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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random the Sunday hang with Playing
Buck podcast and it starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Taking a moment here instead of trying to save the Republic,
thinking about the ancient Roman Republic will actually by the
time of this movie, I believe it had turned into
the Empire and under the Emperor. But the the trailer
for Gladiator two is out and it has Denzel Washington,
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who is a top ten, maybe top five favorite actor
of mine, So I like that's fair. I gotta get
excited about the Denzel component of this. The production value
looks excellent. Also has the guy who's forget his name.
He's the guy he was he was Oberin in a
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Game of Thrones. You know what I'm talking about? That guy,
Pedro Pascal. He's becoming about.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Greg, Sir Greg, just like I mean, does he have
a Pedro Pascal the poster on his wall?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Greg, he celebrates Pedro's whole catalog. Yess.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I mean he came in just like out of nowhere. Well,
he's he's in.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
He's in the last of us. I mean he's been
in some he's been in some big stuff since he
was one of the most memorable characters and had certainly
one of the most memorable and spoiler alert in all
of Game of Thrones. I almost stopped watching after what
happened to him because I just couldn't literally stemmach it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I'm just almost by the way, thinking if you'd been like,
he's got kind of a chisel jaw, a little bit
of a He's just like Pedro Mescal, you know, our
otherwise heterosexual. He's really kind of dreamy looking. He's got
like kind of a soft beard. He's like immediately he's
like jump said, but yes, that's one of the great
all time scenes in Game of Thrones is the Viper
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versus the Mountain, the fight that they have, the combat.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
But Gladiator, the original with Russell Crowe is one of
my Laura Clay's wife has said it is her favorite movie.
It is a top five movie for me. It maybe
really top three. It's just I love Braveheart a little more,
but I do love Gladiator like this is this is
like the Hulk versus the Thing or something like either
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one could win the battle. I get worried. Man, They've
made so many bad sequels of things they've They've done
so much damage to Indiana Jones, for example, so much
damage to Ghostbusters, I get worried.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I will say Denzel doesn't make very many bad movies.
If you had to just pick a guy in the
last twenty years that you were like, I don't even
know anything about this movie. I just trust him. He
doesn't screw up too much. I would say top two,
Tom Cruise, Denzel. They just don't make very many bad movies.
You go watch one of their movies, you're not like, man,
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that was a wasted ten dollars, Like I can't believe
I set through that for two hours?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you agree with me? Like? Those guys don't swing
and miss very often. Yeah, I know. That's why the
Denzel component I like a lot. I think I heard
jay Z music in the end of the trailer, which
what happened to the Hans Zimmer soundtrack, which is incredible, Like,
I hope it's Hans Zimmer again. I don't need jay
Z for ancient Rome. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So we'll see Gary Gatsby, which I didn't think was awful,
but they tried to jazz it up with modern day
music and you're like, yeah, this doesn't fit very well.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So Stephanopinopolis. Whatever George that George Stephanopolis, he says. One
to spell. Yes, he says, I believe if you if
you're a Greek and your last name ends in the
in the ulos uh suffix, that means you come from
the Peloponnese. Is that right. We've got Greek listeners. They'll
tell me this. So that's why. And anybody whose name
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ends in Ulos you don't need to know this anyway.
Back to George Clooney, Mister George Clooney, very famous for
the movies he has been over the years. I'm gonna
say something too. I think he's kind of overrated. You're
probably a big Clooney guy, but I think he's kind
of overrated. If I have to pick, i'd go Brad Pitt.
Better body of work. I even think a better actor.
So Clay and Buck fighting over Oh man.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm just going the Brad Pitt pit. Super accomplished. I mean,
I thought you were gonna say like someone who was
less accomplished would be more challenging.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But I would agree with you on Brad.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think Brad Pitt's one of the five most successful
actors of his generation. And again depending on defining generation.
But uh, Brad Pitt is really really good. Another guy
like we talked about yesterday, Tom Cruise Denzel tends to
be Brad Pitt. They just don't make very many bad movies.
There are some, I know because you guys are gonna
blow me up with them, but in general, those guys
have pretty good choices in terms of the movies they make.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Clooney's made a bunch of clunkers. Yes, he's mad really fast.
So I think in Pitt v. Clooney, I think that
Pitt is the better actor. And they were weren't there both
in Ocean's eleven or anyway? The point here about the politics.
I did enjoy Ocean's eleven. I'll say I didn't see
the goodness. Yeah, Ocean's eleven is a good film. If
I have to the best Brad Pitt movie seven, it's seven.
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I mean it's dark, but is an incredible movie. I
think the best Brad Pitt movie is seven. For me,
I'd have to say, Uh, I probably go Troy because
I like all that historical epics stuff that's super homo erotic.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like again, settle down, don't I don't want to cast
dispersions on Achilles, and as Seinfeld said, not that there's
anything wrong with it, but I think Brad Pitt's Achilles
is super gay in in Troy Well Clay.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't know if you know, but the ancient Greeks
they did.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They were a little bit different the original aw I know,
show the male Pig.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know, they did things a little different. You know,
they had the Olympics naked. They had a lot of
things going on naked. Anyway, that was a long time ago,
you know, a couple of thousand years. Wrestling tough to
do and not be gay.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I would just suggest, I would just suggest this is
like if you get you get athletes.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You get athletes, and you want to get them. Really laughing.
This is true. This is uh, this is true for
all of you.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The toughest thing for an athlete to do, pro athlete,
college athlete, full grown men.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Shower fights.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Guys on teams get in fights all the It happens
all the time every league. They get in fights, and
people who cover in the media have seen them shower fights.
How do you break up a shower fight? Guys are
like on a football field, We'll break it up on
a basketball court. Two guys are slipping, sliding around, fully naked,
throwing haymakers at each other. One of them has to
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get knocked out before the fight ends. Nobody wants to
break it up. Lessons from Clay from.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The world of sports for all of you. I'm gonna
take us back to the presidential contest now everybody. So
I was gonna say the best Clooney movie. I can't
even think of what the best Clooning movie. He probably
Ocean's eleven so we have because his batman was not good.
George Clooney, who is If you're looking for the quintessential democrat, elitist,
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Hollywood celebrity, he's certainly in the conversation. You know, he's
incredibly wealthy, got the wife who does all the international
cause stuff. And you know, Clooney is, you know, like
private jets, show up at Davo, show up at the
climate change conference, kind of a guy. And he's written
in the New York Times that they need a new nominee.
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The headline here is George Clooney, I love Biden, but
we do need a new nominee. And he says all
these nice things about him, and you know, here, here's
the first reaction that I have to this, Clay all
of this, this is the unspoken part of it, right,
But let me just also say, Joe Biden does not
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give a bleep about what George Clooney says are right, So, okay,
could care. George Clooney just raised thirty million dollars for
him in a Hollywood fundraiser recently three weeks ago, three
weeks ago. So this is what I keep saying. These people, Oh, George,
you know, we're a a Joe has to step down.
They're raising money for Joe. Handover fist. Okay, the part
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of this, I don't know what your biggest reaction, initial
reaction this. And by the way, the op edit's very
since Joe's great, but we have a great bench and
it's time for people to step up. But nobody can
outrun father time. And you know whatever, it's the very
like nothing interesting. The fact that Kamala Harris is not
just the assumed air in all these pieces is such
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a slap in the face. She's the vice president. The
current president has dementia. She should be the one. The
problem here is that they can't even get unity in
the party on that move because Kamala is such a disaster.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You and I have said this on this program. Trump
said it yesterday at his rally in South Florida. He said,
give Biden credit. The one thing he did was pick
the only person more incompetent than him to be his
vice president. So they're not trying to elevate her. To me,
the clooney takeaway that is most important here is is
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this couple of sentences. It's devastating to say it, but
the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at
the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal Biden
of twenty ten. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of
twenty twenty. He was the same man we all witnessed
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at the debate. So all these arguments what the Biden
people have been trying to say, and I know you
went her back to this, but yeah, they try to
say bad night. Now they're coming out and saying, actually,
you know what, that's who he is, and this ties
in because he's losing. That's why they're doing it. It's
not about the debate, it's that they are losing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
If he were that's a huge they would all shut
up that's that's a huge take This is when This
is why I've said all along that they would vote
for him if he came out with a blanket over
his knees. The only reason you're seeing this make believe
surge of honesty from Democrats about Biden is that all
the polls show him getting absolutely destroyed right now. I
mean the polls right now are in Landslide territory right
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Just to be clear, what happened in twenty twenty two
is in a lot of close races, the Republicans were ahead.
They weren't ahead by massive, massive numbers, but they were ahead.
But Democrats closed the gap, and sure enough, we didn't
get the votes where we needed them how we needed them.
This is different. This is a presidential poll or presidential
polling consistent for months, the trend only going in one direction,
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all saying the same thing, all with the same key takeaway,
and that right now from an electoral college standpoint, it
would be one of the biggest ass kickings we have
seen in a long time in a presidential election. That's
why George Clooney is writing this. That's why all this
is happening. That's the funny part about this too. Is
They're like, I have to speak truth to power now.
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It's like, no, you're just desperate because your guy is
about to get just waxed.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Gonna get at what That's what the underlying story is here.
That's why all of this is happening. Laura Travis, by
the way, has weight in. She says, Brad Pitt's best
movie by far as fight Club. So for some of you,
that was my second choice. To be fair, that was
my number. I was gonna go number two on that one.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But that's fair. She's wrong. I mean it's seven, but
but I wanted to that is that is that.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's a very dark movie. I mean it's sad, but
it's an incredible film.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean it's good, but it's like a horror movie.
I don't know, I can't get I'd take a definitely
fight Club over seven. Fight Club is not exactly a
super lighthearted movie either. It's pretty dark. Yeah, but there's
a message to it, you know what I mean, there's
a message to it. You know, office space, no one
talks about fight Club. Ali says snatch, she's just off
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the reservation. I mean, come on, I mean, come on,
if you want to step up what brought on?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And Jordan and Allly just came in with John Stockton.
Got to keep John Stockton in mind. I mean, come on,
let's get John his due respect.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okayat a great player in his day.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He's the greatest baseball player of all time. I think
you really have to think about Kim kammanatty. I think
that's a if you're a Houston person, you're gonna be
laughing about that. Sorry, maybe Kim Cambanaddy's driving along, He's like, man,
what happened there? It's Babe Ruth, It's Willie Mays, Kim Kviet.
I mean, come on, fight club, it's definitely seven. But
that's at least an argument.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Legends of the Fall was a good movie for what
it was accept except Brad Pitt did not age at all,
and everyone else turned into like a senior citizen in
that movie. Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He also married the eight year old girl from that movie,
which is kind of a little bit creepy.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Remember that the one obviously had grown up up. He
didn't marry or when she was eight.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But I think it's like, you know, that's that Jeopardy
skit they do where it's like meet your Second Wife,
and have you seen that's actually a really funny I
have seen that. That's a Saturday at Live skit. Sorry,
it's like meet your second Wife. Anyway, it's a really
funny skit. I think, like for the women out there
that are watching it, like Brad Pitt's like twenty five
or thirty and there's this like eight year old girl
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and then he ends up with her, it's kind of like,
I don't know that that's the love story. I would
want to, you know, kind of focus on.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Also, every girl about my age, for some reason, loves, uh,
Meet Joe Black. This is very they love the Meet
Joe Black movie. I've heard seen it.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, I've seen it. I think I think it's a
it's not in the in the running.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, it's not on the running. I'm just saying this
is an another no.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
No, I think you're right. I think a lot of
women love Meet Joe Black. I was going to say,
isn't clue, isn't Brad Pitt? Also, and a river runs
through it. Now he's not the star like this was
before he was a superstar. I think he's the he's
the supporting Uh, he's the brother the other brother. Yes,
my dad loves fly fishing, so I had to sit
through that movie.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
There's a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I actually think that's a really good movie. Norman McLean
novel A River Runs through It that it was based on,
also incredibly well done.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, if you like watching guys in beautiful rivers
in Montana fly fishing, you will like that movie. If
that does not excite you, you probably should watch Snatch
and hang out on Team Alley on that one.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I will say Brad Pitt and Moneyball is really good,
but you have to be a sports fan. I don't
know that you would like Moneyball if you're not a
sports fan. When he plays the.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Billy and he has a pretty he's got a pretty
minor part in that movie. I don't think Joe that's
not a Brad Way is better. Oh I'm sorry. No,
he has a big one of Moneyball. I was thinking
of the Big Short. He has a smaller one of
the Big Short. Money's y. Yeah, Moneyball is good.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean Brad Pitt is very good in it, and
he does play Billy Bean very well. But I think
Jonah Hill is actually kind of the Steeler Jordan George Creeney.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Writes this this op ed just to bring this back
for a second here and always like this is the thing.
I All I care about with these people are the
movies that they make. I don't care about their political opinions.
I don't think they are wise. I don't think they
are smart. It's hilarious to me that The New York
Times is like, you know what we're gonna do. We're
gonna leverage the political power of George.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Cloty Sundays with Clay and Bus.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Just came from downstairs where my wife had made a
smoothie for me, and said, you're totally wrong about the
brad Pitt movies. But as bad as your argument is,
Buck's attempt to argue that the Troy movie is one
of brad Pitt's best is maybe his worst movie take
of all time. So, Laura Travis just off the top
of rope during the commercial break there, I have to say,
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super homo erotic, not particularly well done.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Buck loves it. I don't know what to say. I mean,
if you look at the receipts my man Troy, and
I mean the actual receipts, Troy I think did almost
a billion dollars globally, So somebody liked it, just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know what the total revenue was. I just
think it pales in comparison to seven. All right, speaking
of horror films, snuff film.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm sorry, five hundred million US dollars, Troy, and I'll
tell you what did the movie seven made? But go ahead,
oh well seven.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I mean, great forms of art aren't always going to
be reflected in the box office, right, I mean, let's
let's be honest. I mean, I bet Citizen Kane, I
bet Citizen Kane didn't.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Just let me give you the numbers because you you've
just done all this prefacing. Seven actually made three hundred
and thirty million dollars worldwide on a budget of thirty million,
So seven was a massive monetary success. I did not
know that.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Also, horror movies in general, I think have trouble getting
because R rated movies are going to have more difficulty.
I'm sure seven was R rated movies, not horror movies.
Do horror movies, I think dollars in dollars out are
the most loop profits profit, but they try to keep
it out of the R rating because once you go
into the R you lose the teenagers to a large extent,
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who will go and see these horror movies over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But would you have rules for your boys? By the way,
I always wonder about this now, Like I saw a
kind of R rated movie back in the day, from
It's thirteen on. I was seeing every Stallone, every Schwarzenegger,
all those you know, so a lot of violence.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well so what was your So my mom and dad's
rule was, And a lot of people are gonna say
this is crazy. Now, they were totally fine with as
much violence as possible, but they were not okay with
like sex movies. Right, Like, so I could go see
like one hundred people get murdered in like a Stallone
movie or shot up or whatever, but the idea of
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going to see like Basic Instinct would have been just
like I was not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
See Basic Instinct, for example, that was that was a no,
but a Terminator was a yes. But there's no there's
no you know, there's no boobs and Terminator.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, And I I think I kind of agree with
that now having my own boys. First of all, they
have access to every movie ever made in the history
of mankind, So it isn't the same like when you
and I were young, you went to the movie theater,
you had to buy a ticket. The person who sold
you the ticket could look at you and be like, oh,
you're nowhere near eighteen.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Were you ever turned away from a ratedar movie? Yeah?
I was once in my life, and it was actually
there's something about Mary interesting a comedy.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yes, they don't really make that many R rated comedies anymore,
the same way they don't they try to avoid.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
It for the horror.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But sometimes we would have to have our parents go
and buy the tickets.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's because I didn't have ideas I'd never brought I
think I actually I think I was eighteen or nineteen
that I forget when the movie came out. But I
didn't have id on me. And they're like, you might
you must be eighteen, and they oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, I think it was when I was like thirteen
or fourteen, and you'd have to have your parents sometimes
buy you like the Sylvester still Oan movie or the
whatever the shoot Them Up movie was that everybody was
going to see. Uh, I was saying in an incredible
transition speaking of horror movies.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
A moment ago.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
The Biden campaign has descended into its own form of horror.
Some might call it a snuff film. You mentioned this,
and I thought it was interesting. Trump at his rally
yesterday super fantastic at draw one credit one correction from me.
I'm not infallible. I was told that Tua Tagovai Loa
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was going to be at the rally. I tweeted it out.
I was told by someone that I trusted that he
would be there. He was not there. I would like
to apologize to Miami Dolphin fans everywhere, to Tua, I
didn't know who that was. Yeah, to the entire dolphin
universe out there. I know you've been trying to find
a quarterback to replace Dan Marino for thirty five years now,
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and maybe tuas the guy, and you might have been
thinking to yourself. I didn't have my I had my doubts.
But then I heard Tua from Clay Travis was going
to be at the front row at the Trump rally
at Darrel. I whiffed, that's on.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Me Sunday drap with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know if you even saw this, Clay, but
when it comes to barbecue cookouts, whatever one in doubt,
you're the grocery stores, get some sausage. It's the universal,
the constant goes with everything. All of them taste good.
You can't overcook it. You can't really even undercook it
because they're usually pre cooked. And you know, whether you're
going for a hot and spicy Italian Cherisa, whatever, sausage,
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always it always gets eaten. Right. People, I've been through
this a million times, whether I'm with friends or family.
They're like, I don't know, do we need that sausage.
The answers yes. The answer is always yes. You're probably
not even a sausage guy. You're very healthy. I'm very healthy.
I mean my wife just drove off the road if
she heard that. No.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Look, I I was more focused on the fireworks. We
had double firework displays to take the boys too.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I didn't cook at all. We were down in Florida.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I don't cook well to begin with, but we did
have some good patriotic American eats, whether it's hot dogs,
whether it's sausages, whether it's hamburgers, and they were not
cooked to like Chuck Schumer tried to cook his hamburgers.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
If you remember his first step on the grill. And
can I also just throw out there. I'm not trying
to jump ahead of things, but you have some very
We're gonna get in all the news the day in
a second, I promise you the big stuff from this morning.
I was watching Morning Joe Biden says he's staying in
now the white House logs have shown, thanks for our
friend Alex Bearnson, that there was a Parkinson's expert visiting
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many times in the last year the Biden Whitehouse. But Clay,
you have a new friend. We do we have.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
The Travis family has added a puppy. I am one
of the relative of your puppy. I guess your dog
is not really a puppy anymore, but ginger same group
of individuals Australian Labordoodle. There is a picture if you
are Clay's dog, is my dog's step brother. Just to
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be clear here actual step brother. They have the same
dad from the same breeder.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Half brother. Well, I'm sorry, half brother. Yes, the dogs
are just like the movie so much the dog. The
dogs are not divorced.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I the if you need a cute explosion, because you
are just like man. There's so much negativity out there.
There is a picture of my recently graduated third grader,
he would say that he is now a fourth grader.
My nine year old holding this puppy that I believe
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is up at clayanbuck dot com if you just want
to see a joyful picture. It is my nine year
old holding this six week old puppy, and he is ecstatic.
The family is ecstatic. So we have a new puppy
in the Travis household that has been very well received,
and I think that many people could use something very
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happy given all the chaos that's going on on a
day to day.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Basis coutness level ten out of ten. All right, let's
take you back to where we are here with the
dog's name you want to tell everybody or No.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Seven, seven is the dog's name, not just for Mickey Mantle,
which obviously was I think that on Seinfeld it is.
We're basically saying, this is my parents' seventh grandchild. So
my mom and dad. Mom's about to turn eighty next week,
she is going to have we think a new grandchild
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here seven, so it would be the seventh grandchild. Six
five boys and one one granddaughter, five granddaughters, five grandsons,
one granddaughter from my parents. And so now they have
a puppy, so we're calling him seven, So that is
seven has arrived in the Travis household and he has
been very well received so far. He's incredibly cute and
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lots of fun.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's the best. Puppies are the best.