July 9, 2025 • 49 mins
📍 From Epstein, the JFK assassination, COVID, the CIA, to social media manipulation, David Rutherford pulls back the curtain on the psyop industrial complex. With firsthand experience in special operations and intelligence, Rut delivers a no-holds-barred breakdown of the psychological warfare shaping our reality.
He covers:
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The truth behind the William Casey quote
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The origins of the term “conspiracy theory”
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Epstein, COVID, George Floyd, 9/11, and more
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CIA programs like MKUltra, Operation Mockingbird, and Chaos
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The rise of modern AI-driven information warfare
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How to combat propaganda and rediscover truth
This episode isn’t just a rant—it’s a wake-up call.
If you're overwhelmed by the lies, the noise, the fear… this one’s for you.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - The World’s Biggest Psyops
16:15 - The History of Psyops
19:26 - Russian Psyops
21:38 - Joseph Goebbels
23:08 - Mike Benz’s Work
25:16 - US Covert Ops
33:02 - The Role of NGO’s & Corporations
34:37 - Not Everything Is A Psyop
39:21 - How To Navigate A World of Lies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you believe that everything is a lie? Do you
believe that you're under a constant attack from every type
of psychological operation there is? Join me as I help
you to navigate all of these psyops. This is the
David Rutherford Show. We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete
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when everything the American public believes is false. This quote
is attributed to William J. Casey, who is the CIA
director from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty seven under
President Ronald Reagan. It is noted that the authenticity of
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it has been a little bit debated. In the original
source was Barbara Haneger, who claims she was at a
meeting when he said this. However, whether it's true or false,
there is a an assumption that pretty much everything that
we are witnessing on the internet, in the news cycle,
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through our government, through foreign governments, through our the NGOs,
through everything is a sye op.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
In fact, my best friend Sean Ryan was on with
Tucker Carlson recently and had the courage to literally say
everything is a lie. Now, this is incredibly difficult for
some people to hear. But if you're like me and
you are struggling to process the magnitude of information that's
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coming at us at speeds the likes of with human
beings have never ever experienced before in human history. You
probably have this feeling too, and it's a tough feeling
to have, because you know, when the framework of how
you believe in something, whether it's through our institutions, our
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health institutions, are our intelligence institutions, our police forces, our
community institutions, our business institutions, when we start to believe,
when the public starts to believe that they're not getting
the truth in any way, shape or form, what does
that do well? It jolts the very fabric you're, the
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very fabric of your subjective perception of reality. Now, why
have we gotten to this place?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Jordi and I have these conversations more than you could
possibly fath them. In fact, right before we were getting on,
we were talking about a couple other of the psyops
that have taken place, and we've been going down these
rabbit holes. Will hopefully do a show on these in
the future, but right now we're trying to investigate them
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to a place where we feel comfortable that we can
deliver them. But you know, I mean, I think you
are well aware of this because you're feeling it, you're
seeing it. These are not ideas, right. The very idea
of a conspiracy theory, we know, was a term that
was invented by whom, JORDI don't know, the Central Intelligence Agency.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Why is that always the answer?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And they invented it as a result of people questioning
the narrative about the JFK, about President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
Hell I just saw Tim Blanchard on a video. He
was in a briefing from the medical doctor who saw
Kennedy in Houston and Stead. There were four bullet entries
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into the president, which leads to believe it could have
been two to three different shooters. All right, So all right,
that's the mother of all conspiracy theories, right, the mother
of all psyops that has been run against the American
public for a long period of time. Now today's show,
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what I'm going to attempt to do is look at
this a little, you know, objectively if I can. Obviously,
with my background working in special operations and also working
for private military industrial complex as well as the Central
Intelligence Agency, there is no doubt in my military mind, right, Geordie,
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that we are going to be inundated in comments and
posts that well old Rutts just running another PIO. Right,
So here we go, right, all right, So as I
evaluate what's going on right now, Like one of the
funniest ones is people calling my best friend Sean Rye
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and a syop and that he's actually still working with
the government and he's trying to manipulate the masses to
the tune of his what some thirty plus million downloads
a month, that's all. It's all being pushed by a
sye up. And I can tell you that's categorically bullshit.
All right. I'm a guy who talks to him just
about every week, sometimes every day of the week, and
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that's just not the case, I'm telling you, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
The other aspect is, you know, the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean, we even had Elon Musk perpetuate another you know,
conspiracy theory that Trump's in the Epstein files, to which,
of course Dan bo Gino and Cash Betel and others
have JD Vance have categorically said that's not true, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But it's not just the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
We understand now in depth so much information about Epstein
and his relationships with various people across various different organizations
and funding and background and all seems to be peculiar
about how this guy comes out of nowhere and is
able to do what he's doing. And you know, for me,
the biggest one was when the Attorney General in Florida
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or one of the deputies during that time, was investigating
case and afterwards made in a news article, Well, I
was told I can't touch him. He's part of intelligence, right,
you know, so you've got that which is exploding and
just hanging on the consciousness of all of us every day, right,
because why the hell would you protect anybody that's that's
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you know, destroying young women or destroying young kids in
any way, shape or form, and all these malicious stories
that have come out, and certainly with when Virginia du
Free commits suicide about a month ago or whatever, you know, again,
that just provokes the idea that everything's a sigh of
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I think the one that really, you know, kind of
woke everybody up.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I know, Jordi, you and I've talked about this
was COVID, right.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was the messaging right when every single TV station
news station around the country is parrotying the same dialogue. Right, Oh,
it started in a wet market, It started with the bat,
it started with this and you know, meanwhile, right about
the same time it's releasing, there's a war game for
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pandemics taking place called Vent two zero one.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
That as the deputy director of the CIA.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The head of international news organizations and businesses all meeting
around around talk now, what do we do? How do
we control the narrative during a pandemic? Right? And oh shit,
a few months later, we're facing a pandemic which very
quickly we came to realize was only going after people
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that had all different types of pre existing conditions. It's
attacking the old people. You know, it's got a death
rate of point one something, you know, very low. Nobody's dying.
But yet next thing we know, we're standing six feet apart.
We're getting I'm getting screamed at at soccer games for
not wearing a mask outside, right, almost getting into fights
(08:18):
with people everywhere I go. And I'm in Florida. I
couldn't imagine what I'd be like if I lived.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
In Illinois or New York or some one of these
other crazy places. Right, Well, the experts agree, that's right.
The experts listen to the experts, Well all of them agree.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, that's right, and that's what we were just talking about. George,
comment on that a little bit what you just said there.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I said that, you know, if seventy percent of
experts agree and thirty percent disagree, there's probably potentially something
there to the truth. But if all of the experts
and something agree on one side of a narrative, that's
a red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And who and who got hammered?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Right, you got Batachari, who's one of the world's leading scientists.
They canceled him. Doctor Robert Malone that we had, they
canceled him. I mean, you were literally shut down and
your life was attemptedly destroyed. And because God blessed Mike
Bens because of the work he's done to you know,
really dig in as well as you know, when we
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got the Twitter fires, Michael Schallenberg, Matt tayub Berry Wise
and what we found out about the government's own influence
on these social media companies, you know, basically telling them,
you know, I mean, what's his name, Old Old runs
metas Old Zuck himself was on with Joe Rogan and
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said they basically threatened our entire existence. You know, with
section two thirty. If if we didn't go along with
the narrative, YouTube still banning people for right anti vaccine whatever.
You know, So you have the COVID narrative that then
led into what the mRNA shots, where you have the
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people who are familiar saying this is a gene editing secrets. No, no, no,
these people are conspiracies, theories, blah blah blah, not happening. Meanwhile,
all the experts come out and now we have forced vaccination,
which is against Geneva conventions, and we have forced the news.
You could argue the whole George Floyd thing was a
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massive psyop. Right now, whether or not you want to
get into an argument about the persecution of inner city minorities,
in particular African Americans and how they've been treated over
the years, there is no doubt in my mind that
in certain areas and country, certain cities, the abuse of
power against these people has been catastrophic. But when you
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look at the FBI crime statistics from twenty nineteen and
you see what is at only eighteen on our black
men were.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Killed by police officers.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
In fact, more unarmed white men were killed by police
officers in that time. You know, it kind of dispels
the idea when you go when they were in the streets,
how many black men do you think are killed every year?
And some people would be like five thousand, ten, twenty thousand. Well,
where does that come from? Where does that information come from?
Who's proselytizing that non statistical, nonfactual information that shifts the
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narrative in the psychology of a particular group of groups
of people?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right? Who led that?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And now we've seen the autopsy reports on George Floyd.
He had enough fentanyl in him to kill a horse, right,
And the guy was an existing criminal, right He had
gone to jail before by holding a gun at a
pregnant woman's belly while his associates ransacked her house, and
he did time for that. So this criminal who's essentially
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odin on on fetanohl is now a hero against this
cop who was integrating a tactic that was actually taught
in his police training. Right Now, how did that narrative
get built? How did we get to a point where
we had hundreds of thousands of people in the streets
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burning places down? And who paid for a lot of
those right? Who paid for those riots, who funded those riots,
who bought tickets for those riots. Now, I know what
you're gonna say. You're gonna say, if you're not on
a conservative or right or left whatever, you're going to say, well, rot,
you know what about all the lies on the other side.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm with you, man.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The war in Iraq, if that was in the syop,
then what the hell was I mean, they paraded, you know,
these top people out in front of the world and said, yeah, absolutely,
you know, Saddam Hussein developing nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction,
going to do all this. I had buddies that were
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on the original group that was sent out there to
look for these things without the agency, and some of
the stories I heard don't kind of match that narrative.
And now we've had people openly admit that that narrative
was coerced and concocted not by the left, but by
the right, by the Bush administration, by Secretary Rice, by
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a colon. Powell got in front of the entire world
and said, Yep, he's he's going to do it. There
were even people said, yeah, they're part al Qaeda? Was
that a psyop?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Was that the truth? We can talk about nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I mean there's people out there raising all kinds of
things about nine to eleven right now. And if you
don't explain Building seven to me, whether or worse, explain
to me the documents that we have now, who was
funding and who was monitoring some of these pilots while
they lived out in California and Florida. I mean, they
were on everybody's radar. They knew what was going on.
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The Saudis were running a couple of them as assets.
Were they communicating with our Central Intelligence Agency? We certainly
know that the agency funded the Mouhajaeden funded Bin Lodden
back in the eighties against the war in Russia. Right,
Or how about let's go even deeper, how about Iran Contra,
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how about Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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operations have been a part of human history since the
dawn of civilizations. They date all the way back to
Egypt in ancient Samaria, I mean the Romans for sure
running syops and the church on all aspects. Every every
religion runs particular types of PsiOps. If you with the
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printing press, the printing press changed the whole game, right,
And I'll talk about the Internet and where we're at
now in the future AI here in a bit. But
you know, when you start to really evaluate kind of
you know, the history of all this, it's it's really profound.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And you know some of the you know, the.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Earliest propaganda that I think is relevant in the modern
eras you know, started by the British Empire, right, And
you know when you look at the British government established
the War Propaganda Bureau in nineteen fourteen, market marking one
of the earliest organized efforts in psychological warfare. This bureau
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centralized the production and distribution of propaganda materials, including leaflets pamphlets,
aimed at influencing public opinion both domestically and enemy territories.
By nineteen eighteen, the British Foreign Officer appointed the Viscount
Northcliffe as the Director of Propaganda and Enemy Countries, overseeing
targeting Austria, Hungary and Germany. Right, I don't think you're naive.
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In fact, I know you're not. I know you're smart,
and I know you know you've heard these things in
various ways probably throughout your whole life, whether you've watched
some kind of JFK movie by Oliver Stone, or you're
all over the internet now and you're gravitating towards these people,
or who've accessed these documents. I mean, look at Julian
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Esange himself. I mean, we have the WikiLeaks documents that
basically proved a lot of the stuff that was going
on on both sides of the Isle in America. And
in January nineteen eighteen, the US War Department established the
Psychological sub Section, later renamed the Propaganda Section, under Military
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Intelligence Division am I two. Captain Captain Herbert Blankenhorn, a
civilian journalist, was appointed to lead this unit. The mission
of the Psychological Subsection was to organize and implement psychological
strategies to influence enemy morale and support US military objectives.
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Between August and November nineteen eighteen, the Propaganda Section approx
produced approximately five point one million leaflets in eighteen different designs.
These leaflets were disseminated primarily through aerial drops hydrogen balloons.
The content aimed to demoralize German troops and encourage surrender. Surrender,
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interrogations of German prisoners of war and post war analysis
indicate that these efforts contributed to the erosion of enemy
morale in the final months.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Of the war. Now, hold, you're you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Not trying to say all America is bad, because man,
I love America more than any anything that's out there. Right,
There's no other place that I would ever want to live.
There's no other country I would ever want to serve.
I serve my country. I lost friends to this. Trust me.
I'm all in on America. I'm all in on this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm all in on anything that's going to make America
great too.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Right. But however, this is a reality of how things
are done. If you don't believe that, you're naive. Now,
this is also a reality in every other place as well, too, Right.
You know, I just want to talk a little bit
about let's talk about the Russian Revolution, right, which was
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immeasurably a component of propaganda. You had led by preminent Bolsheviks,
Vladimir Lenin. Right, you have using newspapers like Pravda co
edited by Joseph Stalin, Vashank Loaf Maltov, amongst others. You
had Leon Trotsky who was trained in propaganda. Right, they
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all played a major role which led to this civil war.
You know, and they established the Glevitt, the Glavelet, the
main administration for literary and publishing affairs, and in nineteen
twenty two to oversee censorship in propaganda. Now we know,
undoubtedly through people like Alexander Sultzanitza and the Glulag Archipelagos,
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that Stalin took this to a whole other level where
his whole thing behind communism was to get you know,
everybody online. And what happened is that you would move
up the chain of society up into the elevated levels,
you know. And what happened ultimately got to a place
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where children would lie to move up to get extra
food or power whatever, and tell yeah, my parents are
part of the bourgeois right. They're oppressed, they're against the regime.
And what do we know. As a result of this
type of propaganda influence, Somewhere between forty and sixty five
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million human beings were annihilated as a result of it. Annihilated.
They were not in prison, they were annihilated. They were
starved to death. They were incarcerated. I mean, I mean
he wiped out massive amounts of professors in their universities,
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He wiped out politicians, He wiped out war heroes from
World War Two when they got back in the Third Purge, right,
so we know, you know these tyrannical regimes were they
did it. And we can always talk about Joseph Goebels, right,
I mean, this guy took propaganda to a whole other level.
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I mean with his movies, in his the rhetoric, and
how he would make these insane promotional videos of Hitler
and his speeches, and they the flags and the pomp
and circumstance and the dog and ponies, and you know,
those insane you know, everybody see Kile And I mean
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that was powerful stuff for the German people. And then
whatever information that was coming out of the West calling
out his atrocities and his insanity, you know, they would
take it, flip it and use it for the German people, right.
And you know, you combined just those two governments alone
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and what they're capable of, and you've got the atrocity
of World War Two, which is you know, some say
seventy five eighty million people, but how many people were
incinerated where there was no more You couldn't find any
of them? Are there are no records or I mean
it could be even more than we could possibly fathm.
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So this is something that is very much a part
of of who we are and what we are. You know,
one of the guys that I keep referencing a lot
that's exposing this kind of censorship industrial complex or the
the heart of of of kind of modern propaganda and
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psyops is Mike bents and I and I really, I
really have a tremendous amount of respect for the the
the information that he's put in out and you can
you can follow me. He's been on He's been on Tucker,
He's been on Joe Rogan, he's been on Sean's show.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
He has his own stream all day.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know. One of the most recent ones, my favorite
was you know he uh Bono was on Joe Rogan
and basically made the claim that three hundred thousand children
are dead as a result of canceling the fund funding
or shutting down us A I D, which he has
also exposed as one of the primary components of fulfilling
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colored revolutions over the last twenty five years around the world,
I mean usa ID was responsible for funny. Nine out
of ten newspapers and journals or periodicals in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Over the last five years.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
So he says three hundred thousand based on this study
that was done from one person up in the Boston area.
And immediately Mike Ben's uncovers that, you know, he did
this concert back in the day Live Aid, which you know,
I remember that whole thing. I was a firm supporter.
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Let's feed the start, even kids in Africa. I mean
I loved it. I loved the music. I love his music.
I love you two his music. But Mike Ben's came
out that during that they raised one hundred million dollars
and there's an article and you can find it under
his his work. He did that basically says only five
million dollars of that money raise went to feed children,
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and ninety five million went to to give guns to
the rebels in these areas that were trying waging these
civil wars that affected and ultimately butchered and maimed and
killed all these innocent women and children, now elderly people.
So you know, when you start to think about that,
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it's intense. Well, here's the one and this came out
in nineteen forty eight. The National Security Council Directive NSC
ten Slash two was a foundational document, and it was
acted on June eighteenth, nineteen forty eight, and it established
the framework for US covert operations, including the use of
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plausible deniability right. And it defined covert operations as activities
conducted or quote conducted or sponsored by this government against
hostile foreign states or groups in support or of friendly
foreign states or groups, but which are so plan and
execute that any US government responsibility for them is not
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evident to unauthorized persons, and that if uncovered, the US government, Right,
here's a kicker, can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Now,
I can tell you plausible deniability is an accurate claim.
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And you know what, it's been very useful. I'm not
gonna say that it's not a useful tool for us
to kentuck legitimate operations around the world to protect our homeland,
to protect our people, to protect our interests. I would
be insane of me to say that that's not valuable
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to US as a nation. It's critical that we have
these capabilities. But like any tool being used to power
around the world, what happens when the wrong people get
a part of that tool. Now, what I found really interesting.
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You know, in the architect of this whole thing was
a guy named George F. Keenan, and he was the
director of the Policy Planning staff at the State Department.
And what you have to understand is that back then
it was it was the War Department, the State Department,
and essentially, you know, internal Revenue Service where the main things.
But you know, you go into a world war and
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everything changes, right, and you have to come up with
all these new ideas and plans on how to assess
major threats to our existence around the world. And what
I found kind of interesting was right around that same time,
the smith mont Act was established in nineteen forty eight.
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The United States Information and Education Exchange Act of nineteen
forty eight, commonly known as the Smith Monk Act, was
an acted to promote US public diplomacy and information programs abroad,
such as those run by the State Department and Voice
of America. A key provision prohibited the dissemination of information
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produced for foreign audiences within the United States. And essentially
what this was was designed to restrict the ability for
the US government to use propaganda against its own people,
you know. And there is also the National Security Act
of nineteen forty seven and This Act established as a
framework for the US intelligence and national security operations, including
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the creation of the CIA National Security Council, But it
drew a bright line between the foreign and domestic intelligence
activities to protect civil liberties. Right now, they recognize that,
you know, hey, we have to protect ourselves against this
now Unford. Fortunately, again, as any tools are used in
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that plausible dying deniability, you know, really kind of began
to shift over time, and you know, within the nineteen
fifties and sixties, the you know, the famous ones that
have come out, obviously, one being Operation Chaos, which is
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where the CIA initiated programs in conjunction with the FBI
and other intelligence operations uh TO aimed at moditoring and
infiltrating anti war organizations during the Vietnam War. So they
basically said, hey, listen, if you're a threat to our
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foreign policy, we're gonna put eyes on you, and we're
going to disrupt you, and we're going to influence you
to do acts that then can take other people down. Right,
It's it's covert op like we do overseas. Right, we
infiltrate these foreign terrorist organizations or governments, and we we
collect assets, We bring them on to payroll, We influence them,
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we manipulate them, and they give us information and then
we we do all kinds of covert uh military and
and and paramilitary and intelligence uh, covert actions. And but
you know in these they were they were run against
the American people. You know, this involved the surveillance of
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over seven thousand Americans and the infiltration of various groups,
including the Black Panther Party, UH, the studies for the
Democratic Society, you know, which were all kind of brought
out in the Church Committee hearings in the nineteen seventies
because we and then we found out about coin Cointel Pro,
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which was an FBI led series of covert and often
illegal activities armed at surveyors infiltrating, discrediting, disrupting domestic political
organizations deemed as subversive subversives. Then we had Operation mocking
Bird right where that's where the alleged program the CIA
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began in the late nineteen forties, which continued through the
nineteen seventies, aimed at influencing domestic and foreign media. The
CIA reportedly recruited journalists from major news outlets to disseminate propaganda,
suppress information unfavorable to us interesants. The program was exposed
in the nineteen seventies by the Church Committee. Now, you know,
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you can also get into mk Ultro, which is the
one everybody wants to talk about, is the ultimate siop
where you can actually program individuals to go do your
dastardly deeds. You know, they targeted Heighte Ashbury in the
late sixties, They've targeted other people and you know, and
there's information and documents that have come out that prove
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this all existed. The scia of UFOs is the many
people believe that that's been a syop from the beginning.
Now it's reaching you know, cataclysmic proportions where everybody and
the brother is talking about this internal program. We know
people are here this the skin walkers, the reptilians, right,
there's four different you know, people living in the center
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of the world.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Is that a syop? Or isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's certainly going to destabilize people and make people afraid.
It's going to question, it's going to induce fear, and
that's a problem. Fear is what they're after, and fear
is the thing that enables, that really prevents and provokes
people to get into this, and so once that fear
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is initiated in you, then things change, you know, And
what was happening the Church Committee, all this came out.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The whole public was fear. They shut it down.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Carter all these operations within the Agency Intel, FBI. Uh.
Then he went out of office, right, Reagan came in
lit the switch back on. Now, if you were to
imagine that those organizations are not conducting any of these
it's just simply not true.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We know it's not true.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Now the question becomes to what degree. What we do
know is that none of these acts or provisions or
laws that prevent right, along with other executive orders and
the ability of the executive the DOJ that prevent all
this stuff. You know, what is not question and is
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not tackled are outside industries, right, is the NGOs of
the world, Right, the different industries and what they tell us.
The food industries, Oh no, that's perfectly safety. The pharmaceutical
companies which have been indicted and essentially had to pay
(34:00):
the most dramatic finds in human history, but yet for
some reason, they still have plausible deniability. They've got these
immunity issues, these liability clauses like the mRNA vaccine.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
How come why do we do that? Right? Why do
we give people blanket pardons? Hey?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Why does the Biden family get pardoned? Why does Fauci
get pardoned? Why do eight thousand people get parted? And
that's that's on both sides. I mean, both sides have
a substantial way of parting people. Why are we doing that?
Why do we protect that? What's going on? Now, here's
what I'm going to tell you. Everything is definitely not
a syop. Right, I'm one hundred percent telling you quantifiably
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we give a lot more credit to these organizations than
they deserve. And it's not to say there are most
some of the most talented people on the planet. Man.
I worked with some people at where I worked in
particular ular the direct few direct hires that I worked
with were phenomenal. I mean, these guys and these women
that I worked with were incredible patriots, incredibly dedicated. One
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of my closest friends out there is still doing it
and he is barna on one of the most people
that has the highest integrity of people I've ever met
in my life. Same in DD and special operations. Right,
So not everything is a psyop. It makes it easier
for us to question, and but it does. What it
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does is it provokes a deeper sense of critical thinking.
And that's what I need you to do. I need
you to start thinking more critically, not to believe every
single ex post that exists.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I hate to really.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Get in to the understanding of how these things are
taking place.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right. You know, we have been lured in by these.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Mythologies of our past to believe that things are in
these binary choices. Right, everything's either communism, or everything's either fascism,
everything's either capitalism, or everything's either you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Know, totalitarianism. Right. Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
A lot of that is true, and there are definitely
nefarious organizations on every side trying to work for their
own political and financial gain just ask my friend Ian
Burlingame for sure. But there's also a significant amount of
people on this planet that are not trying to generate PsiOps,
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that are not out there manipulating for any other reason,
but trying to influence you because they believe something in
their heart. I think that's where this show comes from.
I've been around enough and seen enough to know that,
you know, the best way to try and influence people
is to tell them the truth and how you and
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what you believe ain't And if you get hit with
a hard question, you know, to come up with a
difficult answer within yourself, to scan the complete narrative of
how you look at what the our core values are.
And for me as a Christian, for me as an American,
you know, I'm not going to get lured into that
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that trope. Not going to be manipulated by those ideas
behind communism and fascism and totalitarianism and beyond greed within capitalism.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's just not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I have too much to lose, including my reputation, but
more so the faith of my close friends and my
most importantly my family. That's what matters most, and it
should matter to you as well too, That's what should matter.
Are you out there reposting these things because you like
to get more clicks or you like to stir the pooch?
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Are you you just like to hammer people that you
don't agree on ideologically? Remember, the whole idea of all
of this propaganda, all of these psyops, is to make
you and me hate each other.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Behind this stuff is to get them to make us divided,
to make us against each other on these these other
things over here that are distracting these these other things
instead of paying attention to the bigger things, like you know,
why are why is our our our deficit increasing by
(38:34):
a trillion dollars every three months? Why why are we
conducting proxy wars overseas that could potentially lead to World
War III? Why are we being taxed at such an
insane rate that it's destroying the futures of young people today,
who can't buy a house, who can't pay off their loans,
who can't can't pay for the whatever it is people.
(38:58):
And that's why nobody he's getting married, nobody's having kids,
nobody's doing that. You know, I do understand that there's
a certain group of people that want the breakdown of
our of our society to take place, to move people
away from faith, to break down the family. And yeah,
that's real too, But is it you know, is it
enough to make you stop believing and what you know
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to be the truth?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So, the questions you have to ask yourself is who
is perpetuating the narrative that you're being influenced back? Who specifically,
what person, what's their background, where do they come from,
What are their belief systems? When did they start?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Right? Where do they come from?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Right? What is why are they perpetualing the name? The
other is who's paying for their narrative? Where's the funding
about it? Where's that coming from? And within that narrative,
within that payment system are they hiding it? Are they
affiliated with people with other groups, organizations that they're being
fed by, that are conducting other different psychological operations or
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nefarious activities, you know? And then also what studies, what
research the experts, if you will, what facts are being
used to influence you? We see these little pieces, these
statistics come out, but yet all of a sudden, now
we take that one little thread, that one little thing,
and we slap it down as the ultimate designation of
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our ideology. Why why are you doing that? We need
to get past those superficial designations, those supervicial threads of
our ideology and get back to the root of what
we genuinely believe in and what I believe is the
overwhelming majority of us believe in the same thing. Now,
(40:48):
regardless of what you believe of which side you're on
with Trump and Elon whatever, he ran.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This amazing, this amazing uh.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Poll on his account yesterday and said, do you believe
that America needs a new party? And when I looked
at the last there was one point seven million votes
that had been conducted in over eighty three percent of
those people who voted said yes, we need to break
that down. That's part of this whole idea that we're
(41:17):
being lied to by the two parties that have been
in charge for a very long time. But also it's
a I think it's a condemnation of the experts and
the institutions that now we all feel are in jeopardy.
We don't believe the experts anymore. And there's right, there's
a reason, you know. And then the last part is
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I want you to really think about what is the
intent of the article, the post, the video, or the
story that's being told to you. What's the intent? For me?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
My intent is to get you to think to pull
out of the whole you're in because of the pressures,
the tsunami and information that's being thrust at you, to
get you to back a way, to not engage, to
break contact, because that's what everybody wants you to do.
As long as you're disengaged from these critical things of
(42:12):
your local government, your local communities, you know, your state governments,
to get you to disengage because it's overwhelming to you.
That's the intent. And I even have even started to
talk about AI. I mean there's people out there. When
you listen to these experts, there will come a time
where nothing is distinguishable. You won't be able to tell
(42:34):
between what's rut, what's real, and what's not and what
does the American public demand?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
There? We remember the last time, right? Do you remember?
You remember how you felt after nine to eleven? You
remember how you were whipped into a frenzy to go
after an adjective or a verb called terrorism? What is
Who's terrorism?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Right? And we're able to manip pipulate that concept constantly?
Wait till AI is running the show. Currently, there are
bot farms. I heard someone tell me once that kind
of was in the know. There there's a two million
people in China that are tasked with generating this and
(43:19):
malinformation all the different whatever, controlling these bot farms over
in China, Right, You don't think that's happening over in
Russia and Ukraine, in Africa, uh and Iran, in Israel
and the US government itself. You don't think we're doing
all that as well too. So when AI gets to
(43:39):
a place where it's indistinguishable, what do we do do
we come out and say we want Patriot Act two
point zero Like you heard me in the one I
talked about that we can review, and I talked about
the one big beautiful bill that little provision about No
state can question the federal government's AI implementation or spending.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Why do they do that? Why do they put it
in there?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Because they want control of the narrative, and it's gonna
get tougher and tougher. But here's what you're gonna do. Hey,
this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna learn to
think critically. You're gonna surround yourself with people that are
able not to be too emotional one way or the other.
(44:22):
You're gonna go. You're gonna go fact by fact. You're
gonna unwind that pull that them sucking you into these
ideological ideas, these ideological constructs that have been in play
for thousands of years and different civilizations in one way
or another. We're gonna get back to that fact by fact.
Now I know what you're saying. Rut you're going rut.
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How do I know what's a fact and what's not.
Therein lies the dedication, the commitment to what you believe in.
And if you're a true seeker of the truth, because
as you know, the truth will set you free. If
you're a true believer in that, then you will do
the work. You will do the work not only to
(45:04):
educate yourself, but to educate those you love most, your children,
to teach them the real history of things, to expose
them to people that are unencumbered by a political drive
or an economic influence, but people that are desired to
bring forth what they believe to be the truth and
have done the work. And then the last thing, if
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you have the opportunity to get face to face to somebody,
have a conversation, question them on their facts. I was
at an event a few months ago, and I had
somebody who wanted to sit down with me and call
me out on some of the things that I was
suggesting to be true. And as he would call me
out and make these statements about Trump and about other
(45:50):
things I believed in, you know, he would I would
come back, well, why don't you believe this? And he
would just say, oh, well, he's a crazy person or
he's a liar. And I'd say, well, we will give
me one example of how he lied. Well, he said, oh,
you know, Neo Nazis are very fine people. And I
was like, d that's been debunked, or you know, but
President Obama said it, it's been debunked, or you know,
(46:11):
now we know. You know the whole thing. Joe Biden
is at his best I've ever seen him. That's a psyop. Hey,
that's to maintain political control or power. That's a psiop.
So you get in front of people, make them express themselves.
Don't you keep your cool, keep yourself, don't get crazy
like the other crazies out there, because that's their job
(46:33):
to be crazy. It's their job to make you lose control.
It's their job to make you fracture your foundation and belief.
That's their job is to make that fracture. One of
my favorite, you know videos that's out online is that
famous former KGB agent Uri Beznov who's interviewed in the
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eighties and seventies, you know, and and this whole thing,
regardless of what side, whether it's communism, capital is them,
total terrorism, fascism, whatever it is, is to get you
to question everything, including your core beliefs. So what I'm
asking you to do, in fact, what I'm begging you
to do, is get face to face with people, not
(47:15):
only people who don't believe you, but people who do
and have the same and similar interests. And you'd be
surprised there's more people on your block that believe the
same thing, regardless of the color of their skin, the
color of their hair, regardless of their political affiliation or
their economic status. There's core ideals, core morals that we
all believe in, and that's where you center your foundation.
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Those are the cornerstones in order for you to combat
the idea that everything's a scion. Thank you so much
for joining us today on this show. I hope you
enjoyed it. What would we would love for you to
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(48:44):
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(49:06):
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and protect them and protect each other against everything that
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we believe might be a Siah. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
God speak
Do you believe that everything is a lie? Do you
believe that you're under a constant attack from every type
of psychological operation there is? Join me as I help
you to navigate all of these psyops. This is the
David Rutherford Show. We'll know our disinformation campaign is complete
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when everything the American public believes is false. This quote
is attributed to William J. Casey, who is the CIA
director from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty seven under
President Ronald Reagan. It is noted that the authenticity of
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it has been a little bit debated. In the original
source was Barbara Haneger, who claims she was at a
meeting when he said this. However, whether it's true or false,
there is a an assumption that pretty much everything that
we are witnessing on the internet, in the news cycle,
(01:12):
through our government, through foreign governments, through our the NGOs,
through everything is a sye op.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
In fact, my best friend Sean Ryan was on with
Tucker Carlson recently and had the courage to literally say
everything is a lie. Now, this is incredibly difficult for
some people to hear. But if you're like me and
you are struggling to process the magnitude of information that's
(01:45):
coming at us at speeds the likes of with human
beings have never ever experienced before in human history. You
probably have this feeling too, and it's a tough feeling
to have, because you know, when the framework of how
you believe in something, whether it's through our institutions, our
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health institutions, are our intelligence institutions, our police forces, our
community institutions, our business institutions, when we start to believe,
when the public starts to believe that they're not getting
the truth in any way, shape or form, what does
that do well? It jolts the very fabric you're, the
(02:30):
very fabric of your subjective perception of reality. Now, why
have we gotten to this place?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Jordi and I have these conversations more than you could
possibly fath them. In fact, right before we were getting on,
we were talking about a couple other of the psyops
that have taken place, and we've been going down these
rabbit holes. Will hopefully do a show on these in
the future, but right now we're trying to investigate them
(03:02):
to a place where we feel comfortable that we can
deliver them. But you know, I mean, I think you
are well aware of this because you're feeling it, you're
seeing it. These are not ideas, right. The very idea
of a conspiracy theory, we know, was a term that
was invented by whom, JORDI don't know, the Central Intelligence Agency.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Why is that always the answer?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And they invented it as a result of people questioning
the narrative about the JFK, about President John F. Kennedy's assassination.
Hell I just saw Tim Blanchard on a video. He
was in a briefing from the medical doctor who saw
Kennedy in Houston and Stead. There were four bullet entries
(03:53):
into the president, which leads to believe it could have
been two to three different shooters. All right, So all right,
that's the mother of all conspiracy theories, right, the mother
of all psyops that has been run against the American
public for a long period of time. Now today's show,
(04:13):
what I'm going to attempt to do is look at
this a little, you know, objectively if I can. Obviously,
with my background working in special operations and also working
for private military industrial complex as well as the Central
Intelligence Agency, there is no doubt in my military mind, right, Geordie,
(04:39):
that we are going to be inundated in comments and
posts that well old Rutts just running another PIO. Right,
So here we go, right, all right, So as I
evaluate what's going on right now, Like one of the
funniest ones is people calling my best friend Sean Rye
(05:01):
and a syop and that he's actually still working with
the government and he's trying to manipulate the masses to
the tune of his what some thirty plus million downloads
a month, that's all. It's all being pushed by a
sye up. And I can tell you that's categorically bullshit.
All right. I'm a guy who talks to him just
about every week, sometimes every day of the week, and
(05:23):
that's just not the case, I'm telling you, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
The other aspect is, you know, the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean, we even had Elon Musk perpetuate another you know,
conspiracy theory that Trump's in the Epstein files, to which,
of course Dan bo Gino and Cash Betel and others
have JD Vance have categorically said that's not true, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But it's not just the Epstein.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
We understand now in depth so much information about Epstein
and his relationships with various people across various different organizations
and funding and background and all seems to be peculiar
about how this guy comes out of nowhere and is
able to do what he's doing. And you know, for me,
the biggest one was when the Attorney General in Florida
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or one of the deputies during that time, was investigating
case and afterwards made in a news article, Well, I
was told I can't touch him. He's part of intelligence, right,
you know, so you've got that which is exploding and
just hanging on the consciousness of all of us every day, right,
because why the hell would you protect anybody that's that's
(06:37):
you know, destroying young women or destroying young kids in
any way, shape or form, and all these malicious stories
that have come out, and certainly with when Virginia du
Free commits suicide about a month ago or whatever, you know, again,
that just provokes the idea that everything's a sigh of
(06:58):
I think the one that really, you know, kind of
woke everybody up.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I know, Jordi, you and I've talked about this
was COVID, right.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It was the messaging right when every single TV station
news station around the country is parrotying the same dialogue. Right, Oh,
it started in a wet market, It started with the bat,
it started with this and you know, meanwhile, right about
the same time it's releasing, there's a war game for
(07:30):
pandemics taking place called Vent two zero one.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
That as the deputy director of the CIA.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The head of international news organizations and businesses all meeting
around around talk now, what do we do? How do
we control the narrative during a pandemic? Right? And oh shit,
a few months later, we're facing a pandemic which very
quickly we came to realize was only going after people
(07:57):
that had all different types of pre existing conditions. It's
attacking the old people. You know, it's got a death
rate of point one something, you know, very low. Nobody's dying.
But yet next thing we know, we're standing six feet apart.
We're getting I'm getting screamed at at soccer games for
not wearing a mask outside, right, almost getting into fights
(08:18):
with people everywhere I go. And I'm in Florida. I
couldn't imagine what I'd be like if I lived.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
In Illinois or New York or some one of these
other crazy places. Right, Well, the experts agree, that's right.
The experts listen to the experts, Well all of them agree.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, that's right, and that's what we were just talking about. George,
comment on that a little bit what you just said there.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I said that, you know, if seventy percent of
experts agree and thirty percent disagree, there's probably potentially something
there to the truth. But if all of the experts
and something agree on one side of a narrative, that's
a red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
And who and who got hammered?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Right, you got Batachari, who's one of the world's leading scientists.
They canceled him. Doctor Robert Malone that we had, they
canceled him. I mean, you were literally shut down and
your life was attemptedly destroyed. And because God blessed Mike
Bens because of the work he's done to you know,
really dig in as well as you know, when we
(09:23):
got the Twitter fires, Michael Schallenberg, Matt tayub Berry Wise
and what we found out about the government's own influence
on these social media companies, you know, basically telling them,
you know, I mean, what's his name, Old Old runs
metas Old Zuck himself was on with Joe Rogan and
(09:45):
said they basically threatened our entire existence. You know, with
section two thirty. If if we didn't go along with
the narrative, YouTube still banning people for right anti vaccine whatever.
You know, So you have the COVID narrative that then
led into what the mRNA shots, where you have the
(10:08):
people who are familiar saying this is a gene editing secrets. No, no, no,
these people are conspiracies, theories, blah blah blah, not happening. Meanwhile,
all the experts come out and now we have forced vaccination,
which is against Geneva conventions, and we have forced the news.
You could argue the whole George Floyd thing was a
(10:30):
massive psyop. Right now, whether or not you want to
get into an argument about the persecution of inner city minorities,
in particular African Americans and how they've been treated over
the years, there is no doubt in my mind that
in certain areas and country, certain cities, the abuse of
power against these people has been catastrophic. But when you
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look at the FBI crime statistics from twenty nineteen and
you see what is at only eighteen on our black
men were.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Killed by police officers.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
In fact, more unarmed white men were killed by police
officers in that time. You know, it kind of dispels
the idea when you go when they were in the streets,
how many black men do you think are killed every year?
And some people would be like five thousand, ten, twenty thousand. Well,
where does that come from? Where does that information come from?
Who's proselytizing that non statistical, nonfactual information that shifts the
(11:30):
narrative in the psychology of a particular group of groups
of people?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right? Who led that?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And now we've seen the autopsy reports on George Floyd.
He had enough fentanyl in him to kill a horse, right,
And the guy was an existing criminal, right He had
gone to jail before by holding a gun at a
pregnant woman's belly while his associates ransacked her house, and
he did time for that. So this criminal who's essentially
(11:58):
odin on on fetanohl is now a hero against this
cop who was integrating a tactic that was actually taught
in his police training. Right Now, how did that narrative
get built? How did we get to a point where
we had hundreds of thousands of people in the streets
(12:19):
burning places down? And who paid for a lot of
those right? Who paid for those riots, who funded those riots,
who bought tickets for those riots. Now, I know what
you're gonna say. You're gonna say, if you're not on
a conservative or right or left whatever, you're going to say, well, rot,
you know what about all the lies on the other side.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm with you, man.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The war in Iraq, if that was in the syop,
then what the hell was I mean, they paraded, you know,
these top people out in front of the world and said, yeah, absolutely,
you know, Saddam Hussein developing nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction,
going to do all this. I had buddies that were
(13:02):
on the original group that was sent out there to
look for these things without the agency, and some of
the stories I heard don't kind of match that narrative.
And now we've had people openly admit that that narrative
was coerced and concocted not by the left, but by
the right, by the Bush administration, by Secretary Rice, by
(13:26):
a colon. Powell got in front of the entire world
and said, Yep, he's he's going to do it. There
were even people said, yeah, they're part al Qaeda? Was
that a psyop?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Was that the truth? We can talk about nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I mean there's people out there raising all kinds of
things about nine to eleven right now. And if you
don't explain Building seven to me, whether or worse, explain
to me the documents that we have now, who was
funding and who was monitoring some of these pilots while
they lived out in California and Florida. I mean, they
were on everybody's radar. They knew what was going on.
(14:03):
The Saudis were running a couple of them as assets.
Were they communicating with our Central Intelligence Agency? We certainly
know that the agency funded the Mouhajaeden funded Bin Lodden
back in the eighties against the war in Russia. Right,
Or how about let's go even deeper, how about Iran Contra,
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how about Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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operations have been a part of human history since the
dawn of civilizations. They date all the way back to
Egypt in ancient Samaria, I mean the Romans for sure
running syops and the church on all aspects. Every every
religion runs particular types of PsiOps. If you with the
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printing press, the printing press changed the whole game, right,
And I'll talk about the Internet and where we're at
now in the future AI here in a bit. But
you know, when you start to really evaluate kind of
you know, the history of all this, it's it's really profound.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And you know some of the you know, the.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Earliest propaganda that I think is relevant in the modern
eras you know, started by the British Empire, right, And
you know when you look at the British government established
the War Propaganda Bureau in nineteen fourteen, market marking one
of the earliest organized efforts in psychological warfare. This bureau
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centralized the production and distribution of propaganda materials, including leaflets pamphlets,
aimed at influencing public opinion both domestically and enemy territories.
By nineteen eighteen, the British Foreign Officer appointed the Viscount
Northcliffe as the Director of Propaganda and Enemy Countries, overseeing
targeting Austria, Hungary and Germany. Right, I don't think you're naive.
(17:14):
In fact, I know you're not. I know you're smart,
and I know you know you've heard these things in
various ways probably throughout your whole life, whether you've watched
some kind of JFK movie by Oliver Stone, or you're
all over the internet now and you're gravitating towards these people,
or who've accessed these documents. I mean, look at Julian
(17:37):
Esange himself. I mean, we have the WikiLeaks documents that
basically proved a lot of the stuff that was going
on on both sides of the Isle in America. And
in January nineteen eighteen, the US War Department established the
Psychological sub Section, later renamed the Propaganda Section, under Military
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Intelligence Division am I two. Captain Captain Herbert Blankenhorn, a
civilian journalist, was appointed to lead this unit. The mission
of the Psychological Subsection was to organize and implement psychological
strategies to influence enemy morale and support US military objectives.
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Between August and November nineteen eighteen, the Propaganda Section approx
produced approximately five point one million leaflets in eighteen different designs.
These leaflets were disseminated primarily through aerial drops hydrogen balloons.
The content aimed to demoralize German troops and encourage surrender. Surrender,
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interrogations of German prisoners of war and post war analysis
indicate that these efforts contributed to the erosion of enemy
morale in the final months.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Of the war. Now, hold, you're you know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Not trying to say all America is bad, because man,
I love America more than any anything that's out there. Right,
There's no other place that I would ever want to live.
There's no other country I would ever want to serve.
I serve my country. I lost friends to this. Trust me.
I'm all in on America. I'm all in on this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm all in on anything that's going to make America
great too.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Right. But however, this is a reality of how things
are done. If you don't believe that, you're naive. Now,
this is also a reality in every other place as well, too, Right.
You know, I just want to talk a little bit
about let's talk about the Russian Revolution, right, which was
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immeasurably a component of propaganda. You had led by preminent Bolsheviks,
Vladimir Lenin. Right, you have using newspapers like Pravda co
edited by Joseph Stalin, Vashank Loaf Maltov, amongst others. You
had Leon Trotsky who was trained in propaganda. Right, they
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all played a major role which led to this civil war.
You know, and they established the Glevitt, the Glavelet, the
main administration for literary and publishing affairs, and in nineteen
twenty two to oversee censorship in propaganda. Now we know,
undoubtedly through people like Alexander Sultzanitza and the Glulag Archipelagos,
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that Stalin took this to a whole other level where
his whole thing behind communism was to get you know,
everybody online. And what happened is that you would move
up the chain of society up into the elevated levels,
you know. And what happened ultimately got to a place
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where children would lie to move up to get extra
food or power whatever, and tell yeah, my parents are
part of the bourgeois right. They're oppressed, they're against the regime.
And what do we know. As a result of this
type of propaganda influence, Somewhere between forty and sixty five
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million human beings were annihilated as a result of it. Annihilated.
They were not in prison, they were annihilated. They were
starved to death. They were incarcerated. I mean, I mean
he wiped out massive amounts of professors in their universities,
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He wiped out politicians, He wiped out war heroes from
World War Two when they got back in the Third Purge, right,
so we know, you know these tyrannical regimes were they
did it. And we can always talk about Joseph Goebels, right,
I mean, this guy took propaganda to a whole other level.
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I mean with his movies, in his the rhetoric, and
how he would make these insane promotional videos of Hitler
and his speeches, and they the flags and the pomp
and circumstance and the dog and ponies, and you know,
those insane you know, everybody see Kile And I mean
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that was powerful stuff for the German people. And then
whatever information that was coming out of the West calling
out his atrocities and his insanity, you know, they would
take it, flip it and use it for the German people, right.
And you know, you combined just those two governments alone
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and what they're capable of, and you've got the atrocity
of World War Two, which is you know, some say
seventy five eighty million people, but how many people were
incinerated where there was no more You couldn't find any
of them? Are there are no records or I mean
it could be even more than we could possibly fathm.
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So this is something that is very much a part
of of who we are and what we are. You know,
one of the guys that I keep referencing a lot
that's exposing this kind of censorship industrial complex or the
the heart of of of kind of modern propaganda and
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psyops is Mike bents and I and I really, I
really have a tremendous amount of respect for the the
the information that he's put in out and you can
you can follow me. He's been on He's been on Tucker,
He's been on Joe Rogan, he's been on Sean's show.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
He has his own stream all day.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You know. One of the most recent ones, my favorite
was you know he uh Bono was on Joe Rogan
and basically made the claim that three hundred thousand children
are dead as a result of canceling the fund funding
or shutting down us A I D, which he has
also exposed as one of the primary components of fulfilling
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colored revolutions over the last twenty five years around the world,
I mean usa ID was responsible for funny. Nine out
of ten newspapers and journals or periodicals in Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Over the last five years.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
So he says three hundred thousand based on this study
that was done from one person up in the Boston area.
And immediately Mike Ben's uncovers that, you know, he did
this concert back in the day Live Aid, which you know,
I remember that whole thing. I was a firm supporter.
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Let's feed the start, even kids in Africa. I mean
I loved it. I loved the music. I love his music.
I love you two his music. But Mike Ben's came
out that during that they raised one hundred million dollars
and there's an article and you can find it under
his his work. He did that basically says only five
million dollars of that money raise went to feed children,
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and ninety five million went to to give guns to
the rebels in these areas that were trying waging these
civil wars that affected and ultimately butchered and maimed and
killed all these innocent women and children, now elderly people.
So you know, when you start to think about that,
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it's intense. Well, here's the one and this came out
in nineteen forty eight. The National Security Council Directive NSC
ten Slash two was a foundational document, and it was
acted on June eighteenth, nineteen forty eight, and it established
the framework for US covert operations, including the use of
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plausible deniability right. And it defined covert operations as activities
conducted or quote conducted or sponsored by this government against
hostile foreign states or groups in support or of friendly
foreign states or groups, but which are so plan and
execute that any US government responsibility for them is not
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evident to unauthorized persons, and that if uncovered, the US government, Right,
here's a kicker, can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Now,
I can tell you plausible deniability is an accurate claim.
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And you know what, it's been very useful. I'm not
gonna say that it's not a useful tool for us
to kentuck legitimate operations around the world to protect our homeland,
to protect our people, to protect our interests. I would
be insane of me to say that that's not valuable
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to US as a nation. It's critical that we have
these capabilities. But like any tool being used to power
around the world, what happens when the wrong people get
a part of that tool. Now, what I found really interesting.
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You know, in the architect of this whole thing was
a guy named George F. Keenan, and he was the
director of the Policy Planning staff at the State Department.
And what you have to understand is that back then
it was it was the War Department, the State Department,
and essentially, you know, internal Revenue Service where the main things.
But you know, you go into a world war and
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everything changes, right, and you have to come up with
all these new ideas and plans on how to assess
major threats to our existence around the world. And what
I found kind of interesting was right around that same time,
the smith mont Act was established in nineteen forty eight.
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The United States Information and Education Exchange Act of nineteen
forty eight, commonly known as the Smith Monk Act, was
an acted to promote US public diplomacy and information programs abroad,
such as those run by the State Department and Voice
of America. A key provision prohibited the dissemination of information
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produced for foreign audiences within the United States. And essentially
what this was was designed to restrict the ability for
the US government to use propaganda against its own people,
you know. And there is also the National Security Act
of nineteen forty seven and This Act established as a
framework for the US intelligence and national security operations, including
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the creation of the CIA National Security Council, But it
drew a bright line between the foreign and domestic intelligence
activities to protect civil liberties. Right now, they recognize that,
you know, hey, we have to protect ourselves against this
now Unford. Fortunately, again, as any tools are used in
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that plausible dying deniability, you know, really kind of began
to shift over time, and you know, within the nineteen
fifties and sixties, the you know, the famous ones that
have come out, obviously, one being Operation Chaos, which is
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where the CIA initiated programs in conjunction with the FBI
and other intelligence operations uh TO aimed at moditoring and
infiltrating anti war organizations during the Vietnam War. So they
basically said, hey, listen, if you're a threat to our
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foreign policy, we're gonna put eyes on you, and we're
going to disrupt you, and we're going to influence you
to do acts that then can take other people down. Right,
It's it's covert op like we do overseas. Right, we
infiltrate these foreign terrorist organizations or governments, and we we
collect assets, We bring them on to payroll, We influence them,
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we manipulate them, and they give us information and then
we we do all kinds of covert uh military and
and and paramilitary and intelligence uh, covert actions. And but
you know in these they were they were run against
the American people. You know, this involved the surveillance of
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over seven thousand Americans and the infiltration of various groups,
including the Black Panther Party, UH, the studies for the
Democratic Society, you know, which were all kind of brought
out in the Church Committee hearings in the nineteen seventies
because we and then we found out about coin Cointel Pro,
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which was an FBI led series of covert and often
illegal activities armed at surveyors infiltrating, discrediting, disrupting domestic political
organizations deemed as subversive subversives. Then we had Operation mocking
Bird right where that's where the alleged program the CIA
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began in the late nineteen forties, which continued through the
nineteen seventies, aimed at influencing domestic and foreign media. The
CIA reportedly recruited journalists from major news outlets to disseminate propaganda,
suppress information unfavorable to us interesants. The program was exposed
in the nineteen seventies by the Church Committee. Now, you know,
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you can also get into mk Ultro, which is the
one everybody wants to talk about, is the ultimate siop
where you can actually program individuals to go do your
dastardly deeds. You know, they targeted Heighte Ashbury in the
late sixties, They've targeted other people and you know, and
there's information and documents that have come out that prove
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this all existed. The scia of UFOs is the many
people believe that that's been a syop from the beginning.
Now it's reaching you know, cataclysmic proportions where everybody and
the brother is talking about this internal program. We know
people are here this the skin walkers, the reptilians, right,
there's four different you know, people living in the center
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of the world.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Is that a syop? Or isn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
It's certainly going to destabilize people and make people afraid.
It's going to question, it's going to induce fear, and
that's a problem. Fear is what they're after, and fear
is the thing that enables, that really prevents and provokes
people to get into this, and so once that fear
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is initiated in you, then things change, you know, And
what was happening the Church Committee, all this came out.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The whole public was fear. They shut it down.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Carter all these operations within the Agency Intel, FBI. Uh.
Then he went out of office, right, Reagan came in
lit the switch back on. Now, if you were to
imagine that those organizations are not conducting any of these
it's just simply not true.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We know it's not true.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Now the question becomes to what degree. What we do
know is that none of these acts or provisions or
laws that prevent right, along with other executive orders and
the ability of the executive the DOJ that prevent all
this stuff. You know, what is not question and is
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not tackled are outside industries, right, is the NGOs of
the world, Right, the different industries and what they tell us.
The food industries, Oh no, that's perfectly safety. The pharmaceutical
companies which have been indicted and essentially had to pay
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the most dramatic finds in human history, but yet for
some reason, they still have plausible deniability. They've got these
immunity issues, these liability clauses like the mRNA vaccine.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
How come why do we do that? Right? Why do
we give people blanket pardons? Hey?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Why does the Biden family get pardoned? Why does Fauci
get pardoned? Why do eight thousand people get parted? And
that's that's on both sides. I mean, both sides have
a substantial way of parting people. Why are we doing that?
Why do we protect that? What's going on? Now, here's
what I'm going to tell you. Everything is definitely not
a syop. Right, I'm one hundred percent telling you quantifiably
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we give a lot more credit to these organizations than
they deserve. And it's not to say there are most
some of the most talented people on the planet. Man.
I worked with some people at where I worked in
particular ular the direct few direct hires that I worked
with were phenomenal. I mean, these guys and these women
that I worked with were incredible patriots, incredibly dedicated. One
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of my closest friends out there is still doing it
and he is barna on one of the most people
that has the highest integrity of people I've ever met
in my life. Same in DD and special operations. Right,
So not everything is a psyop. It makes it easier
for us to question, and but it does. What it
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does is it provokes a deeper sense of critical thinking.
And that's what I need you to do. I need
you to start thinking more critically, not to believe every
single ex post that exists.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I hate to really.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Get in to the understanding of how these things are
taking place.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right. You know, we have been lured in by these.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Mythologies of our past to believe that things are in
these binary choices. Right, everything's either communism, or everything's either fascism,
everything's either capitalism, or everything's either you.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Know, totalitarianism. Right. Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
A lot of that is true, and there are definitely
nefarious organizations on every side trying to work for their
own political and financial gain just ask my friend Ian
Burlingame for sure. But there's also a significant amount of
people on this planet that are not trying to generate PsiOps,
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that are not out there manipulating for any other reason,
but trying to influence you because they believe something in
their heart. I think that's where this show comes from.
I've been around enough and seen enough to know that,
you know, the best way to try and influence people
is to tell them the truth and how you and
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what you believe ain't And if you get hit with
a hard question, you know, to come up with a
difficult answer within yourself, to scan the complete narrative of
how you look at what the our core values are.
And for me as a Christian, for me as an American,
you know, I'm not going to get lured into that
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that trope. Not going to be manipulated by those ideas
behind communism and fascism and totalitarianism and beyond greed within capitalism.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's just not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I have too much to lose, including my reputation, but
more so the faith of my close friends and my
most importantly my family. That's what matters most, and it
should matter to you as well too, That's what should matter.
Are you out there reposting these things because you like
to get more clicks or you like to stir the pooch?
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Are you you just like to hammer people that you
don't agree on ideologically? Remember, the whole idea of all
of this propaganda, all of these psyops, is to make
you and me hate each other.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's the whole point.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Behind this stuff is to get them to make us divided,
to make us against each other on these these other
things over here that are distracting these these other things
instead of paying attention to the bigger things, like you know,
why are why is our our our deficit increasing by
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a trillion dollars every three months? Why why are we
conducting proxy wars overseas that could potentially lead to World
War III? Why are we being taxed at such an
insane rate that it's destroying the futures of young people today,
who can't buy a house, who can't pay off their loans,
who can't can't pay for the whatever it is people.
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And that's why nobody he's getting married, nobody's having kids,
nobody's doing that. You know, I do understand that there's
a certain group of people that want the breakdown of
our of our society to take place, to move people
away from faith, to break down the family. And yeah,
that's real too, But is it you know, is it
enough to make you stop believing and what you know
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to be the truth?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (39:22):
So, the questions you have to ask yourself is who
is perpetuating the narrative that you're being influenced back? Who specifically,
what person, what's their background, where do they come from,
What are their belief systems? When did they start?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Right? Where do they come from?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Right? What is why are they perpetualing the name? The
other is who's paying for their narrative? Where's the funding
about it? Where's that coming from? And within that narrative,
within that payment system are they hiding it? Are they
affiliated with people with other groups, organizations that they're being
fed by, that are conducting other different psychological operations or
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nefarious activities, you know? And then also what studies, what
research the experts, if you will, what facts are being
used to influence you? We see these little pieces, these
statistics come out, but yet all of a sudden, now
we take that one little thread, that one little thing,
and we slap it down as the ultimate designation of
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our ideology. Why why are you doing that? We need
to get past those superficial designations, those supervicial threads of
our ideology and get back to the root of what
we genuinely believe in and what I believe is the
overwhelming majority of us believe in the same thing. Now,
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regardless of what you believe of which side you're on
with Trump and Elon whatever, he ran.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
This amazing, this amazing uh.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Poll on his account yesterday and said, do you believe
that America needs a new party? And when I looked
at the last there was one point seven million votes
that had been conducted in over eighty three percent of
those people who voted said yes, we need to break
that down. That's part of this whole idea that we're
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being lied to by the two parties that have been
in charge for a very long time. But also it's
a I think it's a condemnation of the experts and
the institutions that now we all feel are in jeopardy.
We don't believe the experts anymore. And there's right, there's
a reason, you know. And then the last part is
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I want you to really think about what is the
intent of the article, the post, the video, or the
story that's being told to you. What's the intent? For me?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
My intent is to get you to think to pull
out of the whole you're in because of the pressures,
the tsunami and information that's being thrust at you, to
get you to back a way, to not engage, to
break contact, because that's what everybody wants you to do.
As long as you're disengaged from these critical things of
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your local government, your local communities, you know, your state governments,
to get you to disengage because it's overwhelming to you.
That's the intent. And I even have even started to
talk about AI. I mean there's people out there. When
you listen to these experts, there will come a time
where nothing is distinguishable. You won't be able to tell
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between what's rut, what's real, and what's not and what
does the American public demand?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
There? We remember the last time, right? Do you remember?
You remember how you felt after nine to eleven? You
remember how you were whipped into a frenzy to go
after an adjective or a verb called terrorism? What is
Who's terrorism?
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Right? And we're able to manip pipulate that concept constantly?
Wait till AI is running the show. Currently, there are
bot farms. I heard someone tell me once that kind
of was in the know. There there's a two million
people in China that are tasked with generating this and
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malinformation all the different whatever, controlling these bot farms over
in China, Right, You don't think that's happening over in
Russia and Ukraine, in Africa, uh and Iran, in Israel
and the US government itself. You don't think we're doing
all that as well too. So when AI gets to
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a place where it's indistinguishable, what do we do do
we come out and say we want Patriot Act two
point zero Like you heard me in the one I
talked about that we can review, and I talked about
the one big beautiful bill that little provision about No
state can question the federal government's AI implementation or spending.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Why do they do that? Why do they put it
in there?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Because they want control of the narrative, and it's gonna
get tougher and tougher. But here's what you're gonna do. Hey,
this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna learn to
think critically. You're gonna surround yourself with people that are
able not to be too emotional one way or the other.
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You're gonna go. You're gonna go fact by fact. You're
gonna unwind that pull that them sucking you into these
ideological ideas, these ideological constructs that have been in play
for thousands of years and different civilizations in one way
or another. We're gonna get back to that fact by fact.
Now I know what you're saying. Rut you're going rut.
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How do I know what's a fact and what's not.
Therein lies the dedication, the commitment to what you believe in.
And if you're a true seeker of the truth, because
as you know, the truth will set you free. If
you're a true believer in that, then you will do
the work. You will do the work not only to
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educate yourself, but to educate those you love most, your children,
to teach them the real history of things, to expose
them to people that are unencumbered by a political drive
or an economic influence, but people that are desired to
bring forth what they believe to be the truth and
have done the work. And then the last thing, if
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you have the opportunity to get face to face to somebody,
have a conversation, question them on their facts. I was
at an event a few months ago, and I had
somebody who wanted to sit down with me and call
me out on some of the things that I was
suggesting to be true. And as he would call me
out and make these statements about Trump and about other
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things I believed in, you know, he would I would
come back, well, why don't you believe this? And he
would just say, oh, well, he's a crazy person or
he's a liar. And I'd say, well, we will give
me one example of how he lied. Well, he said, oh,
you know, Neo Nazis are very fine people. And I
was like, d that's been debunked, or you know, but
President Obama said it, it's been debunked, or you know,
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now we know. You know the whole thing. Joe Biden
is at his best I've ever seen him. That's a psyop. Hey,
that's to maintain political control or power. That's a psiop.
So you get in front of people, make them express themselves.
Don't you keep your cool, keep yourself, don't get crazy
like the other crazies out there, because that's their job
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to be crazy. It's their job to make you lose control.
It's their job to make you fracture your foundation and belief.
That's their job is to make that fracture. One of
my favorite, you know videos that's out online is that
famous former KGB agent Uri Beznov who's interviewed in the
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eighties and seventies, you know, and and this whole thing,
regardless of what side, whether it's communism, capital is them,
total terrorism, fascism, whatever it is, is to get you
to question everything, including your core beliefs. So what I'm
asking you to do, in fact, what I'm begging you
to do, is get face to face with people, not
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only people who don't believe you, but people who do
and have the same and similar interests. And you'd be
surprised there's more people on your block that believe the
same thing, regardless of the color of their skin, the
color of their hair, regardless of their political affiliation or
their economic status. There's core ideals, core morals that we
all believe in, and that's where you center your foundation.
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Those are the cornerstones in order for you to combat
the idea that everything's a scion. Thank you so much
for joining us today on this show. I hope you
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we believe might be a Siah. Thank you very much.
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