August 12, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Mary Katharine and Karol cover a wide range of headlines in this episode — from Vinay Prasad’s return to the FDA and Trump’s strategy for tackling crime in Washington, D.C., to the media’s spin on crime statistics. They dig into rising youth crime and its legal fallout, political shifts in Virginia, heated debates over school policies in Fairfax County, and Andrew Cuomo’s surprising reemergence on the political stage. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Guys are back on. Normally the show with normal it
takes for when the news gets weird. I am my
captain and.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I am Carol Marco's we have some good news to
kick off. This show normally gets results. Vina Prosad is
back at the FDA.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's true, It's true. It's so exciting, and that is
a that is a big one to come back from.
And I'm glad that the powers that be made that
decision that they were prevailed upon that he was good.
I'm glad that he accepted the position, because once you've
been burned like that, it's probably pretty hard to say, sure,
I'll go work for the government again, which is why
(00:41):
we lose good people. Absolutely, so I love this news.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, so you know, I really I credit this show.
I mean I think we did it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So direct line, Yeah, direct line at us on the
back well. And also what it may mean, as we
noted in our last episode when we were talking about
that is a falling down the depth chart of the
lumor campaign against whomever she wants in the it's great
administration and that would be good as well.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Absolutely, I want to take another little credit. Harry Enton
at CNN says that Google searches for Jeffrey Epstein are
down eighty nine percent from just three weeks ago. We
said we don't want to talk about it, and the
country agreed.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The normies went again on this one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's also it's Trump's world. We just live in it.
He was like, stop talking about it. People are like,
all right, done.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, that didn't go So I thought you were
going to say I'm getting results because I'm out here
raising my children to sit in restaurants without screens. Because
that happened to the time. I'm super proud of you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I you know, this is the way to do it.
I actually tried to find an article that I wrote
a long time ago about how like should you take
your kids to restaurants? Like will you control your kids
at the restaurant? Are they running around? Are they staring
at people? Are they turning around? You know, are they
under some sort of supervision? Then go ahead, bring them
to restaurants. It doesn't matter how fancy.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah. I took a two and a half and a
three and a half year old and we've been training them.
Got to go to the waffle house, make them sit,
make them learn. Thank you, waffle house to being the
place that is open to such things. And then I
took them to like a medium level you just like
a Mexican rustaurant. Wasn't anything fancy on Sunday after church,
and they were killing it. They were great. They even
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ordered for themselves. It was adorable.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's the best. That's how you do it. I you know, again,
high praise to you. And I think that's really should
be the standard. Honestly, I think everyone should learn to
do that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, you can't just have the kids. You gotta raise
these things.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh No.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The big news today is that Trump wants to fix DC,
which I think is a good idea. I don't know
why it's controver. I think it's just controversial because his
name is Donald Trump. I don't see anything wrong with
bringing in National Guard to reduce crime in DC. I
think it's not impossible. I think that's one of the
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main things to really stay here. Trump said he wants
to add he wants to bring in eight hundred National
Guard troops. They'll be assigned to the nation's capital. Media
outlets are largely losing their minds today about this, but
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, I think this is one of those things that's
particularly triggering to media. And look, I have artists hit. Yeah.
I have some concerns right about him knowing what his
limits are, on what his power is. But the DC
National Guard, unlike other states where you do have to
have more in concert work with governors, he is in
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charge of that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So this is within his powers. The DC City government,
even though it has power thanks to a nineteen seventy
three law to govern its own areas of the city,
it is a partnership with the federal government. And if
you are not doing your part exactly, and if, for instance,
I don't know Donald Trump going around the city sees
a bunch of homeless encampments and is like, I don't
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like this because we're about to host a bunch of
people for the two hundred and fiftieth celebration and I
want this place to look good. You're going to run
into some issues. If one of Donald Trump's DOGE employees
goes out in Adams Morgan and he and his significant
other are attempted carjacked, and he sticks up for his
significant other and is beat by ten teenagers. Yeah, you're
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going to have some issues with this current president. And
I think that's where this sort of got this ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah. My friend John Cardillo, who is ex NYPD, posted,
if Trump is serious about federalizing, DC takes control of
their PD and turns them loose, it will work. We
know it will work because it worked in New York
City in the nineties. It worked in other places as well.
Trump can debunk every false left wing now narrative about
proactive policing. I'd like to see him do that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and that's the thing that DC definitely lost sight
of from twenty twenty to definitely to twenty twenty three,
and then things went to a super high. They were
at like thirty or nine homicides per one hundred thousand
in twenty twenty three, and then it was like ooh.
I think partly when Trump looked like he might be
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coming to office, they were like, we should probably get
things out of control. They have, like the violent crime
rates have been coming down. It is safer to be
on the Metro than it was before because things had
gotten so out of control. I think it's interesting that
Muriel Bowser was on MSNBC this weekend saying I've been
talking to Trump. We have an issue that we are
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trying to tackle. There is work to be done. The
fact that she's signaling that she's communicating with him and
that there's a problem on MSNBC is such a vibe
shift from twenty two point Yeah, wild wild.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, So the media is covering this as like the
worst thing that's ever happened, but they're also saying basically
that crime is just not that bad, like newsweeks as
a headline, are Trump's claims about dangerous Washington d C
backed by data? And yeah, they kind of are, because
look at this quote from that same article in Washington,
the total number of crimes against persons was twenty two
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three hundred and twenty in twenty and twenty four, with
the majority of those crimes made up of assault defenses.
And so you know, they note that as if oh,
just it was just as sault defenses, like it wasn't
Homdale's And then they continue, but the data showed that
the district appears to have a higher rate of crime
against persons compared to the most populated states like California,
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New York, and Texas. And then they go on to
say that Washington's homicide rate last year was twenty seven
point three per one hundred thousand people. This is far
lower than the ten most dangerous cities in the world
according to that metric. But then you look at the
cities that they're measuring against, and it is a bunch
of cities. In Mexico. The only one I've heard of
is Tijuana, and then like Porta print Haidi, Mandela Bay,
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South Africa. They're not comparing themselves to like other capital cities.
They're comparing themselves to like who knows where in you know, Guya, Quill, Ecuador.
Con also Garison here.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Also, if you're on the depth chart in the United
States of America, just behind Detroit and Baltimore, that's also
not good. Yes, it's not good. So I think there's
like a because this is a federal and local partnership
and always has been. As a result of it being
a federal district, the federal government has more power here
than it would other places. Now, I do think they've
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been doing a better job over the last two years
than they were before that, but the bar was quite low.
The other problem that DC has is the same one
that many American cities had during the twenty twenty to
twenty three we all went insane era, not us the normies.
But the cities did right, and that's that they weren't
prosecuting many of the arrests made so people could be arrested,
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maybe even prosecuted, but given very little jail time. This
is particularly true with youth crime in DC, where Janine
Piro actually who is the new attorney for the area, said, Hey,
all these kids committing crimes who know they won't be punished,
they don't come to me, so we got to deal
with that. Here she is talking a little bit about
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what happens to people like the fifteen year olds who
beat the DOJE employee also known as Big Balls, appropriately
named in this case. She's talking about how the city
deals with that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What I can tell you is this, I see too
much violent crime being committed by young punks who think
that they can get together in gangs and crews and
beat the hell out of you or anyone else. They
don't care where they are. They can be in DuPont Circle,
but they know that we can't touch them. Why because
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the laws are weak. I can't touch you if you're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years old and you have a gun. I convict
someone of shooting another person with an illegal gun on
a public bus in the chest, intent to kill. I
convict him, and you know what, the judge gives him probation,
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says you should go to college. We need to go
after the DC Council and their absurd laws. We need
to get rid of this concept of no cash fail.
We need to recognize that the people who matter are
the law abiding citizens. And it starts today, but it's
not going to end today because the President is going
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to do everything we need to do to make sure
that these emboldened criminals understand we see you, we're watching you,
and we're going to change the law to catch you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Jinine Pierro is no joke. She is the US Attorney
for District of Columbia. She is a real petite, little badass.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah. Well, and this is a real thing that particularly
young people in DC know that there will be few
consequences for their actions, whether it's shoplifting or assault, right
or stealing cars is a big one. Carjacking is huge
around here. Something you have to watch out for. A friend.
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Charmagn Yost tweeted that her son's car was stolen from
out in front of their house in DC, and at
that point they learned that grand theft auto is a misdemeanor.
There's no reason for police to pursue. They're not going
to get punished. This also what they're doing. Cash Pattel
talked about this today. The head of the FBI is
like a partnership they made with Virginia where federal law
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enforcement went to northern Virginia where some of these areas
do not want to prosecute, do not want to help
people out, do not want to protec them from violent criminals.
And they partnered with Virginia and Governor Glenn Youngkin and
got like four hundred to five hundred violent felons off
the streets during their partnership. So that's part of what
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it looks like they're attempting to do here.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right. Matthew Foldy had a post on x that I
really liked. He's quoting the Washington Post, and the quote
in the Washington Post is quote, this is a safe city.
But overhearing and witnessing gang threats and then watching the
camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident
speaking on the condition of anonymity over concerns of personal safety.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know, if you can't tell the media that you're
concerned about crime because you're worried about crime coming at you,
that's a real problem.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, And just as somebody who lives in the area,
it is, it feels different to go to DC than
it did ten years ago. Right, it feels different than
it did three years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I have just gotten to the point where daytime metro
riding might be possible with my kids. I've been you know,
it's I'm not going to go buy myself and be
vulnerable until recently when it has gotten quite a bit better.
Certainly not at night. When I go to the city
at night, I am more careful than I used to
be about parking, about using a parking deck when possible,
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about not walking very far, about watching at stoplights when
there might be someone around me. Because, as I said,
carjacking is one of the huge ones. So there are
real problems here, and he has some power. Congress has
a lot of power that they can overturn the DC
City Council on some of these more lenient laws. I
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think there is a risk as always where you overplay
your hand, right. Although I think DC is a place
where people are there aren't that many people who live here.
A lot of people watching from the outside are like, yeah,
it'd be nice if you could just walk around the district.
By the way, the new hip place to hang out,
the Navy Yard had so many gangs of young people
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coming to rob folks and cause other mayhem that they
have a curfew there right now this week to deal
with it. I mean, this is these are real issues.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah. I think just taking the side of crime is
going to be tough for people trying to post Trump.
He wants to fight crime, you want to stop that.
That makes no sense. So I think this is going
to be a Trump one way there.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And one more point on that note, I saw somebody
post a Reddit at Washington DC Reddit where someone just said, hey,
it's okay to want lower crime, and he was just
lambasted in the comments by people who are this side
of the left, this part, this flank of the Democratic
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Party that animates so much of their stupid policies and
the energy and their party which is like so unormy,
the opposite of normy exactly tell a person and no
wanting to live safely in your city is problematic, It's
not problematic. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's super normal. We're going to take a quick break
and come right back with a story out of Fairfax
County that is going to blow your mind.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
All right, we are back on normally with a very
not normal story out of Fairfax County, Virginia, in Northern Virginia,
Fairfax County public schools. This is ABC seven News local
news reporting. And by the way, I want to commend
the reporter Nick Mannok who does these stories. He found
out that the local public schools are launching an investigation
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into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and
didn't tell their parents. These allegations come from twenty twenty one.
Someone got leaked a testimony about this from one of
these young ladies in twenty twenty one when this allegedly happened.
One of the girls involved with seventeen years old. It
is also alleged that, in concert with a guidance counselor
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and a principal at Centerville High School, taxpayer money may
have been used for these abortions that were undertaken without
calling parents. Obviously against Fairfax County public school's policy on
paper also against the law in Virginia which requires parental
notification for minors.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That is quite a story. How is that not the
biggest story in the country, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm just trying to picture a reverse kind of story. Whatever.
It is, a public school that decided to take kids
to church every week, a public school that helped two
people get married because we believe that marriage is a
good thing. Any kind of political thing on the right
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would be this would just be wall to wall news everywhere.
And I learned about it through a thread on x
by Walter Kurt WC Dispatch, and I just read this
thread with my jaw on the floor.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, and this is, by the way, as he points out,
this is two young women. But the fact that this
happened and they're investigating it, and they, by the way,
did put out a statement saying this is by no
means acceptable under our policies. Okay, But I'd really like
to know how many people this happened with, right, because
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both young ladies name the same guidance counselor. I believe
the same principle was involved both times. So if it
was too how many was it really exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it is. Again, I think it should be a
giant story. I kind of I'm looking forward to hearing
what the parents have to say about this if they
do come out, you know, like you said the superintendent
note is like, I want to say that at no
time the situation as described in these allegations be acceptable
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in Fairfax County public schools. I mean, I should hope not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, unfortunately, you do have to say that in Northern
Virginia schools.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You're like, we didn't mean for this to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, I will say Northern Virginia schools. And this
is one of the reasons that Governor Youngkin is governor.
They're so bad and they do such insane things. This
is Louden County in Fairfax County in particular. They do
such insane things that you have to like triple check
your story to believe that the thing is actually happening.
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And so this keeps happening over and over again, and
it caused a lot of I'm just going to use
the term Northern Virginia wine moms across to vote for
Younkin in twenty twenty one. Now this year looks very different.
There is the lieutenant governor win some sears running against
alleged Normie dem Abigail Spanberger. Spanberger is good at sounding
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sort of normy and once is not quite the candidate
that Younkin was. Younkin was a very special candidate in
a very special time, which is why he won in
this pretty purple state. But I want you to hear
Carol a little bit of the normy dem and how
she responds to some of the gender issues in the
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trans students play, are boys playing in girls' sports? And
see what you think about how this might come off
in northern Virginia. Here's Abigail Spamberger, as reported by that
Great Local reporter.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I asked Democratic gubernatorial candidate Abigail Spamberger's campaign if she
would weigh in on the bathroom locker room issue and
does she support biological males competing in women's sports. They
didn't answer those questions, but sent a statement saying that
as a mom with three kids and Virginia public schools quote,
the safety of Virginia's kids is Abigail's top priority, and
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she believes that parents have the right to make decisions
about what is best for their children. End quote. Since
former representative Spamberger didn't answer our questions about bathroom policy
or biological males competing in girls' school sports. We went
back to her record in twenty twenty two, when Governor
Glenn Younkin announced his model policy to block student access
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to locker rooms and bathrooms that don't match their biological sex,
Spamberger wrote that mandate quote rolls back the rights of
kids to be themselves in schools. End quote. In twenty
twenty three, Spamberger also voted in favor of allowing biological
males to compete in women's sports. Nick Minox seven us.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Doesn't sound that normy.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, that's imagine how bad off the party is
that the principal model for the normy dem right and
not muster a mere Yeah, boys shouldn't compete in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Which is an easy call at this point, easy, you know,
if Gavin Newsome could at least pay lip service to it.
Of course, he hasn't done anything in a state to
actually do that, but he at least says it's unfair,
which is a giant in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Glenn Youngkin, by the way, notes on this other the
crime issue that in twenty twenty three, Abigail Spanberger voted
in support of reducing penalties for murderers and giving carjackers
a slap on the wrist in DC because she's part
of the Congress at that point that could vote on that. So, yeah,
that's their attempt at Normy And like you said, when
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you're when you're on the side of crime, it's probably
not going to go well for you in that in
that area.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
We have one more clip of Spamburger talking about how
she feels about parental consent and actually basically refusing to
say one.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Way or the other, you believe minors in Virginia should
get parental consent before having an abortion.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I think it is important that we have a constitutional
guarantee of access to abortion. And notably, the constitutional amendment
that is going through the process here in Virginia is similar,
almost identical to what has passed in states like Michigan
and Ohio and other states very mixed political states where
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the issue of and the question of abortion is a
politically charged one. You know, certainly, I'm a mother of
three daughters, and I recognize that as a mother, I
want to be involved in all of the decisions that
my daughters make, including you know what they were to
prompt or the eighth grade graduation. But what this constitutional
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amendment does is guarantees that in Virginia, the right to
reproductive healthcare would be guaranteed. And I think that, unfortunately,
some of the members of the General Assembly were looking
for excuses to not codify that right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Love yeah, blah blah blah. You could just say yes
or no. But she can't say yes or no, just
like she can't on the boys and women's sports because
she will get lambasted by her left flank, and she
can't be normal on this.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
If we had a functional media who covered it like that,
that would be good, but we basically don't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So it is interesting because I do think Virginia is
primed to be very friendly for Democrats this year because
there are so many federal workers who are at odds
with the Trump administration's plans. They make up a huge
part of northern Virginia and a huge part of the
population in general, so I think it's primed for span Burger.
But the fact that she can't moderate a little bit
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when she's got a pretty good table set for her,
I think is telling about the future of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Absolutely, and you know, you guys, can you pull off
another young Kin? Maybe? Who knows, It's not impossible. I
think Virginia was always traditionally a red state. Obviously, with
people moving from the DC area to Virginia became bluer
and bluer. I've got hope.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, I will be out there making the case. And
I think that continuing the work that Youngkin has done
would be very beneficial to this date, as opposed to
turning hard left, which she's going to pretend she's not doing,
but she's often going to do. So. We will be
back in a minute, normally with a second look at
Andrew Cromo.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We are back on normally. And I don't know about you,
Mary Catherine, but I feel weird having to root for
Andrew Cromo. It really it does not feel good to me.
But I know the thing is, I thought I was
free and clear of this after he lost the primary,
the Democratic primary, and he lost it because he didn't
work at it. He thought it was owed to him.
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We talked about it on this show. It wasn't so much.
He was ahead in the polls the whole time until
like the last two days and then it all fell apart,
but he did not try, he didn't show up to
mayoral forums, et cetera. Now that he is running as
an independent, I really thought that was going to be
the end of Andrew Cromo. But he's somehow still polling
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better than the Republicaniwa and the current mayor, Eric Adams.
So here we go with, you know, Andrew Como take
forty seven. He's having a little bit of a moment.
He's doing some interesting stuff that I think is actually
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beneficial and could lead to maybe a little spike in
his popularity which potentially can maybe lead to a win
against the Communist I don't know. I think I would
resign myself to Zarma'm donnie being the next mayor of
New York City, and I am I'd be surprised if
anything doesn't go that way. But let's maybe Andrew Como maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I mean it's interesting because he's, you know, just watching
from the outside. I do George Wilsaid on Bill marsh
Show that we need a good, like confined dose of
socialism every couple of decades to like show everybody that
this doesn't work. And I actually I understand what he's saying,
and also, I don't want New York to end up there,
so I'm rooting for something else. Andrew Cromo's a really
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hard pulls swallow, but he has said some stuff and
made some lines of attack that are interesting and seem
to be kind of hurting Mom Donnie a little bit,
at least spiritually in his New York Times coverage and whatnot.
Which is he's saying he's going to be proposing Zorn's law,
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a law that will keep the rich out of New
York's affordable housing. New York, of course dealing with a
housing shortage because they won't let people build stuff, and
they won't people let people price stuff where it should
be priced. He says, zoron Mndoni, you say freeze the rent,
but for who? Rich people like you, hard working, working
class New Yorkers are being pushed from their neighborhoods. He
notes that Zorn lives in a rent controlled apartment that
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does not cost him very much money, and he says,
you are a rich person stealing affordable housing from the poor,
and you're not the only one. It's time we address
this injustice. Let's build a new New York city that
works for the people who need it, and I enjoy
the h I enjoy the shot at the Champagne Socialist.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
He had a previous tweet where he said to ma'm donnie,
you grew up rich and married an even wealthier woman.
You've had weddings on three continents. You own property in
lgtbq I A plus murderous Uganda. You make one hundred
and forty two thousand dollars a year plus stipends, and
your wife works two meaning you together likely make well
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over two hundred thousand. No matter which way you cut
it or are, m'm donnie is a rich person. You're actually
very rich. The question is are his voters going to
care about this, because there's plenty of rich communists. That's
actually part of the thing. The higher you get in
the communist order, the richer you are. It's just you know,
Bernie Sanders having three homes and nobody even questions that,
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and every time it gets brought up to him, he
shrugs it off, like, oh, I'd have three little homes.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know, No says My favorite is like, well I
earned those homes right, royalties? Really? What did the book
royalties work? Because I didn't get my cut, and according
to my need right, your book earnings.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Exactly right, right, And it's like, what do you think
the other people did, the other people who have multiple
homes all stole their money, just you are the only
one who earned it honestly. So yeah, I don't know.
I think it's clever of Cuomo to say, you know, today,
I'm calling on you to move out immediately and give
your affordable housing back to an unhoused family who needs it.
Not entirely sure, flanking him to the left is going
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to work, but pointing out that he's a hypocrite and
this is how socialism always goes would be an interesting tactic.
He's also clearly somebody good is on his x account,
and there's like so many little, you know kind of comments,
like somebody wrote unbelievable that rent Control Department was really
available for the elite to snatch away past this law.
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And Andrew Cuomo's account writes back, make it make sense.
That's a cool twenty two year old who is responding,
you know, crazy if true? Somebody writes doing great, bro.
He responds, thanks bro, like just.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So also, I love calling it Zorn's law. That is
that's such a great it's a quality troll. And I
think the thing that's interesting about this particular attack. You're
right that all socialists, if they are up at the
top of the chain, end up getting all the money
that none of us get by design. But what's interesting
is he's talking about affordability, which is the thing that
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people are turning to Zoron for and he's hitting him
on that. And it's a class critique, which so Ram
Mamdani has been making. Now he's a hypocrite in his
class critique, but Andrew Cromo probably not the best guy
to make the other argument, but it is on something
people care about in this election.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Absolutely all right, I'm gonna have to root for a
Mayor Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What I wrote a piece like four years ago that
was like, no one's asking for a Cuomo comeback, And
here we are, having been presented with something so much worse.
Why does this keep happening? You know?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I still hope Mayor Adams pulls it out, but she
pulls out like eight percent, So maybe not.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I know, I do. I actually find it a little
mystifying why people find him in particular so off putting.
I don't and it does seem like New York has
made progress over the past too much, sort of like DC,
where it's like, Okay, well things are improving off of
a low bar, but there is progress being made.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I guess he was indicted. They probably didn't help.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
I am Carol Marco's we have some good news to
kick off. This show normally gets results. Vina Prosad is
back at the FDA.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's true, It's true. It's so exciting, and that is
a that is a big one to come back from.
And I'm glad that the powers that be made that
decision that they were prevailed upon that he was good.
I'm glad that he accepted the position, because once you've
been burned like that, it's probably pretty hard to say, sure,
I'll go work for the government again, which is why
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we lose good people. Absolutely, so I love this news.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, so you know, I really I credit this show.
I mean I think we did it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So direct line, Yeah, direct line at us on the
back well. And also what it may mean, as we
noted in our last episode when we were talking about
that is a falling down the depth chart of the
lumor campaign against whomever she wants in the it's great
administration and that would be good as well.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Absolutely, I want to take another little credit. Harry Enton
at CNN says that Google searches for Jeffrey Epstein are
down eighty nine percent from just three weeks ago. We
said we don't want to talk about it, and the
country agreed.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The normies went again on this one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's also it's Trump's world. We just live in it.
He was like, stop talking about it. People are like,
all right, done.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, that didn't go So I thought you were
going to say I'm getting results because I'm out here
raising my children to sit in restaurants without screens. Because
that happened to the time. I'm super proud of you.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I you know, this is the way to do it.
I actually tried to find an article that I wrote
a long time ago about how like should you take
your kids to restaurants? Like will you control your kids
at the restaurant? Are they running around? Are they staring
at people? Are they turning around? You know, are they
under some sort of supervision? Then go ahead, bring them
to restaurants. It doesn't matter how fancy.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah. I took a two and a half and a
three and a half year old and we've been training them.
Got to go to the waffle house, make them sit,
make them learn. Thank you, waffle house to being the
place that is open to such things. And then I
took them to like a medium level you just like
a Mexican rustaurant. Wasn't anything fancy on Sunday after church,
and they were killing it. They were great. They even
(02:29):
ordered for themselves. It was adorable.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's the best. That's how you do it. I you know, again,
high praise to you. And I think that's really should
be the standard. Honestly, I think everyone should learn to
do that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, you can't just have the kids. You gotta raise
these things.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, like it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh No.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The big news today is that Trump wants to fix DC,
which I think is a good idea. I don't know
why it's controver. I think it's just controversial because his
name is Donald Trump. I don't see anything wrong with
bringing in National Guard to reduce crime in DC. I
think it's not impossible. I think that's one of the
(03:11):
main things to really stay here. Trump said he wants
to add he wants to bring in eight hundred National
Guard troops. They'll be assigned to the nation's capital. Media
outlets are largely losing their minds today about this, but
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, I think this is one of those things that's
particularly triggering to media. And look, I have artists hit. Yeah.
I have some concerns right about him knowing what his
limits are, on what his power is. But the DC
National Guard, unlike other states where you do have to
have more in concert work with governors, he is in
(03:48):
charge of that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So this is within his powers. The DC City government,
even though it has power thanks to a nineteen seventy
three law to govern its own areas of the city,
it is a partnership with the federal government. And if
you are not doing your part exactly, and if, for instance,
I don't know Donald Trump going around the city sees
a bunch of homeless encampments and is like, I don't
(04:12):
like this because we're about to host a bunch of
people for the two hundred and fiftieth celebration and I
want this place to look good. You're going to run
into some issues. If one of Donald Trump's DOGE employees
goes out in Adams Morgan and he and his significant
other are attempted carjacked, and he sticks up for his
significant other and is beat by ten teenagers. Yeah, you're
(04:36):
going to have some issues with this current president. And
I think that's where this sort of got this ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah. My friend John Cardillo, who is ex NYPD, posted,
if Trump is serious about federalizing, DC takes control of
their PD and turns them loose, it will work. We
know it will work because it worked in New York
City in the nineties. It worked in other places as well.
Trump can debunk every false left wing now narrative about
proactive policing. I'd like to see him do that.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, and that's the thing that DC definitely lost sight
of from twenty twenty to definitely to twenty twenty three,
and then things went to a super high. They were
at like thirty or nine homicides per one hundred thousand
in twenty twenty three, and then it was like ooh.
I think partly when Trump looked like he might be
(05:26):
coming to office, they were like, we should probably get
things out of control. They have, like the violent crime
rates have been coming down. It is safer to be
on the Metro than it was before because things had
gotten so out of control. I think it's interesting that
Muriel Bowser was on MSNBC this weekend saying I've been
talking to Trump. We have an issue that we are
(05:48):
trying to tackle. There is work to be done. The
fact that she's signaling that she's communicating with him and
that there's a problem on MSNBC is such a vibe
shift from twenty two point Yeah, wild wild.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, So the media is covering this as like the
worst thing that's ever happened, but they're also saying basically
that crime is just not that bad, like newsweeks as
a headline, are Trump's claims about dangerous Washington d C
backed by data? And yeah, they kind of are, because
look at this quote from that same article in Washington,
the total number of crimes against persons was twenty two
(06:25):
three hundred and twenty in twenty and twenty four, with
the majority of those crimes made up of assault defenses.
And so you know, they note that as if oh,
just it was just as sault defenses, like it wasn't
Homdale's And then they continue, but the data showed that
the district appears to have a higher rate of crime
against persons compared to the most populated states like California,
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New York, and Texas. And then they go on to
say that Washington's homicide rate last year was twenty seven
point three per one hundred thousand people. This is far
lower than the ten most dangerous cities in the world
according to that metric. But then you look at the
cities that they're measuring against, and it is a bunch
of cities. In Mexico. The only one I've heard of
is Tijuana, and then like Porta print Haidi, Mandela Bay,
(07:11):
South Africa. They're not comparing themselves to like other capital cities.
They're comparing themselves to like who knows where in you know, Guya, Quill, Ecuador.
Con also Garison here.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Also, if you're on the depth chart in the United
States of America, just behind Detroit and Baltimore, that's also
not good. Yes, it's not good. So I think there's
like a because this is a federal and local partnership
and always has been. As a result of it being
a federal district, the federal government has more power here
than it would other places. Now, I do think they've
(07:46):
been doing a better job over the last two years
than they were before that, but the bar was quite low.
The other problem that DC has is the same one
that many American cities had during the twenty twenty to
twenty three we all went insane era, not us the normies.
But the cities did right, and that's that they weren't
prosecuting many of the arrests made so people could be arrested,
(08:11):
maybe even prosecuted, but given very little jail time. This
is particularly true with youth crime in DC, where Janine
Piro actually who is the new attorney for the area, said, Hey,
all these kids committing crimes who know they won't be punished,
they don't come to me, so we got to deal
with that. Here she is talking a little bit about
(08:33):
what happens to people like the fifteen year olds who
beat the DOJE employee also known as Big Balls, appropriately
named in this case. She's talking about how the city
deals with that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What I can tell you is this, I see too
much violent crime being committed by young punks who think
that they can get together in gangs and crews and
beat the hell out of you or anyone else. They
don't care where they are. They can be in DuPont Circle,
but they know that we can't touch them. Why because
(09:05):
the laws are weak. I can't touch you if you're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years old and you have a gun. I convict
someone of shooting another person with an illegal gun on
a public bus in the chest, intent to kill. I
convict him, and you know what, the judge gives him probation,
(09:26):
says you should go to college. We need to go
after the DC Council and their absurd laws. We need
to get rid of this concept of no cash fail.
We need to recognize that the people who matter are
the law abiding citizens. And it starts today, but it's
not going to end today because the President is going
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to do everything we need to do to make sure
that these emboldened criminals understand we see you, we're watching you,
and we're going to change the law to catch you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Jinine Pierro is no joke. She is the US Attorney
for District of Columbia. She is a real petite, little badass.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah. Well, and this is a real thing that particularly
young people in DC know that there will be few
consequences for their actions, whether it's shoplifting or assault, right
or stealing cars is a big one. Carjacking is huge
around here. Something you have to watch out for. A friend.
(10:30):
Charmagn Yost tweeted that her son's car was stolen from
out in front of their house in DC, and at
that point they learned that grand theft auto is a misdemeanor.
There's no reason for police to pursue. They're not going
to get punished. This also what they're doing. Cash Pattel
talked about this today. The head of the FBI is
like a partnership they made with Virginia where federal law
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enforcement went to northern Virginia where some of these areas
do not want to prosecute, do not want to help
people out, do not want to protec them from violent criminals.
And they partnered with Virginia and Governor Glenn Youngkin and
got like four hundred to five hundred violent felons off
the streets during their partnership. So that's part of what
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it looks like they're attempting to do here.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right. Matthew Foldy had a post on x that I
really liked. He's quoting the Washington Post, and the quote
in the Washington Post is quote, this is a safe city.
But overhearing and witnessing gang threats and then watching the
camera footage of the thuggery is disturbing, said one resident
speaking on the condition of anonymity over concerns of personal safety.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know, if you can't tell the media that you're
concerned about crime because you're worried about crime coming at you,
that's a real problem.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, And just as somebody who lives in the area,
it is, it feels different to go to DC than
it did ten years ago. Right, it feels different than
it did three years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I have just gotten to the point where daytime metro
riding might be possible with my kids. I've been you know,
it's I'm not going to go buy myself and be
vulnerable until recently when it has gotten quite a bit better.
Certainly not at night. When I go to the city
at night, I am more careful than I used to
be about parking, about using a parking deck when possible,
(12:20):
about not walking very far, about watching at stoplights when
there might be someone around me. Because, as I said,
carjacking is one of the huge ones. So there are
real problems here, and he has some power. Congress has
a lot of power that they can overturn the DC
City Council on some of these more lenient laws. I
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think there is a risk as always where you overplay
your hand, right. Although I think DC is a place
where people are there aren't that many people who live here.
A lot of people watching from the outside are like, yeah,
it'd be nice if you could just walk around the district.
By the way, the new hip place to hang out,
the Navy Yard had so many gangs of young people
(13:02):
coming to rob folks and cause other mayhem that they
have a curfew there right now this week to deal
with it. I mean, this is these are real issues.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah. I think just taking the side of crime is
going to be tough for people trying to post Trump.
He wants to fight crime, you want to stop that.
That makes no sense. So I think this is going
to be a Trump one way there.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
And one more point on that note, I saw somebody
post a Reddit at Washington DC Reddit where someone just said, hey,
it's okay to want lower crime, and he was just
lambasted in the comments by people who are this side
of the left, this part, this flank of the Democratic
(13:49):
Party that animates so much of their stupid policies and
the energy and their party which is like so unormy,
the opposite of normy exactly tell a person and no
wanting to live safely in your city is problematic, It's
not problematic. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's super normal. We're going to take a quick break
and come right back with a story out of Fairfax
County that is going to blow your mind.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
All right, we are back on normally with a very
not normal story out of Fairfax County, Virginia, in Northern Virginia,
Fairfax County public schools. This is ABC seven News local
news reporting. And by the way, I want to commend
the reporter Nick Mannok who does these stories. He found
out that the local public schools are launching an investigation
(14:38):
into claims that school staff arranged abortions for students and
didn't tell their parents. These allegations come from twenty twenty one.
Someone got leaked a testimony about this from one of
these young ladies in twenty twenty one when this allegedly happened.
One of the girls involved with seventeen years old. It
is also alleged that, in concert with a guidance counselor
(14:59):
and a principal at Centerville High School, taxpayer money may
have been used for these abortions that were undertaken without
calling parents. Obviously against Fairfax County public school's policy on
paper also against the law in Virginia which requires parental
notification for minors.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That is quite a story. How is that not the
biggest story in the country, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm just trying to picture a reverse kind of story. Whatever.
It is, a public school that decided to take kids
to church every week, a public school that helped two
people get married because we believe that marriage is a
good thing. Any kind of political thing on the right
(15:44):
would be this would just be wall to wall news everywhere.
And I learned about it through a thread on x
by Walter Kurt WC Dispatch, and I just read this
thread with my jaw on the floor.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yes, and this is, by the way, as he points out,
this is two young women. But the fact that this
happened and they're investigating it, and they, by the way,
did put out a statement saying this is by no
means acceptable under our policies. Okay, But I'd really like
to know how many people this happened with, right, because
(16:21):
both young ladies name the same guidance counselor. I believe
the same principle was involved both times. So if it
was too how many was it really exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, it is. Again, I think it should be a
giant story. I kind of I'm looking forward to hearing
what the parents have to say about this if they
do come out, you know, like you said the superintendent
note is like, I want to say that at no
time the situation as described in these allegations be acceptable
(16:56):
in Fairfax County public schools. I mean, I should hope not.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, unfortunately, you do have to say that in Northern
Virginia schools.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You're like, we didn't mean for this to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I mean, I will say Northern Virginia schools. And this
is one of the reasons that Governor Youngkin is governor.
They're so bad and they do such insane things. This
is Louden County in Fairfax County in particular. They do
such insane things that you have to like triple check
your story to believe that the thing is actually happening.
(17:31):
And so this keeps happening over and over again, and
it caused a lot of I'm just going to use
the term Northern Virginia wine moms across to vote for
Younkin in twenty twenty one. Now this year looks very different.
There is the lieutenant governor win some sears running against
alleged Normie dem Abigail Spanberger. Spanberger is good at sounding
(17:57):
sort of normy and once is not quite the candidate
that Younkin was. Younkin was a very special candidate in
a very special time, which is why he won in
this pretty purple state. But I want you to hear
Carol a little bit of the normy dem and how
she responds to some of the gender issues in the
(18:17):
trans students play, are boys playing in girls' sports? And
see what you think about how this might come off
in northern Virginia. Here's Abigail Spamberger, as reported by that
Great Local reporter.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I asked Democratic gubernatorial candidate Abigail Spamberger's campaign if she
would weigh in on the bathroom locker room issue and
does she support biological males competing in women's sports. They
didn't answer those questions, but sent a statement saying that
as a mom with three kids and Virginia public schools quote,
the safety of Virginia's kids is Abigail's top priority, and
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she believes that parents have the right to make decisions
about what is best for their children. End quote. Since
former representative Spamberger didn't answer our questions about bathroom policy
or biological males competing in girls' school sports. We went
back to her record in twenty twenty two, when Governor
Glenn Younkin announced his model policy to block student access
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to locker rooms and bathrooms that don't match their biological sex,
Spamberger wrote that mandate quote rolls back the rights of
kids to be themselves in schools. End quote. In twenty
twenty three, Spamberger also voted in favor of allowing biological
males to compete in women's sports. Nick Minox seven us.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Doesn't sound that normy.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean, that's imagine how bad off the party is
that the principal model for the normy dem right and
not muster a mere Yeah, boys shouldn't compete in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Which is an easy call at this point, easy, you know,
if Gavin Newsome could at least pay lip service to it.
Of course, he hasn't done anything in a state to
actually do that, but he at least says it's unfair,
which is a giant in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Glenn Youngkin, by the way, notes on this other the
crime issue that in twenty twenty three, Abigail Spanberger voted
in support of reducing penalties for murderers and giving carjackers
a slap on the wrist in DC because she's part
of the Congress at that point that could vote on that. So, yeah,
that's their attempt at Normy And like you said, when
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you're when you're on the side of crime, it's probably
not going to go well for you in that in
that area.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
We have one more clip of Spamburger talking about how
she feels about parental consent and actually basically refusing to
say one.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Way or the other, you believe minors in Virginia should
get parental consent before having an abortion.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I think it is important that we have a constitutional
guarantee of access to abortion. And notably, the constitutional amendment
that is going through the process here in Virginia is similar,
almost identical to what has passed in states like Michigan
and Ohio and other states very mixed political states where
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the issue of and the question of abortion is a
politically charged one. You know, certainly, I'm a mother of
three daughters, and I recognize that as a mother, I
want to be involved in all of the decisions that
my daughters make, including you know what they were to
prompt or the eighth grade graduation. But what this constitutional
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amendment does is guarantees that in Virginia, the right to
reproductive healthcare would be guaranteed. And I think that, unfortunately,
some of the members of the General Assembly were looking
for excuses to not codify that right.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Love yeah, blah blah blah. You could just say yes
or no. But she can't say yes or no, just
like she can't on the boys and women's sports because
she will get lambasted by her left flank, and she
can't be normal on this.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
If we had a functional media who covered it like that,
that would be good, but we basically don't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So it is interesting because I do think Virginia is
primed to be very friendly for Democrats this year because
there are so many federal workers who are at odds
with the Trump administration's plans. They make up a huge
part of northern Virginia and a huge part of the
population in general, so I think it's primed for span Burger.
But the fact that she can't moderate a little bit
(22:29):
when she's got a pretty good table set for her,
I think is telling about the future of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Absolutely, and you know, you guys, can you pull off
another young Kin? Maybe? Who knows, It's not impossible. I
think Virginia was always traditionally a red state. Obviously, with
people moving from the DC area to Virginia became bluer
and bluer. I've got hope.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, I will be out there making the case. And
I think that continuing the work that Youngkin has done
would be very beneficial to this date, as opposed to
turning hard left, which she's going to pretend she's not doing,
but she's often going to do. So. We will be
back in a minute, normally with a second look at
Andrew Cromo.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We are back on normally. And I don't know about you,
Mary Catherine, but I feel weird having to root for
Andrew Cromo. It really it does not feel good to me.
But I know the thing is, I thought I was
free and clear of this after he lost the primary,
the Democratic primary, and he lost it because he didn't
work at it. He thought it was owed to him.
(23:36):
We talked about it on this show. It wasn't so much.
He was ahead in the polls the whole time until
like the last two days and then it all fell apart,
but he did not try, he didn't show up to
mayoral forums, et cetera. Now that he is running as
an independent, I really thought that was going to be
the end of Andrew Cromo. But he's somehow still polling
(23:56):
better than the Republicaniwa and the current mayor, Eric Adams.
So here we go with, you know, Andrew Como take
forty seven. He's having a little bit of a moment.
He's doing some interesting stuff that I think is actually
(24:17):
beneficial and could lead to maybe a little spike in
his popularity which potentially can maybe lead to a win
against the Communist I don't know. I think I would
resign myself to Zarma'm donnie being the next mayor of
New York City, and I am I'd be surprised if
anything doesn't go that way. But let's maybe Andrew Como maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I mean it's interesting because he's, you know, just watching
from the outside. I do George Wilsaid on Bill marsh
Show that we need a good, like confined dose of
socialism every couple of decades to like show everybody that
this doesn't work. And I actually I understand what he's saying,
and also, I don't want New York to end up there,
so I'm rooting for something else. Andrew Cromo's a really
(25:01):
hard pulls swallow, but he has said some stuff and
made some lines of attack that are interesting and seem
to be kind of hurting Mom Donnie a little bit,
at least spiritually in his New York Times coverage and whatnot.
Which is he's saying he's going to be proposing Zorn's law,
(25:24):
a law that will keep the rich out of New
York's affordable housing. New York, of course dealing with a
housing shortage because they won't let people build stuff, and
they won't people let people price stuff where it should
be priced. He says, zoron Mndoni, you say freeze the rent,
but for who? Rich people like you, hard working, working
class New Yorkers are being pushed from their neighborhoods. He
notes that Zorn lives in a rent controlled apartment that
(25:46):
does not cost him very much money, and he says,
you are a rich person stealing affordable housing from the poor,
and you're not the only one. It's time we address
this injustice. Let's build a new New York city that
works for the people who need it, and I enjoy
the h I enjoy the shot at the Champagne Socialist.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I do.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
He had a previous tweet where he said to ma'm donnie,
you grew up rich and married an even wealthier woman.
You've had weddings on three continents. You own property in
lgtbq I A plus murderous Uganda. You make one hundred
and forty two thousand dollars a year plus stipends, and
your wife works two meaning you together likely make well
(26:25):
over two hundred thousand. No matter which way you cut
it or are, m'm donnie is a rich person. You're actually
very rich. The question is are his voters going to
care about this, because there's plenty of rich communists. That's
actually part of the thing. The higher you get in
the communist order, the richer you are. It's just you know,
Bernie Sanders having three homes and nobody even questions that,
(26:48):
and every time it gets brought up to him, he
shrugs it off, like, oh, I'd have three little homes.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
You know, No says My favorite is like, well I
earned those homes right, royalties? Really? What did the book
royalties work? Because I didn't get my cut, and according
to my need right, your book earnings.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Exactly right, right, And it's like, what do you think
the other people did, the other people who have multiple
homes all stole their money, just you are the only
one who earned it honestly. So yeah, I don't know.
I think it's clever of Cuomo to say, you know, today,
I'm calling on you to move out immediately and give
your affordable housing back to an unhoused family who needs it.
Not entirely sure, flanking him to the left is going
(27:27):
to work, but pointing out that he's a hypocrite and
this is how socialism always goes would be an interesting tactic.
He's also clearly somebody good is on his x account,
and there's like so many little, you know kind of comments,
like somebody wrote unbelievable that rent Control Department was really
available for the elite to snatch away past this law.
(27:49):
And Andrew Cuomo's account writes back, make it make sense.
That's a cool twenty two year old who is responding,
you know, crazy if true? Somebody writes doing great, bro.
He responds, thanks bro, like just.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So also, I love calling it Zorn's law. That is
that's such a great it's a quality troll. And I
think the thing that's interesting about this particular attack. You're
right that all socialists, if they are up at the
top of the chain, end up getting all the money
that none of us get by design. But what's interesting
is he's talking about affordability, which is the thing that
(28:26):
people are turning to Zoron for and he's hitting him
on that. And it's a class critique, which so Ram
Mamdani has been making. Now he's a hypocrite in his
class critique, but Andrew Cromo probably not the best guy
to make the other argument, but it is on something
people care about in this election.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Absolutely all right, I'm gonna have to root for a
Mayor Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
What I wrote a piece like four years ago that
was like, no one's asking for a Cuomo comeback, And
here we are, having been presented with something so much worse.
Why does this keep happening? You know?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I still hope Mayor Adams pulls it out, but she
pulls out like eight percent, So maybe not.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I know, I do. I actually find it a little
mystifying why people find him in particular so off putting.
I don't and it does seem like New York has
made progress over the past too much, sort of like DC,
where it's like, Okay, well things are improving off of
a low bar, but there is progress being made.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I guess he was indicted. They probably didn't help.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Probably. Thanks for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays
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