September 3, 2023 • 24 mins
Best buddy cop movie? Snake vs. hawk. Charly Arnolt loves toxic masculinity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Dear clan Buck from Will, I was disappointed to hear
you both overlook Joe Peshi's best role.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Uh oh, the range is hot.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
While he may be noteworthy, oh just noteworthy Will in
Casino and My Cousin Vinnie, there is nothing that can
compare with his role as Leo gets in the Lethal
Weapon franchise, bar none. Looking forward to Clay's book this weekend,
going to start it, keep up the great work and
shields high. Well, he's got a great book to read.
(00:41):
Perhaps he also have a great a great movie to
download after he reads Clay's book, which would be give
a second shot to my cousin Vinnie, because I just
don't think you can compare Peshi in Lethal Weapon to
his his his dynamic role in My Cousin Vinnie. I mean,
I will I fill a flag here, I said Casino Now,
(01:01):
Lethal Weapon? Is it the best cop buddy movie ever made?
I have some I have some theories.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I don't know. I think Bad Boys might be a
better cop buddy movie. Oh my god, yeah, I know.
I just did it. I just did it. I know,
I know everyone's booing, but it's true.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You think Martin Lawrence and Will Smith as a cop
combo are better than Riggs and Murtaw than Danny Glover
and Mel Gibson.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Eras leth a Weapon is more iconic, and I understand that.
But if you're talking about which movie holds up more,
the first leth a Weapon movie or the first Bad
Boys movie, I know it's a Look, this is a
this is a hot take that not a lot of
people would co sign.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
But I'm just throwing it out.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I'm not sure that anybody listening agrees with that opinion.
This might be the first time you've ever had an
opinion that you're wrong. A million million into a million
to one, like two million. However, many people are listening
at this exact moment. Every single one of them is
outraged at what you just said. Clay, As Einstein said,
it doesn't matter how many think I'm wrong. It only
takes one to prove me wrong.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I think I've already done it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I just by merely saying Riggs and Murta, I think
your argument is dead on an arrival. Do you remember
can you name the two cops in bad bad boys.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like their names.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeahs, I mean that's a idea.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Mike Lowry, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The other guy.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It is impressive that you remembered one.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thank you. It's been a long time since I've seen either.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Of I would even argue forty eight hours probably I
wasn't even thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's probably a better.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And if you want to expand it into a trio,
I would argue that Beverly Hills Cop. With that trio,
you know, he got what's Billy and and Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Maybe it's Rosewood and it's Rosewood Foley and the other
guy Billy Billy is his first name, Billy Hoyle. No,
that's a white man kid jumping Rosewood. Isn't that his
last name in the movie? Yeah, it's Rosewood. And then
Murtaw is it Murtaw? No, that's Lee the weapon. No crap,
I'm forgett. But who's who's the Who's the curmudgeonly? The
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one that I feel like I identify the most with
From the first Beverly Hills Cop movie, You don't they
go to the strip club and he said he's Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sergeant Taggart. Thank you, Taggert.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, Beverly Hills Cop maybe the best cop movie of
all time and is I think one of the top
ten comedies of all time. So that's a whole that's
a whole different. I don't think of that though, as
a buddy cop movie, although you could make that argument
to be fair lethal weapon. Yeah, the franchise is iconic
and it kind of started that whole era of buddy
cop movies. I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna
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say it, since I'm already upsetting a lot of people.
Big fan of Turner and Hooch, I think it overlooked,
overlooked Tom Hanks movie.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I mean, Tango and Cash is better than Bad Boys.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
You remember Tangoing Cash, Tag Going Cash a little overrated?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just God, throw it out there, doesn't really hold up.
I'm just telling you it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Just made a dog in a detective movie argument, and
you're taking shots now at Tango and Cash.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I just said, I like Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There's also the Jim Belushi version of K nine, which
I saw, but I think the French mastiff as opposed
to the German shepherd added a little jeunesse Quah on screen.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Starsky and Hutch. I never saw it, so I can't
speak to it. That's from our team. I'm sure we're
getting delused right now, but I don't think there's a
single person listening that agrees with you about Bad Boys.
I think that Mel Gibson's body of work is phenomenal
in terms of the movies.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Terms of the movies, I think Brave Heart is an
excellent movie.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm trying, Oh, is Point Break a buddy cop movie?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Because that, again, it depends on how many cops you're
talking about. I would say that Point Break is a
heist movie, which is different than a buddy cop movie.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
A heist movie is where for everybody out there, there's
a robbery planned, or there's a robbery attempting to be foiled.
And it's different than a criminal versus a cop movie,
which would be like Heat, you know, the iconic criminal
versus cop.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's obviously it's like a dark, almost film noir kind
of vibe. Training Day, though, if you think of that
as a buddy cop movie, is as a movie probably
the best of all.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Training Day is better than Training Day is better than
we agree on that, better than all of the if
you count it as a buddy cop movie. But again,
it's not really a buddy I mean, they're not buddies.
I don't want to get in the event that somebody's like,
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm finally gonna watch
Training Day on Saturday. I don't want to spoil it,
even though you've had twenty years to watch it. But
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not really a buddy cop movie. You think at the
beginning it might be.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
There was The Last Boy Scout, which is so bad
that I can't even remember it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
There was a whole in the mid late eighties.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They were churning these things out so fast that even
an action movie junkie like myself couldn't keep up with
all of them.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I've got another one for you that I forgot about.
It's pretty good. Chris Tucker and uh and who's the
Asian martial arts.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Guy, Oh rush Hour? Of course, yeah, Jackie rush Hower's
pretty good. That's a funny cop movie. I just want
to point out, with Clay with his definitive blah blah
blah bucks one hundred million percent wrong, our team looked
it up. MovieWeb dot com agrees with me.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That bad yesterday just say that we can't cite these
random websites. But like when we were talking about the
Seven Deadly or whatever natural wonders, You're like, I don't
trust that. Now MovieWeb dot com is suddenly like a
gust authority.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm just gonna change the rules of the game as
I need to before we get to break.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Here Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And I had to. I'm not gonna lie. I was
choking on a choking on a bit of a sandwich there,
So we had.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A good start for both of us because I'm talking
to our guests in Cleveland and you're choking, and uh,
at least you didn't. What would happen if you just
passed out like I was, like in the middle of
the show because you're choking on something.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I was Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Actually, I was on Fox News a long time ago
with Megan Kelly and and she had a like a
something in her in her throat.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I couldn't continue that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We had to we had to break in the middle
of the segment because she couldn't speak during the segment,
and I didn't know what to do because I didn't
she obviously wasn't choking, but like she just couldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Something was in her throat.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I looked at her and they kind of were
giving me to keep talking, and then I was like,
I look like a sociopath. They want me to keep
talking while she's unable. As we went into break, but
for about a fifteen to twenty second period there, I'm like,
and yes, I'm going to continue this segment while you
are unable to you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But you know live TV.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That stuff can happen, all right, So we have this
story if you are in any single moment, okay, and
this happened in Texas. This sounds like a Florida man story,
but it happened.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To a Texas woman.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh wow, they actually they actually just found that clip
right away of me with Megan Kelly, so it's.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Oh wow, well done.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know if they're gonna put it up at
clanbuck dot com. And that's a real thing if you
want that throwback where I was like, are you okay?
You guys are fast on this team. So anyway back
to tech Texas woman, if you were attacked by a snake,
you are having a bad day.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I think that is fair.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If you are attacked by a hawk, you were having
a really bad day, because what are the chances that
a raptor decides that it's gonna go after you and
dig its talons into you? But Clay, how is it
possible for one person to be attacked by a snake
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and a hawk at the same time.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Do we have audio of this lady? I don't think
it is cut eighteen? What is cut eighteen?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Crew?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Is this the lady being interviewed? Because I think she
got interviewed about this. No, it might be a news
bite on it, but it's not her being interviewed. Her
name is Peggy Jones. She was riding a tractor in
Texas on the twenty fifth of July on her property
in Silsby, Texas, and around eight o'clock at night, a
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snake fell from the sky. Okay, it wasn't even like
the snake bitterfoot or wrapped around her leg. A snake
fell out of the sky, wrapped her forearm, bit her
and so a snake attacks her that falls out of
the sky. Snakes cannot fly.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
A hawk then came down and while the snake was
coiled around her arm, proceeded to scratch at her with
its talons to make sure that she would relinquish the
snake that had bitten her. Because what happened here was
the hawk was about to eat the snake, it dropped
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its dinner. The dinner dropped on her. The snake dinner
then bit her, and then the hawk attacked her to
get its dinner back. How is that even possible?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
This is the worst luck imaginable. The only way this
could have been worse is if she had been like
driving in a convertible and she had driven off the
road and killed herself because a snake happened to land
right on her, and then the hawk comes down, thinks
that she's basically stolen the meal, and is attacking her
to try to get the snake back.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I have an important question for you, Producer Mike reminds
me about the otter attack last week. What is a
more WT conversation when you go to the er I
was tubing and attacked by a random rogue otter or
I was attacked by a snake dropped out of the
sky and then attacked by a hawk at the same time.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, the second one, because it requires two animals to
violently simultaneously attack you who have nothing otherwise in common.
The idea of a snake falling from the sky and
landing on you feels really unfair, first of all the hawk.
Then following up, she said in the interview that when
she went to the hospital because she had to get
treatment from the double animal attack, they asked her if
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she was on drugs because they it was such an
outlandish and ludicrous story. They didn't believe it. The beaver
or otter or whatever it was. I could see how
one crazy animal, particularly if it were rabid, could lose
its mind and end up going after people, But for
two animals that ties that typically would not be even
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in the same place to both attack you simultaneously as brutal.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I wouldn't downtalk the otter clay that otter attacked three
people simultaneously and send one to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Those little otters are tough. Who knew I thought that
you were?
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Is?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Hey, Just get back out there, go mess around with
that otter. It's no big deal. You'll be fine. Odds
are low.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
In an otter.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Story, a woman was attacked by a snake and a hawk.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
See what I did there? I did? I did? I
just hope we're gonna end the show on that, huh.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I just hope that people of Rockaway Beach are safe
and that your poor advice doesn't get another person attacked.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Join now by my friend Charlie Arnault, who is going
to be on the OutKick Sunday at ten PM television show.
We're gonna have a lot of fun discussing with her.
But Charlie, let's start here. What did you think of
the Trump mugshot? And can you believe this is the
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real world that we live in?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
The answer to your question, the first part, I thought
it was a great mugshot. I thought he had like
great intensity in his eyes. I think that it's going
to make for some fantastic merch. I plan to be
gripping in head to toe with Trump mugshot merch. I
knew all along that this was going to be like
a huge money maker for him, and it's actually great
because the more money he can make from all this
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merchandise from his mugshot will be good to cover a
lot of his legal fees, which we know he's going
to have to pay up a lot of money along
the way. So there's that, but the fact that he
actually had a mugshot it is just ridiculous. And everyone
knows who Trump is, they know what he looks like.
He's not going anywhere. This was just a way for
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you know, it's an attempt to embarrass him, it's an
assassination on his character. But I think we all realize
that by making this move, the Democrats have only done
him a favor, and I think his polling numbers are
going to continue to surge even more and his popularity
is going to go through the roof.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And I think it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I saw a meme earlier and it's, you know, it
was like two guys in the same like Superman type
suit trying to fight each other, and one was you know, Democrats,
the other was Conservatives. They're both wearing the same thing.
So it's like everyone's going to be downing the Trump
mug shop, but for their own reasons that they'll be different.
But at the end of the day, Trump's face is
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going to be absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So I don't know. I actually I actually think that
it's gonna end up helping him.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Okay, the debate was on Wednesday night. You and I
talked about Nicky Hayley's answer on abortion. You are a
young woman, you talk I bet Tons as a New
Yorker to other young women. What percentage of young female
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voters do you think focus on abortion almost to the
exclusion of anything else, And what did you think of
Nicki Haley's answer in the debate.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, I think Nicki Haley's answer was phenomenal.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I think she really got to the root of what
it means to focus on a candidate and their stands
on abortion, because in my experience, a lot of the
women that I talk to, especially I live in New
York City, so you know, very liberal city people are
so focused on the abortion issue. And it's interesting because
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one of the first things I asked them, I'm like, oh,
have you got an abortion?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Are you planning to get an abortion? No?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Okay, Well why is this the main issue that you
care about? And I think for a lot of people,
it's more of a prince I think that they think
that they should care about it, so this is where
they've put all of their focus. And I think people
don't realize that just because you're voting for a Republican
doesn't mean that they are anti abortion in a lot
of cases. I mean, there are the examples of rape, incest,
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detrimental health to the mother or the child, that an
abortion is still seen as acceptable even though they are
pro life. And I think a lot of these Democrats
that people don't realize when they're voting for it's not
just allowing abortion in the first trimester or because of
these extreme circumstances. They're sometimes allowing these abortions to be
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carried out at full term. And I think that a
lot of people would totally disagree with but they don't
realize it because in their minds they think, oh, Republican
anti abortion Democrat, pro abortion, and just because they're a woman,
they think that they should have that right to choose
what they do with their body.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I just think people misunderstand.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
The issue, and I think if people took a few
minutes to really dig a little deeper and see where
the stances on abortion differed, they would probably vote very differently.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You mentioned that you live in New York City. You
are starting to see many different places out there, including
Rutgers other colleges that are making the decision to bring
back masks. What do you think in twenty twenty three.
When you see a man wearing a mask?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Oh you know what I think?
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I actually it was funny. I was just in Whole
Foods the other day.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
I was going up the escalator and there was a
guy coming down the escalator and he was clearly checking
me out, but who was wearing a mask?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And felt I just felt disgust it. I'm like, who
you are?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
The anti man, especially the type of man that I
would ever want to be seen with. So no, I
am repulse. I am very turned off by men. And honestly,
I mean not that I'm into women, but if a
woman in a mask not somebody that I would personally
ever choose to be friends with, because I'm not walking
down the street with you if you're wearing a mask.
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I mean even it's insane outside right now, just people
on bikes are wearing masks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I love, by the way, this idea.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
So you're in Whole Foods and you're on an escalator
and a guy checks you out, and you were just
thoroughly disgusted, not because a guy was checking you out,
but because the guy checking you out was wearing a mask.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You were like, this is just a non starter.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, yeah, this is listen, check me out all you want,
but your chance of ever being with me are at
a zero percent because you're wearing that stupid mask and
I just I can't get behind it, and it drives
me insane. I mean, even when we were in the
height of COVID, I there's just like this, you know,
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It's like a little mini fury that bubbles up inside
of you when you see people with masks on and
you just want to be like, what are you doing?
And especially I mean especially, like I just said, the
people outside.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Hey, dog, she doesn't like masks. She gets upset when
I talk about masks.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's your dog's name, by the way, it's it's Zora.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh that's a great name.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So so Also, you did a video recently that I
loved for OutKick And by the way, we're talking to
Charlie Arnold and her dog Zoras in the background listening
to us right now, when you did a hit saying
I love toxic masculinity, which the idea of toxic masculinity
in general is patently absurd because I haven't heard anybody
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talk about toxic femininity, right, But explain what you think
as a woman when you hear this idea of toxic masculinity.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
So I feel like toxic masculinity is actually the opposite,
because the things that are deemed toxic now in terms
of men are actually the things that make men men
and the things that I think should be celebrated. Like
I I think that the idea of traditional gender roles
still really resonates with me, Like I understand that I'm
capable of doing so much more. And do I think
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that I should be forced to stay home and you know,
work in the kitchen and do all the laundry and
clean up the house exclusively. No, But I do believe that,
you know, a man should be able to be a man,
and I and I embrace those aspects of a man,
like I like when you know, for example, I love
when a man goes to the gym.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I like when he's strong. I like when he's sweaty.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I like when he feels compelled to speak his mind,
even if you know it's something that I don't want
to hear.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I like, uh, you know when you know.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
On the same token, I like when a guy does
all the things that you know are chivalrous, Like I
want a guy to open the door for me. I
don't want him to, you know, let me do certain things,
even though some women are like, oh, I can do
it myself, you know, lifting my suitcase up on the plane.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'm all for a man being like I'm doing this.
I'm a man. There's just so many things that I
think women, you know, and I also you know, the
idea of just like taking control. I like that. I
don't need to be in control. I'm a very very
much an alpha female.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
But I like when a guy is able to take
the reins, take the lead. I don't see that it's
putting me down or just being dismissive in any way.
So I'm all for toxic masculinity. I want men to
continue being men so that women, at least women like me,
can continue being women.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's interesting, by the way, none of this stuff is
particularly crazy. There is a difference biologically between men and women,
and that existed for basically all of humanity until like
five years ago. And one of the things that you
and I are fired up about, and we've talked about
it a bunch on this program, is the idea that
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a man could decide to identify as a woman and
win a women's championship and We're going to talk with
Riley Gaines on the OutKick special. It's going to be
on Fox News on Sunday. But a big part of that,
I think for making the decision to move Sage Steel
at ESPN, who you know, you used to work at
ESPN as well, what does it say about where we
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are as a society that an actual sports company. Many
people don't feel comfortable saying, hey, men who identify as
women shouldn't be women's champions.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
How do we get here?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Well?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I think we got here because people are afraid to
say anything. It's not that they do not feel that
that's how things are and how things should be. I
just think that people are afraid of being labeled transphobic
or hateful or bigoted, because.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
That's what happens.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I mean, even when I started speaking up about it,
as much as many people would come to me quietly
and say, oh my gosh, thank you so much for
saying this, you know, there was all the other people
that that publicly would say, oh, I cannot believe you'd
say this. I thought that you were an ally, you know,
I thought that you supported LGBTQ rights. And in my
response to them is, you know, I listen to the
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term ally I think is lame. I'm not going to like,
you know, I don't want to like, I guess exacerbate
these liberal terms. But I have no problem with people
in the LGBTQ community. I think everybody should have the
same rights as everybody else does, same opportunities.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But that doesn't mean that you can unfringe on.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
A woman's space in order to exercise what you now
consider to be your right.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So I don't know, I just people just it's it's
the same, you know, same old playbook page from that
the left always uses.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
They try to come at you immediately with oh, you're hateful,
you're transphobic, and then you suddenly get scared to speak up,
and then that forces you to not, you know, really
like take a hard stance, which is what you're doing,
what I'm doing, what Riley's doing. But I think I
think most people would agree that this is just a
common sense issue.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
This isn't a political issue. It's very much common sense.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
And I'm hopeful that sooner or later it'll get to
the point where, you know, like we had the Sam
Ponders and saved steals at the ESPN. Now it's Sam
Ponder alone on an island, but hopefully eventually there'll be
more people speaking up.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
To keep women's sports. Women's sports.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Amen, Charlie, I will see you on Sunday. I hope
people will enjoy watching us ten o'clock eastern.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
On Fox News.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's gonna be a great show.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I hope, so, I hope so. I think it's gonna
go well. Ten o'clock eastern on Fox News. Charlie Arnault,
thank you for joining us. Appreciate all the good work.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
At out Kick.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Thank you. Bye, everyone,
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Dear clan Buck from Will, I was disappointed to hear
you both overlook Joe Peshi's best role.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Uh oh, the range is hot.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
While he may be noteworthy, oh just noteworthy Will in
Casino and My Cousin Vinnie, there is nothing that can
compare with his role as Leo gets in the Lethal
Weapon franchise, bar none. Looking forward to Clay's book this weekend,
going to start it, keep up the great work and
shields high. Well, he's got a great book to read.
(00:41):
Perhaps he also have a great a great movie to
download after he reads Clay's book, which would be give
a second shot to my cousin Vinnie, because I just
don't think you can compare Peshi in Lethal Weapon to
his his his dynamic role in My Cousin Vinnie. I mean,
I will I fill a flag here, I said Casino Now,
(01:01):
Lethal Weapon? Is it the best cop buddy movie ever made?
I have some I have some theories.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I don't know. I think Bad Boys might be a
better cop buddy movie. Oh my god, yeah, I know.
I just did it. I just did it. I know,
I know everyone's booing, but it's true.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You think Martin Lawrence and Will Smith as a cop
combo are better than Riggs and Murtaw than Danny Glover
and Mel Gibson.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Eras leth a Weapon is more iconic, and I understand that.
But if you're talking about which movie holds up more,
the first leth a Weapon movie or the first Bad
Boys movie, I know it's a Look, this is a
this is a hot take that not a lot of
people would co sign.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
But I'm just throwing it out.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I'm not sure that anybody listening agrees with that opinion.
This might be the first time you've ever had an
opinion that you're wrong. A million million into a million
to one, like two million. However, many people are listening
at this exact moment. Every single one of them is
outraged at what you just said. Clay, As Einstein said,
it doesn't matter how many think I'm wrong. It only
takes one to prove me wrong.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I think I've already done it.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I just by merely saying Riggs and Murta, I think
your argument is dead on an arrival. Do you remember
can you name the two cops in bad bad boys.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like their names.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeahs, I mean that's a idea.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Mike Lowry, that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
The other guy.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It is impressive that you remembered one.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Thank you. It's been a long time since I've seen either.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Of I would even argue forty eight hours probably I
wasn't even thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's probably a better.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And if you want to expand it into a trio,
I would argue that Beverly Hills Cop. With that trio,
you know, he got what's Billy and and Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Maybe it's Rosewood and it's Rosewood Foley and the other
guy Billy Billy is his first name, Billy Hoyle. No,
that's a white man kid jumping Rosewood. Isn't that his
last name in the movie? Yeah, it's Rosewood. And then
Murtaw is it Murtaw? No, that's Lee the weapon. No crap,
I'm forgett. But who's who's the Who's the curmudgeonly? The
(03:25):
one that I feel like I identify the most with
From the first Beverly Hills Cop movie, You don't they
go to the strip club and he said he's Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Sergeant Taggart. Thank you, Taggert.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, Beverly Hills Cop maybe the best cop movie of
all time and is I think one of the top
ten comedies of all time. So that's a whole that's
a whole different. I don't think of that though, as
a buddy cop movie, although you could make that argument
to be fair lethal weapon. Yeah, the franchise is iconic
and it kind of started that whole era of buddy
cop movies. I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna
(03:58):
say it, since I'm already upsetting a lot of people.
Big fan of Turner and Hooch, I think it overlooked,
overlooked Tom Hanks movie.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I mean, Tango and Cash is better than Bad Boys.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
You remember Tangoing Cash, Tag Going Cash a little overrated?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Just God, throw it out there, doesn't really hold up.
I'm just telling you it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Just made a dog in a detective movie argument, and
you're taking shots now at Tango and Cash.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I just said, I like Turner and Hooch.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
There's also the Jim Belushi version of K nine, which
I saw, but I think the French mastiff as opposed
to the German shepherd added a little jeunesse Quah on screen.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Starsky and Hutch. I never saw it, so I can't
speak to it. That's from our team. I'm sure we're
getting delused right now, but I don't think there's a
single person listening that agrees with you about Bad Boys.
I think that Mel Gibson's body of work is phenomenal
in terms of the movies.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Terms of the movies, I think Brave Heart is an
excellent movie.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'm trying, Oh, is Point Break a buddy cop movie?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Because that, again, it depends on how many cops you're
talking about. I would say that Point Break is a
heist movie, which is different than a buddy cop movie.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
A heist movie is where for everybody out there, there's
a robbery planned, or there's a robbery attempting to be foiled.
And it's different than a criminal versus a cop movie,
which would be like Heat, you know, the iconic criminal
versus cop.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's obviously it's like a dark, almost film noir kind
of vibe. Training Day, though, if you think of that
as a buddy cop movie, is as a movie probably
the best of all.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Training Day is better than Training Day is better than
we agree on that, better than all of the if
you count it as a buddy cop movie. But again,
it's not really a buddy I mean, they're not buddies.
I don't want to get in the event that somebody's like,
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm finally gonna watch
Training Day on Saturday. I don't want to spoil it,
even though you've had twenty years to watch it. But
(06:15):
not really a buddy cop movie. You think at the
beginning it might be.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
There was The Last Boy Scout, which is so bad
that I can't even remember it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
There was a whole in the mid late eighties.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They were churning these things out so fast that even
an action movie junkie like myself couldn't keep up with
all of them.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I've got another one for you that I forgot about.
It's pretty good. Chris Tucker and uh and who's the
Asian martial arts.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Guy, Oh rush Hour? Of course, yeah, Jackie rush Hower's
pretty good. That's a funny cop movie. I just want
to point out, with Clay with his definitive blah blah
blah bucks one hundred million percent wrong, our team looked
it up. MovieWeb dot com agrees with me.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
That bad yesterday just say that we can't cite these
random websites. But like when we were talking about the
Seven Deadly or whatever natural wonders, You're like, I don't
trust that. Now MovieWeb dot com is suddenly like a
gust authority.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm just gonna change the rules of the game as
I need to before we get to break.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Here Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And I had to. I'm not gonna lie. I was
choking on a choking on a bit of a sandwich there,
So we had.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A good start for both of us because I'm talking
to our guests in Cleveland and you're choking, and uh,
at least you didn't. What would happen if you just
passed out like I was, like in the middle of
the show because you're choking on something.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I was Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Actually, I was on Fox News a long time ago
with Megan Kelly and and she had a like a
something in her in her throat.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I couldn't continue that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We had to we had to break in the middle
of the segment because she couldn't speak during the segment,
and I didn't know what to do because I didn't
she obviously wasn't choking, but like she just couldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Something was in her throat.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And I looked at her and they kind of were
giving me to keep talking, and then I was like,
I look like a sociopath. They want me to keep
talking while she's unable. As we went into break, but
for about a fifteen to twenty second period there, I'm like,
and yes, I'm going to continue this segment while you
are unable to you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But you know live TV.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That stuff can happen, all right, So we have this
story if you are in any single moment, okay, and
this happened in Texas. This sounds like a Florida man story,
but it happened.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To a Texas woman.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh wow, they actually they actually just found that clip
right away of me with Megan Kelly, so it's.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Oh wow, well done.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know if they're gonna put it up at
clanbuck dot com. And that's a real thing if you
want that throwback where I was like, are you okay?
You guys are fast on this team. So anyway back
to tech Texas woman, if you were attacked by a snake,
you are having a bad day.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I think that is fair.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
If you are attacked by a hawk, you were having
a really bad day, because what are the chances that
a raptor decides that it's gonna go after you and
dig its talons into you? But Clay, how is it
possible for one person to be attacked by a snake
(09:21):
and a hawk at the same time.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Do we have audio of this lady? I don't think
it is cut eighteen? What is cut eighteen?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Crew?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Is this the lady being interviewed? Because I think she
got interviewed about this. No, it might be a news
bite on it, but it's not her being interviewed. Her
name is Peggy Jones. She was riding a tractor in
Texas on the twenty fifth of July on her property
in Silsby, Texas, and around eight o'clock at night, a
(09:51):
snake fell from the sky. Okay, it wasn't even like
the snake bitterfoot or wrapped around her leg. A snake
fell out of the sky, wrapped her forearm, bit her
and so a snake attacks her that falls out of
the sky. Snakes cannot fly.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
A hawk then came down and while the snake was
coiled around her arm, proceeded to scratch at her with
its talons to make sure that she would relinquish the
snake that had bitten her. Because what happened here was
the hawk was about to eat the snake, it dropped
(10:36):
its dinner. The dinner dropped on her. The snake dinner
then bit her, and then the hawk attacked her to
get its dinner back. How is that even possible?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
This is the worst luck imaginable. The only way this
could have been worse is if she had been like
driving in a convertible and she had driven off the
road and killed herself because a snake happened to land
right on her, and then the hawk comes down, thinks
that she's basically stolen the meal, and is attacking her
to try to get the snake back.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I have an important question for you, Producer Mike reminds
me about the otter attack last week. What is a
more WT conversation when you go to the er I
was tubing and attacked by a random rogue otter or
I was attacked by a snake dropped out of the
sky and then attacked by a hawk at the same time.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, the second one, because it requires two animals to
violently simultaneously attack you who have nothing otherwise in common.
The idea of a snake falling from the sky and
landing on you feels really unfair, first of all the hawk.
Then following up, she said in the interview that when
she went to the hospital because she had to get
treatment from the double animal attack, they asked her if
(11:54):
she was on drugs because they it was such an
outlandish and ludicrous story. They didn't believe it. The beaver
or otter or whatever it was. I could see how
one crazy animal, particularly if it were rabid, could lose
its mind and end up going after people, But for
two animals that ties that typically would not be even
(12:14):
in the same place to both attack you simultaneously as brutal.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I wouldn't downtalk the otter clay that otter attacked three
people simultaneously and send one to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Those little otters are tough. Who knew I thought that
you were?
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Is?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Hey, Just get back out there, go mess around with
that otter. It's no big deal. You'll be fine. Odds
are low.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
In an otter.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Story, a woman was attacked by a snake and a hawk.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
See what I did there? I did? I did? I
just hope we're gonna end the show on that, huh.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I just hope that people of Rockaway Beach are safe
and that your poor advice doesn't get another person attacked.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Join now by my friend Charlie Arnault, who is going
to be on the OutKick Sunday at ten PM television show.
We're gonna have a lot of fun discussing with her.
But Charlie, let's start here. What did you think of
the Trump mugshot? And can you believe this is the
(13:21):
real world that we live in?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
The answer to your question, the first part, I thought
it was a great mugshot. I thought he had like
great intensity in his eyes. I think that it's going
to make for some fantastic merch. I plan to be
gripping in head to toe with Trump mugshot merch. I
knew all along that this was going to be like
a huge money maker for him, and it's actually great
because the more money he can make from all this
(13:46):
merchandise from his mugshot will be good to cover a
lot of his legal fees, which we know he's going
to have to pay up a lot of money along
the way. So there's that, but the fact that he
actually had a mugshot it is just ridiculous. And everyone
knows who Trump is, they know what he looks like.
He's not going anywhere. This was just a way for
(14:06):
you know, it's an attempt to embarrass him, it's an
assassination on his character. But I think we all realize
that by making this move, the Democrats have only done
him a favor, and I think his polling numbers are
going to continue to surge even more and his popularity
is going to go through the roof.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And I think it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I saw a meme earlier and it's, you know, it
was like two guys in the same like Superman type
suit trying to fight each other, and one was you know, Democrats,
the other was Conservatives. They're both wearing the same thing.
So it's like everyone's going to be downing the Trump
mug shop, but for their own reasons that they'll be different.
But at the end of the day, Trump's face is
(14:46):
going to be absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
So I don't know. I actually I actually think that
it's gonna end up helping him.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Okay, the debate was on Wednesday night. You and I
talked about Nicky Hayley's answer on abortion. You are a
young woman, you talk I bet Tons as a New
Yorker to other young women. What percentage of young female
(15:14):
voters do you think focus on abortion almost to the
exclusion of anything else, And what did you think of
Nicki Haley's answer in the debate.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, I think Nicki Haley's answer was phenomenal.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
I think she really got to the root of what
it means to focus on a candidate and their stands
on abortion, because in my experience, a lot of the
women that I talk to, especially I live in New
York City, so you know, very liberal city people are
so focused on the abortion issue. And it's interesting because
(15:47):
one of the first things I asked them, I'm like, oh,
have you got an abortion?
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Are you planning to get an abortion? No?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Okay, Well why is this the main issue that you
care about? And I think for a lot of people,
it's more of a prince I think that they think
that they should care about it, so this is where
they've put all of their focus. And I think people
don't realize that just because you're voting for a Republican
doesn't mean that they are anti abortion in a lot
of cases. I mean, there are the examples of rape, incest,
(16:19):
detrimental health to the mother or the child, that an
abortion is still seen as acceptable even though they are
pro life. And I think a lot of these Democrats
that people don't realize when they're voting for it's not
just allowing abortion in the first trimester or because of
these extreme circumstances. They're sometimes allowing these abortions to be
(16:42):
carried out at full term. And I think that a
lot of people would totally disagree with but they don't
realize it because in their minds they think, oh, Republican
anti abortion Democrat, pro abortion, and just because they're a woman,
they think that they should have that right to choose
what they do with their body.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I just think people misunderstand.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
The issue, and I think if people took a few
minutes to really dig a little deeper and see where
the stances on abortion differed, they would probably vote very differently.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You mentioned that you live in New York City. You
are starting to see many different places out there, including
Rutgers other colleges that are making the decision to bring
back masks. What do you think in twenty twenty three.
When you see a man wearing a mask?
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Oh you know what I think?
Speaker 6 (17:37):
I actually it was funny. I was just in Whole
Foods the other day.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
I was going up the escalator and there was a
guy coming down the escalator and he was clearly checking
me out, but who was wearing a mask?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And felt I just felt disgust it. I'm like, who
you are?
Speaker 7 (17:51):
The anti man, especially the type of man that I
would ever want to be seen with. So no, I
am repulse. I am very turned off by men. And honestly,
I mean not that I'm into women, but if a
woman in a mask not somebody that I would personally
ever choose to be friends with, because I'm not walking
down the street with you if you're wearing a mask.
(18:12):
I mean even it's insane outside right now, just people
on bikes are wearing masks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I love, by the way, this idea.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
So you're in Whole Foods and you're on an escalator
and a guy checks you out, and you were just
thoroughly disgusted, not because a guy was checking you out,
but because the guy checking you out was wearing a mask.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You were like, this is just a non starter.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, yeah, this is listen, check me out all you want,
but your chance of ever being with me are at
a zero percent because you're wearing that stupid mask and
I just I can't get behind it, and it drives
me insane. I mean, even when we were in the
height of COVID, I there's just like this, you know,
(18:59):
It's like a little mini fury that bubbles up inside
of you when you see people with masks on and
you just want to be like, what are you doing?
And especially I mean especially, like I just said, the
people outside.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Hey, dog, she doesn't like masks. She gets upset when
I talk about masks.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What's your dog's name, by the way, it's it's Zora.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh that's a great name.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So so Also, you did a video recently that I
loved for OutKick And by the way, we're talking to
Charlie Arnold and her dog Zoras in the background listening
to us right now, when you did a hit saying
I love toxic masculinity, which the idea of toxic masculinity
in general is patently absurd because I haven't heard anybody
(19:42):
talk about toxic femininity, right, But explain what you think
as a woman when you hear this idea of toxic masculinity.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
So I feel like toxic masculinity is actually the opposite,
because the things that are deemed toxic now in terms
of men are actually the things that make men men
and the things that I think should be celebrated. Like
I I think that the idea of traditional gender roles
still really resonates with me, Like I understand that I'm
capable of doing so much more. And do I think
(20:14):
that I should be forced to stay home and you know,
work in the kitchen and do all the laundry and
clean up the house exclusively. No, But I do believe that,
you know, a man should be able to be a man,
and I and I embrace those aspects of a man,
like I like when you know, for example, I love
when a man goes to the gym.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I like when he's strong. I like when he's sweaty.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
I like when he feels compelled to speak his mind,
even if you know it's something that I don't want
to hear.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I like, uh, you know when you know.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
On the same token, I like when a guy does
all the things that you know are chivalrous, Like I
want a guy to open the door for me. I
don't want him to, you know, let me do certain things,
even though some women are like, oh, I can do
it myself, you know, lifting my suitcase up on the plane.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'm all for a man being like I'm doing this.
I'm a man. There's just so many things that I
think women, you know, and I also you know, the
idea of just like taking control. I like that. I
don't need to be in control. I'm a very very
much an alpha female.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
But I like when a guy is able to take
the reins, take the lead. I don't see that it's
putting me down or just being dismissive in any way.
So I'm all for toxic masculinity. I want men to
continue being men so that women, at least women like me,
can continue being women.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's interesting, by the way, none of this stuff is
particularly crazy. There is a difference biologically between men and women,
and that existed for basically all of humanity until like
five years ago. And one of the things that you
and I are fired up about, and we've talked about
it a bunch on this program, is the idea that
(22:00):
a man could decide to identify as a woman and
win a women's championship and We're going to talk with
Riley Gaines on the OutKick special. It's going to be
on Fox News on Sunday. But a big part of that,
I think for making the decision to move Sage Steel
at ESPN, who you know, you used to work at
ESPN as well, what does it say about where we
(22:21):
are as a society that an actual sports company. Many
people don't feel comfortable saying, hey, men who identify as
women shouldn't be women's champions.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
How do we get here?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Well?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
I think we got here because people are afraid to
say anything. It's not that they do not feel that
that's how things are and how things should be. I
just think that people are afraid of being labeled transphobic
or hateful or bigoted, because.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
That's what happens.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I mean, even when I started speaking up about it,
as much as many people would come to me quietly
and say, oh my gosh, thank you so much for
saying this, you know, there was all the other people
that that publicly would say, oh, I cannot believe you'd
say this. I thought that you were an ally, you know,
I thought that you supported LGBTQ rights. And in my
response to them is, you know, I listen to the
(23:11):
term ally I think is lame. I'm not going to like,
you know, I don't want to like, I guess exacerbate
these liberal terms. But I have no problem with people
in the LGBTQ community. I think everybody should have the
same rights as everybody else does, same opportunities.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But that doesn't mean that you can unfringe on.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
A woman's space in order to exercise what you now
consider to be your right.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So I don't know, I just people just it's it's
the same, you know, same old playbook page from that
the left always uses.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
They try to come at you immediately with oh, you're hateful,
you're transphobic, and then you suddenly get scared to speak up,
and then that forces you to not, you know, really
like take a hard stance, which is what you're doing,
what I'm doing, what Riley's doing. But I think I
think most people would agree that this is just a
common sense issue.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
This isn't a political issue. It's very much common sense.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
And I'm hopeful that sooner or later it'll get to
the point where, you know, like we had the Sam
Ponders and saved steals at the ESPN. Now it's Sam
Ponder alone on an island, but hopefully eventually there'll be
more people speaking up.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
To keep women's sports. Women's sports.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Amen, Charlie, I will see you on Sunday. I hope
people will enjoy watching us ten o'clock eastern.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
On Fox News.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's gonna be a great show.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I hope, so, I hope so. I think it's gonna
go well. Ten o'clock eastern on Fox News. Charlie Arnault,
thank you for joining us. Appreciate all the good work.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
At out Kick.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Thank you. Bye, everyone,
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