May 22, 2025 • 23 mins
In this episode, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz discuss Joe Biden's health and the media's lackluster response, demographic shifts affecting political landscapes, censorship in politics, parental rights in the context of trans activism, and a light-hearted take on sports news, including flag football in the Olympics! Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, we are that Colin and Normway the show with
normal it takes for when the news gets weird. I
am Mary Katherine ham Man.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Carol Marcoiz, I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How's it going, Hey, you know, I'm just learning all
the breaking news still about Biden being sick and old
and infirm and losing his mind and having cancer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, it's funny because the liberals who denied it for
so long are now coming to terms with the fact
that they lied about it, and they were lied to.
Let's say, let's give them that tiny, tiny benefit of
the doubt, which I don't really believe. Then we have
in the Atlantic today a story Biden's age wasn't to
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cover up. It was observable fact. And the argument goes
that the former president was old, deal with it. There's
nothing new here. I'm not entirely sure that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, also, the logic is so circular. Sure, everyone in
the industry whose job it is to tell you these
things are happening ignored it was happening even though it
was observable fact, asked no questions about it. Claims ignorance, which,
by the way, if it was observable fact why are
you so dumb? Not the guy who wrote this, actually,
because he did write earlier about Biden being old and
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should he shouldn't run. But they then they used the
fact that it's observable although it tricked most of them,
and they ignored it to say, well, the cover up
doesn't matter because it's not much of a cover up.
Of eighty percent of Americans understood. It's like it just
it's so self serving and so nicsensical.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But the twenty percent who didn't think that Biden was
too old to run are in the top echelon of
our media.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So that is a problem we do need to talk
about it. I also don't like about this piece now Leaviovich.
This is Mark Leaviovich, who is a bit of like
a man around type columnist. But the tone of this
is you could read it in Lady Thistledown's voice, the
near the voiceover from Bridgerton, like it is. It's like.
(02:11):
For the latest chapter in this saga, we give thanks
to a new book out today whose arrival has been
as hotly anticipated around Washington as a Sunday card at
the Senior Home. It's vertically titled Original Sin, The Book
that Seeing and host Jake Tapper and Axios's Alex Thompson
offers the latest after action report of the calamitous culmination
of Biden's career. I mean, it's just the book depicts
(02:32):
a kind of West wing Weekend at Bernie's, with Biden
playing the frail, prideful and self deluded leader. Well, yeah,
we've been making that joke for six years now.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Weekend at Bernie's is an overplayed joke at this point,
because that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Funny. It's like, there are I feel like a couple
of people in media in the left who like probably
saw that before, like right wing conspiracy mongering, and now
they're like, hardy horror, we will make the joke, Like
y'all are just the joke now got here? And Laimovich,
due to his flippant tone, makes himself look bad when
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he's a person who should get credit because he wrote
like three columns in The Atlantic saying this guy's too
old and shouldn't run.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, and he look, he gives himself the credit and the.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Piece, but like, how are you on the right side
of this issue and still disgrace yourself on the coverage
of this issue?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's amazing it's really impressive, you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Know, like it's not much of a cover up. I'm
just not that interested, like you guys are You guys
are like really freaking out about this.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right right right? And of course there's the additional part
about the cancer, which it is. I mean, it has
to be a cover up, is what everybody's coming down to.
Even people on the left are talking to doctors and saying,
it's impossible that he just found out that he had
stage four cancer the day, you know that it became
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super popular to talk about how how much covering up
that White House did. It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Can I read you something from Please's original sin that
Anthony la Mesa flagged And this to me is like
so incredibly damning, particularly coming as it does the week
of the prostate cancer diagnosis. This is about Bo. Bo's
cancer treatment also demonstrated the Biden's capacity for denial and
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the links they would go to to avoid transparency about
health issues, even when the person in question is an
elected official, in this case, the sitting Attorney General of Delaware.
In summer twenty thirteen, Bo had surgery after collapsing during
a vacation and a stage four tumor was removed from
his brain. Bo then started to do fewer public appearances,
stopped doing like lengthy interviews, and appeared gaunt. Does any
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of this sound familiar? Despite all this, the Bidens didn't
disclose anything, and in November twenty thirteen, Bo toted a
local reporter that he had a clean bill of health.
It goes on to say he would remain the sitting
Attorney general of Delaware. He flew all over the country,
presumably not doing his job during those periods of time
to have experimental treatments. The then vice president lied about
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where he was, Yeah, when he would fly to meet him.
Bo's wife, Hallie was arguing this family, saying, I don't
understand why we can't disclose this. It doesn't seem right.
But let me just if they were willing to do this, yeah,
to hold on to the attorney general position in Delaware,
imagine what they were willing to do to hold on
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to the presidency. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it's a tell to tell.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, we're just running the same play, and the media
was happy to run the play with them several times.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, and that media was so fine with doing that.
They just thought this was their responsibility. To cover up
for Biden, and that's it. I believe we have a
clip to that effect.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, on News, Alex Thompson is talking to Leland Vintert
and he has this to say about some of the
Biden folks reaction to the media's reaction to their cover up.
Here we go. I think when you were reporting this,
did people in his inner circle? Did those that you
talked to acknowledge that the media were they surprised by
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how complicit the media was.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It was interesting. I had one conversation with someone, this
was after the election while we were reporting this book,
and this person said, listen, yes, we deserve.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Blame for X y Z.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We were hiding him. We were, but this person also
sort of got my face and they said, listen, the
media deserves some blame too, Like we were sort of
amazed at some of the stuff we were able to spin. Again,
went on, they in some way bank Robert complaining safe, Yeah,
they're just like you guys. You guys should not have
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believed us so easily. And I thought that was like
a really interesting but I also think that's true. I
think I think the media in a lot of ways
just was not skeptical enough and did not remember the
lesson that they do it to different degrees, but every
White House lives.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean the idea that you have to tell
the press that I mean, they know that they're just
willing to do the lying for the other side.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Else This is kind of a tangential issue, but it's
kind of amazing to me how the conservative media is
covering this book, because would the liberal media ever cover
one of our books in such a manner? Would they
give us interviews on all of their shows? Would they
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allow us to tell our side of the story and
how we saw the time that we had gotten completely
wrong again, not Alex Thompson, but Jake Tapper for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, it certainly wouldn't break it into the mainstream coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right, would there we talk of a Hollywood blockbuster about
one of these books. Obviously none of that would happen.
But it just the fact that conservatives do talk to
the liberals in a way that the liberals just do
not talk to conservatives.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and I think Charles Cook was tweeting
today like, hey, you guys got all this wrong, and
the media's like yeah, and he's like, so the people
who got it right will get the book deals and
the movie deals and such, right, and they're like, oh no, no, no,
who's going to get those other people who got it?
Like that's that's how this, that's how this works. Unfortunately.
(08:28):
Can I note this new study about twenty twenty four's
demographic shifts and all of this that came out of Catalyst.
It's very detailed, but I just want to run through
because look, there should be like congressional hearings over this.
People should be punished, people should never work again in
politics or public service because of what they perpetrated in
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the Biden White House. However, if we don't get that,
which I don't have a lot of confidence in, if
we don't get that, there's a cosmic pain that the
Democratic Party is suffering. And let me just read through
it for you. These are these subheads on the Amy
Walter piece in cook political report on this study of
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what happened in twenty twenty four. Here they are, how
don't even need to go into the details. The Obama
coalition turned into the Trump coalition. Men, especially men of color,
shifted towards Republicans. Women didn't rally for Harris and Latina
women moved right younger voters, especially voters of color, shifted
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right super voters. They're you know, older boomers were older,
less racially diverse, and less urban, and new voters were
the least democratic. Ever, every self conception they have of
what makes them cool and special and morally correct and
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hip is obliterated by this election.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's amazing. It's amazing, and there's very little self correction
going on. Like we're not going to get into immigration today,
but on immigration, which I think was Trump's top issue,
they are still defending illegal immigration, like as in, we
should stop kicking out illegal immigrants, we should not be
(10:17):
so hard on illegal immigrants. It's wild, like you just
lost everything on this issue. You're really going to continue
to push it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, you're going to end up with a Trump coalition
that next time around. Still looks like I kid you
not from this report, fifty seven percent women and people
of color. Mm hm okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good luck with that. We'll be right back on normally.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Moving on. There's a couple of sort of transactivist stories
going on right now that I wanted to flag. The
first of it which made it to the Supreme Court,
which is that a main state representative Laurel Livy, who
spoke out on the floor of her state legislature about
the main government's insistence on defying Donald Trump's executive order
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and putting men in women's sports in the state of Maine.
She spoke out about this on the floor. She was censured.
The way that they censured her in this state body
was to not allow her to speak on the floor
or to vote. She has constituents who currently are unrepresented.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yep, and nobody spoke to her. Everybody like gave her
the cold shoulder and like it's like, what are you
guys doing?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like what is this? So she goes to a lower
court and says, hey, my people don't have representation right now.
This is a speech issue. This is a representation issue,
Like you can't do this. And lower Court's like, now,
we're not going to enjoin that. We'll get to it later.
She goes emergency to the Supreme Court. The emergency Court
the emergency docket agrees to see it seven to two
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in favor of Laura Libby, who must be like re
put into her position for the moment. But what was
telling is that I'm sure you can guess who the
two dissenters were They were Jackson and so Tom I
Kagan on the right side of this. But what struck
me is that Jackson's descent is like, hey, you haven't
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proved that this is an issue like your your speech.
First of all, I think it's icky. Second of all,
second all, they probably have a right to censure you,
censure you. And third, you haven't showed me that any
votes coming up are going to be decided by your vote.
So why do those people need representation? And why do
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you need speech rights?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Why does anybody need representation? At that point, you only
need representation if you're the deciding vote. That's the only
time that you should vote. Yeah, wait a minute, I
think I like this.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, it's it's wild to me that it had to
go to the Supreme Court. I'm glad to see seven
to two. It should have been nine to zero. What
when you is embarrassing when you see the descent and
you realize, oh, this is just she doesn't believe that Libby,
if she's saying icky things to her mind, has these rights.
(13:12):
These are not fundamental rights. This is like something else
that's something she objects to, and therefore that story.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
The Libby story, it just it should give everyone pause
on both sides. But of course it doesn't. Again, it doesn't.
It's it's just the left protects themselves in a way
that I just don't think the right does. Again, if
the right did this, we would have a dozen think
pieces about how inappropriated it is to take away presentation
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from voters, not allow somebody who you disagree with to speak.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
People like you and I would be like, they can't
do that to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This person, right, We would cover it on normally and
say this is wrong. It just it does not happen
in the same fashion on the left. It drives me crazy,
that double standard and the way that they just think
that everything that they do is correct and they don't
self police at all. Yeah really until they can get
a book deal out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And part of that is because they're just results based,
which is what you see in this dissent from Jackson.
She's just like, well, I don't like this case. Right. Therefore,
another story out of Loudun County, which is near me,
and this is the famous one that there was a
huge story during the Younkin election that helped turn that
one about the inability of Louden County schools to protect
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their own students and their lack of transparency about things
like sexual assault inside the schools. In this case, a
girl who identifies as a boy had access to a
male locker room and was in the male locker room
changing with teenage boys and filmed said teenage boys in
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the locker room. The teenage boys objected to this, and
Louden County Schools is investigating the boys. Wild the boys
Latin County is so perfectly crazy it almost sounds fake
every time you hear one of these stories. It's absolutely real.
(15:14):
By the way, in that old story, they arrested the
dad of the assault victim because he had the temerity
to come to a school remaining and say, hey, you're
covering up the assault of my child. Yeah, they had
him arrested.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So just to tie those two stories together, Laura Libby
was censured because she posted a photo of a biologically
male athlete who had won the state championship in women's
pull vaulting, and it was that social media post that
got her censured and unable to vote or speak in
the main state house. Now, it's ironic that she was
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not in a locker room, she was not taking pictures
that she wasn't allowed to be taking. She just posted
a picture of an athlete that she didn't feel belonged
in women's.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Which was a publicly available photo.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, right, yeah, but they considered it bullying and therefore
she was censured.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But this, I believe the phrase, by the way, is
endangering a minor is what she did. M right? Yeah, yeah,
young young boys being filmed in a locker room by
a person of the opposite sex, So they don't get privacy, right,
they don't get to object to that, to that, And
that's that's the thing about so much of the transactivism
is that if you don't go straight from having your
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comfort zone violated, celebrating having your right zone violated, or
having your metal taken from you, they're like, aha, I
think we need an investigation of this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah. I'll also say that it's interesting because a lot
of the times it's girl spaces that are violated in
this manner. It's pretty rare that it's boy spaces. You know,
if a biological girl wants to play in boy sports,
go for it. You know, it's not really lug Yeah, yeah,
good luck with that. But this is interesting because it
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shows it really does affect kids of both sexes, and
it's should just be something that we understand to NOTPU allowed.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
One more story on this front, just so that everybody
knows about it, because Colorado is also sort of perfectly
crazy and casting itself in this role. Lately, Colorado's state
government pasted a rule that misgendering your child or not
supporting your child in a transition will be used as
part of custody discussions and it will be considered a
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harm that you're doing to your child potentially and would
change the way that custody disputes are resolved. This is insane.
It's obviously a speech issue because the government can't say
that you can't call your kid a sheet. By the way,
I also love that the government makes you turn in
a birth certificate where you choose all these things, and
they're like, you can't use that dead name that you
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turned into us. That we mate the documentation and last
fifteen years. Anyway, parents defending freedom are defending education board. Yep,
thank you very much for all your work. Great organization
is suing over that as a speech issue, and so
hopefully the parents of Colorado will no longer have to
live in such fear. After you guys take care of that.
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But it's an insane idea.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Nicki Neely is the president of Defending Education. And if
you are doing bad things in your state and you
see Nicki Neely coming, run run. She is unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Queen lawsuit, Queen's communications, Queen. She will think she sleeps.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
She just works all the time. When we have our
board meetings, it's like we're all just like, what you
did all that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then she'll be like in Rome homeschooling and You're like, wow,
how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I appreciate that very much, and I think it
will do the parents of Colorado a lot of good
to have her on the case.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We're going to take a short break and come right
back with normally.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Do we want to do a little sports before we
close out? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I want to say about our third topic. We
try to make the third topic a little lighter and
Earlier today I heard a story about how some the
Washingtonian magazine has a story about Republican female makeup and
how we all look the same. We're skipping that story
to bring you a football story. Okay, that is how
much we want to be representative of all of our audience.
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We don't want to just focus on fashion and beauty.
I mean I do, but apparently we can.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So well apparently the NFL. And so the Olympics is
going to have flag football in twenty twenty eight, and
the NFL has said that NFL players can play in
the Olympics on a flag football team. That's incredible for
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the United States. This is going to be amazing. Yeah,
because for NFL players, it's just the strongest, toughest people
in the world who regularly do this as a warm up,
doing it in competition for gold medals, like I am
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so here for it. And because it's flag football, we
won't be actually, you know, laying out or hurting any
European footballers who have decided to play the real football. Instead,
we'll just be running circles around them. Can you imagine
these people blinding up against white outs from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's going to be amazing. It's like a Slovakian like
plumber who plays flag football on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Or like the Australian breakdancer. She's going to show up
and be like I will stop you, Xavir Leggott, No,
you will not.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's like that when the NBA Dream Team played in
the Olympics and it was like completely unstoppable and just yeah,
it's our Sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's just going to be easier than they're warm up right.
See now, Now, if this goes wrong somehow horribly, yes,
we can come back to this clip and I will
write a best selling book about how I was wrong
about I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, so you know, I'm also I'm Russian, so this jinxing.
You know, we can't be called the fairpoint. We have
to touch wood and like spit spit, Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I will do that, but flag football, come on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
In other football news, the tush push is going to
be allowed. Apparently the NFL was considering banning the tush push,
and uh, you know, I I'm minorly interested in sports.
So when my my amazing neighbors Dana and Adam texted
my husband and I with the words tush push for
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the wind, I had.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No idea what was going on. You actually just thought
they were swingers all of a sudden or something like,
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Anyone pushing any tissues?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, I'm excited about that. I said, it's a legit move.
If you're not strong enough to make it work, it's
not going to work. These guys are hitting the gym.
They can make the toush push work.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Go for it, right, I'm pro tush push.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Why not? There we go? Now you have it?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do we have another sports angle? Is Bill Belichick engaged?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh? Yes? One last quick update. Apparently apparently he got
his boat got a new paint job, which fueled engagement
rumors because it talked about how many rings he had
and it was there was an extra one involved.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh yeah, interesting because I only saw the headline and
I'm like, I guess he painted his boat for her.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, that would be a very clever way to
debut and engagement if I'm really honest.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right, it's his girlfriend's in her twenties and that's a
very instagrammy.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Look. As long as she's not running the football programs, yeah,
I'm fine with it. Then the problem seems to be
that she might be running them football right.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Hopefully that's not going to be the case. Best of luck,
you know, to them both. We're not haters over here
on normally.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Good luck to you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Carol Marcoiz, I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How's it going, Hey, you know, I'm just learning all
the breaking news still about Biden being sick and old
and infirm and losing his mind and having cancer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, it's funny because the liberals who denied it for
so long are now coming to terms with the fact
that they lied about it, and they were lied to.
Let's say, let's give them that tiny, tiny benefit of
the doubt, which I don't really believe. Then we have
in the Atlantic today a story Biden's age wasn't to
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cover up. It was observable fact. And the argument goes
that the former president was old, deal with it. There's
nothing new here. I'm not entirely sure that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, also, the logic is so circular. Sure, everyone in
the industry whose job it is to tell you these
things are happening ignored it was happening even though it
was observable fact, asked no questions about it. Claims ignorance, which,
by the way, if it was observable fact why are
you so dumb? Not the guy who wrote this, actually,
because he did write earlier about Biden being old and
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should he shouldn't run. But they then they used the
fact that it's observable although it tricked most of them,
and they ignored it to say, well, the cover up
doesn't matter because it's not much of a cover up.
Of eighty percent of Americans understood. It's like it just
it's so self serving and so nicsensical.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But the twenty percent who didn't think that Biden was
too old to run are in the top echelon of
our media.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So that is a problem we do need to talk
about it. I also don't like about this piece now Leaviovich.
This is Mark Leaviovich, who is a bit of like
a man around type columnist. But the tone of this
is you could read it in Lady Thistledown's voice, the
near the voiceover from Bridgerton, like it is. It's like.
(02:11):
For the latest chapter in this saga, we give thanks
to a new book out today whose arrival has been
as hotly anticipated around Washington as a Sunday card at
the Senior Home. It's vertically titled Original Sin, The Book
that Seeing and host Jake Tapper and Axios's Alex Thompson
offers the latest after action report of the calamitous culmination
of Biden's career. I mean, it's just the book depicts
(02:32):
a kind of West wing Weekend at Bernie's, with Biden
playing the frail, prideful and self deluded leader. Well, yeah,
we've been making that joke for six years now.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Weekend at Bernie's is an overplayed joke at this point,
because that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Funny. It's like, there are I feel like a couple
of people in media in the left who like probably
saw that before, like right wing conspiracy mongering, and now
they're like, hardy horror, we will make the joke, Like
y'all are just the joke now got here? And Laimovich,
due to his flippant tone, makes himself look bad when
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he's a person who should get credit because he wrote
like three columns in The Atlantic saying this guy's too
old and shouldn't run.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, and he look, he gives himself the credit and the.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Piece, but like, how are you on the right side
of this issue and still disgrace yourself on the coverage
of this issue?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's amazing it's really impressive, you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Know, like it's not much of a cover up. I'm
just not that interested, like you guys are You guys
are like really freaking out about this.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Right right right? And of course there's the additional part
about the cancer, which it is. I mean, it has
to be a cover up, is what everybody's coming down to.
Even people on the left are talking to doctors and saying,
it's impossible that he just found out that he had
stage four cancer the day, you know that it became
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super popular to talk about how how much covering up
that White House did. It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Can I read you something from Please's original sin that
Anthony la Mesa flagged And this to me is like
so incredibly damning, particularly coming as it does the week
of the prostate cancer diagnosis. This is about Bo. Bo's
cancer treatment also demonstrated the Biden's capacity for denial and
(04:26):
the links they would go to to avoid transparency about
health issues, even when the person in question is an
elected official, in this case, the sitting Attorney General of Delaware.
In summer twenty thirteen, Bo had surgery after collapsing during
a vacation and a stage four tumor was removed from
his brain. Bo then started to do fewer public appearances,
stopped doing like lengthy interviews, and appeared gaunt. Does any
(04:47):
of this sound familiar? Despite all this, the Bidens didn't
disclose anything, and in November twenty thirteen, Bo toted a
local reporter that he had a clean bill of health.
It goes on to say he would remain the sitting
Attorney general of Delaware. He flew all over the country,
presumably not doing his job during those periods of time
to have experimental treatments. The then vice president lied about
(05:09):
where he was, Yeah, when he would fly to meet him.
Bo's wife, Hallie was arguing this family, saying, I don't
understand why we can't disclose this. It doesn't seem right.
But let me just if they were willing to do this, yeah,
to hold on to the attorney general position in Delaware,
imagine what they were willing to do to hold on
(05:31):
to the presidency. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, it's a tell to tell.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, we're just running the same play, and the media
was happy to run the play with them several times.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, and that media was so fine with doing that.
They just thought this was their responsibility. To cover up
for Biden, and that's it. I believe we have a
clip to that effect.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, on News, Alex Thompson is talking to Leland Vintert
and he has this to say about some of the
Biden folks reaction to the media's reaction to their cover up.
Here we go. I think when you were reporting this,
did people in his inner circle? Did those that you
talked to acknowledge that the media were they surprised by
(06:19):
how complicit the media was.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It was interesting. I had one conversation with someone, this
was after the election while we were reporting this book,
and this person said, listen, yes, we deserve.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Blame for X y Z.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We were hiding him. We were, but this person also
sort of got my face and they said, listen, the
media deserves some blame too, Like we were sort of
amazed at some of the stuff we were able to spin. Again,
went on, they in some way bank Robert complaining safe, Yeah,
they're just like you guys. You guys should not have
(06:53):
believed us so easily. And I thought that was like
a really interesting but I also think that's true. I
think I think the media in a lot of ways
just was not skeptical enough and did not remember the
lesson that they do it to different degrees, but every
White House lives.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, I mean the idea that you have to tell
the press that I mean, they know that they're just
willing to do the lying for the other side.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Else This is kind of a tangential issue, but it's
kind of amazing to me how the conservative media is
covering this book, because would the liberal media ever cover
one of our books in such a manner? Would they
give us interviews on all of their shows? Would they
(07:40):
allow us to tell our side of the story and
how we saw the time that we had gotten completely
wrong again, not Alex Thompson, but Jake Tapper for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, it certainly wouldn't break it into the mainstream coverage.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Right, would there we talk of a Hollywood blockbuster about
one of these books. Obviously none of that would happen.
But it just the fact that conservatives do talk to
the liberals in a way that the liberals just do
not talk to conservatives.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, and I think Charles Cook was tweeting
today like, hey, you guys got all this wrong, and
the media's like yeah, and he's like, so the people
who got it right will get the book deals and
the movie deals and such, right, and they're like, oh no, no, no,
who's going to get those other people who got it?
Like that's that's how this, that's how this works. Unfortunately.
(08:28):
Can I note this new study about twenty twenty four's
demographic shifts and all of this that came out of Catalyst.
It's very detailed, but I just want to run through
because look, there should be like congressional hearings over this.
People should be punished, people should never work again in
politics or public service because of what they perpetrated in
(08:49):
the Biden White House. However, if we don't get that,
which I don't have a lot of confidence in, if
we don't get that, there's a cosmic pain that the
Democratic Party is suffering. And let me just read through
it for you. These are these subheads on the Amy
Walter piece in cook political report on this study of
(09:09):
what happened in twenty twenty four. Here they are, how
don't even need to go into the details. The Obama
coalition turned into the Trump coalition. Men, especially men of color,
shifted towards Republicans. Women didn't rally for Harris and Latina
women moved right younger voters, especially voters of color, shifted
(09:32):
right super voters. They're you know, older boomers were older,
less racially diverse, and less urban, and new voters were
the least democratic. Ever, every self conception they have of
what makes them cool and special and morally correct and
(09:52):
hip is obliterated by this election.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's amazing. It's amazing, and there's very little self correction
going on. Like we're not going to get into immigration today,
but on immigration, which I think was Trump's top issue,
they are still defending illegal immigration, like as in, we
should stop kicking out illegal immigrants, we should not be
(10:17):
so hard on illegal immigrants. It's wild, like you just
lost everything on this issue. You're really going to continue
to push it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, you're going to end up with a Trump coalition
that next time around. Still looks like I kid you
not from this report, fifty seven percent women and people
of color. Mm hm okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good luck with that. We'll be right back on normally.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Moving on. There's a couple of sort of transactivist stories
going on right now that I wanted to flag. The
first of it which made it to the Supreme Court,
which is that a main state representative Laurel Livy, who
spoke out on the floor of her state legislature about
the main government's insistence on defying Donald Trump's executive order
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and putting men in women's sports in the state of Maine.
She spoke out about this on the floor. She was censured.
The way that they censured her in this state body
was to not allow her to speak on the floor
or to vote. She has constituents who currently are unrepresented.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yep, and nobody spoke to her. Everybody like gave her
the cold shoulder and like it's like, what are you
guys doing?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Like what is this? So she goes to a lower
court and says, hey, my people don't have representation right now.
This is a speech issue. This is a representation issue,
Like you can't do this. And lower Court's like, now,
we're not going to enjoin that. We'll get to it later.
She goes emergency to the Supreme Court. The emergency Court
the emergency docket agrees to see it seven to two
(11:53):
in favor of Laura Libby, who must be like re
put into her position for the moment. But what was
telling is that I'm sure you can guess who the
two dissenters were They were Jackson and so Tom I
Kagan on the right side of this. But what struck
me is that Jackson's descent is like, hey, you haven't
(12:16):
proved that this is an issue like your your speech.
First of all, I think it's icky. Second of all,
second all, they probably have a right to censure you,
censure you. And third, you haven't showed me that any
votes coming up are going to be decided by your vote.
So why do those people need representation? And why do
(12:37):
you need speech rights?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Why does anybody need representation? At that point, you only
need representation if you're the deciding vote. That's the only
time that you should vote. Yeah, wait a minute, I
think I like this.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, it's it's wild to me that it had to
go to the Supreme Court. I'm glad to see seven
to two. It should have been nine to zero. What
when you is embarrassing when you see the descent and
you realize, oh, this is just she doesn't believe that Libby,
if she's saying icky things to her mind, has these rights.
(13:12):
These are not fundamental rights. This is like something else
that's something she objects to, and therefore that story.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
The Libby story, it just it should give everyone pause
on both sides. But of course it doesn't. Again, it doesn't.
It's it's just the left protects themselves in a way
that I just don't think the right does. Again, if
the right did this, we would have a dozen think
pieces about how inappropriated it is to take away presentation
(13:41):
from voters, not allow somebody who you disagree with to speak.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
People like you and I would be like, they can't
do that to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This person, right, We would cover it on normally and
say this is wrong. It just it does not happen
in the same fashion on the left. It drives me crazy,
that double standard and the way that they just think
that everything that they do is correct and they don't
self police at all. Yeah really until they can get
a book deal out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And part of that is because they're just results based,
which is what you see in this dissent from Jackson.
She's just like, well, I don't like this case. Right. Therefore,
another story out of Loudun County, which is near me,
and this is the famous one that there was a
huge story during the Younkin election that helped turn that
one about the inability of Louden County schools to protect
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their own students and their lack of transparency about things
like sexual assault inside the schools. In this case, a
girl who identifies as a boy had access to a
male locker room and was in the male locker room
changing with teenage boys and filmed said teenage boys in
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the locker room. The teenage boys objected to this, and
Louden County Schools is investigating the boys. Wild the boys
Latin County is so perfectly crazy it almost sounds fake
every time you hear one of these stories. It's absolutely real.
(15:14):
By the way, in that old story, they arrested the
dad of the assault victim because he had the temerity
to come to a school remaining and say, hey, you're
covering up the assault of my child. Yeah, they had
him arrested.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So just to tie those two stories together, Laura Libby
was censured because she posted a photo of a biologically
male athlete who had won the state championship in women's
pull vaulting, and it was that social media post that
got her censured and unable to vote or speak in
the main state house. Now, it's ironic that she was
(15:52):
not in a locker room, she was not taking pictures
that she wasn't allowed to be taking. She just posted
a picture of an athlete that she didn't feel belonged
in women's.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Which was a publicly available photo.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, right, yeah, but they considered it bullying and therefore
she was censured.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But this, I believe the phrase, by the way, is
endangering a minor is what she did. M right? Yeah, yeah,
young young boys being filmed in a locker room by
a person of the opposite sex, So they don't get privacy, right,
they don't get to object to that, to that, And
that's that's the thing about so much of the transactivism
is that if you don't go straight from having your
(16:32):
comfort zone violated, celebrating having your right zone violated, or
having your metal taken from you, they're like, aha, I
think we need an investigation of this.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah. I'll also say that it's interesting because a lot
of the times it's girl spaces that are violated in
this manner. It's pretty rare that it's boy spaces. You know,
if a biological girl wants to play in boy sports,
go for it. You know, it's not really lug Yeah, yeah,
good luck with that. But this is interesting because it
(17:05):
shows it really does affect kids of both sexes, and
it's should just be something that we understand to NOTPU allowed.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
One more story on this front, just so that everybody
knows about it, because Colorado is also sort of perfectly
crazy and casting itself in this role. Lately, Colorado's state
government pasted a rule that misgendering your child or not
supporting your child in a transition will be used as
part of custody discussions and it will be considered a
(17:38):
harm that you're doing to your child potentially and would
change the way that custody disputes are resolved. This is insane.
It's obviously a speech issue because the government can't say
that you can't call your kid a sheet. By the way,
I also love that the government makes you turn in
a birth certificate where you choose all these things, and
they're like, you can't use that dead name that you
(17:58):
turned into us. That we mate the documentation and last
fifteen years. Anyway, parents defending freedom are defending education board. Yep,
thank you very much for all your work. Great organization
is suing over that as a speech issue, and so
hopefully the parents of Colorado will no longer have to
live in such fear. After you guys take care of that.
(18:22):
But it's an insane idea.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Nicki Neely is the president of Defending Education. And if
you are doing bad things in your state and you
see Nicki Neely coming, run run. She is unstoppable.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Queen lawsuit, Queen's communications, Queen. She will think she sleeps.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
She just works all the time. When we have our
board meetings, it's like we're all just like, what you
did all that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And then she'll be like in Rome homeschooling and You're like, wow,
how did that happen?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
So I appreciate that very much, and I think it
will do the parents of Colorado a lot of good
to have her on the case.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We're going to take a short break and come right
back with normally.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Do we want to do a little sports before we
close out? You know?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And I want to say about our third topic. We
try to make the third topic a little lighter and
Earlier today I heard a story about how some the
Washingtonian magazine has a story about Republican female makeup and
how we all look the same. We're skipping that story
to bring you a football story. Okay, that is how
much we want to be representative of all of our audience.
(19:34):
We don't want to just focus on fashion and beauty.
I mean I do, but apparently we can.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So well apparently the NFL. And so the Olympics is
going to have flag football in twenty twenty eight, and
the NFL has said that NFL players can play in
the Olympics on a flag football team. That's incredible for
(19:59):
the United States. This is going to be amazing. Yeah,
because for NFL players, it's just the strongest, toughest people
in the world who regularly do this as a warm up,
doing it in competition for gold medals, like I am
(20:20):
so here for it. And because it's flag football, we
won't be actually, you know, laying out or hurting any
European footballers who have decided to play the real football. Instead,
we'll just be running circles around them. Can you imagine
these people blinding up against white outs from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's going to be amazing. It's like a Slovakian like
plumber who plays flag football on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Or like the Australian breakdancer. She's going to show up
and be like I will stop you, Xavir Leggott, No,
you will not.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's like that when the NBA Dream Team played in
the Olympics and it was like completely unstoppable and just yeah,
it's our Sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's just going to be easier than they're warm up right.
See now, Now, if this goes wrong somehow horribly, yes,
we can come back to this clip and I will
write a best selling book about how I was wrong
about I love it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, so you know, I'm also I'm Russian, so this jinxing.
You know, we can't be called the fairpoint. We have
to touch wood and like spit spit, Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I will do that, but flag football, come on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
In other football news, the tush push is going to
be allowed. Apparently the NFL was considering banning the tush push,
and uh, you know, I I'm minorly interested in sports.
So when my my amazing neighbors Dana and Adam texted
my husband and I with the words tush push for
(21:50):
the wind, I had.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No idea what was going on. You actually just thought
they were swingers all of a sudden or something like,
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Anyone pushing any tissues?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, I'm excited about that. I said, it's a legit move.
If you're not strong enough to make it work, it's
not going to work. These guys are hitting the gym.
They can make the toush push work.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Go for it, right, I'm pro tush push.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Why not? There we go? Now you have it?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Do we have another sports angle? Is Bill Belichick engaged?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Oh? Yes? One last quick update. Apparently apparently he got
his boat got a new paint job, which fueled engagement
rumors because it talked about how many rings he had
and it was there was an extra one involved.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh yeah, interesting because I only saw the headline and
I'm like, I guess he painted his boat for her.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, that would be a very clever way to
debut and engagement if I'm really honest.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Right, it's his girlfriend's in her twenties and that's a
very instagrammy.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Look. As long as she's not running the football programs, yeah,
I'm fine with it. Then the problem seems to be
that she might be running them football right.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Hopefully that's not going to be the case. Best of luck,
you know, to them both. We're not haters over here
on normally.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Good luck to you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
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