March 17, 2024 • 24 mins
Dogs and dating etiquette.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold, reverence and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playin'
Buck podcast and it starts now, I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I think ninety nine percent of this audience would agree
with me, Klay, I love them. Ginger was running around.
If you saw in the video, go to clanbuck dot com.
She decides, right, she's been a little up. I'm sorry,
she barked in the background. She decided to get the
zuomies in the radio studio. I've never seen an animal
run so fast in such a confined space. She was
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just running in circles while I was trying to start
the show with you. But I love dogs, and I'd
spring it up because Carrie and I we had to
stop her. We want to go adopt a few. We
want to just get like a whole house full of dogs.
We want kids, the whole thing. Joe Biden's dog, this
just came out yesterday, has bitten Secret Service agents twenty
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four times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Now. I know people get very defensive. They go, oh,
it's a rescue. No, no, no, no, it's not about the dog.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There's something wrong with Biden and his handlers Clay that
they have one white house dog, or maybe it's two.
But they're not many of them, and it's attacking secret
service agents. Basically twenty four bytes. Yeah, twenty four bites.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And I'm going to talk about this when we come
back for a sec because I think I've told the
story on this show. When I was in first grade,
I got bitten by a German shepherd and you know,
fortunately it didn't detract from my incredible good looks, but
you can still see I have a big scar on
my face where that dog got me. And the idea
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to me, what this just represents is where are the
consequences for anyone around Joe Biden. It feels to me
like everyone that is connected to him in any way,
whether it's his son, whether it's his brother, whether it's
his dog, whether it's doctor Jill, there is a consequence
free environment, and I think the dog is a representative
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example of that. A lot of funny comments. One of
you wrote in I want to see a remake of
Roots with the slaves played by white actors. That would
be really, really funny. I feel like the only people
with the juice to do it would be somebody like
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Trey Parker and Matt Stone, who basically did a cartoon
version of this mocking what's gone on at Disney by
saying that the South Park characters, who are you know,
little white cartoon kids, were suddenly going to be replaced
by black women in the multiverse or whatever. They did
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a version of this in cartoon. But it would be
amazing to see what the reaction would be if you did,
like I said, a country and Western version of the
Obama administration with white people playing the Obamas, or even funnier,
like even more satirical, would be doing Roots with white
actors playing the original roles of the of the black actors.
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By the way, let me come back on that German
Shepherd commander I believe is his name anything named commander
I saw? I think it was Joe Consha tweeting about this,
But it's true. The Washington Commanders now instead of the Redskins,
have been a disaster for twenty years or whatever the
heck it is the commander German Shepherd. Maybe not a
good mix of name and location when it comes to Washington, DC,
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but so buck. When I was in first grade, I
had a I had chicken pox, and I went over
to my friend Neil's house. If everybody out there, I
think I asked you this before in New York City,
you did not have something called chicken pox parties, right. No,
when I was growing up, you got chicken pox, like
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four or five six years old. All the moms would
bring everybody together. The idea was they wanted everybody this
is before you could get a chicken I think they
have a chicken pox vaccine now, but this is but
I think it actually works. I'm like the COVID shot.
But you wanted to get chicken pox when you were
young because the data reflected that if you get it young,
it's far less likely to be serious than if you
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get it you make it through your childhood and you
get it at an older age. So that was kind
of the idea. So everybody had chicken pox that I
knew around the same age, like five six years old.
It just ran through the entire neighborhood schools. Everybody got it.
I'm over at my friend Neil's house. He has a
German shepherd named Casper. And when you're a little kid,
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dogs are really close to you. I think you forget
as you become an adult. A dog might come up
to your you know, it might come up to your knee,
might come up to your hip when you're an adult,
but you have space between his mouth and your face.
When you're a little kid, a big dog like a
German Shepherd is is right by your face. Basically, I
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went outside, I pet the top of this dog's head,
and the dog German shepherd, immediately leapt up and basically
ripped off half my face. I had buck a hole
in my cheek. My lip was split open all the
way up to the nose. You could see my cheek bone.
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All of the skin was just hanging off one side
of my face. Now, this dog narrowly missed my eye
and narrowly missed my throat. Either direction, I could have
lost an eye. I could have lost I mean, if
you get hit in the throat, I mean I could
have died right if he hit the throat at the
right place. There's a dog in the backyard, never had
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any issue at all, but he jumped up. I didn't
do anything. I reached out, I pet him on the head,
and next thing you know, he's attacked me and I
had to get over fifty stitches. You think about how
many fifty stitches are on a kid who's that little.
I mean, my whole face was a stick, basically, and
so the idea that you would allow that dog. When
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that happened, they put that dog down. They said, if
that dog is capable of attacking a kid in the
backyard that was doing nothing, that dog is too dangerous
to allow to be around other people too. The idea
that you would allow a dog to bite twenty four
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people at the White House, many of whom were bought
bit significantly enough buck that they needed to go to treatment.
Some people say, what's just dog, Why does it matter
to me? It is, that's how you have a huge
baggie of cocaine. That's how to me, that's how you
have somebody like Hunter Biden who's never paid any consequence
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for any of his behavior. Biden doesn't seem capable of
holding anyone around him. That's how you have a Southern
border that's wide open. There are no consequence is for
behavior inside of the entire Biden administration, and I think
the dog is a metaphor for that. It shouldn't be
acceptable that you would have something to do. Shouldn't be
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able to have a dog in bites people. Twice secret
Service agents who are forced to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There's a recklessness and a lack of consideration for others
at the very top of this White House chain of command.
I mean, Joe Biden slash his handlers. It's very interesting
to see who really is in charge of these things, right,
we don't know that's kept from us, but Biden is
clearly to say he's lost a step. As an understatement,
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Biden doesn't have that many steps left. I mean, Biden
is a guy who's going to be needing round the
clock care within just a matter of a few years,
I think at best. And on the dog issue, I mean,
I know people get very very fired up about this.
I was telling you this before. I just took as
Actually Carol Markowitz, our friend who's in the Carol Markowitz Show.
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She's her podcast appears on the Clay and Buck streams.
If you subscribe to Clay and Bucky, you listen to
Carol market show.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's a great show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Another pitch for you all to subscribe to content that
you can't hear here on the radio, but it's in
our podcast stream. I took her out for an intro
intro Firearms Day effectively. Right, I've been through this many
times CIA and MYPD and now in private life. I
train with some instructors and we took her out. And
one thing I'd say is, when you're starting out with somebody,
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you know, you don't put a you know, you'd start
them maybe with a nine millimeter pistol and then you
maybe you sort of build up and then you go
to long gun. If you're going to do some tactical shooting,
you don't start them out with a fully automatic weapon
and say here you go, pull the trigger and see
what happens. Right, Because it's an it can be fine
in the hands of somebody who knows what they're doing,
it's perfectly safe. And but if you don't know what
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you're doing. I mean, I have a phenomenal Kerry and
I have a phenomenal dog trainer. Her name is Tekla,
and she's been helping us with Ginger. With Ginger, the
the area of how do I put this Your room
for error, your margin for error is if she has
a bad day, she's gonna nip you on the ankle,
you know what I mean. Yeah, if you have a
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one hundred and twenty pound present Canario or you have
a pit bull that is, you know, very broad chested
and weighs eighty pounds, et cetera. It's not that you
know that can't be a good dog, it's that do
you know how to handle that dog?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Are you capable of? And German Shepherd's a lot of
dog and I've seen people more than once who couldn't
handle their German Shepherd. I've seen people who couldn't handle
other dog breeds as well. But it's different than when
you can't handle your minuture poodle. It's like a twenty
two caliber versus a machine gun. Joe Biden having a
German Shepherd?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What is he doing?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
He clearly can't you see what I'm saying. He clearly
can't be the one in charge of it. There's no way.
So someone else is in charge of it. Who's in
charge of it? It's biting people. It just goes to
show you there is a lack of command and control.
I know people are going to say this is overreach,
this is crazy. It's just a dog. This is a
dog in the White House that is injuring Secret Service agents.
And the President's not embarrassed by it because the president
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doesn't even know, because the president's not really calling the
shots behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and look, I had to have after this biting
three surgeries as a little kid, and again you can
still see a pretty significant scar on my face. Now
I'm fine. I'm not a huge fan of dogs as
a result. If you had half your face ripped off
by a dog when you were five or six years old,
you're probably not sitting around like I want twenty dogs
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at my house. But to me, it is an incredible
form of recklessness and entitlement for Joe Biden to decide
his German shepherd can bite people twenty four times before
they say, okay, we need to do something about this.
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And I'm sure all the secret Service agents and everybody
who's working in the White House that's getting bit who
are lower down the food chain than Joe Biden are
sitting around saying, why should we be at risk from
this dog in order to try to do our job?
And buck I always think this is really the lesson
of life. You don't judge people by how they treat
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their equals. I don't think you judge people by how
they treat their boss. To me, you judge people by
how they treat people who are in theory beneath them
in some way, right, how do you treat a waiter
or a waitress. How do you treat a somebody who
is cleaning a car? How do you treat somebody who
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is in a service industry job.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Or, in the case of Secret Service, somebody who is
sworn to protect you and put themselves in harm's way
to protect you. Joe Biden used to go naked swimming
in front of female Secret Service details without a second thought,
and now has this dog running around biting them all
the time. I know somebody who was on Biden's detail
Secret Service, and I cannot say on the radio what
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he thought of him, but he was not a fan.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, so I think that ultimately you get a sense
for what somebody is really like by how they behave
in that fashion. And to me, I think you can
draw a line between the way that the dog has
behaved and frankly, the way Hunter has behaved and the
way so many people surrounding Joe Biden have. There are
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no consequences for bad behavior, and when that occurs, you
have entitlement and you have worse behavior coming. I agree
with all that.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I also think it goes to chain of command, though
Joe Biden is not in charge of Commander obviously, But
what does it say that the president of the United
States can't be in charge of his own dog? Clay, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying this, How far are we
from Joe Biden can't tie his own shoes in the morning? Really,
you know, this is what you know, dogs a very
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personal thing, right like this, This is a decision. Be
Joe and Jill in charge of the dog. And you know,
for those of us who love our dogs, it's like
a member of the family. You don't you don't just
sort of do this for the for the optics, and
clearly he's not actually in charge.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It has no idea. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Sunday? Hang with and Buck John.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
In San Diego? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
John just wanted to kind of chime in about what
you guys are talking about and German sheppers and stuff.
I've had him for forty years. And when I was
younger and I was doing, uh, not such good things
and hanging around not such good people, my dog was
a reflection of me, and he was a mean dog.
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And when I got sober, it seems that my dog
got sober too, and he was a totally different dog.
When I changed my lifestyle and.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Dogs pick up you can I say something, I mean
dogs pick up anxiety in the household.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Dog too. By the way, I think a huge part
of parentings.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So people that are you know when when parents or
you know, if you if you let's say, you know,
not to speak to you, sir. But in general, if
someone is fighting a lot with their spouse, that creates
a more anxious, intense dog. That's that that's fearful and
more likely to lot. These things are this is all
very clear in the literature.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, totally. And I would think that
that dog would have some type of training like shits
and training or some type of training where he's on
or off, just like a police dog. I mean they're
either on or they're off. And something's got to be
going on with uh with commander that he's something's uneasy
and he's acting out, you know by.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You see it because you you own a German to
you know you and a German shepherd, so you understand
that there's something going on behind closed doors because those
can be very loving family family pets. But as Clay
was discussing, and have you discussed if somebody mishandles it
like I said, you're mishandling. You know, a machine gun,
not a twenty two. I mean they they can do
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real damage.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And most people would say, I thank you for the call.
By the way, most people would say that their dogs
have a one or two bite.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Rule, right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, if you bite somebody once, the odds that
you're going to bite somebody again is high. And I'm
not talking about like playful you know, nipping and things
like that, right, I'm talking about something that requires medical treatment,
which is different than like, Hey, we're going to go
throw a ball and you're pulling a ball out of
a mouth and bite from a German shepherd is going
to break the skin. And that means the animal is
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trying to do damage and is scared and probably lashing out.
Or it could be it could have prey drive coming up.
But anyway, h Norman in Alabama, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Hey, We've raised trained shepherds, and I wrote a couple
of amments for Emily's Law here in Alabama that specify
whether a bite is justified or not justified. But under
Alabama's law of the commander would end up being before
the court and probably put down because.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
How many bites would it take sorry to cut you off.
And I'm act I'm assuming Emily is a little girl
in Alabama. If that's the law, that was attacked by dogs,
and in some way this is to protect this.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Lady in North Alabama was killed by dogs.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, so the ideas you're trying to protect people, what
would the number of bites be that a dog would
be at an Alabama that they would say, you know,
we got to put this dog down.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It does not have a number of bites because it
doesn't take due process away, which is something I really appreciate.
But it does bring this situation before the court after
an investigation, and if the investigation determines that this dog
is has the potential being a danger's dog, then it's
brought before the court and then either the dog can
be put down or the owner has to have a bond,
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has to have it in a secure area.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Ye treated like you with a wolf.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That's that's exactly what should be done. I agree, Rule Norman.
Thank you for calling in. And you know, Clay, you
were saying, how kid when I said kids juveniles? You
get access to weapons that use if there's recklessness in
the part of the parents, you can be reckless with
your dog ownership too, right, I mean that's that, and
an individual, the human being, is actually the one responsible
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for what happens as a result of that dog.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
We'll dive in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Do you wonder does the VIP sweepstakes a little bit
here next, because we've been talking, let's do that. We
haven't gotten to that one yet. But also how that
could shape the shape the upcoming election a bit if
it can't at all. And then Letitia James, the Attorney
General of New York State, is saying out loud, they
might just start seizing Trump's buildings. That's where we are
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in twenty twenty four. Everybody Donald Trump is running for
president and they're gonna start taking away Trump towers, so
to speak. We'll get into it. Joe Biden's dog, which
has bitten twenty four times in the White House twenty
four times.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
German shepherd.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh, one of our listeners text me and said, hey,
you said your dog trainer is great. Our dog trainer's
name is Tekla and her website is Universityofdog dot com.
She's nominal you, nominal you.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I bet that website gets knocked offline now, I'm just
she's not a bad not a bad problem for her
to have necessarily. But I bet a lot of times
with advertisers on this show, the first time they come on,
we knock their website off, So I bet the University
Offdog dot Com is not usually del whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
The website's amazing. She does virtual virtual training. We sent
her videos because we love like Ginger. Those of you
who watch on the stream playinbook dot com go sign
up for it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh you will.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
See occasionally I'm bending down and dealing with something. It's
usually as Ginger is pawing out my foot to play
with her or something. But she's so much better with
us leaving her than she used to be. She had
terrible separation anxiety. Dogs have separation anxiety from her owners
like baby, like a baby that's left alone. And uh,
Tekla got us to get that totally under control of
some ingenious training stuff. So it's University Offdog dot com
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for her if you want to go do that and
just helping the dog owners out there. I had never
had a dog trainer before, and now it's like I
would never not have a dog trainer as somebody was
a dog.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Sunday Drop with Clay Buck.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
This went super viral on Reddit, and I'm gonna ask
producer Ali to also pull up her mic. Guy was
dating a girl said he was twenty eight years old.
They corresponded quite a lot before they met in person,
had a ton in common. Girl was twenty four. Girl
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shows up for the date, says the guy looked noticeably
different in age than his appearance in the photo that
she had seen. He confessed that he was forty two.
Age was just a number, and he thought that she
would not be interested in him if he had been
honest about his age. She then left the date, did
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not tell him she was leaving, but just said I
have to go to the bathroom and didn't return. Her
friend said that it was super rude. She has gone
on read it and asked people for their feedback. Fair
or foul for two people? I think there was a
New York City dating scene. Yeah, Buck, how many times
have you shown up for a date in your life
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and the person was completely different than what you expected?
And I'm also curious for Ali, what's the appropriate response there?
Right or wrong by the girl?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
All right, well, Buck, the date doctor is in the house,
and I will tell you that she was fully within
her rights to be you know, annoyed, disappointed and put
off by that's not he said he was twenty eight,
but he's actually thirty. I'm gonna say, on some of
those dating apps, you set your age right, and some
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people will put a cut off. So maybe you know,
if you're thirty one and you want to be considered
for the thirties, that one I think you can have,
you know, smile and you know, let's let's not pretend
like someone's a different You.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Want to date somebody in their twenties and you're thirty one,
you might put your age down two years younger than
you are right now. I don't recommend that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think dishonesty is bad, but I'm saying I think
that one because of the moment everything else. Twenty eight
forty two. No, sorry, that's a deal breaker. That's game over.
She's right with that. But you always have to tell somebody.
It is never the appropriate move, unless you think you
are in physical jeopardy, to leave someone not knowing whether
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you're coming back to the table or not. You know,
I remember I had a young woman, you know, she
was my age many years ago, told me I was
actually at a Bavarian like beer Hall festival thing in
New York. There were a whole lot and she was
one of the girls who was dressed as like the
Saint Pauli girl. And that's what they call it, right, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Later hoses for the dudes, that's like, oh, what's the
girls what? It's a girl's outfit. I like that outfit.
Yeah that's good, you know, yeah, very very good.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Look.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But I was I remember she's telling me that she
was on a date with a guy and she got
up and left the middle of the date. And I
was like, you can't do that. She's like, what do
you mean. I was like, that's not nice. It's not nice.
So she should have said to him, look, you know,
I I really you know that that that kind of
dishonesty is a problem for me.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I hope you have a great rest of your day
and just walk away.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I might even give the guy, you know, the whole
date sort of for practice and then just you know,
plan to not hang out with him or you know,
and vice versa if it were a girl in that situation.
But so, yeah, the the problem that I have with
her is you can't leave someone. You can't say you're
going to the bathroom and actually leave unless you think
that you're in Jeff, unless you think that your safety
is at risk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
This guy is like actually scaring you. Ali. You are
the female here. What's the worst Why that you were
told before you went on a date with someone during
your New York City time? And do you agree with
the girl just bailing when the guy claims he's twenty
eight later confesses he's forty two. That's what, But eighteen
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years older than the girl, I mean, fourteen twenty four
is a big teams.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I'm with Buck on this. I mean, unless you feel
you're in danger, I don't. I don't think it's cool
to just like that. But I would have just calmly
asked him, well, if age is just a number, why
didn't you just tell me you were forty two at
the outset and just sort of throw it right back
and let them know it's not cool. But I don't
think I would just walk out not return.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I do think that's By the way, Buck and I
are debating, Matthew. Sorry to cut you off, Alley, she
was twenty eight and forty two, that's a fourteen year different. Yeah,
but he is eighteen years older than her. Oh okay, okay,
yeah you different? Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, okay. So, Ali,
what is the worst thing that you have seen in
your dating universe that? What's the worst? I mean? Is
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it height? Is it baldness?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
What a men? Why about the most in your experience?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Well, I've found and again this, I have friends that
have met their future husbands and wives on online dating.
So it's it's not terrible for everybody, but for me.
Ninety nine percent of the people misrepresented themselves either age, height, weight.
All the above photos outdated by two decades.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You are fo three and once went to data man
who said he was five.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Eight, and when we walked up to each other, we
were eye to eye.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So I don't know. I'm just gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Women out there in the dating scene again the date
doctor Buck is in the house. I was shocked to find.
Now I'm I'm okay height wise for most when not
all women. Some women are too short. You know, you
and I are both about basically six feet. I am
shocked at how heightest women are. Women are heightest.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I've been married twenty years. My wife is five to two.
She told me if I were five eight she would
have never dated me, and I'm six inches taller than her.
I was about six foot carry five to three. That's
the strike zone right there. I mean to be five
to two would be like if you were five eight,
I'm done with you. Men could never do that.
Bold, reverence and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playin'
Buck podcast and it starts now, I love dogs.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I think ninety nine percent of this audience would agree
with me, Klay, I love them. Ginger was running around.
If you saw in the video, go to clanbuck dot com.
She decides, right, she's been a little up. I'm sorry,
she barked in the background. She decided to get the
zuomies in the radio studio. I've never seen an animal
run so fast in such a confined space. She was
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just running in circles while I was trying to start
the show with you. But I love dogs, and I'd
spring it up because Carrie and I we had to
stop her. We want to go adopt a few. We
want to just get like a whole house full of dogs.
We want kids, the whole thing. Joe Biden's dog, this
just came out yesterday, has bitten Secret Service agents twenty
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four times.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Now. I know people get very defensive. They go, oh,
it's a rescue. No, no, no, no, it's not about the dog.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
There's something wrong with Biden and his handlers Clay that
they have one white house dog, or maybe it's two.
But they're not many of them, and it's attacking secret
service agents. Basically twenty four bytes. Yeah, twenty four bites.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And I'm going to talk about this when we come
back for a sec because I think I've told the
story on this show. When I was in first grade,
I got bitten by a German shepherd and you know,
fortunately it didn't detract from my incredible good looks, but
you can still see I have a big scar on
my face where that dog got me. And the idea
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to me, what this just represents is where are the
consequences for anyone around Joe Biden. It feels to me
like everyone that is connected to him in any way,
whether it's his son, whether it's his brother, whether it's
his dog, whether it's doctor Jill, there is a consequence
free environment, and I think the dog is a representative
(01:57):
example of that. A lot of funny comments. One of
you wrote in I want to see a remake of
Roots with the slaves played by white actors. That would
be really, really funny. I feel like the only people
with the juice to do it would be somebody like
(02:18):
Trey Parker and Matt Stone, who basically did a cartoon
version of this mocking what's gone on at Disney by
saying that the South Park characters, who are you know,
little white cartoon kids, were suddenly going to be replaced
by black women in the multiverse or whatever. They did
(02:39):
a version of this in cartoon. But it would be
amazing to see what the reaction would be if you did,
like I said, a country and Western version of the
Obama administration with white people playing the Obamas, or even funnier,
like even more satirical, would be doing Roots with white
actors playing the original roles of the of the black actors.
(03:04):
By the way, let me come back on that German
Shepherd commander I believe is his name anything named commander
I saw? I think it was Joe Consha tweeting about this,
But it's true. The Washington Commanders now instead of the Redskins,
have been a disaster for twenty years or whatever the
heck it is the commander German Shepherd. Maybe not a
good mix of name and location when it comes to Washington, DC,
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but so buck. When I was in first grade, I
had a I had chicken pox, and I went over
to my friend Neil's house. If everybody out there, I
think I asked you this before in New York City,
you did not have something called chicken pox parties, right. No,
when I was growing up, you got chicken pox, like
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four or five six years old. All the moms would
bring everybody together. The idea was they wanted everybody this
is before you could get a chicken I think they
have a chicken pox vaccine now, but this is but
I think it actually works. I'm like the COVID shot.
But you wanted to get chicken pox when you were
young because the data reflected that if you get it young,
it's far less likely to be serious than if you
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get it you make it through your childhood and you
get it at an older age. So that was kind
of the idea. So everybody had chicken pox that I
knew around the same age, like five six years old.
It just ran through the entire neighborhood schools. Everybody got it.
I'm over at my friend Neil's house. He has a
German shepherd named Casper. And when you're a little kid,
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dogs are really close to you. I think you forget
as you become an adult. A dog might come up
to your you know, it might come up to your knee,
might come up to your hip when you're an adult,
but you have space between his mouth and your face.
When you're a little kid, a big dog like a
German Shepherd is is right by your face. Basically, I
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went outside, I pet the top of this dog's head,
and the dog German shepherd, immediately leapt up and basically
ripped off half my face. I had buck a hole
in my cheek. My lip was split open all the
way up to the nose. You could see my cheek bone.
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All of the skin was just hanging off one side
of my face. Now, this dog narrowly missed my eye
and narrowly missed my throat. Either direction, I could have
lost an eye. I could have lost I mean, if
you get hit in the throat, I mean I could
have died right if he hit the throat at the
right place. There's a dog in the backyard, never had
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any issue at all, but he jumped up. I didn't
do anything. I reached out, I pet him on the head,
and next thing you know, he's attacked me and I
had to get over fifty stitches. You think about how
many fifty stitches are on a kid who's that little.
I mean, my whole face was a stick, basically, and
so the idea that you would allow that dog. When
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that happened, they put that dog down. They said, if
that dog is capable of attacking a kid in the
backyard that was doing nothing, that dog is too dangerous
to allow to be around other people too. The idea
that you would allow a dog to bite twenty four
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people at the White House, many of whom were bought
bit significantly enough buck that they needed to go to treatment.
Some people say, what's just dog, Why does it matter
to me? It is, that's how you have a huge
baggie of cocaine. That's how to me, that's how you
have somebody like Hunter Biden who's never paid any consequence
(06:50):
for any of his behavior. Biden doesn't seem capable of
holding anyone around him. That's how you have a Southern
border that's wide open. There are no consequence is for
behavior inside of the entire Biden administration, and I think
the dog is a metaphor for that. It shouldn't be
acceptable that you would have something to do. Shouldn't be
(07:11):
able to have a dog in bites people. Twice secret
Service agents who are forced to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
There's a recklessness and a lack of consideration for others
at the very top of this White House chain of command.
I mean, Joe Biden slash his handlers. It's very interesting
to see who really is in charge of these things, right,
we don't know that's kept from us, but Biden is
clearly to say he's lost a step. As an understatement,
(07:38):
Biden doesn't have that many steps left. I mean, Biden
is a guy who's going to be needing round the
clock care within just a matter of a few years,
I think at best. And on the dog issue, I mean,
I know people get very very fired up about this.
I was telling you this before. I just took as
Actually Carol Markowitz, our friend who's in the Carol Markowitz Show.
(07:58):
She's her podcast appears on the Clay and Buck streams.
If you subscribe to Clay and Bucky, you listen to
Carol market show.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's a great show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Another pitch for you all to subscribe to content that
you can't hear here on the radio, but it's in
our podcast stream. I took her out for an intro
intro Firearms Day effectively. Right, I've been through this many
times CIA and MYPD and now in private life. I
train with some instructors and we took her out. And
one thing I'd say is, when you're starting out with somebody,
(08:28):
you know, you don't put a you know, you'd start
them maybe with a nine millimeter pistol and then you
maybe you sort of build up and then you go
to long gun. If you're going to do some tactical shooting,
you don't start them out with a fully automatic weapon
and say here you go, pull the trigger and see
what happens. Right, Because it's an it can be fine
in the hands of somebody who knows what they're doing,
it's perfectly safe. And but if you don't know what
(08:51):
you're doing. I mean, I have a phenomenal Kerry and
I have a phenomenal dog trainer. Her name is Tekla,
and she's been helping us with Ginger. With Ginger, the
the area of how do I put this Your room
for error, your margin for error is if she has
a bad day, she's gonna nip you on the ankle,
you know what I mean. Yeah, if you have a
(09:11):
one hundred and twenty pound present Canario or you have
a pit bull that is, you know, very broad chested
and weighs eighty pounds, et cetera. It's not that you
know that can't be a good dog, it's that do
you know how to handle that dog?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Are you capable of? And German Shepherd's a lot of
dog and I've seen people more than once who couldn't
handle their German Shepherd. I've seen people who couldn't handle
other dog breeds as well. But it's different than when
you can't handle your minuture poodle. It's like a twenty
two caliber versus a machine gun. Joe Biden having a
German Shepherd?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What is he doing?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
He clearly can't you see what I'm saying. He clearly
can't be the one in charge of it. There's no way.
So someone else is in charge of it. Who's in
charge of it? It's biting people. It just goes to
show you there is a lack of command and control.
I know people are going to say this is overreach,
this is crazy. It's just a dog. This is a
dog in the White House that is injuring Secret Service agents.
And the President's not embarrassed by it because the president
(10:10):
doesn't even know, because the president's not really calling the
shots behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and look, I had to have after this biting
three surgeries as a little kid, and again you can
still see a pretty significant scar on my face. Now
I'm fine. I'm not a huge fan of dogs as
a result. If you had half your face ripped off
by a dog when you were five or six years old,
you're probably not sitting around like I want twenty dogs
(10:35):
at my house. But to me, it is an incredible
form of recklessness and entitlement for Joe Biden to decide
his German shepherd can bite people twenty four times before
they say, okay, we need to do something about this.
(10:55):
And I'm sure all the secret Service agents and everybody
who's working in the White House that's getting bit who
are lower down the food chain than Joe Biden are
sitting around saying, why should we be at risk from
this dog in order to try to do our job?
And buck I always think this is really the lesson
of life. You don't judge people by how they treat
(11:19):
their equals. I don't think you judge people by how
they treat their boss. To me, you judge people by
how they treat people who are in theory beneath them
in some way, right, how do you treat a waiter
or a waitress. How do you treat a somebody who
is cleaning a car? How do you treat somebody who
(11:41):
is in a service industry job.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Or, in the case of Secret Service, somebody who is
sworn to protect you and put themselves in harm's way
to protect you. Joe Biden used to go naked swimming
in front of female Secret Service details without a second thought,
and now has this dog running around biting them all
the time. I know somebody who was on Biden's detail
Secret Service, and I cannot say on the radio what
(12:05):
he thought of him, but he was not a fan.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, so I think that ultimately you get a sense
for what somebody is really like by how they behave
in that fashion. And to me, I think you can
draw a line between the way that the dog has
behaved and frankly, the way Hunter has behaved and the
way so many people surrounding Joe Biden have. There are
(12:27):
no consequences for bad behavior, and when that occurs, you
have entitlement and you have worse behavior coming. I agree
with all that.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I also think it goes to chain of command, though
Joe Biden is not in charge of Commander obviously, But
what does it say that the president of the United
States can't be in charge of his own dog? Clay, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying this, How far are we
from Joe Biden can't tie his own shoes in the morning? Really,
you know, this is what you know, dogs a very
(12:55):
personal thing, right like this, This is a decision. Be
Joe and Jill in charge of the dog. And you know,
for those of us who love our dogs, it's like
a member of the family. You don't you don't just
sort of do this for the for the optics, and
clearly he's not actually in charge.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It has no idea. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Sunday? Hang with and Buck John.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
In San Diego? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
John just wanted to kind of chime in about what
you guys are talking about and German sheppers and stuff.
I've had him for forty years. And when I was
younger and I was doing, uh, not such good things
and hanging around not such good people, my dog was
a reflection of me, and he was a mean dog.
(13:37):
And when I got sober, it seems that my dog
got sober too, and he was a totally different dog.
When I changed my lifestyle and.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Dogs pick up you can I say something, I mean
dogs pick up anxiety in the household.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Dog too. By the way, I think a huge part
of parentings.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
So people that are you know when when parents or
you know, if you if you let's say, you know,
not to speak to you, sir. But in general, if
someone is fighting a lot with their spouse, that creates
a more anxious, intense dog. That's that that's fearful and
more likely to lot. These things are this is all
very clear in the literature.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, totally. And I would think that
that dog would have some type of training like shits
and training or some type of training where he's on
or off, just like a police dog. I mean they're
either on or they're off. And something's got to be
going on with uh with commander that he's something's uneasy
and he's acting out, you know by.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You see it because you you own a German to
you know you and a German shepherd, so you understand
that there's something going on behind closed doors because those
can be very loving family family pets. But as Clay
was discussing, and have you discussed if somebody mishandles it
like I said, you're mishandling. You know, a machine gun,
not a twenty two. I mean they they can do
(14:57):
real damage.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And most people would say, I thank you for the call.
By the way, most people would say that their dogs
have a one or two bite.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Rule, right.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, if you bite somebody once, the odds that
you're going to bite somebody again is high. And I'm
not talking about like playful you know, nipping and things
like that, right, I'm talking about something that requires medical treatment,
which is different than like, Hey, we're going to go
throw a ball and you're pulling a ball out of
a mouth and bite from a German shepherd is going
to break the skin. And that means the animal is
(15:27):
trying to do damage and is scared and probably lashing out.
Or it could be it could have prey drive coming up.
But anyway, h Norman in Alabama, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Hey, We've raised trained shepherds, and I wrote a couple
of amments for Emily's Law here in Alabama that specify
whether a bite is justified or not justified. But under
Alabama's law of the commander would end up being before
the court and probably put down because.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
How many bites would it take sorry to cut you off.
And I'm act I'm assuming Emily is a little girl
in Alabama. If that's the law, that was attacked by dogs,
and in some way this is to protect this.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Lady in North Alabama was killed by dogs.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, so the ideas you're trying to protect people, what
would the number of bites be that a dog would
be at an Alabama that they would say, you know,
we got to put this dog down.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It does not have a number of bites because it
doesn't take due process away, which is something I really appreciate.
But it does bring this situation before the court after
an investigation, and if the investigation determines that this dog
is has the potential being a danger's dog, then it's
brought before the court and then either the dog can
be put down or the owner has to have a bond,
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has to have it in a secure area.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Ye treated like you with a wolf.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That's that's exactly what should be done. I agree, Rule Norman.
Thank you for calling in. And you know, Clay, you
were saying, how kid when I said kids juveniles? You
get access to weapons that use if there's recklessness in
the part of the parents, you can be reckless with
your dog ownership too, right, I mean that's that, and
an individual, the human being, is actually the one responsible
(17:06):
for what happens as a result of that dog.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
We'll dive in.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Do you wonder does the VIP sweepstakes a little bit
here next, because we've been talking, let's do that. We
haven't gotten to that one yet. But also how that
could shape the shape the upcoming election a bit if
it can't at all. And then Letitia James, the Attorney
General of New York State, is saying out loud, they
might just start seizing Trump's buildings. That's where we are
(17:34):
in twenty twenty four. Everybody Donald Trump is running for
president and they're gonna start taking away Trump towers, so
to speak. We'll get into it. Joe Biden's dog, which
has bitten twenty four times in the White House twenty
four times.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
German shepherd.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Oh, one of our listeners text me and said, hey,
you said your dog trainer is great. Our dog trainer's
name is Tekla and her website is Universityofdog dot com.
She's nominal you, nominal you.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I bet that website gets knocked offline now, I'm just
she's not a bad not a bad problem for her
to have necessarily. But I bet a lot of times
with advertisers on this show, the first time they come on,
we knock their website off, So I bet the University
Offdog dot Com is not usually del whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
The website's amazing. She does virtual virtual training. We sent
her videos because we love like Ginger. Those of you
who watch on the stream playinbook dot com go sign
up for it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh you will.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
See occasionally I'm bending down and dealing with something. It's
usually as Ginger is pawing out my foot to play
with her or something. But she's so much better with
us leaving her than she used to be. She had
terrible separation anxiety. Dogs have separation anxiety from her owners
like baby, like a baby that's left alone. And uh,
Tekla got us to get that totally under control of
some ingenious training stuff. So it's University Offdog dot com
(18:57):
for her if you want to go do that and
just helping the dog owners out there. I had never
had a dog trainer before, and now it's like I
would never not have a dog trainer as somebody was
a dog.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Sunday Drop with Clay Buck.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
This went super viral on Reddit, and I'm gonna ask
producer Ali to also pull up her mic. Guy was
dating a girl said he was twenty eight years old.
They corresponded quite a lot before they met in person,
had a ton in common. Girl was twenty four. Girl
(19:32):
shows up for the date, says the guy looked noticeably
different in age than his appearance in the photo that
she had seen. He confessed that he was forty two.
Age was just a number, and he thought that she
would not be interested in him if he had been
honest about his age. She then left the date, did
(19:54):
not tell him she was leaving, but just said I
have to go to the bathroom and didn't return. Her
friend said that it was super rude. She has gone
on read it and asked people for their feedback. Fair
or foul for two people? I think there was a
New York City dating scene. Yeah, Buck, how many times
have you shown up for a date in your life
(20:14):
and the person was completely different than what you expected?
And I'm also curious for Ali, what's the appropriate response there?
Right or wrong by the girl?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
All right, well, Buck, the date doctor is in the house,
and I will tell you that she was fully within
her rights to be you know, annoyed, disappointed and put
off by that's not he said he was twenty eight,
but he's actually thirty. I'm gonna say, on some of
those dating apps, you set your age right, and some
(20:44):
people will put a cut off. So maybe you know,
if you're thirty one and you want to be considered
for the thirties, that one I think you can have,
you know, smile and you know, let's let's not pretend
like someone's a different You.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Want to date somebody in their twenties and you're thirty one,
you might put your age down two years younger than
you are right now. I don't recommend that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think dishonesty is bad, but I'm saying I think
that one because of the moment everything else. Twenty eight
forty two. No, sorry, that's a deal breaker. That's game over.
She's right with that. But you always have to tell somebody.
It is never the appropriate move, unless you think you
are in physical jeopardy, to leave someone not knowing whether
(21:25):
you're coming back to the table or not. You know,
I remember I had a young woman, you know, she
was my age many years ago, told me I was
actually at a Bavarian like beer Hall festival thing in
New York. There were a whole lot and she was
one of the girls who was dressed as like the
Saint Pauli girl. And that's what they call it, right, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Later hoses for the dudes, that's like, oh, what's the
girls what? It's a girl's outfit. I like that outfit.
Yeah that's good, you know, yeah, very very good.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Look.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
But I was I remember she's telling me that she
was on a date with a guy and she got
up and left the middle of the date. And I
was like, you can't do that. She's like, what do
you mean. I was like, that's not nice. It's not nice.
So she should have said to him, look, you know,
I I really you know that that that kind of
dishonesty is a problem for me.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I hope you have a great rest of your day
and just walk away.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I might even give the guy, you know, the whole
date sort of for practice and then just you know,
plan to not hang out with him or you know,
and vice versa if it were a girl in that situation.
But so, yeah, the the problem that I have with
her is you can't leave someone. You can't say you're
going to the bathroom and actually leave unless you think
that you're in Jeff, unless you think that your safety
is at risk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
This guy is like actually scaring you. Ali. You are
the female here. What's the worst Why that you were
told before you went on a date with someone during
your New York City time? And do you agree with
the girl just bailing when the guy claims he's twenty
eight later confesses he's forty two. That's what, But eighteen
(22:51):
years older than the girl, I mean, fourteen twenty four
is a big teams.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I'm with Buck on this. I mean, unless you feel
you're in danger, I don't. I don't think it's cool
to just like that. But I would have just calmly
asked him, well, if age is just a number, why
didn't you just tell me you were forty two at
the outset and just sort of throw it right back
and let them know it's not cool. But I don't
think I would just walk out not return.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I do think that's By the way, Buck and I
are debating, Matthew. Sorry to cut you off, Alley, she
was twenty eight and forty two, that's a fourteen year different. Yeah,
but he is eighteen years older than her. Oh okay, okay,
yeah you different? Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, okay. So, Ali,
what is the worst thing that you have seen in
your dating universe that? What's the worst? I mean? Is
(23:36):
it height? Is it baldness?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
What a men? Why about the most in your experience?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Well, I've found and again this, I have friends that
have met their future husbands and wives on online dating.
So it's it's not terrible for everybody, but for me.
Ninety nine percent of the people misrepresented themselves either age, height, weight.
All the above photos outdated by two decades.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
You are fo three and once went to data man
who said he was five.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Eight, and when we walked up to each other, we
were eye to eye.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So I don't know. I'm just gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Women out there in the dating scene again the date
doctor Buck is in the house. I was shocked to find.
Now I'm I'm okay height wise for most when not
all women. Some women are too short. You know, you
and I are both about basically six feet. I am
shocked at how heightest women are. Women are heightest.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I've been married twenty years. My wife is five to two.
She told me if I were five eight she would
have never dated me, and I'm six inches taller than her.
I was about six foot carry five to three. That's
the strike zone right there. I mean to be five
to two would be like if you were five eight,
I'm done with you. Men could never do that.
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