September 4, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode, Ryan and Amber Duke discuss the ongoing crime crisis in Washington DC, examining the statistics, the impact of policy choices on youth crime, and the broader implications for public safety and quality of life. They analyze the effectiveness of President Trump's approach to crime, the manipulation of crime statistics, and the socio-economic factors contributing to crime in urban areas. It's a Numbers Game is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back to a Numbers Game with Ryan Gardowsky. I
am taping this episode from Washington, d C. I got
to speak at the National Conservative Conference on Tuesday, so
I've been in d C. I have a lot of
DC kind of buzziness and hanging out with DC people.
It's a certain type of wavelength that I'm not usually on.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But I spoke too.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I spoke in d C at the conference about radical
Islam and immigration and if it was great, and I
want to thank the organization and his founder, Urim Hazoni
for having me. It was an honor to speak here.
I've never got invited before, so but it was very
funny what happened right But right after I spoke, I
got off the stage and someone who's been on this podcast,
the former guest of the podcast, walked up to me
(00:42):
and introduced himself because I had never met in real life,
and he goes, you know, do you remember me? I
was on your podcast. I'm not going to say his
name because I don't want to embarrass him, but he goes,
I was on your podcast. I go, oh, yeah, of course,
and then he just started talking to me about something
that I don't know. I was like I was kind
of interested in, but I wasn't super interesting, and I'm
must have been making a face and I didn't notice it,
(01:03):
and he goes, do you remember me, like I'm so,
and so I was like, oh no, I'm very well
aware of who I'm talking to.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right now, but I must have been making the phase
of I have no interest, which he interpret is I
have no idea who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I felt bad about that, not not my I just
didn't like. You know, sometimes you do something and you're
talking versus a long time, you just get so tired
of talking and you just don't want to do it anymore.
And I guess I was just in a moment, but
it was very funny. The overall point of the speech
that I said about Islam, radical Islam, and immigration is
that we as America are very lucky compared to Europe
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because we're not within walking distance of most Muslim countries,
and we when we experience a large wave of first
time Muslim immigrants or the first kind of wave of
any kind of Muslim immigrants in our country in the
nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, when a new culture is
coming to America that's exotic to the native culture. This
(02:03):
is not really relevant anymore because they're kind of all here,
But this is especially true in the seventies and eighties
and nineties, is that they like the first ones to
come have to be skills because you can really only
get here through very few visas, and the largest one
is family reunification. If you don't have family here, well
then you have to do it through occupation and skill.
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And so we got like the doctors and the engineers
and scientists and some very good Muslim immigrants when it
first began, and we were also seeing things like the
shah Fall, and a lot of moderates Muslims in the
aur were wanting to leave because they saw the way
that the world was changing there. That will come to
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an end though, as we have enough immigrants here now
that family reunification and family based chain migration will be
the predominant way we receive Muslims in this country. And
also there's a radical that has happened abroad. At the
same time, a part of excellence and immigration comes from scarcity.
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You want the population of recent immigrants to be low
as low as possible in comparison to the native nations population.
So here's a perfect example, if you had a choice
to live either in India or Mexico, you would want
to live in Mexico because for the average Mexican, the
average Mexican is wealthier and has a higher quality of
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life than the average Indian. Right But if you'd rather
be a Mexican or an Indian American, you'd rather be
an Indian American. They have much higher levels of college
degree and income and all the rest of it. Why
because we took in zero point three percent of India's
population and twenty eight percent of Mexico's population. So while
we got the cream from India, we have a lot
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of lower to middle, lower level quality populations from Mexico,
and that has reduced the mean Mexican Americans household, income,
college degree, everything closer to what it is in Mexico
than what it would be if we only took the
elites in and right now we only have the elites
of India. Basically, we don't have a lot of the
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people who would otherwise be you know, swimming in the
Gange River and bathing and bury their dead and washing
their clothes all in the same place. What has happened
with Moustlim immigration though is now we are going to
have more people. We have tons of refugees from like
Somalia in Afghanistan, but even from the other places, even
from the nice places. We're more and more getting chain
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migration through families. So we're going to get the deadbeat
cousin and uncle eventually who is susceptible to radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And that's all.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And also the spouses who they meet over there, who
they bring like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The Sam Bernardino shooter.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That is a problem for radical Islam. It's also a
problem for American Jews. And when I said in the podcast,
I said this on C ANDM, and I said this
with a I was on with Leah McGowan. Mcgou Yeah,
McGowan from she's some left wing political podcast hosts from Canada.
She's a very nice woman, but she's not she blinks
a lot. I'll just say she's like a woman who
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blinks a lot. So I said that there will be
by twenty thirty five more Muslim immigrants than there are
Jewish Americans, and they will live in more important swing states,
and that will change how politics is conducted in relation
to Middle East policy, but also other policies as well
around speech, around hate speech, around Sharia cities, around like
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a million other things. Because of mass immigration. You want scarcity.
You want only the best of the best of the
world to come here. Anyway, that was the whole speech.
That was what we talked about and and what I
talked about, and I thought it was a fairly good
and influential thing. I don't have a ton of numbers
for you guys this week. I've been been in DC
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for two weeks, especially post being sick with COVID, as
I mentioned in the last episode, and they've just DC's
like its own orbit and what they think people care about.
No one gives a vote about. I try to give
has a very clean By the way, I really don't swear,
so anyway, one number that I thought was fascinating that
I had never heard about before I heard about it
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this week. If you run for a federal office, or
you run a super pack like I do, you are
forbidden from getting donations from foreign entities and foreign donors. Right,
It's very well known. You can't get money from you know,
Saudias or Israelis or any or Russians or anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
If you're running for president or you're running for US Senate.
If you're running in the state legislatures, you can though
in many places, and more importantly than you just being
able to run for office and getting foreign money in
some places, if you have a state proposal and state
ballid initiative that can be funded by foreign money. There
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is an organization called the sixteen thirty Fund. Now I
had not been super aware of the sixteen thirty fund.
It is a left wing C four. A C four
is a nonprofit that can give a minority fifty to
forty nine percent of its money to political campaigns and packs.
It's not a tax right off, but it's like a
I don't know it's it's not a pack, and it's
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not a nonprofit's own thing. That's what they call dark
money groups. Dark money groups are basically C four because
you don't disclose where the money comes from. The biggest
donor to the sixteen thirty fund is a Swiss billionaire,
a liberal billionaire called hansgorg Wece. He is given hundreds
of millions of dollars to this sixteen thirty fund, and
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they have spent over two hundred and fifty million dollars
on ballot initiative to change state laws throughout the country
to promote progressive ideas on everything from abortion to taxes.
You name it, you run the gamut, and the sixteen
thirty Fund has had its fingers on the pull to
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try to change the way that our state governments work.
The way our laws work pertaining to the government affects
us the most, which is your state government affection more
than your federal government does. I did not know this,
but the states have started to actually reform the laws
and change the laws when it comes to how state
constitutions are protected from foreign interference. In twenty twenty four,
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Ohio was the very first state to ban any foreign
money from being used to change ballid initiatives. And this
last I think week and a half ago, there were
ten total states, one being Ohio.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
From last year.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Nine states have added to that this year. They are Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas,
and Wyoming all have passed new bans on foreign interference
into packs and other organizations being helped to sit there
and change your state constitution. Seventeen other states have also
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passed I sorry, I have proposed bans on this foreign money.
I think it's something that actually bipartisanship can really actually
take effect in I think that this is a place
where Republicans Democrats can come together because it seems that
fairly enough aarreaus that some billionaire from Switzerland and can
be pushing left wing issues. I mean, these are all
Republican states who have done this. But I think that
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I don't see why a Democrat would support this anyway.
We don't want They wouldn't like if Russia came in,
or if there was like an anti gay bill that
Saudi Arabia or you know, African country and anti LGBT
African country was getting involved in.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So I think that I think this is a great thing,
and I think this is really really progressed. I did
not know that this was the law, and I did
not know that states were really jumping on the bandwagon
to ban foreign money. So far Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kansas,
and Wyoming have banned it. Hopefully more will follow. I
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have a great interview today. It is with my very
good friend Amber Duke's by Amber eighth. I've known her
since before she was married. She's a whip smart reporter,
from the Daily Caller and she's actually an editor from
the Daily Caller. She'll be on to talk about Trump
with a National Guard and the National Guards been coming
in to sit there and reduce crime, and we'll have
a real conversation on crime in Washington, C and the
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country as a whole. A stay tuned for that coming
up next. So in the last.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Week, if you've seen the continued liberal outrage over one thing,
it is over the idea of President Troop. Let me
start that over again. If you have paid attention to
anything over the last week, the thing that liberals have
an outrage over is President Trump having National guardsmen in
Washingt d C. Here to discuss both their outrage and
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the statistics on crime both in our nation's capital and
broad nationwide, is Amber Duke of the Daily Caller. Amber,
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Thanks for having me Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So tell me about you live in the Washingt d C.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Area.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Is there a crime issue, first of all, that they
would even acknowledge it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yes, there's a major crime issue. And one of the
things that liberals and Democrats have been saying in response
to Trump's federalization of DC police in the efforts to
fight crime is that crime has been going down over
the past couple of years, which is a very misleading
way of characterizing the problem. For one, because the DC
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Police chief former police chief is currently under investigation for
manipulating crime statistics, including classifying violent crimes as non violent crimes.
We also have a problem where the DC attorneys will
deliberately lessen charges against suspects because they don't like to
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quote unquote over prosecute. This is a particular problem with
the SEE attorney who prosecutes youth crime. That person is
not selected by the president like the DC Attorney General is,
and so they are not someone who was chosen by
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Trump and is very tough on crime. The other problem
is that crime skyrocketed in the DC area in twenty
twenty during the pandemic, and so if you say, well,
numbers are down between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four,
it's like, okay, well down from one of their highest
peaks since the nineteen nineties. Right. And then one final
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issue with DC crime is that, like most cities, you
typically expect that a lot of the crime is going
to be concentrated in specific areas, meaning there are things
that you can do typically to avoid becoming a victim.
Don't go to anacostia, particularly at night, don't walk around
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alone at night by yourself, stay away from CD areas,
don't join a gang, et cetera, et cetera. These are
all sort of common sense things that most city drillers
will do to avoid becoming crime victims. In DC, since
the pandemic, we have seen crime become more randomized, meaning
it's spread out across the city into wealthier enclaves, into
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areas that were typically considered safe, and is done by
sort of roving gangs of illegal aliens and youth offenders.
So people feel more unsafe because it seems like their
ability to become a victim is much more random and
less tied directly to their behavior.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I have been in New York my entire life. I
was followed and attempted to be mugged one time, as
followed I think two or three times in all of
New York and thirty something in year thirty six years
that I was a full time resident New York. In DC,
I have been followed more times than Noll thirty six
years in New York, and I've never lived here. I've
only come here like on trips for work for a
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week at a time, and I have had more incidences,
including in broad daylight in well poppeded area around Chinatown.
I've seen a live shooting in Chinatown. I've seen way
more crime, like actual, like really violent crime in broad
daylight in Washington, d C. Than I ever saw in
New York. Now, maybe I lived a very uh glamorous life,
(14:26):
but I grew up in New York in the early nineties.
So when where it's two thousand murders a year in
New York, like, I mean, I saw like I was
there when it was really bad. Granted I was a child,
but throughout my teen years everywhere, I never saw crime
like I saw it in DC. Just the open amount
of crazy people who talk to themselves, who are allowed
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to roam the streets and a cost people is startling.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's actually startling.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And the amount of kids who should be in school
who seem to be like out and just around and
it's the middle of the day and you're like, why
is there no school for these roaming black kids seems
kind of insane to me. And a big part of
this is, you know, with big balls being attacked the
(15:14):
Doge staffer being attacked and him being attacked by it
was black teenagers has changed this for Washington c Now,
I think there's only been one murder in two weeks
since President Trump launched the National Guard. Has crime overall
gone down aside from murder.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, pretty significantly. Actually, I have the numbers here in
front of we. This is a two week comparison from
August eleventh to August twenty fifth, and we have the
numbers from twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, and twenty
twenty five, all the same two week period. Of course,
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the twenty twenty five two week period is after Trump
said in the National Guard. Between this two week period
in twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, we have
seen carjackings go down ninety six percent, robberies down sixty
eight percent, homicide down sixty seven percent, all violent crime
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down fifty two percent, and burglary down forty seven percent.
Total crime actually down twenty one percent. And when we
compare the same period of time between twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty four, where Democrats say, well, crime was
already declining, Yes, but not as much as it has
since Trump federalized the DC police. Carjackings between that time
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period twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four went down
thirty five percent. Again, between twenty twenty four and twenty
twenty five it was ninety six percent. Robberies went down
forty six percent compared to sixty eight percent, homicides down
forty percent to sixty seven percent. So was crime trending
in the right direction? I mean yes, technically, but obviously
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not enough, not to the degree that it needed to
in order for citizens to feel safe. And numbers don't lie.
I mean that's sort of the premise of this show,
and the numbers are very clear here that Trump's approach
to crime and DC is working.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I last night, well on crime, when you mentioned
twenty twenty, there's crime in recent history in America. There
are two chapters. There's from nineteen ninety to twenty thirteen,
where crime nationwide was decreasing everywhere, and then BLM happens
with Ferguson in twenty fifteen and crime goes up. It
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kind of stays around the same place, but it's up
from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty. Then George Flood happens,
BLM happens on you know, meth like this is severoids
rather and like the crime explodes, and it's been weaning
down from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two numbers.
It is, to my knowledge, in most parts of the country,
it is never returned to twenty fourteen numbers. Most when
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you look at most violent crime, the reason that violent
crime has declined specifically as a percentage is because burglaries
and robberies are considered a form of violent crime. Because
of home alarm systems and home cameras, that has really
caused a massive decrease in that specific field of crime,
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right while rapes have gone up in a lot of areas,
or like non violent crimes, which are fairly violent nonetheless,
but like assault is considered actually not a violent crime,
but assault has gone up, like in the New York area,
for example. What liberals like to sit there and say,
I was watching actually Ben Shapiro on Ampi Phillips's show yesterday,
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and I was texting afterwards, but she was like, well,
his National guardsmen are not actually patrolling the streets to
stop crime in the high crime areas. But to my knowledge,
and maybe I'm wrong, his goal is to have them in.
The lesser crime that the policeman could go to, the
more there'd be more cops and the more criminal ayers.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's correct, That's exactly right. Because the DC Police, it's
the Metropolitan Police Department is what it's called MPD. They
are severely understaffed right now. They've been offering like ten
twenty thousand dollars signing bonuses for years now to try
to staff up the police force and really haven't had
much luck because who wants to work for a police
force when sixty seven percent of the crimes that you
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arrest people for are not charged by the top prosecutor
who was appointed by Joe Biden. Now things are a
little bit different now, but you still again have the
DC Attorney General who does all youth crime, who's not
really prosecuting or under prosecuting a lot of these kids.
They're back out on the street every day. Who wants
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to work for that police department. So when you have
a limited amount of resources, having the National Guard there
to patrol George Town on M Street or to be
Navy Yard allows the police that you do have, particularly
the more experienced police officers, to focus on the neighborhoods
where the crime originates, which are typically in the southeast
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quadrant of DC across the and Acostia River.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
So in response to this, President Trump has also talked
about He's gonna sit National Guarden to Chicago, and the
governor of Illinois is like, they just had fifty shootings
over a weekend in Chicago, and it's Chicago has like
I hate to say, they we're comically high crime, but
it is. It is preposterously high for a big city
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in twenty twenties and has for a long time. It
kind of didn't have the real New York LA shift
in the nineties the way that other cities did, Like
they do have more. I think they have more murders
than New York does, and you're so much bigger city.
The thing is is so the governor is like, oh,
this is just normal to live in a big city.
Is there's a lot of shootings, and I don't I
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think the opposing the idea of setting National guardsmen in
what is the status? I mean, can you just do
that and be like sorry, like this is I'm setting
my National guardsmen? There's no you have no options.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, the president is in control of that, Like
typically you would want the state to acquiesce to a
national guard coming in, but we saw this in Los Angeles, right,
He doesn't actually need the governor's permission in order to
do that. The Constitution, by the way, says to UH
that it's the federal government's job to have domestic tranquility.
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So it seems pretty clear to me that he has
the authority to do it. And I always find it
bizarre when Democrats say, well, this is just part of
living in a big city, like it doesn't have to
be though. That's a choice, that's that's a specific policy
choice that you've made that you're okay with a certain
number of people dying because you don't want to do
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the more difficult thing that actually requires manpower and resources
and good policy, which is to make sure that you
are cracking down on criminals, which, by the way, in
most big cities, and particularly in DC, most of the
crime happens from a very small number of individuals. You
actually don't have to do that much policing in order
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to get crime down. You just have to arrest the
right people. In DC, one of the former police chiefs,
not the same one who was accused of manipulating the
crime statistics. But Chief Robert Conti, he said a few
years back that the average homicide suspect in DC had
committed eleven priors. Eleven priors, and I mean, I think
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most people would probably scoff at the idea that all
of those priors, all eleven were petty, you were non
violent or in some way not deserving of this person
getting significant prison time. So again that's a choice. DC
City Council also made a lot of choices over the
years to make it easier for young people to get
away with crimes. When we see fourteen year olds carjacking
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an uber driver and killing him, it's because they have
deprioritized prosecution of young people. Charles Allen, who is one
of the DCCD council members, he's actually a transplant from Alabama,
I believe, was the author of a lot of these
criminal justice reform measures, which I don't even like that
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phrase because it doesn't really mean anything. But what he
did was he first introduced a bill that would make
it so that the most violent youth offenders, who are
the ones that actually get prosecuted in adult criminal court
because they've done things like murders, or rapes could get
out in fifteen years if they basically showed good behavior
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in prison and a judge said that their conditions merited
their release. Then he amended it and it got a
lot worse. He amended it so that the youth offender,
the definition of a youth who was tried in court
was anyone up to the age of twenty five, So
not even miners at this point, full blown adults, people
who can drink, serve the military, et cetera, vote, all
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of those things. Those individuals not could get out in
ten years now instead of fifteen, but shall get out
in ten years. The judges are not even allowed now
to look at these circumstances of the crime. They're not
allowed to consider anything about the offender's background. If they
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meet these specific conditions as laid out in the bill
under the age of twenty five, have served ten years,
haven't done anything bad while they're in prison, so to speak,
the judge has to issue their release. So you could
rape someone when you're twenty five years old in DC
and get out when you are thirty five years old.
That is insanity.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's crazy. And I mentioned Levin priors. The overwhelming
majority of violent criminals have at least three priors, and
that's why three that's why the idea three strike rules.
In two thousand and one, there was a study by
the RAND Corporation that looked at California's three strike rules
and found that it did reduce violent crime by twenty percent.
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Because that's I mean, that is true. I think in
New York, I think in the name is in d C.
DC was like, if you arrest like the top one
hundred violent criminals, you would and put them away for
life whatever. You would reduce violent crime by like our
shootings by like fifty percent. And the thing it was
for New Year, it was like two hundred and fifty
or three hundred, I forget the exact number, but it was.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was. It was a shockingly small amount of people
who were doing the overwhelming amount of shootings and overwhelming
targeting Black Americans too, when you know, in the name
of anti racism, they all be left out to shoot
more black people?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Is crime?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is the truth? In crime?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
In crime in Chicago? Are they claiming that, oh a
crime is down anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, it's the exact same refrain we've heard in DC,
and you started to get into this a little bit
earlier with the way that they manipulate statistics to show
crime decreases. One of the other important things to look
at is there's basically two methods of tracking crime in
the United States. One is the FBI Crime Database, which
is what most people use when they're looking at crime statistics,
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and it could be relatively helpful if you're looking at
the same measures year after year. But of course, people
classify crimes differently in different states and different localities, and
some states are prosecuting crimes as one thing and another
state's prosecuting it as something else, right like reducing the charges,
et cetera, making a lot of plea deals like we
see with the Soros prosecutors. But the other database that
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people often look at to really understand crime in its
totality is the National Crime Victimization Survey, which is a
survey that allows self reporting from victims of crime. And
what this does is it helps capture under reporting and
under prosecution, because in places like DC and Chicago, when
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you have very progressive prosecutors and politicians in charge, you
have people not calling the police when they are a
victim of crime because they assume that either the police
aren't going to do anything, or the crime is not
actually going to get followed up on, or the prosecutor's
not going to charge the individual. And it also captures
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again this problem of well, the person actually assaulted someone,
but because it's a he said, she said, then we're
going to, you know, bring it down to something lower,
or it was an aggravated assault and we're going to
charge simple assault, et cetera. The National Crime Victimization Survey
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pretty consistently shows since the pandemic that crime that has
not been reported has gone up in DC and Chicago.
The NCBs reveals that people have very little faith in
the justice system. Talking to my friends in DC, you
mentioned that when you come here you feel a lot
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less safe than you do in New York City. Every
single person I know in DC has some kind of
crime story, if not multiple crime stories. Just about a
month ago, I was walking back from taping a show
in a DuPont Circle and was stopped by some creepy guy,
and like, I'm not going to call the police about
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that because they're not going to do anything, but that
it happens a crime, right, it happened my husband was
assaulted by a homeless man. The police convinced him not
to press charges because they said he would be back
out on the street the next day. It wasn't worth
his time. I've been threatened to be raped by a
cracked out man at a bus stop, had my while
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it's stolen, been trapped by a crazy homeless woman who
demanded I give her money.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
The Maxine Waters right, shock.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I hope you know that is one woman I think
I would be able to defend myself against. But in
just walking through Union Station over the years, every woman
knows that you do not arrive more than five minutes
before your train is set to leave, because you will
be harassed by some homeless guy or as salted or
worse train stations. That's that's what life has been in
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d C.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Train stations are in New York too, and it's in
a lot of major cities. Train stations aren't hubs of
like mentally beyond belief. My last thing is that you
know Democrats have responded with saying it's the red states
that have worse crime rates than the Blue states, and
the blue states that the right Republicans will say, well,
it's the May Democratic mayors. It's really a hyperpensity of
(29:55):
black Americans with an easy availability of guns, with a
young population. I mean, that's really what it is in
these places like Jackson, Mississippi. But Gavin Newsom has a point,
and I would like, and this is my own pontificating,
the governor of Mississippi should say I think it's Tate
Tate Reefs should sit there and say, President Trump, police
(30:15):
in the National Garden in Jackson, Like, we could make
this situation much much easier if we're going to have
a national moment and not just like own the Libs
on it and the state national gardens and could come
in and try to help the police in these cities.
I mean it's hard. Like in New Orleans, there's a
lot of policemen who are former convicts that are there,
believe it or not, But like in some of these
(30:37):
cities there is a lot. But I think that it
is a real moment to actually do something if we
have a president willing to get on board with it,
there's no reason to at this exact moment. I don't
if you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, I agree that Republican governors should take a page
out of Trump's playbook and get these blue cities under control. Right,
It really is a population of blow income black Americans
who are driving a lot of the crime crisis in
those blue cities. So it's a policy choice, but also
sort of just a socioeconomic reality. And Tate Reeves I
(31:18):
interviewed him maybe a couple months ago at this point,
and he talked about Jackson and was very concerned about
I think there's an upcoming election for mayor that he's
really worried about because they've consistently had these progressive mayors,
but is acutely aware of the problem Trump I think
(31:40):
would it would actually be great if he were to
be able to send some National Guard resources into kind
of squash that narrative. But I mean, I think one
other thing that I just want to mention really quickly
about the crime problem in cities is that sometimes it's
(32:00):
not even really crime per se, but a lot of
it is quality of life issues. So for example, if
I am going out to dinner in Georgetown and I
choose to sit on the restaurant's patio, and this is
a true story, by the way, I'm eating there with
my friends and a homeless man walks up, takes a
(32:25):
white cloth napkin off the table next to us, squats
behind a nearby trash can, takes a dump and then
wipes himself with the cloth knack and he just stole
and throws it in the trash can. I wasn't technically
a victim of a crime, but I'm still going to
feel less safe in my city because that occurred. And
(32:47):
that is something that statistics won't tell you about why
people feel the way that they do when they're in DC.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, and think of it like this. DC has a
crazy housing problem. DC houses are so expensive in the
DC areas is crazy. It's one of the most costly
areas to live in. How many homes are currently in
a high crime area that no person would want to
live in that go way under the market value if
they were just a mile over. That suppressed the availability
(33:19):
of housing. People cannot live in them because the crime
levels and the homeless populations and the drug population is
so high. It creates other issues like housing crisis and
as well as a quality of life crisis.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
As you said, with this.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Restaurant amber, where can people go to read more of
your stuff? Hear your commentary following and social media.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They can find me on x at Amber Marie Duke.
My work is available to be read at the Dailycollar
dot com. And I'm also hosting The Hills Rising every
Friday and Reasons Free Media every Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So check out out the libertarians over there. But Ambers
Amber is one of the best in the business, worth
absolutely worth following. I don't say everybody, so thank you
for being on this podcast. Thanks Ryan, Hey, we'll be
right back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Welcome back for the Asking Me Anything segment. If you
want any part of the ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast dot com. That's Ryan
at Numbers Game Numbers Plural gamepodcast dot com. I read
them all. I get to every one of them. Eventually,
I'm a little backlog, but I love your emails. I
do read them, and I will get to them on
the show, or I'll just email you privately if I
(34:30):
it's something I don't really can't ans on the show,
or it's just a little quick thing. But this one
comes from Mary. She writes, I know Trump is busy,
but as a lifelong New Yorker, do you think he
can get Adams, Curtis and Cuomo together to broke or
a deal so we can get we can prevent comrade
Mandani from being in office. Why can't Democrats figure out
how to move forward? What remains in the party platform
(34:52):
is pure Marxism. We should start referring to him as
the Marxist Party. They absolutely despise the country. They want
to rule. Even within their party, they apply a purity
test to root out traders. They rewrite history and deny
laws of nature. If they ever gain power again, they
will try to find a way to crush opposition. Finally,
(35:12):
if we can't stop Mandoni this time, maybe Trump can
run against him for mayor. Okay, Mary a lot to
chew on there. So first of all, can Trump get
them all in a room? Trump, I guess, can call
them all in a room. I don't think that Cuomo
would answer that call because it would look like he's
colluding and he's like Republican light. And part of the
Cuomo campaign is to say that I'm the Democrat who
(35:34):
could really take on President Trump. I mean, President Trump
did well for New York City, but he didn't come
close to winning. I think that right now, what President
Trump could do is he could offer Eric Adams and
Curtis Lee will a very nice DC job. Get them
leave the city and get out of the race, and
(35:56):
it could be a head to head with Cuomo and
with Mandani. I think Cuomo is running an absolutely garbage campaign.
Though Cuomo should be sitting there and saying I have
been a bipartisanly supported governor, which when he was first elected.
Remember when Cuomo was first elected in twenty and ten,
he sat there and said, I will bring tax reform
(36:18):
that will help working class people, that will help the elderly,
that will help small businesses in upstate New York. He
ran to appeal to Republicans, especially modern Republicans, who thought
that the Republican at the time was a little too
out there right. I can't remember his name, but he
was from Erie County, and he was he brought a
baseball bat to his own press conference and said he
(36:38):
hated the media. Whatever the case is, that's neither here
nor there, but he did run when he first ran,
I can work with the Republicans who control the state Senate.
I can work, I could have. I'm a man for
all people. I support gay marriage, I support tax reform.
I'm here for everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
As his time being governor continued, he ran to the
left because he wanted to run for president and because
he didn't want to get primaried, and he was afraid
of that. He saw the teleis in the Democratic Party. Okay, fine,
you lost the Democratic primary. Run to the middle again.
Call the Republicans and say I will protect your seven
(37:16):
city council seats. I will protect the six or seven
Assembly seats you have in the city. I will support
the handful of politicians you have, and I will work
with you and the common Sense Caucus, which is a
caucus of Republicans and Democrats who are just not socialist
whack jobs in the city council.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
He's not doing any of that right now. Cuomo is
running as he ran for governor, is saying I can
manage the decline better than anybody else, and it's not
aspirational and it's not going to win in the election.
And I cannot believe how stupid I thought this man
was a real politician. It's just that he happened to
be a Democrat from New York so he can get
elected without really trying. He's oh my god, this is
(37:56):
the worst cam I've ever seen. But I don't think
that Trump can do anything, besire, I try to give
Adams and Sliwa a job.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So that's that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Why don't we call the Democratic part of the Marxist
Party because they're not the Demo, that's not their name.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean, that's just people feel that way. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
There are a number of Democrats who are fairly moderate
who would not agree with that term and wouldn't agree
with that opinion, and like, you know, I wouldn't call
like the governor of Kentucky like a Marxist. I mean,
you know, they believe in some level of social safety,
that they use some level of taxes, but so sort
of Republicans in most cases. Yeah, I mean, I just
(38:31):
think that the next generation of Democrats are all identitarian
on the issues of race and socialism, and I don't
think that. I think the next generation of Democrats that
have been kept at bay for a long time by
the likes of Nancy Pelosi are going to becoming and
be going crazy when it comes to Trump running from mayor.
He's not a resident of New York City anymore. He's
(38:52):
resident of Florida. And I don't think that you want
to go from being president to being mayor, especially when
you're in your mid eighties at the time. So we're
gonna have to find somebody else. Maybe get Derek Jeter
to run. Maybe find a Yankee like that might be
our path. Find one of the Dynasty Yankees and ask them.
Ask Alex Rodriguez to run as a Republican like that
(39:12):
might be. I grew up a huge nineties Yankee fan.
I could name the almost the entire roster. Tina Martinez.
I would knock on doors for him, Bernie Williams, I
would knock on doors for him. I don't care what
there was, Derek Jeter, Chuck dock on doors or Chuck
not blocked. I mean, that's how bad it is. I
don't care who it is. Get a nineties New York Yankee.
(39:34):
Maybe that would do it and bring people further into
the GOP coalition who aren't there yet. But yeah, it's not.
I don't think it's any Trump for that. But thank
you for that question, Mary, And if you like this podcast,
please like and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
wherever you get your podcast, and I will see you
guys in the next episode.
Welcome back to a Numbers Game with Ryan Gardowsky. I
am taping this episode from Washington, d C. I got
to speak at the National Conservative Conference on Tuesday, so
I've been in d C. I have a lot of
DC kind of buzziness and hanging out with DC people.
It's a certain type of wavelength that I'm not usually on.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But I spoke too.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I spoke in d C at the conference about radical
Islam and immigration and if it was great, and I
want to thank the organization and his founder, Urim Hazoni
for having me. It was an honor to speak here.
I've never got invited before, so but it was very
funny what happened right But right after I spoke, I
got off the stage and someone who's been on this podcast,
the former guest of the podcast, walked up to me
(00:42):
and introduced himself because I had never met in real life,
and he goes, you know, do you remember me? I
was on your podcast. I'm not going to say his
name because I don't want to embarrass him, but he goes,
I was on your podcast. I go, oh, yeah, of course,
and then he just started talking to me about something
that I don't know. I was like I was kind
of interested in, but I wasn't super interesting, and I'm
must have been making a face and I didn't notice it,
(01:03):
and he goes, do you remember me, like I'm so,
and so I was like, oh no, I'm very well
aware of who I'm talking to.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right now, but I must have been making the phase
of I have no interest, which he interpret is I
have no idea who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I felt bad about that, not not my I just
didn't like. You know, sometimes you do something and you're
talking versus a long time, you just get so tired
of talking and you just don't want to do it anymore.
And I guess I was just in a moment, but
it was very funny. The overall point of the speech
that I said about Islam, radical Islam, and immigration is
that we as America are very lucky compared to Europe
(01:41):
because we're not within walking distance of most Muslim countries,
and we when we experience a large wave of first
time Muslim immigrants or the first kind of wave of
any kind of Muslim immigrants in our country in the
nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, when a new culture is
coming to America that's exotic to the native culture. This
(02:03):
is not really relevant anymore because they're kind of all here,
But this is especially true in the seventies and eighties
and nineties, is that they like the first ones to
come have to be skills because you can really only
get here through very few visas, and the largest one
is family reunification. If you don't have family here, well
then you have to do it through occupation and skill.
(02:24):
And so we got like the doctors and the engineers
and scientists and some very good Muslim immigrants when it
first began, and we were also seeing things like the
shah Fall, and a lot of moderates Muslims in the
aur were wanting to leave because they saw the way
that the world was changing there. That will come to
(02:46):
an end though, as we have enough immigrants here now
that family reunification and family based chain migration will be
the predominant way we receive Muslims in this country. And
also there's a radical that has happened abroad. At the
same time, a part of excellence and immigration comes from scarcity.
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You want the population of recent immigrants to be low
as low as possible in comparison to the native nations population.
So here's a perfect example, if you had a choice
to live either in India or Mexico, you would want
to live in Mexico because for the average Mexican, the
average Mexican is wealthier and has a higher quality of
(03:29):
life than the average Indian. Right But if you'd rather
be a Mexican or an Indian American, you'd rather be
an Indian American. They have much higher levels of college
degree and income and all the rest of it. Why
because we took in zero point three percent of India's
population and twenty eight percent of Mexico's population. So while
we got the cream from India, we have a lot
(03:52):
of lower to middle, lower level quality populations from Mexico,
and that has reduced the mean Mexican Americans household, income,
college degree, everything closer to what it is in Mexico
than what it would be if we only took the
elites in and right now we only have the elites
of India. Basically, we don't have a lot of the
(04:13):
people who would otherwise be you know, swimming in the
Gange River and bathing and bury their dead and washing
their clothes all in the same place. What has happened
with Moustlim immigration though is now we are going to
have more people. We have tons of refugees from like
Somalia in Afghanistan, but even from the other places, even
from the nice places. We're more and more getting chain
(04:34):
migration through families. So we're going to get the deadbeat
cousin and uncle eventually who is susceptible to radical Islam.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
And that's all.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And also the spouses who they meet over there, who
they bring like.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The Sam Bernardino shooter.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That is a problem for radical Islam. It's also a
problem for American Jews. And when I said in the podcast,
I said this on C ANDM, and I said this
with a I was on with Leah McGowan. Mcgou Yeah,
McGowan from she's some left wing political podcast hosts from Canada.
She's a very nice woman, but she's not she blinks
a lot. I'll just say she's like a woman who
(05:10):
blinks a lot. So I said that there will be
by twenty thirty five more Muslim immigrants than there are
Jewish Americans, and they will live in more important swing states,
and that will change how politics is conducted in relation
to Middle East policy, but also other policies as well
around speech, around hate speech, around Sharia cities, around like
(05:33):
a million other things. Because of mass immigration. You want scarcity.
You want only the best of the best of the
world to come here. Anyway, that was the whole speech.
That was what we talked about and and what I
talked about, and I thought it was a fairly good
and influential thing. I don't have a ton of numbers
for you guys this week. I've been been in DC
(05:53):
for two weeks, especially post being sick with COVID, as
I mentioned in the last episode, and they've just DC's
like its own orbit and what they think people care about.
No one gives a vote about. I try to give
has a very clean By the way, I really don't swear,
so anyway, one number that I thought was fascinating that
I had never heard about before I heard about it
(06:15):
this week. If you run for a federal office, or
you run a super pack like I do, you are
forbidden from getting donations from foreign entities and foreign donors. Right,
It's very well known. You can't get money from you know,
Saudias or Israelis or any or Russians or anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
If you're running for president or you're running for US Senate.
If you're running in the state legislatures, you can though
in many places, and more importantly than you just being
able to run for office and getting foreign money in
some places, if you have a state proposal and state
ballid initiative that can be funded by foreign money. There
(06:53):
is an organization called the sixteen thirty Fund. Now I
had not been super aware of the sixteen thirty fund.
It is a left wing C four. A C four
is a nonprofit that can give a minority fifty to
forty nine percent of its money to political campaigns and packs.
It's not a tax right off, but it's like a
I don't know it's it's not a pack, and it's
(07:14):
not a nonprofit's own thing. That's what they call dark
money groups. Dark money groups are basically C four because
you don't disclose where the money comes from. The biggest
donor to the sixteen thirty fund is a Swiss billionaire,
a liberal billionaire called hansgorg Wece. He is given hundreds
of millions of dollars to this sixteen thirty fund, and
(07:34):
they have spent over two hundred and fifty million dollars
on ballot initiative to change state laws throughout the country
to promote progressive ideas on everything from abortion to taxes.
You name it, you run the gamut, and the sixteen
thirty Fund has had its fingers on the pull to
(07:56):
try to change the way that our state governments work.
The way our laws work pertaining to the government affects
us the most, which is your state government affection more
than your federal government does. I did not know this,
but the states have started to actually reform the laws
and change the laws when it comes to how state
constitutions are protected from foreign interference. In twenty twenty four,
(08:20):
Ohio was the very first state to ban any foreign
money from being used to change ballid initiatives. And this
last I think week and a half ago, there were
ten total states, one being Ohio.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
From last year.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Nine states have added to that this year. They are Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas,
and Wyoming all have passed new bans on foreign interference
into packs and other organizations being helped to sit there
and change your state constitution. Seventeen other states have also
(08:57):
passed I sorry, I have proposed bans on this foreign money.
I think it's something that actually bipartisanship can really actually
take effect in I think that this is a place
where Republicans Democrats can come together because it seems that
fairly enough aarreaus that some billionaire from Switzerland and can
be pushing left wing issues. I mean, these are all
Republican states who have done this. But I think that
(09:19):
I don't see why a Democrat would support this anyway.
We don't want They wouldn't like if Russia came in,
or if there was like an anti gay bill that
Saudi Arabia or you know, African country and anti LGBT
African country was getting involved in.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So I think that I think this is a great thing,
and I think this is really really progressed. I did
not know that this was the law, and I did
not know that states were really jumping on the bandwagon
to ban foreign money. So far Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kansas,
and Wyoming have banned it. Hopefully more will follow. I
(09:55):
have a great interview today. It is with my very
good friend Amber Duke's by Amber eighth. I've known her
since before she was married. She's a whip smart reporter,
from the Daily Caller and she's actually an editor from
the Daily Caller. She'll be on to talk about Trump
with a National Guard and the National Guards been coming
in to sit there and reduce crime, and we'll have
a real conversation on crime in Washington, C and the
(10:16):
country as a whole. A stay tuned for that coming
up next. So in the last.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Week, if you've seen the continued liberal outrage over one thing,
it is over the idea of President Troop. Let me
start that over again. If you have paid attention to
anything over the last week, the thing that liberals have
an outrage over is President Trump having National guardsmen in
Washingt d C. Here to discuss both their outrage and
(10:45):
the statistics on crime both in our nation's capital and
broad nationwide, is Amber Duke of the Daily Caller. Amber,
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Thanks for having me Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So tell me about you live in the Washingt d C.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Area.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Is there a crime issue, first of all, that they
would even acknowledge it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yes, there's a major crime issue. And one of the
things that liberals and Democrats have been saying in response
to Trump's federalization of DC police in the efforts to
fight crime is that crime has been going down over
the past couple of years, which is a very misleading
way of characterizing the problem. For one, because the DC
(11:29):
Police chief former police chief is currently under investigation for
manipulating crime statistics, including classifying violent crimes as non violent crimes.
We also have a problem where the DC attorneys will
deliberately lessen charges against suspects because they don't like to
(11:52):
quote unquote over prosecute. This is a particular problem with
the SEE attorney who prosecutes youth crime. That person is
not selected by the president like the DC Attorney General is,
and so they are not someone who was chosen by
(12:17):
Trump and is very tough on crime. The other problem
is that crime skyrocketed in the DC area in twenty
twenty during the pandemic, and so if you say, well,
numbers are down between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four,
it's like, okay, well down from one of their highest
peaks since the nineteen nineties. Right. And then one final
(12:39):
issue with DC crime is that, like most cities, you
typically expect that a lot of the crime is going
to be concentrated in specific areas, meaning there are things
that you can do typically to avoid becoming a victim.
Don't go to anacostia, particularly at night, don't walk around
(13:00):
alone at night by yourself, stay away from CD areas,
don't join a gang, et cetera, et cetera. These are
all sort of common sense things that most city drillers
will do to avoid becoming crime victims. In DC, since
the pandemic, we have seen crime become more randomized, meaning
it's spread out across the city into wealthier enclaves, into
(13:22):
areas that were typically considered safe, and is done by
sort of roving gangs of illegal aliens and youth offenders.
So people feel more unsafe because it seems like their
ability to become a victim is much more random and
less tied directly to their behavior.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I have been in New York my entire life. I
was followed and attempted to be mugged one time, as
followed I think two or three times in all of
New York and thirty something in year thirty six years
that I was a full time resident New York. In DC,
I have been followed more times than Noll thirty six
years in New York, and I've never lived here. I've
only come here like on trips for work for a
(14:05):
week at a time, and I have had more incidences,
including in broad daylight in well poppeded area around Chinatown.
I've seen a live shooting in Chinatown. I've seen way
more crime, like actual, like really violent crime in broad
daylight in Washington, d C. Than I ever saw in
New York. Now, maybe I lived a very uh glamorous life,
(14:26):
but I grew up in New York in the early nineties.
So when where it's two thousand murders a year in
New York, like, I mean, I saw like I was
there when it was really bad. Granted I was a child,
but throughout my teen years everywhere, I never saw crime
like I saw it in DC. Just the open amount
of crazy people who talk to themselves, who are allowed
(14:47):
to roam the streets and a cost people is startling.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's actually startling.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And the amount of kids who should be in school
who seem to be like out and just around and
it's the middle of the day and you're like, why
is there no school for these roaming black kids seems
kind of insane to me. And a big part of
this is, you know, with big balls being attacked the
(15:14):
Doge staffer being attacked and him being attacked by it
was black teenagers has changed this for Washington c Now,
I think there's only been one murder in two weeks
since President Trump launched the National Guard. Has crime overall
gone down aside from murder.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, pretty significantly. Actually, I have the numbers here in
front of we. This is a two week comparison from
August eleventh to August twenty fifth, and we have the
numbers from twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, and twenty
twenty five, all the same two week period. Of course,
(15:53):
the twenty twenty five two week period is after Trump
said in the National Guard. Between this two week period
in twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five, we have
seen carjackings go down ninety six percent, robberies down sixty
eight percent, homicide down sixty seven percent, all violent crime
(16:15):
down fifty two percent, and burglary down forty seven percent.
Total crime actually down twenty one percent. And when we
compare the same period of time between twenty twenty three
and twenty twenty four, where Democrats say, well, crime was
already declining, Yes, but not as much as it has
since Trump federalized the DC police. Carjackings between that time
(16:39):
period twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four went down
thirty five percent. Again, between twenty twenty four and twenty
twenty five it was ninety six percent. Robberies went down
forty six percent compared to sixty eight percent, homicides down
forty percent to sixty seven percent. So was crime trending
in the right direction? I mean yes, technically, but obviously
(17:00):
not enough, not to the degree that it needed to
in order for citizens to feel safe. And numbers don't lie.
I mean that's sort of the premise of this show,
and the numbers are very clear here that Trump's approach
to crime and DC is working.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I last night, well on crime, when you mentioned
twenty twenty, there's crime in recent history in America. There
are two chapters. There's from nineteen ninety to twenty thirteen,
where crime nationwide was decreasing everywhere, and then BLM happens
with Ferguson in twenty fifteen and crime goes up. It
(17:37):
kind of stays around the same place, but it's up
from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty. Then George Flood happens,
BLM happens on you know, meth like this is severoids
rather and like the crime explodes, and it's been weaning
down from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two numbers.
It is, to my knowledge, in most parts of the country,
it is never returned to twenty fourteen numbers. Most when
(18:02):
you look at most violent crime, the reason that violent
crime has declined specifically as a percentage is because burglaries
and robberies are considered a form of violent crime. Because
of home alarm systems and home cameras, that has really
caused a massive decrease in that specific field of crime,
(18:24):
right while rapes have gone up in a lot of areas,
or like non violent crimes, which are fairly violent nonetheless,
but like assault is considered actually not a violent crime,
but assault has gone up, like in the New York area,
for example. What liberals like to sit there and say,
I was watching actually Ben Shapiro on Ampi Phillips's show yesterday,
(18:45):
and I was texting afterwards, but she was like, well,
his National guardsmen are not actually patrolling the streets to
stop crime in the high crime areas. But to my knowledge,
and maybe I'm wrong, his goal is to have them in.
The lesser crime that the policeman could go to, the
more there'd be more cops and the more criminal ayers.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
That's correct, That's exactly right. Because the DC Police, it's
the Metropolitan Police Department is what it's called MPD. They
are severely understaffed right now. They've been offering like ten
twenty thousand dollars signing bonuses for years now to try
to staff up the police force and really haven't had
much luck because who wants to work for a police
force when sixty seven percent of the crimes that you
(19:29):
arrest people for are not charged by the top prosecutor
who was appointed by Joe Biden. Now things are a
little bit different now, but you still again have the
DC Attorney General who does all youth crime, who's not
really prosecuting or under prosecuting a lot of these kids.
They're back out on the street every day. Who wants
(19:50):
to work for that police department. So when you have
a limited amount of resources, having the National Guard there
to patrol George Town on M Street or to be
Navy Yard allows the police that you do have, particularly
the more experienced police officers, to focus on the neighborhoods
where the crime originates, which are typically in the southeast
(20:12):
quadrant of DC across the and Acostia River.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
So in response to this, President Trump has also talked
about He's gonna sit National Guarden to Chicago, and the
governor of Illinois is like, they just had fifty shootings
over a weekend in Chicago, and it's Chicago has like
I hate to say, they we're comically high crime, but
it is. It is preposterously high for a big city
(20:37):
in twenty twenties and has for a long time. It
kind of didn't have the real New York LA shift
in the nineties the way that other cities did, Like
they do have more. I think they have more murders
than New York does, and you're so much bigger city.
The thing is is so the governor is like, oh,
this is just normal to live in a big city.
Is there's a lot of shootings, and I don't I
(20:59):
think the opposing the idea of setting National guardsmen in
what is the status? I mean, can you just do
that and be like sorry, like this is I'm setting
my National guardsmen? There's no you have no options.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, the president is in control of that, Like
typically you would want the state to acquiesce to a
national guard coming in, but we saw this in Los Angeles, right,
He doesn't actually need the governor's permission in order to
do that. The Constitution, by the way, says to UH
that it's the federal government's job to have domestic tranquility.
(21:32):
So it seems pretty clear to me that he has
the authority to do it. And I always find it
bizarre when Democrats say, well, this is just part of
living in a big city, like it doesn't have to
be though. That's a choice, that's that's a specific policy
choice that you've made that you're okay with a certain
number of people dying because you don't want to do
(21:53):
the more difficult thing that actually requires manpower and resources
and good policy, which is to make sure that you
are cracking down on criminals, which, by the way, in
most big cities, and particularly in DC, most of the
crime happens from a very small number of individuals. You
actually don't have to do that much policing in order
(22:15):
to get crime down. You just have to arrest the
right people. In DC, one of the former police chiefs,
not the same one who was accused of manipulating the
crime statistics. But Chief Robert Conti, he said a few
years back that the average homicide suspect in DC had
committed eleven priors. Eleven priors, and I mean, I think
(22:39):
most people would probably scoff at the idea that all
of those priors, all eleven were petty, you were non
violent or in some way not deserving of this person
getting significant prison time. So again that's a choice. DC
City Council also made a lot of choices over the
years to make it easier for young people to get
away with crimes. When we see fourteen year olds carjacking
(23:02):
an uber driver and killing him, it's because they have
deprioritized prosecution of young people. Charles Allen, who is one
of the DCCD council members, he's actually a transplant from Alabama,
I believe, was the author of a lot of these
criminal justice reform measures, which I don't even like that
(23:22):
phrase because it doesn't really mean anything. But what he
did was he first introduced a bill that would make
it so that the most violent youth offenders, who are
the ones that actually get prosecuted in adult criminal court
because they've done things like murders, or rapes could get
out in fifteen years if they basically showed good behavior
(23:47):
in prison and a judge said that their conditions merited
their release. Then he amended it and it got a
lot worse. He amended it so that the youth offender,
the definition of a youth who was tried in court
was anyone up to the age of twenty five, So
not even miners at this point, full blown adults, people
who can drink, serve the military, et cetera, vote, all
(24:11):
of those things. Those individuals not could get out in
ten years now instead of fifteen, but shall get out
in ten years. The judges are not even allowed now
to look at these circumstances of the crime. They're not
allowed to consider anything about the offender's background. If they
(24:31):
meet these specific conditions as laid out in the bill
under the age of twenty five, have served ten years,
haven't done anything bad while they're in prison, so to speak,
the judge has to issue their release. So you could
rape someone when you're twenty five years old in DC
and get out when you are thirty five years old.
That is insanity.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's crazy. And I mentioned Levin priors. The overwhelming
majority of violent criminals have at least three priors, and
that's why three that's why the idea three strike rules.
In two thousand and one, there was a study by
the RAND Corporation that looked at California's three strike rules
and found that it did reduce violent crime by twenty percent.
(25:14):
Because that's I mean, that is true. I think in
New York, I think in the name is in d C.
DC was like, if you arrest like the top one
hundred violent criminals, you would and put them away for
life whatever. You would reduce violent crime by like our
shootings by like fifty percent. And the thing it was
for New Year, it was like two hundred and fifty
or three hundred, I forget the exact number, but it was.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was. It was a shockingly small amount of people
who were doing the overwhelming amount of shootings and overwhelming
targeting Black Americans too, when you know, in the name
of anti racism, they all be left out to shoot
more black people?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Is crime?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is the truth? In crime?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
In crime in Chicago? Are they claiming that, oh a
crime is down anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, it's the exact same refrain we've heard in DC,
and you started to get into this a little bit
earlier with the way that they manipulate statistics to show
crime decreases. One of the other important things to look
at is there's basically two methods of tracking crime in
the United States. One is the FBI Crime Database, which
is what most people use when they're looking at crime statistics,
(26:24):
and it could be relatively helpful if you're looking at
the same measures year after year. But of course, people
classify crimes differently in different states and different localities, and
some states are prosecuting crimes as one thing and another
state's prosecuting it as something else, right like reducing the charges,
et cetera, making a lot of plea deals like we
see with the Soros prosecutors. But the other database that
(26:50):
people often look at to really understand crime in its
totality is the National Crime Victimization Survey, which is a
survey that allows self reporting from victims of crime. And
what this does is it helps capture under reporting and
under prosecution, because in places like DC and Chicago, when
(27:11):
you have very progressive prosecutors and politicians in charge, you
have people not calling the police when they are a
victim of crime because they assume that either the police
aren't going to do anything, or the crime is not
actually going to get followed up on, or the prosecutor's
not going to charge the individual. And it also captures
(27:32):
again this problem of well, the person actually assaulted someone,
but because it's a he said, she said, then we're
going to, you know, bring it down to something lower,
or it was an aggravated assault and we're going to
charge simple assault, et cetera. The National Crime Victimization Survey
(27:52):
pretty consistently shows since the pandemic that crime that has
not been reported has gone up in DC and Chicago.
The NCBs reveals that people have very little faith in
the justice system. Talking to my friends in DC, you
mentioned that when you come here you feel a lot
(28:15):
less safe than you do in New York City. Every
single person I know in DC has some kind of
crime story, if not multiple crime stories. Just about a
month ago, I was walking back from taping a show
in a DuPont Circle and was stopped by some creepy guy,
and like, I'm not going to call the police about
(28:37):
that because they're not going to do anything, but that
it happens a crime, right, it happened my husband was
assaulted by a homeless man. The police convinced him not
to press charges because they said he would be back
out on the street the next day. It wasn't worth
his time. I've been threatened to be raped by a
cracked out man at a bus stop, had my while
(29:00):
it's stolen, been trapped by a crazy homeless woman who
demanded I give her money.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
The Maxine Waters right, shock.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I hope you know that is one woman I think
I would be able to defend myself against. But in
just walking through Union Station over the years, every woman
knows that you do not arrive more than five minutes
before your train is set to leave, because you will
be harassed by some homeless guy or as salted or
worse train stations. That's that's what life has been in
(29:33):
d C.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Train stations are in New York too, and it's in
a lot of major cities. Train stations aren't hubs of
like mentally beyond belief. My last thing is that you
know Democrats have responded with saying it's the red states
that have worse crime rates than the Blue states, and
the blue states that the right Republicans will say, well,
it's the May Democratic mayors. It's really a hyperpensity of
(29:55):
black Americans with an easy availability of guns, with a
young population. I mean, that's really what it is in
these places like Jackson, Mississippi. But Gavin Newsom has a point,
and I would like, and this is my own pontificating,
the governor of Mississippi should say I think it's Tate
Tate Reefs should sit there and say, President Trump, police
(30:15):
in the National Garden in Jackson, Like, we could make
this situation much much easier if we're going to have
a national moment and not just like own the Libs
on it and the state national gardens and could come
in and try to help the police in these cities.
I mean it's hard. Like in New Orleans, there's a
lot of policemen who are former convicts that are there,
believe it or not, But like in some of these
(30:37):
cities there is a lot. But I think that it
is a real moment to actually do something if we
have a president willing to get on board with it,
there's no reason to at this exact moment. I don't
if you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, I agree that Republican governors should take a page
out of Trump's playbook and get these blue cities under control. Right,
It really is a population of blow income black Americans
who are driving a lot of the crime crisis in
those blue cities. So it's a policy choice, but also
sort of just a socioeconomic reality. And Tate Reeves I
(31:18):
interviewed him maybe a couple months ago at this point,
and he talked about Jackson and was very concerned about
I think there's an upcoming election for mayor that he's
really worried about because they've consistently had these progressive mayors,
but is acutely aware of the problem Trump I think
(31:40):
would it would actually be great if he were to
be able to send some National Guard resources into kind
of squash that narrative. But I mean, I think one
other thing that I just want to mention really quickly
about the crime problem in cities is that sometimes it's
(32:00):
not even really crime per se, but a lot of
it is quality of life issues. So for example, if
I am going out to dinner in Georgetown and I
choose to sit on the restaurant's patio, and this is
a true story, by the way, I'm eating there with
my friends and a homeless man walks up, takes a
(32:25):
white cloth napkin off the table next to us, squats
behind a nearby trash can, takes a dump and then
wipes himself with the cloth knack and he just stole
and throws it in the trash can. I wasn't technically
a victim of a crime, but I'm still going to
feel less safe in my city because that occurred. And
(32:47):
that is something that statistics won't tell you about why
people feel the way that they do when they're in DC.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, and think of it like this. DC has a
crazy housing problem. DC houses are so expensive in the
DC areas is crazy. It's one of the most costly
areas to live in. How many homes are currently in
a high crime area that no person would want to
live in that go way under the market value if
they were just a mile over. That suppressed the availability
(33:19):
of housing. People cannot live in them because the crime
levels and the homeless populations and the drug population is
so high. It creates other issues like housing crisis and
as well as a quality of life crisis.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
As you said, with this.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Restaurant amber, where can people go to read more of
your stuff? Hear your commentary following and social media.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
They can find me on x at Amber Marie Duke.
My work is available to be read at the Dailycollar
dot com. And I'm also hosting The Hills Rising every
Friday and Reasons Free Media every Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So check out out the libertarians over there. But Ambers
Amber is one of the best in the business, worth
absolutely worth following. I don't say everybody, so thank you
for being on this podcast. Thanks Ryan, Hey, we'll be
right back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Welcome back for the Asking Me Anything segment. If you
want any part of the ask Me Anything segment, email
me Ryan at Numbers Game Podcast dot com. That's Ryan
at Numbers Game Numbers Plural gamepodcast dot com. I read
them all. I get to every one of them. Eventually,
I'm a little backlog, but I love your emails. I
do read them, and I will get to them on
the show, or I'll just email you privately if I
(34:30):
it's something I don't really can't ans on the show,
or it's just a little quick thing. But this one
comes from Mary. She writes, I know Trump is busy,
but as a lifelong New Yorker, do you think he
can get Adams, Curtis and Cuomo together to broke or
a deal so we can get we can prevent comrade
Mandani from being in office. Why can't Democrats figure out
how to move forward? What remains in the party platform
(34:52):
is pure Marxism. We should start referring to him as
the Marxist Party. They absolutely despise the country. They want
to rule. Even within their party, they apply a purity
test to root out traders. They rewrite history and deny
laws of nature. If they ever gain power again, they
will try to find a way to crush opposition. Finally,
(35:12):
if we can't stop Mandoni this time, maybe Trump can
run against him for mayor. Okay, Mary a lot to
chew on there. So first of all, can Trump get
them all in a room? Trump, I guess, can call
them all in a room. I don't think that Cuomo
would answer that call because it would look like he's
colluding and he's like Republican light. And part of the
Cuomo campaign is to say that I'm the Democrat who
(35:34):
could really take on President Trump. I mean, President Trump
did well for New York City, but he didn't come
close to winning. I think that right now, what President
Trump could do is he could offer Eric Adams and
Curtis Lee will a very nice DC job. Get them
leave the city and get out of the race, and
(35:56):
it could be a head to head with Cuomo and
with Mandani. I think Cuomo is running an absolutely garbage campaign.
Though Cuomo should be sitting there and saying I have
been a bipartisanly supported governor, which when he was first elected.
Remember when Cuomo was first elected in twenty and ten,
he sat there and said, I will bring tax reform
(36:18):
that will help working class people, that will help the elderly,
that will help small businesses in upstate New York. He
ran to appeal to Republicans, especially modern Republicans, who thought
that the Republican at the time was a little too
out there right. I can't remember his name, but he
was from Erie County, and he was he brought a
baseball bat to his own press conference and said he
(36:38):
hated the media. Whatever the case is, that's neither here
nor there, but he did run when he first ran,
I can work with the Republicans who control the state Senate.
I can work, I could have. I'm a man for
all people. I support gay marriage, I support tax reform.
I'm here for everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
As his time being governor continued, he ran to the
left because he wanted to run for president and because
he didn't want to get primaried, and he was afraid
of that. He saw the teleis in the Democratic Party. Okay, fine,
you lost the Democratic primary. Run to the middle again.
Call the Republicans and say I will protect your seven
(37:16):
city council seats. I will protect the six or seven
Assembly seats you have in the city. I will support
the handful of politicians you have, and I will work
with you and the common Sense Caucus, which is a
caucus of Republicans and Democrats who are just not socialist
whack jobs in the city council.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
He's not doing any of that right now. Cuomo is
running as he ran for governor, is saying I can
manage the decline better than anybody else, and it's not
aspirational and it's not going to win in the election.
And I cannot believe how stupid I thought this man
was a real politician. It's just that he happened to
be a Democrat from New York so he can get
elected without really trying. He's oh my god, this is
(37:56):
the worst cam I've ever seen. But I don't think
that Trump can do anything, besire, I try to give
Adams and Sliwa a job.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So that's that.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Why don't we call the Democratic part of the Marxist
Party because they're not the Demo, that's not their name.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean, that's just people feel that way. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
There are a number of Democrats who are fairly moderate
who would not agree with that term and wouldn't agree
with that opinion, and like, you know, I wouldn't call
like the governor of Kentucky like a Marxist. I mean,
you know, they believe in some level of social safety,
that they use some level of taxes, but so sort
of Republicans in most cases. Yeah, I mean, I just
(38:31):
think that the next generation of Democrats are all identitarian
on the issues of race and socialism, and I don't
think that. I think the next generation of Democrats that
have been kept at bay for a long time by
the likes of Nancy Pelosi are going to becoming and
be going crazy when it comes to Trump running from mayor.
He's not a resident of New York City anymore. He's
(38:52):
resident of Florida. And I don't think that you want
to go from being president to being mayor, especially when
you're in your mid eighties at the time. So we're
gonna have to find somebody else. Maybe get Derek Jeter
to run. Maybe find a Yankee like that might be
our path. Find one of the Dynasty Yankees and ask them.
Ask Alex Rodriguez to run as a Republican like that
(39:12):
might be. I grew up a huge nineties Yankee fan.
I could name the almost the entire roster. Tina Martinez.
I would knock on doors for him, Bernie Williams, I
would knock on doors for him. I don't care what
there was, Derek Jeter, Chuck dock on doors or Chuck
not blocked. I mean, that's how bad it is. I
don't care who it is. Get a nineties New York Yankee.
(39:34):
Maybe that would do it and bring people further into
the GOP coalition who aren't there yet. But yeah, it's not.
I don't think it's any Trump for that. But thank
you for that question, Mary, And if you like this podcast,
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