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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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go subscribe. I saw this buck. We were talking about a
little bit off air. Connor McGregor UFC fighter extraordinaire. Many
of you Connor McGregor fans, or you have watched him fight.
He has announced that he is running for the presidency
of Ireland. I don't know how much money Connor McGregor
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has now. I know he started a whiskey that has
just blown up. But can did you expect when you
had watched Connor McGregor fight before the UFC, Hey, this
guy's gonna end up running for president of Ireland. Do
you have any sense for how popular he? I know
he's wildly popular and Ireland.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Could he win?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I think he'd be a mighty fine president. I think
you do a great job over there in Ireland needs
help man. Ireland And it's one of these things apparently
the Irish. You know, we had someone from the UK
just right in as one of our VIPs. We got
UK listeners, but you know, Ireland we got some. I'm
I'm mostly Irish by by background, I think by your
too right, I mean we're basically both Scott's.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I almost yeah, British like all the you know, I was.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I was a little fancy.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I was kind of also a little bit of the
Northern France component, a little disappointed when I did my
DNA analysis. I was hoping for some exciting, unexpected outcomes
and it was like, no, pretty much all of your
background is from Ireland.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
And UH and England and UH in Northern France.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
But Ireland a great country that's produced so much, so
many amazing expats, and such a big role in America. Unfortunately,
it's like the Cuba of of West in Europe. I mean,
even by European standards, it's very left wing. So I
think it would be great if you could get somebody
with a little dough so sanity over there, it'd be fantastic.
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I mean, Connor McGregor might be a total maniac. I
don't really know much about him than he's a fighter,
and he's pretty, he's pretty entertaining.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
He's got a lot of tattoos. That's all that I know.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
But I do know that he's talking about helping the family,
helping the working man get the hands of the state
out of his pocket, and you know, intact families, things
like that Yeah, that sounds that sounds good to me.
Communism is not the answer, which unfortunately is what Europe
is going to find out sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, and this is a big deal. It's not even
just communists, it's the unrestrained immigration that they have allowed
to take place in much of Europe. We have at
least the concept of a melting pot here where over
time we have taken so many people from so many
different backgrounds that there is an element to being able
to handle more immigration here than other countries. But when
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you look at what's going on in Italy, when you
look at what's going on in Germany, in France and
England than in Ireland, there is a great uprising of
people saying, wait a minute, we are bringing in a
lot of people that do not embrace the culture that
this country has existed and been founded on for hundreds
or thousands of years. And I think Connor McGregor is
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a representative sample of that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He is fired up.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't know how big of a supportive base he
has in Ireland, but I know that people travel like
crazy to watch him fight. I would think that he
is a very viable candidate in the political atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Of Ireland, Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
This is a VIP email. I know people like to
go off with a little bit of a laugh. This
is a great email from Brian. I would like to
propose an idea. Brian says, no more steake bets. Instead,
let's do a bet where if Buck loses, he has
to do an entire hour of the show in full
Brian Stelter character, no breaking character.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I can do it shirtless, shirtless the whole time. Brian Stelter,
I'll wear a bald cap and I'll do it shirtless.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I would laugh so hard, crying tears of unmitigated glee
that I could and would have to call out sick
to work for by far my favorite voice.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Buck does love the show.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Thanks, guys like I don't dislike you want to do
drink bets now because I'm gonna have to pay so
much for my stake down in Miamia stell I can't
do voices, so I don't know what the counter would be,
but you having to do a full hour of the show,
as I don't think I.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Could keep it straight face. I think we'd have to
create a character for you. Since, like I know, you
put up a video of lifting.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Weights, we might have to create Clay bro where during
the show you're like doing those weights, but like the
little ones that the ladies do with the bike classes,
you know what I mean, and you do it on
the video or the.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Fake ones with like Clomo when he was like blaming
that he was curling like two hundred pounds. Remember in
his CNN office they had all those photos of him.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
But I think that, oh, it would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
We bring in our good friend Michael Berry, Houston based.
We appreciate all of you listening in Houston, massive audience
down there, and he's got some great news. You guys know,
I know many of you start off your day listening
to Premiere all day long. We appreciate those of you
who listened to us, who listened to Sean Hannity after us,
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Glenn Beck before us, Jesse Kelly despite the fact that
he has awful taste in pricey tequila or is maybe
really good taste as long as he doesn't have to
pay for it, and soon to be a part of
the overall Premiere Network group. Michael Berry, congratulations on the
news that you're going to be joining the team. Tell
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people out there who may want to know how to
listen and how that process will take place.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Thank you, Clay Well. It's a huge honor obviously to
get to join with you guys, because as most people know,
we happen to be friends off the air as well.
It's an incredible honor. It's the top syndicator. It's the
folks that brought people rushed, still bring Sean, Henny Glenn back.
It's you know, it's the big leagues, and so it's
what everybody wants to do. You're on the big Park,
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You're you're in the Big Park, You're on the big Mound,
You're You're, You're, You're there. It's exciting and then from
there you've got to be good at what you do.
So we'll be on after Jessic Kelly across the country.
So that process will take time as stations hopefully come on.
But as you know, the Premier team, Julie Talbot, Peter Trippy,
Craig Kitchen, all the folks that have provided these shows
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for all these years, and now you've got that horse
power behind you. I mean, that's I'm just I'm fired up.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, congratulations to the TSAR of Talk ritually deserved, and
we also appreciate you being a phenomenal lead in after
a dominating the airwave so many years in Houston. So
thank you for that, Michael, because we've been we've been
able to reach so many Houstonians as a result of
what a great station you got down there. I want
to ask you about where you think.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
We're surprised when you came to Houston and the welcome
you got from and y'all hadn't been on that long,
the welcome you got when we did our event, and
that was just a just that we were limited to capacity.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But you guys are amazing.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And I know you look at your ratings, but Eddie
Martinez will tell you guys are killing it here.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, thank you sir.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Know, we we were like, hey, who wants to come
hang out with us and Michael and Jesse Kelly And
they're like fifteen hundred people showed up to a barbecue.
We're like, okay, I think Houston is home territory. This
is great, but let's let's let's get into where we're
all going here, mister Barry, which is an election that
like every election is important and I know, but to me,
if we lose this one, it's too depressed to even contemplate.
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I do believe Donald Trump is going to win. Let's
focus in on the upcoming debate. Do you think it matters?
And how do you expect it to go?
Speaker 6 (09:04):
It scares me that the expectations are that Donald Trump
gives the most soaring speech in all of history, and
that Kamala Harris stumbles and falls on the ground and
and you know, spews venom because you know, expectations game
is what put George W. Bush ahead in every debate
because everyone thought he would he would screw it up,
and all he had to do was was have a
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pulse and he would have you know, he exceeded expectations.
It's like the stock market report. She has such low
expectations that I see her possibly exceeding those, and it's
too much pressure for Trump. He did so well against Biden,
and of course they're going to be skewed against him,
which is why. Of course Kamala didn't do that the
interview with Trump a few days ago. But look, when
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it comes down to policy, Trump knows it inside and
out and she doesn't and I think people people are
well aware of that. I like the direction Trump is going.
He's talking about the forgotten man. He's talking about issues
that outside of traditional political circles and outside of partisan folks.
He's talking about the inflation, he's talking about crime. He's
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talking about boys playing in girls sports and breaking their noses.
And that's where tampon Tim's weirdness comes out. I see
Trump getting back to the twenty sixteen that identified with
the low information voter, the a political voter, the RFK
coming in helps. I think the Trump campaign is doing well,
and yes, I'm worried about the debate because of the
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expectations game.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Michael, what don you tell us about the Cruise campaign
in Texas? Because as much attention as we can give
to the presidential situation, and certainly it matters a great deal,
Republicans are really poised to take back control of the
Senate too. Ted CRU's got a race, been under the
radar a little bit. You think he's in good spot
there in general, because other than Ted Cruz and Rick
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Scott in Florida, and I don't think those guys are
super targets. But that's really the only hope that Democrats
would have is that they could flip one of those seats.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Clay, I'm so glad you asked that, because I think
across the country, too many folks are going to vote
for Trump and walk out, and you've got to vote
all the way down the ballot. I think Ted Cruse
is slightly ahead at this point, and that's not a
sign of him not being popular. That's a sign of
a lot of Californians having moved to Texas, and a
lot of Californians in New York are spending a lot
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of money on the Democrat challenger to Ted Cruz. They
did this six years ago, they did it twelve years ago.
But Ted Cruz represents Texas in the United States Senate
very very well. And that matters to people whether you
live in Houston, Dallas, sent Anton Austin, or out in
West Texas as a rancher or farmer. He represents our
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values and that's important. That gets lost in the mix
of all this. You know, he goes into those Senate meetings,
those judiciary hearings, He goes into meetings with over the budget,
he goes into meetings over bad policy, and he absolutely
nails people to the wall, and that makes Texans proud
that he's a Texan. So I think he pulls it out.
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But it's a very very tough race here.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I was also thinking about as Michael, you're a guy
who doesn't doesn't like like a lot of people throw
a nonsense around. You see through it very quickly. Kamala
Harris is now apparently in favor of the wall. I mean,
I guess the wall wouldn't be that far from from
you with Texas, right, it would just be down there
on the border. What are we to make of this
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when she's stealing Trump ideas just so that she can
fool people, I guess, how does this work?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
But the amazing thing is I still think that that
illegal immigration and the border is the number one issue
in Texas because we bear the brunt of this problem,
as do people in Arizona to a lesser extent. But
I'll tell you it's now a nationwide problem, especially since
our governor very wisely started busting illegals, and just a
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few of our illegals landing in Denver and Chicago and
New York and they go run, and you remember what
happened to Marcus Vineyard. They had to take down there.
They're welcome to this. They don't want these people there
because it's really bad for them. I think that it
tells you that their polling numbers reveal that illegal immigration
is hurting her and hurting her badly, and so if
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she has to go back on everything she said before.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
She'll do it.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And that is a very telling fact. The American public.
Three quarters of the American public wants illegal immigration stopped.
In about seventy percent of them whant I'm deported, Michael.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I'm curious how much you hear this.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You mentioned it, the number of people that are moving
to Texas from blue states. This will be one of
the first cycles. I know you had twenty twenty two,
but the midterms aren't necessarily driving the same level of turnout.
What do you think that's going to look like from Texas?
And are you feeling like some are moving because they're
read voters or is there kind of a consistent concern
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in Texas that these What I hear a lot is
that basically these people are locusts. They destroy where they were,
for instance, California, and then they go somewhere new and
bring the same policies that they destroyed the state they
left behind to the new place.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
I think that's a very astute point that a lot
of people are not picking up on. You know, the
Californians that went to Oregon, they made Oregon more liberal
and ruined.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Part of it.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
The Californians that have gone to Colorado very liberal and
more fruits and nuts. The people that are coming to Texas,
the numbers, guys show me numbers that say, believe it
or not, the people who come here are red already
and making us more red. And I think you've seen
that in Florida, Buck, I think you've seen it in
Tennessee Clay, because it's people that are going there that
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want to be around like minded people, and so they're
fleeing the Californians and seeking a refuge as opposed to
being people that were blue that came for a job.
And my numbers show that you become more red as
a result of it.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I mean, Michael, the numbers in Florida, which I'm pretty
familiar with, speak directly to what you're saying, which is
it used to be a two hundred and fifty thousand
right before Ron DeSantis was sworn in two hundred and
fifty thousand Democrat registration advantage in the state. I think
it's now a Republican advantage of plus a million, which.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is amazing when you think about it, huge shift.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
So yeah, that is a santus.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there's it's been an amazing phenomenon here.
But you've got to keep Texas red or else the
whole country fall. So just get to work on that, Okay.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Well, and you got to keep Ted Cruz in the
Senate because Ted Cruz is a guy much like a
Rand Fall. There's a couple of guys in politics that
no one can replace them in the importance of how
they can get news into the cycle and how they
can move the news cycle and the political cycle forward,
and Cruise plays a key role in that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Absolutely well. Congrats again to our friend Michael Barry, the
czar of Talk on his national syndication by Premiere Networks.
And we got to come down to Houston and hang
out soon. Michael, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I would love that you guys have been very kind
to me and and along with our good friend Jesse Kelly,
I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Grass sir right back at you.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Congrats Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Tuesday, we've got the debate coming up, which which will
be fun. I it's funny people ask me like, do
you want to go to a debate watch party? I
get invites to debate watch parties and I always have
to find a polite way of saying no, because what
I don't want is to hear other people debating the
debaters around me, which there's always somebody who's.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Like, well, I would say blab blabity blah.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
It's like I actually want to hear what the vice
president and the former president have to say. So I
tend to watch in solitude with some sort of delicious
food in front of me. What about you, Clay, What's
what's the what's the Clay Debate watch pathway? I I'm
definitely watching by myself. Now my sixteen year old son
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has gotten interested in watching of late. My wife will
be walking through. There's always chaos when you got kids. Now,
this debate Central time will be eight o'clock, nine o'clock Eastern,
but the kids will be running around, There'll be chaos.
I'll be sitting with a notepad because like a nerd,
I have a yellow legal pad and I just jot
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down as it's going on.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh, this is what I thought of. This is, you know,
kind of what I thought was key issues.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'll also, I don't know if you'll do it, but
I'll jump in a little bit on social media and
I'll tweet some thoughts. But I try not to read
what anybody else says until after the debate because I
don't want to end up colored by what the consensus is.
I want to watch and try to make my own
decision as opposed to allowing myself to go down into
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the wormhole that is social media during the debates.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, I'll probably do a little live tweeting on X
and maybe a little truthing truth social is that what
they call it truthing as well. So, oh and just
a preview of next week, our friend I think Cash
Btow will be with us talk about the Russia Russia
Russia stuff. We'll get some Trump people on. I think
we're gonna have Lisa Booth on next week as well
to talk about Yeah, Monday, Oh, on Monday, there we
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go to talk about the debate. So we'll roll out
some of our our all stars, get Carol Markwitz in
the mix, here soon talk about what's going on. So
looking forward to it. But you know, Clay, there's a
part of me that is also my real feeling with
all this is, you know, let's go, like I've with
this has been building for a long time, and it's
like the final act of the movie that you're you
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want to see it, but you're like, it's time. This
has been in a long This has been a long
build up to get to this moment. And I think
it'll be a particularly interesting election cycle.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I mean last one was pretty crazy, but this one
could be an if you just think about what's happened.
We're sitting here on September sixth, if you just think
about what's happened since June twenty seventh. For people out
there who say, I mean, that's a little bit over
two months, right that we've had since June twenty seventh.
Biden effectively gets knocked out, someone tries to kill Trump.
On July thirteenth, July twenty first, Biden drops out. Kamala
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now has been in the race for about six weeks
and hasn't really talked to anybody, and I think this
may be the last and only face to face aspect
of being able to consider both Kamala and Trump. That
we will see, and it's just ninety minutes with a
couple of commercial breaks rolled in. My general expectation is
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that Kamala. You heard Michael Berry say that the expectations
for George W. Bush were always low. I think most
people expect Kamala to be pretty good in this debate.
In fact, if you look at the gambling market, she's
favored to win. Now, partly that's because inevitably every Democrat
they finish the race and then they put up a
poll from CNN an MSNBC and it shows that they won.
That's how bad Biden was that. The CNN was like, yeah,
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Trump won this debate. But if Trump just keeps it
between the lines and stays fairly committed to making his arguments,
I think it will be the last best chance for
Kamala to change the narrative. And I think after this
debate it will pivot to what does Kamala actually believe
as a couple of week storyline, and then many of
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you are going to be out there voting. We had
Marshall Blackburn on yesterday. She said, in my state, I'm
eligible to vote on October sixteenth. I'm going to go
in and vote on October sixteenth, and go ahead and
get my ballot cast. Many of you can vote earlier
than that, and we encourage you to go do it
and allow other people who are less likely voters to
be contacted and focused on, particularly in battleground states where
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it may come down to a few thousand votes and so.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
And you still believe right that that Kamala is leaving
open the possibility of more debates depending on how this
debate goes, right. I think if she has a strong performance,
she's done. She's like, I've done it, I'm done. I
think if she has a particularly weak performance, and I
think you see the same way right, then she might
just need another shot.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I think they'll wait and see what the numbers look
like internally right after they do the debate on September tenth,
and if they feel like they did well enough, they'll
hide her. If they feel like they're in trouble, they'll
start begging and demanding that there be another debate. And
I think Trump could be in a position where he
has to decide, hey, do I want to do another
debate or I feel like I've done enough. I think
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the more people see of Kamala, the less they like her.
I think they know Trump. I think the more of
Kamala the better, is my general consensus. But I'm not
sure that she'll debate more than this