January 22, 2023 • 29 mins
Football vs. Weddings. Why Buck is Anti-Tie and the Comment that May Come Back to Haunt Him as a Parent. To Fight or Not to Fight? Stuff You Never Knew About the Game of Risk. Don’t Mess with Dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bold reverence and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast, it starts now the G seven. You saw
that photo, right Clay with all these world leaders, none
of them had a tie on. And this is where
I get to maybe I'm gonna start a little something here.
(00:21):
I'm just gonna say it. I'm anti tie and I
know that some people think that this is this is blasphemy,
but I don't know why we still feel compelled, and
I just want to make my case to you. I
don't even know where you come down on this, so
maybe you agree with me. But the notion that we
should still be because a bunch of Croatian mercenaries in
the service of Louis the fourteenth and I think it
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was the seventeenth century, wore a little piece of cloth
around their neck, and then the fancy French fashionistas said,
this looks cool. We're gonna start doing this too. I
don't think we have to keep going with this thing anymore.
I know people say, and the people that know fashion
and stuff are gonna say, Buck, this is why you
wear baggy T shirt. It's all the time. Fine, but
they're not comfortable. They don't really make any sense and
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we don't have a tie sponsor. So I'm proud to say,
or I'm comfortable saying I think the necktie needs to
go bye bye. I don't disagree with that at all. Actually,
and I've been anti even wearing jackets a lot because
when it's not cold, and this is maybe the Southerner
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in me, like having to put on a jacket when
it's ninety eight degrees. It makes no sense. So when
I practiced law, I had a suit coat with a
tie in the event that I had to go in court,
so I could put it on, you know, there's a
hearing or whatever. But I would show up like most
warriors would in like a button down and khaki pants
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or whatever. And I really I'm in agreement. I mean,
as I sit and talk to you right now, you know,
people obviously in the theater of the mind here have
no clue what do I wear ninety nine percent of
the time, T shirt, shorts, flip flops. I mean that's
even when you see me behind the scenes here on
Fox News. If I'm doing it from my home cam,
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I've got a jacket and a button down on, and
then I've got shorts on Tomorrow morning when you see
me on Fox and Friends from down here in Florida.
Spoiler alert, I'm gonna have on a jacket, a shirt,
and shorts and flip flops. Nobody will even know, but
if you see me from behind, that's what it looks like.
I just think it's important we speak the truth, and
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the truth is this notion. First of all, I don't
like a three piece suit is not comfortable. I don't
care what who you are, they're not that comfortable suit jackets.
But I understand for business purposes and everything else you
presentation matters. Okay, I'm willing to deal with the suit.
But a tie, it's like a strangulation device. This makes
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no sense. They're not comfortable for weddings, and it's the
way I feel about black shoes for weddings and funerals.
I'll defend a tie. I will say this is men
have almost no other way to distinguish ourselves, right because
the average guy you wear like a white shirt, a
dark jacket, and like whatever you know, dark pants. Women
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have all sorts of clothes that they can wear. The
tie is maybe the only thing that can provide a
little bit of flavor, right, you get the different color tie,
the fun tie. I'm not in favor wants to share
his flavor. I'm not in favor of them. I'm just
saying there's a reason why when you go to a wedding,
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for instance, every man is wearing the exact same outfit
and we all look a little bit ridiculous. Now, obviously
that's because in general we don't matter. Weddings, I would say,
are for women more than men. I'm probably just throwing
myself into a madman today. I know women like weddings
more than men. Just gonna point it out. And for
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everybody out there, by the way, who is listening right now,
as a Southern man, if you have a fall wedding,
I think that you hate everything that is good about
America because the best thing about America is college football.
And there's not a man alive who listens to this
show in the South that is in favor of having
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to spend a Saturday going to watch a wedding. It
doesn't matter who's getting married over getting to watch college
football games all day. Wow, do you even know this?
We don't watch college football at no, But I mean,
did you even know that the fall wedding is like
the third rail for a lot of people in the
South that you can't even have a fall wedding because
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college football is so big, learning something new every day,
So it is a it is a monster faux pa. Now.
I know everybody got backed up because of COVID and
every week for like the next ten years is taken
now and somebody out there's like, the only time we
can get married certain place here. See what happens in
the Northeast is we only get certain long weekends that
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are travel weekends. Yes, and a lot of people like
to have the wedding Memorial Day weekend, like to have
the wedding Labor Day weekend, Fourth of July weekend. That's
a big ask, folks, that's a big I mean, if
it's immediate family, of course they got to be there.
But if I'm like the date and you know it's
really you know, the second cousin, Sally Bath or something,
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who's having the wedding, Am I am? I really supposed
to give up my long weekend for this? I mean,
that's rough. I'm just saying, you'll appreciate this. I went
to a fall wedding once and I was like, how
in the world did you pick this fall wedding, and
I was like, she's pregnant, right, and he was like, yeah,
she's pregnant. So you have to avoid the shotgun wedding
in the South, and you have to avoid the fall wedding.
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But if you have to choose between the two, you
go fall weddings sometimes. So that was one one little
place where I thought we might I'll put out a pole.
I'm wondering if people think, if they think I'm crazy,
I am. I'm in a evangelists for comfortable feet and
no necktie. Also anti basically people talking on their phones.
I saw your angry tweets about facetiming. Oh I am.
(06:11):
I am leading an anti phone rudeness revolution. I am
a one man wrecking crew. I lose my mind and
I don't care. I don't know what it is with people,
but it's gotten worse than the last couple of years.
I think. Is everyone's now? Oh well, FaceTime, I FaceTime
for work. You know it's all about video. If you
are in a public place on FaceTime with speaker phone on,
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you are a barbarian who is destroying our civilization. Do
you mean to say, guy, friends of yours? I didn't hear,
what do you FaceTime guy friends of yours? No, I'm
just curious because the younger generations question no, no, no, no.
I mean, I understand if you're dating a girl and
like you want to see her and you want to
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FaceTime with her. But I am seeing increasingly like young
guys instead of like texting or calling a friend, they
will FaceTime each other and just like talk to each
other on FaceTime. I have not seen that. That's Oh,
it's monstrously. It's monstrously. I guarantee you. There's a lot
of dad's out there nodding along, a lot of teenagers,
a lot of early young age dudes. They FaceTime instead
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of calling. And I'm just gonna say it, I don't
know what it is. And I'm hoping to become a
parent myself for the next couple of years. I don't
know what it is. But somewhere along the line, some
parents decided that bringing the iPad for the kids at
the restaurant, all right, you want to do that, that's
fair play, fair play. There's a thing they've made called headphones,
and they belong on the child's ears or in their
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ears at the restaurant. You are gonna. I do not
want to hear tickle me Olmo while I am eating
my filet mignon. Pull this clip, because I will tell you,
as a parent who may plan that your kids are
gonna be great at the table, there is an awful
lot of scram here. Just take the phone, take the
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iPad and watch, you know, a video, and it is
a saving grace. So I want to pull that clip. Ali,
I want you to save this for Buck as Dad.
Somebody is going to see Buck as Dad. He's gonna
be out. He's gonna have like eight kids. They're all
gonna have iPads going simultaneously, and it's gonna You're not
even gonna be able to hear it. Civilization comes at
(08:25):
a price, Clay. Freedom isn't free, my friend, all right now,
the chaos that you are used to once you become
a parent, in terms of noise, in terms of all
the zaniness, and like you have like a zen to
it where you don't even hear it the same way
as you did before you had kids. And by the way,
Ali is saying about that, couldn't you just put televisions
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at receptions? This is also a big battle because some
brides don't want their big day to be distracted by
a football game. Again, no fall weddings. Just don't do it.
Just don't do it. Sundays with Clay and Buck. A
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lot of really cool stories are apocryphal, which is a shame, right,
I mean, you know you hear these things like, oh,
I wish that was true. The thing about the two
sword lengths in Parliament. I've seen people arguing historically whether
that's really the case that it's was supposed to be too,
because as some have pointed out, swords were different lengths.
So and that's a whole other conversation. But well, we
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know what happened history. I used to give tours of
the United States Capital. If I said this on the
show before, when I was in college, I would walk
people around. You know, it's the history Nerd had. He
just slips it right on, doesn't miss it. Be this
was pre nine eleven, so you could actually walk people
out onto the Senate floor, you could walk them out
onto the House floor. There may even be somebody out
there listening. Who I took on a tour, because I
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bet I had a hundred. I bet I took hundreds
of people on tours of the United States Capital back
in the day. So if you were from the Nashville
area and you got a tour in two thousand or
two thousand and one, might well have been me. But
you used to be able to take people on the
old Senate floor and the old House chamber two buck.
And if you remember Preston Brooks, and this is off
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the top of my head from twenty plus years ago
when I would give tours, was in the House from
South Carolina, and he beat Charles Sumner in like eighteen
fifty six, I think it was in a debate over
slavery on the floor, almost killed him, beat him, beat
him to death with a cane. And when he went
back to South Carolina, his constituents gave him a brand
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new cane because his cane broke in the beating, and
on the cane was the message hit him again. So
if you think we're dealing with violent era now, back
then Preston Brooks not only nearly killed a man on
the Senate floor, when he went back home, they rewarded
him and gave him a new cane. Well, it's like
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what I mentioned a few weeks ago in the show
that James Monroe was about to have a duel with
Alexander Hamilton, and Aaron Burr was like, no, no, no,
let's buddy, let's let's chill out here. We don't And
then seven years later Burke killed Hamilton in a duel. So,
you know, things used to get things used to get
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rough and tumble. I just were making these historical comparisons
because I had brought up that, you know, given the
tensions on the floor of the United States Congress, you know,
things could get a little a little frisky. And sure enough,
Mike Rodgers, not a guy had really thought much about,
thought much about before this as and I didn't know
who he was, really got a little he had to
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get held doc. You saw, you saw the video of this.
He went got really upset with Matt Gates. We haven't
seen anything like down the floor of Congress in will.
It's kind of funny because a lot of you know
what the response was us off a lot of people good,
get a little fired up, have a little passion out there.
I mean, no one actually engaged in violence, but you know,
he got a little fired up. I was a coach.
You've been a coach. Sometimes you're a coach. The assistant
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coach gott to hold you back a little bit because
the ref blows the call. Also, I would say Matt
Gates is a big dude and also relatively young. I
don't like very many people in the United States Congress
his odds against play. But you're you're just counting old
man strength, which you know, I come out of nowhere.
I don't know what it is you've you've experienced. I'm
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sure like you know, if you ever had like your
grandpa grab you when you're younger, you're like, damn, Grandpa's
got a vice like grip. That's what I learned. I
learned the word lamb base too for my grandfather. So
I will say old man strength. I've thought about this
quite a bit because one it's like, you know, the
way that some people used to get strong was by
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actually doing physical manual labor. You know, so country strong.
You've probably heard that phrase before, where you're just like
you're out on a farm and you just carry stuff
around all the time. My grandpa was tree strong, like
wasn't in a gym, like you know, doing curls, and
you know, like all these different strong exercises. But I
will say, if you've ever tried to walk around with
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multiple kids that you are carrying. You get a mom's
same way you get to the you know, you just
shrug somebody who weighs thirty or forty pounds from one
hip to the other. Sometimes you're carrying a couple of them.
You watch dads try to get to the beach in
the summer. I mean, it is like its own competition.
You got the your dragon, like eight different tens and
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chairs and everything else, and the cooler, and you got
a couple of kids on your shoulder, and you got
a wife who's probably walking along because you forgot the sunscreen,
and like you're dealing with all that. That is old
man's strength. Grip strength is a very is a very
good indicator of actually long not only strength obviously, but
long term health and vitality among among men. And I
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mean I've known I've been around down because of my
time in the CIA, A fair number of operators, war fighters, badasses, etc.
And one thing I picked up from more than one
of them, but one of them particularly told me once
he said, if you see guy's forearms, that tells you
whether you want to fight him or not. I always
thought that was so interesting. He's like, he's like, because
a lot of people that got you know, they got
beer muscles. You know, I don't really know what's going on,
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but he says, if somebody, you know, if they looked
like they were a state champion wrestler when you see
their forearms, don't fight that guy. Yeah, it's a bad idea.
I remember my wife said back in the day. Another
good advice for don't fight guys. She said, when she
was out in the bar in Michigan, sometimes guys would
take mouthguards with them to the bar in case they
got in the fight. Oh, if you see somebody with
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cauliflower ear, settle it in court. You don't want that.
If somebody calmly says, do you want to take this outside,
don't go outside with him. They'll kill you like that.
That's somebody who's been in a lot of fights over
the years. And if you're if you like square up
on someone and they put a mouthguard in you just apologize.
So just apologize right there there. They've been in a
lot of fights. I saw something. I mean, we have
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such a We got a whole Texas family that listens
to this, right the state of Texas. We got so
many great people listen to the show every day. I
saw something on social media and I want to check
this out that it is. You know, this is one
of these videos it goes viral that you are allowed
to if you say I want to take this outside,
and you step out there, and if there's a cop
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standing there, if it is fistic cuffs and there's no
no one brings a weapon to the fight, no one
uses a weapon in the fight, and they stop when
the person is on the ground, that it's not actually
an assault. I don't know if that's true or not.
It strikes me that you that's basically the rules for
hockey fighting. It's kind of the rules for hockey fighting
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got under Texas state law. I find that hard to believe.
I just want to say, but it is making the
rounds on social media, and like if a state is
going to have that, it would be Texas. That is unbelievable.
I find it hard to believe it that's the case.
But again, if somebody calmly ask you if you want
to take this outside, you should not go outside. If
they put a mouth guard in, you should definitely apologize. Yeah,
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you shouldn't be throwing a punch mutual combat. This is
apparently a thing consent to mutual combat in Texas. It's
not crazy, wow. I mean that's basically a duel, except
without the guns. Sunday drop with Clay and Buck. Sometimes
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you take important lessons from surprising places. Clay. The game
Risk teaches people never get into a land warren Asia.
Don't don't think that you can actually have an ally
who's your ally forever? Don't think you know where it's
all gonna go. Walsters Journal as a piece up today,
I don't even know about this. Risk was created by
the French filmmaker Albert Albert Lamarie in nineteen fifty seven,
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and he also is the guy who made the film
The Red Balloon, which won the top honors at the
con Film Festival. But Risk was such a great entry
level strategy, a sort of strategy one on one for kids.
It reminded me of sid Meier's Civilization, which was my
first computer game version of Global Strategy, which was also phenomenal.
And walstet Journals just giving a shout out to Eugen
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x people who played a lot of Risk we did.
I played Risk all the time in church daycare, which
is what I went to an elementary school. Before and
after school we played risk poker, a lot of poker,
which is probably a church daycare, not hugely popular. And
then what I think is one of the greatest games
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of all time football table soccer. For those of you
who grew up with that, tough to beat buck. But yes,
risk taught a lot of lessons about the dangers of war.
Whish maybe George W. Bushould played a little bit more
Sunday Sizzle with in buck TikTok. Veterinarian goes viral with
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a list of dog breeds she wouldn't own. Now, let's
just say this. Generally, I think that you're allowed to
say whatever you want about opinion stuff or taste issues. Right,
So if I say that chocolate ice cream is the
best ice cream and someone else, for whatever reason, is
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a barbarian who really likes strawberry ice cream, this is
always a debate in my household. Clay, you know, people
are entitled to their opinions, even though on Twitter, as
you and I both know, if you say I like vanilla,
people will pile on and say why you know, why
did your parents make so many mistakes? And raising it.
You know what I'm talking about? With this stuff I
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noticed early on in Twitter. I went on and said,
which to me is in dispute utable truth, the best
cobbler I think. I said, cobbler is really good, um,
you know, like and I'm a big fan of BlackBerry
cobbler in particular. And immediately people were outraged that I
could really like cobbler. And this was one of the first,
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like maybe the first year that I've been on Twitter.
And so what you learn about social media is whatever
you say you like, you almost immediately get attacked, and
it doesn't matter what it is, Like, I mad, is
the least offensive thing that you could say on This
is like a fun debate topic, you know, like there's
obviously controversial topics. What is the least controversial thing that
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you could say on Twitter? I mean something about food
you like or cheeseburgers or better than I think, Like
when you say even like I like hot dogs, somebody's
gonna be like, what are you crazy? Hot dogs? Or garber?
You gave me you'll you'll you'll get I got dragged
for days for pointing out that milk in your coffee
is basically better than all these oat juices and things. Yeah, yeah, right,
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lost their minds of days and days. Sorry, there's so
many options. I'm like, look, Drick, whatever you want, I
don't care. But but anyway, there's there's a lot of
these things that we could get it too. And it
is true. You could say on social media today, you
or I or anyone listening could say wow, it's a
nice day, and then all of a sudden, some account
from like whether truth dot com or something's gonna be like,
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why are you such an idiot? It's not good, whether
it's actually causing a lot of power grid issues, anyway,
that doesn't better enjoy it now because in ten years
we're all gonna be dead because the climate change. You
can't say any And the worst thing is if you ask,
I wish that I could crowdsource question on this show.
We can't have a brilliant people call in with tremendous expertise.
But on social media, if you ask an honest question,
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like hey, what's the best way for me to regrout
the tile in my bathroom, You'll get fifty responses people saying, oh,
you're such an idiot who's never done anything in his life,
Like okay, so, but but so I bring this up
because people and this this audience included me, include did.
Although it's a family dog, technically people love their dogs.
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You mess with their dog and you're in a world
of her. And I don't even just mean obviously, like
actually being mean to the dog or something. I just
mean you talk smack about their dog breed. If you
want to see a website crash from the traffic, that
will happen. Start a fight between pro pit bowl owners
and anti pit boll owners, just as an example. And
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I'm not, by the way, I'm not starting that fight
right now. I'm just saying it is something that gets
people very fired up on both sides. This veterinarian on
TikTok Wit is her name. She's kind of cute y.
She did a little video and I'm gonna say this
right now. She wasn't She had no idea what she
was stepping into. She did the five dog breeds she
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wouldn't own as a veterinarian. Conute Number five are the
Chinese crested. I mean, the dogs and stuff are fun.
I don't like careless animals or zdy They're kind of greasy.
Same with cats. Number four these anklebers. Nope, not not
my cup of tea three. Not just a pub but
just any breaky cephalic breeds. I mean, some of them
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are so cute and so sweet, but they can't breathe,
literally cannot breathe. They snore. I've already got a husband
that snores. I don't need anything else. Coming in at
number two the GSD. This also applies to best Belgian
Malon Walls his favorite dog and coming in at once
to kiss everyone off is the Golden dude. Okay, so
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she's trying to fund Clay. This went like megaviral. People
are curious, are completely so just did be clear there
is no there's no community for the Chinese crested out there. Okay,
I've never even seen one, do you know, child? Oh
my gosh, New York City, Ali over here says she,
you've I've never even seen a Chinese crested. That's a
thing that people see. I have no idea to me.
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To me, that's like a space alien like that doesn't
even really count. But apparently Ali says they exist. They're
they're airless in part, which is what freaks everybody out.
She mentioned chihuahuas, and I will say, our friend Tommy
Laren has a chihuahua. You go after people's chihuahuas, it's
like that you're calling their baby ugly. She went after
bulldogs and said they snore and can't breathe, which I
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will say, bulldog snoring is adorable. Okay, the bulldog owners,
you have though breathing issue, right, Clay, Clay, come, I understanding,
I have breathing issues, all right, I've gotta deviated septum.
I'm glad that nobody abandoned me. And and then she
mentioned German shepherds and Malania. Now that one, I'm gonna say,
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and maybe I'm stepping into here a little bit. You
have to know what you're doing with those dogs. Those
are not like Get them and figure it out out
how to be a dog on bit by a German shepherd.
When I was a kid, badly really, you know the
scar on my face on Yeah, when I was five
years old, I had chicken pox. I was at my
friend Neil's house. He also had chicken pocks in But
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anybody out there who's around my age or older will remember,
you know, we had chicken pox parties. They were the
opposite of COVID, right, everybody, when you got chicken pox.
They wanted you to get it at a young age,
so we everybody got chicken pox around the same age.
I believe I was in first grade and h yeah,
I was in first grade. Went out to pet his dog, Casper,
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the German shepherd. Casper leapt up and bit me and ripped.
You didn't know, I don't think I've ripped my face
like you could see the cheek bone. God, you're lucky
you didn't hit your eye. Yeah, I know. And also
my throat, my lip was ripped open. I had a
hole in my cheek. So I was six and I
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had over fifty stitches from this German shepherd bite. So
I'm not a big German shepherd guy now. And they're
working dogs the same thing with the malon. The malon
wise like is like a lean, mean German shepherd in
terms of its speed, and they're great for a lot
of our military and law enforcement audience love their mal
I love their shepherds because they're amazing in those roles
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and if you know how to handle them, but they're
you know, it's a Chiua is different from a malinoah, right,
All these dogs have different personalities inside of the breed itself.
Right of which, But a Chua was not going to
go flying through an open window at top speed and
take down one hundred and eighty pound man like it's nothing.
If at Chuaw did that, it would be remarkable to see.
Be kind of like that scene. And there's something about
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Mary with a little dog. But any which, if you
haven't seen, you can't make that move anymore. But the
one that I think, really I'm gonna tell you this
right now, my fiance is a doodle person. I have
experienced this with doodle people all over the country. Doodle peoples.
Doodle people are like the vegans of the canine owner
world in that they think they have figured out so
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they're like, they don't shed, they're they're hypoallergenic, they're super smart.
They're like they have figured out the secret to the
top of the canine ownership pyramid. Here, you mess with
people's doodles, they freak, they freak. These doodles cost too,
I think, I mean doodles are probably a couple of
it depends where you're on the country. A couple of
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grand I mean French cheese, which goes under the brackie
cephalic uh dog or brackie Cephali, which is what the
squash faced dogs are. Um French cheese run anywhere from
two or three grand up to fifteen grand, fifteen thousands
a blue frenchie in a city for it. If you're
going through a breeder, will cost you. That's why they
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there are armed robbers who steal people people getting him stole.
Apparently the snoring doesn't hurt the market value that much.
Just saying that for the bulldog owners out there. So
what has happened to this TikTok vet? Like she's everywhere.
I mean she's all over. You got the story of
an out kick. I think she's more famous than she
ever tended to be. Look, everyone needs to calm down.
Ladies allowed to have her ovisions. I just think it's
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kind of funny because there are there are some things
I will say this Clay. It's a little bit like
I'm sure there are people in the sports world where
if you really trash Buddy's team, you're like that team sucks,
They're coaching is awful. They take it personally right, They're like,
hold on a second, like I actually really think that
team is awesome and inspiring. You go after people's dogs,
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even not their individual dog, the dog breed, and this
is certainly true of pit bull owners, and you know,
you mess with the bull, you get the horn. Man.
I believe she didn't put pit bull on the list.
I was surprised by that too, given the ones that
she went after here. But people are there are the
people that say best family dog you could ever have,
and then there's people who say all the fatal attacks
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basically nationwide involved pit bulls. So you get this huge
debate that breaks down. And because they're like when I
lived in DC, I lived in an apartment building there
there was a whole list of banned breeds, so this
does actually become in your building. There are some cities
that I think have even considered banning certain breeds citywide.
I don't think that's really gone into effect yet, but yeah, man,
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there's usually it's a weight it's a weight issue. So
there's a little bit of shaming of the canines that
goes on. Because my mom just texted me three facial
surgeries to recover from that when I was six years old.
Oh my god, I mean, think about fifty stitches for
a six year old. Fifty stitches for an adult is
a big wound, but for a six year old, like
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it was like half my face man, that is. But yeah,
your dogs on a half days and the neck send
us your your your cute pup photos at clonbuck dot com.
We got all the sex and dogs posted. We are
gonna do Cute Cat Tuesday at some point for all
the cattle. But she took a little shot the vet
at cats too. I just gonna say it. We've got
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two cats, and I'm not in favor of the fact
that we have two cats. In fact, they really kind
of drive me insane. I'm the least favorite in the
house of the cats, and the cats are the least
favorite of mine. If you came home and you told
missus Travis, you told Laura, you know, I just think
we could really benefit from like a pet, a pet porcupine,
or maybe a rack whoon, like is any of that
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in the mix? Are definitely not. I think that we're
in the process of getting a house built and the
cats are going to be excluded from many parts of
the new house that they have. They have wrecked substantial
portions of the house
Bold reverence and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast, it starts now the G seven. You saw
that photo, right Clay with all these world leaders, none
of them had a tie on. And this is where
I get to maybe I'm gonna start a little something here.
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I'm just gonna say it. I'm anti tie and I
know that some people think that this is this is blasphemy,
but I don't know why we still feel compelled, and
I just want to make my case to you. I
don't even know where you come down on this, so
maybe you agree with me. But the notion that we
should still be because a bunch of Croatian mercenaries in
the service of Louis the fourteenth and I think it
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was the seventeenth century, wore a little piece of cloth
around their neck, and then the fancy French fashionistas said,
this looks cool. We're gonna start doing this too. I
don't think we have to keep going with this thing anymore.
I know people say, and the people that know fashion
and stuff are gonna say, Buck, this is why you
wear baggy T shirt. It's all the time. Fine, but
they're not comfortable. They don't really make any sense and
(01:05):
we don't have a tie sponsor. So I'm proud to say,
or I'm comfortable saying I think the necktie needs to
go bye bye. I don't disagree with that at all. Actually,
and I've been anti even wearing jackets a lot because
when it's not cold, and this is maybe the Southerner
(01:26):
in me, like having to put on a jacket when
it's ninety eight degrees. It makes no sense. So when
I practiced law, I had a suit coat with a
tie in the event that I had to go in court,
so I could put it on, you know, there's a
hearing or whatever. But I would show up like most
warriors would in like a button down and khaki pants
(01:49):
or whatever. And I really I'm in agreement. I mean,
as I sit and talk to you right now, you know,
people obviously in the theater of the mind here have
no clue what do I wear ninety nine percent of
the time, T shirt, shorts, flip flops. I mean that's
even when you see me behind the scenes here on
Fox News. If I'm doing it from my home cam,
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I've got a jacket and a button down on, and
then I've got shorts on Tomorrow morning when you see
me on Fox and Friends from down here in Florida.
Spoiler alert, I'm gonna have on a jacket, a shirt,
and shorts and flip flops. Nobody will even know, but
if you see me from behind, that's what it looks like.
I just think it's important we speak the truth, and
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the truth is this notion. First of all, I don't
like a three piece suit is not comfortable. I don't
care what who you are, they're not that comfortable suit jackets.
But I understand for business purposes and everything else you
presentation matters. Okay, I'm willing to deal with the suit.
But a tie, it's like a strangulation device. This makes
(02:52):
no sense. They're not comfortable for weddings, and it's the
way I feel about black shoes for weddings and funerals.
I'll defend a tie. I will say this is men
have almost no other way to distinguish ourselves, right because
the average guy you wear like a white shirt, a
dark jacket, and like whatever you know, dark pants. Women
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have all sorts of clothes that they can wear. The
tie is maybe the only thing that can provide a
little bit of flavor, right, you get the different color tie,
the fun tie. I'm not in favor wants to share
his flavor. I'm not in favor of them. I'm just
saying there's a reason why when you go to a wedding,
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for instance, every man is wearing the exact same outfit
and we all look a little bit ridiculous. Now, obviously
that's because in general we don't matter. Weddings, I would say,
are for women more than men. I'm probably just throwing
myself into a madman today. I know women like weddings
more than men. Just gonna point it out. And for
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everybody out there, by the way, who is listening right now,
as a Southern man, if you have a fall wedding,
I think that you hate everything that is good about
America because the best thing about America is college football.
And there's not a man alive who listens to this
show in the South that is in favor of having
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to spend a Saturday going to watch a wedding. It
doesn't matter who's getting married over getting to watch college
football games all day. Wow, do you even know this?
We don't watch college football at no, But I mean,
did you even know that the fall wedding is like
the third rail for a lot of people in the
South that you can't even have a fall wedding because
(04:44):
college football is so big, learning something new every day,
So it is a it is a monster faux pa. Now.
I know everybody got backed up because of COVID and
every week for like the next ten years is taken
now and somebody out there's like, the only time we
can get married certain place here. See what happens in
the Northeast is we only get certain long weekends that
(05:04):
are travel weekends. Yes, and a lot of people like
to have the wedding Memorial Day weekend, like to have
the wedding Labor Day weekend, Fourth of July weekend. That's
a big ask, folks, that's a big I mean, if
it's immediate family, of course they got to be there.
But if I'm like the date and you know it's
really you know, the second cousin, Sally Bath or something,
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who's having the wedding, Am I am? I really supposed
to give up my long weekend for this? I mean,
that's rough. I'm just saying, you'll appreciate this. I went
to a fall wedding once and I was like, how
in the world did you pick this fall wedding, and
I was like, she's pregnant, right, and he was like, yeah,
she's pregnant. So you have to avoid the shotgun wedding
in the South, and you have to avoid the fall wedding.
(05:48):
But if you have to choose between the two, you
go fall weddings sometimes. So that was one one little
place where I thought we might I'll put out a pole.
I'm wondering if people think, if they think I'm crazy,
I am. I'm in a evangelists for comfortable feet and
no necktie. Also anti basically people talking on their phones.
I saw your angry tweets about facetiming. Oh I am.
(06:11):
I am leading an anti phone rudeness revolution. I am
a one man wrecking crew. I lose my mind and
I don't care. I don't know what it is with people,
but it's gotten worse than the last couple of years.
I think. Is everyone's now? Oh well, FaceTime, I FaceTime
for work. You know it's all about video. If you
are in a public place on FaceTime with speaker phone on,
(06:35):
you are a barbarian who is destroying our civilization. Do
you mean to say, guy, friends of yours? I didn't hear,
what do you FaceTime guy friends of yours? No, I'm
just curious because the younger generations question no, no, no, no.
I mean, I understand if you're dating a girl and
like you want to see her and you want to
(06:55):
FaceTime with her. But I am seeing increasingly like young
guys instead of like texting or calling a friend, they
will FaceTime each other and just like talk to each
other on FaceTime. I have not seen that. That's Oh,
it's monstrously. It's monstrously. I guarantee you. There's a lot
of dad's out there nodding along, a lot of teenagers,
a lot of early young age dudes. They FaceTime instead
(07:19):
of calling. And I'm just gonna say it, I don't
know what it is. And I'm hoping to become a
parent myself for the next couple of years. I don't
know what it is. But somewhere along the line, some
parents decided that bringing the iPad for the kids at
the restaurant, all right, you want to do that, that's
fair play, fair play. There's a thing they've made called headphones,
and they belong on the child's ears or in their
(07:42):
ears at the restaurant. You are gonna. I do not
want to hear tickle me Olmo while I am eating
my filet mignon. Pull this clip, because I will tell you,
as a parent who may plan that your kids are
gonna be great at the table, there is an awful
lot of scram here. Just take the phone, take the
(08:03):
iPad and watch, you know, a video, and it is
a saving grace. So I want to pull that clip. Ali,
I want you to save this for Buck as Dad.
Somebody is going to see Buck as Dad. He's gonna
be out. He's gonna have like eight kids. They're all
gonna have iPads going simultaneously, and it's gonna You're not
even gonna be able to hear it. Civilization comes at
(08:25):
a price, Clay. Freedom isn't free, my friend, all right now,
the chaos that you are used to once you become
a parent, in terms of noise, in terms of all
the zaniness, and like you have like a zen to
it where you don't even hear it the same way
as you did before you had kids. And by the way,
Ali is saying about that, couldn't you just put televisions
(08:47):
at receptions? This is also a big battle because some
brides don't want their big day to be distracted by
a football game. Again, no fall weddings. Just don't do it.
Just don't do it. Sundays with Clay and Buck. A
(09:11):
lot of really cool stories are apocryphal, which is a shame, right,
I mean, you know you hear these things like, oh,
I wish that was true. The thing about the two
sword lengths in Parliament. I've seen people arguing historically whether
that's really the case that it's was supposed to be too,
because as some have pointed out, swords were different lengths.
So and that's a whole other conversation. But well, we
(09:31):
know what happened history. I used to give tours of
the United States Capital. If I said this on the
show before, when I was in college, I would walk
people around. You know, it's the history Nerd had. He
just slips it right on, doesn't miss it. Be this
was pre nine eleven, so you could actually walk people
out onto the Senate floor, you could walk them out
onto the House floor. There may even be somebody out
there listening. Who I took on a tour, because I
(09:54):
bet I had a hundred. I bet I took hundreds
of people on tours of the United States Capital back
in the day. So if you were from the Nashville
area and you got a tour in two thousand or
two thousand and one, might well have been me. But
you used to be able to take people on the
old Senate floor and the old House chamber two buck.
And if you remember Preston Brooks, and this is off
(10:15):
the top of my head from twenty plus years ago
when I would give tours, was in the House from
South Carolina, and he beat Charles Sumner in like eighteen
fifty six, I think it was in a debate over
slavery on the floor, almost killed him, beat him, beat
him to death with a cane. And when he went
back to South Carolina, his constituents gave him a brand
(10:40):
new cane because his cane broke in the beating, and
on the cane was the message hit him again. So
if you think we're dealing with violent era now, back
then Preston Brooks not only nearly killed a man on
the Senate floor, when he went back home, they rewarded
him and gave him a new cane. Well, it's like
(11:02):
what I mentioned a few weeks ago in the show
that James Monroe was about to have a duel with
Alexander Hamilton, and Aaron Burr was like, no, no, no,
let's buddy, let's let's chill out here. We don't And
then seven years later Burke killed Hamilton in a duel. So,
you know, things used to get things used to get
(11:22):
rough and tumble. I just were making these historical comparisons
because I had brought up that, you know, given the
tensions on the floor of the United States Congress, you know,
things could get a little a little frisky. And sure enough,
Mike Rodgers, not a guy had really thought much about,
thought much about before this as and I didn't know
who he was, really got a little he had to
(11:46):
get held doc. You saw, you saw the video of this.
He went got really upset with Matt Gates. We haven't
seen anything like down the floor of Congress in will.
It's kind of funny because a lot of you know
what the response was us off a lot of people good,
get a little fired up, have a little passion out there.
I mean, no one actually engaged in violence, but you know,
he got a little fired up. I was a coach.
You've been a coach. Sometimes you're a coach. The assistant
(12:08):
coach gott to hold you back a little bit because
the ref blows the call. Also, I would say Matt
Gates is a big dude and also relatively young. I
don't like very many people in the United States Congress
his odds against play. But you're you're just counting old
man strength, which you know, I come out of nowhere.
I don't know what it is you've you've experienced. I'm
(12:29):
sure like you know, if you ever had like your
grandpa grab you when you're younger, you're like, damn, Grandpa's
got a vice like grip. That's what I learned. I
learned the word lamb base too for my grandfather. So
I will say old man strength. I've thought about this
quite a bit because one it's like, you know, the
way that some people used to get strong was by
(12:49):
actually doing physical manual labor. You know, so country strong.
You've probably heard that phrase before, where you're just like
you're out on a farm and you just carry stuff
around all the time. My grandpa was tree strong, like
wasn't in a gym, like you know, doing curls, and
you know, like all these different strong exercises. But I
will say, if you've ever tried to walk around with
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multiple kids that you are carrying. You get a mom's
same way you get to the you know, you just
shrug somebody who weighs thirty or forty pounds from one
hip to the other. Sometimes you're carrying a couple of them.
You watch dads try to get to the beach in
the summer. I mean, it is like its own competition.
You got the your dragon, like eight different tens and
(13:35):
chairs and everything else, and the cooler, and you got
a couple of kids on your shoulder, and you got
a wife who's probably walking along because you forgot the sunscreen,
and like you're dealing with all that. That is old
man's strength. Grip strength is a very is a very
good indicator of actually long not only strength obviously, but
long term health and vitality among among men. And I
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mean I've known I've been around down because of my
time in the CIA, A fair number of operators, war fighters, badasses, etc.
And one thing I picked up from more than one
of them, but one of them particularly told me once
he said, if you see guy's forearms, that tells you
whether you want to fight him or not. I always
thought that was so interesting. He's like, he's like, because
a lot of people that got you know, they got
beer muscles. You know, I don't really know what's going on,
(14:20):
but he says, if somebody, you know, if they looked
like they were a state champion wrestler when you see
their forearms, don't fight that guy. Yeah, it's a bad idea.
I remember my wife said back in the day. Another
good advice for don't fight guys. She said, when she
was out in the bar in Michigan, sometimes guys would
take mouthguards with them to the bar in case they
got in the fight. Oh, if you see somebody with
(14:42):
cauliflower ear, settle it in court. You don't want that.
If somebody calmly says, do you want to take this outside,
don't go outside with him. They'll kill you like that.
That's somebody who's been in a lot of fights over
the years. And if you're if you like square up
on someone and they put a mouthguard in you just apologize.
So just apologize right there there. They've been in a
lot of fights. I saw something. I mean, we have
(15:03):
such a We got a whole Texas family that listens
to this, right the state of Texas. We got so
many great people listen to the show every day. I
saw something on social media and I want to check
this out that it is. You know, this is one
of these videos it goes viral that you are allowed
to if you say I want to take this outside,
and you step out there, and if there's a cop
(15:23):
standing there, if it is fistic cuffs and there's no
no one brings a weapon to the fight, no one
uses a weapon in the fight, and they stop when
the person is on the ground, that it's not actually
an assault. I don't know if that's true or not.
It strikes me that you that's basically the rules for
hockey fighting. It's kind of the rules for hockey fighting
(15:44):
got under Texas state law. I find that hard to believe.
I just want to say, but it is making the
rounds on social media, and like if a state is
going to have that, it would be Texas. That is unbelievable.
I find it hard to believe it that's the case.
But again, if somebody calmly ask you if you want
to take this outside, you should not go outside. If
they put a mouth guard in, you should definitely apologize. Yeah,
(16:08):
you shouldn't be throwing a punch mutual combat. This is
apparently a thing consent to mutual combat in Texas. It's
not crazy, wow. I mean that's basically a duel, except
without the guns. Sunday drop with Clay and Buck. Sometimes
(16:35):
you take important lessons from surprising places. Clay. The game
Risk teaches people never get into a land warren Asia.
Don't don't think that you can actually have an ally
who's your ally forever? Don't think you know where it's
all gonna go. Walsters Journal as a piece up today,
I don't even know about this. Risk was created by
the French filmmaker Albert Albert Lamarie in nineteen fifty seven,
(17:00):
and he also is the guy who made the film
The Red Balloon, which won the top honors at the
con Film Festival. But Risk was such a great entry
level strategy, a sort of strategy one on one for kids.
It reminded me of sid Meier's Civilization, which was my
first computer game version of Global Strategy, which was also phenomenal.
And walstet Journals just giving a shout out to Eugen
(17:23):
x people who played a lot of Risk we did.
I played Risk all the time in church daycare, which
is what I went to an elementary school. Before and
after school we played risk poker, a lot of poker,
which is probably a church daycare, not hugely popular. And
then what I think is one of the greatest games
(17:43):
of all time football table soccer. For those of you
who grew up with that, tough to beat buck. But yes,
risk taught a lot of lessons about the dangers of war.
Whish maybe George W. Bushould played a little bit more
Sunday Sizzle with in buck TikTok. Veterinarian goes viral with
(18:13):
a list of dog breeds she wouldn't own. Now, let's
just say this. Generally, I think that you're allowed to
say whatever you want about opinion stuff or taste issues. Right,
So if I say that chocolate ice cream is the
best ice cream and someone else, for whatever reason, is
(18:34):
a barbarian who really likes strawberry ice cream, this is
always a debate in my household. Clay, you know, people
are entitled to their opinions, even though on Twitter, as
you and I both know, if you say I like vanilla,
people will pile on and say why you know, why
did your parents make so many mistakes? And raising it.
You know what I'm talking about? With this stuff I
(18:55):
noticed early on in Twitter. I went on and said,
which to me is in dispute utable truth, the best
cobbler I think. I said, cobbler is really good, um,
you know, like and I'm a big fan of BlackBerry
cobbler in particular. And immediately people were outraged that I
could really like cobbler. And this was one of the first,
(19:16):
like maybe the first year that I've been on Twitter.
And so what you learn about social media is whatever
you say you like, you almost immediately get attacked, and
it doesn't matter what it is, Like, I mad, is
the least offensive thing that you could say on This
is like a fun debate topic, you know, like there's
obviously controversial topics. What is the least controversial thing that
(19:37):
you could say on Twitter? I mean something about food
you like or cheeseburgers or better than I think, Like
when you say even like I like hot dogs, somebody's
gonna be like, what are you crazy? Hot dogs? Or garber?
You gave me you'll you'll you'll get I got dragged
for days for pointing out that milk in your coffee
is basically better than all these oat juices and things. Yeah, yeah, right,
(19:59):
lost their minds of days and days. Sorry, there's so
many options. I'm like, look, Drick, whatever you want, I
don't care. But but anyway, there's there's a lot of
these things that we could get it too. And it
is true. You could say on social media today, you
or I or anyone listening could say wow, it's a
nice day, and then all of a sudden, some account
from like whether truth dot com or something's gonna be like,
(20:20):
why are you such an idiot? It's not good, whether
it's actually causing a lot of power grid issues, anyway,
that doesn't better enjoy it now because in ten years
we're all gonna be dead because the climate change. You
can't say any And the worst thing is if you ask,
I wish that I could crowdsource question on this show.
We can't have a brilliant people call in with tremendous expertise.
But on social media, if you ask an honest question,
(20:43):
like hey, what's the best way for me to regrout
the tile in my bathroom, You'll get fifty responses people saying, oh,
you're such an idiot who's never done anything in his life,
Like okay, so, but but so I bring this up
because people and this this audience included me, include did.
Although it's a family dog, technically people love their dogs.
(21:05):
You mess with their dog and you're in a world
of her. And I don't even just mean obviously, like
actually being mean to the dog or something. I just
mean you talk smack about their dog breed. If you
want to see a website crash from the traffic, that
will happen. Start a fight between pro pit bowl owners
and anti pit boll owners, just as an example. And
(21:28):
I'm not, by the way, I'm not starting that fight
right now. I'm just saying it is something that gets
people very fired up on both sides. This veterinarian on
TikTok Wit is her name. She's kind of cute y.
She did a little video and I'm gonna say this
right now. She wasn't She had no idea what she
was stepping into. She did the five dog breeds she
(21:50):
wouldn't own as a veterinarian. Conute Number five are the
Chinese crested. I mean, the dogs and stuff are fun.
I don't like careless animals or zdy They're kind of greasy.
Same with cats. Number four these anklebers. Nope, not not
my cup of tea three. Not just a pub but
just any breaky cephalic breeds. I mean, some of them
(22:12):
are so cute and so sweet, but they can't breathe,
literally cannot breathe. They snore. I've already got a husband
that snores. I don't need anything else. Coming in at
number two the GSD. This also applies to best Belgian
Malon Walls his favorite dog and coming in at once
to kiss everyone off is the Golden dude. Okay, so
(22:32):
she's trying to fund Clay. This went like megaviral. People
are curious, are completely so just did be clear there
is no there's no community for the Chinese crested out there. Okay,
I've never even seen one, do you know, child? Oh
my gosh, New York City, Ali over here says she,
you've I've never even seen a Chinese crested. That's a
thing that people see. I have no idea to me.
(22:55):
To me, that's like a space alien like that doesn't
even really count. But apparently Ali says they exist. They're
they're airless in part, which is what freaks everybody out.
She mentioned chihuahuas, and I will say, our friend Tommy
Laren has a chihuahua. You go after people's chihuahuas, it's
like that you're calling their baby ugly. She went after
bulldogs and said they snore and can't breathe, which I
(23:15):
will say, bulldog snoring is adorable. Okay, the bulldog owners,
you have though breathing issue, right, Clay, Clay, come, I understanding,
I have breathing issues, all right, I've gotta deviated septum.
I'm glad that nobody abandoned me. And and then she
mentioned German shepherds and Malania. Now that one, I'm gonna say,
(23:36):
and maybe I'm stepping into here a little bit. You
have to know what you're doing with those dogs. Those
are not like Get them and figure it out out
how to be a dog on bit by a German shepherd.
When I was a kid, badly really, you know the
scar on my face on Yeah, when I was five
years old, I had chicken pox. I was at my
friend Neil's house. He also had chicken pocks in But
(23:57):
anybody out there who's around my age or older will remember,
you know, we had chicken pox parties. They were the
opposite of COVID, right, everybody, when you got chicken pox.
They wanted you to get it at a young age,
so we everybody got chicken pox around the same age.
I believe I was in first grade and h yeah,
I was in first grade. Went out to pet his dog, Casper,
(24:20):
the German shepherd. Casper leapt up and bit me and ripped.
You didn't know, I don't think I've ripped my face
like you could see the cheek bone. God, you're lucky
you didn't hit your eye. Yeah, I know. And also
my throat, my lip was ripped open. I had a
hole in my cheek. So I was six and I
(24:40):
had over fifty stitches from this German shepherd bite. So
I'm not a big German shepherd guy now. And they're
working dogs the same thing with the malon. The malon
wise like is like a lean, mean German shepherd in
terms of its speed, and they're great for a lot
of our military and law enforcement audience love their mal
I love their shepherds because they're amazing in those roles
(25:02):
and if you know how to handle them, but they're
you know, it's a Chiua is different from a malinoah, right,
All these dogs have different personalities inside of the breed itself.
Right of which, But a Chua was not going to
go flying through an open window at top speed and
take down one hundred and eighty pound man like it's nothing.
If at Chuaw did that, it would be remarkable to see.
Be kind of like that scene. And there's something about
(25:24):
Mary with a little dog. But any which, if you
haven't seen, you can't make that move anymore. But the
one that I think, really I'm gonna tell you this
right now, my fiance is a doodle person. I have
experienced this with doodle people all over the country. Doodle peoples.
Doodle people are like the vegans of the canine owner
world in that they think they have figured out so
(25:46):
they're like, they don't shed, they're they're hypoallergenic, they're super smart.
They're like they have figured out the secret to the
top of the canine ownership pyramid. Here, you mess with
people's doodles, they freak, they freak. These doodles cost too,
I think, I mean doodles are probably a couple of
it depends where you're on the country. A couple of
(26:07):
grand I mean French cheese, which goes under the brackie
cephalic uh dog or brackie Cephali, which is what the
squash faced dogs are. Um French cheese run anywhere from
two or three grand up to fifteen grand, fifteen thousands
a blue frenchie in a city for it. If you're
going through a breeder, will cost you. That's why they
(26:28):
there are armed robbers who steal people people getting him stole.
Apparently the snoring doesn't hurt the market value that much.
Just saying that for the bulldog owners out there. So
what has happened to this TikTok vet? Like she's everywhere.
I mean she's all over. You got the story of
an out kick. I think she's more famous than she
ever tended to be. Look, everyone needs to calm down.
Ladies allowed to have her ovisions. I just think it's
(26:50):
kind of funny because there are there are some things
I will say this Clay. It's a little bit like
I'm sure there are people in the sports world where
if you really trash Buddy's team, you're like that team sucks,
They're coaching is awful. They take it personally right, They're like,
hold on a second, like I actually really think that
team is awesome and inspiring. You go after people's dogs,
(27:12):
even not their individual dog, the dog breed, and this
is certainly true of pit bull owners, and you know,
you mess with the bull, you get the horn. Man.
I believe she didn't put pit bull on the list.
I was surprised by that too, given the ones that
she went after here. But people are there are the
people that say best family dog you could ever have,
and then there's people who say all the fatal attacks
(27:33):
basically nationwide involved pit bulls. So you get this huge
debate that breaks down. And because they're like when I
lived in DC, I lived in an apartment building there
there was a whole list of banned breeds, so this
does actually become in your building. There are some cities
that I think have even considered banning certain breeds citywide.
I don't think that's really gone into effect yet, but yeah, man,
(27:56):
there's usually it's a weight it's a weight issue. So
there's a little bit of shaming of the canines that
goes on. Because my mom just texted me three facial
surgeries to recover from that when I was six years old.
Oh my god, I mean, think about fifty stitches for
a six year old. Fifty stitches for an adult is
a big wound, but for a six year old, like
(28:17):
it was like half my face man, that is. But yeah,
your dogs on a half days and the neck send
us your your your cute pup photos at clonbuck dot com.
We got all the sex and dogs posted. We are
gonna do Cute Cat Tuesday at some point for all
the cattle. But she took a little shot the vet
at cats too. I just gonna say it. We've got
(28:39):
two cats, and I'm not in favor of the fact
that we have two cats. In fact, they really kind
of drive me insane. I'm the least favorite in the
house of the cats, and the cats are the least
favorite of mine. If you came home and you told
missus Travis, you told Laura, you know, I just think
we could really benefit from like a pet, a pet porcupine,
or maybe a rack whoon, like is any of that
(29:01):
in the mix? Are definitely not. I think that we're
in the process of getting a house built and the
cats are going to be excluded from many parts of
the new house that they have. They have wrecked substantial
portions of the house
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