March 3, 2024 • 26 mins
Flute-gate, the extended version.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast it starts.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now, is Jump the best van Halen song? Play? I
don't think I can name another van Halen song. Uh this, Uh,
this could be love or right? Uh get this, I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I recognize songs unless it's from the nineties or the
early two thousands. The odds of me knowing who actually
sang the song are almost zero. Like I know Elvis,
I know the Beatles, I know like the Rolling Stones,
stuff like that. But I'm I like I would I
would not have known who sings the Jump song.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You didn't know that was van Halen? No, I wouldn't
have known. I mean, I think when it's so, there's
two songs. When it's love by van Halen has got
to be up there, so that would be the other one.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm not kidding when I say I am tone deaf.
And also why can't this be loved? Just to be clear,
which is so it gets confusing. There's why can't this
be love? And when it's love, they're thinking a lot
about love over there. My knowledge of music is almost
non existent.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Really, so see this is interesting because we don't talk
about much of the show. I was a classically trained
musician growing up. No one ever knows what the what
the instrument is. It's clearly not the guitar, because I
would probably still be talking about it to this day.
People throw. I love the guesses too, People throw it
was the flute. Who's telling you these things? I'm just
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gonna say, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe maybe
the clarinet or.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Maybe the Trying to think, I'm trying to think of
what would be the most embarrassing instrument to have been
classically trained in, and I think it was the flute.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it would be the flute of all the instruments,
worse than the clarinet.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, because the clarinet, like you could actually, you know,
with the clarinet, you could be in a band and
not look like a loser. I don't think anyone has
ever blown a flute man not looked like a complete players.
Flute players unite at Clay Travis on Twitter. You got
to light him up on this one.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Have you not heard of James Galway or Jean Pierre
rampal Ser.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I've never heard of either, but I can guarantee you
they're losers because they play the flute. If you voluntarily
play the flute, I think you're a complete and total loser.
I'm not a huge band guy in the first place,
but of all the instruments you could play, I think
the highest loser contingent would be the flute.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So if we're not finding out but soon skills, if.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You're not willing to admit what instrument you played, I
presume it was the flute.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Sunday Hang with Bucks.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Clay Travis just a few minutes ago kicked off flute gate,
throwing this member of the woodwind family on the under
the bus. All across America flute players piccolo players, which
is really like a tiny I don't even know what
the piccolo is. See look at that no respect for
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this member of the woodwind family known as the flute.
Clay is not a floutist, and we have flute players
all across America telling us that they want to have
their word with mister Clay. So we will get to
that in a little bit. I just wanted to say
Clay decided to light that this. This is a theme
on this show. Sometimes I'm I'm looking one way and
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someone goes, hey is that Clay with an M A D.
And by the time I turn around, it's already lit
and about to go off. I'm like, good, heavens, what's
happening here? And there's Clay just gleeful grin on his
face as the m ad explodes.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm just I'm just picturing Buck like the flute big
flute community, instead of showing up outside the Supreme instead
of showing up outside the Supreme Court justices the protest.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You you don't understand. They're not gonna past. They're gonna
be on your front lawn all playing flute.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
What is what is the most annoying song that that
a flute player could play in?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like on moss like you're the big, big flute, green
sleeves might be up there for some people, that's a
classic flute. Uh, I don't know's there's some songs.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
They taught us buck in elementary school, we had the flute.
Did you have a xylophone when you were in elementary school?
Did you have to purchase a xylophone? Sure, yes, we had.
This is one of the most ridiculous. I'm very anti flute.
I may be even more anti xylophone. We had buck
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an entire It's funny to think about now because I'm
a parent. We had an entire Christmas special when I
was in elementary school where everyone set on the stage
with our xylophones in front of us and we played
Christmas songs with those little wooden mallets on those ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm going to share something with you that it's just
this is just between us, Okay, this is just between us.
At my school, we actually had a class at one
point called bells and you would have to put on
one that you hold, yes, yes, And we put on
white gloves to hold our bells, and then this is
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for the Christmas carols and stuff. We would sit there.
This was a class. It was like a trimester class.
It was only a few months, but we all learned
to swing our bell at the right moment with the
white gloves on.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That is unbelievable and I think about it now as
a parent. There are so many things that we did,
and like I can't imagine now showing up to watch
one of my own kids play, not seeing play the xylophone,
sitting on the stage Christmas music. The other thing buck
that we did. Did you do your schools might have
been too good for this. Our fundraiser was they gave
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us boxes of chocolate and we were just supposed to
walk around and sell chocolate bars.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And it's like slave labor. It's like the world mind
of that stuff still exists. We did a walkathon where
we were like, hey, we're gonna go walk around New
York City. Give us money. So no, we were not
above a little bit of the fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
We had chocolate candy carrying cases. I'm talking about like
eight years old, and it's basically slave labor. You're walking
around trying to sell this world's finest chocolate. It's just
a freaking chocolate bar. I don't understand how many of
the decisions that we were allowed to undertake in the
nineteen eighties were considered totally normal.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And I'll also tell you one thing that got rid
of at my school that I thought was was really good,
and I don't know how many other schools had this.
We had required for phizz ed wrestling as a class.
And not only do we have required wrestling, there was
a tournament that everybody had to You had to be
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in the tournament the whole school. The well, like like
the Royal Rumble from fourth to eighth grade, so it
was by grade year and it was by weight class.
But at the end of it you would actually end
up wrestling someone in front of the entire school from
grade to everybody else. And and I'm gonna tell you once,
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once you've had someone like pile driving your face into
the mat in front of five hundred of your of
your of your buddies. You know, it's a it's a
good uh, it's a good analogy for life. But also
you want to learn how to handle yourself a little bit.
And having that people think, you know that, oh, like
if someone like pushes me, I'm just gonna like turn
into a superhero. No, what actually happens is your heart
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starts beating out of your chest and you start getting scared,
and then you're you know, you have to figure out
are you gonna do something or you're just gonna get bumbled.
That's what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right, I'm gonna blow your mind here, buck, because
I couldn't believe this. My father in law, who grew
up in Michigan in the Detroit area, went to public school.
They talked them swim Okay, they had a swimming pool
at like the public school that he went to. They
were all nude for swim class in like the nineteen
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fifties in Michigan, you would go to learn how to swim,
and every.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
If he's pranking me.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
And I've mentioned this before and other people who were
like around that age are like, yeah, you know, we
learned how to swim at public school too. Everybody was naked.
Can you believe that that happened. I mean, I'm not
talking about happened in like the eighteen forties, like they
taught them how to swim. Nobody wore swimsuits. All the
boys were and they were not with the girls.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Elite men's athletic clubs and sort of social clubs and
you know, elite and quotes whatever. But in New York
for a long time that were all male. And yeah,
a lot of them had to go co ed because
there were lawsuits because of business that was being conducted
and women were excluded from this anyway. But when they
were all male, people are gonna think that I'm and
by the way, the famous ones that some of you
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know of the New York area, this people swam in
the pools naked and it would have been what years,
like I mean, this happened when I was This happened
when when you were a kid, like the nineteen eighties,
we we you know, we would wear but like there
were like really old dudes would splash around in their
naked Yes, the kids would wear bathing suits.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean, I couldn't of all the stories that I've
heard about kids going to school, I couldn't like the
fact that everybody would just show up totally naked and
get taught how to swim at public school.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Bonkers to me, it's how they did it. I mean,
it's it is. I agree that it's a bit of
a it's jarring. They had the Olympics naked back in age.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh, I know that back in Greece, in the ancient
in the ancient days.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
This show just took a really weird turn. Clay, what
have you done today? Security threat? All right, stuff talk
about naked swimming. Is Russia gonna blow us up in space? Yeah?
All right, here we go. Okay, everybody recentering here, blame
Clay for this one, and flute play send us, send
us your most fiery emails.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The big flute community is outraged over my assertion that
people who play flutes are losers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It is the loserrist of all the instruments. I looked
at it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I was just like, maybe I'm being unkind to flutes,
and I want to make it clear that I apologize
for absolutely nothing. I looked it up. I'm not even
sure what the second closest loser instrument is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
There.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You got that guy like you basically, especially if you're
a man.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe I'll go differently about your over harp as a really.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, the harp wasn't on my list of available instruments.
Score one for team flute out there. I do do
men play harps? I think the harp is only played
by like virginal women, right like I think once you
sleep with a man, you're not allowed to play the
harp anymore. That's the rule on the harp. I look
at the and I think to myself, you have decided
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to become an expert on holding basically a penis shaped
object in your hand and blowing into holes on it
all day long. This is not something that I choose
to do. More power to you. By the way, we
got an email, lots.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Of email, Clay. We have got nothing but emails, Clay.
Clay's This side of the third hour of the show
today is going to be devoted to naked swimming policies
and flute players. Clay.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is from Paul vip Email. I am a professional
flute player in South Florida. See when I hear that,
I just think like you're a male escort. That's what
I think when I read that sentence. Just wanted to say,
gay mail escort. By the way, just wanted to say,
guys who play the flute are serious chick magnets.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Ps. You guys are great. I love listening every day.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No woman has ever said, when she's seen a guy
play in the flute, I got to sleep with that guy.
That has never happened in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Sunday drop with Clay Buck.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The floodgates are open. Do we have calls to the
emails are flying in at a pace that is dizzying.
Right now, we have patriotic flute players across America, and
I neither confer nor deny. I mean, it's probably a
woodwind instrument. I can tell you that, but I'm not.
I'm not telling anyone one way or the other what
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instrument I grew up playing. I'm just gonna say right
now though, Clay, the flute players of America, they're gonna
come find you, my friend. And then we've also got
a lot of people who grew up swimming. What oh natural?
You know swimming? Tons of people are email let me
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read some of these for you. Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
By the way, poor Ali, she just said, I'm I'm
taking phone calls. It's all people talking about naked swimming
and gym class like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is the thing that I think if you are
did you have any idea this happened?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Would you have believed that public schools in like the
sixties and seventies men learned how to swim naked?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I would have. I thought I was being change you
change in the locker rooms, nake as long as it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, there's a big difference between being buck asked naked
in the swimming pool with one hundred other dudes and wearing.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Changing and putting on a swim question. When did buck
naked become a thing? Because I got to tell you,
wasn't easy growing up, Like what does a buck buck
have to do with big naked? It's just media matters.
It's a good question. I don't know, Buck naked someone,
you know, why is it like John naked, it's Buck naked.
It makes no sense to me. I don't understand anyway. Uh,
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I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start with one. You're catching
some fire here from Damon, one of our VIPs. I
suspected Clay would not know what a piccolo and some
other instruments like the obo is. Clay, those things you
played in elementary school were not flutes. They're called recorders,
you silly adolescents.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So Damon is not hurting my argument that people who
like to play flutes are losers. Because if you write
in and you're like, you don't even know what an
obo is, I'm gonna be like, yeah again, I stand
by it is there. We have millions of listeners. Is
there any woman right now listening to us that has
ever seen a man playing a flute and said I'm
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going home with that guy? There are millions of listeners
right now. You can call the show. You could confess
you saw a man playing the flute, because there's lots
of people out there who saw a man playing a guitar,
saw a man playing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh yeah, drums. The guy playing the guitar at the
college party. You can never trust your girlfriend next to
that guy, because you know what's coming next. He's gonna
put her name into the song. I wrote this just
for you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That's why the guy learned how to play the guitar
for the chicks. Everybody who learned how to play the
drums did it for the chicks. Nobody was like, I'm
gonna take this penis object and blow into it so
amazingly that every moved my fingers seductively on it, and
every woman in America is gonna want to be with me.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't think it's ever happened. Bob is writing in
these are all VIPs writing it. If you want to
be a vip, go to Claynbuck dot com. Please sign
up subscribe to this show, and Bob writes in hilarious,
I'm crying. Clay is so right. I don't know who
they are, but I know they're losers because they play
the flute. That is the quote that he has. Linda
taking the other side of this. Yike's flute discrimination for
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many years and still many of the top symphony players
around the country who play the flute are men. So
Linda is saying in the classical music World. Clay, flute
players do get some chicks, but they're probably the obo players.
She's just saying that they play it. She didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I stand by this. No woman has ever seen a
man playing the flute and said I'm going home with
this guy. You might have gone home with him despite
the fact that he played the flute. There are women
out there right now married guys who played the flute.
They're like, I wish you didn't play the flute. I
wish he'd played the guitar or the drums. I'm being
honest with you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh wait, here we go. Kendra writes in Clay, the
only way to be a cool flute player is to
be a classical flutist, and for goodness sake, keep the
flute out of classic rock songs. I'm an expert in
this as a music teacher, made my living teaching band
in schools, and I'm a saxophone player, the only really
cool instrument there is. And then she throws me under
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the bus. I bet you buck is an obo player
or maybe viola. Wowol.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I didn't play any instrument in school. I'm tone deaf.
I couldn't even sing in chorus, so I am objective here,
and people who play loser play flutes are losers.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's the rules, Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You could have played the guitar, you could have played
the drums and gotten chicks.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Scott writes Jump is van Halen's worst song by far.
In fact, if you look it up, you'll see that
that song was a betrayal at the time. Good van
Helen song include pretty Woman, Dancing in the Streets, running
with the Devil, drop Dead Legs. And I disagree. I
think Jump is at the top of the van Halen
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pantheon or catalog. I celebrate van Halen's whole catalog. And uh,
I don't I think this this You're throwing some heat
at one of the better songs. But Clay doesn't know
van Halen, so I don't think we can spend too
much time on that one. I don't know anything music.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
By the way, swimming emails to go for it, Phil says, Lockport, Illinois.
All the boys gym class swimming done in the nude
A ridiculous site. What many of us didn't know was
there was an air vent on the side of the
building where curious girls or others could get a glimpse
of us standing on the side of the pool. My
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immediate thought, I hope the pool was not cold. I
hope that that pool was warm. You're having a stand
around naked. Remember the Seinfeld episode. I was in the pool,
cold pool. I don't know this guy. I attended Tapping
Junior High Junior High in ann Arbor, Michigan in the sixties.
We regularly did all male swim classes in the nude.
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I look back on this and wonder what pervpedo implemented
these policies. Fortunately I have no complexes from it. I
guess that's when I knew for sure I wasn't gay.
We swam naked in chris We swam naked in high
school suburban Chicago in the seventies. Not just swimming, water
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polo too. They played games against each other water polo.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
This is this is an incredible Yes, switching gears here.
Mark writes agree Buck, the best Van Helen song is
why Can't This Be Love? Sammy Hagar all the Way?
And Bucky writes and appears that suddenly, overnight Buck has
become an expert on music. He knew who recorded Tainted
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Love yesterday and jumped today. That being said, music and
sports are the only two subjects I could beat him
at in a game of trivia. Bucky, I got news
for you. Just sports, buddy, Just wow, you're throwing down
the gauntlet on your music. Man. I wouldn't pretend for
a second that I could take Bucky in a in
a sports competition, but you'd have your hands full and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Doug writes in and says that I'm wrong. He says
bagpipes and the accordion are both worse than the flute.
I just bagpipes are bad as pretty badass people play
bagpipes and everyone wants to grab a claymore and run
off the war Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't agree with that, at.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Least you want to have it as like I can't
hear a bagpipe playing without wanting to to have it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I've never seen a female bagpipe. I've only seen dudes
playing bagpipe. And a guarantee, by the way you tell
a dude playing the bagpipe that it's like not manly,
you are getting a head butt to the face.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oh he would beat your ass. And and the accordion.
I know you love Lady in the Tramp the worst
of all the Disney movies, Buck, but one.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Of the guy who doesn't know music doesn't like the
Disney musical What a surprise. Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
One of the good scenes in UH A Lady in
the Tramp is when they have the spaghetti and they
run out and they have the kiss and they're playing
the accordion. I'm very pro accordion. The accordion dunks all
over the flute as well as the bagpipes. I think
that Doug should be a shame for that.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Take the limits. This is this is not nom there
are rules like there are limits here. I don't know
if you could just throw the accordion is better than
the flute? Like the accordion doesn't even have a place
in symphony orchestras Like that helps.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
This is not like.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Nobody wants to be in the symphony orchestra. You want
to be in a nice Italian restaurant. You want to
bring lovers together, you want to aid in the propagation
of the species. Do you want to have a guy
dancing around with a flute or do you want a
guy with an accordion and a nice, fancy Italian restaurant
bringing love together.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
This is not a tough This is not a tough call.
The accordion dominate. I will say we grew up in
an era and everybody who's roughly our age, you know,
because I'm in my early forties and Clays in his
late sixties, so everyone rough. I love when people write
in all you have to stop being mean about your age,
by the way, it's so fun. But yeah, Clay is
three years older than me, so our ages out there.
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You all know that the saxophone in the eighties and nineties, Oh,
it was legitimately a phenomenon. Like you go back and
listen to a lot of the top you listen to,
like top Whitney Houston songs. There are any gxophone solos.
I think the sax is a great instrument. And I
know people associated now with Bill Clinton, he's tunk at it,
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people who are really good sax players. I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I think there's a sex appeal for the saxophone.
I think women are impressed by the saxophone.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The character Ron Swanson as Duke Silver was a saxophone player.
So if it's good enough for Ron Swanson from Parks
and rec it's good enough for me.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think you're right, though, Bill, if you ask somebody
right now, I've bet in our listening audience, what's the
first thing you think of when you think of a saxophone.
I think a lot of people's answer is Bill Clinton
playing the saxophone on Saturday Night on Arsenio Hall. That's
where it was, right on our Cinio Hall show back
in the day, if I remember correctly, that was the
Fox Late night show. And uh, Arcinio, did you ever
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see Coming to America two? That came out recently with
Arcinio Hall in it, repurprising his role as.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Coming to America. Didn't know that. I didn't even know
they did it.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh it's pretty. It's decent for as remakes go. Twenty
years later. I think it was on.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It was a sequel?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Sorry, sequel, well, I said, part two? Yeah, sorry, Mike's
in my ear like it's a sequel. It's not a remake. Okay, sorry, yes,
Coming to America too. He reprises his role as the
you know, Consigliari or whatever his title was of the
Eddie Murphy character.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Consolieri because we don't pronounce the G in Italian and
he's the king of Zumunda, right, well, Eddie Murphy is.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But but Urcinio Hall is like his bodymate or whatever
you want to call him, like his chief, his chief protector.
He's really good. Yeah, he's really good in the in
that one, for sure, you have it to read, and
then we have to get some of these. We have
flute player rage coming through on the lines right now.
I just want to let you we did cover all
the main news today, so we do have that going
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for us. Let me just also mention Ali is saying
the saxophone. We watched The Lost Boys recently. There is
a shirtless saxophone player in the band in the movie
The Lost Boys. It is the most ripped, good looking
saxophone player of all time. I couldn't stop laughing about
it when we watched it because it's very eighties.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I think he was like in tight.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Jeans, shirtless, long hair, sunglasses, just killing it on the saxophone.
That is what Ali producer Ali thinks of, not Bill Clinton,
the incredibly good looking nineteen eighty saxophone player from Lost Boys.
So just clearing that up.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I just tell you my college roommate, true story,
was a tuba player, and he was the first tuba
player I ever met. Did he get chicks? I can
either concern wid and I no. I think he's married
happily now with several children. But I did have to
help him get I did have to help him get
some dates freshman year. If I recall yet, there you.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Go Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We have been deluged with people saying that my father
in law was not lying to me. That all of you,
many of you out there, especially in the Midwest, at
least learned how to swim naked in public schools. And
I still can't believe that this is real. Buck has
also done his research. That's a sexy saxophone player in
The Lost Boys, right, producer Ali had the crush on
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the saxophone player, like pretty good looking dude.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I mean, I can confirm that Ali thinks that he's
a handsome fellow who plays the sas. But I'm going
to defer to you on whether that alone is a
sex you know, phone player.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You you are married, you're heterosexual. You can acknowledge if
someone is grotesque or attractive. He's a good looking man,
he's very good looking, like ripped. I'm not saying that
I want to be a very.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Good shape I will I will I will admit to that.
I would. I want to know if he was taking
a little test, a little hgh what I want to
know what's in back?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's on straight steroids. Let's be honest. This was like
the WWE era getting tiptoe up.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
He grew up watching movies where all these guys were
supposed to be the height of masculinity. They were all
on steroids. Oh okay, totally Schwartzenegger steroids, Stallone steroids, Jehan
Claude Van Dam steroids, Dolph Lungren steroids.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You get on the whole Bacho Man, Randy Savage, everybody
that you saw shirtless in the nineteen eighties was shooting
up with steroids like crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah and so, and that's why, you know, I think
for a lot of people, they go to and I'm
actually beginning the fitness journey now not to get really fit,
just to get like less unfit. And I think a
lot of people have entirely unrealistic expectations because they they
naturally compare themselves to people who are on gear or
who are taking a stack of stuff every month, you know,
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like like liver King. Liver King was a perfect example.
He's like Okay, primals just you know, equol testicles and
live a primal life. And it's like and take ten
thousand dollars of steroids every month and you two can
have pecks the size of bowling balls. Yeah, it is
very funny. You don't hear very often women.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
They talk about all the time, like women have unnatural
body images because every girl on Instagram have mostly.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Plastic surgery based more than anything else. Now, Yeah, I
also I am. I'm a fan of O naturrel. I'm
not sure O natural swimming, but O natural and the
rest of life. By our generation, that was not a thing.
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast it starts.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now, is Jump the best van Halen song? Play? I
don't think I can name another van Halen song. Uh this, Uh,
this could be love or right? Uh get this, I don't.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I recognize songs unless it's from the nineties or the
early two thousands. The odds of me knowing who actually
sang the song are almost zero. Like I know Elvis,
I know the Beatles, I know like the Rolling Stones,
stuff like that. But I'm I like I would I
would not have known who sings the Jump song.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You didn't know that was van Halen? No, I wouldn't
have known. I mean, I think when it's so, there's
two songs. When it's love by van Halen has got
to be up there, so that would be the other one.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm not kidding when I say I am tone deaf.
And also why can't this be loved? Just to be clear,
which is so it gets confusing. There's why can't this
be love? And when it's love, they're thinking a lot
about love over there. My knowledge of music is almost
non existent.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Really, so see this is interesting because we don't talk
about much of the show. I was a classically trained
musician growing up. No one ever knows what the what
the instrument is. It's clearly not the guitar, because I
would probably still be talking about it to this day.
People throw. I love the guesses too, People throw it
was the flute. Who's telling you these things? I'm just
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gonna say, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe maybe
the clarinet or.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Maybe the Trying to think, I'm trying to think of
what would be the most embarrassing instrument to have been
classically trained in, and I think it was the flute.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it would be the flute of all the instruments,
worse than the clarinet.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, because the clarinet, like you could actually, you know,
with the clarinet, you could be in a band and
not look like a loser. I don't think anyone has
ever blown a flute man not looked like a complete players.
Flute players unite at Clay Travis on Twitter. You got
to light him up on this one.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Have you not heard of James Galway or Jean Pierre
rampal Ser.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I've never heard of either, but I can guarantee you
they're losers because they play the flute. If you voluntarily
play the flute, I think you're a complete and total loser.
I'm not a huge band guy in the first place,
but of all the instruments you could play, I think
the highest loser contingent would be the flute.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So if we're not finding out but soon skills, if.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
You're not willing to admit what instrument you played, I
presume it was the flute.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Sunday Hang with Bucks.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Clay Travis just a few minutes ago kicked off flute gate,
throwing this member of the woodwind family on the under
the bus. All across America flute players piccolo players, which
is really like a tiny I don't even know what
the piccolo is. See look at that no respect for
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this member of the woodwind family known as the flute.
Clay is not a floutist, and we have flute players
all across America telling us that they want to have
their word with mister Clay. So we will get to
that in a little bit. I just wanted to say
Clay decided to light that this. This is a theme
on this show. Sometimes I'm I'm looking one way and
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someone goes, hey is that Clay with an M A D.
And by the time I turn around, it's already lit
and about to go off. I'm like, good, heavens, what's
happening here? And there's Clay just gleeful grin on his
face as the m ad explodes.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm just I'm just picturing Buck like the flute big
flute community, instead of showing up outside the Supreme instead
of showing up outside the Supreme Court justices the protest.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You you don't understand. They're not gonna past. They're gonna
be on your front lawn all playing flute.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
What is what is the most annoying song that that
a flute player could play in?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Like on moss like you're the big, big flute, green
sleeves might be up there for some people, that's a
classic flute. Uh, I don't know's there's some songs.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
They taught us buck in elementary school, we had the flute.
Did you have a xylophone when you were in elementary school?
Did you have to purchase a xylophone? Sure, yes, we had.
This is one of the most ridiculous. I'm very anti flute.
I may be even more anti xylophone. We had buck
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an entire It's funny to think about now because I'm
a parent. We had an entire Christmas special when I
was in elementary school where everyone set on the stage
with our xylophones in front of us and we played
Christmas songs with those little wooden mallets on those ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm going to share something with you that it's just
this is just between us, Okay, this is just between us.
At my school, we actually had a class at one
point called bells and you would have to put on
one that you hold, yes, yes, And we put on
white gloves to hold our bells, and then this is
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for the Christmas carols and stuff. We would sit there.
This was a class. It was like a trimester class.
It was only a few months, but we all learned
to swing our bell at the right moment with the
white gloves on.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That is unbelievable and I think about it now as
a parent. There are so many things that we did,
and like I can't imagine now showing up to watch
one of my own kids play, not seeing play the xylophone,
sitting on the stage Christmas music. The other thing buck
that we did. Did you do your schools might have
been too good for this. Our fundraiser was they gave
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us boxes of chocolate and we were just supposed to
walk around and sell chocolate bars.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And it's like slave labor. It's like the world mind
of that stuff still exists. We did a walkathon where
we were like, hey, we're gonna go walk around New
York City. Give us money. So no, we were not
above a little bit of the fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
We had chocolate candy carrying cases. I'm talking about like
eight years old, and it's basically slave labor. You're walking
around trying to sell this world's finest chocolate. It's just
a freaking chocolate bar. I don't understand how many of
the decisions that we were allowed to undertake in the
nineteen eighties were considered totally normal.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And I'll also tell you one thing that got rid
of at my school that I thought was was really good,
and I don't know how many other schools had this.
We had required for phizz ed wrestling as a class.
And not only do we have required wrestling, there was
a tournament that everybody had to You had to be
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in the tournament the whole school. The well, like like
the Royal Rumble from fourth to eighth grade, so it
was by grade year and it was by weight class.
But at the end of it you would actually end
up wrestling someone in front of the entire school from
grade to everybody else. And and I'm gonna tell you once,
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once you've had someone like pile driving your face into
the mat in front of five hundred of your of
your of your buddies. You know, it's a it's a
good uh, it's a good analogy for life. But also
you want to learn how to handle yourself a little bit.
And having that people think, you know that, oh, like
if someone like pushes me, I'm just gonna like turn
into a superhero. No, what actually happens is your heart
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starts beating out of your chest and you start getting scared,
and then you're you know, you have to figure out
are you gonna do something or you're just gonna get bumbled.
That's what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right, I'm gonna blow your mind here, buck, because
I couldn't believe this. My father in law, who grew
up in Michigan in the Detroit area, went to public school.
They talked them swim Okay, they had a swimming pool
at like the public school that he went to. They
were all nude for swim class in like the nineteen
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fifties in Michigan, you would go to learn how to swim,
and every.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
If he's pranking me.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
And I've mentioned this before and other people who were
like around that age are like, yeah, you know, we
learned how to swim at public school too. Everybody was naked.
Can you believe that that happened. I mean, I'm not
talking about happened in like the eighteen forties, like they
taught them how to swim. Nobody wore swimsuits. All the
boys were and they were not with the girls.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Elite men's athletic clubs and sort of social clubs and
you know, elite and quotes whatever. But in New York
for a long time that were all male. And yeah,
a lot of them had to go co ed because
there were lawsuits because of business that was being conducted
and women were excluded from this anyway. But when they
were all male, people are gonna think that I'm and
by the way, the famous ones that some of you
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know of the New York area, this people swam in
the pools naked and it would have been what years,
like I mean, this happened when I was This happened
when when you were a kid, like the nineteen eighties,
we we you know, we would wear but like there
were like really old dudes would splash around in their
naked Yes, the kids would wear bathing suits.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean, I couldn't of all the stories that I've
heard about kids going to school, I couldn't like the
fact that everybody would just show up totally naked and
get taught how to swim at public school.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Bonkers to me, it's how they did it. I mean,
it's it is. I agree that it's a bit of
a it's jarring. They had the Olympics naked back in age.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Oh, I know that back in Greece, in the ancient
in the ancient days.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
This show just took a really weird turn. Clay, what
have you done today? Security threat? All right, stuff talk
about naked swimming. Is Russia gonna blow us up in space? Yeah?
All right, here we go. Okay, everybody recentering here, blame
Clay for this one, and flute play send us, send
us your most fiery emails.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
The big flute community is outraged over my assertion that
people who play flutes are losers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
It is the loserrist of all the instruments. I looked
at it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I was just like, maybe I'm being unkind to flutes,
and I want to make it clear that I apologize
for absolutely nothing. I looked it up. I'm not even
sure what the second closest loser instrument is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
There.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You got that guy like you basically, especially if you're
a man.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Maybe I'll go differently about your over harp as a really.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, the harp wasn't on my list of available instruments.
Score one for team flute out there. I do do
men play harps? I think the harp is only played
by like virginal women, right like I think once you
sleep with a man, you're not allowed to play the
harp anymore. That's the rule on the harp. I look
at the and I think to myself, you have decided
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to become an expert on holding basically a penis shaped
object in your hand and blowing into holes on it
all day long. This is not something that I choose
to do. More power to you. By the way, we
got an email, lots.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Of email, Clay. We have got nothing but emails, Clay.
Clay's This side of the third hour of the show
today is going to be devoted to naked swimming policies
and flute players. Clay.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
This is from Paul vip Email. I am a professional
flute player in South Florida. See when I hear that,
I just think like you're a male escort. That's what
I think when I read that sentence. Just wanted to say,
gay mail escort. By the way, just wanted to say,
guys who play the flute are serious chick magnets.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Ps. You guys are great. I love listening every day.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No woman has ever said, when she's seen a guy
play in the flute, I got to sleep with that guy.
That has never happened in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Sunday drop with Clay Buck.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
The floodgates are open. Do we have calls to the
emails are flying in at a pace that is dizzying.
Right now, we have patriotic flute players across America, and
I neither confer nor deny. I mean, it's probably a
woodwind instrument. I can tell you that, but I'm not.
I'm not telling anyone one way or the other what
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instrument I grew up playing. I'm just gonna say right
now though, Clay, the flute players of America, they're gonna
come find you, my friend. And then we've also got
a lot of people who grew up swimming. What oh natural?
You know swimming? Tons of people are email let me
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read some of these for you. Buck.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
By the way, poor Ali, she just said, I'm I'm
taking phone calls. It's all people talking about naked swimming
and gym class like.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is the thing that I think if you are
did you have any idea this happened?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Would you have believed that public schools in like the
sixties and seventies men learned how to swim naked?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I would have. I thought I was being change you
change in the locker rooms, nake as long as it's not.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, there's a big difference between being buck asked naked
in the swimming pool with one hundred other dudes and wearing.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Changing and putting on a swim question. When did buck
naked become a thing? Because I got to tell you,
wasn't easy growing up, Like what does a buck buck
have to do with big naked? It's just media matters.
It's a good question. I don't know, Buck naked someone,
you know, why is it like John naked, it's Buck naked.
It makes no sense to me. I don't understand anyway. Uh,
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I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start with one. You're catching
some fire here from Damon, one of our VIPs. I
suspected Clay would not know what a piccolo and some
other instruments like the obo is. Clay, those things you
played in elementary school were not flutes. They're called recorders,
you silly adolescents.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So Damon is not hurting my argument that people who
like to play flutes are losers. Because if you write
in and you're like, you don't even know what an
obo is, I'm gonna be like, yeah again, I stand
by it is there. We have millions of listeners. Is
there any woman right now listening to us that has
ever seen a man playing a flute and said I'm
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going home with that guy? There are millions of listeners
right now. You can call the show. You could confess
you saw a man playing the flute, because there's lots
of people out there who saw a man playing a guitar,
saw a man playing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh yeah, drums. The guy playing the guitar at the
college party. You can never trust your girlfriend next to
that guy, because you know what's coming next. He's gonna
put her name into the song. I wrote this just
for you.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That's why the guy learned how to play the guitar
for the chicks. Everybody who learned how to play the
drums did it for the chicks. Nobody was like, I'm
gonna take this penis object and blow into it so
amazingly that every moved my fingers seductively on it, and
every woman in America is gonna want to be with me.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I don't think it's ever happened. Bob is writing in
these are all VIPs writing it. If you want to
be a vip, go to Claynbuck dot com. Please sign
up subscribe to this show, and Bob writes in hilarious,
I'm crying. Clay is so right. I don't know who
they are, but I know they're losers because they play
the flute. That is the quote that he has. Linda
taking the other side of this. Yike's flute discrimination for
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many years and still many of the top symphony players
around the country who play the flute are men. So
Linda is saying in the classical music World. Clay, flute
players do get some chicks, but they're probably the obo players.
She's just saying that they play it. She didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I stand by this. No woman has ever seen a
man playing the flute and said I'm going home with
this guy. You might have gone home with him despite
the fact that he played the flute. There are women
out there right now married guys who played the flute.
They're like, I wish you didn't play the flute. I
wish he'd played the guitar or the drums. I'm being
honest with you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh wait, here we go. Kendra writes in Clay, the
only way to be a cool flute player is to
be a classical flutist, and for goodness sake, keep the
flute out of classic rock songs. I'm an expert in
this as a music teacher, made my living teaching band
in schools, and I'm a saxophone player, the only really
cool instrument there is. And then she throws me under
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the bus. I bet you buck is an obo player
or maybe viola. Wowol.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I didn't play any instrument in school. I'm tone deaf.
I couldn't even sing in chorus, so I am objective here,
and people who play loser play flutes are losers.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's the rules, Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You could have played the guitar, you could have played
the drums and gotten chicks.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Scott writes Jump is van Halen's worst song by far.
In fact, if you look it up, you'll see that
that song was a betrayal at the time. Good van
Helen song include pretty Woman, Dancing in the Streets, running
with the Devil, drop Dead Legs. And I disagree. I
think Jump is at the top of the van Halen
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pantheon or catalog. I celebrate van Halen's whole catalog. And uh,
I don't I think this this You're throwing some heat
at one of the better songs. But Clay doesn't know
van Halen, so I don't think we can spend too
much time on that one. I don't know anything music.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
By the way, swimming emails to go for it, Phil says, Lockport, Illinois.
All the boys gym class swimming done in the nude
A ridiculous site. What many of us didn't know was
there was an air vent on the side of the
building where curious girls or others could get a glimpse
of us standing on the side of the pool. My
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immediate thought, I hope the pool was not cold. I
hope that that pool was warm. You're having a stand
around naked. Remember the Seinfeld episode. I was in the pool,
cold pool. I don't know this guy. I attended Tapping
Junior High Junior High in ann Arbor, Michigan in the sixties.
We regularly did all male swim classes in the nude.
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I look back on this and wonder what pervpedo implemented
these policies. Fortunately I have no complexes from it. I
guess that's when I knew for sure I wasn't gay.
We swam naked in chris We swam naked in high
school suburban Chicago in the seventies. Not just swimming, water
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polo too. They played games against each other water polo.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
This is this is an incredible Yes, switching gears here.
Mark writes agree Buck, the best Van Helen song is
why Can't This Be Love? Sammy Hagar all the Way?
And Bucky writes and appears that suddenly, overnight Buck has
become an expert on music. He knew who recorded Tainted
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Love yesterday and jumped today. That being said, music and
sports are the only two subjects I could beat him
at in a game of trivia. Bucky, I got news
for you. Just sports, buddy, Just wow, you're throwing down
the gauntlet on your music. Man. I wouldn't pretend for
a second that I could take Bucky in a in
a sports competition, but you'd have your hands full and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Doug writes in and says that I'm wrong. He says
bagpipes and the accordion are both worse than the flute.
I just bagpipes are bad as pretty badass people play
bagpipes and everyone wants to grab a claymore and run
off the war Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't agree with that, at.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Least you want to have it as like I can't
hear a bagpipe playing without wanting to to have it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I've never seen a female bagpipe. I've only seen dudes
playing bagpipe. And a guarantee, by the way you tell
a dude playing the bagpipe that it's like not manly,
you are getting a head butt to the face.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Oh he would beat your ass. And and the accordion.
I know you love Lady in the Tramp the worst
of all the Disney movies, Buck, but one.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Of the guy who doesn't know music doesn't like the
Disney musical What a surprise. Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
One of the good scenes in UH A Lady in
the Tramp is when they have the spaghetti and they
run out and they have the kiss and they're playing
the accordion. I'm very pro accordion. The accordion dunks all
over the flute as well as the bagpipes. I think
that Doug should be a shame for that.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Take the limits. This is this is not nom there
are rules like there are limits here. I don't know
if you could just throw the accordion is better than
the flute? Like the accordion doesn't even have a place
in symphony orchestras Like that helps.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
This is not like.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Nobody wants to be in the symphony orchestra. You want
to be in a nice Italian restaurant. You want to
bring lovers together, you want to aid in the propagation
of the species. Do you want to have a guy
dancing around with a flute or do you want a
guy with an accordion and a nice, fancy Italian restaurant
bringing love together.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
This is not a tough This is not a tough call.
The accordion dominate. I will say we grew up in
an era and everybody who's roughly our age, you know,
because I'm in my early forties and Clays in his
late sixties, so everyone rough. I love when people write
in all you have to stop being mean about your age,
by the way, it's so fun. But yeah, Clay is
three years older than me, so our ages out there.
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You all know that the saxophone in the eighties and nineties, Oh,
it was legitimately a phenomenon. Like you go back and
listen to a lot of the top you listen to,
like top Whitney Houston songs. There are any gxophone solos.
I think the sax is a great instrument. And I
know people associated now with Bill Clinton, he's tunk at it,
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people who are really good sax players. I think it's cool.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I think there's a sex appeal for the saxophone.
I think women are impressed by the saxophone.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The character Ron Swanson as Duke Silver was a saxophone player.
So if it's good enough for Ron Swanson from Parks
and rec it's good enough for me.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think you're right, though, Bill, if you ask somebody
right now, I've bet in our listening audience, what's the
first thing you think of when you think of a saxophone.
I think a lot of people's answer is Bill Clinton
playing the saxophone on Saturday Night on Arsenio Hall. That's
where it was, right on our Cinio Hall show back
in the day, if I remember correctly, that was the
Fox Late night show. And uh, Arcinio, did you ever
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see Coming to America two? That came out recently with
Arcinio Hall in it, repurprising his role as.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Coming to America. Didn't know that. I didn't even know
they did it.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh it's pretty. It's decent for as remakes go. Twenty
years later. I think it was on.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It was a sequel?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Sorry, sequel, well, I said, part two? Yeah, sorry, Mike's
in my ear like it's a sequel. It's not a remake. Okay, sorry, yes,
Coming to America too. He reprises his role as the
you know, Consigliari or whatever his title was of the
Eddie Murphy character.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Consolieri because we don't pronounce the G in Italian and
he's the king of Zumunda, right, well, Eddie Murphy is.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
But but Urcinio Hall is like his bodymate or whatever
you want to call him, like his chief, his chief protector.
He's really good. Yeah, he's really good in the in
that one, for sure, you have it to read, and
then we have to get some of these. We have
flute player rage coming through on the lines right now.
I just want to let you we did cover all
the main news today, so we do have that going
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for us. Let me just also mention Ali is saying
the saxophone. We watched The Lost Boys recently. There is
a shirtless saxophone player in the band in the movie
The Lost Boys. It is the most ripped, good looking
saxophone player of all time. I couldn't stop laughing about
it when we watched it because it's very eighties.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I think he was like in tight.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Jeans, shirtless, long hair, sunglasses, just killing it on the saxophone.
That is what Ali producer Ali thinks of, not Bill Clinton,
the incredibly good looking nineteen eighty saxophone player from Lost Boys.
So just clearing that up.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And I just tell you my college roommate, true story,
was a tuba player, and he was the first tuba
player I ever met. Did he get chicks? I can
either concern wid and I no. I think he's married
happily now with several children. But I did have to
help him get I did have to help him get
some dates freshman year. If I recall yet, there you.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Go Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We have been deluged with people saying that my father
in law was not lying to me. That all of you,
many of you out there, especially in the Midwest, at
least learned how to swim naked in public schools. And
I still can't believe that this is real. Buck has
also done his research. That's a sexy saxophone player in
The Lost Boys, right, producer Ali had the crush on
(24:33):
the saxophone player, like pretty good looking dude.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I mean, I can confirm that Ali thinks that he's
a handsome fellow who plays the sas. But I'm going
to defer to you on whether that alone is a
sex you know, phone player.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You you are married, you're heterosexual. You can acknowledge if
someone is grotesque or attractive. He's a good looking man,
he's very good looking, like ripped. I'm not saying that
I want to be a very.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Good shape I will I will I will admit to that.
I would. I want to know if he was taking
a little test, a little hgh what I want to
know what's in back?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's on straight steroids. Let's be honest. This was like
the WWE era getting tiptoe up.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
He grew up watching movies where all these guys were
supposed to be the height of masculinity. They were all
on steroids. Oh okay, totally Schwartzenegger steroids, Stallone steroids, Jehan
Claude Van Dam steroids, Dolph Lungren steroids.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You get on the whole Bacho Man, Randy Savage, everybody
that you saw shirtless in the nineteen eighties was shooting
up with steroids like crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah and so, and that's why, you know, I think
for a lot of people, they go to and I'm
actually beginning the fitness journey now not to get really fit,
just to get like less unfit. And I think a
lot of people have entirely unrealistic expectations because they they
naturally compare themselves to people who are on gear or
who are taking a stack of stuff every month, you know,
(25:54):
like like liver King. Liver King was a perfect example.
He's like Okay, primals just you know, equol testicles and
live a primal life. And it's like and take ten
thousand dollars of steroids every month and you two can
have pecks the size of bowling balls. Yeah, it is
very funny. You don't hear very often women.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
They talk about all the time, like women have unnatural
body images because every girl on Instagram have mostly.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Plastic surgery based more than anything else. Now, Yeah, I
also I am. I'm a fan of O naturrel. I'm
not sure O natural swimming, but O natural and the
rest of life. By our generation, that was not a thing.
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