February 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Having fun with AI and the need for more young conservative history teachers. The worst idea for a movie. Triumph the insult comic dog. Things that make you go, “Hmmm”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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The Sunday Hang with Clay and Fuck podcast starts now apparently,
photos of Clay playing the flute in various stages of
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undress and now snuggling with many cats are taking over
the Internet. Clay, I'm just saying the the AI skills
of this audience are far beyond what I anticipated. Very
creative bunch.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I know producer Ali, if she wants to come in,
has been seeing these things like I can't even keep up.
So for people out there who don't know, I have
maybe consistently for a couple of years now made fun
of the idea of people playing the flute, and men
in particular, a.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Lot of you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know who started it, but one of you
out there started using AI to put me playing the
flute in all sorts of different places. Probably a flute player,
probably a flute player Big Flute came after me, and
there are now I mean, I think it's certainly the
case hundreds of different AI generated flute playing pictures of me,
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and as Buck said, various states of undress with various
different individuals, some like historic in nature, other I mean
the many of them involving sports.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It really is it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, it really is impressive the degree to which
you guys have used your your wit and creativity to
come up with a lot of these. I find myself
laughing pretty hysterically when I happened to see one. And
then there's always a bevyum. I mean, there are I
would certainly guess over one hundred different me playing the
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flute memes that you guys have created that are now
bouncing around the Internet.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And the end.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Result of this is if I actually went out and
played the flute, Buck, I don't think anybody would actually
believe the picture was real because.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of my minute that Clay is the James Galway or
the Jean Pierre Rampal of Tennessee. Just throwing that out
there for those of you who are classical musicians. So
we talked about pardons, good pardons that Trump did. At
the beginning of this, I wanted to note that there
was another pardon that was in an ignominious pardon for
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an evil little tyrant smurf.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
The Fouch Tony Fauci. Do you know that Fouch has
had a security detail where he has a limousine that
drives him around and men with guns protecting him twenty
four to seven Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
This has been going on for years now, and first
of all, I agree, let me only play this before
we get into the security detail, because Rand Paul was
pushing some of this through. Rand Paul cut twenty one
that Fauci will not be judged well by history. Play it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
History's going to judge him harshly. By accepting that pardon
through Supreme Court precedence, he's actually accepting his guilt, so
he's accepting culpability. He made the decision to bypass and
to avoid the Safety committee to fund this without adequate
review of its safety. He made a terrible decision, but
you have to realize it wasn't a one off. For
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over a decade, Anthony Fauci had said that the risks
of a pandemic occurring were worth the benefit of the knowledge.
Most other scientists disagree with that, but the idea that
we could do anything to any virus and if it escapes.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh well, Whoop's too bad. The knowledge is worth it.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think that Rand Paul might be the certainly the
only elected official who finds Fauci more loathsome than I
find Fauci, which is a very high bar. So I
respect that doctor Rand Paul legit on this issue. And
Clay Fauci's security detail has been pulled. That's the reporting today.
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So now he just has to take the millions that
he's worth somehow and pay for his own security detail.
I think it's the right move. I can't I didn't
even realize Fauci had an armed security chauffeur service taking
him everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I honest question, what should be you worked as a
CIA officer. I think this is a big picture question
because you and I both felt like RFK Junior should
get Secret Service protection, and I feel running for president,
and when he's running for president, people are trying to
like I think if you, I don't know what exactly
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the standard should be, But if you're running for president,
I don't have a problem with you getting Secret Service
detail protection.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think most of you out there would think that
makes sense. Certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think if you're a Supreme Court justice in these
times in which we live on FO Fortunately, I think
you need a security detail. We know somebody tried to
kill Brett Kavanaugh, even though that story totally got buried.
But I think whether you're a left or a right
wing court member or middle of the road, whatever, you
should have a security detail. Secretary of State. I think
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most people out there say, yes, certain levels of government,
you should have a security detail. But you have to
draw the line somewhere. You can't give security details to
every single person in positions of prominence in the United
States government. So where do you draw the line. I'll
give you example.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Personally, he's not even in government anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's right, That's what I'm saying. So if you're not
in government, to me, the government shouldn't be providing you
a security detail. Again, the former president Bill Clinton needs one,
George W. Bush needs one. There are exceptions to the
not being in government rule. But the idea that Fauci
has a full time driver and that he has a
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security detail paid for by the United States government seems
absurd to me and to your point, Buck, he has
eleven million dollars in in they say income, he's eighty
years old or sorry net worth. He should be able
to afford his own security detail if security is actually
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that dangerous. I will say this though, if one of these,
like that John Bolton supposedly has got a Roan threats
against him, has lost his security detail, I don't want
us to be in a situation. And this is where
hindsight's always going to look twenty twenty. But we just
saw the United Healthcare CEO get executed on the street
in New York City. It is simultaneously the case that
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most CEOs don't need a security detail to protect them.
It is also simultaneously the case that as soon as
someone acts violently against someone in a prominent fashion, the
worst case scenario like the murder on the cold blood
on the streets, what does everybody immediately say, why didn't
they have a security detail. It's one of those things
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where in retrospect it looks either smart or dumb based
on what ends up happening, as opposed to from the
forward thinking aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
A couple of things about this one. If somebody really
want I mean this is this is chilling, but it's true. Yeah,
somebody with a reasonable someone is.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Committed to killing you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You are in very bad shape. Even if you have
a security detail. We all saw what happened in Butler,
Pennsylvania to the President of the United States. Some little
lunatic with a rifle almost changed the course of world history. Okay,
And that's with Secret Service snipers everywhere and everything. So
if someone is determined to get you, you're in a
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very bad a very bad place. And you know, you
talk about like the United State, even the United CEO
had a security detail for some portion of his day
or his life. If that guy wanted to get him,
he could probably find a way to get him. Another
just a side note if somebody speaking, if somebody wants
to get you, they're gonna come after you in and
they know what they're doing. In the morning, they're gonna
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come after you, and that's when your mote, that's when
your patterns are the most established. That's when it's most
likely to know where you are and how you're moving.
So just always be aware because people in the mornings,
I think, oh, it's the morning, and they kind of
you know, the sun's coming, everything's fun. Bad people actually
will come after you in the morning more than they
would like at night. Coming into your home. People are
you know you're coming to my home at night. I
got a lot of guns. Like people are ready at
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night if someone if an intruder comes in the morning
walking out to get your paper. I'm just saying, if you,
if you anyone's coming after, if you're ever under threat,
just be aware of it that the mornings are actually
a dangerous time for people. You tend to have slower reaction.
That's just an aside. But on this issue, I mean
for Fauchee to have for because he's gotten death threats
lots of people. He's a private citizen now, lots of people.
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Lets people in the media get death threats.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You've and I.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
We've gotten death threats. Yes, so uh I you know,
I think the people with these security details, it starts
to become a little bit of an excuse to have
a private show first service for or president and former
government officials. Isn't there doesn't a Bolton have a security
detail too? He did?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Trump pulled it, That's what I'm saying, Like that there
have been threats against him in Pompeo from Iran and
supposedly Trump pulled it this week.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean, have security on him forever.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I worked with colleagues and counter terrorism who are not famous,
but who were known in certain circles. Let's just say
who ended up on who It was found that they
were on actual like lists.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Get a taxpayer funded security detail. It was you know,
use your trade craft and watch your back, buddy. So
I think this starts to become like I said, for Fauci,
it's just a babysitting service to drive him around everywhere. Uh,
there's not enough of an active threat. He's a former
government official, and lots of people get ticked off with
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lots of people who have worked in government. We can't
pay for private security details for all of them. I
just think it's little tyrant King Fauci getting special treatment
because the Democrats suck up to him so much, because
what they don't want to believe is that Fauci is
the worst and everything he did was wrong and he
miserated hundreds of millions of people unnecessarily because he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Ran Paul said something interesting, And we always like to
talk not only about what the today history is, but
what the future verdict of history is going to be.
Fauci's over eighty years old. What do you think the
verdict of Fauci is going to be buck in twenty
fifty and twenty seventy, because they will write books about COVID,
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just like the influenza books that you and I read
from the influenza outbreak, the Spanish flu one hundred years ago.
How is he going to look in your life?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
They're going to go full McCarthyism, red scare, and that's
different than what a lot of people think it is
with the COVID thing, meaning they're going to furiously and
feverishly try to rewrite history and not let people realize
that we had effectively like a trial run of state
authoritarianism under COVID, run by the Democrats who were wrong
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on everything, who violated the Constitution, who trampled on freedom
of a freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of everything. Basically,
they're going to try to say that, oh, it was
really dangerous pandemic. Then we handled the best we could
with the knowledge we had, and Anthony Fauci was a
dedicated public servant. They're going to try very very hard
because unfortunately the health establishment. It's funny, I've got doctors, Clay,
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you know what I got right wing doctors, not a
surprise to anybody. My doctors right wing. I trust them
with my health, I trust them with my politics. The
health establishment, though the health bureaucrats, there is left wing
as journalists. I mean in terms of the aggregate. Like
you look at the numbers, places like the CDC full
of communists, full of ultra left wingers, these NIH full
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of ultra left wingers, major hospital systems full, so we
got we got work to do there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Big time economists too, which is actually sad because you
would think that a lot of economists would be understanding
of the amazing number of left wing economists. I think
my answer on this buck would be because if you're
like a badass in economics, you actually just go work
for a hedge fund or private equity and you end
up making millions and millions of dollars. If you're more
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of a theoretical guy political guy, you end up in
a government job where actually you make a pinprike of
what you would make in the I bet if.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You looked at good I bet if you looked at
the number of economists who were Republican in the in
the academy in the nine in the eighties and the nineties,
it was substantially more than we've had in the last
twenty years. I think that I think it was you know,
there there were certainly more Caines versus Milton Friedman back
in the day in the academy. Now for the last
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twenty years, combination of things de ei left wing tilt
of the universities, I think they've effectively blocked out anybody
from becoming a conservative economist on campus in a lot
of places. You know, you know, the only places where
you have conservative professors and any real the only disciplines
you have conservative professors and any real numbers, hard numbers
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based math, physics, you know, those are the ones where
you actually get a fair number of conservatives, because it
turns out that you know, in calculus, you want somebody
who actually can get the right answer. That's still a thing.
In political science, you want people actually police, which is
my major poly size. Not as left wing as a
lot of the other humanities. It's kind of middle of
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the pack. But oh man, you get into like English,
you know what's sad Clay history, that's the way it
disappoints me, and it makes me sad history has been
overtaken by left wing lunatics. We need some of you
brilliant young people listening to this, you know, to become
great history professors and history you know, history authors. That
stuff actually matters for the future of the country as
much the past.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Massively, how you tell the story of American history in
many ways can define the future. Biden saw that, but
you saw how left wing many of these guys are.
The best Meachum's and the Michael Beschilosus.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I was gonna say, they start trotting out the historians
to explain that the presidential powers and all this other stuff,
and then they all cry about Trump's a fascist. It's
madness Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. I don't even
quite understand how this has happened. But we've been discussing
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sanity returning too much of America. It has not, however,
returned to Hollywood yet. The Oscar nominations came out. Can
one of you in the studio send me the Oscar
nomination list. I'm betting that I haven't seen very many
of the movies, if any. I honestly have no idea
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what movies would even be nominated, And I bet I
don't know most of the actors or actresses that are nominated.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there are some movies that are
somewhat popular, but I did see this.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Have you seen the list?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I'm looking at it right now. One of the most
nominations is called Emilia Perez. I've never even I hadn't
heard of this movie till I just read this. Have
you heard of this movie? I had no.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The only reason, the only reason I know anything about that.
I know nothing much about that movie except that the
woman who's green in Marvel is On is in that movie,
Zoe Saldana, the one from Guardians of the Galaxy that
plays the green superhero. That's the Here's the best Okay,
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here are the Best Picture nominees. Buck The staff just
sent them to me. I mean, I'm looking at it
right now. They're Honora the Brutalist, a complete unknown Conclave, Wicked.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I do know.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I didn't go see it, but I know Wicked obviously
based on the book that turned into a play, Dune
Part two. I went and saw that and it was good, good,
So I actually really liked Dune Part two. Encourage people
to go check that out. Amelia Perez Nickel Boys the Substance.
I'm still here. Now, I'm not claiming that I am
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an expert in movies, but I like movies. I've only
heard of two of these movies, Wicked and Dune Part two.
Have you seen any of these movies in theater? Any
of the Best Picture nominees. I don't go to movie
theaters anymore. I have a rule about this. Have you
streamed any of them from the comfort of your home?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I've seen do I saw Dune Part two. I like
Dune the first one very much. I've read the book
a long time ago. Yeah, June two was not Christopher
walking as the Emperor was a weird choice. That was
my Look, why Christopher walkin? I just didn't get that.
But oh it's it's pretty good. It also felt a
little too I don't know, a little too like kind
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of like a Mid East ripoff to me, But it
was pretty good. It was pretty good. That's the only
one that I've seen to answer any other.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
All Right, So my point on this is they keep
talking about how they want to bring back the oscars
and people are gonna watch and how glamorous Hollywood is,
and there aren't really very many famous movies that everybody
comes together and went and saw of Wicked again and
done two both popular. Otherwise, I bet most of you
are like me, and you don't even know some of
these movies. So they have nominated a man pretending to
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be a woman and not like, Hey, what was it
like Tom Hanks back in Bosom Book Buddies or something
back in the day, or Missus Doubtfire's being done? Didn't
he do a show called Bosom Buddies or something too?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I no, I know, but I'm saying, wasn't my what's
his name? That's Dustin Hoffman who did Justin Hoffman and
TUTSI he was dressed as a woman, but that's done?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Or like Missus Doubtfire with Tyler Perry or sorry with
Missus Doubtfire.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
With Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, yeah, and that would be the black version of
Missus Doubtfire, but which exists the Medea movies is basically
Missus Doubtfire except a black woman instead.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
All right, So that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm not talking about a guy playing a woman for
comedic effect and being nominated for a Best Picture. I'm
talking about a man who has decided that he is
now a woman and has been nominated as a woman.
A man has been nominated as a woman to win
Best Actress, So we now have reached. Not only are
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men winning women's championships in sports. Now it is possible
that Hollywood is going to name as a Best Actress
a man who says he is a woman. Again, it's
an acting thing, so I'm not saying a man pretending
to be a woman, who would I guess you'd be
nominated Best Actor?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Is a trans woman?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
A trans woman is what what we're talking about here
has been nominated for best.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Which has never happened to my knowledge before. But you
now have the potential that what is the greatest honor?
I think it's fair to say of any actor or
actress's career to be given an oscar as the best
performing actor or actress in a movie. Now a man
may be the best actress.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, I just also think that this person is not
going to win because their performance as a woman is
not very convincing. I don't even know what the role is.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I see the picture and I'm like, it was it
a trans person that this trans person was supposed to
be playing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'm not, I don't know it. Maybe in that case
then I suppose I haven't seen the movie, so I
can't speak to it. But to be a best actress,
wouldn't know, Clay, if you were playing a trans person, wait,
hold on a second, it's like we're crossing the streams.
I know it's getting difficult playing a trans woman. Then,
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but you would be nominated for the best female like
the best female lead role, right, that's how that would do.
This is like I remember back in the day when
they were trying to teach you how to understand a
sentence and you would get up and have to diagram
diagram it.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But I need like a diagram here.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
If you are a trans woman, why would you get.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
A Like if you're trans woman, is just a man, right,
I'm trying to visualize this in my head.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So yes, but if you are, if you're a trans
woman and in real in your life, and then you
were playing a trans woman in a uh in the thing,
you're not really playing, do you see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, well, yeah,
you're not really acting. You're not really I thought it
was my point, So I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like trying to cancel out exponents or like no, no,
you know using I was trying. I can't even keep
track of where we're going.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
The thing that's so wild about this, and again, women
have to speak out about this because men just don't
allow it to happen. This is important culture. Most of
you can't even name a woman who decided that she
was a man and has attained a level of uh
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success in masculine life. I don't mean like just a
normal job. I mean like you are considered to be
in some form or fashion and avatar of masculinity. Masculinity,
it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
There are women who decide to become men, but they
just kind of typically destroy their careers because men are
like just kind of feel like, okay, that's fine, but
we're not gonna make you the avatar of masculinity.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
This is what I was kind of thinking about before.
So the actor actor is Carlos Sophia Gascone, who plays
a drug kingpin who undergoes quote gender affirming you know,
transgender surgery. So but to my point here, it's like
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it's kind of cheating, isn't it. You're an actor who's
playing somebody who's trans, like who goes trends, but you
are trans?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Do you see what I mean, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
This is their argument, though, Buck, which is kind of
crazy about this, is they have started to argue that
if you I mean and I can't. This is how
crazy all these rules have become. They have started to
argue that you are not allowed the whole point.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So let's take a step back. What is the whole
point of acting? To pretend to be something that you
are not? Right, That is the essence of acting. That's
all you do. You pretend to be something or someone
that you are not.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They now have started to say, Buck, what you're saying is,
I don't think it would be permissible now for someone
who is not trans to be playing a trans role. So,
in other words, if you what you're saying, if you
were just a regular dude and you're like, hey, I'm
going to play this transactor or actress, it's considered to
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be appropriation of the trans role for you to pretend
to be that.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This is how we've brought everything so full circle. Acting
is about pretending to be something that you are not,
But now you have to pretend to be something that
you are, because to pretend to be something that you're not,
if the thing that you are is a victim class
you are appropriating.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think I think I got that. I think I
got that. Is that is the rules that they have
to apply now such that it's I mean, it's Can
I just tell you something right now? I'm looking I'm
looking at this clay, I'm looking at this right now,
and I'm just I'm a little fired up. All I
have to see is see this guy's hands, and no,
it's a guy. I just it's like the Seinfeld with
man hands, that one. I remember this This actor has
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man hands. I mean makes my hands look like dainty
little cabbage patch kid hands. I'm just being honest, and
we're supposed to say this is a woman.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Now, I've never actress. Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Sometimes people are like, I don't know why you're so judgmental?
Can you even tell who the man.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Is that game?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because the answers always yes, yes, Yes, I can tell.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And if someone's saying that you can't tell, they're probably
lying to you. I'm talking about like if you have
you know, like if you have a lineup and you
have three women and one man pretending to be a woman,
I feel like I can go one hundred percent in
picking out the man right against actual women, Like it
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doesn't seem very difficult, and a lot of people are
lying to these men and being like, oh, you look
like such a beautiful woman. I just women have to
stand up in Can you imagine if this dude wins
the best Actor?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No heterosexual man sees a man who is trying to
present as a woman and is sexually attracted to that,
because then they wouldn't be a heterosexual man. That's this
is the This is one of that they tried to
start to do this for while. I remember I brought
this up, this was years ago, that it was transphobic
for a straight guy not to be attracted to trans women.
This was a thing for a while. They tried to
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push that and and they couldn't get evel In the
sort of mainstream left to go along with that. It
was it was too far. But I just it's funny
because I was looking on my on my computer Clay
as we're doing this, and I had something covering up.
I've got a clock and it's covering up half of
one of these screens, and I'm just looking at this
actor's hands and I'm like, this guy has the hands
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of like of a butcher from Pittsburgh. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
He could joke somebody to death easily. A butcher from
Pittsburgh is just such an evocative he can just rip,
just rip, like, uh, the ribs and just shreds. Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He's like, what are they gonna do with if this guy?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I want somebody to just go full ridiculous, like I
want this guy to win the you know, to win
the Oscar and just admit that he was doing this
all to ridicule to be amazing. If somebody just went
full like juwana man and just said, you guys are
such imbeciles, I would have never won the Best Actor.
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But I decided I was going to be a chick,
and now I've got to win.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I read I read the description of this movie. There's
no world in which this movie is not horrible. Just
reading the description.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
It's funny because the New York Times like an amazing
film unlike any other. I'm like, I read the It's
a cartel drug kingpin who becomes trans and then wants
to come back and hang out with his or her
whatever children.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
His children is this.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
A real story?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Or is it totally made up? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, I would think I'm not an expert on cartels,
but I would think a dude running a cartel who
decided that he was a chick would have a hard
time getting dudes with machine guns walking around.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean to us to producer ally just pointed out
there are musical numbers in this as well. So you
got you know, you got those pigho fun You got
this actor doing jazz hands with his big oven mitz.
You know this big, big ass hands. Imagine that you
were just a business person and I came to you, Buck,
and I was like, hey, I got a brilliant idea.
(27:17):
I'm gonna do a cartel movie. You might be like, Okay,
lots of interest in cartels, violence, drugs, probably a little
bit of sex. Cartel guy's not known for their great
decision making. Okay, I can work with it. And then
I'm like, but the cartel leader decides he's gonna get
his penis chopped off and become a woman, and he's
(27:38):
worried about his relationship with his kids. And it's a musical,
and somebody was like, here's my checkbook, just whatever you need.
This is that you can only make four films.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
At the studio this year. This is one of the
four we have to make. It sounds like just a
mad lib made up idea for a movie Sunday Drop
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
This is from the protesters. These are the people we saw.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
We saw, we saw we were walking past this protest,
this very sad protest in DC.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Here in Washington, d C.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
At the People's March. We're here with everyone in America
who thinks Joe Scarborough and Mika Prezent's key still have
good on screen chemistry. This diverse crowd covers a full
spectrum of literally every stage of depression the morning.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Look at you guys. You guys are mobilized.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah you don't energized. Yeah you're three.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Months too late.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Thik. If you could just say your name and all
your genders from the camera, please, Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Wow, I'll ask Kelly. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Let's face it, no one here's gonna smash any windows
at the Capitol that would require upper body strength. You know,
eight years ago, in fairness, there were like millions of
people here.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Do you think the numbers of.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Women participating in this march have dropped off because they
don't see themselves represented by the Democrats, or because you
kept talking to them about Deadpool. Seriously, looking around here,
I've never seen so many people worried about losing the
right to contraceptives for purely hypothetical reasons.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, that's Triumph the insert insult comic, comic dog
and the Buck. The fact that they're now making fun
of left wingers is just another sign of the culture shift.
Do you remember people walking around in mainstream media ripping
eight years ago?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Let's make comedians funny again.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Now one, there's breaking news X is about thirty minutes
ahead of most of the major news networks. That's the
experience that people that have really follow it can see
that they're almost always now breaking the news online before
it actually gets to these platforms. I bring this up
play because I just want to have a fun moment here.
Mark zucker A couple of things about Mark Zuckerberg. First
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of all, you know, now now all of a sudden,
he he kind of dresses like he's in a like
a like a nineties music video or something. You know,
he's doing singing like R and B.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's a little bit of a shirt for people having
like black T shirt, like some sort of gold chain
and uh yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Letting his hair out. You know, he's doing jiu jitsu.
I mean, he's going for a whole new Zuckerberg. When
the guy's worth hundreds of billions. I don't even know
what his estimated at work is right now. Money money
is effectively meaningless to him. It has been for a
long time. But first, the thing that I thought was
really interesting and I like, this was well, I was
(30:49):
amused by this. He's throwing Cheryl Sandberg, who was a
big Obama and Hillary booster. I mean Cheryl Sandberg, a
big left wing you know, classic leftist democrat, saying that
all the DEI cultural stuff at Facebook is basically her fault.
Do you see that? Which I think is just great.
He's like, look, it's not on me. He's like Cheryl Sandberg,
(31:12):
who is his former lieutenant, pushed the inclusivity and DEI stuff.
This is in a meeting with Trump, Aids and Mark Zuckerberg.
So he's throwing her under the bus, which is a
good Did you want to weigh in on that?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Or do you want to get to boh.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was just gonna I was gonna say one super
positive thing about Zuckerberg that I don't think gets discussed
from a pure business perspective, right, I disagree with all
the censorship everything else. I believe he has been incredibly
prescient in recognizing which tech companies to acquire to an
extent that's really kind of unbelievable. I mean, he bought
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Instagram before it really kind of took off. He bought WhatsApp,
and I think along with Meta Slash Facebook, those are
basically three of the four biggest sites and or companies
on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, when you have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Hundreds of billions of dollars, you know, it's it's it's
easier to make make good acquisitions when you can write
an unlimited check for anything you want.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
He didn't buy like Fairanos, right Like, I mean, there
are a lot of places that raise a lot of
money that end up being total sort of pyramid scheme collapses.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
So that positive. Now this that you're gonna play having
said that is fun. This is a lot of fun.
A little little known fact, because I don've ever shared
it before. I actually was a licensed bowhunter in the
state of New York. When I was a kid, I
never killed anything with a.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Bow and arrow.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I used to do archery with my dad. He taught
me how to do it. We did tracking in the woods.
I went with him. But I was very young. I forget,
you know, I was probably a young teenager. But I
actually was a licensed bow hunter in the state of
New York for a while. And you know, so you
were killing. Yeah, yeah, I was not quite as good
with a bow and arrow as she is. But archery
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is actually archery is fun. I'm sure a lot of
you and I have done some archery, but at a
very you know, amateur, I would say, dilettant level. So
I just put this out there. But even I could
speak with more authenticity from my archery. Thirty years ago,
Mark Zuckerberg, he went on the Joe Rogan podcast, and
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you really have to listen in. I mean, this is
so classic, it's perfect. Listen to just Zuckerberg here, try
to be the woodsman, the bow hunter extraordinaire play one.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
You know that used to be the way that people
got meat. You had to go hunt it, so you
had to go actually pull the trigger, kill the animal yourself,
cut it up, butcher it, cook it. You knew what
you were doing. Yeah, Well my favorite is bo Bona.
I prefer it because it's it requires more of you.
But yeah, another what kind of boat you have?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Gosh, I didn't get to do it this season, But
do you know the company that makes it?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
No? At the top I had actually have to know. Yeah, no,
this is saying this is embarrassing. I can get you
hooked up. Yeah it works. Okay, you know how old
it is? No, it's it's not old. Okay, I think it's.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
It's like a just a compound bow that I got
strung to my draw length.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And did you get someone to coach you? Yeah? Yeah,
who coached you?
Speaker 9 (34:20):
It's basically a bunch of the guys who who you know,
help run security around the branch?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Can I just it's amazing. I don't know. I don't
know who makes the bow. I don't know what kind
of bow. I don't know who taught me. But bow
hunting is my favorite. But I didn't get to do
it this season. I was This is the kid who
raises his hand to answer the question about the book
that he hasn't read, and then will not back down.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That and also reminds me of the forty year Old
Virgin when Steve Carell is talking about what he likes
about women so much, and everybody is just kind of
looking at him with boobs are like bags of sand, yes,
as he describes what he likes so much about a
female body and and and everybody just kind of gets
weirded out more and more by the questions. Joe Rogan's
(35:09):
credit like he really kind of dove in on it,
and uh and.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Zuckerberg loves loves bow hunting.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
So this would this would be like me sitting here
and saying that, you know, saying to you like, oh man,
I love SEC football and you would be like, oh,
like what's your favorite team? And I'm like the Giants,
you know, like this is.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Not all or all of them? What do you got
to any games this year?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Not this year?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well you know what's first game you went to? Well,
some of the guys told me about it. I mean, yes,
you would think that you would not go all in
on something that you know very little about.
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photos of Clay playing the flute in various stages of
(00:21):
undress and now snuggling with many cats are taking over
the Internet. Clay, I'm just saying the the AI skills
of this audience are far beyond what I anticipated. Very
creative bunch.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I know producer Ali, if she wants to come in,
has been seeing these things like I can't even keep up.
So for people out there who don't know, I have
maybe consistently for a couple of years now made fun
of the idea of people playing the flute, and men
in particular, a.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Lot of you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know who started it, but one of you
out there started using AI to put me playing the
flute in all sorts of different places. Probably a flute player,
probably a flute player Big Flute came after me, and
there are now I mean, I think it's certainly the
case hundreds of different AI generated flute playing pictures of me,
(01:19):
and as Buck said, various states of undress with various
different individuals, some like historic in nature, other I mean
the many of them involving sports.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It really is it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, it really is impressive the degree to which
you guys have used your your wit and creativity to
come up with a lot of these. I find myself
laughing pretty hysterically when I happened to see one. And
then there's always a bevyum. I mean, there are I
would certainly guess over one hundred different me playing the
(01:56):
flute memes that you guys have created that are now
bouncing around the Internet.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
And the end.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Result of this is if I actually went out and
played the flute, Buck, I don't think anybody would actually
believe the picture was real because.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Of my minute that Clay is the James Galway or
the Jean Pierre Rampal of Tennessee. Just throwing that out
there for those of you who are classical musicians. So
we talked about pardons, good pardons that Trump did. At
the beginning of this, I wanted to note that there
was another pardon that was in an ignominious pardon for
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an evil little tyrant smurf.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
The Fouch Tony Fauci. Do you know that Fouch has
had a security detail where he has a limousine that
drives him around and men with guns protecting him twenty
four to seven Clay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
This has been going on for years now, and first
of all, I agree, let me only play this before
we get into the security detail, because Rand Paul was
pushing some of this through. Rand Paul cut twenty one
that Fauci will not be judged well by history. Play it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
History's going to judge him harshly. By accepting that pardon
through Supreme Court precedence, he's actually accepting his guilt, so
he's accepting culpability. He made the decision to bypass and
to avoid the Safety committee to fund this without adequate
review of its safety. He made a terrible decision, but
you have to realize it wasn't a one off. For
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over a decade, Anthony Fauci had said that the risks
of a pandemic occurring were worth the benefit of the knowledge.
Most other scientists disagree with that, but the idea that
we could do anything to any virus and if it escapes.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Oh well, Whoop's too bad. The knowledge is worth it.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I think that Rand Paul might be the certainly the
only elected official who finds Fauci more loathsome than I
find Fauci, which is a very high bar. So I
respect that doctor Rand Paul legit on this issue. And
Clay Fauci's security detail has been pulled. That's the reporting today.
(04:10):
So now he just has to take the millions that
he's worth somehow and pay for his own security detail.
I think it's the right move. I can't I didn't
even realize Fauci had an armed security chauffeur service taking
him everywhere, paid for by the taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I honest question, what should be you worked as a
CIA officer. I think this is a big picture question
because you and I both felt like RFK Junior should
get Secret Service protection, and I feel running for president,
and when he's running for president, people are trying to
like I think if you, I don't know what exactly
(04:44):
the standard should be, But if you're running for president,
I don't have a problem with you getting Secret Service
detail protection.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I think most of you out there would think that
makes sense. Certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think if you're a Supreme Court justice in these
times in which we live on FO Fortunately, I think
you need a security detail. We know somebody tried to
kill Brett Kavanaugh, even though that story totally got buried.
But I think whether you're a left or a right
wing court member or middle of the road, whatever, you
should have a security detail. Secretary of State. I think
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most people out there say, yes, certain levels of government,
you should have a security detail. But you have to
draw the line somewhere. You can't give security details to
every single person in positions of prominence in the United
States government. So where do you draw the line. I'll
give you example.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Personally, he's not even in government anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's right, That's what I'm saying. So if you're not
in government, to me, the government shouldn't be providing you
a security detail. Again, the former president Bill Clinton needs one,
George W. Bush needs one. There are exceptions to the
not being in government rule. But the idea that Fauci
has a full time driver and that he has a
(05:55):
security detail paid for by the United States government seems
absurd to me and to your point, Buck, he has
eleven million dollars in in they say income, he's eighty
years old or sorry net worth. He should be able
to afford his own security detail if security is actually
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that dangerous. I will say this though, if one of these,
like that John Bolton supposedly has got a Roan threats
against him, has lost his security detail, I don't want
us to be in a situation. And this is where
hindsight's always going to look twenty twenty. But we just
saw the United Healthcare CEO get executed on the street
in New York City. It is simultaneously the case that
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most CEOs don't need a security detail to protect them.
It is also simultaneously the case that as soon as
someone acts violently against someone in a prominent fashion, the
worst case scenario like the murder on the cold blood
on the streets, what does everybody immediately say, why didn't
they have a security detail. It's one of those things
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where in retrospect it looks either smart or dumb based
on what ends up happening, as opposed to from the
forward thinking aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
A couple of things about this one. If somebody really
want I mean this is this is chilling, but it's true. Yeah,
somebody with a reasonable someone is.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Committed to killing you.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You are in very bad shape. Even if you have
a security detail. We all saw what happened in Butler,
Pennsylvania to the President of the United States. Some little
lunatic with a rifle almost changed the course of world history. Okay,
And that's with Secret Service snipers everywhere and everything. So
if someone is determined to get you, you're in a
(07:43):
very bad a very bad place. And you know, you
talk about like the United State, even the United CEO
had a security detail for some portion of his day
or his life. If that guy wanted to get him,
he could probably find a way to get him. Another
just a side note if somebody speaking, if somebody wants
to get you, they're gonna come after you in and
they know what they're doing. In the morning, they're gonna
(08:05):
come after you, and that's when your mote, that's when
your patterns are the most established. That's when it's most
likely to know where you are and how you're moving.
So just always be aware because people in the mornings,
I think, oh, it's the morning, and they kind of
you know, the sun's coming, everything's fun. Bad people actually
will come after you in the morning more than they
would like at night. Coming into your home. People are
you know you're coming to my home at night. I
got a lot of guns. Like people are ready at
(08:26):
night if someone if an intruder comes in the morning
walking out to get your paper. I'm just saying, if you,
if you anyone's coming after, if you're ever under threat,
just be aware of it that the mornings are actually
a dangerous time for people. You tend to have slower reaction.
That's just an aside. But on this issue, I mean
for Fauchee to have for because he's gotten death threats
lots of people. He's a private citizen now, lots of people.
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Lets people in the media get death threats.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You've and I.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
We've gotten death threats. Yes, so uh I you know,
I think the people with these security details, it starts
to become a little bit of an excuse to have
a private show first service for or president and former
government officials. Isn't there doesn't a Bolton have a security
detail too? He did?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Trump pulled it, That's what I'm saying, Like that there
have been threats against him in Pompeo from Iran and
supposedly Trump pulled it this week.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I mean, have security on him forever.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I worked with colleagues and counter terrorism who are not famous,
but who were known in certain circles. Let's just say
who ended up on who It was found that they
were on actual like lists.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Get a taxpayer funded security detail. It was you know,
use your trade craft and watch your back, buddy. So
I think this starts to become like I said, for Fauci,
it's just a babysitting service to drive him around everywhere. Uh,
there's not enough of an active threat. He's a former
government official, and lots of people get ticked off with
(09:51):
lots of people who have worked in government. We can't
pay for private security details for all of them. I
just think it's little tyrant King Fauci getting special treatment
because the Democrats suck up to him so much, because
what they don't want to believe is that Fauci is
the worst and everything he did was wrong and he
miserated hundreds of millions of people unnecessarily because he's the worst.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Ran Paul said something interesting, And we always like to
talk not only about what the today history is, but
what the future verdict of history is going to be.
Fauci's over eighty years old. What do you think the
verdict of Fauci is going to be buck in twenty
fifty and twenty seventy, because they will write books about COVID,
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just like the influenza books that you and I read
from the influenza outbreak, the Spanish flu one hundred years ago.
How is he going to look in your life?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
They're going to go full McCarthyism, red scare, and that's
different than what a lot of people think it is
with the COVID thing, meaning they're going to furiously and
feverishly try to rewrite history and not let people realize
that we had effectively like a trial run of state
authoritarianism under COVID, run by the Democrats who were wrong
(11:08):
on everything, who violated the Constitution, who trampled on freedom
of a freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of everything. Basically,
they're going to try to say that, oh, it was
really dangerous pandemic. Then we handled the best we could
with the knowledge we had, and Anthony Fauci was a
dedicated public servant. They're going to try very very hard
because unfortunately the health establishment. It's funny, I've got doctors, Clay,
(11:32):
you know what I got right wing doctors, not a
surprise to anybody. My doctors right wing. I trust them
with my health, I trust them with my politics. The
health establishment, though the health bureaucrats, there is left wing
as journalists. I mean in terms of the aggregate. Like
you look at the numbers, places like the CDC full
of communists, full of ultra left wingers, these NIH full
(11:56):
of ultra left wingers, major hospital systems full, so we
got we got work to do there.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Big time economists too, which is actually sad because you
would think that a lot of economists would be understanding
of the amazing number of left wing economists. I think
my answer on this buck would be because if you're
like a badass in economics, you actually just go work
for a hedge fund or private equity and you end
up making millions and millions of dollars. If you're more
(12:24):
of a theoretical guy political guy, you end up in
a government job where actually you make a pinprike of
what you would make in the I bet if.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You looked at good I bet if you looked at
the number of economists who were Republican in the in
the academy in the nine in the eighties and the nineties,
it was substantially more than we've had in the last
twenty years. I think that I think it was you know,
there there were certainly more Caines versus Milton Friedman back
in the day in the academy. Now for the last
(12:53):
twenty years, combination of things de ei left wing tilt
of the universities, I think they've effectively blocked out anybody
from becoming a conservative economist on campus in a lot
of places. You know, you know, the only places where
you have conservative professors and any real the only disciplines
you have conservative professors and any real numbers, hard numbers
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based math, physics, you know, those are the ones where
you actually get a fair number of conservatives, because it
turns out that you know, in calculus, you want somebody
who actually can get the right answer. That's still a thing.
In political science, you want people actually police, which is
my major poly size. Not as left wing as a
lot of the other humanities. It's kind of middle of
(13:35):
the pack. But oh man, you get into like English,
you know what's sad Clay history, that's the way it
disappoints me, and it makes me sad history has been
overtaken by left wing lunatics. We need some of you
brilliant young people listening to this, you know, to become
great history professors and history you know, history authors. That
stuff actually matters for the future of the country as
much the past.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Massively, how you tell the story of American history in
many ways can define the future. Biden saw that, but
you saw how left wing many of these guys are.
The best Meachum's and the Michael Beschilosus.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I was gonna say, they start trotting out the historians
to explain that the presidential powers and all this other stuff,
and then they all cry about Trump's a fascist. It's
madness Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. I don't even
quite understand how this has happened. But we've been discussing
(14:28):
sanity returning too much of America. It has not, however,
returned to Hollywood yet. The Oscar nominations came out. Can
one of you in the studio send me the Oscar
nomination list. I'm betting that I haven't seen very many
of the movies, if any. I honestly have no idea
(14:50):
what movies would even be nominated, And I bet I
don't know most of the actors or actresses that are nominated.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's my prediction.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there are some movies that are
somewhat popular, but I did see this.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Have you seen the list?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I'm looking at it right now. One of the most
nominations is called Emilia Perez. I've never even I hadn't
heard of this movie till I just read this. Have
you heard of this movie? I had no.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
The only reason, the only reason I know anything about that.
I know nothing much about that movie except that the
woman who's green in Marvel is On is in that movie,
Zoe Saldana, the one from Guardians of the Galaxy that
plays the green superhero. That's the Here's the best Okay,
(15:36):
here are the Best Picture nominees. Buck The staff just
sent them to me. I mean, I'm looking at it
right now. They're Honora the Brutalist, a complete unknown Conclave, Wicked.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I do know.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I didn't go see it, but I know Wicked obviously
based on the book that turned into a play, Dune
Part two. I went and saw that and it was good, good,
So I actually really liked Dune Part two. Encourage people
to go check that out. Amelia Perez Nickel Boys the Substance.
I'm still here. Now, I'm not claiming that I am
(16:14):
an expert in movies, but I like movies. I've only
heard of two of these movies, Wicked and Dune Part two.
Have you seen any of these movies in theater? Any
of the Best Picture nominees. I don't go to movie
theaters anymore. I have a rule about this. Have you
streamed any of them from the comfort of your home?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I've seen do I saw Dune Part two. I like
Dune the first one very much. I've read the book
a long time ago. Yeah, June two was not Christopher
walking as the Emperor was a weird choice. That was
my Look, why Christopher walkin? I just didn't get that.
But oh it's it's pretty good. It also felt a
little too I don't know, a little too like kind
(16:58):
of like a Mid East ripoff to me, But it
was pretty good. It was pretty good. That's the only
one that I've seen to answer any other.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
All Right, So my point on this is they keep
talking about how they want to bring back the oscars
and people are gonna watch and how glamorous Hollywood is,
and there aren't really very many famous movies that everybody
comes together and went and saw of Wicked again and
done two both popular. Otherwise, I bet most of you
are like me, and you don't even know some of
these movies. So they have nominated a man pretending to
(17:29):
be a woman and not like, Hey, what was it
like Tom Hanks back in Bosom Book Buddies or something
back in the day, or Missus Doubtfire's being done? Didn't
he do a show called Bosom Buddies or something too?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I no, I know, but I'm saying, wasn't my what's
his name? That's Dustin Hoffman who did Justin Hoffman and
TUTSI he was dressed as a woman, but that's done?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Or like Missus Doubtfire with Tyler Perry or sorry with
Missus Doubtfire.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
With Robin Williams.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, yeah, and that would be the black version of
Missus Doubtfire, but which exists the Medea movies is basically
Missus Doubtfire except a black woman instead.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
All right, So that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'm not talking about a guy playing a woman for
comedic effect and being nominated for a Best Picture. I'm
talking about a man who has decided that he is
now a woman and has been nominated as a woman.
A man has been nominated as a woman to win
Best Actress, So we now have reached. Not only are
(18:35):
men winning women's championships in sports. Now it is possible
that Hollywood is going to name as a Best Actress
a man who says he is a woman. Again, it's
an acting thing, so I'm not saying a man pretending
to be a woman, who would I guess you'd be
nominated Best Actor?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Is a trans woman?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
A trans woman is what what we're talking about here
has been nominated for best.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Which has never happened to my knowledge before. But you
now have the potential that what is the greatest honor?
I think it's fair to say of any actor or
actress's career to be given an oscar as the best
performing actor or actress in a movie. Now a man
may be the best actress.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, I just also think that this person is not
going to win because their performance as a woman is
not very convincing. I don't even know what the role is.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I see the picture and I'm like, it was it
a trans person that this trans person was supposed to
be playing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I'm not, I don't know it. Maybe in that case
then I suppose I haven't seen the movie, so I
can't speak to it. But to be a best actress,
wouldn't know, Clay, if you were playing a trans person, wait,
hold on a second, it's like we're crossing the streams.
I know it's getting difficult playing a trans woman. Then,
(19:52):
but you would be nominated for the best female like
the best female lead role, right, that's how that would do.
This is like I remember back in the day when
they were trying to teach you how to understand a
sentence and you would get up and have to diagram
diagram it.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
But I need like a diagram here.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
If you are a trans woman, why would you get.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
A Like if you're trans woman, is just a man, right,
I'm trying to visualize this in my head.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So yes, but if you are, if you're a trans
woman and in real in your life, and then you
were playing a trans woman in a uh in the thing,
you're not really playing, do you see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, well, yeah,
you're not really acting. You're not really I thought it
was my point, So I thought you were.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like trying to cancel out exponents or like no, no,
you know using I was trying. I can't even keep
track of where we're going.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
The thing that's so wild about this, and again, women
have to speak out about this because men just don't
allow it to happen. This is important culture. Most of
you can't even name a woman who decided that she
was a man and has attained a level of uh
(21:11):
success in masculine life. I don't mean like just a
normal job. I mean like you are considered to be
in some form or fashion and avatar of masculinity. Masculinity,
it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
There are women who decide to become men, but they
just kind of typically destroy their careers because men are
like just kind of feel like, okay, that's fine, but
we're not gonna make you the avatar of masculinity.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
This is what I was kind of thinking about before.
So the actor actor is Carlos Sophia Gascone, who plays
a drug kingpin who undergoes quote gender affirming you know,
transgender surgery. So but to my point here, it's like
(21:57):
it's kind of cheating, isn't it. You're an actor who's
playing somebody who's trans, like who goes trends, but you
are trans?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Do you see what I mean, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
This is their argument, though, Buck, which is kind of
crazy about this, is they have started to argue that
if you I mean and I can't. This is how
crazy all these rules have become. They have started to
argue that you are not allowed the whole point.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So let's take a step back. What is the whole
point of acting? To pretend to be something that you
are not? Right, That is the essence of acting. That's
all you do. You pretend to be something or someone
that you are not.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They now have started to say, Buck, what you're saying is,
I don't think it would be permissible now for someone
who is not trans to be playing a trans role. So,
in other words, if you what you're saying, if you
were just a regular dude and you're like, hey, I'm
going to play this transactor or actress, it's considered to
(22:53):
be appropriation of the trans role for you to pretend
to be that.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
This is how we've brought everything so full circle. Acting
is about pretending to be something that you are not,
But now you have to pretend to be something that
you are, because to pretend to be something that you're not,
if the thing that you are is a victim class
you are appropriating.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think I think I got that. I think I
got that. Is that is the rules that they have
to apply now such that it's I mean, it's Can
I just tell you something right now? I'm looking I'm
looking at this clay, I'm looking at this right now,
and I'm just I'm a little fired up. All I
have to see is see this guy's hands, and no,
it's a guy. I just it's like the Seinfeld with
man hands, that one. I remember this This actor has
(23:42):
man hands. I mean makes my hands look like dainty
little cabbage patch kid hands. I'm just being honest, and
we're supposed to say this is a woman.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Now, I've never actress. Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Sometimes people are like, I don't know why you're so judgmental?
Can you even tell who the man.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Is that game?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because the answers always yes, yes, Yes, I can tell.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And if someone's saying that you can't tell, they're probably
lying to you. I'm talking about like if you have
you know, like if you have a lineup and you
have three women and one man pretending to be a woman,
I feel like I can go one hundred percent in
picking out the man right against actual women, Like it
(24:23):
doesn't seem very difficult, and a lot of people are
lying to these men and being like, oh, you look
like such a beautiful woman. I just women have to
stand up in Can you imagine if this dude wins
the best Actor?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No heterosexual man sees a man who is trying to
present as a woman and is sexually attracted to that,
because then they wouldn't be a heterosexual man. That's this
is the This is one of that they tried to
start to do this for while. I remember I brought
this up, this was years ago, that it was transphobic
for a straight guy not to be attracted to trans women.
This was a thing for a while. They tried to
(24:56):
push that and and they couldn't get evel In the
sort of mainstream left to go along with that. It
was it was too far. But I just it's funny
because I was looking on my on my computer Clay
as we're doing this, and I had something covering up.
I've got a clock and it's covering up half of
one of these screens, and I'm just looking at this
actor's hands and I'm like, this guy has the hands
(25:19):
of like of a butcher from Pittsburgh. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
He could joke somebody to death easily. A butcher from
Pittsburgh is just such an evocative he can just rip,
just rip, like, uh, the ribs and just shreds. Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
He's like, what are they gonna do with if this guy?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I want somebody to just go full ridiculous, like I
want this guy to win the you know, to win
the Oscar and just admit that he was doing this
all to ridicule to be amazing. If somebody just went
full like juwana man and just said, you guys are
such imbeciles, I would have never won the Best Actor.
(26:08):
But I decided I was going to be a chick,
and now I've got to win.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I read I read the description of this movie. There's
no world in which this movie is not horrible. Just
reading the description.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
It's funny because the New York Times like an amazing
film unlike any other. I'm like, I read the It's
a cartel drug kingpin who becomes trans and then wants
to come back and hang out with his or her
whatever children.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
His children is this.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
A real story?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Or is it totally made up? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean, I would think I'm not an expert on cartels,
but I would think a dude running a cartel who
decided that he was a chick would have a hard
time getting dudes with machine guns walking around.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean to us to producer ally just pointed out
there are musical numbers in this as well. So you
got you know, you got those pigho fun You got
this actor doing jazz hands with his big oven mitz.
You know this big, big ass hands. Imagine that you
were just a business person and I came to you, Buck,
and I was like, hey, I got a brilliant idea.
(27:17):
I'm gonna do a cartel movie. You might be like, Okay,
lots of interest in cartels, violence, drugs, probably a little
bit of sex. Cartel guy's not known for their great
decision making. Okay, I can work with it. And then
I'm like, but the cartel leader decides he's gonna get
his penis chopped off and become a woman, and he's
(27:38):
worried about his relationship with his kids. And it's a musical,
and somebody was like, here's my checkbook, just whatever you need.
This is that you can only make four films.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
At the studio this year. This is one of the
four we have to make. It sounds like just a
mad lib made up idea for a movie Sunday Drop
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
This is from the protesters. These are the people we saw.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
We saw, we saw we were walking past this protest,
this very sad protest in DC.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Here in Washington, d C.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
At the People's March. We're here with everyone in America
who thinks Joe Scarborough and Mika Prezent's key still have
good on screen chemistry. This diverse crowd covers a full
spectrum of literally every stage of depression the morning.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Look at you guys. You guys are mobilized.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah you don't energized. Yeah you're three.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Months too late.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Thik. If you could just say your name and all
your genders from the camera, please, Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Wow, I'll ask Kelly. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Let's face it, no one here's gonna smash any windows
at the Capitol that would require upper body strength. You know,
eight years ago, in fairness, there were like millions of
people here.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Do you think the numbers of.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Women participating in this march have dropped off because they
don't see themselves represented by the Democrats, or because you
kept talking to them about Deadpool. Seriously, looking around here,
I've never seen so many people worried about losing the
right to contraceptives for purely hypothetical reasons.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, that's Triumph the insert insult comic, comic dog
and the Buck. The fact that they're now making fun
of left wingers is just another sign of the culture shift.
Do you remember people walking around in mainstream media ripping
eight years ago?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Let's make comedians funny again.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Now one, there's breaking news X is about thirty minutes
ahead of most of the major news networks. That's the
experience that people that have really follow it can see
that they're almost always now breaking the news online before
it actually gets to these platforms. I bring this up
play because I just want to have a fun moment here.
Mark zucker A couple of things about Mark Zuckerberg. First
(30:06):
of all, you know, now now all of a sudden,
he he kind of dresses like he's in a like
a like a nineties music video or something. You know,
he's doing singing like R and B.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's a little bit of a shirt for people having
like black T shirt, like some sort of gold chain
and uh yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Letting his hair out. You know, he's doing jiu jitsu.
I mean, he's going for a whole new Zuckerberg. When
the guy's worth hundreds of billions. I don't even know
what his estimated at work is right now. Money money
is effectively meaningless to him. It has been for a
long time. But first, the thing that I thought was
really interesting and I like, this was well, I was
(30:49):
amused by this. He's throwing Cheryl Sandberg, who was a
big Obama and Hillary booster. I mean Cheryl Sandberg, a
big left wing you know, classic leftist democrat, saying that
all the DEI cultural stuff at Facebook is basically her fault.
Do you see that? Which I think is just great.
He's like, look, it's not on me. He's like Cheryl Sandberg,
(31:12):
who is his former lieutenant, pushed the inclusivity and DEI stuff.
This is in a meeting with Trump, Aids and Mark Zuckerberg.
So he's throwing her under the bus, which is a
good Did you want to weigh in on that?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Or do you want to get to boh.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I was just gonna I was gonna say one super
positive thing about Zuckerberg that I don't think gets discussed
from a pure business perspective, right, I disagree with all
the censorship everything else. I believe he has been incredibly
prescient in recognizing which tech companies to acquire to an
extent that's really kind of unbelievable. I mean, he bought
(31:46):
Instagram before it really kind of took off. He bought WhatsApp,
and I think along with Meta Slash Facebook, those are
basically three of the four biggest sites and or companies
on the Internet.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, when you have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Hundreds of billions of dollars, you know, it's it's it's
easier to make make good acquisitions when you can write
an unlimited check for anything you want.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
He didn't buy like Fairanos, right Like, I mean, there
are a lot of places that raise a lot of
money that end up being total sort of pyramid scheme collapses.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
So that positive. Now this that you're gonna play having
said that is fun. This is a lot of fun.
A little little known fact, because I don've ever shared
it before. I actually was a licensed bowhunter in the
state of New York. When I was a kid, I
never killed anything with a.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Bow and arrow.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I used to do archery with my dad. He taught
me how to do it. We did tracking in the woods.
I went with him. But I was very young. I forget,
you know, I was probably a young teenager. But I
actually was a licensed bow hunter in the state of
New York for a while. And you know, so you
were killing. Yeah, yeah, I was not quite as good
with a bow and arrow as she is. But archery
(32:58):
is actually archery is fun. I'm sure a lot of
you and I have done some archery, but at a
very you know, amateur, I would say, dilettant level. So
I just put this out there. But even I could
speak with more authenticity from my archery. Thirty years ago,
Mark Zuckerberg, he went on the Joe Rogan podcast, and
(33:19):
you really have to listen in. I mean, this is
so classic, it's perfect. Listen to just Zuckerberg here, try
to be the woodsman, the bow hunter extraordinaire play one.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
You know that used to be the way that people
got meat. You had to go hunt it, so you
had to go actually pull the trigger, kill the animal yourself,
cut it up, butcher it, cook it. You knew what
you were doing. Yeah, Well my favorite is bo Bona.
I prefer it because it's it requires more of you.
But yeah, another what kind of boat you have?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Gosh, I didn't get to do it this season, But
do you know the company that makes it?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
No? At the top I had actually have to know. Yeah, no,
this is saying this is embarrassing. I can get you
hooked up. Yeah it works. Okay, you know how old
it is? No, it's it's not old. Okay, I think it's.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
It's like a just a compound bow that I got
strung to my draw length.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
And did you get someone to coach you? Yeah? Yeah,
who coached you?
Speaker 9 (34:20):
It's basically a bunch of the guys who who you know,
help run security around the branch?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Can I just it's amazing. I don't know. I don't
know who makes the bow. I don't know what kind
of bow. I don't know who taught me. But bow
hunting is my favorite. But I didn't get to do
it this season. I was This is the kid who
raises his hand to answer the question about the book
that he hasn't read, and then will not back down.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That and also reminds me of the forty year Old
Virgin when Steve Carell is talking about what he likes
about women so much, and everybody is just kind of
looking at him with boobs are like bags of sand, yes,
as he describes what he likes so much about a
female body and and and everybody just kind of gets
weirded out more and more by the questions. Joe Rogan's
(35:09):
credit like he really kind of dove in on it,
and uh and.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Zuckerberg loves loves bow hunting.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
So this would this would be like me sitting here
and saying that, you know, saying to you like, oh man,
I love SEC football and you would be like, oh,
like what's your favorite team? And I'm like the Giants,
you know, like this is.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Not all or all of them? What do you got
to any games this year?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Not this year?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well you know what's first game you went to? Well,
some of the guys told me about it. I mean, yes,
you would think that you would not go all in
on something that you know very little about.
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