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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing
Buck podcast, it starts now, all.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Right, Buck, I wanted to hit you with this. This
is fun to close out shop today. There is a
list of male hobbies that drive women crazy. I thought
this was fun. And you have been single for longer
than me, so I was. You're now married to Carrie,
who is lovely, but you were single for a long time,
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on and off for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Man, I was out there in the front lines, in
the trenches. We lost a lot of good bachelors out there.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Man, it was crazy. All right.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What do you think, according to this survey, are the
least attractive hobbies for men to have? Legal? By the way,
legal hobbies for men to have according to women, what
do you think is number one?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I mean, it's probably leaving the toilet set up and
lady just need to get a grip.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Okay, we like it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's not a hobby, that's just an act. This is
something that men do in their free time that women
find to be the least attractive things.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Then, okay, I'm sorry. I thought I was thinking habit,
not hobby. Okay, okay, least attractive hobby doesn't even have
hobbies anymore. I don't know, probably like medieval nights, costume
play in the park or something.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm surprised you didn't get this one. Number one video games.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Video games, Ah, get out the number one least attractive
hobby that a man can have, according to a woman,
playing video games.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Say Elon Musk.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Elon Musk plays video games, and he's the richest man
on the planet.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
He's changing the world. Elon, thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You have made it okay for all of us dudes
in our forties, fifties, sixties to play a little bit
of Fifa on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I will say it's probably highly unlikely that any woman
has ever walked through a room seen her man with
a video remote controller playing a videvideo game Madden, Fifa,
whatever you want to play, and thought, I've got to
sleep with this guy right now.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
There are there are Now I know this might just
be a marketing ploy, but there are like gamer babes,
you know, who do reviews of video games and play
video games that are competitive video gamers, and they're meant
to be very attractive.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You think that just gets all the herd.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's a gimmick. I think that get all the nerds.
The dream of a nerd is this girl is so
hot and she plays Call of Duty all day long
and underwear. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Reminds me of you know, I used to read Maxim
magazine as a young lad in the nineties, and I
remember Maxim magazine that always have these these like pin
up models or whatever. Who are you know, just just
beautiful looking and and and then they'd always say like,
I just want a guy with a dadbod who drinks
beer and watches the game on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm like, wait, weren't you just dating like the quarterback
of like the you know, the Cowboys or something.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't think you want that, but they would say that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Here are some others bucks. So, playing video games the
number one least attractive hobby for men according to women,
collecting figurines.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That is way worse than playing video games. I agree
this list is nonsense.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I feel bad for some of the guys that are
listening right now that do this stuff. Magic tricks number
three overall, poor guy out there just working on his
card game, thinking he's gonna end up with a supermodel.
He's just like looking down at his card deck crying
right now. Online trolling, I don't hobby.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
That's not a hobby, that's that's a psychopathy.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, gambling, okay, like I can kind of see that,
although I love sports gambling. Here's another couple buck that.
I think you're just gonna feel bad for guys building
model trains. You're just sitting around out there in your
little conductor hat trying to build your model trains. Women,
you're a little listed here.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
We got a couple of model train enthusiasts listen to
the show right now, and they just got taken out.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Man, they just got hit by the train car. They
didn't even see coming.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Tax and der me. Kind of a weird hobby, I
will admit. Uh, Comic book collecting and bird watching. These
are the least attractive hobbies. Four men according.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Bird watching is totally respectable. That's that's that's nonsense. Bird watching.
There's nothing wrong with bird watching. I throw a flag out.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Women think that it's sexy, like you're walking around with
just some binoculars in the woods, like at all know
you're not doing anything, You're just trying to see something.
It's kind of a weird thing to do.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
One sexy nature. We gotta get back to this. Go
kill grizzly bears instead.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Sunday, Hang with Buck.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
They're probably gonna have on John Meacham, and they love
to do on that show, particularly on MSNBC, to bring
on the presidential historian, as if that's I don't I
don't in presidential story. I don't care like so you
you spend a lot of time in the archives about
some guy who's president two hundred years ago, and now
I'm supposed to be like, oh well, what whoever you
say about the you know, carried interest tax loophole, like
(05:03):
it's ridiculous. But Biden clung to power with all the
ferocity of his bony old fingers.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, and we all saw it over and over again.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm the nominee. I'm the nominee. That's nonsense. That's nonsense.
George Washington, George Washington, you know, made the decision to
step down.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
It wasn't like he was telling everybody vote for me.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'm the only future of the country for months and
then he was like, psych, I'm stepping down. So I'm
just saying, yes, you're right. They will try this. But
on its face, this is a laughable narrative. Biden is
kicked off, that they shoved him aside, and it was
not a decision that he made any interest of anybody
other than the Biden families' finances going forward.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Also as somebody who majored in history, and there's a
different multiverse out there where I went and got a
PhD in history, and I'm sitting around in some university
still teaching history, like there is a world where that
could have happened. I love history, historians are not very
useful diagnosing real time issues in how they're going to
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play in the historical context. And any of you out
there that love reading history, like Buck and I both,
do you recognize that people still argue sometimes for hundreds
even thousands of years over whether a general made a
right decision at a battle, over whether a leader made
the right choice, and even things that we now consider
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to be completely decided are sometimes takes decades, fifty sixty,
eighty years for that to be the case. Good, good example,
most people now would say, yeah, FDR shouldn't have put
Japanese people in internment camps during World War Two.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I think everyone says that. I don't think most people
say that yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
There's very few. There's probably a few people out there
there like that was the strongest move FDR ever made
in real time. Buck a historian certainly would have come
out and said, this is in no way an irrational
move by FDR because, for instance, again history nerd here,
Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus during the
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Civil War, he could just throw anybody that he wanted
in prison without needing to bring them in front of
the h in front of a judge, and in retrospect,
because Lincoln won the Civil War, almost no one talks
about that. But I guarantee you that they had radio
shows talking about current events back in the day, they
would have brought on some Civil War historian and he
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would have said, well, this is one hundred percent defensible
by FDR because look at what Lincoln did rid of
habeas corpus, wartime changes the law, look my reality on
it is. Oftentimes what a historian would say is totally
wrong when other historians analyze the legacy of history and
so these days gonna be propery for current events, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
The big album for some of these historians is, I mean,
what was Lincoln's policy on on trans bathroom usage. I mean,
there's just not enough of a you know. That's that's
really what the historians are today. They're like, I mean,
would Abraham Lincoln obviously have supported biological men competing in
women's sports in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
We don't know what honesty would have said.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Would Abraham Lincoln even buck have been a man if
he were alive today, he might have decided to identify
as a woman in honesty.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Could have been the first woman president. I know, but
that that this is the stuff that history. Most historians
today spend their time on nonsense like this. I'll just
tell you they spend their time on what is it
historiography and uh and uh.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I'm trying to think of the phrase that they used
for when.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
They historiography by itself is such a nerdy word. I
bet five percent of our audience knows that. But anybody
who studies history. I did my thesis on the burning
of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania Buck, which was the only time the
Confederacy South burned down a Union a northern city, and
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I analyzed the this is you want to talk about nerds?
I analyzed the voting data from eighteen sixty in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania,
and compared it with eighteen sixty four to try to
determine whether if the South had adopted more of a
total war mindset, much like Sherman on his March to
the Sea, would that have potentially altered the outcome of
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the eighteen sixty four presidential election. That was my thesis.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So I'm a nurse on history. That sounds pretty good.
I actually would read it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I got to dig that, you know what I found.
It would have changed the outcome of the eighteen sixty
four election. If Robert E. Lee, during the invasion of
Gettysburg had been willing to burn down northern cities and
actually bring total war to the North, Lincoln would have
lost in sixty four. He didn't do it. Only city
to ever be burned Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, by Jewbil early on
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his raid in eighteen sixty four. A little bit of
nerd him there for.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I six months out picked him to be the VP.
You know what I mean? So uh he thanks to JD.
I got a steak.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Actually, I think I got like, should we tell everybody
honestly Clay took us to a fancy place and I
traded in my steak for gluten free soft shell crab
because I had never been able to find that in
a restaurant before, and we were at a place where
the chef agreed to make it. So thank you for
my gluten free softshell crab.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Was It was a great restaurant in Milwaukee that we
went to, and we had a couple of our staff
with us, so I picked up the tab there. I
think I'm gonna be down in South Florida in September,
so I've already got the spot picked out. You are
a steakhouse. Oh yeah, Oh this steakhouse, my friend. It
is a scene and a half. You're gonna you're getting
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your You're getting your bets worth. I can assure you
on that one. I think we still have two outstanding
that I never have officially signed up for or against
after KAMALAA got replaced Biden.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
That goes two ways, like I need to you know
or so are you? Do you want to? What are
the wagers?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
What would the percentage of the black mail vote be
for for Trump? You think he gets twenty five percent?
That's what I said when he was going against Biden.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Are you are you doubling down on this one or
you I have to allow you to walk away because
it's a different fighter now in the ring.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I am going to I'm going to double down on WHOA.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Okay, I'm not as confident to take the other side
of this one. We'll make this a stake in twenty
twenty five to spread these out. I'll take I don't
think Trump gets twenty five percent of the black mail vote.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I'm not as confident now as I was obviously when
he was going against Joe Biden. But I think there
is going to be a tremendous gender divide in this election.
I think Republicans in general have become the party of
men and Democrats have become the party of women. And
I think Trump is going to win men by double
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digits overall, like fifty five forty five or more. And
I think RFK Junior actually makes that more likely. I
was more confident in the twenty five percent of men
when it's Trump Biden.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, okay, so that that can we can we table
for one second to second? Bet, so you're you're in
on the on the twenty five percent of black men.
Black men are taking the action on the other side
of this one. I can already taste the Bernez.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Now the other one though.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
The other thing I wanted to note is that you're
saying there's gonna be a big gender divide here Clay
Dana bash Donald, however, I never get her name right.
The bas dan Anna bash Over at CNN kind of
said that.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, I was like, is she really going to
go there? She's going there.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We're saying, you know, I make jokes about like the
the soy latte drinkers at the d n C, and
these guys who you know, are are are very comfortable
when their wives bring over their their boyfriends, and you know,
like I get it, like there's a lot of you know,
a lot of sort of of wimpy guy stuff going
on at the DNC, And here she is saying that
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kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
She's basically like, it's okay to be like low te guy.
Play this clip.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
They are doing so in trying to put forward male figures,
Tim Walls being one of them, Doug m Hoff last night,
who can speak to men out there who might not
be the sort of testosterone Leyden, you know, a gun
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toting kind of guy who wants to listen to Paul
Cogan and the kind of players that came out at
the RNC or might want to listen to that. But also,
in addition, understand that it's okay in twenty twenty four
to be a man comfortable in his own skin who.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Supports a woman.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Okay with Clay got it, it's a little bit. It's
a little bit, like she said, yeah, I mean, we
just need the low t male feminist vote big and
I think that's what she's said.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
She's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't understand how any man can vote for the
Democrat Party. I'm just gonna say it, like, if you
are a heterosexual man, I don't understand how you can
vote for this party today. I don't I understand why
people do historically because they basically have picked a team
and they don't want to change. But if you are
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a man, they say so many things. I mean, just
listen to the speeches. They don't believe in the meritocracy,
they don't believe in capitalism, they don't believe in something simple,
which to me is very illustrative of this. They don't
even believe that women sports should be made up of women,
and they clearly are designing the entire party to appeal
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to single women based almost exclusively on abortion. I mean,
I don't know how many abortions they've given away at
the DNC this year, which is super weird, a on
a freakin' uh like a mobile van. But we know
they're giving away the sectory.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Of guys getting snipped. There are guys showing up.
Speaker 7 (15:11):
That's why it's totally fair for us to say, what
kind of soy boys are voting Democrat right now? What
is this you're gonna if you're gonna get snipped because
it's a long time medical decision. Okay, fine, I have
lots of my lots of guys who have done that
after they had their families whatever. But to be like, oh,
I'm at the DNC now it's time for me to
like affirm my belonging, Like what I look.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
There are lots of people that have had as many
kids as they want and they say I'm out.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, of course me.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I understand that when you go through having multiple kids,
maybe even one kid, depending on your life, a lot
of people are like, I don't have the time, the energy.
It takes a lot to raise kids. I understand it.
So I'm gonna tap out. I don't want to have
any more children. I've already had three, I've already had four,
I've already had two to one, whatever the number is
in your family, I understand it. But to be at
the DNC and be like, I can't think of anything
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better than to get my reproductive my my my ball snipped,
and I'm going to show up and then go cheer
for Kamala like it is a very anti masculine party.
And that doesn't even factor in buck the whole me
too thing, the fact that Kamala Harris tried to turn
Brett Kavanaugh into a serial gang rapist. I mean, this
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is this is a fundamentally inauthentic at anti masculine party.
So I don't understand how a reasonable man. This is
why last week, when I was off and I'm sitting
around thinking, I came back to I don't see how
in the world Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania middle class, blue collar,
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lower middle class voters mail in particular, how any of
them are voting for Nomla.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I'll tell you, Clay, that you're not the only one
that's taking the slings and arrows today that's being hit
with the incoming. You know, the howitzers are having their
say via our VIPs right now. I'm just taking incoming
left and right. Katie said as pretty sure gluten free
soft shell Crab describes every person at the DNC just
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saying wow, Katie.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Katie's basically saying you should have been high five and
Dana Bash during her low te im.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Like, I'm supposed to get snipped, dress up like an
abortion pill and go eat my gluten.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Free soft shell crab.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Harsh Way Marsh say, gluten free does not think like
badass like you'd like if you had to pick a
series of adjectives you didn't know who the guy was
right and you were just like, hey, you're gonna have
to have a fight, MMA style. If you could pick
gluten free as one of the adjectives, I think most
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guys would click that.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Novak Djokovic credits being gluten free with him being the
best tennis player of all time. Just throwing that out there,
mister sportsman. Well, some people would say it is tennis.
Oh my gosh, I mean I can not believe this.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's heavyweight community.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
And now that tennis playing community. This is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I like tennis. It's fun. I'm not sure that people
watch tennis and think, man, this is the most masculine
sport I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Wow, I don't I am, I'm wrong, am I Like,
you guys poke him on the Clinton stuff, and now
the flamethrower comes out.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Now it's he's not taking prisoners. Clay is out here
bayonetting survivors because you all lit him up over the
Clinton thing. This is how it goes.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying that, uh oh, look
at how hard he hit that tennis ball.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I don't know if you judged that so called out.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
That they're they're like Andre Agassi back in the day.
There have been hyper masculine guys that play tennis. But
I'm just not sure that everybody thinks it's a badass
thing to play, right, Like our buddy elects.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Out here by himself out. I don't even just trying
to think.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
If you like sports for masculinity, football would be number one.
Right team sports, I think football is clearly number one. Now,
boxing and UFC are different levels. Those are individual sports.
I would put tennis pretty far down the lists.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think tennis is all about mind and.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Below baseball, and I don't think a baseball is a high.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I disagree with that. I disagree with that. You you
can look like Homer Simpson and be a baseball player.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Right, but you could really get I mean, you have
to stand there and somebody's throwing a ball at you
one hundred miles an hour, like a hardball, not a
tennis ball. I think baseball is more masculine than tennis.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think if you asked a woman, hey, you have
to date a guy who played hockey, is like the
hockey guy's probably blowing me up right now. Hockey is
off the charts. Those guys just get teeth knocked out.
Like I wouldn't play. I wouldn't play hockey. I'm too
much of a wo's to play hockey. When I saw
buck that people get teeth knocked out and they just
go right back in the game. If I lost a
tooth in a sport, I would be like, I've never played.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
This is like when people try to recruit me for
college rugby. I would always see these guys and I'm like,
you look like a filthy, homeless person, and you're bleeding
out of three three places right now.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Like, I don't think I want to play your rugby.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's not my sport. I'm not claiming that I'm the
most masculine guy out there. Again, I've seen these hockey guys.
They get like twenty stitches in their in their gum
after they took a up. Did you hate did you hit.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Your ten reps at one eighty five? By the way,
is there video Wednesday? I'm gonna take video next week.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I didn't realize this that puts me in the top
point one percent of strongest men. If you can, I
didn't you know only one in one thousand men can
bench press two hundred and twenty five pounds. Yeah yeah,
I did one in a thousand and and if you
can do ten, I mean obviously I can do two
twenty five. But I'm gonna on Wednesday post the video
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of forty five year old me from an elite athlete,
just rerapping out ten on one. I just respected trying
to get more Midwestern soccer moms listened to our radio
show by posting the video of you doing ten reps
with one eighty five.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
You know what I mean Clay Trump bringing in the ladies.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Grandma's out there love me. I don't base is a
true story in Tennessee, in Clay's hometown. He said, Grandma's
love me, and I'm not kidding. Within three seconds, a
grandma came up, hugged him and kissed him on the cheek.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Was like, I love you, Clay Trumps and I was like,
this is too weird. I don't know how that happened.
He just made her appear.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I will say this, I am the only person that
has managed to combine frat guys and grandma's as the
base of their fandom.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
I'm going to tell you a true story.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
When Clay took me to my first SEC football game
and we walked through frat row. All these frat bros
with their blue blazers and their flip flow were offering
us this beverage that was very sweet, and I had
a few of and got a little silly. It got
a little silly. What I did not have were sorority
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girls running over saying I love your radio show. A
lot of fraternity brothers running over saying they love the
radio show. But you want to talk about a gender
separation like this election. Sorority girls nothing to do with
the Clay and Buck show, So I mean fraternity bros
all in.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I'm about to go on the road for college football.
I'm going to lead the nation in pretty girls taking
photos of me with their boyfriends and their husbands and
having no earthly idea who I am. It really is extraordinary.
Their husbands, the fraternity guys, they all want to picture.
The girls don't even know how to take, like they're
used to being the Instagram girlfriend who gets her picture taken.
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They've never even seen their boyfriends and their husbands ask
for a photo before. I will skip the open lines too,
if we have a single active sorority sister listening to
the show right now. And I will also skip any
of the frat bros, especially if they love SEC football,
because we could do the rest of the show with
those calls, but we would have crickets on the soroty.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
So anyway, gender divide is a real thing.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
By the way, tennis players, it's at Clay Travis on Twitter, Okay, just.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Saying relative to other athletes, you aren't particularly masculine.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I just I think this is nonsense. I'm as Clay
stands alone on this one. Next thing, you know, he's
going to be throwing piccolo players under the bus. It's
just outrageous what's going on today.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They are more masculine than flute players by far. Dennis
Guys