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July 13, 2025 21 mins
Where do you stand on dating age differences? Becky bites back at the boys - can anybody beat her? A bunch of callers weigh in. Clay’s yard sale.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bill Belichick did an interview with CBS News as well,
and he was asked a question about where he met
his twenty four year old girlfriend. I'm not sure how
good this audio is going to sound, but Bill Belichick
is seventy two years old. He has got a twenty
four year old girlfriend. He is the head coach. Belichick

(00:39):
is right now of the University of North Carolina tar Heels,
So imagine, I know we got a big audience in
North Carolina. He's in a Navy sweatshirt. I believe his
dad was the coach at Navy. I bet the sweatshirt
is older than his girlfriend. And this is what it
sounded like when the reporter asked where they met. From

(01:01):
off camera, Bill Belichick's girlfriend decides to interrupt.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
This is cut fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
The other change for Belichick is twenty four year old
Jordan Hudson, his creative muse as he writes in his book,
make Sure That's the Jordan was a constant presence during
our interview.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
You have Jordan right over there.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got
nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.
How do you deal with that?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Never been too worried about what everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thanks, just to try to do what I feel like
is that's for me and what's right? How did you
guys meet not talking about this? No, no, it's a topic.
Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Okay, So twenty four year old girlfriend just jumps right
into the interview.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So you got Joy Reid on the Roman Empire, buck,
You've got CBS sixty minutes, and then you have the
Belichick girlfriend on the scale of crazy cringe? How would
you assess the trio of interviews or commentary there? Because
I got my ranking on crazy cringe? How would you

(02:15):
what is the craziest cringiest of those three?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm gonna get Joy read the Bill Belichick? What was
the other one?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Sixty minutes saying like, hey, our guy resigned because you
no longer have the freedom to do a show that's
a gimme, that's pretty standard for sixty minutes stuff. I
would say, for me, the Bill Belichick thing is even
cringier than Joy Reid on the Roman Empire.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know, I will say this. I think that people.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I've noticed this more that there are people that have
started to try to police age gap among consenting adults
in a way that I think is weird and kind
of and pretty annoying. You know, people say, oh, well,
you know, he's fifteen years older than her, or it's like, yeah,
you know, she's thirty, he's forty five, or he's fifty

(03:04):
and she's you know, or she's you know, fifty and
he's fifteen years younger, fifteen years old or whatever it
may be. But but I mean, it's it's not you know,
maybe that's not your thing, but people try to make
it seem like there's something wrong with that. Yeah, I
think that's really that's obtuse, Like there's nothing wrong with it.
Like you may not agree with it, you may not
want that in your own life, you may not want
that for your daughter or your son.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's fine, but there's nothing you know, people try to
act like there's a power in balance that like.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
The law should get involved.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Almost right, you start to see this this creepying Oh
well he's fifty and she's twenty five, so they shouldn't
be able. No, Like I will say with the Belichick thing,
I don't think that you know, it's fine, it's legal,
consenting adults. It's pretty weird. Like there is a limit,
is what I'm trying to get to here, Like I
have a very wide I think you get, you know,

(03:53):
you get you're willing to give twenty five thirty years.
I'll give someone twenty five or thirty years in an
age gap. Again, consenting adults. Obviously, I'll give somebody twenty
five or thirty years in an age gap. And I
don't think that that's anybody's business. But the but fifty years,
fifty years Clay Like, that's pretty that's uh, that's pretty wow.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I gotta tell you that.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Would be me or you Mary or not marrying whatever,
dating somebody.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Who will be born in the next five to.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Ten years boor funny. It's very funny. It's very funny.
It's like that Saturday One great skit they did for
Saturday Night Live. Do you remember this buck was Meet
Your second wife, and like all the guys are standing
there and the girls are walking out, and like the
girl is like six years old. It's like the guy's

(04:49):
like forty and they're and then like this woman walks
out and uh and I think it's the uh uh uh.
The character standing there waiting and he's like, oh, the
girl's like, I don't know, twenty five or thirty. He's like, hey,
that's not so bad. And then the woman says she's pregnant.
It's like, so that is a really funny skit that

(05:10):
Saturday Night Live did a few years ago. I'm glad
that I've got three boys. You now have a son.
If I had a daughter and she brought home a
man that she was dating that was older than me,
I would lose it. I just as much as you
might focus on the girl being like fifty years younger

(05:32):
and that's weird that she's interrupting the interview and all
these things. Imagine what it's like at Thanksgiving when you
open the door and legendary Super Bowl winning head coach
Bill Belichick, who probably is a decade or fifteen years
older than you, is dating your baby girl. I think

(05:53):
it would be really hard to have Thanksgiving dinner. I
just and I don't understand where this relationship goes because
to your point, if they were let's say it's true love. Okay,
let's say that she is head over heels in love
with seventy four year old Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
We're giving we're giving a lot of leeway here, but God.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I am saying Cupid's arrow has struck her in the
heart and she cannot cannot find another man that she
loves more seventy four year old Bill Belichick. In a decade,
Belichick is going to be eighty four and she's going
to be thirty four. Basically, where does this math make

(06:32):
sense going forward?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Like? Most men don't live to be eighty four. Where
does this go right?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Like?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I don't really understand that it's a simple math equation
that I find it hard to even on your point,
like fifty year old twenty five year old, Okay, they're
probably not going to have a fifty year marriage, right.
Unlikely he's going to live to be one hundred and
she's going to be seventy five, at which point, you know, whatever,
good for them. But you could still be married twenty
five or thirty years, which is a long time, and

(07:01):
in twenty five or thirty years you could have a
pretty good life for each.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
With each other. Well, I mean also fifty or oh.
This is a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I think a lot of you listening are living
this and know this already without us saying it. But
people in their fifties and sixties today are active, healthy
and able to enjoy their lives much more frequently. You know,
at that level, then you you know, they look like
people who were thirty or forty not too long ago.

(07:29):
I mean, the point of this changing, and everything has
changed a lot, is just that we're being very generous
and saying twenty five or thirty years. Like you may
not like it, but we're at least saying, okay, at
some point your eyebrows raise. I'm not sure where the
number is, fifty is one? This is what I was
getting at, is that I'll give you twenty five or thirty.
It's like, you know, hey, you know a lot of

(07:51):
people would rip us for saying we're giving you twenty
five or thirty. I think we're being super kind. It
wouldn't be my choice, okay, Like I would not have
gone that route. I think that having somebody who is
in a similar stage of life to you. You know,
I think my my personal belief now, really, I think

(08:12):
anything within ten years is sort of standard operating, at
least in New York City, it is standard operating procedure.
So most guys who get married that I know are
let's say, thirty five, and their wives are twenty eight,
twenty nine, thirty, you know, I mean like that, that's
the that's the standard. The guy's usually a little bit older.
You're actually you're younger than your wife, right, which is

(08:32):
unusual among friends of mine.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't know if I know anybody else.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I actually my friend Eric, who you met, the Eric Wynn,
the Watch guy, I think his wife is a year
or two older than him. But you know, generally speaking,
you know, within five my wife is two years older
than me and looks twenty years younger. Did I tell
you this? Fucking We were at a football game with
my kids at the Tennessee Alabama game. My wife went
to the bathroom and the woman behind me said, your

(08:58):
daughter is lovely nice, which I told Laura and I
would like baby be a little bit nervous. She's actually
two years older than me. Living so much better than me,
that she looks twenty years younger that that woman, because
I had my kids are sons. That the woman behind me,
who is probably I don't know, fifteen years older than me,
said your daughter looks lovely. So my wife, who was

(09:20):
older than me, and his birth three sons, including one
who is seventeen. The lady behind me thought that she
was like a college age girl going to the bathroom.
By the way, producer Ali eight years older than Gerard.
So on the show, there you go. I'm just saying,
I think, and I know this is maybe different in
different you know, cultural enclaves of the country. I think

(09:41):
anything within ten years is totally standard operating procedure like
that doesn't even I think. You know, you got up
to twenty years plus age difference. Okay, you know it's
again not my thing, but like you know, true love
is blind, right, like people do their thing.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Fifty years is weird. This is where we're drawing.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
This is where we're drawing the line, fifty year age difference.
It's again, it's legal, it's lawful, that's fine, but it's weird.
There's something weird going on, very weird. We agree on that. Oh,
the lines are lit. Yes, the beehive has been I
don't even think the ba has been kicked. We've just
sort of left the beehive buzz because we talked about
something that people feel passionately about, age differences between married

(10:22):
couples and Becky and North Carolina. Becky, I am told
by our team that you have celebrated twenty seven years
of marriage with a husband with whom you have a
thirty one year age gap. Congratulations, how's it all going?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (10:41):
It's great. And actually we're not at twenty seven yet.
We're coming up on the twenty seventh anniversary.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, I married events.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
We were married in nineteen ninety eight. I was twenty six,
my husband and actually I'll took him last month for
his birthday on a cruise, and he just turned in March.
He just turned eighty four, and I'm fifty two. And
we have God gave them to us. We have birth
I birthed our two sons once twenty three. One's twenty

(11:11):
and my husband was sixty when our first born was
son in sixty three when the second one was born.
And so yeah, we've been married almost twenty seven years
and we are thirty one and a half years apart
in age, and it's great.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
All right, thirty one and a half years apart in age.
What would be a number to you that you would
look at and say, that's too big of an age gap?

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Pretty two?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay. I love the answer. I like the answer.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
This is actually a really funny. How did you meet?

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, we met.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Actually I was nineteen. We didn't get married till I
was twenty six. We met, I was an X ray
student and I was rotating through the hospital where he's
a physician. He was a radiologist. That's what he did.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Doctor nurse, doctor nurse situation very nice.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
No, no, no, I wasn't a nurse. I was an
x ray technologist. I took oh okay, he read I
mean yeah. And so after a number of years we
became friends right off. And after a number of years
I realized, well, he's making like fifteen times my salary.
I'm better marry him and get in on this money.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, Becky is a shrewd, A shrewd lady. Congrats on
all your happy marriage, Becky. Appreciate your calling in Sunday
hang with Clay and Buck.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Walter.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You have been married for thirteen years. You say you
are sixty nine years old. Your wife is thirty two,
so you are thirty seven years older than your wife.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yes, sir, all right, so you've been.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Married for thirty say Walter, currently reigning champion. Okay, fuck,
let me make sure I got this math right. Walter,
you were fifty six and you married a nineteen year old.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
She was I actually she was actually just turned twenty books, like,
just turn twenty one when I met her.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I mean, just turn twenty one when you met How
did you meet your wife?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Who is.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
This much different in age than you? Thirty seven years younger.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Okay, whichever one of you worked for the CIA loved this.
My son works for the CIA and his wife and
him often had Filipino maids, and they said, if you're
going to get me married, you need to go to
the Philippines. They love Americans, they love everything about Americans.
And that's what I did. I got online, met a
Filipino and went and saw her. Took about a year

(13:38):
for her to come to the United States on a
K one visa passport whatever, and we got married thirty
days later. And you, guys, I can tell you what
the limit should be what's the limit lim it should be.
The limit should be when you can't perform normal marital issues,

(14:00):
and one of those is having children. I have three
children with her, she blessed me at sixty years old.
With my last child that got cut after that, I
have five children that are all older than her.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So you have I like, how like how with can
I say? I like how we're we're like all in
the trust tree here. It's just the three of us
and about three million people listening, and we're just you know,
we're just laying it out there. So you have eight
total kids, yes, sir, and you had your oldest sorry
you were how old when your youngest was born?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
My sixty?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, Well, thank you for the call. I'm glad it's
going well. Uh there, the marriage has been great. I
assume it sounds like it's worked out really well for you.
We love hearing about happy marriage.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
It has been. But you know, everybody has their their
things that are important to them. You know, I don't
know what's important to Belichick's wife, but.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, this is a great to be clear, sir, this
is a this is a you know, like an Instagram
girlfriend kind of a thing.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, they're not. There's no it's no marriage here, So
just putting that out there.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
We've got thank you, We've got two more. This one
is kind of an upset. I just want to be
Is he the reigning champion at what was that? Thirty
thirty seven years?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And then we've got multiple people with thirty year age gaps.
Let's see, Alan, she is thirty, she's twenty three. That's nothing,
you're a twenty twenty. Some of those are rookie numbers.
We've got to get those nas. You got to do
better than that. Alan Craig in Florida, Florida, a lot
of Florida man Craig thirty four years older than his wife. Craig,

(15:34):
how old are you when you got married?

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Let's see, well, I'm seventy now, so it was what
about fifty seven? Fifty eight?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Okay? And your wife was how old when you married her?

Speaker 4 (15:48):
How old were you?

Speaker 7 (15:48):
Honey? She's listening on the radio and she's hiding. She's
just her head, she's doctor head. Well, i'm thirty four
and a half years older or she just turned thirty six.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
So how did you meet?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
So you're seventy basically, and she's mid thirties. How did
you meet?

Speaker 7 (16:09):
I was a professor at a college and she was
one of my students.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Oh there we go. Goodness, all right, there we go.
She better stay hidden.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I won't ask you, Clay. You know, some ladies just
can't resist a guy in a tweet jacket with elbow patches.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know, that's just the way.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do you guys have kids?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Craig?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Okay, and we got it. Melanie in Houston has called in.
This is the first woman. She is thirty two years
younger than her husband. Melanie, how are you say?

Speaker 5 (16:40):
I'm doing great. It's good to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
So you are the woman who has had the we
had Becky call in thirty one and a half. You
are thirty two years age difference. How old are you
when you got married?

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I was forty one.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh okay, well see like this and now I'm gonna like.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
So you're I also sa at the age.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think once you hit forty it's like you're a
fully like the potato is fully baked.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You are who you are, and so that doesn't you know?
So I think that that's interesting that you know, it's
more when we get the people that are like nineteen
marrying a fifty year old that I think there's a
generational gap that exists there.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know, that's pretty prominent. That's really what do you
want to say? Though?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
He served twenty four years in the Air Force, and
he was an incredible man, just a great American. We
met while volunteering for local rodeo, Pasadena, Texas Rodeo, and
he just just his personality was overwhelming. He was so kind,

(17:44):
he was so sweet. He treated my two children like
they were his own. He had four grown boys, all
older than me. They never accepted me, they never liked me.
I took care of him actually in our home until
the day that he passed from cancer, and I just

(18:05):
I was very blessed. And everyone everyone whose life he touched,
his name was Billy Graham, just like the preacher. Everyone
who he touched was blessed.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And it's a we love hearing these lovely stories about
marriages that work out and uh and then go go
a very long ways in terms of the duration.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
We'll come back. We'll do uh some more of some
more of these calls. For sure. I'm this has been
this has been very very illuminating, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Talking about the Bill Belichick, it's fifty right, he's like
a fifty year age gap. Yeah, he's seventy four, I
believe seventy two and she's twenty four.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Forty eight years.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I guess that's the biggest age gap I have heard of, certainly,
you know, since the Anna Nicole Smith era. H So,
that's the biggest age gap I've ever heard of. We're
wondering with the biggest age gap. Wasn't this age gap
was in this audience? I didn't tell you right now,
those of you writ writing in her calling in, and we
appreciate and I hope you have a great marriage. Lots
of kids, beautiful lives, twenty twenty year age gaps. That's

(19:05):
rookie numbers. That's rookie numbers these days. Here we've are
we got a whole slew of thirty plus that are
calling in right in. So it is not as unusual
as some may think to have people married and seemingly happily,
and we certainly hope that is the case for all
of our listeners. You have a great, happy marriage. But
thirty year age gaps of plenty in this audience, which

(19:25):
is which is pretty fun pretty funny. But before I
get into that, speaking of happy marriages, Clay, my understanding
is that there was quite a fiesta at Casa Clay
Travis over the weekend. Are we allowed to talk about
this or we banned? WAA may want to come on
tomorrow because it's very end of the show. My wife,

(19:46):
every year in the neighborhood they have a yard sale.
Sixty she says, houses had yard sales. They do it
one time a year in the neighborhood. Every year I
ask why we are doing a yard sale, and every
year I am shouted down as a as a imbecile

(20:08):
for asking this question. So I don't understand it. I
don't know very many men out there that are huge
yard sale people. Maybe there are tons of you out
there right now. They're like, you know what, I would
love to spend the weekend doing yard sales. Women are
obsessed with yard sales.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
It is the craziest thing I've ever seen. They start
showing up at the crack of dawn, and there are
very few things I would wake up for at the
crack of dawn on a weekend, and the entire house
was swarmed with people buying stuff at our house, and

(20:45):
I just, I mean, I don't get it. I don't
understand why women love yard sales. Were there some ThunderCats pillowcases?
As I asked, I mean, what are we talking about?
Maybe some Ghostbusters costumes when the boys are getting old?
So lots of costumes, lots of Batman sheets?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You wanted ThunderCats? It is can?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I I mean, let's be honest. Clay is is a
is a T shirt that is old and worn in
but worn by OutKick founder Clay Travis? Is that a
selling point? Is it like, uh, you know, like the
water that a saint has bathed in or something?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Or how does he know what? You know?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
What?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
The one calamity is I need to apologize Dana Perino's
autographed book that she had just sent to me accidentally
got so old Man

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