May 25, 2025 • 22 mins
A girl named Zoe. Dire wolves making a comeback?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It starts now. Okay, So we've talked a lot about
this on the program. Young men, Young women, the failure
to get married, not having as many kids historically, young
men overwhelmingly now voting Trump, young women overwhelmingly voting Kamala.
I want you to listen to this woman, this Zoe,
who is explaining she was dating a man from Indiana.
(00:38):
She calls him a redneck. He says he's independent. He
says he is socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And that is this is what you say when you
want to when you want to spend some time with
the crazy lib chick. You know, you say, I'm a
socially liberal but fiscally conservative anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But I do think this is probably something that maybe
you and your own life are experiencing, or you're kids
or grandkids are dealing with. This failure of men and
women to come together. There is a seismic gap when
it comes to politics, and this chick, I'm gonna be
out honest. Sounds completely and utterly awful, but you can
judge for yourself. Here's Zoe explaining relationship status when it
(01:17):
comes to politics.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Everyone knows that I'm a liberal woman. My brother's gay,
all my friends are gay. Also like abortion rights, female rights. Eh.
But anyways, so I would like always ask him. I'd
be like, what, like, what's your politics? Like who do
you where do you lean?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And he was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, like, socially I'm a liberal, but economically I'm a Republican.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That okay.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Also, he's a twenty eight year old man. That's the
first red flag because if there's a twenty eight year
old man and he's single, there's a reason that he's single.
But anyways, so then I'm like, well, like, what makes you,
you know, economically republican? Because like, I could give you
a whole bunch of facts right now that proved that
you shouldn't be. And he was like all of his
infos from his friends, and I was like, you get
all your information from your friends, You can't trust them.
(02:01):
You need to do the research yourself. And if you
do the research, I told him, I was like, I'll
support you based on your decision if you actually research
it yourself, Like I won't care if you're a Republican.
But anyways, and so he was like, Zoe, I have
much better things to do than research politics. Like I
have way more important things.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
To do, Clay, I'm having flashbacks to first dates in
New York over many, many years of being a single guy,
and this this mentality of I'm sorry, I just know everything,
and like, why do you think you know anything about politics?
And like abortion rights, gay rights, women's rights, like just
the whole thing. This is what it's like to be
(02:37):
in a major Democrat urban center and out on the scene.
And this guy, whoever he is from Indiana, he dodged
more bullets than Neo in the matrix. I mean, he
is so lucky that this did not work out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I watched the whole video that you posted because I was,
you know, doing prep this morning, and I so, first
of all, this is a little bit ties in with
what I talked about at the University of Chicago, the
thing that went megaviral. I think a lot of these
twenty something year old women, I don't know how old
she is, twenty four to twenty five. First of all, everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Always older, that she looked older than that. To me, no,
you think older. Well, she was saying he was twenty eight.
I was assuming that she was probably within a couple
of years of him. Maybe she's older than maybe she's
also twenty eight or whatever. But twenty eight is not
that old, by the way, for a guy to be single.
I'm not sure that it is a major red flag.
If she had said forty eight, he's never been married,
I'd be like, you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Know, maybe maybe he got a little bit of an
art nothing against twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, there are there are sixty eight year old guys,
usually with boats here in Miami who are going out
with twenty eight year old So I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But I do think if you're a girl and the
guys in his mid forties and he's never gotten married,
probably a little bit of a red flag in general.
Now you didn't get how old.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Are you go? Maryirl Clay Travis getting a little uh
dancing around the minefield here a little bit funny. You know,
some of us I did to just wait, We didn't
just get We didn't have the love of our life
fall into our lap. In law school, some of us
had to go out there and you know, hunt for
a while.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So twenty eight, thirty eight, whatever, But let's go here
to the essence. I am a little bit sympathetic because
I think a lot of twenty young twenty somethings are morons.
And you'll look back on some of the things that
you thought when you were twenty or twenty five or
fifteen or whatever the age is when you get to
be forty five or fifty or sixty, and you'll say, boy,
(04:32):
I was really dumb. I didn't have the life experience
to have learned enough. She I think is and I
think a lot of women are setting themselves up for
this way. They are thinking that they want a man
that is one type of man, and they're either not
going to be able to find that guy, or maybe
(04:53):
even worse buck, she's going to find this effeminate, left
wing loving man and she's actually gonna end up hating him.
Because I'm just telling you, I don't believe there are
any women out there that actually want to end up
with feminine men. I don't believe that kind of category
(05:14):
of women exists. I think they claim that they do,
and then they realize that they're basically living with another
woman and he's emotionally unstable, and he's not manly, and
they don't have a loving relationship because what they don't
They don't want somebody who is similar to them. They
(05:36):
want an actual man, and they don't know it well
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It all adds up, and yes, I do have trauma,
trauma from many years of being in New York City
and trying to convince usually very attractive but very left
wing women on dates. I'm sort of leaving libertarian these days.
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
By the way, I will say this too, how many
of those girls do you think you could have eliminated
if you didn't see them? Because when I listen to
that girl, as opposed to watch her, she's kind of cute.
If I just listen to her, I'm like, I would
I want to get a nail gun and just put
it into my head rather than have to listen to this.
But I think there are a lot of men out there,
(06:16):
maybe the vast majority of them, that are willing to
put up with awfulness beyond belief because the girl's pretty, Like,
if you just had to listen to her, oh of course,
you would be like, I'll never go on a date
with this girl.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I see this and I don't think this is controversial.
Though people pretend like this isn't necessarily true. We all
know it's true. Women make bad decisions about their or rather,
women are blinded by and then make bad decisions because
of men's money and status and men. I'm speaking in
the greatest of generalizations here, but men make bad decisions
(06:48):
and are blinded because of women's attractiveness. Okay, that is
I was just speaking about the guys who are in
their sixties with the boat with the big fancy boats
here and the twenty five year old girlfriends by the way,
in Miami Beach. That's not the like happening everywhere. Yeah,
it's like, this is not something that anybody even really
notices is happening all over the place. But yeah, the
guy who owns the boat, you gotta spend time with them.
That's the thing, you know. It's the it's the Bill, Bill,
(07:11):
the Bill Belichick, Clay, they're going full full Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I mean, I think it actually makes sense biologically right,
because women again biologically are driven primary.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But I think about it. I mean, and it's gonna
be a head of Clay Travis, you know, Caveman. Women
are driven by a desire for security and uh and
health and safety and success for their offspring. And the
wealthier and more powerful man can theoretically provide that right.
So biologically that makes sense. And men like young women
(07:44):
because young women are more likely to be able to
have babies. This is why we all exist. Sorry, that's
my big take, Clay, Yeah, this is this is accurate.
But okay, So the ideology though, notice she lays out
all these things her far left politics. Part of it
is toxic masculinity, alpha manliness. All of those things are
(08:09):
contrary to her political beliefs. So if you are an
alpha male who, let's say, believes in even things that
are not necessarily that political, but things like differentiation of
the sexes, that men should be protectors, that men are
generally going to be bigger and stronger, that men should
be the primary earner in the household, any of those
(08:31):
sorts of things are going to run a foul of
her beliefs. And so that's why she's going to be, oftentimes,
I think, miserable trying to find and this is her
slash all women that have similar beliefs to her, because
they are excluding as a matter of politics, the kind
of man that women are generally biologically geared toward liking.
(08:55):
And at the end of the video, which we didn't
play with you, she's like, and I've been thank well
ever since. That sort of the funniest because like, yeah,
no surprise, you've been single ever since. But it is
in fact highly ideological white women age call it, you know,
twenty to forty five in America, who are really now
(09:16):
the base of the Democrat Biden Kamala party. That's who
they can count on. And if they went to start
college educated white women twenty to forty five, college educated
is an important component because that's when the indoctrination happens,
and that's when they learn all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They also often are ending up single now, and this
is what we were talking about with doctor Laura, Like,
remember she got really fired up. These are also the
women sometimes that want to have children and they go
to sperm donors and instead of being able to find
a man that they could actually have a relationship with,
they're flipping through binders trying to find guys that they
(09:55):
can you know, have a baby with, that they never
meet and that their kids have no relationship with. And
I think they're just making a series of bad choices,
but because they have made those choices themselves, they oftentimes
need larger societal issues to have created those choices for them. Right, Like,
(10:15):
it's almost like their security blanket is the world is
so misogynistic and awful that I have no other option.
Some of these women are gonna get married, and by
the time they have babies, they'll look back on themselves
and say, boy, I was a moron. By the way,
a lot of men get married look back on themselves
and say, boy, you know I was kind of a
moron too. I mean, I think that's the common trajectory.
(10:38):
It's why age adds wisdom, because you have lived through
every life experience and you can analyze it better at
fifty than you could at fifteen. And so I hope
that some of this is going to happen. But the
other thing is like posting these videos, does she think
that this makes her look really likable? Because are there
(10:59):
other women that are like Slay Queen? Yes, girl like
Actually to me, I watched the video and I just
felt sorry for her, and it made me find her
profoundly unlikable. Sunday Drop with Clean Buck. There are reports
this was the Time magazine cover that we have brought
back a company has. I read all about this yesterday.
(11:21):
I was fascinated by it yesterday afternoon. The dire Wolf,
which is a bigger wolf than the traditional wolf, has
been thanks to using DNA code, A company is saying
they have brought the dire wolf back from extinction after
ten thousand years. Now, many of you are going to
(11:43):
be familiar with the idea of the dire Wolf because
you watched Game of Thrones, and the wolves in that
Game of Thrones multi year saga grew into gigantic killing
machines from small puppies. So I wanted to dive into
this buck back in the day when you and I
(12:05):
were young. The book before they made the movie Jurassic
Park by Michael Crichton. The entire concept is that they're
able to take the DNA of the dinosaurs from these
if I remember correctly, Mosquito's Frozen and Amber, and that
they are then able to extract that DNA to create
new dinosaurs. And obviously the Jurassic Park franchise in terms
(12:29):
of movies, has remained incredibly durable and powerful for thirty
some odd years because lots of people remain fascinated by
dinosaurs in general. Lots of little boys, although not lots
of little girls too. I remember, I think you said
your nephew knows everything about dinosaurs. When I was a
little kid, I knew everything about dinosaurs. There is a
(12:49):
great deal of interest still obviously in the Jurassic Universe.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes, and there are other species that could already be
I think, aren't they working on Mastadon's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Or the wooly mammoth for sure made me a mastadon.
The wooly mammoth, I think is basically going to happen.
In the article that I read, they are going to
bring back the saber tooth tiger.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They are they're going to bring back So so my question,
I'm fascinated by what the reaction of this audience too
good or bad? And let me give you a question
to think about this book. I was just out in
Colorado over spring break, and I bet we have a
lot of people listening in Colorado right now. And I
know this has turned into a major issue all over
the West. They have reintroduced wolves in lots of states
(13:39):
and communities where the wolf had basically been eradicated. And
if you have a ranch. Ranchers are furious about this
because suddenly what I was told I was in Colorado.
They're like, yeah, everybody in Boulder and Denver decided they
wanted to vote to bring back wolves, and all the
people who live in rural Colorado are like thanks. Jerks like,
(14:01):
we have no interest in bringing back wolves, and suddenly
our livestock are getting killed and we're having to worry
about something that we had eradicated. My thought is, now,
these dire wolves, there are three of them that they
say they have brought back, two boys and a that
they named Romulus and Remus and one girl Pop Will
they like in Jurassic Park, eventually find their way out
(14:25):
and then they're suddenly circulating in the community. They say
that the dire wolf basically covered all of North America
back in the day ten thousand years ago. If you
were out, this thing was from Canada all the way
down into South America. They basically roamed free. They were
wiped out about ten thousand years ago. What is your
(14:47):
take on the idea, not only of the dire Wolf,
Saber too, tiger, wooly mammoth being bringing back extinct animals
good or bad move?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's your take.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, I love the book Jurassic Park, as all of
you know, and so I find this a fascinating entry
into the scientific annals that is going on right now.
I think that, man, the truth is this the same
way that you know, I've never been to I've never
been to Africa, but I love knowing that there's all
(15:18):
these incredible I'm sorry, I have been to Africa. That's
not true, but I've never been on safari in Africa,
but that I've been to places where there are no safaris.
They've been in some rough parts of Africa, but I've
never done safari. But I love knowing that there are
lions and hippopotami and all that stuff. So I think
that it's tough for us to separate out the concept
(15:38):
of it. This is why when you brought up the ranchers,
I think that's very afro Po the concept of it
versus the reality of it. You know, a saber tooth
tiger is fine until a saber too tiger eats your
grandma and then you're pretty in This actually came up
if you you remember when this, I think it was
Cecil the Lion was the big story and Jimmy Kim
(15:59):
they killed, yes, And it was like him was like
crying on TV about Cecil, the lion in Africa who
on a lawful hunt was shot.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, it's like Cecil the light is crying and look,
I love animals, so I get that. And there's something
that's you know, like I love my little dog Ginger
so much, and yet I'm gonna eat lamb Shops right
for dinner. Like I understand some of this stuff. We
get a little it's about sentimentality over pure logic. Okay,
But that all said, there was a really interesting Wall
Street Journal article that I remember from that time, written
(16:32):
by I think he was a student at Harvard or Princeton,
who was like, you know what lions mean in my village? Yeah,
I read people get eaten. Yeah, like this isn't a
game to us, Like we actually have to control the
population because they'll eat your dad, they'll eat your sister,
Like you know, this is a real thing that happens
to real people, which reminds me of that movie Ghost
(16:53):
in the Darkness, based on a true story. And I
know you all know this, and you can go see
the stuffed carcasses of those lions, and I'm in a
zoo and I'm in a museum in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Wasn't Val Kilmer in that movie?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That just yeah? Yeah, it was a Valkilmer movie with
with Michael Douglas. Kind of a weird casting of Michael Douglas,
but anyway, Val Kilmer was good in it. And that's
based on a true story. I mean, these lions became
habituated to eating people and they're like, wow, people are
slow and kind of weak, Like, let's just eat them instead.
So this is all a way to say I think
(17:25):
for you know, should we bring back dodo birds?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Totally, like should we bring back species that? But you know,
this is where you also get into clay. I'm here
in South Florida and you have the boa constrictors and
and also, uh, what do you call them? The big
they look like little dragons on iguanas. Yeah. Yeah, and
(17:49):
and they are invasive. Well, BoA's are definitely an invasive species.
I think iguanas are two. I don't think they're native
to hear. They're basically pets that have escaped and now
they're killing all the native h you know, ecosystem animals off.
So you have to go hunt them and deal with them.
True thing. Also, you know that little brown bird that
you guys all think of, the European house sparrow, probably
(18:11):
the most common bird in the entire United States everywhere,
a little kind of brown squat bird. They're an invasive
species from Europe and they'll they have killed off a
lot of native bird species because they will break into
another bird's nest and break their eggs. They're mean, they're
mean little birds.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The honeybee is an invasive species.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, but we like honeybees.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
This is gu is the point, right, We like that
honey But people don't realize this. North America, until colonization,
had no honeybees anywhere, and then they slowly spread across
the entirety of the North American continent. But they were
a invasive species that otherwise didn't exist here.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Some of you will remember this too. There was a
fear about fire ants and how they're going to keep
spreading up and spreading up, and you know they're they're
you know, dangerous to people if you step on one
of their ant hills. And there was a briefly discussed
proposal that I remember reading about the only real, real
natural predators for the fire ants. They were thinking maybe
we should introduce it's a South American ant eater, which
(19:15):
has like six inch long claws and weighs like two
hundred pounds. And then they're like, well, if we introduce that,
what's its natural predator jaguars? So you create all these problems,
the food chain gets dangerous. Okay, So I am in
favor of this. Here is my thing gets a pet?
Yes or no? Once they reintroduced you no, no, no. I'm
(19:38):
in favor of it only for keeping them in captivity.
And I understand some of you are going to say, yeah,
that's the whole point of Jurassic Park. But I like
it also for endangered species now, because in theory, it
would mean there should be no animal that actually vanishes.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Right. You should be able to get the existing DNA
of all all animals that are alive on Earth today,
and we should be able to create a genetic Noah's
Arc of all living animals here today and be able
to create them. Now, I don't want if I'm a
I think about this in terms of the farmers out
(20:17):
there and the ranchers. The idea that you would reintroduce
grizzly bears or wolves that are going to attack my livestock.
Is I think different than this. I would nothing else
produce these animals.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Something else that that would be on the on the
docket here go. Uh, I believe it's I believe it's
called a short faced bear. Go look up the short
faced bear and it's like a grizzly bear times three.
It's a massive land predator. Uh. That they could also
along with the saber it's from the same era as
a saber tooth tiger. They could also bring that one back.
(20:54):
And I think that you know, you're starting to see
we definitely don't want that, right, I mean, that's that's
gonna be the same way that polar bears hunt people.
It's really the only North American land animal. Yeah, I know,
grizzlies can wolf has never actually attacked it. Healthy wolves
have never attacked the human being in the history of
North America. Is at least what you that's what they announced.
(21:15):
I mean, you're gonna say no, but that's what they say. Okay,
that's what the official statistics are that wolves won't attack
people if they're healthy. If they're a rabid, that's different.
Polar bears see you and they're like food food they don't.
There's no offens or butts, and the same thing would
be true of a short face bear, so you know,
mean something the thing Let me hit you with this
one buck. My boys are obsessed with the megalodon, which
(21:37):
is just a giant shark. In theory, the dire wolf
can be kept in inside of a fenced enclosure and
everything else. My concern on this would be that we
would start to create big, massive animals that are in
the water, and those are a lot harder to control.
(21:57):
Have you ever been to, say, for instance, the Atlanta
Aquarium where they have the whale sharks. You know they've
never been able to, for instance, keep I believe this
is still true a great white shark in captivity. They
just they're impossible to keep inside of museums or aquariums
anything like that. My concern is that some of these
that we will create will get out and can you
(22:19):
imagine a world where suddenly you have instead of a
great white shark, you've got the megalodon suddenly like rolling
around in the ocean deep. That starts to get a
little bit scarier to me. But I think it's the
reality of where we are going. I think you're going
to see all of these extinct animals genetically us able
to bring them back. Now, one more thing. As we
(22:41):
go to break, some people are saying this is not
the real animal because of the way they're doing the
DNA coding, and that gets way more complicated and above
my pay grade. But I have read some of those critiques.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It starts now. Okay, So we've talked a lot about
this on the program. Young men, Young women, the failure
to get married, not having as many kids historically, young
men overwhelmingly now voting Trump, young women overwhelmingly voting Kamala.
I want you to listen to this woman, this Zoe,
who is explaining she was dating a man from Indiana.
(00:38):
She calls him a redneck. He says he's independent. He
says he is socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And that is this is what you say when you
want to when you want to spend some time with
the crazy lib chick. You know, you say, I'm a
socially liberal but fiscally conservative anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But I do think this is probably something that maybe
you and your own life are experiencing, or you're kids
or grandkids are dealing with. This failure of men and
women to come together. There is a seismic gap when
it comes to politics, and this chick, I'm gonna be
out honest. Sounds completely and utterly awful, but you can
judge for yourself. Here's Zoe explaining relationship status when it
(01:17):
comes to politics.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Everyone knows that I'm a liberal woman. My brother's gay,
all my friends are gay. Also like abortion rights, female rights. Eh.
But anyways, so I would like always ask him. I'd
be like, what, like, what's your politics? Like who do
you where do you lean?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And he was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, like, socially I'm a liberal, but economically I'm a Republican.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That okay.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Also, he's a twenty eight year old man. That's the
first red flag because if there's a twenty eight year
old man and he's single, there's a reason that he's single.
But anyways, so then I'm like, well, like, what makes you,
you know, economically republican? Because like, I could give you
a whole bunch of facts right now that proved that
you shouldn't be. And he was like all of his
infos from his friends, and I was like, you get
all your information from your friends, You can't trust them.
(02:01):
You need to do the research yourself. And if you
do the research, I told him, I was like, I'll
support you based on your decision if you actually research
it yourself, Like I won't care if you're a Republican.
But anyways, and so he was like, Zoe, I have
much better things to do than research politics. Like I
have way more important things.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
To do, Clay, I'm having flashbacks to first dates in
New York over many, many years of being a single guy,
and this this mentality of I'm sorry, I just know everything,
and like, why do you think you know anything about politics?
And like abortion rights, gay rights, women's rights, like just
the whole thing. This is what it's like to be
(02:37):
in a major Democrat urban center and out on the scene.
And this guy, whoever he is from Indiana, he dodged
more bullets than Neo in the matrix. I mean, he
is so lucky that this did not work out.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I watched the whole video that you posted because I was,
you know, doing prep this morning, and I so, first
of all, this is a little bit ties in with
what I talked about at the University of Chicago, the
thing that went megaviral. I think a lot of these
twenty something year old women, I don't know how old
she is, twenty four to twenty five. First of all, everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Always older, that she looked older than that. To me, no,
you think older. Well, she was saying he was twenty eight.
I was assuming that she was probably within a couple
of years of him. Maybe she's older than maybe she's
also twenty eight or whatever. But twenty eight is not
that old, by the way, for a guy to be single.
I'm not sure that it is a major red flag.
If she had said forty eight, he's never been married,
I'd be like, you.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Know, maybe maybe he got a little bit of an
art nothing against twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, there are there are sixty eight year old guys,
usually with boats here in Miami who are going out
with twenty eight year old So I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But I do think if you're a girl and the
guys in his mid forties and he's never gotten married,
probably a little bit of a red flag in general.
Now you didn't get how old.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Are you go? Maryirl Clay Travis getting a little uh
dancing around the minefield here a little bit funny. You know,
some of us I did to just wait, We didn't
just get We didn't have the love of our life
fall into our lap. In law school, some of us
had to go out there and you know, hunt for
a while.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So twenty eight, thirty eight, whatever, But let's go here
to the essence. I am a little bit sympathetic because
I think a lot of twenty young twenty somethings are morons.
And you'll look back on some of the things that
you thought when you were twenty or twenty five or
fifteen or whatever the age is when you get to
be forty five or fifty or sixty, and you'll say, boy,
(04:32):
I was really dumb. I didn't have the life experience
to have learned enough. She I think is and I
think a lot of women are setting themselves up for
this way. They are thinking that they want a man
that is one type of man, and they're either not
going to be able to find that guy, or maybe
(04:53):
even worse buck, she's going to find this effeminate, left
wing loving man and she's actually gonna end up hating him.
Because I'm just telling you, I don't believe there are
any women out there that actually want to end up
with feminine men. I don't believe that kind of category
(05:14):
of women exists. I think they claim that they do,
and then they realize that they're basically living with another
woman and he's emotionally unstable, and he's not manly, and
they don't have a loving relationship because what they don't
They don't want somebody who is similar to them. They
(05:36):
want an actual man, and they don't know it well
at all.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
It all adds up, and yes, I do have trauma,
trauma from many years of being in New York City
and trying to convince usually very attractive but very left
wing women on dates. I'm sort of leaving libertarian these days.
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
By the way, I will say this too, how many
of those girls do you think you could have eliminated
if you didn't see them? Because when I listen to
that girl, as opposed to watch her, she's kind of cute.
If I just listen to her, I'm like, I would
I want to get a nail gun and just put
it into my head rather than have to listen to this.
But I think there are a lot of men out there,
(06:16):
maybe the vast majority of them, that are willing to
put up with awfulness beyond belief because the girl's pretty, Like,
if you just had to listen to her, oh of course,
you would be like, I'll never go on a date
with this girl.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I see this and I don't think this is controversial.
Though people pretend like this isn't necessarily true. We all
know it's true. Women make bad decisions about their or rather,
women are blinded by and then make bad decisions because
of men's money and status and men. I'm speaking in
the greatest of generalizations here, but men make bad decisions
(06:48):
and are blinded because of women's attractiveness. Okay, that is
I was just speaking about the guys who are in
their sixties with the boat with the big fancy boats
here and the twenty five year old girlfriends by the way,
in Miami Beach. That's not the like happening everywhere. Yeah,
it's like, this is not something that anybody even really
notices is happening all over the place. But yeah, the
guy who owns the boat, you gotta spend time with them.
That's the thing, you know. It's the it's the Bill, Bill,
(07:11):
the Bill Belichick, Clay, they're going full full Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I mean, I think it actually makes sense biologically right,
because women again biologically are driven primary.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But I think about it. I mean, and it's gonna
be a head of Clay Travis, you know, Caveman. Women
are driven by a desire for security and uh and
health and safety and success for their offspring. And the
wealthier and more powerful man can theoretically provide that right.
So biologically that makes sense. And men like young women
(07:44):
because young women are more likely to be able to
have babies. This is why we all exist. Sorry, that's
my big take, Clay, Yeah, this is this is accurate.
But okay, So the ideology though, notice she lays out
all these things her far left politics. Part of it
is toxic masculinity, alpha manliness. All of those things are
(08:09):
contrary to her political beliefs. So if you are an
alpha male who, let's say, believes in even things that
are not necessarily that political, but things like differentiation of
the sexes, that men should be protectors, that men are
generally going to be bigger and stronger, that men should
be the primary earner in the household, any of those
(08:31):
sorts of things are going to run a foul of
her beliefs. And so that's why she's going to be, oftentimes,
I think, miserable trying to find and this is her
slash all women that have similar beliefs to her, because
they are excluding as a matter of politics, the kind
of man that women are generally biologically geared toward liking.
(08:55):
And at the end of the video, which we didn't
play with you, she's like, and I've been thank well
ever since. That sort of the funniest because like, yeah,
no surprise, you've been single ever since. But it is
in fact highly ideological white women age call it, you know,
twenty to forty five in America, who are really now
(09:16):
the base of the Democrat Biden Kamala party. That's who
they can count on. And if they went to start
college educated white women twenty to forty five, college educated
is an important component because that's when the indoctrination happens,
and that's when they learn all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
They also often are ending up single now, and this
is what we were talking about with doctor Laura, Like,
remember she got really fired up. These are also the
women sometimes that want to have children and they go
to sperm donors and instead of being able to find
a man that they could actually have a relationship with,
they're flipping through binders trying to find guys that they
(09:55):
can you know, have a baby with, that they never
meet and that their kids have no relationship with. And
I think they're just making a series of bad choices,
but because they have made those choices themselves, they oftentimes
need larger societal issues to have created those choices for them. Right, Like,
(10:15):
it's almost like their security blanket is the world is
so misogynistic and awful that I have no other option.
Some of these women are gonna get married, and by
the time they have babies, they'll look back on themselves
and say, boy, I was a moron. By the way,
a lot of men get married look back on themselves
and say, boy, you know I was kind of a
moron too. I mean, I think that's the common trajectory.
(10:38):
It's why age adds wisdom, because you have lived through
every life experience and you can analyze it better at
fifty than you could at fifteen. And so I hope
that some of this is going to happen. But the
other thing is like posting these videos, does she think
that this makes her look really likable? Because are there
(10:59):
other women that are like Slay Queen? Yes, girl like
Actually to me, I watched the video and I just
felt sorry for her, and it made me find her
profoundly unlikable. Sunday Drop with Clean Buck. There are reports
this was the Time magazine cover that we have brought
back a company has. I read all about this yesterday.
(11:21):
I was fascinated by it yesterday afternoon. The dire Wolf,
which is a bigger wolf than the traditional wolf, has
been thanks to using DNA code, A company is saying
they have brought the dire wolf back from extinction after
ten thousand years. Now, many of you are going to
(11:43):
be familiar with the idea of the dire Wolf because
you watched Game of Thrones, and the wolves in that
Game of Thrones multi year saga grew into gigantic killing
machines from small puppies. So I wanted to dive into
this buck back in the day when you and I
(12:05):
were young. The book before they made the movie Jurassic
Park by Michael Crichton. The entire concept is that they're
able to take the DNA of the dinosaurs from these
if I remember correctly, Mosquito's Frozen and Amber, and that
they are then able to extract that DNA to create
new dinosaurs. And obviously the Jurassic Park franchise in terms
(12:29):
of movies, has remained incredibly durable and powerful for thirty
some odd years because lots of people remain fascinated by
dinosaurs in general. Lots of little boys, although not lots
of little girls too. I remember, I think you said
your nephew knows everything about dinosaurs. When I was a
little kid, I knew everything about dinosaurs. There is a
(12:49):
great deal of interest still obviously in the Jurassic Universe.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yes, and there are other species that could already be
I think, aren't they working on Mastadon's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Or the wooly mammoth for sure made me a mastadon.
The wooly mammoth, I think is basically going to happen.
In the article that I read, they are going to
bring back the saber tooth tiger.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They are they're going to bring back So so my question,
I'm fascinated by what the reaction of this audience too
good or bad? And let me give you a question
to think about this book. I was just out in
Colorado over spring break, and I bet we have a
lot of people listening in Colorado right now. And I
know this has turned into a major issue all over
the West. They have reintroduced wolves in lots of states
(13:39):
and communities where the wolf had basically been eradicated. And
if you have a ranch. Ranchers are furious about this
because suddenly what I was told I was in Colorado.
They're like, yeah, everybody in Boulder and Denver decided they
wanted to vote to bring back wolves, and all the
people who live in rural Colorado are like thanks. Jerks like,
(14:01):
we have no interest in bringing back wolves, and suddenly
our livestock are getting killed and we're having to worry
about something that we had eradicated. My thought is, now,
these dire wolves, there are three of them that they
say they have brought back, two boys and a that
they named Romulus and Remus and one girl Pop Will
they like in Jurassic Park, eventually find their way out
(14:25):
and then they're suddenly circulating in the community. They say
that the dire wolf basically covered all of North America
back in the day ten thousand years ago. If you
were out, this thing was from Canada all the way
down into South America. They basically roamed free. They were
wiped out about ten thousand years ago. What is your
(14:47):
take on the idea, not only of the dire Wolf,
Saber too, tiger, wooly mammoth being bringing back extinct animals
good or bad move?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
What's your take.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, I love the book Jurassic Park, as all of
you know, and so I find this a fascinating entry
into the scientific annals that is going on right now.
I think that, man, the truth is this the same
way that you know, I've never been to I've never
been to Africa, but I love knowing that there's all
(15:18):
these incredible I'm sorry, I have been to Africa. That's
not true, but I've never been on safari in Africa,
but that I've been to places where there are no safaris.
They've been in some rough parts of Africa, but I've
never done safari. But I love knowing that there are
lions and hippopotami and all that stuff. So I think
that it's tough for us to separate out the concept
(15:38):
of it. This is why when you brought up the ranchers,
I think that's very afro Po the concept of it
versus the reality of it. You know, a saber tooth
tiger is fine until a saber too tiger eats your
grandma and then you're pretty in This actually came up
if you you remember when this, I think it was
Cecil the Lion was the big story and Jimmy Kim
(15:59):
they killed, yes, And it was like him was like
crying on TV about Cecil, the lion in Africa who
on a lawful hunt was shot.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, it's like Cecil the light is crying and look,
I love animals, so I get that. And there's something
that's you know, like I love my little dog Ginger
so much, and yet I'm gonna eat lamb Shops right
for dinner. Like I understand some of this stuff. We
get a little it's about sentimentality over pure logic. Okay,
But that all said, there was a really interesting Wall
Street Journal article that I remember from that time, written
(16:32):
by I think he was a student at Harvard or Princeton,
who was like, you know what lions mean in my village? Yeah,
I read people get eaten. Yeah, like this isn't a
game to us, Like we actually have to control the
population because they'll eat your dad, they'll eat your sister,
Like you know, this is a real thing that happens
to real people, which reminds me of that movie Ghost
(16:53):
in the Darkness, based on a true story. And I
know you all know this, and you can go see
the stuffed carcasses of those lions, and I'm in a
zoo and I'm in a museum in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Wasn't Val Kilmer in that movie?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That just yeah? Yeah, it was a Valkilmer movie with
with Michael Douglas. Kind of a weird casting of Michael Douglas,
but anyway, Val Kilmer was good in it. And that's
based on a true story. I mean, these lions became
habituated to eating people and they're like, wow, people are
slow and kind of weak, Like, let's just eat them instead.
So this is all a way to say I think
(17:25):
for you know, should we bring back dodo birds?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Totally, like should we bring back species that? But you know,
this is where you also get into clay. I'm here
in South Florida and you have the boa constrictors and
and also, uh, what do you call them? The big
they look like little dragons on iguanas. Yeah. Yeah, and
(17:49):
and they are invasive. Well, BoA's are definitely an invasive species.
I think iguanas are two. I don't think they're native
to hear. They're basically pets that have escaped and now
they're killing all the native h you know, ecosystem animals off.
So you have to go hunt them and deal with them.
True thing. Also, you know that little brown bird that
you guys all think of, the European house sparrow, probably
(18:11):
the most common bird in the entire United States everywhere,
a little kind of brown squat bird. They're an invasive
species from Europe and they'll they have killed off a
lot of native bird species because they will break into
another bird's nest and break their eggs. They're mean, they're
mean little birds.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The honeybee is an invasive species.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Well, but we like honeybees.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
This is gu is the point, right, We like that
honey But people don't realize this. North America, until colonization,
had no honeybees anywhere, and then they slowly spread across
the entirety of the North American continent. But they were
a invasive species that otherwise didn't exist here.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Some of you will remember this too. There was a
fear about fire ants and how they're going to keep
spreading up and spreading up, and you know they're they're
you know, dangerous to people if you step on one
of their ant hills. And there was a briefly discussed
proposal that I remember reading about the only real, real
natural predators for the fire ants. They were thinking maybe
we should introduce it's a South American ant eater, which
(19:15):
has like six inch long claws and weighs like two
hundred pounds. And then they're like, well, if we introduce that,
what's its natural predator jaguars? So you create all these problems,
the food chain gets dangerous. Okay, So I am in
favor of this. Here is my thing gets a pet?
Yes or no? Once they reintroduced you no, no, no. I'm
(19:38):
in favor of it only for keeping them in captivity.
And I understand some of you are going to say, yeah,
that's the whole point of Jurassic Park. But I like
it also for endangered species now, because in theory, it
would mean there should be no animal that actually vanishes.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Right. You should be able to get the existing DNA
of all all animals that are alive on Earth today,
and we should be able to create a genetic Noah's
Arc of all living animals here today and be able
to create them. Now, I don't want if I'm a
I think about this in terms of the farmers out
(20:17):
there and the ranchers. The idea that you would reintroduce
grizzly bears or wolves that are going to attack my livestock.
Is I think different than this. I would nothing else
produce these animals.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Something else that that would be on the on the
docket here go. Uh, I believe it's I believe it's
called a short faced bear. Go look up the short
faced bear and it's like a grizzly bear times three.
It's a massive land predator. Uh. That they could also
along with the saber it's from the same era as
a saber tooth tiger. They could also bring that one back.
(20:54):
And I think that you know, you're starting to see
we definitely don't want that, right, I mean, that's that's
gonna be the same way that polar bears hunt people.
It's really the only North American land animal. Yeah, I know,
grizzlies can wolf has never actually attacked it. Healthy wolves
have never attacked the human being in the history of
North America. Is at least what you that's what they announced.
(21:15):
I mean, you're gonna say no, but that's what they say. Okay,
that's what the official statistics are that wolves won't attack
people if they're healthy. If they're a rabid, that's different.
Polar bears see you and they're like food food they don't.
There's no offens or butts, and the same thing would
be true of a short face bear, so you know,
mean something the thing Let me hit you with this
one buck. My boys are obsessed with the megalodon, which
(21:37):
is just a giant shark. In theory, the dire wolf
can be kept in inside of a fenced enclosure and
everything else. My concern on this would be that we
would start to create big, massive animals that are in
the water, and those are a lot harder to control.
(21:57):
Have you ever been to, say, for instance, the Atlanta
Aquarium where they have the whale sharks. You know they've
never been able to, for instance, keep I believe this
is still true a great white shark in captivity. They
just they're impossible to keep inside of museums or aquariums
anything like that. My concern is that some of these
that we will create will get out and can you
(22:19):
imagine a world where suddenly you have instead of a
great white shark, you've got the megalodon suddenly like rolling
around in the ocean deep. That starts to get a
little bit scarier to me. But I think it's the
reality of where we are going. I think you're going
to see all of these extinct animals genetically us able
to bring them back. Now, one more thing. As we
(22:41):
go to break, some people are saying this is not
the real animal because of the way they're doing the
DNA coding, and that gets way more complicated and above
my pay grade. But I have read some of those critiques.
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