February 16, 2025 • 31 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The most disappointing part of the super Bowl was definitely
the halftime show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It was really bad. Who would you pick? Well, it's
sorry to cut you off, but if I told you
right now you are in charge of the super Bowl
halftime show, which is typically the most watched part of
the super Bowl, who would you say should be the
artist that would appeal to the largest possible audience and
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do the best possible job. Is there anybody that I've
got two I that come to mind for me? Is
there anybody that comes to mind for you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There are safe There are safe choices. I mean, I
think you could have. I think you'd have you two
do it and they would put on a good show
and nobody. You know, some of you're gonna make fun
of me, but producer Mark is with me. You could
have he knows cold Play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know. It would be kind of a think some
of these guys have done it to be fair? Okay, right?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I see I don't remember, but you know, people of
that sort of stature in the in the music industry.
There are some other names that I would have put
in the mix from the hip hop community, but lately
they're they're having some legal troubles, so I don't I
don't think we're gonna have I you know, I don't
think I don't have to say who, but I think
we all know there's some very big names from the
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hip hop world that are having a tough one legally.
That's putting it mildly. So I think that those would
be you know, this is the thing, it's like, what
are you gonna give me?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Ones that have I mean have the Foo Fighters?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are people great question? As Christopher Walkin says, the Foo Fighters. Yes,
So I would know. I would go Taylor Swift, and
I understand some of the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Ah claim. She has a huge she has a huge
a record list, everybody knows her songs. I am of
the opinion that she has awful politics. But if politics
is your determining factor for who to put out there,
I would say that, you know, ninety percent of musicians
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are out the window. How about secondarily, Morgan Wallan, Morgan
Wallan's been selling out stadiums everywhere. I think he would
kill it. A lot of people know his songs, and
I don't know has Dave Matthews band ever done the
Super Bowl. If you want a completely inoffensive musical guest
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that has sold out stadiums historically, there are three different performers.
I also think this rap in general doesn't translate very
well to stadiums. Kendrick Lamar was awful, but it is
It is a challenge of rap that it isn't that
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easy to watch it in the same way as a band,
as a truly electric singer and and and someone of
that ilk.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean I would I would love to see Bob
Moses do it, but not big enough probably, so that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was a I think that's the last. I don't even
know who Bob Moses is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dude, you should throw some Bob Moses on. They're actually Canadian.
They moved to New York and because of Robert Moses,
the famous builder of New York City, they just wanted
to be very New York so they changed the name
of their band. They named it after Robert Moses. Was
built like the you know, the highways and the bridges
and all these different things, So yeah, that was that
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would be one and then the other one. I would
love to see rufus dusoul do it. But again, this
is very niche. This is more along the lines of
the stuff that I would want to see. And a
lot of you are like, who are those people? So
I understand they're not big enough, but be honest with you,
I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar song in my life.
And I'm actually pretty familiar as a kid who grew
up in the nineties in New York with with like
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big hip hop songs, Like I know all of the
famous hip hop artists from the nineties early two thousands,
all their songs. I'm not saying I celebrate them, but
I do know them. I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar
song before in my life. Ever you had this guy,
did not?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You didn't know anything about the Drake feud, not like
us lawsuits. No, no, for me, I'm actually surprised that
you could just miss the news angle of the Black
Keys ever done the Super Bowl? They would be very good.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I would throw the Black Keys in the mix as
band of horses.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ever done the Super Bowl? They'd be very good. People
would really like them.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It'd be a big, big opportunity. You know, there's all
these ideas, but again, this is like the music of
mine and your jet. Well my generation, I can't speak
for yours. But all right, so what would you say
on a one to ten? We're gonna talk about this
commercial that I thought was the worst?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes? Was there anything that made you laugh in the commercials?
Did you know? Before we get to negative? Was there
anything that you thought was good?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No? I mean, look, I was I had a lot
of people over and we were hanging out, and so
I'm not saying that I watched every single but most
of the commercials I saw, I just couldn't believe that
people spend so much money on them. Was eight million
dollars for thirty seconds is what the.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, plus whatever it costs, that's just how much it
costs to err it. So I mean, they're spending fifteen
million dollars probably per ad.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean I thought, I thought that the ads that
I saw were generally very bad. I can't there was
not a memorable ad. I don't know what happened to
advertising agencies, But.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
This is the one.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This is the ad that I did see live and
I did remember, and it is the NFL airing a
women's flag a pro women's flag football ad. Now we're
not going to air because if you don't see the video,
the audio is not worth it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But we can describe it, right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So it's a it's a it's a minority woman football
player who is up against a bunch of white guys.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Named like Chad and Brad and Chad and Brad.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they're all white and she, you know, schools all
of them is better than them at football. And then
at the end they're like, make flag football varsity sport
in all fifty states. I'm just like, look, why can't
they just show women playing flag football and looking cool?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
All they're doing?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's a commercial, I get that. Why, you know, there
are a lot of undertones in that commercial I didn't
really like. But the one that's the most bizarre is no,
like athletic looking guys named Brad and Chad would actually
annihilate these girls running around with the football, Like this
is dumb? Why we have to be in the land
to make believe?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, and Nike ran an ad that was basically like, oh,
because of sexism, we have like no ability to win
I'm so, and I think the vast majority of you,
both guys and girls, are over this. I'm over the
girl power yay era. If you're a woman, I want
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you to be as successful as you possibly can. If
you're a man, I want you to be as successful
as you possibly can, but cheering for you because of
your gender. This also just happened at ESPN this identity politics.
ESPN on social media shared a picture of Jalen Hurts
and said black excellence. It's not black excellence, it's just excellence. Everyone, white, Black, Asian,
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and Hispanic should aspire to excellence in all facets of
their life. Attributing your excellence to your race or your
gender is I think a sign first of all of
identity politics wokeism. But secondly, it makes you seem inferior
as if that is rare. Right. I don't presume that
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black excellence is rare. I presume that lots of you
who are listening right now and are black are excellent
at your chosen crafts. As I presume and hope that
if you are white, Asian and Hispanic and listening to
me right now, you are either excellent or aspiring to
excellence in your craft. So when you try to put
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race or gender alongside of it, it actually, to me
makes you look inferior because it's trying to celebrate you
for doing something that most people that look like you
do not do. But actually that's all of athletics. Most
of us cannot perform at a high enough level in
football to be in the super Bowl. I wish I
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could have. That's what athletics is, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy.
To then reduce you if your jalen hurts to the
color of your skin when it comes to your achievement,
actually diminishes what you've achieved. In my world, and the
same thing buck when I watch that ad. I think
encouraging girls to play flag football is a really good
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idea personally. I've coached flag football. My boys all played
flag football because we didn't want to put them in
tackle when they were young, and they can learn how
to run routes and ca and you're yanking flags instead
of trying to, you know, hit them and get them
hurt when they're super young. It teaches footwork, it teaches teamwork,
all those things. I think that many women could benefit
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from it, just like many boys can. Many men can.
But the idea that you have to sell me on
the idea of girls are going to be better than
this at boys, that's a lie. It's just not true.
There is no girl or woman that is better in
any sport in the world that I'm aware of than
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a man who plays the exact same sport. And it
actually diminishes the female athlete to try to sell me
on the idea that they are better than the men are,
because I look at it and I say, yeah, that's bs.
They're never going to be better than the men. You
don't have to be better than the men. That's why
men should compete against men and women should compete against women.
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And I just the NFL totally missed the mark to
say nothing of oh minority girl hero Slay Coin. Oh look,
Chad and Brad are white guys and they suck and
they can't achieve anything. I mean, it's just racist and
it's actually demeaning to everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I thought it was a shockingly tone deaf and stupid
commercial from the NFL, But then again, it was a
shockingly horrible and stupid halftime show that the commissioner approved.
I saw someone on Twitter say that the commissioner should
be fired.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I mean, if you can't, if you can't be trusted
to make sure that the super Bowl halftime show isn't
isn't a travesty. Why are you making forty million dollars
a year as the super Bowl coming.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
When you and I are seventy, We're gonna have no
idea whether the super Bowl halftime show is any good
at all, Like, unless you're bringing somebody who's around our
age that we knew as a talented musician. How many
grandpas and grandma's are really plugged in with what sixteen
and eighteen year olds are listening to? I think that's
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kind of a question to me. The biggest issue with
the super Bowl halftime show is it should have a
mass appeal, Like Beyonce is fine, Rihanna is fine, Coldplay
was fine. The Dave Matthews Band, if they were out
there would be fine. Everyone watching should at least vaguely
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know two or three of the songs that they play.
Or you're not famous enough to do the super Bowl
halftime show. We shouldn't be doing targeted niche audiences when
one hundred plus million people are watching it and people
are like upset me. Taylor Swift should totally play the
super Bowl. She plays stadiums all the time. She's amazingly talented.
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Do I think she has awful taste in politics? Yes,
but that doesn't mean that tear Drops on my Guitar
or whatever the heck gets called isn't a really good song,
and that she hasn't released a lot of really good albums.
And let me also say this, if you had to
choose a female artist that you wanted your little girl
to look up to, Taylor Swift is about as good
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as it gets. She hasn't had some major scandal, she
hadn't had a baby out of weblock like in the
grand scheme of things as artists go. She's actually a
somewhat decent role model for a little girls.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I appreciate your passion on this subject, Clay, but I
do think our audience needs to know. They deserve to know.
Would you if Taylor Swift was playing the Super Bowl
halftime show, accompany her shirtless playing the flute?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yes or no? How how you know they do all
these Easter eggs? They had Serena Williams out on the
stage dancing with Kendrick Lamar. How amazing would it be?
Morgan Wallen is a fan, How amazing would it be
if Morgan Wallen was playing and the camera just zoomed
by and in the backdrop you saw me with like
an American flag covered flute and people are like, wait
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a minute, did I just you know the way the
cameras zoom by, You're like, wait, did I just see
Klay Travis with a flute in the middle of the
Morgan Morgan Wallen super Bowl, like just randomly out there,
maybe with a bandana on, maybe shirtless, maybe in a
uh maybe in a a wife beater? Can we still
call them wife beaters? Is that offensive? The tank tops?
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That would be I think hysterical. And and then regardless
of who the artist is, I think that would be
a really funny idea. Yes, I'll give the people what
they want. Did you see the the meme of me
playing the flute that I shared that one of our
one of our audience members grabbed, you guys are hysterical
with the flute memes. I would dominate at a Super
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Bowl halftime show with the flute. I would bring down
the proverbial house. Donald Trump wouldn't have left at halftime
if I had been out there with the flute, I'll
just tell you that much right now, he'd have been like,
we're not leaving the seats. Clay Travis has coming out
with this, you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Get no argument, no argument from me, especially if you
threw on a little bow tie with no shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, like coyote, like a coyote ugly strip uh or
what is that one of those thunder down under thundered
under down under in Vegas? Yeah, totally thundered down under
stripper playing the flute. Oh, that'd be a heck of
a phrase. Gotta be careful there, Sunday, hang with Clay
and Bucks. I think a lot of what's going to
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come out is going to be scandalous about MLK and
JFK in particular, and the surveillance for sure that MLK
was under and I think it's going to cause a
re calibration maybe of his public assessment. And let me
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just say this, because this is one of the things
that you learn about history and why I wish this
nation was not so historically illiterate. Lots of people who
do great things throughout all of history also have really
great flaws. And one of the things that has been
so awful. I think about the woke industrial complex examination
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of American history has been the idea of ceilings and
floors in my mind. Buck to me, for history, you
want to focus more on the great things that people
did that have advanced lives for many than the sordid
things that they did. Doesn't mean you don't acknowledge that
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people have flaws, but when you solely focus on the flaw.
And I'll give you an example, Thomas Jefferson, kind of
a genius, did an awful lot of pretty good things.
May also have slept with a slave, based on the evidence,
and fathered children with her. That doesn't mean the Declaration
of Independence isn't an incredible art. That doesn't mean that
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buying the Louisiana purchase was an incredible stroke of genius.
It doesn't mean that Jefferson wasn't an amazing polymath who
had so much talent in so many different fields. But
he also had a flaw, very.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Wrong on the French Revolution too. Just putting that aside,
you know, he he missed that one by a mile.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just saying he was the former ambassador to France alongside.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You'd think that he'd know more about what's going on
in France.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Alongside Benjamin Franklin. One of the great untold stories to
a large extent of history is the degree to which
their lobbying got France to come in on the side
of the colonies and help us to defeat the British.
I don't hear much talked about now, but when we
trapped Cornwallace at Yorktown, the reason we were to a
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large extent able to do that was because there was
a French fleet off the shore in Virginia that was
helping us to defeat the.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
British, memorably depicted in Mel Gibson's The Patriots. At the
end of the movie, he talks about the arrival of
our friends, the French, and that guy who's the French
actor who plays the French guy in Everything, is like,
we are here finally to take the British away from you.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Gerard Deberdeaux is he you know, Matrios, the jar Dippert
he was the other It's like the poor man Gerard
dip part Due is like who would he be? He's
like the before de Niro went crazy. He's like the
de Niro or the al Pacino. Of French cinema, like
he's kind of in everything long career. Is that fair?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Who would you analogize him to Harrison Ford? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I think the French Harrison Ford. What is happening on
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Today, I'm not I mean, I told you that I
took German and Russian cinema. I don't know that people
expected they were going to turn it to an end
today and we were going to go from JFK to
who is the who is the uh French version of
your American version of Gerard Debordeaux? But we won because
the French were off there on the coast. And my
point on it in general is they reveal some of
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these things from the classified docs file. You're gonna find out,
Oh for people who don't know. JFK and MLK were
into some stuff. And I think Correta Scott King is
still alive, isn't she? Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes? Here's the thing about classified information. This is what
I was getting to before as somebody who used to
handle and see a lot of classified information. Now, the
sensitive stuff that I used to see was very much
about tactical anti terrorism or counter terrorism stuff a rock Afghanistan,
you know, and now that stuff is all you know.
We either got the bad guy or we didn't, and
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that stuff is as largely passed and is we know
all the really cool stuff is known. But Clay, when
if these files, if anyone has had access to these
files for that long and there was anything that interesting
in the files, somebody would have sat down with a
podcaster and said, I have seen what's it? Because no
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one's going to prison for saying what's in the JFK files. Okay,
that's not happening. You violated the JFK. You know that's
not People say, oh, yes, the deep state will there
is a deep state, but it shouldn't be. It's mostly dishonest,
left wing, lethargic and incompetent. It's not this brain that
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can do anything that it wants and can get anything done.
If it was, would Donald Trump be president everybody? Now,
I know they threw everything at him, but I'm saying,
you know, the deep state is not some unstoppable force. Obviously,
So if there was really interesting stuff in the files,
I just think somebody would have come forward and said,
I've seen it, and here's what's in it. But you
don't think a former president would say, hey, guys, we
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actually know who killed JFK. Like if you were there,
if President Clay, it's got kind of a ring to it,
doesn't it. If President Clay, we were able to.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
See a lot of cleavage at that inaugural event, I bet,
by the way, just saying.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean, I could you know, I don't know if
the First Amendment moves is going to be a campaign
slogan of the future, but I can't say it's not
so if you saw that stuff, I just don't think
anybody as president would be able to tell you that
you're not going to talk about that public. But it's
way I feel about UFOs too. Elon and I agree
on UFOs. If there's real UFO stuff, just show me
or just just prove it to me. Stop talking about
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how it's Oh, there's all this evidence, but I can't
show you any actual evidence. So see again, bring out
the wampwomp button. I'm already getting lit up, by the way.
Oh we don't know about this or you don't know
about that? Yeah, yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Speaking of swampwomp. Evidently, Kretta Scott King died almost twenty
years ago. According to the staff, it's better that I
said that she was still alive, then she's dead, and
she's actually alive in the extent, but rest in peace,
Coretta Scott King. I thought she was still alive. I
know the kids, many of them are still alive. And
the reason why I thought she was still alive is
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MLK wouldn't be that old if he were if he
had not, Let's presume that he was still alive. He
was relatively young man when he was assassinated in nineteen
sixty eight. I mean, he wasn't that old of a guy,
so he could MLK still be alive, and I mean
he's younger than Jimmy Carter, for instance.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Which of these releases do you think is going to
be MLK, RFKJFK most if one of them is going
to have something that you go, oh wow, Buck was wrong,
Which would be sad? Which one would it be MLK?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You think, m I think, well, here's why I think
the government surveillance of MLK is more embarrassing to the government,
which is why I think they would be more likely
to have classified more of the MLK file than the
JFK or RFK file. People don't realize, you know this
j Edgar Hoover. The amount of information that he was
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collecting in his tenure. How long was he the head
of the FBI forty years? I mean you look at
his career. The amount of dirt that Jay Edgar Hoover
basically had on any one of any power and prestige
and influence in America from nineteen forty to nineteen seventy five,
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I mean, I think that's basically the range of when
his power would have been at its apex is extraordinary.
So the surveillance of MLK, I'm not I'm sure was
very legal. I think certainly was to a level that
would shame much of the existing FBI. And that's why
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I think it's fought. His file is likely to have
been the most extensively classified and edited to try to
protect what the FBI did, Whereas I think JFK and
RFK Remember RFK and Jaigar Hoover were kind of at
each other's throats because RFK was the Attorney General. Jagger
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Hoover is trying to get the dirt on the Kennedy
family because he wants to have some power and control
over them, and Jaigar Hoover's position is presidents come and go.
I'm here right, like, I'll deal with I mean, he's
a little bit like almost a royal in the sense
or a senator that's going to be around for decades.
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Like he doesn't worry about the eight year term of
a president because he knows he's going to last way
longer than them.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, on the MLK, there's this discussion about ongoing
debate about was he a communist or was he a socialist?
He definitely was into social justice, and I think tenets
of socialism and the communism angle, or the surveillance of
Martin Lutheran juniorists as a sympathetic to communism is always
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taken out of the context of the communist penetration. This
is sort of separate from, but related to, the communist
penetration of the United States government was far more severe
at a far bigger threat than the Democrat Party then
and now is willing to discuss and believe and allow
people to know. And the Communist Party USA was a
real thing, and there were ties to Moscow and the
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Soviet Union, you know, just the way you read the
history of Mao and China, for example, the entire Chinese
Communist project was effectively a laboratory experiment run by the
Soviets out of Moscow. The whole thing was backed finance
directed by and that's now the law ardest country in
the world and the largest communist country in history. So
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they had a playbook for this stuff. Now, it didn't
work in this country, but they were trying to do
similar things. Go read about the Venona Project, high level
penetrations of the United States government, top secret military cable
intercepts proving this beyond doubt. Algerr Hits was a spy.
There's all this stuff. So were they a little too
over zealous in their surveillance of doctor King as a
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communist or a communist sympathizer? Sure? But was communism actually
a real problem and not some you know, make believe
ghost in the background? Yeah, it actually was. So that's
my little spiel on that one.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
We'll take some of your calls, a bunch of you
want to weigh in close out the hour. Also, I'm
gonna have some fun. Buck's gonna have to hop out
in the third out of just FYI so he can
get back to so he can get back to Miami
from Vegas. But we have been laughing. We've been talking
about it off air. The flute memes that you guys
have created of me that is up on AI. I
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can't even keep up with all of them. We're going
to have some fun h discussing some of that. It's Friday,
and we'll take some of your calls about MLKJFK RFK
assassination reports. By the way, if you sign off on that,
do you think the MLK file might have the most
interesting and or significant revelations compared to the other files
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or do you think.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
There's because of the politics and the government embarrassment around that.
I think the JFK files are going to be a
nothing burger. Don't yell at me, everybody, We'll see before
you yell at me, just remember I'll remember all those
of you on Twitter yelling at me. And if I'm right,
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Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sundays with Clay and Buck fuck out in Las Vegas.
How has the shot show been? You're out there? I
know a bunch of our listeners probably have been there before,
or we'll be watching videos about products and everything else.
I mean, I'm actually curious, how big is this thing?
Is it in a convention center? What's it like?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I had never been before and people were shocked for
many years. Now, what do you mean you've never been
to a shot show. It's an incredible event. You know, it's
not really open to the public. It's for people in
the industry or industry adjacent, you know, if you're somebody
who is partnered up like we have with a great
firearms company, Bear Creek Arsenal. I also saw our friends
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at Saber, who make the best non lethal and home
defense products you'll find absolutely anywhere in the market. And
I saw our friends at Rapid Radios. So it's great
to see so many of these companies. So there's a
lot of sort of smaller but innovative companies that are there.
You got the big names, I mean, the big firearms makers.
It's funny. I was talking to a couple of our
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friends from a radio world Clay yesterday said, you know,
I think that Bretta is the oldest continuing operation company
in the world right now. You know Bretta, which I
have a shotgun from Barretta and.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think there's Fretta like how long would the how old.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I was say, I thought it was some sixteen hundreds
actually from the fifteen hundreds, that's how old that company is. Yeah,
so started in Italy in fifteen something or other. So
it's pretty pretty amazing just the heritage of all these
different men, you know, fires manufacturers, great American ones like
in Winchester and Smith and Wesson. So it's a really
cool event and it's great also so many of our people.
(27:33):
I was stopped by so many of our people walking
around who It's kind of funny because I was, you know,
it's a huge mass of folks like wait a second.
They always there's always this mom of like could that
be Buck Sexton? And I'd hear someone say this and
I was like, yes, yes, I just walk around dressed
like I'm on a camping trip like everybody else here.
That's the thing. The shot show uniform is like like
(27:55):
cargo or tactical pants and either a tactical polo or
like fleece. You know a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
What is the expectation in the gun related industry and
guns of what the Trump election is going to mean
for them and their products, because obviously sometimes it's counterintuitive,
like Obama gets elected or by if Kamala had one,
I bet the number of people that would have been
buying guns in November and December would have been off
the charts. I'm just kind of curious what the expectation
(28:25):
is with Trump in office.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, you know, I'd say generally what you're saying is
has been the case where both Obama and Biden were
really national gun Salesmen of the year. Yes, they just
people realize because especially if you want certain rifles. You know,
I saw a rifle yesterday, Clay. It was an AR
fifteen rifle that had a bolt action lever in it,
(28:47):
and I was like, what is that. I've never seen
that before. Oh, that's an Illinois State of Illinois approved AR.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Right, So because otherwise you're shooting too fast and then
closed it down.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's intention to just slow it down and make it
more cumbersome. There's no other reasons. I think what we'll
see is the cultural shift we've talked about. I think
that gun owners and gun rights and I think it's
never been more mainstream, never been a more robust community.
And I think people feel very sort of bullish about
(29:19):
about the future, and it was really everybody a lot
of Trump voters at shot show. That's maybe one way,
so they were to really they're looking at cool new
guns and stuff, and they were all in a in
a very good mood. So it was a really really
good event. I'm glad that it was able to be
out here and see some of our people.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Bucks the worst song that
I have heard in a long time. People say, why
in the world are young voters coming around and ending
up supporting Trump and Republicans more so than in the past.
I would argue Buck, one of the reasons is because
so many leftists are just complete and total dorks. Listen
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to this song and tell me that this is now
the perfect representation of a left wing woman.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Black Indigenous people love color. Black and Indigenous people love color.
Lesbian gay Bye, transgender queer lesbian gay bye, transgender queer.
Asian American Pacific Carlander, Asian American Facific Carlander, Latino Hispanic
(30:33):
Ramanei and Creole Latino Hispanic.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
This is the Remember it's going to turn off the radio.
We gotta stop. I just want to say to everybody,
with your with your amazing AI, do not put Clay
shirtless playing the flute with that music in the background online.
Do not do that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh no, welcome to my mentions for the rest of
the weekend. That is, I do think indicative of kind
of the vibe, for lack of a better word, of
what left wing ideology has led to. And do you
want to be a part of that if you're sixteen
or eighteen.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
No, hopefully she threw creole in there, like are the
creoles having a rough time these days?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
What about Gromanni? I didn't even get that. Is that
like gypsies? Oh, gypsies,
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The most disappointing part of the super Bowl was definitely
the halftime show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It was really bad. Who would you pick? Well, it's
sorry to cut you off, but if I told you
right now you are in charge of the super Bowl
halftime show, which is typically the most watched part of
the super Bowl, who would you say should be the
artist that would appeal to the largest possible audience and
(00:44):
do the best possible job. Is there anybody that I've
got two I that come to mind for me? Is
there anybody that comes to mind for you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
There are safe There are safe choices. I mean, I
think you could have. I think you'd have you two
do it and they would put on a good show
and nobody. You know, some of you're gonna make fun
of me, but producer Mark is with me. You could
have he knows cold Play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know. It would be kind of a think some
of these guys have done it to be fair? Okay, right?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I see I don't remember, but you know, people of
that sort of stature in the in the music industry.
There are some other names that I would have put
in the mix from the hip hop community, but lately
they're they're having some legal troubles, so I don't I
don't think we're gonna have I you know, I don't
think I don't have to say who, but I think
we all know there's some very big names from the
(01:32):
hip hop world that are having a tough one legally.
That's putting it mildly. So I think that those would
be you know, this is the thing, it's like, what
are you gonna give me?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Ones that have I mean have the Foo Fighters?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Are people great question? As Christopher Walkin says, the Foo Fighters. Yes,
So I would know. I would go Taylor Swift, and
I understand some of the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Ah claim. She has a huge she has a huge
a record list, everybody knows her songs. I am of
the opinion that she has awful politics. But if politics
is your determining factor for who to put out there,
I would say that, you know, ninety percent of musicians
(02:22):
are out the window. How about secondarily, Morgan Wallan, Morgan
Wallan's been selling out stadiums everywhere. I think he would
kill it. A lot of people know his songs, and
I don't know has Dave Matthews band ever done the
Super Bowl. If you want a completely inoffensive musical guest
(02:43):
that has sold out stadiums historically, there are three different performers.
I also think this rap in general doesn't translate very
well to stadiums. Kendrick Lamar was awful, but it is
It is a challenge of rap that it isn't that
(03:03):
easy to watch it in the same way as a band,
as a truly electric singer and and and someone of
that ilk.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean I would I would love to see Bob
Moses do it, but not big enough probably, so that.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was a I think that's the last. I don't even
know who Bob Moses is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dude, you should throw some Bob Moses on. They're actually Canadian.
They moved to New York and because of Robert Moses,
the famous builder of New York City, they just wanted
to be very New York so they changed the name
of their band. They named it after Robert Moses. Was
built like the you know, the highways and the bridges
and all these different things, So yeah, that was that
(03:47):
would be one and then the other one. I would
love to see rufus dusoul do it. But again, this
is very niche. This is more along the lines of
the stuff that I would want to see. And a
lot of you are like, who are those people? So
I understand they're not big enough, but be honest with you,
I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar song in my life.
And I'm actually pretty familiar as a kid who grew
up in the nineties in New York with with like
(04:07):
big hip hop songs, Like I know all of the
famous hip hop artists from the nineties early two thousands,
all their songs. I'm not saying I celebrate them, but
I do know them. I'd never heard of Kendrick Lamar
song before in my life. Ever you had this guy,
did not?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
You didn't know anything about the Drake feud, not like
us lawsuits. No, no, for me, I'm actually surprised that
you could just miss the news angle of the Black
Keys ever done the Super Bowl? They would be very good.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I would throw the Black Keys in the mix as
band of horses.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ever done the Super Bowl? They'd be very good. People
would really like them.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It'd be a big, big opportunity. You know, there's all
these ideas, but again, this is like the music of
mine and your jet. Well my generation, I can't speak
for yours. But all right, so what would you say
on a one to ten? We're gonna talk about this
commercial that I thought was the worst?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes? Was there anything that made you laugh in the commercials?
Did you know? Before we get to negative? Was there
anything that you thought was good?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No? I mean, look, I was I had a lot
of people over and we were hanging out, and so
I'm not saying that I watched every single but most
of the commercials I saw, I just couldn't believe that
people spend so much money on them. Was eight million
dollars for thirty seconds is what the.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, plus whatever it costs, that's just how much it
costs to err it. So I mean, they're spending fifteen
million dollars probably per ad.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I mean I thought, I thought that the ads that
I saw were generally very bad. I can't there was
not a memorable ad. I don't know what happened to
advertising agencies, But.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
This is the one.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
This is the ad that I did see live and
I did remember, and it is the NFL airing a
women's flag a pro women's flag football ad. Now we're
not going to air because if you don't see the video,
the audio is not worth it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But we can describe it, right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So it's a it's a it's a minority woman football
player who is up against a bunch of white guys.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Named like Chad and Brad and Chad and Brad.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they're all white and she, you know, schools all
of them is better than them at football. And then
at the end they're like, make flag football varsity sport
in all fifty states. I'm just like, look, why can't
they just show women playing flag football and looking cool?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
All they're doing?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's a commercial, I get that. Why, you know, there
are a lot of undertones in that commercial I didn't
really like. But the one that's the most bizarre is no,
like athletic looking guys named Brad and Chad would actually
annihilate these girls running around with the football, Like this
is dumb? Why we have to be in the land
to make believe?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, and Nike ran an ad that was basically like, oh,
because of sexism, we have like no ability to win
I'm so, and I think the vast majority of you,
both guys and girls, are over this. I'm over the
girl power yay era. If you're a woman, I want
(06:53):
you to be as successful as you possibly can. If
you're a man, I want you to be as successful
as you possibly can, but cheering for you because of
your gender. This also just happened at ESPN this identity politics.
ESPN on social media shared a picture of Jalen Hurts
and said black excellence. It's not black excellence, it's just excellence. Everyone, white, Black, Asian,
(07:18):
and Hispanic should aspire to excellence in all facets of
their life. Attributing your excellence to your race or your
gender is I think a sign first of all of
identity politics wokeism. But secondly, it makes you seem inferior
as if that is rare. Right. I don't presume that
(07:42):
black excellence is rare. I presume that lots of you
who are listening right now and are black are excellent
at your chosen crafts. As I presume and hope that
if you are white, Asian and Hispanic and listening to
me right now, you are either excellent or aspiring to
excellence in your craft. So when you try to put
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race or gender alongside of it, it actually, to me
makes you look inferior because it's trying to celebrate you
for doing something that most people that look like you
do not do. But actually that's all of athletics. Most
of us cannot perform at a high enough level in
football to be in the super Bowl. I wish I
(08:26):
could have. That's what athletics is, right, It's the ultimate meritocracy.
To then reduce you if your jalen hurts to the
color of your skin when it comes to your achievement,
actually diminishes what you've achieved. In my world, and the
same thing buck when I watch that ad. I think
encouraging girls to play flag football is a really good
(08:49):
idea personally. I've coached flag football. My boys all played
flag football because we didn't want to put them in
tackle when they were young, and they can learn how
to run routes and ca and you're yanking flags instead
of trying to, you know, hit them and get them
hurt when they're super young. It teaches footwork, it teaches teamwork,
all those things. I think that many women could benefit
(09:12):
from it, just like many boys can. Many men can.
But the idea that you have to sell me on
the idea of girls are going to be better than
this at boys, that's a lie. It's just not true.
There is no girl or woman that is better in
any sport in the world that I'm aware of than
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a man who plays the exact same sport. And it
actually diminishes the female athlete to try to sell me
on the idea that they are better than the men are,
because I look at it and I say, yeah, that's bs.
They're never going to be better than the men. You
don't have to be better than the men. That's why
men should compete against men and women should compete against women.
(09:53):
And I just the NFL totally missed the mark to
say nothing of oh minority girl hero Slay Coin. Oh look,
Chad and Brad are white guys and they suck and
they can't achieve anything. I mean, it's just racist and
it's actually demeaning to everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I thought it was a shockingly tone deaf and stupid
commercial from the NFL, But then again, it was a
shockingly horrible and stupid halftime show that the commissioner approved.
I saw someone on Twitter say that the commissioner should
be fired.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I mean, if you can't, if you can't be trusted
to make sure that the super Bowl halftime show isn't
isn't a travesty. Why are you making forty million dollars
a year as the super Bowl coming.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
When you and I are seventy, We're gonna have no
idea whether the super Bowl halftime show is any good
at all, Like, unless you're bringing somebody who's around our
age that we knew as a talented musician. How many
grandpas and grandma's are really plugged in with what sixteen
and eighteen year olds are listening to? I think that's
(11:01):
kind of a question to me. The biggest issue with
the super Bowl halftime show is it should have a
mass appeal, Like Beyonce is fine, Rihanna is fine, Coldplay
was fine. The Dave Matthews Band, if they were out
there would be fine. Everyone watching should at least vaguely
(11:22):
know two or three of the songs that they play.
Or you're not famous enough to do the super Bowl
halftime show. We shouldn't be doing targeted niche audiences when
one hundred plus million people are watching it and people
are like upset me. Taylor Swift should totally play the
super Bowl. She plays stadiums all the time. She's amazingly talented.
(11:44):
Do I think she has awful taste in politics? Yes,
but that doesn't mean that tear Drops on my Guitar
or whatever the heck gets called isn't a really good song,
and that she hasn't released a lot of really good albums.
And let me also say this, if you had to
choose a female artist that you wanted your little girl
to look up to, Taylor Swift is about as good
(12:06):
as it gets. She hasn't had some major scandal, she
hadn't had a baby out of weblock like in the
grand scheme of things as artists go. She's actually a
somewhat decent role model for a little girls.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I appreciate your passion on this subject, Clay, but I
do think our audience needs to know. They deserve to know.
Would you if Taylor Swift was playing the Super Bowl
halftime show, accompany her shirtless playing the flute?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yes or no? How how you know they do all
these Easter eggs? They had Serena Williams out on the
stage dancing with Kendrick Lamar. How amazing would it be?
Morgan Wallen is a fan, How amazing would it be
if Morgan Wallen was playing and the camera just zoomed
by and in the backdrop you saw me with like
an American flag covered flute and people are like, wait
(12:53):
a minute, did I just you know the way the
cameras zoom by, You're like, wait, did I just see
Klay Travis with a flute in the middle of the
Morgan Morgan Wallen super Bowl, like just randomly out there,
maybe with a bandana on, maybe shirtless, maybe in a
uh maybe in a a wife beater? Can we still
call them wife beaters? Is that offensive? The tank tops?
(13:14):
That would be I think hysterical. And and then regardless
of who the artist is, I think that would be
a really funny idea. Yes, I'll give the people what
they want. Did you see the the meme of me
playing the flute that I shared that one of our
one of our audience members grabbed, you guys are hysterical
with the flute memes. I would dominate at a Super
(13:35):
Bowl halftime show with the flute. I would bring down
the proverbial house. Donald Trump wouldn't have left at halftime
if I had been out there with the flute, I'll
just tell you that much right now, he'd have been like,
we're not leaving the seats. Clay Travis has coming out
with this, you.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Get no argument, no argument from me, especially if you
threw on a little bow tie with no shirt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, like coyote, like a coyote ugly strip uh or
what is that one of those thunder down under thundered
under down under in Vegas? Yeah, totally thundered down under
stripper playing the flute. Oh, that'd be a heck of
a phrase. Gotta be careful there, Sunday, hang with Clay
and Bucks. I think a lot of what's going to
(14:16):
come out is going to be scandalous about MLK and
JFK in particular, and the surveillance for sure that MLK
was under and I think it's going to cause a
re calibration maybe of his public assessment. And let me
(14:36):
just say this, because this is one of the things
that you learn about history and why I wish this
nation was not so historically illiterate. Lots of people who
do great things throughout all of history also have really
great flaws. And one of the things that has been
so awful. I think about the woke industrial complex examination
(14:58):
of American history has been the idea of ceilings and
floors in my mind. Buck to me, for history, you
want to focus more on the great things that people
did that have advanced lives for many than the sordid
things that they did. Doesn't mean you don't acknowledge that
(15:18):
people have flaws, but when you solely focus on the flaw.
And I'll give you an example, Thomas Jefferson, kind of
a genius, did an awful lot of pretty good things.
May also have slept with a slave, based on the evidence,
and fathered children with her. That doesn't mean the Declaration
of Independence isn't an incredible art. That doesn't mean that
(15:42):
buying the Louisiana purchase was an incredible stroke of genius.
It doesn't mean that Jefferson wasn't an amazing polymath who
had so much talent in so many different fields. But
he also had a flaw, very.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Wrong on the French Revolution too. Just putting that aside,
you know, he he missed that one by a mile.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just saying he was the former ambassador to France alongside.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You'd think that he'd know more about what's going on
in France.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Alongside Benjamin Franklin. One of the great untold stories to
a large extent of history is the degree to which
their lobbying got France to come in on the side
of the colonies and help us to defeat the British.
I don't hear much talked about now, but when we
trapped Cornwallace at Yorktown, the reason we were to a
(16:31):
large extent able to do that was because there was
a French fleet off the shore in Virginia that was
helping us to defeat the.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
British, memorably depicted in Mel Gibson's The Patriots. At the
end of the movie, he talks about the arrival of
our friends, the French, and that guy who's the French
actor who plays the French guy in Everything, is like,
we are here finally to take the British away from you.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Gerard Deberdeaux is he you know, Matrios, the jar Dippert
he was the other It's like the poor man Gerard
dip part Due is like who would he be? He's
like the before de Niro went crazy. He's like the
de Niro or the al Pacino. Of French cinema, like
he's kind of in everything long career. Is that fair?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Who would you analogize him to Harrison Ford? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I think the French Harrison Ford. What is happening on
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Today, I'm not I mean, I told you that I
took German and Russian cinema. I don't know that people
expected they were going to turn it to an end
today and we were going to go from JFK to
who is the who is the uh French version of
your American version of Gerard Debordeaux? But we won because
the French were off there on the coast. And my
point on it in general is they reveal some of
(17:44):
these things from the classified docs file. You're gonna find out,
Oh for people who don't know. JFK and MLK were
into some stuff. And I think Correta Scott King is
still alive, isn't she? Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes? Here's the thing about classified information. This is what
I was getting to before as somebody who used to
handle and see a lot of classified information. Now, the
sensitive stuff that I used to see was very much
about tactical anti terrorism or counter terrorism stuff a rock Afghanistan,
you know, and now that stuff is all you know.
We either got the bad guy or we didn't, and
(18:19):
that stuff is as largely passed and is we know
all the really cool stuff is known. But Clay, when
if these files, if anyone has had access to these
files for that long and there was anything that interesting
in the files, somebody would have sat down with a
podcaster and said, I have seen what's it? Because no
(18:40):
one's going to prison for saying what's in the JFK files. Okay,
that's not happening. You violated the JFK. You know that's
not People say, oh, yes, the deep state will there
is a deep state, but it shouldn't be. It's mostly dishonest,
left wing, lethargic and incompetent. It's not this brain that
(19:01):
can do anything that it wants and can get anything done.
If it was, would Donald Trump be president everybody? Now,
I know they threw everything at him, but I'm saying,
you know, the deep state is not some unstoppable force. Obviously,
So if there was really interesting stuff in the files,
I just think somebody would have come forward and said,
I've seen it, and here's what's in it. But you
don't think a former president would say, hey, guys, we
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actually know who killed JFK. Like if you were there,
if President Clay, it's got kind of a ring to it,
doesn't it. If President Clay, we were able to.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
See a lot of cleavage at that inaugural event, I bet,
by the way, just saying.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean, I could you know, I don't know if
the First Amendment moves is going to be a campaign
slogan of the future, but I can't say it's not
so if you saw that stuff, I just don't think
anybody as president would be able to tell you that
you're not going to talk about that public. But it's
way I feel about UFOs too. Elon and I agree
on UFOs. If there's real UFO stuff, just show me
or just just prove it to me. Stop talking about
(19:57):
how it's Oh, there's all this evidence, but I can't
show you any actual evidence. So see again, bring out
the wampwomp button. I'm already getting lit up, by the way.
Oh we don't know about this or you don't know
about that? Yeah, yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Speaking of swampwomp. Evidently, Kretta Scott King died almost twenty
years ago. According to the staff, it's better that I
said that she was still alive, then she's dead, and
she's actually alive in the extent, but rest in peace,
Coretta Scott King. I thought she was still alive. I
know the kids, many of them are still alive. And
the reason why I thought she was still alive is
(20:29):
MLK wouldn't be that old if he were if he
had not, Let's presume that he was still alive. He
was relatively young man when he was assassinated in nineteen
sixty eight. I mean, he wasn't that old of a guy,
so he could MLK still be alive, and I mean
he's younger than Jimmy Carter, for instance.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Which of these releases do you think is going to
be MLK, RFKJFK most if one of them is going
to have something that you go, oh wow, Buck was wrong,
Which would be sad? Which one would it be MLK?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You think, m I think, well, here's why I think
the government surveillance of MLK is more embarrassing to the government,
which is why I think they would be more likely
to have classified more of the MLK file than the
JFK or RFK file. People don't realize, you know this
j Edgar Hoover. The amount of information that he was
(21:27):
collecting in his tenure. How long was he the head
of the FBI forty years? I mean you look at
his career. The amount of dirt that Jay Edgar Hoover
basically had on any one of any power and prestige
and influence in America from nineteen forty to nineteen seventy five,
(21:49):
I mean, I think that's basically the range of when
his power would have been at its apex is extraordinary.
So the surveillance of MLK, I'm not I'm sure was
very legal. I think certainly was to a level that
would shame much of the existing FBI. And that's why
(22:10):
I think it's fought. His file is likely to have
been the most extensively classified and edited to try to
protect what the FBI did, Whereas I think JFK and
RFK Remember RFK and Jaigar Hoover were kind of at
each other's throats because RFK was the Attorney General. Jagger
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Hoover is trying to get the dirt on the Kennedy
family because he wants to have some power and control
over them, and Jaigar Hoover's position is presidents come and go.
I'm here right, like, I'll deal with I mean, he's
a little bit like almost a royal in the sense
or a senator that's going to be around for decades.
(22:52):
Like he doesn't worry about the eight year term of
a president because he knows he's going to last way
longer than them.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, on the MLK, there's this discussion about ongoing
debate about was he a communist or was he a socialist?
He definitely was into social justice, and I think tenets
of socialism and the communism angle, or the surveillance of
Martin Lutheran juniorists as a sympathetic to communism is always
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taken out of the context of the communist penetration. This
is sort of separate from, but related to, the communist
penetration of the United States government was far more severe
at a far bigger threat than the Democrat Party then
and now is willing to discuss and believe and allow
people to know. And the Communist Party USA was a
real thing, and there were ties to Moscow and the
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Soviet Union, you know, just the way you read the
history of Mao and China, for example, the entire Chinese
Communist project was effectively a laboratory experiment run by the
Soviets out of Moscow. The whole thing was backed finance
directed by and that's now the law ardest country in
the world and the largest communist country in history. So
(24:04):
they had a playbook for this stuff. Now, it didn't
work in this country, but they were trying to do
similar things. Go read about the Venona Project, high level
penetrations of the United States government, top secret military cable
intercepts proving this beyond doubt. Algerr Hits was a spy.
There's all this stuff. So were they a little too
over zealous in their surveillance of doctor King as a
(24:26):
communist or a communist sympathizer? Sure? But was communism actually
a real problem and not some you know, make believe
ghost in the background? Yeah, it actually was. So that's
my little spiel on that one.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
We'll take some of your calls, a bunch of you
want to weigh in close out the hour. Also, I'm
gonna have some fun. Buck's gonna have to hop out
in the third out of just FYI so he can
get back to so he can get back to Miami
from Vegas. But we have been laughing. We've been talking
about it off air. The flute memes that you guys
have created of me that is up on AI. I
(25:04):
can't even keep up with all of them. We're going
to have some fun h discussing some of that. It's Friday,
and we'll take some of your calls about MLKJFK RFK
assassination reports. By the way, if you sign off on that,
do you think the MLK file might have the most
interesting and or significant revelations compared to the other files
(25:25):
or do you think.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
There's because of the politics and the government embarrassment around that.
I think the JFK files are going to be a
nothing burger. Don't yell at me, everybody, We'll see before
you yell at me, just remember I'll remember all those
of you on Twitter yelling at me. And if I'm right,
the Buckster is coming back for you. Sunday hang is
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Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sundays with Clay and Buck fuck out in Las Vegas.
How has the shot show been? You're out there? I
know a bunch of our listeners probably have been there before,
or we'll be watching videos about products and everything else.
I mean, I'm actually curious, how big is this thing?
Is it in a convention center? What's it like?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I had never been before and people were shocked for
many years. Now, what do you mean you've never been
to a shot show. It's an incredible event. You know, it's
not really open to the public. It's for people in
the industry or industry adjacent, you know, if you're somebody
who is partnered up like we have with a great
firearms company, Bear Creek Arsenal. I also saw our friends
(26:29):
at Saber, who make the best non lethal and home
defense products you'll find absolutely anywhere in the market. And
I saw our friends at Rapid Radios. So it's great
to see so many of these companies. So there's a
lot of sort of smaller but innovative companies that are there.
You got the big names, I mean, the big firearms makers.
It's funny. I was talking to a couple of our
(26:51):
friends from a radio world Clay yesterday said, you know,
I think that Bretta is the oldest continuing operation company
in the world right now. You know Bretta, which I
have a shotgun from Barretta and.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think there's Fretta like how long would the how old.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I was say, I thought it was some sixteen hundreds
actually from the fifteen hundreds, that's how old that company is. Yeah,
so started in Italy in fifteen something or other. So
it's pretty pretty amazing just the heritage of all these
different men, you know, fires manufacturers, great American ones like
in Winchester and Smith and Wesson. So it's a really
cool event and it's great also so many of our people.
(27:33):
I was stopped by so many of our people walking
around who It's kind of funny because I was, you know,
it's a huge mass of folks like wait a second.
They always there's always this mom of like could that
be Buck Sexton? And I'd hear someone say this and
I was like, yes, yes, I just walk around dressed
like I'm on a camping trip like everybody else here.
That's the thing. The shot show uniform is like like
(27:55):
cargo or tactical pants and either a tactical polo or
like fleece. You know a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
What is the expectation in the gun related industry and
guns of what the Trump election is going to mean
for them and their products, because obviously sometimes it's counterintuitive,
like Obama gets elected or by if Kamala had one,
I bet the number of people that would have been
buying guns in November and December would have been off
the charts. I'm just kind of curious what the expectation
(28:25):
is with Trump in office.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, you know, I'd say generally what you're saying is
has been the case where both Obama and Biden were
really national gun Salesmen of the year. Yes, they just
people realize because especially if you want certain rifles. You know,
I saw a rifle yesterday, Clay. It was an AR
fifteen rifle that had a bolt action lever in it,
(28:47):
and I was like, what is that. I've never seen
that before. Oh, that's an Illinois State of Illinois approved AR.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Right, So because otherwise you're shooting too fast and then
closed it down.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's intention to just slow it down and make it
more cumbersome. There's no other reasons. I think what we'll
see is the cultural shift we've talked about. I think
that gun owners and gun rights and I think it's
never been more mainstream, never been a more robust community.
And I think people feel very sort of bullish about
(29:19):
about the future, and it was really everybody a lot
of Trump voters at shot show. That's maybe one way,
so they were to really they're looking at cool new
guns and stuff, and they were all in a in
a very good mood. So it was a really really
good event. I'm glad that it was able to be
out here and see some of our people.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Bucks the worst song that
I have heard in a long time. People say, why
in the world are young voters coming around and ending
up supporting Trump and Republicans more so than in the past.
I would argue Buck, one of the reasons is because
so many leftists are just complete and total dorks. Listen
(29:57):
to this song and tell me that this is now
the perfect representation of a left wing woman.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Black Indigenous people love color. Black and Indigenous people love color.
Lesbian gay Bye, transgender queer lesbian gay bye, transgender queer.
Asian American Pacific Carlander, Asian American Facific Carlander, Latino Hispanic
(30:33):
Ramanei and Creole Latino Hispanic.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
This is the Remember it's going to turn off the radio.
We gotta stop. I just want to say to everybody,
with your with your amazing AI, do not put Clay
shirtless playing the flute with that music in the background online.
Do not do that.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Oh no, welcome to my mentions for the rest of
the weekend. That is, I do think indicative of kind
of the vibe, for lack of a better word, of
what left wing ideology has led to. And do you
want to be a part of that if you're sixteen
or eighteen.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
No, hopefully she threw creole in there, like are the
creoles having a rough time these days?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
What about Gromanni? I didn't even get that. Is that
like gypsies? Oh, gypsies,
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