Kurt Schlichter - How to Win Wars Again

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. In this episode, our
friend Kurt Schlichtor is making an appearance, which is very exciting.
He is a lawyer, a veteran and author, a columnist
at townhall dot com, and just general ass kicker and
patriotic American. Kurt. Great to have you on, sir, Thanks
for coming to hang out. Well, Buck, you forgot sexual powerhouse.

(00:24):
I mean, you did tell me that at some point
your wife is going to bring you a bottle of wine.
So I figured we would have the you know, the
life advice for the gentleman out there. Once we had you,
Once you had a couple of glasses of wine. Missus
Schlichtor could tell everybody you know how the alpha dogs
actually roll. I'm just saying that's what I've heard. Well,
you've seen her, you know how hot she is. You
and I like share this. We just will not tolerate

(00:47):
women who aren't of a certain standard. Well, I will
tell you that I have a we have a mutual
friend who I don't want to I don't know if
I have permission to give away his secrets, But you
and I have a mutual friend. You probably know who
is for me saying this who has a theory that
you basically can't trust a guy who doesn't have a
hot wife. Now, as long as the guy thinks his

(01:08):
wife is hot, that counts, right, It's all about that.
But you can't trust a guy who doesn't have a
hot wife. That's or who doesn't believe he as a
hot wife. That's his theory. I always think that's an
interesting case study. Why would you why would you settle
for anything less than the best? You're a man, damn it,
you're a man. There you go. So we could get
into a dating advice for the younger male portion of

(01:31):
the audience later on the program. Like I said, Kurt
asked me, He's like, He's like, can I smoke? Can
I drink? Can I drink a cigar? That would be crazy?
Can I smoke a cigar? Can I drink some scotch?
During this? And I was like, Kurt, you you roll
however you want, buddy, this is Kurt's world. We're just
trying to film it um and and we'll get into
some of that stuff. I can I ask you about
some real stuff though for a second. First, because like

(01:53):
there are a lot of people come here that we
want to have news content analysis. You're very smart man.
You come from the old Cold War era, thump it
out with the bad guys with tanks. We're talking order
of battle stuff. We're talking about how many, how many,
you know, millions of rounds and hundreds and thousands of

(02:15):
gallons of fuel and you know, massive formations to fight
the Soviet beasts. So you know you're not one of
these fancy counterinsurgency guys. Oh. I speak multiple languages of
the natives, and I read books and sit around and
try to win the hearts and minds. You're like, boom,
we're dropping bombs on you. How Kosovo after nine to eleven,

(02:38):
which you know was a lot like a fireman instead
of getting to put out the fire at the orphanage
of the old folks. I mean, it's the cat out
of the tree. Uh. What I was at coast of
I was helping people, you know, start mushroom farms. Uh.
It was, it was. It was not a slam band.
But I started out in the Cold War. I started
out in Germany. I was part of NATO. I went

(03:00):
to the Gulf Wars per seventh Corps, end up at
seven Core Headquarters. I ran a heavily armed car wash
at that time. After that got out, went in the reserves,
immediately went mechanized infantry, which is uh you know, and
of course being the new lieutenant, I got to be
the vehicle guy. I got to be the battalion motor
officer for a heavy battalion. That was just a delight

(03:24):
because they break all the time. How prepared are we
for the possibility of a war with a country like
either Russia or China where they have very large things
that can go bang to you know what I mean?
You know, we've been fighting, We've been fighting wars for
twenty years where we have absolute uncontested air superiority from

(03:47):
day one, right, we have under air attack since Korea, right,
absolute technological superiority. You know, in most cases, even our
guys in Afghanistan, I rock had night vision goggless. Some
of the you know, we can get into like some
of the Hakani network guys and everything would happen. But
generally speaking, you know, we had much better technology. Are

(04:09):
we ready if we had to go you know, Abram's
tank muzzle to muzzle with Russian tank formations? Are we
ready for this? I mean, just just to get an
understanding of where we stand right now with military readiness
for the wars we may be fighting. I'm not as
worried about crew to crew fighting as I am about

(04:32):
high level leadership. Leadership cures a host of illnesses. It
is a solution to many many problems, and we don't
have it right now. Buck. We have a military that
has not won a war unequivocally in thirty years. We
have a military that is very concerned with nonsense. You know,

(04:52):
I was talking to another guy who was associated with
war colleges, and he was telling me that he would,
you know, sit in briefings and you know, basic exercises.
A bunch of colonels on Saturday will brief you on
what America's greatest strategic challenge is. Then Sunday they'll brief
you on what the solution is, you know, basic one
oh one, warcology stock. Half the people will show up

(05:13):
and say, our number one strategic challenges climate change. Okay, No,
our number one strategic challenge is Chinese trying to kill us.
I am not confident in our military leadership today. I
think we have dropped our standards, taken our eyes off
the ball, lost our focus. I think if we get

(05:35):
into a high intense conventional conflict against a peer competitor,
and I don't think the Soviet are the Russians got
Soviets updating myself. The Russians are truly a peer competitor
at this point, though after they rebuild their shattered army
they probably will be. Um. I think I think we're
going to find ourselves outgunned an outfought. I think we've

(05:58):
milked our past experience, particularly in the Navy. You know,
we were the only military name of the British, the
only navy that had done massive worldwide combat operations. We did.
Now in World War Two, we lived off that legacy.
I know, my family's all Navy. I'm the I'm the
Green sheep. Uh. And we lived off that for years

(06:18):
and that that's just gone. Now our ships are running
into each other. Are the officer corps is a disaster.
There's no real focus on combat readiness. Soldiers do what
commanders check. Commanders are checking wokeness, so you get wokeness
and it's uh, it's a disaster. And if we get

(06:40):
into a fight, we're going to lose people. Well, this
is my concern, isn't you know we saw in a
rocket Afghanistan excellence at the war fighter level continuously, but
with the with the idea of a war, a conventional
developed world conflict, now right. I brought up things like ammunition, gasoline,

(07:03):
because that's what actually matters. You know, who has who
brings more guns that they can keep in the field,
that they can fire accurately and feed with MMO and
you know, all that component of it, which is not
you know, really what we were doing in these other places.
I mean, I was reading about six months ago. I
think it was maybe a little more than that. We
were worried that our ability to provide munitions to Ukraine

(07:27):
was outstripping our ability to make them. And that's for
a war we're not even in. Look, the United States
is one war since the Civil War with two things.
First of all, our troops are generally excellent. They're generally
pretty good. You might be able to say at the
British Army, maybe the German Army man for man, we're

(07:48):
better trained, had a more focused professional military traditions. But
the American soldiers are pretty damn good. But you put
pretty damn good with endless artillery rounds. You know, the
Germans would fight the Americans, and they'd be tactically very proficient.
But every time they shot at Americans, they just get

(08:10):
pummeled by one five finds. They just get blown to
bits and and you can't fight that. We win because
we mastered logistics. We deliver steal on target. Steal on
target is not just pulling the cord on a camp.
It's building the shell, moving the shell. I remember in

(08:31):
the Gulf, I was at seven Core, Maine, which was
the city of Hafer Albatine is right off what's called
Tabline Road, big road running over the north, and I
was going back towards the town down in through a waddy,
which is a big valley, big valley, completely empty, nothing
but rocks and the occasional euromastic lizard. Three days later,

(08:53):
I drove through that same valley, as far as the
eye can see was American military material. We move moved
a city of five hundred thousand men from America and
Europe to the ports and then out in the middle
of the desert, and then we fought it moving. That

(09:13):
is a logistic achievement, uh desert storm and frankly, we
never I can't think they're military. That's master did I mean,
I think the Victorian Desert Storm was probably the height
of America's undisputed power, but it was a power of logistics. Right, Well,
what I was gonna say, I mean, by the way,
there's you know, how to Make War, the book by

(09:33):
William Morrow, which is now a multiple multiple editions, a
good basis for our basics for people to get a
sense of how to make war, what it actually entails,
and and and it is so much and over yet strategy,
every strategy is sexy, right, you know, Sunsue and you
talk about the clouds of wits and uh, you know,
you talk about all these different people from from history.

(09:53):
That makes everyone sound fancy. And then look there's a
lot of insight and interesting stuff from that. But you
really want to understand how people will wars. You look
at the greatest military powers in history all had superior logistics.
Superior logistics. I mean, this is this was true of
even though people don't think of it this way. The Mongolia.
Mongolians were amazing at siege warfare, which required you know,

(10:19):
enormous building and construction and coordination, I mean, you know,
as well as moving and feeding eighty thousand men or
you know, whatever the size of the military was that
they we're talking about on horseback obviously, the Germans moving
guns that are like bigger than any guns we even
see now for the First World War. They're doing it
with some of it on trains, but a lot of

(10:40):
it with horseback. Obviously, the British, the British Navy, I
mean most of the army that weremock that invaded Poland
was horse drawn. Yeah, you can hear about the pass,
but a ton of it was horse drawn. I mean,
even when the Ottomans were at their peaked too. What

(11:00):
the Ottomans could do, the reason the Ottomans were the
pre eminent Western world military power for certainly a few
hundred years was they could bring more men into the field,
feed them with better material, better training, and better logistics
support for them than anybody else by far, like no
one else even close to being able. Now, you know,

(11:21):
a lot of that was the logistics of or the
advantage of having Constantinople, which is the single probably most
advantageous real estate you could have had in the entire
certainly entire Mediterranean world. But of course it was the
Romans who really built that up. And of course we stake.
You can go walk on a Roman road today. Yeah,

(11:42):
and it's better than most roads in our third world
cities in Blue America. And this is why, you know,
as I look again now at the future and what
we'll be able to do. Look, our economic pre eminence
is really what drives our military pre eminence, certainly in
a convention conflict. And I see what's happening in Ukraine,

(12:03):
and I wanted to switch and get your sense of
where we are in We're going to talk strategy now.
We've been talking logistics, talking strategy here, here's where. Here's
where I think the right tends to be on this um.
And not including Lindsay Graham, who's just like blow it
out of the sky, went with the Russian claims. I mean,
I don't I don't understand how the Republican base. I

(12:24):
want to meet the South Carolina Republican you know, rock
solid Republican voters who are like Lindsey Graham is my guy.
I guess it's just habit. But I sit here, I go,
what do you you know? Anyway? You know, these red
states get soft because they don't have to fight. You know,
Republicans in California are pretty hard because we're on our

(12:45):
back foot all the time. But you get to like
Texas and if you want to be electis som you
gotta be a Republican. Seeing a lot of soft Republicans
who should be Democrats in a normal state coming in.
And then there are things like well, you know, you
can't really stop groomers. Oh well, school choice is terrible.
Oh well, hin' gonna be started? Yeah, no, I mean

(13:08):
you want. I was thinking it's interesting, you know, the
you could argue like three of the great and great
I don't mean like good people, but most impactful. Although
I hate that word. It's not really the way it
should be used. Impactful. It's not even a word, but
people use it all the time. Um, I think it's
probably is considered a word now. But then again, so
or is like you know, there's all these things that

(13:28):
they're changing all the time. Um. Yes, you look at Napoleon,
sort of the greatest French nationalist of all time from Corsica,
which is like I do right, not really France, like
you know, Wrench warriors were a delusional teenage girl, a
Corsican dwarf. You know, he went back and forth between
Italy and France, right, So it's like, is it really France. Um,

(13:53):
you had Joseph Stalin, who came from uh, Georgia, which
is on the frontier of the Russian Russian Empire at
the time, right, and you have Hitler much of every
those things of Hitler's being German. Hitler is Austrian, which
from from the from the sort of frontier, and and

(14:14):
you know the nationalist ultra nationalist sentiments that came from
some of these individuals and the way that they I
just think it's interesting because you know, they grew up
in places where there was that that friction of empire
and holding all together. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean,
you look at somebody like Trajan uh and uh he

(14:34):
was I believe he was Spanish. He was born in Spain.
Hold on, I'm gonna get honey, I'm gonna get the pizza.
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(14:56):
got pepperoni, sausage, bell pepper and onions. Excuse me, ho, Hey,
get the paza. This is very much like Will Ferrell
in Wedding Crashers when he's like the meat load. I'm
going to go get the pizza. Give me a minute. Yeah,
go ahead and get the pizza. That's not that's not
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he has his pizza now in hand, which is exciting
or at least at hand. I love how you just
swing right into a read. Yeah, of course is when

(16:43):
I guess post for folks, it's the part I hate
the most. But but I'm I'm a pro man. That's
you know, you got you got to use your space
in the time. You're dead. No dead air, no dead
air even on the podcast. That's how we roll. By
the way. I heard a dog pizza because I heard it.
Look he's out. Wait wait, I got a question. I
heard a dog in the background. Do you have a dog?
What do you what do you have. I have a

(17:07):
rat like uh, terrier and kind of like a little quarty. Okay,
I mean, I you know, it's funny. Um, I'm looking
at houses with the uh, with the wife, you know,
we want to actually get a house, gonna try to
start a family, that kind of stuff. And because I've
lived in just like tiny apartments my whole life, very
bachelor style. Um you know that was at one point, Yeah,

(17:28):
at one point, my my very small studio apartment in
New York was described by a young woman as uh
as as looking like something that was a shrine to uh,
like my time in the CIA, and and a sword collection.
And I was like, what guy in his early thirties
who lives alone doesn't have a bunch of weapons on

(17:49):
the wall anyway, see every squad right exactly exactly. Why
why why wouldn't I have a saber handy? I'm not
telling you what's in some of these wars around me. Yeah,
but I will say that, she laughs to Because we
go see houses, I always want to see the books
of the person who lives there, like what books they have,

(18:10):
And I just I just feel like I can I
look at the books and I get a sense I'm
like of who lives here right away every time. First
of all, I know Democrat or Republican, and she thinks
it's really funny. I mean, I've seen your books. We're
gonna talk about Inferno, and you're you know, you're an author,
a man. Here's an author who writes um thrillers. We
call it? Is that? Is that what we would describe

(18:30):
the master? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I write The People's Republic
was the first of the novels, and it's back there,
and I decided always bored, right, I bored reading these novels.
They seemed fairy cookie cutter. I want to write some
of his action pack funny and talked about what was
going on. So I imago world where America has a

(18:50):
great divorce, half of its Red, half of its blue,
and a guy from the Red has to go into
Blue America to do missions with guns, and he carries
a Wilson combat at five, which got me to meet
Bill Wilson eventually, who's just a badass gunmaker. And then
people buy this thing and they enjoyed it. Yeah, I'm
a funny guy. I'm the only O six I know

(19:13):
who was ever a stand up comic. And how to
write a joke and they're funny and action packed and interesting.
So I write a second one and a third one.
I'm writing number eight now, okay, Inferno is number seven.
It's out and there's so much fun to read, and
there's so much fun to write. And I've sold a

(19:36):
ton of these things. They'll be in the top hundred
of Amazon. And this is just, I mean, this is
just you know, a great use of technology because while
I do do nonfiction for Regory, with these I don't
have to go and ask anybody if they want to
publish it. I can publish it and I sell it

(19:58):
on Amazon, and it's professional quality, and uh, it's you know,
people love these things, and it's finally making some conservative culture. Well,
this is the thing, this is the thing that we
have to do. I've been saying for a while and
I know others say this too, but I think it
needs amplification, right that. You know, you think about um

(20:20):
Tom Wolfe, who I think people would would put as
a conservative or certainly a more traditionalist author Bonfire the Vanities.
You can read Bonfire the Vanities, which is a great novel.
I've actually got it right over here on my bookshelf,
which people can't see. But you know, I don't have
my credibility shelf behind me. It's in front of me
right now, but it's still there. I just want ever
to know I'm not you know, I'm calling it out.

(20:41):
It's still there. Bonfire the Vanity is great book, terrible movie.
So don't ever watch the movie. Tom Hanks, Goldie not
goalieh on um who was in it? Tom Hanks and
uh Bruce Willis is in it. And I was trying
to remember who the female lead was, but anyway, um,
not a good remember either. Yeah, the book was. The
book is excellent though, but you you can read that
book and you understand that we just sort of go

(21:03):
through cycles here with with democrat urban politics and the
way the city machinery works, and the way the newspapers
and the narrative and racial politics and all this stuff
comes together. We need more people creating things in that space.
And I say this is somebody who does like traditional

(21:23):
news talk radio every day. Um, obviously I think I
have a particular take on it or I've been good
at it, so I you know, I love what I do,
but I do want to actually do some of that
other stuff. I mean if I had my brothers, I'll
just tell you this, right, we nerd out together here
for a second, just you, me and the you know
the there's gonna be like hundreds of thousands of people
when all said and done, you're gonna listen to this

(21:44):
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(22:10):
even who is that? You know who Ernest Boord nine is? No,
you know Ernestine. I don't know. Anyway, we need Ernest
Boord nine. You're gonna go Ernestine of course. Of course
I was thinking Sarash from Beverly Hills, cop and anyway,
um so, I don't know if you remember Bronson, Okay.

(22:32):
I also was good friends with the sister of Lisa Ailbacher,
who was in there. She was a stand up comic
and she would never tell her real name, but we
figured it out. Good dude, you're also in LA I
would say, I'm a New York conserved guy though even
though I've moved. I've moved to Miami to join the
Florida Revolution. So and I love it here, by the way,

(22:52):
and I I don't say it's awesome like I I
just went on. I went. I went and picked up
an A R fifteen recently, and dam of defense, you'd
be very proud. It's very, very excellent. I also also
got a staccato c he too. We can talk about
this in the oh oh oh yes, oh yes. Papa
Buck doesn't mess around, you know what I mean. If

(23:13):
I'm getting firearms, yeah, it's like the Lamborghini of firearms.
Like I'm not playing games over here. But I walked
out of the gun store, and I know this is
gonna sound crazy to the people listening who are from
like normal red states. For you, the Second Amendment, there
was a part of me that kept thinking, like, I'm
gonna get arrested because in New York. Yeah, in New York,

(23:36):
if you walk out of a gun store with an
AAR fifteen, like that means somebody sold you something in
the back they weren't supposed to, and like you're in trouble,
you know what I'm saying, Like this is crazy. Yeah,
here comes to swat team. Yeah yeah, I was up.
I've got an out of state and sealed license. I
was in uh Texas where it applies, and uh, of

(23:57):
course in California, I was only a guy in charge
of thousands of guys hearing automatic rifles on the streets
of Los Angeles as a battalion commander during civil operations.
But I can't be trusted with a concealed carry permit. No,
some GS three has to decide for the colonel who
whether or not I should be armed. So I'm I

(24:21):
had a gun. I was carrying it and it felt
very weird. I know I carried guns a lot, but
you have to recock your mind when you're doing it.
You can't be allowed mouth, you can't drink a lot.
You gotta behave yourself. And it was you know, normally,
you know, Gun three, I can be an as big
an idiot as I want. Suddenly you're you know, you

(24:41):
got that glock and suddenly it's like a better Uh,
make sure I don't do anything stupid. It is remarkable.
I mean I remember even when I was sent by
the federal government to the NYPD to help the Intel
Division the CIA, the federal government had trained me to
use firearms, and I asked, I was like, so, is

(25:03):
there any way, like can I get a permit here
as as you know, a civilian essentially you know, And
they were like no, sitting. I was like, wait, but
but I mean, I don't understand, like I have a
Second Amendment and I've been trained. You guys knew you
I have a top secret clearance. And they're just like, yeah,
we don't. That doesn't that means nothing, No, No, that matters. Yeah,
you know, the gang members, they get to have the
guns and if by the way, and even if arrested

(25:25):
with them in New York at least now and a
lot of other Democrat precincts. Um, you've noticed there's a
fascinating I like to tell everybody about this card. I'm
sure you've noticed this. There is a fascinating reality of firearms,
uh law enforce or enforcing laws around firearms, where they're
always talking about how we have to crack down on guns,

(25:48):
more background checks, ban a R fifteen. So you know
all this stuff right that Biden's still talking about it.
You know this this week and they're they're talking about
the stuff all the time. You know that they basically
don't prosecute gang members for a first defense with guns
in Philadelphia, New York, Los Angeles, you go on a list.

(26:08):
So if you have a if you have a handgun
that is totally illegal for you to have because you're
a convicted felon. Anyway, a lot of district attorneys are
just saying, you know, we don't want we don't like
this is gonna make your life hard, so we're not
gonna actually prosecute you for this. But they would totally
charge me. I was gonna say, I guarantee you if
you had an illegal r if you had you know,

(26:29):
if you did something that even made if you had
an sp let's do this. If you had an spr
if you had a short bear rifle and you and
they bagged you with that in California, even if every
other firem you had was legal. You and I both
know you're going to prison. You and I both know
the dirict attorney is going to try to send you
to prison or you know, the county attorney or whatever. Absolutely, yeah,
oh yeah, so this so gang members, the gang members

(26:52):
who actually murder people, they get the pass right because
you know, all social justice. But the guy that wants
to you know, I'll actually tell you this is this
is a true story. I knew a guy in New
York who had the cops come to his home and they,
to be fair, they didn't arrest him, but they confiscated

(27:12):
his double barreled shotgun. Okay, like his Elmer Fudd. It
wasn't an overunder. I mean, it wasn't a side by side,
but it was in an over under. They confiscated a
shotgun because he was a lawful permit holder for that
long gun in New York City who had sent in
the renewal check. Because you have to renew it's not
even enough to go through the process and pay you know,

(27:34):
seven hundred dollars or whatever it is, or five hundred
dollars to get the permit the first time there's a renewal.
I think it's three years or five years or something.
He sent in a renewal check, but it was a
personal check, not a certified check. Do you think that
they reached out to him to say, you know, hello sir,
like we know you're trying to you know, the Licensing Division,
the NAPD. No. No, they just put it all on

(27:55):
a drawer with his file, waited until it came up,
and then they paid him a visit. They confiscated a
shotgun and they said we could arrescue, you know, but
we're not gonna do They didn't do that because obviously
I think people would have completely lost around. But that
is the anti firearms regime in a major city. That's
how they actually do things. Yeah, it's anti firearms for
normal people, pro firearms for you know, preferred Democrat constituencies.

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The one of the biggest problems in our country right
now is the two tiered system of law, the two
tiered system of everything. You saw it recently with Silicon
Valley Bank. Do you think a bank that somebody else
pointed out its brilliant, a bank catering a regional bank
in Texas, catering to the oil wildcatter industry, would get

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a Sunday night pass on the FDIC limits. Oh I
don't think so. The Democrat connected one in California, Oh yeah, yeah,
we can. Here you go, there's free money it's true.
I mean, the system, the ways in which the system
are rigged are so multifaceted, but also so brazen at

(29:05):
this point, but I think when people look into it,
it can be overwhelming. I want to bring I want
to bring this back to California though in a second,
as you're a Californian Conservative, and I think that's fascinating
because of what's happening in your state. We'll get to
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have you reached the tipping point? I mean, have you

(30:11):
reached a sort of terminal velocity of crazy such that
now even because this is what I always tell people,
I say, you have to remember Democrat cities because they
think that, first of all, the suffering of their stupid
policies is mostly going to be confined to other people
who are not important to them, right, So that's step one.
And then there's another step though, and this is more

(30:32):
places I think you see like Portland's Seattle, but similar
where they believe that the suffering of their dumbass policies
is a necessary, almost purification process to get to that
better place. So it's like, Okay, we have more shootings,
but we have more social and racial justice in this city, now,

(30:53):
don't we. You know? Okay, we have a whole lot
more you know, street crime, and people are overdoing fentanel
left and right, but the less class based system than
it would otherwise be you know, stuff like that. But
eventually even the Nancy Pelosi Libs are like, I don't
want you know, lunatics, Well, I mean half naked lunatic

(31:16):
attacking her husband with a hammer for example, Right, I mean,
you know stuff like that. Well, look, you're not gonna
while we have to add some crime around here. I
live in a rich, liberal area. You think you think
our cops are gonna let Hobo's Trump up and down
our streets. Of course they're not. You know, the suffering

(31:39):
in California is to the people who aren't connected, who
aren't approved, who aren't loved. For the rest of us,
it's fairly comfortable. I mean, there's annoying things that happen,
but otherwise it's you know, if you're I'm a lawyer
in a blue state. The state was literally made for me,

(32:04):
so it's not that bad, you know. I mean, there's
certainly some personal things. There's family here that I want
to stay here, and I you know, at some point
I can definitely see myself moving to the free state
of Florida. I you know, a lot of the nonsense
is exhausting, The taxes are exhausting, the idiotic policies are exhausting.

(32:31):
At some point you just want to breathe free. But
I'm not quite ready to leave yet. I don't particularly
like the idea of retreating. I don't know if California
can be turned around. It's certainly be a hard fight.
But you know, people are doing it. We're registering more
and more conservatives out here. I know Rick Grinnell's groups
registering ten thousand a month, and I think, uh, you know,

(32:55):
I think a lot of regular folks are getting sick
of nonsense. We just hopefully they'll stop voting for idiots
like Governor Hairstyle. I think you need to get some
really desirable part of the state and make it the
red stronghold and then kind of the ink blot of
red grow out from there. Or I was gonna say,

(33:18):
I know it used to be Orange County, but you
guys need to get you need to get that back,
because I think that can have a really, a really
profound effect. I mean, even just for example, I'm in
Miami now and the fact that it was right, I mean,
it went you know, more than fifty fifty for descentists.
But the difference from being the difference in quality of

(33:39):
life and policies even in a fifty fifty city, right,
So a fifty fifty city. So let maybe what I
mean here is like, can we get San Diego to
be fifty fifty Republican on the rest because it keeps
a check on the crazy in New York? In DC?
In San Francisco it's nine ten. It's literally ninety ten
in those city. Now in DC it's more like ninety

(34:02):
seven to three. Oh yeah, yeah. I just want DC
to fess earn its own sewage. It's uh, you know,
boiling your own filth um. Look, I mean everything that
the Blues touch turns to garbage. And I think normal
people are seeing that. I think, Look, I think next

(34:24):
year it's gonna be a very good year for Republicans
if we don't blow it. I think, you know, and
I wrote a town hall com has to do with
Ukraine and RHN de Santis. I think that the Republican
Republicans are going to nominate your De Santis or Trump.
It's one or the other. I don't think anybody else
has a chance, but they're effectively. By next year they're

(34:49):
going to the Republicans are going to have the anti
war candidate the Democrats are not going to have any
choice but be essentially the pro war candidate. And I think,
by you know, another eighteen months, I think the American
people are going to be firmly in the anti Ukrainian
war camp. So let me ask you this. I just
don't see anything good happening there. This is perfect. It's
almost like I see its static right now. I don't

(35:11):
see the Ukrainians being able to build up the compact
power to break the break the stalemate. I do see
Russian history tells me that Russians come back from initial defeats.
I think the Russians have the capacity to build up
combat power. So I think the best case is a
static war, which we're funding, and I think people will
be sick of it. A worst case would be a

(35:33):
Ukrainian collapse in the face of a Russian offensive, with
American intervening to try and assure them off. So this
is perfect. I don't think the American people are going
to be there, I think, and the Republicans or can
you hear me? Could you keep talking? Hold on a second,
hold on? I gotta ask you something. What should the

(35:53):
position of the Republican Party be on Ukraine? Right now
because we're asking questions or raising concerns. We're saying a
lot of money is going to this, but I never
hear really, I mean, if i'm if I'm being totally
frank about this, and you and I are two guys
who are frank I mean you're Kurt on Buck, but

(36:14):
we're being frankier and they never say, well should we?
Just what would a dissantist or Trump administration if they
were in charge now, which I know they can't be,
But what would they want the policy to be? Is
it just is it totally? Is it set limits to
the funding? Is it set limits the aid? Or is

(36:35):
it this is not our problem, not our fight. Zelenski's
funding under a Republican administration, assuming this war is still
going on, goes down to basically zero at least for
combat operations. Should that be the policy? What should the
policy be? Well, look, we have to have a strategy
which requires objectives, and we haven't talked about any of
that because the minute somebody responds to the reactive tactics,

(37:01):
there's always seen our tactics. We haven't seen a strategy. Certainly,
you love Putin and I love being told I love
Putin by a guy who is never in the Cold War,
who actually went out and marched for the KGB's nuclear freeze,
telling me, you know you love Putin. I you know,
I literally trained Ukrainian soldiers. There were Ukrainian soldiers in

(37:22):
our battalion in Kosa, our brigade in Kosova. I like
the Ukrainians. I support them. I would like them to win.
They're patriots. I understand why they're doing what they want
to do. But I'm an American patriot, and my interest
is my country. Our strategic interests as America right now
is not Ukraine. It is to preserve American supremacy and

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make sure the Chinese don't supplant us. What would support that?
That is the strategy, A strategy, A smart one would
be to get Russia back in the Western Fold. I
have long said that the greatest American foreign policy mistake
in the last three decades was not a Rack or Afghanistan,

(38:06):
but the failure to bring Russia into the West after
the fall of the Soviet Union. It got botched, and
then suddenly in the last eight years it's been like
politically useful domestically to hate Russia. You don't have to
like Russia. You just need Russia to be on our
side against China. So that should be our strategy. And
starting that process and it will be a process means

(38:29):
making peace in Ukraine. Now, Ukrainians won't like it because
they'll have to give up territory. Putin won't like it
because he's not going to get everything he wants. But
I think our strategy. You know, are you know? To
support our strategy? We should make peace, force peace down
these guys throats, because it's non American interest for this

(38:52):
war to continue. I know it's not just I know
it wreck it will recognize an aggressor will get some
reward out of it. But I'm an American. I care
about the United States of America. That's my priority, and
that's what supports a meaningful objective which is much bigger

(39:12):
than Ukraine. Kurt, we gotta let you get to your
delicious pizza. I can almost smell it, even though I
guess it's technically a few thousand miles away. Your books, though,
where's people go? Amazon? Which one is latest one? Let's
sell some books here? Go to Amazon, Get Inferno, but
get get get People's Republic. The first one you'll like it.
It's fun. You'll want to read all seven I have sold.

(39:33):
A bunch of these concervatives are begging for material, and boy,
if only we could convince one of the studios to
make it. But it's a little unpec it's a little
not politically correct. Maybe it'd be a real hard, hard
kill for them to swallow. But they make great movies.

(39:54):
There are a lot of good to me. I'm I'm
gonna go get a copy. Kirch look here, everybody also
look for him on town hall dot com. Kurt always
a pleasure, sir, we'll talk soon. Thanks for having me.