are voting Democrat
just because they decided they were on the Democrat team
when they were sixteen years old, and they may be
sixty six now, and the Democrat Party of fifty years
ago is nothing like the Democrat Party today. And every
day a few of them see the light, they get
(07:06):
red pilled. And I think one way they do it
is by interacting with normal, rational, reasonable people who they
actually have a moment of thought and think, wait a minute,
play's not crazy. Why is he a Trump guy? And
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they start to work through. Not everybody, but there are
enough people out there that start to think that through.
And that's how Trump win one in twenty twenty four,
That's how he won the popular vote. So I understand
the frustration out there of how do they not see you?
Everything that I see? This is why I read everything.
(07:50):
I am very confident that I could make the arguments
they make in the New York Times as good or
better than they do. But could two. We are aware
of all of their arguments, we're making the ones that
we think are better, which is how we ended up
a Trump supporter. But I don't think you help your
arguments by just running in the corner, covering your ears
(08:12):
and being like, I only want to be surrounded by
people that agree with me on everything, every minute of
every day. To me, that's what Democrats do. That's how
their party has become toxic. That's how it's become such
a shrinking tent. You have to interact with arguments with
which you disagree, to understand why you agree with the
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ones that you do. So look, I love the fact
that Dean is a listener, but I don't understand and
don't think it's helpful to just say what a leftist would.
I'm cutting everybody else off who doesn't agree with me
one hundred percent on everything. I don't think that's healthy.
I would never cut off friends or family personally because
of their politics, and I wouldn't want you to either.
(08:58):
I don't think that's healthy. Moreover, you can't win doing that.
The way you win is by expanding your coalition. There
aren't enough die hard right wingers to get anybody elected
in any competitive state. You have to appeal to reasonable,
rational people out there that might be super busy. They
(09:21):
got real things going on in your life. I got
three boys. Do you know how much time we spend
scheduling getting those boys to all of their events? I
got a ninth grade football game to get to. I
really believe that my son's games. It's almost like they're
pranking us to try to play the games in the
(09:42):
most difficult places to get to at the most difficult
place at times five point thirty kickoff an hour and
a half from my house. We live in a major
American city. There's nowhere they could have gone close. No,
we got to drive all over the place. People are busy.
I appreciate y'all who are listening every single day and
(10:03):
following and being super attentive with the politics of the moment.
You guys are what we should want from an enlightened electorate.
But if only people knew what was going on every
day in the country voted, there wouldn't be very many voters.
Most people are really busy trying to get their kids
to and from sporting events, trying to make sure they're
(10:24):
making enough money to pay off their mortgage. They don't
have time to get enmeshed in every issue. A lot
of people just vote the way they have for a
long time. You gotta be there when suddenly they are
antenna go up and they think for a minute, wait,
this doesn't make very much sense. That doesn't sound like
something that a Democrat would have said in nineteen eighty
eight or nineteen ninety eight. In fact, a lot of
(10:47):
the arguments Trump's making right now, Democrats made them twenty
five thirty years ago. So that's my argument of how
you win politics is the art of persuasion. It's about
communication and making the right decisions. And if you decide
I don't want to communicate with anybody who is persuadable
(11:08):
or willing to listen to you, I think you guarantee
that you're perpetually in the minority. Chris from Tampa GG
what's he got?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Hey, Clay? I love you to death, but since you
brought it up. You always say you trust people more
if they watch football. I trust people less if they
watch football, because one minute they're mad at football, the
next minute they're not mad at football and all the
crap that football's pulled over to years, and sports just
in general for the most part. Well, all this protesting
(11:41):
and crap, I'm not giving my money to the enemy.
Why I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I respect that argument. Here's my argument in the contrary,
Then you just give over everything to left wingers. I
mean I could have just said, you know what, I'm
fed up with what I see from left wing politics.
I'm not gonna make arguments anymore. I'm not gonna found
out kick. I'm not gonna do this show and try
(12:09):
to speak to a larger community. I'm not gonna worry
about sports media at all because they disagree with me.
So I'm gonna go spend my time doing something else.
And by the way, the Titans are so bad that
a part of me is not watching as much NFL
just because my team is the worst in the NFL
and I got other things that I would rather do
than watch my team get their ass kicked. But we're winning.
(12:34):
What you're saying would lead to Ohriley Gaines was swimming
against a dude pretending to be a chick. She should
have just said I'm done with swimming and gone and
spent her time doing something else. Well, what about all
those other little girls out there. You don't win by
abandoning the battlefield. You might feel better, but to me,
(12:57):
you're like the kid who takes his ball in goes
home when he's getting his ass kicked in a game.
I'm gonna put on the gloves and I'm gonna throw
punches because I think I'm better at it than the
other side. But if I just leve them and leave
him alone in the ring, he's gonna raise his arms
above the sky and name himself the champion, and he's
(13:17):
going to destroy In my opinion, American culture, you win
by fighting. You don't win by abandoning the battlefield and saying, well,
they're mean, I don't agree with some of this stuff.
I'm out lace them up, put in your mouthguard, and
start throwing haymakers. That's what I do every day, and
(13:39):
I think we've won because we have better arguments. But
that requires that you not abandon the battlefield. And so
I think the battlefield of culture is what ultimately decides
elections in this country. In sports is maybe the foremost
battlefield and the reason why I trust sports fans is
because ultimately they're everybody believes in the scoreboard, and the
(14:04):
scoreboard right now is Republicans are scoring points and making
sense and Democrats are not. And if you keep putting
points up on your side of the scoreboard, eventually the
culture changes and Donald Trump wins a popular vote victory,
and hopefully we can string several of those together. That's
my thought process, and trust me, I spend a lot
(14:26):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're still awaiting the
press conference with Israel, Vinjaminette, Yahoo, and President Trump. Jennifer Hh,
she's with the other guy. Can't be friends with anybody
who voted Kamala.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Listen, hello, I'm absolutely with that guy. I cannot be
friends with anybody who voted for Kamala, Harris Ever or
Beck Biden.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
No way.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So how do you win? I understand that you're sitting
around and you're like, I'm gonna cut you out, which
is actually a very left wing thing to do. Left
wingers are far more likely to say, you can't come
to Thanksgiving, you can't come to Christmas, I'm cutting off
all family relations. I don't think that's healthy. But how
do you win? Politics requires that you persuade people who
(17:03):
didn't maybe support you before into supporting you in the future.
So if your goal is just to feel better about
yourself and feel like you're ideologically pure, then more power
to you. I guess psychologically that might be satisfying, But
my goal is to win. I'm not just trying to
(17:26):
feel better about myself. I'm trying to win a competitive endeavor.
And in order to win a competitive endeavor, you have
to convince people that you're right. And the only way
you can convince people that you're right is by talking
to people who disagree with you, because otherwise you can't
win an election. So what is the goal. Is it
to be ideologically pure and to be just feel better
(17:48):
about yourself or is it to win? My goal is
to win, and in order to win, you got to
persuade people that you're right. That's the entire basis of
the political process we're going to try to win with.
By the way, press conference is starting right now. We
will go to it live when we come back. President
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(18:56):
We're about to go to the White House where President
Trump is speaking a lot alongside of Benjamin net Yahoo
twenty part piece plan for the Middle East. When we
jump in here, it's probably going to be complicated, like
jumping into the deep end of the pool. So I'm
going to be listening along with you. We may pull
out just because it's going to be so complicated and
(19:17):
we're jumping in right in the middle. Let me give
you one thing in response to some of those callers
saying like, hey, I don't want to interact with anybody
who voted the other way. I don't think you can
win that way. Also got a story quickly here as
we get ready for Trump. You know what my grandparents
did when they retired. Grandfather worked in a factory. His
whole life. Grandmother was a school teacher in Georgia. Grandfather
(19:41):
was a factory worker in the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. They
went to work ministering to prisoners who hadn't found Jesus yet.
They set in their homes and wrote letters constantly to prisoners,
people who were in prison and often for doing very
awful things, to try to convince them to find Jesus
(20:05):
in their life. Reason why I bring it up? If
you are religious, would you ever say I only want
to interact with Christians. If you truly believe that the
goal of a religion is to save people from eternal damnation,
wouldn't you want to focus on trying to save people
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like my grandparents did. In order to convert, you have
to go to the unconverted. It's easy to preach to
the choir. It might make you feel better to never
be challenged. But real calling is convincing people of something
they have not yet realized. In my opinion, that's the
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entire purpose of Christianity, because otherwise Christianity would have ended
very quickly. If you said, oh, I'm only going to
talk to other people who are Christians, then it would
never spread. It would have never turned into the life
changing and cultural enrichment that it became. Just think about that.
I understand that politics and religion are somewhat different, but
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just think about that in your own life. If I'm
only talking to people who agree with me all the time,
how can you change the world, how can you make
it better? And what would have happened to Christianity if
early Christians had said that I'm only going to talk
to people who are already Christians. I don't have time
for anybody else. It might make you feel better internally,
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but it's not changing the world. Trust me. Okay, let's
go live right now to what we hope could change
the world, which is peace in the Middle East. Trump
is trying to help make it happen. Benjamin A. And
Yahoo they're with him. This is White House right now live.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
The leaders of the Arab world and Israel and everybody
involved ask me to do this so it would be
headed by them known as President Donald J.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Trump of the United States.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
It's what I want is some extra work to do,
but it's so important that I'm willing to do it.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
And we'll do it right.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
And we're going to put leaders from other countries on
and leaders that are very distinguished leaders, and we'll have
a board and one of the people that wants to
be on the board is the UK former Prime Minister
Tony Blair, good Man, very good man, and some others,
and they'll be named over the next few days and
it'll be quite the board working. Everybody wants to be
(22:36):
on it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
I don't know if that had anything to do. They
name me and everybody else wanted to be on it.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I guess they figure, well, he's a soft touch, he'll
be easy to deal.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
With, working with the World Bank and others.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It'll be responsible for recruiting and training a new government
that will be made up of Palestinians along with highly
qualified experts from all around the world. Hamas and other
terrorist factions will play no role in the board, but
they'll play no role in the governance of Gaza at all,
(23:11):
directly or indirectly. As you know, thousands of Hamas leaders
have been killed and soldiers have been killed, and we
can never forget October seventh, but thousands have paid the
price for that, and now it's time to get our
hostages back and get back to trying to.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Build something that's really great and very important.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
In our meeting today Prime Minister Netya, who is very
clear about his opposition to a Palestinian state, and he
continuously mentions October seventh, and I understand that most people do,
and I understand and respect his position on many things.
But what he's doing today is so good for Israel.
(23:58):
And I noticed that they have large crowds gathering in
Israel all the time, and they have my name up.
They like me for whatever reason. Maybe I don't know,
but they do like me. But they say two things.
Please get the hostages back and please end the war.
They've had it. So I think it's a very popular
thing you do.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Because he's a warrior. He doesn't know about getting back to.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
A normal way of life, but he is a warrior
and Israel is lucky to have him. But now the
people want to get back to peace. They want to
get back to normalization in a true sense. Several countries
have foolish you recognized the Palestinian state. As you know,
some European friends, allies, good people, but they're really, I think,
(24:47):
doing that because they're very tired of what's going on.
For so many decades. They've been presidents and Prime ministers
for years and during this time having to do with
the Middle East, all they're doing is talking about the
same thing over over. They want to see it get back,
and nobody wants that more than me or I believe
Bib two. But the people of Israel want it, they
(25:08):
really want it. They want the hostages back. That includes
the probably thirty two bodies that we're talking about, twenty
people that are living, thirty two or so people that
are dead. And they want to have peace. So let
us not forget how we got here. Hamas was elected
by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they
(25:32):
would live in peace.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Remember that long time ago. They withdrew.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
They said, you take it, this is our contribution to peace.
But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It
was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let
them have it. And I never forgot that because I said,
that doesn't sound like a good deal to me as
a real estate person. I mean, they gave up the ocean, right,
(25:59):
ron gave up the ocean.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
They said, who would do this deal? And it still
didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They were very generous, actually, and they gave up the
most magnificent piece of land in many ways in the
Middle East, and they said, all we want to do
now is that peace, and that request was not honored.
Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, and
Moss diverted resources to build over four hundred miles of
tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their
(26:29):
military command posts and launch sites in hospital, schools and mosques.
So if you want after them, you'd be after them
and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out
a hospital or school or a mosque.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That terrible thing, terrible, terrible way to have to fight.
No fighter is good, but that's a real bad one.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace, many,
many of many.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
I've seen so many of them, and they have And.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny,
because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility
for their destiny. Fully condemned and prohibit terrorism and earn
their way to a brighter future. They don't want the
life that they've had. They've had a rough life within us.
(27:22):
If the Palestinian authority does not complete the reforms that
I laid out and my vision for peace in twenty twenty,
they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an
amazing footprint, and they have amazing support from the leaders
of the Arab world and the Muslim world. The great leaders,
These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders that have
built great countries and very wealthy countries. What the future
(27:45):
holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows. But the
plan that we put forward today is focused on ending
the war immediately, getting all of our hostages back, getting
everything back, hard to believe when you even say it,
and creating conditions the durable Israeli security in Palestinian success.
(28:08):
Israeli security is going to be involved.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
We're going to help you. We'll be there with you
in terms of helping with security. We want to make
sure it works. We just want to make sure it works.
They shouldn't be a shot fired.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Now there will be, I guess, because that's the way
it seems to be, but they shouldn't have to be
within a few days. They shouldn't have to be a
shot fired. And maybe for eternity, wouldn't that be nice?
I hope it's true. I can tell you the leadership
of that region feels that there's a good chance of
it being true. So this will lead to a disagreement
(28:43):
that we're talking about, will lead to a sustainable, long
term piece. No president in history has been a greater
friend of the State of Israel than I have. In
addition to negotiating the Obra Home Accords. I like to
say it that way because the real people that's what
they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but it's so
(29:05):
much nicer when you say Abraham.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, that is vintage Trump. Let's pull here, We're
gonna go to a break. Biggest takeaway here is that
Trump is putting the onus on Hamas. He said quote
if accepted by Hamas, this proposal calls for the release
of all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case more
(29:28):
than seventy two hours. The hostages are coming back. But
if they do not agree to this, he is saying, basically,
you're gonna have to deal with net and Yahoo, essentially
Hamas and the people of Gaza. This is my last
best offer, and it's time to accept it. We'll continue
(29:51):
to monitor, We'll grab you a couple of clips as
we are going to break here. This is all happening
in real time. Trump trying as many presents c it's
before him have and frankly, as every president before him
so far has failed to create a form of lasting
peace in the Middle East. Is a twenty part piece
plan that the White House has released, that is he
(30:16):
is discussing right now. Very complicated, but we certainly will
be talking about it a lot, probably starting tomorrow throughout
the course of the week as we wait to see
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Speaker 1 (31:43):
Welcome Back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, President Trump
right now addressing the situation in Hamas in Gaza as
a result of Hamas's actions, and the key takeaway I
would say right now, and I'm sure we're going to
be talking about this a lot tomorrow is Israel has
(32:03):
agreed to the twenty point piece plan put in place
by Trump and his administration. So far Hamas has not.
And that is the that is the status of where
we are. So I always think, how can I sum
up a situation as succinctly as possible, because the world
(32:27):
is complicated and it's very hard. Sometimes Trump has said,
if Hamas rejects the deal, Israel has my full backing
to destroy Hamas. This is interesting because ultimately, even if
(32:47):
you're not engaged in the Middle East, here's an easy
concept to consider. If Israel put down its weapons, Israel
would not exist within a week. If all of Israel's
adversaries put down their weapons, there would be peace in
the Middle East. Very simple. If you're wondering who is
(33:07):
the aggressor here, who is the bad guy? Hamas is
the bad guy.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
There are lots of people, I think who live in
the Palestinian era, who live in Gaza, that are fantastic
people that just want to raise that live in peace
and want to raise their families and have prosperity. Unfortunately,
Hamas is not allowing that to happen, and I feel fortunate.
(33:33):
About ten months ago, we took a long trip to Israel.
It was eye opening, it was educational, it was enriching,
and I came back more convinced than ever before that
we have to ensure that we do everything we can
to bring peace to the Middle East because if we
(33:54):
do not, eventually we reap that whirlwind of conflict even here.
That's my opinion. Some of you disagree, by the way,
a lot of people agree. A lot of people disagreeing
every single day. That's healthy. That's what a good radio
program should be doing. Buck Sexton, by the way, in
Taiwan this week, so you got me solo. Buck is
on a fact finding mission to Taiwan. I bet he
(34:16):
will come back with some very interesting perspectives on what
may be the biggest flash point in all of Asia.
What is China going to do about Taiwan? That is
where Buck is right now, Scott. A lot of emails
rolling in. Let me read a couple of them. Scott says,
great topic. The biggest problems I see today with the
left is cancel culture. They went so far as to
(34:37):
cancel Charlie Kirk in the most extreme way, and he
wasn't about cancel culture. Let's be different, keep open the
channels of communication. There was a time in our country's
history and I believe the founding fathers thought the same thing.
Men of good conscience can disagree. How about Tip O'Neil
and Ronald Reagan. Let's keep the windows doors of communications open.
(34:58):
Let's be the new Fathers. And here is an email
from Horace. I said, look, the left is the one
that is canceling you. I don't think you win. I
used the example of my grandparents. They retired. They spent
the rest of their life in retirement trying to convince
people who were behind bars in prison that they should
(35:21):
find Jesus. My grandfather learned how to type. Former football
player at the University of Tennessee, used to complain all
the time that he'd never be able to type because
his fingers were too big for the typing type of board.
My grandmother got him to learn how to type so
that he could reach out to prisoners behind bars and
try to convince them that they should find Jesus. There
(35:44):
are very few people out there who are more condemned,
who are dealing with more condemnation roaring down upon them,
than people behind bars for violent crimes. That's who my
grandparents decided they were going to speak to. Listen to
this email from Horace. Just think about it. This is
Horace Clay. I really agree with you about being friends
with people who disagree with you. I'm a black Catholic
(36:06):
conservative Republican. People who I thought were my friends, who
I enjoyed being with, actually cut me loose as a
friend once they discovered I was a Republican. I've been
shunned by other black people who stopped associating with me
and inviting me to get together. It's not been a choice,
necessarily that most of my friends about Trump. My liberal
(36:26):
friends no longer want anything to do with me. Three
of my four sisters are liberal, but we still have
a great rapport with one another. The one who's a
Trump supporter supports me too. We have a great rapport
as well. I haven't cut off my liberal friends, they've
distanced themselves from me. Love your show, Keep on keeping on, God,
bless God, bless all of you. Will be back tomorrow.
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