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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to a numbers game. A Ryan Gridoski, Thank
you guys for being here. This is going to be
a fun episode. I have some very special guests, my
gen Z employees, who ladies and gentlemen. They are going
to come on the show because over the last year
working with them, I have realized that I am getting
old and that they do not understand most things that
I am talking about when I bring up a reference
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to culture or music or movies, and I want to
see how much they actually know. I want to know
if they know on earth what I'm talking about. So
it's to my amusements to your music. And they've all
volunteered to do this, no one's being forced to. We're
going to make a game out of it. It's about
it's going to be about gen X and millennial culture.
So it's going to be great. And if you like
this episode, please think that liking and subscribing on the
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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, wherever you get this podcast.
Before I get to that, I do want to break
down some important data that came out. The CDC is
finally released because of the government shutdown, finally released birth
data into our country. For the last two months, and
we have more evidence that Trump's mass deportations are working.
In September and October twenty twenty five, there were sixteen
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thousand fewer births by women foreign born women, women who
were born outside of the United States than there were in
the previous September and October of twenty twenty four. The
percentage of babies born to foreign women has decreased from
twenty five percent in January of this year to twenty
three percent in October. That may not seem like a
major change, but it's a big get the complete opposite
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trajectory of where things were going. Interestingly, it's decreased in
forty one states the overall birth rate of foreign born women,
and the few states that it has increased in it
is because the population of foreign born women is so
small that one or two extra children here there produces big,
you know, turnaround percentage wise. But for forty one out of
fifty states, I mean, there's this broad movement of form
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and born women having less children. It's one more data
set showing that the population of form born people, especially
illegal immigrants, has declined. There's an over decline because of
this massive emphasis on self deportation. Right, President Trump hasn't
deported you know, ten million people, but millions have left.
And what I sit on this podcast months ago, and
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what I said on my substack is that you would
see this as evidence in the data as time went on.
Like if you're an illegal immigrant and you're eight months
pregnant over in March or April, you're not gonna self
deport You're gonna hang around to have your baby get
American citizenship and then when they're eighteen, they could sponsor you.
It makes complete sense. But if you weren't pregnant then,
or if you were only one month or whatever the
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case is, you may just go on your own say
this is not worth it. And so they're self deporting.
And there's been a few things. There's the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, there's a census. But this is just one
more data set's showing it is true. Mass deportation is working.
The illegal alien and form born population is decreasing by
about two million People's what we're guessing, so viet the
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net negative population growth for the first time. It's also
evidence while you're seeing rents in some of these places
decline over last four months. This deep decline really though,
kicks in in the last three months. Right in the
last three months is where you're seeing this spike happen
as mass deportations pick up. So the early estimates is
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that there's about six hundred and three thousand berths from
September to September and October twenty twenty five. That's a
three percent reduction over last year. Not immense, but it's
not easily evenly distributed. Among non Hispanic whites, it's down
one point one percent. Among American Indians, it's down four
point seven. Among Latino's big one, big illegal alien population,
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it's dound five point three. Black Americans are down five
point four. Asians, also a big formal population, are down
six percent. The only group that is increasing in fertility
and births are multi racial They're up by three point
nine percent. Now. Even though berths are down slightly, the
percentages are increasing for certain groups, especially whites, because they
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decline the least of all other major groups. The black
birth rate, which is heavily American born, they've been plunging
like it's almost it should be studied by sociologists. They're
very well likely going to be under twelve percent of
the overall birth next year, which is pretty shocking given
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how say they were for so long in the birthdaya
going back to the nineties. And that's because of many
different things. A lot of conservatives will say it's because
of abortion, and abortion plays, you know, a part of it.
So does contraception. But there's also higher levels of college
education among Black women. College education is one of the
major determining factors of whether or not you're going to
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have children later on in life versus earlier. And there's
mass decline in teen pregnancy. When I was a kid,
teen pregnancy was very common. Teen pregnancy is almost completely
like it doesn't happen almost at all anymore, especially among
Latino and Black women. That group has fallen substantially, as
has fertility across the board. And of course there is
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the question of affordability, and people are putting off having
a child because it's unaffordable right now, all those things
are playing into the factors, especially among Black women and
how few children that they are having. It's a strange
phnomenon that is happening to such a degree now because
it was huge in the last two years and it's
continuing at pace. In this year, I'm going to do
a true nerd fest on the birth data for my substack.
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If you guys want to check it out, a national
populist newsletter on substack. It'd be very interesting. I might
do a whole episode gearing into the end of the year.
I'm going to have a religion episode as we get
closer to Christmas time with my priest, my priest father,
and Nick who's agreed to come on the show. And
we have a few other fun episodes. But this is
I think a data set getting into really where things
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are moving culturally. There's a lot of things that play
people decide to have a child. Affordability is one of them,
culture is one of them. How desirable it is to
have kids as a preference. Religions another one. So there's
a lot to kind of decipher from this information. I
can't wait to sit there and really break it down
for you guys. That'll be on my sub second I'll
probably cover for the podcast. Okay, enough of this data,
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I want to get to the fun stuff. I want
to quiz my employees on what they know about millennial
and gen X culture. My gen Z employee, So stay tuned.
That's coming up next. So this is a very exciting
episode of my podcast. We have on my team, my
gen Z team, to talk about different things that happened
when I was a kid, for millennials and Gen xers
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because a lot of times I've noticed over the last
year that I've been working with these guys that they
don't know what I'm talking about, and I thought this
would be fun, So we have on my show today
we have on my employees, Will Wiley, Alex and Colton.
Thank you all for being here. By way, they were
not forced to be here. They all volunteered to be here.
So the way it's going to work is this. We're
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going to break down to three different categories, sixteen questions.
You guys get a point if you get it correctly
the question correctly, you lose one if you get it incorrectly.
The winner at the end gets a pro gy. So
the first category will be music. Say, I know you
guys are all excited about all these songs I picked,
by the way, were number one hits. They were not.
I didn't pick number seven on a random CD. These
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were all every one of my generation and a little
older knew all of these songs. So all right, mister producer,
go to slot one of song one children, that's what
they say one was again and watch.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They don't understand.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So anyone who knows the answer, not a clue, nothing, Alex, Alex,
you listen to music.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, that's so Kate Bush.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kate, but no it is not Kate Bush Culton anything
that you could guess. Okay, that is Tiffany. The song
is called I Think We're Alone Now. It was a
before there was Britney Spears, before there's Sprinting Carpenter, there
was there was Tiffany, biggest solo teen pop girl of
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the eighties. All right, getting off to a great start.
But Alex, thank you for giving a shot. Second song,
go to it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You want to know.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Pol really okay? Song Mark Marky Mark is Mark Wohlberg.
I was like, okay, it's the famous person. You guys
were definitely gonna know, at least to the actors before
(09:02):
he was an actor singer. I'm actually so happy that
you know one thing. Yeah, I've been to his burger joint.
Is that how you know who he is? Yeah? He
was a rapper and his brother was on New Kids
on the Block. I was gonna pick new Kids on
the block. But literally the song is the the only
line in the entire show, and the entire song is
(09:24):
just the lyrics is the name of it. So I
was like, this is gonna be too weazy. Okay, we're
down with the eighties. That was good. Vibrat sorry nineteen
ninety one, that was early nineties, all right. Third song,
go to it? Okay, huge band min nineties, two super
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big albums that they came out with, banger after banger.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But you've heard that before? Where have you heard that?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well? In like restaurants?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
MM.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So your parents just didn't tell you when they failed you. Okay,
what anybody? No, anybody else want to take a stab
at that cultivat like Aha it is not Aha No.
Aha was from the eighties and they were a one
hit wonder. This band had a bunch of other heads.
Alex anything this from Ace of Bass. Yes, that is true,
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that is As of Bass. I saw the sign all right, Alex,
look at you. Alex likes music. So I figured, okay,
this is gonna be an Alex come at the moment
right now. So all right, uh three more, here we go.
This was one of my favorite favorite songs. I was
a kid. It was a one hit wonder, but it
was like a chart topper and it's a banger. So okay,
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next one's lot four. Have a history of ALM sure
gets one days you looked at me crazy, five days
you tackled me ones on both Monday, three the afternoon
my fault too soon, you said you've forgiven me.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So you say your.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Song, all right, give it a shot. Yeah, Alex that
one week? Yeah, do you know the artists something ladies,
bare naked ladies. Wow, Alex, there you go, very excited.
All right, very cool. All right, we got alex Is
on a roll right now. Okay, all right, two more.
(11:37):
We're getting later into the so this is like the
two thousand now, so you guys were all alive at
this point, which is I guess a musk for anyone
to know his music. Okay, I'm sure everyone's gonna know
the next one, but go ahead, let me know if
you know the remember that an aged man?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, maybe street boys. Bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That is not bye bye bye. Literally, the words were
not bye bye bye like you just heard them, and
the old lyrics of bye bye bye are those words?
I mean, how did you. Oh my god, Wiley, like,
what are you talking about? No, no, it was not.
In fact, the name of the band is in the video,
but that was in men's confidence. I appreciate that. Anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, isn't it? Yes? Okay? I always looks way different now,
no age, okay, But.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
What the name of the song? Do you ever know
this song?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It was a girlfriend It is not girl for that
was by Justin Bieber, an entirely different person.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
No, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
No, it's not okay, So it was it's gonna be made.
But all right, we're no, you weren't okay. Last song,
last part of the music thing. This was in the
mid two thousands, another one hit wonder but definitely when
like emo ish rock music was a big thing in
the two thousands. This is what I listened to. Not
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this long, but you know, I listened to emo throughout
my entire teen years. I had a lot of Guideliner
going on. This was the biggest song of that genre.
So last one, go ahead, Wait, we got the song,
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go ahead? What's that? What is it? Alex? There you go? Okay?
So Alex knew, yeah, that was the biggest one. I
loved emo music like but there's mostly didn't ever chart
didn't go anywhere, so I couldn't like, I couldn't bring
up like Motion City soundtrack recthing. You guys have never
heard of it, So okay, leave in the first round,
Wiley's that negative one. Alex is at negative one, negative one,
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and Alex is at negative one as well, so and
Will and Colton are tied for zero. So let's hopefully
they bring up something on the board whatsoever. Okay, So
these are some big movies and I wump movies and
TV shows in together. Right, I'm gonna describe it. I'll
tell you some either director or actor was in it.
(14:25):
Tell me if you can name it, and then let
me know if you've ever seen it. So the first
one is about it's there's a huge movie nineteen eighty
five by John Hughes. Five Teenagers are Stuck in Detention.
It is a classic staples of gen X eighties movies.
Five teenager. You go, okay, well we'll go Alex. You
go first, because you raise your hand first.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
There you go, Okay, that was Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Will?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You did? Okay, all right, so at least you know Colton,
did you ever see any movies.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I've seen Breakfast Club before. I couldn't think of
the name. I was taking detention or something, but it
was something.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, all right, so this is all right, classic staple
eighties movie. I think everyone has probably seen at this point.
It's plays on like TBS a lot or something like that.
All right, next question. This was a nineteen ninety five movie.
It was a retelling of Jane Austen's book Emma. It
starred Alicia Silverstone, who tries to out of two teachers
who are falling in love while she's falling in love
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with her stepbrother. Classic classic nineties movie, Lisia Silverstone. Cast hint,
what can we get more? Cast hints Alicia Silverstone. She's
the main part in it. Okay, Okay, I don't know.
Brittany Murphy is also in it, but she's passed away
(15:42):
since then. Anyone, guests take a guest take a stab
at high school nineties? You know, as If was like
a huge line in the movie that became something rolling
with the homies anything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh, I've heard people say as If before.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
No, that's just in general conversation. You've probably heard that,
but like, have you like it's pink. No, it's not
bringing the pink, but I get I thank you for trying.
Anyone else called in Anything nothing Okay, it's called clueless.
Oh have you ever heard that moving? Yes, you've have
you seen that moving? That's more like that's it. I
(16:24):
know it's it's but it's a nineties like it's never mind. Okay,
all right. This is the TV show from the nineties.
Hope it's done better. It's a huge classic that millennials
and Gen X was watched.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was about the main characters, a guy named Corey,
his best friend Shawn, and his girlfriend Topanga as they
went through high school and college and marriage together. This
was on first seven seasons, huge, huge growing up show.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Freaks and Geeks.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, okay, but freaking geeks. I'm actually even shocked. You
know the name of so that's a big deal. In
Anything it was Musty No, nothing will.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Three high schoolers. No, every time you say high school,
I'm gonna guest breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Okay, but that's not the answer. All the time. Alex
is a boy beats World. It is boy meets World Alex. Yes, okay,
you never heard of Boy Meets World. They had a
sequel cold Girl meets World but his daughter, Yeah, Ben Savage,
I was to remember it. Okay, all right, I figured
out right, there's another TeV. This show was what I
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watched every day before he was a superstar. I'm breaking bad.
Brian Cranston played a dysfunctional suburban dad named Hal who
tried to make ends meet with his working class wife
Lois and their four kids, Francis, Reyese, Malcolm, and Dewey. Okay, Wiley,
go ahead, Actually, okay, I was gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Did you guys know that show.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Him in the middle? Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you know that Will?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh you did? Okay, Wow, all right, good, I grew
up watching that. All right. Last movie, last one from
this category. It's a millennial teen movie. It's a coming
of age masterpiece where a character named fol gets a
fake ID called the name McLevin. Okay, we'll go.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Ahead, and super bad.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
There you go. I'm gonna have Will. One can't get
faster with the questions, Colton, did you see that movie?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, I've never seen mc loveth or never seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, it's a good one. It's it's definitely it's got
a lot of like Emma Stones first movie. It's a
cool mid two thousand's definitely millennial movie. All Right, I'm
gonna do five questions on world events. This is things
that definitely steeped in gen X and millennial culture that
we all remember, like it where we were, what like
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what happened? All right? This is the first one, and
this is I wasn't even alive for this, but it was.
I even know about it because it was so famous.
In nineteen eighty six, a little girl, an eighteen month
old girl, fell down a fell down a well, and
for fifty eight hours, the entire media covered her rescue.
What was that baby girl's name? Yes, it was literally
one of the first news stories that was ever breaking
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news where it was covered minute by minute. Before there
was like CNN and everyone covered everything minute by minute.
This was like the breaking news. Are they going to
get this little girl out of the well? This huge
America story was in Texas, not that any of you
guys are in Texas, but now nothing you ever heard
of baby Jessica. Guys, it was huge. I can't even
I can't emphasize this, but like it was a big,
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big deal, all right. In nineteen ninety eight, when the
world was shocked when this Spice Girl announced that she
was going to leave the band after just two albums
and a tour in a movie? Who was the Spice
Girl that broke up the band? And it made go ahead? Will?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's not Ice Spice, is it?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Ice Spice is not a person. If that is a person,
it is not a person in a band.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Will.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I don't know who Ice Spice even is? Is that
a rap?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
They're at contemporary artist?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, and you think that they were around in the
nineties and the Spice Girls. Okay, now it wasn't Cole
Alex go Ahead and what was it?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Ginger?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It was Ginger Spice. Alex is like the one who's
in there and throwing stuff? Colton. Did you ever hear
of the Spice Girls?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I've heard of them?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yes, okay, all right, well she was the one that
broke up the band, all right. In nineteen ninety seven
and two thousand, Camel and Marlborough cigarettes retired their classic
brand ambassadors. Can you name either one of them? Go Ahead?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Will was one of them, the Marlborough Man, the Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, Marlboro Man and Joe Cammel. Those were like the
two we used to be able to advertise on cigarettes
back in the day. Like not on television because that
was even before me, but like on billboards you could
advertise and Joe Camel and Marlboro Man were like the
image of like the cowboy and like cool Joe Cammel
if you smoked cigarettes, which you know, we all know
you were cool for smoking cigarettes. All right. Last two.
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Before there was Facebook, there was MySpace. And when you
made a MySpace account, the creator was your first friend.
Who was the creator of MySpace? What was his first name?
He would go at will was it? It is not
Joe Carlton. I feel like this is the one that
you're gonna get now, Alex.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There was a Tom.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yes it was Tom. Yes, Tom was your first friend
on Facebook. On MySpace when you added friends and there
was a top eight and people would fight over who
was in whose top eight friendless it was Anarchames. All right,
this is I've like given up on everybody. This is
the last question. And this is like still like prominent
(21:41):
to today. In nineteen ninety nine, June nineteen ninety nine,
the world changed when a nineteen and twenty year old
launched a peer to peer sharing website with the logo
of a cat with headphones. It became the first website
that millennials could illegally download music and share it. The
game the idea of streaming go at Will was it napster?
Was Napster? All right? I am shocked by Like, Colton,
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what were you doing in the night? I guess you
were barely alive in the nineties. I don't know, Colton.
You had zero Wiley, you had negative one Will, you
had zero Alex. This is like the only hope for
somebody to actually have Alex. You had two guys, two
out of sixteen. Okay, Alex is the winner. I appreciate
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you all for doing this kind it kind of it
was worse than I thought. I'm not gonna lie. It
was the worse than I thought it was. I'm not
gonna lie about it. But I am happy that I
at least tried. I'm gonna start instituting a movie and
music song of the month for any one of my employees,
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so anyone knows what I'm talking about. But I appreciate
you guys, and let's leap for doing it. Thank you
for coming on, Thank you, Ryan, Hi, congrats to Alex. Hey,
we'll be right back after this. Now it's time for
the Ask Me Anything segment of this podcast. If you
want a part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game podcast dot com. That's Ryan
(23:11):
at numbers Plural Game podcast dot com. And I think
it's only one today I have. I'm very backed up,
I know it. So if you've emailed me, I will
get to your question on this podcast before the end
of the year. Stay tuned, please stay, you know, keep listening.
I know that I've I know, I probably ten or
eleven I silin did to get to for the end
of the year, and they will all be answered. This
one comes from Tom. Tom says I'm a longtime listener,
(23:31):
but first time caller from Australia. Thank you Tom for
listening to this podcast for only from Australia. That's wonderful.
Thank you keep up the great work. I've been excited
listening to your podcast. For most Australian coverage of American
politics is just a slop ripped straight from New York Times,
MSNBC and CNN. Is not the truth. I actually know
a bit about Australian politics. I covered it in my
(23:51):
book that I wrote. A couple of years ago, and
I followed Australia had an election where the left one
a big, big victory, but also the right was very
splintered and their leadership wasn't that song? Okay, since apologies
and advances, I'm sure you've bombarded with questions in this
nature that will be over litigated over the coming years.
My question relates to the twenty twenty eight presidential election. Obviously,
usual coveys apply, it's still three years away and a
(24:12):
lot can happen between now and then. With that in mind,
I was wondering, from an electoral strategy standpoint in twenty
twenty eight, where do you see as the greatest opportunity
and threats for the Republican nomine a JD. Evans or
whoever it is, and vice versa for the Democrats. Keep
up the great work, tom, Okay, twenty twenty eight, it's
a very important presidential election, not we only deciding who
the president is going to be, but because it will
be the last presidential election where the Roust Belt will
(24:35):
seriously matter. Not that it won't matter at all, but
for the last few decades you needed to win several
Rostbelt states in order to sit there and get the
presidency or win a state like Virginia like George W.
Bush did. That's not going to be the case come
twenty thirty two. Because of how people are moving. States
like Florida and Texas are going to gain at least
(24:56):
eight more electoral College votes, while californ New York, Illinois
will lose. There will be enough electoral college votes in
the states of North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona, and
Nevada combined to offset all the other states where they
will be only swing states that matter come twenty thirty
two and afterwards. So as long as all those states
(25:18):
stay read, a Republican candidate would only need to win
the solid read state of Ohio, and this is extremely
likely right now for president. They won't have to win Wisconsin,
they won't have to win Pennsylvania or Michigan, the long
shot states of New Hampshire, Minnesota or wherever. It will
just be sunbelt, which will change. Also the politics of
things like tariffs and things like manufacturing states that are
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very heavily dependent on it historically versus ones that are
not heavily dependent on it, So twenty twenty eight will
matter for that reason for Republicans. I mean, obviously they're
going to start working with the Trump coalition. They're going
to start working with what states Trump wanted to see
if they can keep any on the board. With inflation
and with the housing issue and with just the cost
of living, States like Nevada, states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and
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Wisconsin will all be on the ballot. Also, the demographic
changes in Georgia will play a very big hand. Georgia's
population Black population has grown substantially, and that especially in
the Atlanta suburbs, and that will alter how competitive it stays.
It's very clearly trending to the left. How long does
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a trend to the left. How much of the rural
black vote which has been trending to the rights from
a few parts of Georgia that's been trending the right,
the Black belt of Georgia. Can they move that over more?
Can they have turnout increases more? Southern Georgia is votes,
has a lot more vote potential than Northern Georgia does,
Like the Marjorie Taylor Green District, There's not I mean,
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Republicans can do maybe a little better, maybe a hair better,
but they've basically maxed out of that area. Southern Georgia
is where they have to sit there and grab the
votes from to offset Atlanta, so that would be a problem.
North carol is changing dramatically as people move there in big,
big waves. North Carolina, I think is the electors like
five or six percent Hispanic now, which is interesting. The
Research Triangle has brought a lot of college educated people there.
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Appalachia State has changed the western part of that state.
So North Carolina will continue to be competitive going forward.
It will definitely a state to pay attention to, especially
since they have a democratic governor, a lot of Democrats
in you know, in state wide office positions that will
try to move and influence the state. And then there's
the three big restpel states, which is Pennsylvania, Michigan, and
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Minnesota and Wisconsin. Trump won Wisconsin by less than one
point he and won the other two by less than
two points. The Muslim vote in Michigan will play an
immensely important role in this election, as will be the
suburban vote. Suburban women have historically not liked Donald Trump
that much. A lot of historically moderate places like western Michigan,
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Big Dutch Country have not liked Trump that much can
JD reverse some of those trends a little bit, like
in the Dutch area of western Michigan Kenny Cold Onto
Bucks County, which is a critical swing county, while while
bringing out people like an eerie Pennsylvania or in the
suburbs of Pittsburgh in the working working class parts of
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the state, working class white parts of the state. One
interesting about Pennsylvania that will be different is that Pennsylvania
instituted a mandatory voter registration when you renew your license.
So in twenty sixteen when Trump ran, there were millions
and I'm talking millions of non college educated whites who
were not registered to vote in Pennsylvania. That is starting
(28:38):
to pick up substantially as they're registering to vote. They're
kind of forced to register to vote. So there'll be
a lot more there for Trump, for JD, or for
Rubio for whoever, to really pick off of like the
base of the Republican Party. As for Democrats, look, democrats
essential problem is that they've had an issue turning out
black voters the way that Obama did for obvious reasons,
(29:02):
right he was the first black president, but even at
bringing them out at Joe Biden levels, was proven difficult
for both Hillary and Kamala. Having to re engage black
voters will be a critical part of whoever the Democratic nominees'
strategy is, as well as the question of if the
Democrats pick a far left candidate. Many believe that they'll
just gin up the base and that will be enough
(29:24):
to sit there and bring out anybody. But for as
many times as that's been successful, it's been as unsuccessful
many in dozens of other cases, and these very typically
swing but conservative areas will be a question. You know,
Barack Obama was a very important figure in our history
because the first black president, but there were a lot
of demographics waiting for that to happen. I don't think
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that those demographics are necessarily waiting for the first gay president,
or for the first Latina president, or for the first
you know a lot of other people in groups interest groups.
I would probably be willing to bet that the Democrats
will not have a woman as their nominee in twenty
twenty eight. I'm just guessing. I don't obviously know ahead
of time. I think the one big question for Democrats
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for their vulnerabilities going forward is where do Democrats start
their election I've talked about this over and over and
over again. If Democrats start the election process, the primary
process in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, any of those places,
the opening will be there for Bernie Sanders and AOC
are very very far left socialist to win the nomination
(30:29):
because those are district those are states that the Democratic
voters in those states are more willing to move to
the far left. If it starts in South Carolina, if
it starts in Georgia, if they start in the Deep South,
those black majority voting states in the Democratic primary, they
vote for the more conservative candidate in almost every single case.
That is, the states that gave us Bill Clinton and
(30:49):
gave us Joe Biden, and you know, have always kind
of ticked to the center of the party. They don't
like progressives, and they're certainly not going to vot for
people to judge who's pulling out a zero percent with
black voters. I think all of that is interesting. I
would like to sit there and see you how that
how that shakes out. Obviously, we have a long time.
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We don't know where the economy is going to be.
We don't know where if there's an international incident hopefully
there won't be. We don't know if there'll be, you know,
another COVID or whatever the case is. We don't. There's
a lot we don't know. It's hard to sit there
and play out, you know, which if there's gonna be
a surprise, we don't. We have no clue there will
be a surprise. But that being said, I think that
it's very likely that the traditional swing states will be
most of the effort that everyone will spend their time on,
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and JD or Rubio, whoever it will be, will have
to pick off one of the russ Belt states. And
that's why I think Trump was in Pennsylvania over the
weekend or over the week rather, and I expect that
both Trump and every perspective Republican will spend a lot
of time in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the titular swing state.
So that's that. Hope you enjoy this podcast. Please like
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Christmas season and I will be back on Monday. Thank you,
Welcome back to a numbers game. A Ryan Gridoski, Thank
you guys for being here. This is going to be
a fun episode. I have some very special guests, my
gen Z employees, who ladies and gentlemen. They are going
to come on the show because over the last year
working with them, I have realized that I am getting
old and that they do not understand most things that
I am talking about when I bring up a reference
(00:23):
to culture or music or movies, and I want to
see how much they actually know. I want to know
if they know on earth what I'm talking about. So
it's to my amusements to your music. And they've all
volunteered to do this, no one's being forced to. We're
going to make a game out of it. It's about
it's going to be about gen X and millennial culture.
So it's going to be great. And if you like
this episode, please think that liking and subscribing on the
(00:44):
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, wherever you get this podcast.
Before I get to that, I do want to break
down some important data that came out. The CDC is
finally released because of the government shutdown, finally released birth
data into our country. For the last two months, and
we have more evidence that Trump's mass deportations are working.
In September and October twenty twenty five, there were sixteen
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thousand fewer births by women foreign born women, women who
were born outside of the United States than there were in
the previous September and October of twenty twenty four. The
percentage of babies born to foreign women has decreased from
twenty five percent in January of this year to twenty
three percent in October. That may not seem like a
major change, but it's a big get the complete opposite
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trajectory of where things were going. Interestingly, it's decreased in
forty one states the overall birth rate of foreign born women,
and the few states that it has increased in it
is because the population of foreign born women is so
small that one or two extra children here there produces big,
you know, turnaround percentage wise. But for forty one out of
fifty states, I mean, there's this broad movement of form
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and born women having less children. It's one more data
set showing that the population of form born people, especially
illegal immigrants, has declined. There's an over decline because of
this massive emphasis on self deportation. Right, President Trump hasn't
deported you know, ten million people, but millions have left.
And what I sit on this podcast months ago, and
(02:12):
what I said on my substack is that you would
see this as evidence in the data as time went on.
Like if you're an illegal immigrant and you're eight months
pregnant over in March or April, you're not gonna self
deport You're gonna hang around to have your baby get
American citizenship and then when they're eighteen, they could sponsor you.
It makes complete sense. But if you weren't pregnant then,
or if you were only one month or whatever the
(02:32):
case is, you may just go on your own say
this is not worth it. And so they're self deporting.
And there's been a few things. There's the Bureau of
Labor Statistics, there's a census. But this is just one
more data set's showing it is true. Mass deportation is working.
The illegal alien and form born population is decreasing by
about two million People's what we're guessing, so viet the
(02:53):
net negative population growth for the first time. It's also
evidence while you're seeing rents in some of these places
decline over last four months. This deep decline really though,
kicks in in the last three months. Right in the
last three months is where you're seeing this spike happen
as mass deportations pick up. So the early estimates is
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that there's about six hundred and three thousand berths from
September to September and October twenty twenty five. That's a
three percent reduction over last year. Not immense, but it's
not easily evenly distributed. Among non Hispanic whites, it's down
one point one percent. Among American Indians, it's down four
point seven. Among Latino's big one, big illegal alien population,
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it's dound five point three. Black Americans are down five
point four. Asians, also a big formal population, are down
six percent. The only group that is increasing in fertility
and births are multi racial They're up by three point
nine percent. Now. Even though berths are down slightly, the
percentages are increasing for certain groups, especially whites, because they
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decline the least of all other major groups. The black
birth rate, which is heavily American born, they've been plunging
like it's almost it should be studied by sociologists. They're
very well likely going to be under twelve percent of
the overall birth next year, which is pretty shocking given
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how say they were for so long in the birthdaya
going back to the nineties. And that's because of many
different things. A lot of conservatives will say it's because
of abortion, and abortion plays, you know, a part of it.
So does contraception. But there's also higher levels of college
education among Black women. College education is one of the
major determining factors of whether or not you're going to
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have children later on in life versus earlier. And there's
mass decline in teen pregnancy. When I was a kid,
teen pregnancy was very common. Teen pregnancy is almost completely
like it doesn't happen almost at all anymore, especially among
Latino and Black women. That group has fallen substantially, as
has fertility across the board. And of course there is
(05:03):
the question of affordability, and people are putting off having
a child because it's unaffordable right now, all those things
are playing into the factors, especially among Black women and
how few children that they are having. It's a strange
phnomenon that is happening to such a degree now because
it was huge in the last two years and it's
continuing at pace. In this year, I'm going to do
a true nerd fest on the birth data for my substack.
(05:25):
If you guys want to check it out, a national
populist newsletter on substack. It'd be very interesting. I might
do a whole episode gearing into the end of the year.
I'm going to have a religion episode as we get
closer to Christmas time with my priest, my priest father,
and Nick who's agreed to come on the show. And
we have a few other fun episodes. But this is
I think a data set getting into really where things
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are moving culturally. There's a lot of things that play
people decide to have a child. Affordability is one of them,
culture is one of them. How desirable it is to
have kids as a preference. Religions another one. So there's
a lot to kind of decipher from this information. I
can't wait to sit there and really break it down
for you guys. That'll be on my sub second I'll
probably cover for the podcast. Okay, enough of this data,
(06:08):
I want to get to the fun stuff. I want
to quiz my employees on what they know about millennial
and gen X culture. My gen Z employee, So stay tuned.
That's coming up next. So this is a very exciting
episode of my podcast. We have on my team, my
gen Z team, to talk about different things that happened
when I was a kid, for millennials and Gen xers
(06:30):
because a lot of times I've noticed over the last
year that I've been working with these guys that they
don't know what I'm talking about, and I thought this
would be fun, So we have on my show today
we have on my employees, Will Wiley, Alex and Colton.
Thank you all for being here. By way, they were
not forced to be here. They all volunteered to be here.
So the way it's going to work is this. We're
(06:51):
going to break down to three different categories, sixteen questions.
You guys get a point if you get it correctly
the question correctly, you lose one if you get it incorrectly.
The winner at the end gets a pro gy. So
the first category will be music. Say, I know you
guys are all excited about all these songs I picked,
by the way, were number one hits. They were not.
I didn't pick number seven on a random CD. These
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were all every one of my generation and a little
older knew all of these songs. So all right, mister producer,
go to slot one of song one children, that's what
they say one was again and watch.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They don't understand.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
So anyone who knows the answer, not a clue, nothing, Alex, Alex,
you listen to music.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, that's so Kate Bush.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kate, but no it is not Kate Bush Culton anything
that you could guess. Okay, that is Tiffany. The song
is called I Think We're Alone Now. It was a
before there was Britney Spears, before there's Sprinting Carpenter, there
was there was Tiffany, biggest solo teen pop girl of
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the eighties. All right, getting off to a great start.
But Alex, thank you for giving a shot. Second song,
go to it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You want to know.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Pol really okay? Song Mark Marky Mark is Mark Wohlberg.
I was like, okay, it's the famous person. You guys
were definitely gonna know, at least to the actors before
(09:02):
he was an actor singer. I'm actually so happy that
you know one thing. Yeah, I've been to his burger joint.
Is that how you know who he is? Yeah? He
was a rapper and his brother was on New Kids
on the Block. I was gonna pick new Kids on
the block. But literally the song is the the only
line in the entire show, and the entire song is
(09:24):
just the lyrics is the name of it. So I
was like, this is gonna be too weazy. Okay, we're
down with the eighties. That was good. Vibrat sorry nineteen
ninety one, that was early nineties, all right. Third song,
go to it? Okay, huge band min nineties, two super
(10:01):
big albums that they came out with, banger after banger.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But you've heard that before? Where have you heard that?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well? In like restaurants?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
MM.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So your parents just didn't tell you when they failed you. Okay,
what anybody? No, anybody else want to take a stab
at that cultivat like Aha it is not Aha No.
Aha was from the eighties and they were a one
hit wonder. This band had a bunch of other heads.
Alex anything this from Ace of Bass. Yes, that is true,
(10:36):
that is As of Bass. I saw the sign all right, Alex,
look at you. Alex likes music. So I figured, okay,
this is gonna be an Alex come at the moment
right now. So all right, uh three more, here we go.
This was one of my favorite favorite songs. I was
a kid. It was a one hit wonder, but it
was like a chart topper and it's a banger. So okay,
(10:56):
next one's lot four. Have a history of ALM sure
gets one days you looked at me crazy, five days
you tackled me ones on both Monday, three the afternoon
my fault too soon, you said you've forgiven me.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So you say your.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Song, all right, give it a shot. Yeah, Alex that
one week? Yeah, do you know the artists something ladies,
bare naked ladies. Wow, Alex, there you go, very excited.
All right, very cool. All right, we got alex Is
on a roll right now. Okay, all right, two more.
(11:37):
We're getting later into the so this is like the
two thousand now, so you guys were all alive at
this point, which is I guess a musk for anyone
to know his music. Okay, I'm sure everyone's gonna know
the next one, but go ahead, let me know if
you know the remember that an aged man?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, maybe street boys. Bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That is not bye bye bye. Literally, the words were
not bye bye bye like you just heard them, and
the old lyrics of bye bye bye are those words?
I mean, how did you. Oh my god, Wiley, like,
what are you talking about? No, no, it was not.
In fact, the name of the band is in the video,
but that was in men's confidence. I appreciate that. Anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, isn't it? Yes? Okay? I always looks way different now,
no age, okay, But.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
What the name of the song? Do you ever know
this song?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It was a girlfriend It is not girl for that
was by Justin Bieber, an entirely different person.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
No, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
No, it's not okay, So it was it's gonna be made.
But all right, we're no, you weren't okay. Last song,
last part of the music thing. This was in the
mid two thousands, another one hit wonder but definitely when
like emo ish rock music was a big thing in
the two thousands. This is what I listened to. Not
(13:17):
this long, but you know, I listened to emo throughout
my entire teen years. I had a lot of Guideliner
going on. This was the biggest song of that genre.
So last one, go ahead, Wait, we got the song,
(13:41):
go ahead? What's that? What is it? Alex? There you go? Okay?
So Alex knew, yeah, that was the biggest one. I
loved emo music like but there's mostly didn't ever chart
didn't go anywhere, so I couldn't like, I couldn't bring
up like Motion City soundtrack recthing. You guys have never
heard of it, So okay, leave in the first round,
Wiley's that negative one. Alex is at negative one, negative one,
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and Alex is at negative one as well, so and
Will and Colton are tied for zero. So let's hopefully
they bring up something on the board whatsoever. Okay, So
these are some big movies and I wump movies and
TV shows in together. Right, I'm gonna describe it. I'll
tell you some either director or actor was in it.
(14:25):
Tell me if you can name it, and then let
me know if you've ever seen it. So the first
one is about it's there's a huge movie nineteen eighty
five by John Hughes. Five Teenagers are Stuck in Detention.
It is a classic staples of gen X eighties movies.
Five teenager. You go, okay, well we'll go Alex. You
go first, because you raise your hand first.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
The breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
There you go, Okay, that was Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Will?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You did? Okay, all right, so at least you know Colton,
did you ever see any movies.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I've seen Breakfast Club before. I couldn't think of
the name. I was taking detention or something, but it
was something.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Okay, all right, so this is all right, classic staple
eighties movie. I think everyone has probably seen at this point.
It's plays on like TBS a lot or something like that.
All right, next question. This was a nineteen ninety five movie.
It was a retelling of Jane Austen's book Emma. It
starred Alicia Silverstone, who tries to out of two teachers
who are falling in love while she's falling in love
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with her stepbrother. Classic classic nineties movie, Lisia Silverstone. Cast hint,
what can we get more? Cast hints Alicia Silverstone. She's
the main part in it. Okay, Okay, I don't know.
Brittany Murphy is also in it, but she's passed away
(15:42):
since then. Anyone, guests take a guest take a stab
at high school nineties? You know, as If was like
a huge line in the movie that became something rolling
with the homies anything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh, I've heard people say as If before.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
No, that's just in general conversation. You've probably heard that,
but like, have you like it's pink. No, it's not
bringing the pink, but I get I thank you for trying.
Anyone else called in Anything nothing Okay, it's called clueless.
Oh have you ever heard that moving? Yes, you've have
you seen that moving? That's more like that's it. I
(16:24):
know it's it's but it's a nineties like it's never mind. Okay,
all right. This is the TV show from the nineties.
Hope it's done better. It's a huge classic that millennials
and Gen X was watched.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
It was about the main characters, a guy named Corey,
his best friend Shawn, and his girlfriend Topanga as they
went through high school and college and marriage together. This
was on first seven seasons, huge, huge growing up show.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Freaks and Geeks.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
No, okay, but freaking geeks. I'm actually even shocked. You
know the name of so that's a big deal. In
Anything it was Musty No, nothing will.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Three high schoolers. No, every time you say high school,
I'm gonna guest breakfast club.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Okay, but that's not the answer. All the time. Alex
is a boy beats World. It is boy meets World Alex. Yes, okay,
you never heard of Boy Meets World. They had a
sequel cold Girl meets World but his daughter, Yeah, Ben Savage,
I was to remember it. Okay, all right, I figured
out right, there's another TeV. This show was what I
(17:29):
watched every day before he was a superstar. I'm breaking bad.
Brian Cranston played a dysfunctional suburban dad named Hal who
tried to make ends meet with his working class wife
Lois and their four kids, Francis, Reyese, Malcolm, and Dewey. Okay, Wiley,
go ahead, Actually, okay, I was gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Did you guys know that show.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Him in the middle? Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did you know that Will?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh you did? Okay, Wow, all right, good, I grew
up watching that. All right. Last movie, last one from
this category. It's a millennial teen movie. It's a coming
of age masterpiece where a character named fol gets a
fake ID called the name McLevin. Okay, we'll go.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Ahead, and super bad.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
There you go. I'm gonna have Will. One can't get
faster with the questions, Colton, did you see that movie?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, I've never seen mc loveth or never seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, it's a good one. It's it's definitely it's got
a lot of like Emma Stones first movie. It's a
cool mid two thousand's definitely millennial movie. All Right, I'm
gonna do five questions on world events. This is things
that definitely steeped in gen X and millennial culture that
we all remember, like it where we were, what like
(18:45):
what happened? All right? This is the first one, and
this is I wasn't even alive for this, but it was.
I even know about it because it was so famous.
In nineteen eighty six, a little girl, an eighteen month
old girl, fell down a fell down a well, and
for fifty eight hours, the entire media covered her rescue.
What was that baby girl's name? Yes, it was literally
one of the first news stories that was ever breaking
(19:07):
news where it was covered minute by minute. Before there
was like CNN and everyone covered everything minute by minute.
This was like the breaking news. Are they going to
get this little girl out of the well? This huge
America story was in Texas, not that any of you
guys are in Texas, but now nothing you ever heard
of baby Jessica. Guys, it was huge. I can't even
I can't emphasize this, but like it was a big,
(19:29):
big deal, all right. In nineteen ninety eight, when the
world was shocked when this Spice Girl announced that she
was going to leave the band after just two albums
and a tour in a movie? Who was the Spice
Girl that broke up the band? And it made go ahead? Will?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's not Ice Spice, is it?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Ice Spice is not a person. If that is a person,
it is not a person in a band.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Will.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I don't know who Ice Spice even is? Is that
a rap?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
They're at contemporary artist?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, and you think that they were around in the
nineties and the Spice Girls. Okay, now it wasn't Cole
Alex go Ahead and what was it?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Ginger?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It was Ginger Spice. Alex is like the one who's
in there and throwing stuff? Colton. Did you ever hear
of the Spice Girls?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I've heard of them?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yes, okay, all right, well she was the one that
broke up the band, all right. In nineteen ninety seven
and two thousand, Camel and Marlborough cigarettes retired their classic
brand ambassadors. Can you name either one of them? Go Ahead?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Will was one of them, the Marlborough Man, the Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, Marlboro Man and Joe Cammel. Those were like the
two we used to be able to advertise on cigarettes
back in the day. Like not on television because that
was even before me, but like on billboards you could
advertise and Joe Camel and Marlboro Man were like the
image of like the cowboy and like cool Joe Cammel
if you smoked cigarettes, which you know, we all know
you were cool for smoking cigarettes. All right. Last two.
(21:01):
Before there was Facebook, there was MySpace. And when you
made a MySpace account, the creator was your first friend.
Who was the creator of MySpace? What was his first name?
He would go at will was it? It is not
Joe Carlton. I feel like this is the one that
you're gonna get now, Alex.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
There was a Tom.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yes it was Tom. Yes, Tom was your first friend
on Facebook. On MySpace when you added friends and there
was a top eight and people would fight over who
was in whose top eight friendless it was Anarchames. All right,
this is I've like given up on everybody. This is
the last question. And this is like still like prominent
(21:41):
to today. In nineteen ninety nine, June nineteen ninety nine,
the world changed when a nineteen and twenty year old
launched a peer to peer sharing website with the logo
of a cat with headphones. It became the first website
that millennials could illegally download music and share it. The
game the idea of streaming go at Will was it napster?
Was Napster? All right? I am shocked by Like, Colton,
(22:06):
what were you doing in the night? I guess you
were barely alive in the nineties. I don't know, Colton.
You had zero Wiley, you had negative one Will, you
had zero Alex. This is like the only hope for
somebody to actually have Alex. You had two guys, two
out of sixteen. Okay, Alex is the winner. I appreciate
(22:28):
you all for doing this kind it kind of it
was worse than I thought. I'm not gonna lie. It
was the worse than I thought it was. I'm not
gonna lie about it. But I am happy that I
at least tried. I'm gonna start instituting a movie and
music song of the month for any one of my employees,
(22:48):
so anyone knows what I'm talking about. But I appreciate
you guys, and let's leap for doing it. Thank you
for coming on, Thank you, Ryan, Hi, congrats to Alex. Hey,
we'll be right back after this. Now it's time for
the Ask Me Anything segment of this podcast. If you
want a part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game podcast dot com. That's Ryan
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at numbers Plural Game podcast dot com. And I think
it's only one today I have. I'm very backed up,
I know it. So if you've emailed me, I will
get to your question on this podcast before the end
of the year. Stay tuned, please stay, you know, keep listening.
I know that I've I know, I probably ten or
eleven I silin did to get to for the end
of the year, and they will all be answered. This
one comes from Tom. Tom says I'm a longtime listener,
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but first time caller from Australia. Thank you Tom for
listening to this podcast for only from Australia. That's wonderful.
Thank you keep up the great work. I've been excited
listening to your podcast. For most Australian coverage of American
politics is just a slop ripped straight from New York Times,
MSNBC and CNN. Is not the truth. I actually know
a bit about Australian politics. I covered it in my
(23:51):
book that I wrote. A couple of years ago, and
I followed Australia had an election where the left one
a big, big victory, but also the right was very
splintered and their leadership wasn't that song? Okay, since apologies
and advances, I'm sure you've bombarded with questions in this
nature that will be over litigated over the coming years.
My question relates to the twenty twenty eight presidential election. Obviously,
usual coveys apply, it's still three years away and a
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lot can happen between now and then. With that in mind,
I was wondering, from an electoral strategy standpoint in twenty
twenty eight, where do you see as the greatest opportunity
and threats for the Republican nomine a JD. Evans or
whoever it is, and vice versa for the Democrats. Keep
up the great work, tom, Okay, twenty twenty eight, it's
a very important presidential election, not we only deciding who
the president is going to be, but because it will
be the last presidential election where the Roust Belt will
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seriously matter. Not that it won't matter at all, but
for the last few decades you needed to win several
Rostbelt states in order to sit there and get the
presidency or win a state like Virginia like George W.
Bush did. That's not going to be the case come
twenty thirty two. Because of how people are moving. States
like Florida and Texas are going to gain at least
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eight more electoral College votes, while californ New York, Illinois
will lose. There will be enough electoral college votes in
the states of North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona, and
Nevada combined to offset all the other states where they
will be only swing states that matter come twenty thirty
two and afterwards. So as long as all those states
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stay read, a Republican candidate would only need to win
the solid read state of Ohio, and this is extremely
likely right now for president. They won't have to win Wisconsin,
they won't have to win Pennsylvania or Michigan, the long
shot states of New Hampshire, Minnesota or wherever. It will
just be sunbelt, which will change. Also the politics of
things like tariffs and things like manufacturing states that are
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very heavily dependent on it historically versus ones that are
not heavily dependent on it, So twenty twenty eight will
matter for that reason for Republicans. I mean, obviously they're
going to start working with the Trump coalition. They're going
to start working with what states Trump wanted to see
if they can keep any on the board. With inflation
and with the housing issue and with just the cost
of living, States like Nevada, states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and
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Wisconsin will all be on the ballot. Also, the demographic
changes in Georgia will play a very big hand. Georgia's
population Black population has grown substantially, and that especially in
the Atlanta suburbs, and that will alter how competitive it stays.
It's very clearly trending to the left. How long does
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a trend to the left. How much of the rural
black vote which has been trending to the rights from
a few parts of Georgia that's been trending the right,
the Black belt of Georgia. Can they move that over more?
Can they have turnout increases more? Southern Georgia is votes,
has a lot more vote potential than Northern Georgia does,
Like the Marjorie Taylor Green District, There's not I mean,
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Republicans can do maybe a little better, maybe a hair better,
but they've basically maxed out of that area. Southern Georgia
is where they have to sit there and grab the
votes from to offset Atlanta, so that would be a problem.
North carol is changing dramatically as people move there in big,
big waves. North Carolina, I think is the electors like
five or six percent Hispanic now, which is interesting. The
Research Triangle has brought a lot of college educated people there.
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Appalachia State has changed the western part of that state.
So North Carolina will continue to be competitive going forward.
It will definitely a state to pay attention to, especially
since they have a democratic governor, a lot of Democrats
in you know, in state wide office positions that will
try to move and influence the state. And then there's
the three big restpel states, which is Pennsylvania, Michigan, and
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Minnesota and Wisconsin. Trump won Wisconsin by less than one
point he and won the other two by less than
two points. The Muslim vote in Michigan will play an
immensely important role in this election, as will be the
suburban vote. Suburban women have historically not liked Donald Trump
that much. A lot of historically moderate places like western Michigan,
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Big Dutch Country have not liked Trump that much can
JD reverse some of those trends a little bit, like
in the Dutch area of western Michigan Kenny Cold Onto
Bucks County, which is a critical swing county, while while
bringing out people like an eerie Pennsylvania or in the
suburbs of Pittsburgh in the working working class parts of
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the state, working class white parts of the state. One
interesting about Pennsylvania that will be different is that Pennsylvania
instituted a mandatory voter registration when you renew your license.
So in twenty sixteen when Trump ran, there were millions
and I'm talking millions of non college educated whites who
were not registered to vote in Pennsylvania. That is starting
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to pick up substantially as they're registering to vote. They're
kind of forced to register to vote. So there'll be
a lot more there for Trump, for JD, or for
Rubio for whoever, to really pick off of like the
base of the Republican Party. As for Democrats, look, democrats
essential problem is that they've had an issue turning out
black voters the way that Obama did for obvious reasons,
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right he was the first black president, but even at
bringing them out at Joe Biden levels, was proven difficult
for both Hillary and Kamala. Having to re engage black
voters will be a critical part of whoever the Democratic nominees'
strategy is, as well as the question of if the
Democrats pick a far left candidate. Many believe that they'll
just gin up the base and that will be enough
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to sit there and bring out anybody. But for as
many times as that's been successful, it's been as unsuccessful
many in dozens of other cases, and these very typically
swing but conservative areas will be a question. You know,
Barack Obama was a very important figure in our history
because the first black president, but there were a lot
of demographics waiting for that to happen. I don't think
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that those demographics are necessarily waiting for the first gay president,
or for the first Latina president, or for the first
you know a lot of other people in groups interest groups.
I would probably be willing to bet that the Democrats
will not have a woman as their nominee in twenty
twenty eight. I'm just guessing. I don't obviously know ahead
of time. I think the one big question for Democrats
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for their vulnerabilities going forward is where do Democrats start
their election I've talked about this over and over and
over again. If Democrats start the election process, the primary
process in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, any of those places,
the opening will be there for Bernie Sanders and AOC
are very very far left socialist to win the nomination
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because those are district those are states that the Democratic
voters in those states are more willing to move to
the far left. If it starts in South Carolina, if
it starts in Georgia, if they start in the Deep South,
those black majority voting states in the Democratic primary, they
vote for the more conservative candidate in almost every single case.
That is, the states that gave us Bill Clinton and
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gave us Joe Biden, and you know, have always kind
of ticked to the center of the party. They don't
like progressives, and they're certainly not going to vot for
people to judge who's pulling out a zero percent with
black voters. I think all of that is interesting. I
would like to sit there and see you how that
how that shakes out. Obviously, we have a long time.
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We don't know where the economy is going to be.
We don't know where if there's an international incident hopefully
there won't be. We don't know if there'll be, you know,
another COVID or whatever the case is. We don't. There's
a lot we don't know. It's hard to sit there
and play out, you know, which if there's gonna be
a surprise, we don't. We have no clue there will
be a surprise. But that being said, I think that
it's very likely that the traditional swing states will be
most of the effort that everyone will spend their time on,
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and JD or Rubio, whoever it will be, will have
to pick off one of the russ Belt states. And
that's why I think Trump was in Pennsylvania over the
weekend or over the week rather, and I expect that
both Trump and every perspective Republican will spend a lot
of time in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the titular swing state.
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