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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
The number one go to move of women everywhere anytime
there is an argument.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What is it? What have you learned? Tone policing?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, women are really good I don't like your tone?
Number one go to? Do men really ever get to
play that I don't like your tone angle? I feel
like women have just totally co opted that line of
attack in all arguments. Men never really get to play
the tone. Women are really good at the tone argument.
But I know because also if you put your hands
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on your hips and you cock your head to the
side and say I don't like your tone like that,
you automatically win the argument, apparently. But I think it's
tough for guys to do the hands on the hips
routine and be taken serious. I'm curious, are there any
men out there that have won successfully by telling their
wives that they don't like their tone or girlfriend? I
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will say you can reach out to us. I would
love to hear about your victory. Do if somebody told you, Clay, theoretically, theoretically,
you know, you're yelling, and you're like, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
How do you deal with that one?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
First of all, I've heard that this is a common,
common deployed argument. I've heard two of her friends, sources,
sources have told me before this, don't raise your voice
when you're talking like this. I'm like, that's just how
I talk. I do a radio show. Well, you and I,
I think are somewhat disadvantaged because we do have booming,
booming voices.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
My oldest son, my oldest son.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Also has a voice like me, and the other my
wife has complained about, like I'm on the phone and
you can hear me throughout the whole house, and I
just think that I'm talking normally, like voice does tend
to carry.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't whisper well.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So I do think there's some element of success and
probably going after us for tone and also loudness, because
we are kind of loud. But I would love to
hear from men who have successfully flipped the script.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I've never done it. Maybe somebody has pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Maybe you're like the I don't know the hell Mary,
the Doug flutie of tone arguments like you've somehow hit
a hell, Mary go in the opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I don't know now. The reason I bring this.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
All up is I do think when you look at
the way that you handle yourself, if you just say
calm and measured while someone else is screaming at you,
even if they otherwise have some legitimate arguments to make,
a lot of people don't go into the particulars of
the argument. They just analyze the body language and also
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just the body chemistry of those interactions. And I think
they have overwhelmingly favored the nominees in terms of how
they've handled it.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, and you know what works really well?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I find when you're arguing with a female who is
your girlfriend, wife, any of the above, just tell her
really definitively calm down.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, calm down, calm down, golm down. Winnerfully.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If anyone has successfully flipped the tone into a calm
down argument, win, then that goes that goes really well.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Let's have some fun here.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
By the way, Joy Behar who I have buck, tell
me if you agree with this on my power rankings
of stupidity on the view number one with a bullet
and like there's nobody even close to her. Now, Sonny
Hostin by far the dumbest person on the view, And
I mean I don't even think there's a close second.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
To be fair, Wait wait.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You you think you think that Joy Behar would beat
Sonny Houston in like a general knowledge or IQ test.
I think that she would beat her in a reasonableness test,
which is really like my my measure. I'm not saying
Joy Bahar is a better speller than Sonny Hostin, or
that she knows more state capitals. By the way, I
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humiliated myself yesterday, Buck, I didn't know what the capital
of Missouri was. Do you know what the capital of
Missouri is? Without looking it up? Don't look down at
your and your not I you could, you could. I
got put on the spot over this because my fourth
grader we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Do you know the capital of Missouri?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, I'm just gonna go with good old Saint Louis.
I could be wrong, not a bad guess. I said, Columbia, Missouri,
which is where the University of Missouri is. I thought
that was the capital. Does anybody in studio without looking
it up? Ali producers, anybody else know the capitol of Missouri.
This is like a fourth or fifth grade staple of knowledge.
I was out to lunch and I wouldn't have gotten
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a book you could have given me, Like a lot
of guesses it is. Does the team know Springfield is
the guest? That's Illinois, that's close. Look it is Jefferson City.
Oh no, would you have ever got to you? I mean,
I'm smoked on that. I wouldn't have gotten that since
I had to memorize them in the fifth grade or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, I apologize, apology to me. I'm gonna tell you
right now.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I think I could nail like you know, Montana, Helena,
like New York, obviously, all of it. Like I go
through all these days I do, I'd be pretty good,
you know, I'd even get.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Some of the some of the funky ones. What about
in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Capital of Kentucky, Man Clay, this is rutal. There are
some that I know this because it's a border state
with mine. So sos Missouri. I should have gotten that,
but I I knew this back in the day. Do
you know the capital of Kentucky?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It should be sorry to apologize to Kentucky. Nice win
you swamp to my Tennessee volunteers yesterday, it should be
Louisville or Lexington, both very fine cities. In fact, Lexington's fabulous,
buck Frankfurt, Kentucky, Like did you even know?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah again, So I'm not sure who would win a
state capitol battle between sunny Houston and between Joy Bahar.
I'm not gonna throw any stones on that right now.
I gotta tell you state capitals in a very time
I had either. I got lit up for saying the
capital of Missouri was Columbia. I just I totally thought,
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I know, the capital of South Carolina's Columbia. I thought
both of them were Columbia's. I totally with there. I
understand if you can't trust us anymore, here is Joy Behar,
who may be better at state capitals than us, but
is almost certainly dumber in many other respects. Saying Caroline Levitt,
new White House Press Secretary, only got her job because
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she's good looking. Listen, She's probably been put in there because,
according to Donald Trump, she's the ten.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You know that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, that is pretty That's a pretty nasty attack
the day after you do your job. On the one hand,
it's a compliment she's pretty, she's good looking.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Buck. You know this.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You dated in New York for a long time. There
are a lot of very pretty morons. Uh, and and
just being attractive, you get. I can't confirm with that
going into any detail beyond that, yes, But I can
also tell you, first of all, the irony of being
on a TV set where there are women whose appearance
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is in some cases definitely a huge factor in why
they massive massive job set. Reason they have that job correct,
you know, and especially the younger ones at that table,
it is it is disproportionately their looks that have gotten
them there in the first place. If Sonny Hostin Buck
had the exact same talent, I'm gonna put myself.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I won't. I won't throw you under the bus here.
I'll just say it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
If Sonny Hostin weighed two hundred and fifty pounds on
the view and had every other characteristic the exact same
about herself, she would have no media career at all.
She would not make a single dollar in media if
she weighed two hundred and fifty pounds and had every
other exact same characteristic. My point, when you're on television,
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cosmetics is a part part of it. But the day
after Caroline Levitt dominates the media. For Joy Bayhart to say, oh,
the only reason she has her job is because Donald
Trump thinks she's good looking is super insulting.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But she's also really good.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
She's also obviously very good at her job and very
adept at what she's doing. So it's just clearly not true.
You know, Fox News, for example, has had a long
string of women who have been on air who are
very just very good looking and very capable. Right, these
two things go together. We're in a competitive world, and
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the TV world is particularly competitive, and having those two
characteristics is pretty much a requisite for being a TV anchor.
You've got two radio guys here, I'm just telling I
was just gonna say, I don't want to brag on
us too much. We're actually good looking for radio guys.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The standard to be fair for radio guys is very low.
I told Buck this. He's been in a couple of
press boxes. Sports writers are some of the ugliest, fattest,
least attractive people on the planet. You walk through a
press box like the super Bowl press box when it's
going to be being played next weekend, it looks like
the bar scene in Star Wars. There's a lot of
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freaking ugly dudes in there, a lot of fat people,
a lot of guys who look like they haven't, you know,
walked a mile in ten years. The standard for media
jobs is not necessarily always super attractive.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Radio guys.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You walk through radio row where I'll be next week,
there are a lot of guys who have not been
out in the sun in twenty five years. It's interesting
because they talk about sports, but most of them could
not actually jog a mile. That is the general reality.
But Caroline Levitt dominated yesterday. She ran for Congress and
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almost one in New Hampshire, having to go into all
those different town halls everything else. It's a sign of
how successful she was that after day one, the attack is, oh,
she's only there because she's good looking. Well, and they
would if she were a Democrat they would say, isn't
she so amazing? And she'd be on the cover of
Vogue in a couple of months. I mean, so we
all know that this is just it's just bitterness of
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coming from political political disagreement. But I also am excited
to see the shakeups that will be coming to that
White House press room. You might be seeing some of
you out there, a couple of your favorite radio hosts
at some point making an appearance there, you know, just
to sort of shake things up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Have you been in the White House Press briefing room
ever for a briefing at all?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Not for a briefing, though I've only I've walked in
to see it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's actually a very small room, as many television rooms
appear bigger on television. There's not a lot of space
in there. But I've never actually watched a press briefing.
I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, I mean, run might be over. Oh fuck, I
would do on doing.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
If you told me right now, I could do any
job for one day. I think being White House Press
Secretary and getting to field every question and answer to
that would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, that would be fun.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I just mean being one of the you know, eighty
people screaming to people.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They're like me, me, me, me, me, trying to ask
you a question. I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Press conferences in general. I've been in a lot of
them for sports. And if you think the White House
Press briefing is bad, imagine the people had half the
IQ that's what a sports press briefing is.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like, I always thought it was weird.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Also, whenever I have been I spent a fair amount
of time on Capitol Hill, and you the the gaggle
that will follow around some center or something as they're walking.
When you're actually there, you're like, it's like it's like
kids chasing the teacher, Like can I get extra credit?
Like it's not very weird. It's a very kind of
it's kind of undignified when you're there. I'm just telling
you the truth. It's not cool.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck Clay.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You gotta stop saying we're looking for radio guys. People
are testing out this theory. They're like, I don't know,
there's let me just put it out there this way.
Who is infinitely better looking than us, like you put
us side beside and there's no doubt that is on radio. Now,
some TV guys are on radio. That's cheating. I'm talking
about they are radio guys. It's not very many good
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looking radio guys. Again, I'm not saying we're great looking.
I'm saying by the standard of radio guy, we're good
looking for radio guys. Fair enough, well, CC this is
from Toledo. A listener there is throwing some shade at
us in Toledo, Ohio. Play it clearly the good look
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part of this must be why you two are on
the radio of the show.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
First of all, it's a dude whoa like He decided
as a dude that he needed to weigh on.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Wait, you know whether we're good looking or not for
radio guys, Like when it was CEC and Toledo, I
thought we were gonna get lit up by a chick,
not a dude who's like you guys aren't good looking enough. Well, no,
that was just that was just the code for the
U to call it on the call, Missseas. He didn't
get he didn't give us a name. I mean, look,
we're no Bill Malugians over here.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Let's just say that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But I'm clearly not even trying to argue that if
Malujin had a radio show, he would be off the
charts hot for radio.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Clay would insist that Malugion do it without a shirt
on sometimes on the radio. Oh he should, mallusion should
do the whole show and a bathing suit. I think
you should report from the border in a bathing suit.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Good guy.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You realize what the AI is going to look like
now for the next twenty four hours play do you
realize what you have done?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But you never know?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
In Ballujin might need to strip down and go save
somebody in the Rio Grand he should be in a
bathing suit at all times, shirtless and a bathing sit.
Do you remember, by the way, when they put our
friends Will Caine and Pete Hegseth, they did like because
they're super macho, like badass guys, Like they swam from
like the Statue of Liberty back to back to the
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Manhattan Yeah, and they did a whole They did their
whole morning show shirtless with microphones, and I just remember
all the memes and everything else. And then heg Seth
when he got nominated for Defense secretary, a lot of
the stuff. People were attacking him. They're like, why do
we need somebody this disrespectful And then a lot of
women were like, I mean, this is the best look
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at Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Of all time.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So anyway, never know when Mallugit might need to save someone.
I don't think it's a bad move to have a
bathing suit be ready. I think he'd probably be a
great lifeguard too, really good looking radio guy, great savior
in the in the water.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm gonna get us.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Back on track here with the RFK hearings in a moment,
and we are not going to talk about rfk's abs.
Clay off the table, RFK shirtless, good looking guy, better
looking than us, shirtless. I'll tell you that Sundays with
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Not a huge surprise.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Davy Crockett kind of a big deal in Texas, got
to catch up Tennessee, Florida, California said they out number
They outnumbered the Tennessee. And I think Tennesseean's passion for
Davy Crockett might might match that of our Texans. But
there's a lot more Texans. There are a lot more Texans.
We're coming up on what twenty five million Texans ish,
so about four times as many Texans as Tennesseeans. Although,
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to be fair, Texas would not exist without the volunteers
from Tennessee, including Davy Crockett. But if you are a
history nerd like me, it's true. If you are a
history nerd like me, you'd know that. You know that
the Battle of San Jacinto, won by former Tennesseean Sam Houston,
was instrumental to Texan independence. And it came right after
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the Alamo, and they yelled, remember the Alamo as they
whipped the Mexicans. This's gonna be some there's gonna be
some Texans making Alamo clay flute playing meme.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Now, it's definitely happened.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
The Alamo would be a tough one alongside of Santa Anna.
Fun fact on Santa Anna Buck he lost a leg
in a battle and would go visit his leg, which
was put in like a pure like whatever you would do,
you would preservative, I guess back in the day because
he missed his leg. Kind of a weird dude, Santa
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Anna from Aldehyde. What do you put your leg in
back in the day, That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
In the eighteen thirties, what would they have put the
leg in to not allow it to completely disintegrate or whatever?
He had his leg amputated and would visit it, probably
for mald to hide. That's like the guy Lord Stanley.
I think, wasn't it Stanley who they pickled and put
into the barrel after he died on the ship, and
then brought him back to England so they could bury him.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I got a lot of esoteric.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
From aldehyde was discovered in eighteen fifty nine by Russian
chemist Alexander Mikhailovich Butlarov, so it had to be something
before for male high Ye, maybe it was just alcohol.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't know what they put it in.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
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Speaker 2 (17:22):
Sunday drop with Clay Buck.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I have one VIP. Yes, this is a history nerd VIP.
I want to give credit to our buddy who wrote
this in and said VIP. Scott probably did not expect
to hear about bodies getting pickled in the eighteen hundreds
on the program today. But Scott said, and I don't know,
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I don't remember the tape. I think I got this right,
but he said, Admiral Nelson was killed at the Battle
of Trafalgar. His remains were put into a cask of
rum to preserve it for proper bits in England. The
cask was put into the general hold. The sailors tapped
into the cask to drink the rum. Henceforth, the rum
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was named Nelson's Blood. That was British thing I've ever heard,
the famous admiral in a cask of rum and then
the sailors drink it. I mean, can we just eat
The British guys listening like, oh yeah, that's really British,
you know, like they're not going to deny that. And
now one of the most famous places in London is
Trafalgar Square.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Some of you may have visited there.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
They have the statue of Admiral Nelson in the center
of Trafalgar Square. And I think I connected him to
Santa Anna, who it must be rum or something that
his leg was preserved in that he would go visit
after his leg was amputated. So there you go. A
bunch of knowledge there, but the VIPs. This is a
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great example a lot of history nerds in this audience book.
Whatever you or I talk about immediately people react to
it and dellss, even when it's something super specific like that, which, probably,
to be fair, is not something super widely known. The
good news is that all of you will never let
us get away with saying a single historically inaccurate thing
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on this show.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Ever, it's true.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
That's we don't have to worry about a real time
fact checker because all of you, one of you will
be like, excuse me, you said seventeen ninety nine and
you actually meant seventeen ninety eight because and fill in
the blank, and you say to yourself, wow. You guys
do a lot of reading, and you listen very closely,
which we appreciate so as we well know, because I
can't pronounce anything correctly, and trust me, every time I
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mispronounce any word, I get emails about it. I'm just
going to keep on throwing a lot of cash in
your direction. As we talk about cash. Patel's hearing tomorrow
cash like money, cash, all right, We're going to get
that one. That one's easy, So we keep going cash. Well,
I think that's actually the way it should be pronounced,
not to all good look at this, look at this
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culturally SENSI I think in the Yeah, I mean, we
got Indian community out there listening. I think it's actually
Kosh Patel and he has pronounced it cash because it
is a cooler kind of name. But Kash, I think
traditionally in the Indian community would actually be cash. I've got,
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for instance, a really good law school friend named a Kash,
and I think that that's the way it would actually
be pronounced. Now, is cash a cooler way to pronounce it? Probably,
but that would be spelled c ash as in cash cash.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Eventually, maybe I'll get it right.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Maybe when he gets confirmed, we'll have him on I
will ask him if he thought that that pronunciation was
cooler and that's how it came to be. I mean,
it's good to know that if Senator Travis were up
there on Capitol Hill, he would give Cash a long
exposition on the various ways that he could choose as
a member of the South Asian diaspora into America and
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as an American to pronounce his name. How about me
maybe knowing the way that the South Asian community would
actually pronounce that. I think I deserve credit given that
I mispronounce everything. I actually think I'm pronouncing that one correctly,
and he's changed the pronunciation. Clay getting a lot of
high fives from our Indian American listeners, So thank you
so much for that