December 29, 2024 • 21 mins
Clay vs. Buck on the great Harry Potter vs. Star Wars debate. Men are clueless about babies and weddings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
But I saw this in the cut sheet and I
thought we got to play this. Newt Gingrich was talking
about how indestructible Trump is. Did you see what the
analogy was that he used? Buck He said, Trump is
a mythic figure. This is maybe the nerdiest analogy of
all time from Newt Gingrich. Listen to cut twenty one.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Look, if you're a relatively sophisticated leader around the world,
and you watch nine years of the rise of Donald Trump,
and you watch two impeachments, and you watch all of
these efforts to catch him in the law, and you
watch two assassination attempts, and the guy just keeps coming.
(00:55):
As I said the other day, this is a mythic figure,
almost like the various Scandinavian BeO wolfs and other kind
of sagas. I mean, you can't there's no practical way
that you can explain Trump within a normal political structure, right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I need to know something I need to know something.
So who's Grendel in this analogy? If he's Beowolf? I mean,
is is it Adam Schiff? Is it Liz Cheney? Who
is Grendel the monster?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You went and proved my nerd argument by immediately getting
the Beowulf analogy?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
What percented that? New Gingrich? Obviously very bright guy.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
But when I heard that he compared Trump to Beowolf,
I just I had a flashback to ninth grade English
or whatever year it was that we read it, and
I'm just picturing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I love it? Can I say I love it?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Anytime somebody makes a literary reference that is not Harry.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Potter, I get excited. Okay, there are other literary you
have made. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That is an affirmative choice that I make to not
be part of the Harry Potter masses. All right, everything
is always Harry Potter all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Boo, it's like Fuldemort. Oh it's okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So, yes, I like the Beowolf nerd reference, mister Clay,
I will tell you I like mixing it up.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You also, when you are anti Harry Potter, are like
the guy or gal back in the day that refused
to watch Star Wars. You realize that, right, Like this
is like the modern day version of you being like,
who cares about lightsabers? That's stupid? Oh and you're gonna
go fly around in space? How come they don't ever
have gravity issues on the airplane?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Like this is you. You just are older, so you don't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Realize that's a little shit, that's a little shake. Harry
Potter's for like tweens, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I this is an outrage, Harry. Well, maybe it's a
younger generation, but you said is true. But no, no, no,
I but you you are like the old guy who
was coming after Star Wars. I'm saying if we had
been doing this show in like nineteen eighty six, you
would be like, oh, all you losers watching Star Wars? Oh,
(03:11):
return of the Jedi? Who cares about that at all?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean that probably would have been me in nineteen
eighty six. But nonetheless, my Harry Potter, I'm just an
I love the expansion of literary references beyond just one.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Just throw some C. S. Lewis in there.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just give me some other stuff, please, Somebody, If you
spend any of your time online, it's always Harry Potter
all the time. It's like the tyranny of Harry Potter.
It's like people who only tied with Hamilton on Broadway.
There are other Broadway shows.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I just am happy that anybody reads a book these days.
So if you're actually referencing a book at LEO, I
guess a lot of people are not even referencing the
book anymore. They just watch the movies, like my fourteen
year old. But but I do think that the Beowolf
reference is somewhat unique in that Trump is becoming a
(04:02):
mythical figure.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
One reason to go to your point about him undertaking
the actions that he has the moment, and I really
believe this is becoming truer and true every day, the
moment buck that he survived that assassination attempt and stood
up and pumped his fist and said fight three times.
You remember when Lincoln died and Stanton, they can fact
(04:27):
check me on this. I believe it was Edwin Stanton
said at the moment that Lincoln died, now he belongs
to the ages. Right after he was assassinated at Ford's Theater. Remember,
at the time, Abraham Lincoln was not that popular it's important.
If you study history, a lot of times the guys
that we believe are the greatest presidents ever in their
(04:50):
current existence, that is, when they were involved in politics
were ripped to shreds. A lot of people didn't like them.
Lincoln became a mythologic figure when he was assassinated at
Ford's Theater. This is me projecting history, which is always difficult,
but I think there is going to be in the
decades and the long run of history ahead, that moment
(05:15):
of Trump surviving the assassination attempt and rising and pumping
his fist and saying fight, fight, fight. It's an iconic
image to those of us that are alive today. I
think it's going to be even more iconic fifty years
from now.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And the point I believe where it comes into play
here is I think in winning the popular vote and
vanquishing all opposition against him, Trump is becoming harder and
harder to rip. Now he's got two years, because every
president in the final two years doesn't matter that much,
but what he can accomplish in these two years I
(05:54):
think has the potential to set us on the directory,
the direction, and the trajectory we need. To go for
the next fifteen or twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think one of the complicating factors for the Trump
opposition is they are facing for the first time a
Trump who only has the possibility.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of four years. You know what I mean? Yes, like
this is that?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I understand. You know, in twenty sixteen, the belief
was man Trump could be president for eight straight years,
and then going into twenty twenty, you know, they were
able to stop him and so he didn't actually come
into power. This time around, they're facing him for four years,
and I think it's meaningful for how they're trying to
align themselves in the opposition and why they look like
(06:36):
they're just scurrying all over the place of no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Look really deflated and defeated right now. They will bounce back.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't want to get into triumphalism here, trust me,
Kamala hate to say it, got a lot of votes
for the worst candidate we've ever seen in our lifetime. Okay,
just remember that, Yes, she got smoked by Trump, but
she's still got a lot of votes. So let's not
be too to patting ourselves on the back here. But
they they're going to be running against not Trump, and
(07:07):
they're going to be trying to take away you know,
the House and the Senate of the midterms in very
short order. So to turn everything into an anti Trump
argument doesn't really make sense, do you know what I mean?
They've never had to do this before, because twenty twenty,
it's obviously anything to defeat him. But now they want
to oppose him. But they're also going to have to run,
and they're going to have to run relatively soon. So
(07:30):
I think that they don't know what the party's supposed
to be, what their party's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you've never had Trump without having to think about
re election, and I think it's important, and you heard
him mention this in the birthright citizenship discussion. COVID took
a year away from him. I think he would have
done the birthright citizenship plan in twenty twenty, but in
February of his final year in office, suddenly COVID exploded
(07:57):
and became the story for the entire election calendar and
that whole year. What would have happened if COVID hadn't arrived.
I think Trump would have been a lot more active.
I think he's going to do all this stuff, and
I think he's going to do it in year one,
and I don't think they're ready to be able to
fight back against him. Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
(08:17):
We were talking about Trump is a literary character. According
to new Gingrich.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The Governor Clay was defending Harry Potter to the absolutely
I was, he was, I.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Was, and I will be honest with you a little
bit part of my love for Harry Potter, which I
read as a twenty one year twenty two year old
law student. That's when I was reading all those books.
I love that JK. Rowling has been willing to speak
out on all these trans related issues. When it feels
like every other billionaire acts like Mark Cuban basically cuts
(08:52):
their balls off, the author of Harry Potter just shows
up and is willing to throw down day to day
and say, hey, by iological truth matters.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And that makes me like her books even more. Sure,
I still like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I would encourage you well, I mean, I read all
those books too, because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But you are soon going to have a son.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
My suggestion to you would be at some point when
young Buck Junior is beginning to read that you should
read those books with him, and I think you'll be
like five, seven, eight years from now, you're gonna be like,
you know what, Clay, You're right.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The Harry Potter books are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I regret my criticism of my criticism of the Harry
Potter books.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
You overestimate the speed with which I like to say
the words, Clay, you were right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, it's going to be tough, tough. Car has Carrie
read Surely carry has read these books. She's actually out
of the house right now, so I gotta ask her
quiz are on this and find out As.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The the Sexton family, I feel like this was like
the vampires, you know what I'm talking about? The what
was the thing like the in the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
This is very different. That's Twilight. I did not read those.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I feel like Clay read something about the moody vampires.
I don't know, vampire and my ware wilf.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I'm gonna listen to some more Radiohead.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But Mike Leach rest in peace, former Mississippi State football coach,
went off on the Twilight Books once with me and
said that the whole world was going to hell because
vampires weren't badass killers anymore. They were just MOPI losers.
And I remember that strong take from a football coach.
(10:47):
I didn't expect him to have strong opinions on modern
day vampires, but that take of ripping the Twilight books
just echoed everywhere because I do agree with you on
that one. You're wrong on Harry Potter, right on Twilight.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'll take one for two. That's how we do better
with our prize picks this week. We need to run
the table play.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Amen. That's a great transition. Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I made a clearly true statement the Buck Sexton old
man and his anti Harry Potter takes are out of
step with American life.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And the reaction was massive.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Including many of you who wait in with your own
messages for me, including one of our listeners, Ken in Lincoln, Nebraska,
home of the corn Huskers.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He was really fired up about this. Listen to what
he had to say. Clay, I'm a black guy who
listens to your show. No, I'm not African American. I'm black.
I cannot believe that you would put Harry Potter and
Star Wars in the same sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You're lost Clay lost.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
That man is correct, I correct, Wow, yeah, I mean
I used to think that people of Lincoln, Nebraska were
a fine group of upstanding individuals just hoping that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Their corn Huskers could return to nineteen nineties glory. And
then my man, let's see, let me get his name right,
my man Ken just comes after me.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Ken. You're wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You and Buck are just on the wrong side of
history here, frankly, And just because you hate fun, enjoy
and effervescent children overcoming evil doesn't mean that I have
to stoop to your level. You're just wrong. Why you
gotta be so mean as the esteem? Taylor Swift once said, I.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Mean Star Wars is an era defining movie spectacle and
change cinema. Harry Potter is you know, It's like, I
don't know, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mean, I'm gonna blow your mind. Harry Potter is more
influential than Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Dude. The I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The amount of people dressed as Jedi with lightsabers that
are going to be waiting outside your next book signing
just went up dramatically. I'm telling you, Obi Wan Kenobi
lookalikes are never going to forget this.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Clay I'm telling I get it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All the what do they call in the cosplay people,
all the people who wear their their costumeths. By the way,
a lot of them are Harry Potter people too. They
even play fake quidditch right, which isn't even real. They
are crazy. Here's my argument. Star Wars incredibly influential. I'm
not anti Star Wars for all of you out there
that are coming after me with your blaster guns, but
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the book and the movie is more influential than just
the movie standing alone. And I think Buck, if you
had been born in two thousand or nineteen ninety instead
of or two thousand, yeah, nineteen ninety or two thousand,
you would feel very differently about this hate that you're
spreading on the biggest radio show in the country. And
(14:09):
we will continue to allow everyone to ra way in,
including Dan in Denver, who says Buck's wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Listen, my god, that Harry Potter rant there. I think
we know who the Grendle is now.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Wow, throwing me under the bus as it's you know
it's Frendle. Just because I don't like Harry Potter doesn't
mean that I go tearing vikings in half and eating
them that's a little intense.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We have monster audiences thanks to kfab listener that was
Ken and thanks to Freedom ninety three point seven Katie
fd in Denver, those Denver numbers have gotten huge Sunday
drop with Clay Buck, did you see this crazy chick
(14:58):
Buck from the washing and post Taylor Lorenz still talking
about how she's going out on her book tour and
how she's angry at how many people are still walking
around without masks. At some point, if you have a
functional brain, whoever you support, you should say, hey, you
(15:19):
know what. I support Trump, but I don't agree with
him on X, or I support Biden but I don't
agree with him on why you should never agree one
hundred percent with any politician because politicians oftentimes are not
one hundred percent logical and rational in the positions that
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they adopt, and also, they, like all.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Of us, are imperfect.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The fact that so many Democrats feel compelled to go
on television and defend Joe Biden for doing the exact
opposite of what they said he should do and praised
him for is evidence, I think of why trust overall
in media collapsing. Buck, I was looking at the data,
you know, seventy three percent of all news viewership.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Now is Fox News? Think about how crazy astonishing?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Seventy three percent buck twenty seven percent of the audience
is split between CNN and MSNBC. I would submit to
you it's not because everyone agrees with every single host
on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's that over time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Those of you who watch cable news believe that at
least the people talking to you on Fox News believe
what they're saying. And meanwhile, on CNN and MSNBC, you
recognize now that you've been lied to. And I do
think that analogy of trust, I think it's the perfect one.
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Warren Buffett, who's the greatest investor of any of our lives,
explained how he invested, and he said, overtime, the stock
market is a weighing device every company, the stock market
considers and ultimately gets right over time on what is
the value of this corporation. I think media is the
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same way. Over time, all of you out there have
gobs of people talking to you, and you listen, and
overtime you weigh and say, do I trust this person
or not not to always agree with them, but just
to trust them. And I think what you're seeing is
uniquely left wing. Media is dishonest not only in the
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arguments they make, but in the fact that they don't
believe many of the arguments that they are making. I
don't think Buck, in four years, you and I have
had a ton of opinions. I don't think we've ever
had an opinion where I went back and I was like, oh,
I don't think that's actually real. We might be wrong,
we often are. We're human, but we're very real, and
I think you guys feel it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't think we're wrong. Off, we've been right.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You tried to be kind with mostly Usually usually you're
doing the endorse the self endorsements for us here on
the show. But I'm just gonna step in here, Clay.
We've pretty much nailed almost everything we've been wrong. Like
a couple Yes, I had to buy you a stake
that was a fifty to fifty binary and it came
down to the wire. Yes, the Red Wave twenty twenty two.
Other than that, not really, I'm saying kind of nailed it.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So I said this the other night, much to my
wife's chagrin. We were getting ready for bed.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
She was talking about, you know, the election, the results
you know, looking forward and everything else. And I was like,
you know, I've pretty much gotten everything big right over
the last eight years. And I'll have you know that
Lauren Travis has a long list of things that I
have gotten very wrong over the last eight years, the
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last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I told you this, Buck, but again, good advice. Every
woman is keeping score all the time, and many men
have no idea there's a game underway. I'm just saying,
they've got a scoreboard in their head, and when you
get far enough behind you hear about it. But you're
not even aware score is being kept. And they got
a tally.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There's always a scoreboard going in every wive's head, and
at some point in time, if you get too far behind.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You hear about it.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I don't think a lot of men know this,
especially young married men out there.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You're like, I didn't what like, there's a game, there's
a scoreboard. I didn't even yet.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's going, it's running all the time, and you're probably behind,
probably losing, just trying to keep it as close close
to even as you possibly can, or you're gonna hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
This is the marital advice I'm getting from Clay I
can't wait to hear the baby advice, just like be prepared,
get ready.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I will tell I don't know if we talked about
this on the air. I'm trying to give you advice
off the air. You don't even know the Rumsfeld example,
you don't even know what you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Know because you haven't been a parent yet.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So trying, I'm like two or three levels beyond where
you've even thought. Because men and I've been there have
no idea about weddings, and we have no idea about
babies in general. Women have been doing research on both
since they can remember. They've been carrying around babies, they've
been thinking about their wedding dress. They've been thinking about
all these things that your average boy to man has
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no clue on, and you don't even realize it until
you get engaged. And then your wife soon to be wife,
your fiance gets on the phone with her mom and
they've already been talking about like eight different venues and
the dates, and you had no idea these kind of
conversations even existed.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
She can kind of hear me next door, so I
have to keep up with a little bit, but the
level of understanding and planning and preparation of all of
the like you know, baby logistics that had gone on,
or I had even thought about this, Like I'm a guy,
so my understanding of it was baby must be safe, fed, sleeps,
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changes diaper. That was pretty much it. There's all this
other stuff that has to be factored in.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You you know as a man that a crib exists
and that a stroller exists. You are aware that these
devices exist. Basically, a stroller is like a rocket ship. Now,
the amount of things that these things can do is
off the charts. Women know about the difference between strollers.
They also know about the difference in cribs. I knew
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that both existed on a rudimentary level, like, oh, I
know that cars exist. Strollers are like rocket ships now,
I mean the amount of things you can do, the
way that you fold them. Women know all this stuff.
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It starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
But I saw this in the cut sheet and I
thought we got to play this. Newt Gingrich was talking
about how indestructible Trump is. Did you see what the
analogy was that he used? Buck He said, Trump is
a mythic figure. This is maybe the nerdiest analogy of
all time from Newt Gingrich. Listen to cut twenty one.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Look, if you're a relatively sophisticated leader around the world,
and you watch nine years of the rise of Donald Trump,
and you watch two impeachments, and you watch all of
these efforts to catch him in the law, and you
watch two assassination attempts, and the guy just keeps coming.
(00:55):
As I said the other day, this is a mythic figure,
almost like the various Scandinavian BeO wolfs and other kind
of sagas. I mean, you can't there's no practical way
that you can explain Trump within a normal political structure, right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I need to know something I need to know something.
So who's Grendel in this analogy? If he's Beowolf? I mean,
is is it Adam Schiff? Is it Liz Cheney? Who
is Grendel the monster?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You went and proved my nerd argument by immediately getting
the Beowulf analogy?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
What percented that? New Gingrich? Obviously very bright guy.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
But when I heard that he compared Trump to Beowolf,
I just I had a flashback to ninth grade English
or whatever year it was that we read it, and
I'm just picturing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I love it? Can I say I love it?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Anytime somebody makes a literary reference that is not Harry.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Potter, I get excited. Okay, there are other literary you
have made. Excuse me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That is an affirmative choice that I make to not
be part of the Harry Potter masses. All right, everything
is always Harry Potter all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Boo, it's like Fuldemort. Oh it's okay, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So, yes, I like the Beowolf nerd reference, mister Clay,
I will tell you I like mixing it up.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You also, when you are anti Harry Potter, are like
the guy or gal back in the day that refused
to watch Star Wars. You realize that, right, Like this
is like the modern day version of you being like,
who cares about lightsabers? That's stupid? Oh and you're gonna
go fly around in space? How come they don't ever
have gravity issues on the airplane?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Like this is you. You just are older, so you don't.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Realize that's a little shit, that's a little shake. Harry
Potter's for like tweens, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I this is an outrage, Harry. Well, maybe it's a
younger generation, but you said is true. But no, no, no,
I but you you are like the old guy who
was coming after Star Wars. I'm saying if we had
been doing this show in like nineteen eighty six, you
would be like, oh, all you losers watching Star Wars? Oh,
(03:11):
return of the Jedi? Who cares about that at all?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean that probably would have been me in nineteen
eighty six. But nonetheless, my Harry Potter, I'm just an
I love the expansion of literary references beyond just one.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Just throw some C. S. Lewis in there.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Just give me some other stuff, please, Somebody, If you
spend any of your time online, it's always Harry Potter
all the time. It's like the tyranny of Harry Potter.
It's like people who only tied with Hamilton on Broadway.
There are other Broadway shows.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I just am happy that anybody reads a book these days.
So if you're actually referencing a book at LEO, I
guess a lot of people are not even referencing the
book anymore. They just watch the movies, like my fourteen
year old. But but I do think that the Beowolf
reference is somewhat unique in that Trump is becoming a
(04:02):
mythical figure.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And I think that's.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
One reason to go to your point about him undertaking
the actions that he has the moment, and I really
believe this is becoming truer and true every day, the
moment buck that he survived that assassination attempt and stood
up and pumped his fist and said fight three times.
You remember when Lincoln died and Stanton, they can fact
(04:27):
check me on this. I believe it was Edwin Stanton
said at the moment that Lincoln died, now he belongs
to the ages. Right after he was assassinated at Ford's Theater. Remember,
at the time, Abraham Lincoln was not that popular it's important.
If you study history, a lot of times the guys
that we believe are the greatest presidents ever in their
(04:50):
current existence, that is, when they were involved in politics
were ripped to shreds. A lot of people didn't like them.
Lincoln became a mythologic figure when he was assassinated at
Ford's Theater. This is me projecting history, which is always difficult,
but I think there is going to be in the
decades and the long run of history ahead, that moment
(05:15):
of Trump surviving the assassination attempt and rising and pumping
his fist and saying fight, fight, fight. It's an iconic
image to those of us that are alive today. I
think it's going to be even more iconic fifty years
from now.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And the point I believe where it comes into play
here is I think in winning the popular vote and
vanquishing all opposition against him, Trump is becoming harder and
harder to rip. Now he's got two years, because every
president in the final two years doesn't matter that much,
but what he can accomplish in these two years I
(05:54):
think has the potential to set us on the directory,
the direction, and the trajectory we need. To go for
the next fifteen or twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think one of the complicating factors for the Trump
opposition is they are facing for the first time a
Trump who only has the possibility.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Of four years. You know what I mean? Yes, like
this is that?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I understand. You know, in twenty sixteen, the belief
was man Trump could be president for eight straight years,
and then going into twenty twenty, you know, they were
able to stop him and so he didn't actually come
into power. This time around, they're facing him for four years,
and I think it's meaningful for how they're trying to
align themselves in the opposition and why they look like
(06:36):
they're just scurrying all over the place of no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Look really deflated and defeated right now. They will bounce back.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't want to get into triumphalism here, trust me,
Kamala hate to say it, got a lot of votes
for the worst candidate we've ever seen in our lifetime. Okay,
just remember that, Yes, she got smoked by Trump, but
she's still got a lot of votes. So let's not
be too to patting ourselves on the back here. But
they they're going to be running against not Trump, and
(07:07):
they're going to be trying to take away you know,
the House and the Senate of the midterms in very
short order. So to turn everything into an anti Trump
argument doesn't really make sense, do you know what I mean?
They've never had to do this before, because twenty twenty,
it's obviously anything to defeat him. But now they want
to oppose him. But they're also going to have to run,
and they're going to have to run relatively soon. So
(07:30):
I think that they don't know what the party's supposed
to be, what their party's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, you've never had Trump without having to think about
re election, and I think it's important, and you heard
him mention this in the birthright citizenship discussion. COVID took
a year away from him. I think he would have
done the birthright citizenship plan in twenty twenty, but in
February of his final year in office, suddenly COVID exploded
(07:57):
and became the story for the entire election calendar and
that whole year. What would have happened if COVID hadn't arrived.
I think Trump would have been a lot more active.
I think he's going to do all this stuff, and
I think he's going to do it in year one,
and I don't think they're ready to be able to
fight back against him. Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.
(08:17):
We were talking about Trump is a literary character. According
to new Gingrich.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
The Governor Clay was defending Harry Potter to the absolutely
I was, he was, I.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Was, and I will be honest with you a little
bit part of my love for Harry Potter, which I
read as a twenty one year twenty two year old
law student. That's when I was reading all those books.
I love that JK. Rowling has been willing to speak
out on all these trans related issues. When it feels
like every other billionaire acts like Mark Cuban basically cuts
(08:52):
their balls off, the author of Harry Potter just shows
up and is willing to throw down day to day
and say, hey, by iological truth matters.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And that makes me like her books even more. Sure,
I still like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I would encourage you well, I mean, I read all
those books too, because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But you are soon going to have a son.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
My suggestion to you would be at some point when
young Buck Junior is beginning to read that you should
read those books with him, and I think you'll be
like five, seven, eight years from now, you're gonna be like,
you know what, Clay, You're right.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The Harry Potter books are pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I regret my criticism of my criticism of the Harry
Potter books.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
You overestimate the speed with which I like to say
the words, Clay, you were right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, it's going to be tough, tough. Car has Carrie
read Surely carry has read these books. She's actually out
of the house right now, so I gotta ask her
quiz are on this and find out As.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
The the Sexton family, I feel like this was like
the vampires, you know what I'm talking about? The what
was the thing like the in the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
This is very different. That's Twilight. I did not read those.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I feel like Clay read something about the moody vampires.
I don't know, vampire and my ware wilf.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I'm gonna listen to some more Radiohead.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But Mike Leach rest in peace, former Mississippi State football coach,
went off on the Twilight Books once with me and
said that the whole world was going to hell because
vampires weren't badass killers anymore. They were just MOPI losers.
And I remember that strong take from a football coach.
(10:47):
I didn't expect him to have strong opinions on modern
day vampires, but that take of ripping the Twilight books
just echoed everywhere because I do agree with you on
that one. You're wrong on Harry Potter, right on Twilight.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'll take one for two. That's how we do better
with our prize picks this week. We need to run
the table play.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Amen. That's a great transition. Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I made a clearly true statement the Buck Sexton old
man and his anti Harry Potter takes are out of
step with American life.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And the reaction was massive.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Including many of you who wait in with your own
messages for me, including one of our listeners, Ken in Lincoln, Nebraska,
home of the corn Huskers.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He was really fired up about this. Listen to what
he had to say. Clay, I'm a black guy who
listens to your show. No, I'm not African American. I'm black.
I cannot believe that you would put Harry Potter and
Star Wars in the same sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You're lost Clay lost.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
That man is correct, I correct, Wow, yeah, I mean
I used to think that people of Lincoln, Nebraska were
a fine group of upstanding individuals just hoping that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Their corn Huskers could return to nineteen nineties glory. And
then my man, let's see, let me get his name right,
my man Ken just comes after me.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Ken. You're wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
You and Buck are just on the wrong side of
history here, frankly, And just because you hate fun, enjoy
and effervescent children overcoming evil doesn't mean that I have
to stoop to your level. You're just wrong. Why you
gotta be so mean as the esteem? Taylor Swift once said, I.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Mean Star Wars is an era defining movie spectacle and
change cinema. Harry Potter is you know, It's like, I
don't know, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Mean, I'm gonna blow your mind. Harry Potter is more
influential than Star Wars.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Dude. The I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
The amount of people dressed as Jedi with lightsabers that
are going to be waiting outside your next book signing
just went up dramatically. I'm telling you, Obi Wan Kenobi
lookalikes are never going to forget this.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Clay I'm telling I get it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All the what do they call in the cosplay people,
all the people who wear their their costumeths. By the way,
a lot of them are Harry Potter people too. They
even play fake quidditch right, which isn't even real. They
are crazy. Here's my argument. Star Wars incredibly influential. I'm
not anti Star Wars for all of you out there
that are coming after me with your blaster guns, but
(13:45):
the book and the movie is more influential than just
the movie standing alone. And I think Buck, if you
had been born in two thousand or nineteen ninety instead
of or two thousand, yeah, nineteen ninety or two thousand,
you would feel very differently about this hate that you're
spreading on the biggest radio show in the country. And
(14:09):
we will continue to allow everyone to ra way in,
including Dan in Denver, who says Buck's wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Listen, my god, that Harry Potter rant there. I think
we know who the Grendle is now.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Wow, throwing me under the bus as it's you know
it's Frendle. Just because I don't like Harry Potter doesn't
mean that I go tearing vikings in half and eating
them that's a little intense.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
We have monster audiences thanks to kfab listener that was
Ken and thanks to Freedom ninety three point seven Katie
fd in Denver, those Denver numbers have gotten huge Sunday
drop with Clay Buck, did you see this crazy chick
(14:58):
Buck from the washing and post Taylor Lorenz still talking
about how she's going out on her book tour and
how she's angry at how many people are still walking
around without masks. At some point, if you have a
functional brain, whoever you support, you should say, hey, you
(15:19):
know what. I support Trump, but I don't agree with
him on X, or I support Biden but I don't
agree with him on why you should never agree one
hundred percent with any politician because politicians oftentimes are not
one hundred percent logical and rational in the positions that
(15:39):
they adopt, and also, they, like all.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Of us, are imperfect.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The fact that so many Democrats feel compelled to go
on television and defend Joe Biden for doing the exact
opposite of what they said he should do and praised
him for is evidence, I think of why trust overall
in media collapsing. Buck, I was looking at the data,
you know, seventy three percent of all news viewership.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Now is Fox News? Think about how crazy astonishing?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Seventy three percent buck twenty seven percent of the audience
is split between CNN and MSNBC. I would submit to
you it's not because everyone agrees with every single host
on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's that over time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Those of you who watch cable news believe that at
least the people talking to you on Fox News believe
what they're saying. And meanwhile, on CNN and MSNBC, you
recognize now that you've been lied to. And I do
think that analogy of trust, I think it's the perfect one.
(16:51):
Warren Buffett, who's the greatest investor of any of our lives,
explained how he invested, and he said, overtime, the stock
market is a weighing device every company, the stock market
considers and ultimately gets right over time on what is
the value of this corporation. I think media is the
(17:12):
same way. Over time, all of you out there have
gobs of people talking to you, and you listen, and
overtime you weigh and say, do I trust this person
or not not to always agree with them, but just
to trust them. And I think what you're seeing is
uniquely left wing. Media is dishonest not only in the
(17:34):
arguments they make, but in the fact that they don't
believe many of the arguments that they are making. I
don't think Buck, in four years, you and I have
had a ton of opinions. I don't think we've ever
had an opinion where I went back and I was like, oh,
I don't think that's actually real. We might be wrong,
we often are. We're human, but we're very real, and
I think you guys feel it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't think we're wrong. Off, we've been right.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You tried to be kind with mostly Usually usually you're
doing the endorse the self endorsements for us here on
the show. But I'm just gonna step in here, Clay.
We've pretty much nailed almost everything we've been wrong. Like
a couple Yes, I had to buy you a stake
that was a fifty to fifty binary and it came
down to the wire. Yes, the Red Wave twenty twenty two.
Other than that, not really, I'm saying kind of nailed it.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So I said this the other night, much to my
wife's chagrin. We were getting ready for bed.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
She was talking about, you know, the election, the results
you know, looking forward and everything else. And I was like,
you know, I've pretty much gotten everything big right over
the last eight years. And I'll have you know that
Lauren Travis has a long list of things that I
have gotten very wrong over the last eight years, the
(18:46):
last twenty years.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I told you this, Buck, but again, good advice. Every
woman is keeping score all the time, and many men
have no idea there's a game underway. I'm just saying,
they've got a scoreboard in their head, and when you
get far enough behind you hear about it. But you're
not even aware score is being kept. And they got
a tally.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
There's always a scoreboard going in every wive's head, and
at some point in time, if you get too far behind.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You hear about it.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I don't think a lot of men know this,
especially young married men out there.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You're like, I didn't what like, there's a game, there's
a scoreboard. I didn't even yet.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's going, it's running all the time, and you're probably behind,
probably losing, just trying to keep it as close close
to even as you possibly can, or you're gonna hear
about it.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
This is the marital advice I'm getting from Clay I
can't wait to hear the baby advice, just like be prepared,
get ready.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I will tell I don't know if we talked about
this on the air. I'm trying to give you advice
off the air. You don't even know the Rumsfeld example,
you don't even know what you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Know because you haven't been a parent yet.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So trying, I'm like two or three levels beyond where
you've even thought. Because men and I've been there have
no idea about weddings, and we have no idea about
babies in general. Women have been doing research on both
since they can remember. They've been carrying around babies, they've
been thinking about their wedding dress. They've been thinking about
all these things that your average boy to man has
(20:17):
no clue on, and you don't even realize it until
you get engaged. And then your wife soon to be wife,
your fiance gets on the phone with her mom and
they've already been talking about like eight different venues and
the dates, and you had no idea these kind of
conversations even existed.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
She can kind of hear me next door, so I
have to keep up with a little bit, but the
level of understanding and planning and preparation of all of
the like you know, baby logistics that had gone on,
or I had even thought about this, Like I'm a guy,
so my understanding of it was baby must be safe, fed, sleeps,
(20:54):
changes diaper. That was pretty much it. There's all this
other stuff that has to be factored in.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You you know as a man that a crib exists
and that a stroller exists. You are aware that these
devices exist. Basically, a stroller is like a rocket ship. Now,
the amount of things that these things can do is
off the charts. Women know about the difference between strollers.
They also know about the difference in cribs. I knew
(21:22):
that both existed on a rudimentary level, like, oh, I
know that cars exist. Strollers are like rocket ships now,
I mean the amount of things you can do, the
way that you fold them. Women know all this stuff.
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