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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Sunday Hang with playing podcast starts.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Now that's something that we've lost as well.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The whole world has lost it.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The coming home from the office or whatever and having
you know, you have seven messages. You know, it's like,
so this is a little.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Bit used to be super exciting you you didn't know
it was blinking. You're like, hey, who was this? And
now that never happens.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It was invariably like a bill collector or something, and
you're like, this is sad. You know, Mail, actual physical
mail has just turned into a point of anxiety for me.
With the exception of now the babies born. We got
a lot of gifts from so many people's very calm.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But the mail that goes into your mailbox, it's never good.
It's never anything that I want, really, It's always just garbage.
You know, it belongs all who Bell I remember.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm old enough to remember Buck. I don't know if
there was something that would come in the mail that
you were super excited to get back in the day.
For me, Sports Illustrated. I was like, who was going
to be on the coach issue?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Which issue?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Clay?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The swimsuit issue, of course was a was a was
a hot point in February that got banned at my
high school.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So did me just a particular one not allowed to
have that? Of course you could have the one with
like Barry Bonds on the covered, but right right right
illustrated Yep, the Dan They had to do a special announcement,
no maxim, no stuff, No Sports Illustrated Swimsuit you know
edition which talk a little totalitarian. I was a little
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kind of living in North Korea for a while there, Clay,
except it was Jesuits instead of the Kim family.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I nineteen eighties, early nineteen nineties, pre internet, the Sports
Illustrated Swimsuit issue was absolutely iconic. And I know there's
a lot of people out there listening right now that
remember that very well. You were super excited to go
down and get it. But every week leave aside the
Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Who was on the cover used
to be a monster deal, one of your favorite players,
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one of your favorite teams. You couldn't wait to see
who was going to be the cover of Sports. I
don't even know how many times they publish Sports Illustrated now,
you know, I looked into trying to buy it when
we kick the tires on that company and what it
was going to cost, but it's not a very good
business right.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now, Sunday hang with Clay and Bucks.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We now have Krockett Coffee up in the gift shop
at the Alamo, So as a history nerd, that is
very very cool. Proceeds going to help with the Alamo.
Obviously not a cheap historical location to be running. But
if you go into the Alamo now and you go
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through the gift shop there, you will find Crockett coffee available,
which is very very cool. You can sign up crock
at coffee dot com, get an autograph copy of my
most recent book when you subscribe, and we would love
to see the photos.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
If you are.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Going into the Alamo, and we know we have a
big audience down in San Antonio, you can tag us
either me or Buck or the show and let us
see that you have found Crockett coffee in the gift shop.
This is one of the cool things they reached out
to us, and obviously to have a coffee company named
after Davy Crockett fits very well. At the Alamo, I
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think we were talking also they had flooding issues with
the birthplace of Davy Crockett. We also wanted to get
our coffee potentially in there to help those guys as well.
So you can help us continue to grow a great
American coffee company that loves American history.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Sundays with Clay and Buck Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. Listen
on K E N I.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Hey, guys, the show today is so important and substantive
about South Africa and other issues. So I'm just I'm
just asking, is there any chance that we could mix
in just a little bit of an update about Clay
swimming from Alcatraz by chance that was so fun the
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other day, just to just to have a light moment
if there's time.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Thanks, well, Pam, there's always time for a light moment.
I'll just say this, Clay and I are working this
out where we're gonna have to make me I think
it's probably gonna be tell all the towers, but to
find a charity that Clay can do the swim for,
and then I will go in one of those little
launch boats alongside. I'll be wearing like a nice you know,
like a fleece with a hat, drinking hot cocoa or
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some krock of coffee, drinking some hot beverage, and shouting
at Clay faster, don't give up, you know so, because
I'm a team player, Clay.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I want to know how long I can stay in
the water on average without getting hypothermia, because I'm just
gonna stick to this. I'm not gonna if I'm in
the water eventually. If you have stood on Alcatraz and
looked ahead of you at San Francisco Bay, I'm not
telling you that I'm going to land at a particular location.
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I'm not saying, hey, I'm going to hit peer thirty two.
I am saying I will not drown, and at some
point I will reach land.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Why people are so shocked by this. So you might
just kind of like roll on to land with a
wave and then like spit up a.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Bunch of water. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
In the movies, when you when you survive, well you're
the one guy who survives the shipwreck to move the
plota word that will be.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You that'll be me.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It'll be just like castaway, and except I will not
stay on an island for a long time like Tom Hanks.
I will say, if I start to get swept out
to sea, I will acknowledge if I do not want to.
Let me just be clear, I do not want to
get swept out to see. I don't want to find
myself hanging to the support struck. Sure of Golden gate
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Bridge or the Bay Bridge. I'm not sure which way
the tides take you, whether they take you towards the
Bay Bridge or the Golden State. So I will get
rescued at some point if I start to go out
to see, because that's not ideal. But in the bay,
which is like a big tub I think, meaning like
the water just kind of sloshes around all over the place,
I think I'll make it, and I don't. I think
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I'll be fine. Now, somebody asked a question. I hadn't
really thought about it, and I hope it doesn't get
in my head. They were like, well, you know a
lot of people cramp. I've never cramped. Have you ever
cramped while swimming?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
People always say this why you couldn't go swimming afterwards?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Even in a pool like you might what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But I'm like, if I have a hot dog and
then I drown, Like, isn't that on me?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean, how hard is this?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I think it was just I think that's an old
wives tale designed to get moms and dads from having
to get in the pool.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Like you ate.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Everybody this in the nineteen eighty I don't know if
they still say it now. You just ate, you'll cramp up,
you can't get in the pool. I've never cramped. Have
you ever cramped while swimming?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
No? But now again we probably will. We haven't swamm
very hard. I think it's the real Well, that's a
good plot. Let's be honest, you and me. More floating
than swimming, more flow.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think I'd be able to take breaks and float
as necessary. What I'm telling you is I will not drown,
and as long as I don't die of hypothermia, eventually
I will find sure. I really think that I will. Now,
maybe I'm wrong, Maybe this is the dumbest look. I've
made a lot of dumb arguments over the years. Maybe
this is in fact the dumbest argument I ever made.
But I'm telling you I will make it to land.
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I will, I will be a savior.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think. I think Riley Gaines should be your guide
sort of. She gets in the water with you to
make sure you don't drown. I wait on shore with
hot cocoa and warm cookies for both of you, cheering
you from afar.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Riley is such a good swimmer. I think that she
would be troubled. Does even keep up with me?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Badly?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sunday drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We're joined now by actor Dean Kine. You remember him
from Back of the Day. A superman but still doing
great projects out there. I did want to give you
a chance. Tell everybody at the movie coming out next week,
Little Angels, Yes, what do they need to know?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Okay, so Little Angels go to Little angelsmovie dot com
and then press theaters and demand it be in your area.
If it's not in your area. It's a very family
friendly film, but it deals with sports because I'm a
sports guy through and through and through. I played every
sport under the sun growing up and college. I was
a three sport guy. And then I went to the
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NFL for the Buffalo Bills for a short time before
I got injured. Then I had to just go find
something else to do. So I decided to take a
lesser role, be an actor and play Superman. So it
was a great thing. So this movie, I wrote it,
I produced it, I directed it, I did everything. If
you don't like it, it's my fault one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But it deals.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I mean, you have a six month old or something
like that, right, so your kid won't watch.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Six weeks six weeks. He's just a little chunk man.
He's just starting to smile.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, that's congratulations. Best thing in the entire world. I'm
a single father. My son's twenty almost twenty five years old.
He's my best friend. He's my favorite human being. So
you got your little your little minime there. Congratulations. If
he has anywhere near the thickness of your hair, he's
gonna be just fine.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know what, Can I just say this, Dean, we
think he does, except he's a redheit, so he's gonna
he's good. We gotta My dog's name is Ginger. I
don't know how this is gonna work out, but my
son's got red hair for sure.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's gonna be Ginger. The second Yeah, wow, well done.
My son had blonde hair and I'm and it's gotten darker.
But yeah, you never know what you're gonna get in
that genetic lottery. You never know what's gonna happen. But
as far as family entertainment goes, Little Angels is all
about that. But it's also about you know, I learned
so much playing football in sports, and you learned that
you can't do it by yourself. You learned that you
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got to be part of a team. You have to
learn how to deal with losing. You know how to
deal with people picking on you, judging you. It's all
life lessons and I learned more playing football than I
could ever explain. And I try to get a lot
of those life lessons through uh in this film. And
the kids are great and you really fall in love.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
With the girls.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
It's story of a college football coach who, like a
Nick Saban, wins the national championship again, very cocky and
cockshure and full of himself, and then he gets in
trouble for saying something stupid about a woman kicker on
his own team, and he ends up having to go
coach under thirteen year old girls soccer. And he doesn't
like kids, and he doesn't like soccer, so he has
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to adjust his world to do this.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It's a bit like Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
And if it has one iota of the success of
Mighty Ducks, then I'll be a happy man.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, I mean my producer Mark, who's on vacation right now,
on leave right now. Who's one of our guys in
the show. I've worked them for many years. I believe
Mighty Ducks is his favorite movie of all time.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It's an underdog story, it's a story of coming together
as a team. So he's got good taste. Hopefully he'll
switch over and like Little Angels more.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, I was gonna say, I got to get him
to watch Little Angels and give the full review.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Speaking of reviews, you know this is.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Getting a little too chummy on this interview. I want
to create a little a little heat, mister Dean Kane,
all right, you're on the hot seat now, Superman. Lets
might be pulling out a little kryptonite, my friend, my career, my.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Kryptonite as women, unless you're pulling out a beautiful lady, whoa,
I'm in good shame.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
This is just got freudy.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
This is okay.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Let's let's let's let's look at the movie review for
a sec. Okay, miss Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning Okay, and
let me just say this, I am a overall a
Tom Cruise maybe, you know, the most successful actor financially
of all time.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I mean Top Gun is an absolute epic.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I love Top Gun, Matt. I'm not anti Tom Cruise
at all. And I think the first Mission Impossible movie
is a lot of fun. I haven't really seen some
other ones, so I jumped in on the twenty twenty
three movie, which is now on uh I think Amazon
Primus where I was watching it because my wife is gone.
I got a little time, so now I can watch
the movies. I think she like, probably wouldn't like, you know,
so yeah, so that's the thing, Like I like, I
binge the movies, anything sci fi. You know, she's not
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in any of that. But I was like, I'll try
this Dead Reckoning, Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning. I think it
is just trash. It's the new one in the theaters. No, no, no, second,
it's the one that you can watch at home.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't go to theaters. You know, it's two A
lot of people. Don't people talk. I get too frustrated.
But you know, I like to be in my home.
I'm I'm gonna grump the curmudgeon. Clay is like the
more out out in the world people person. I'm very uh.
I can be a little introverted. But here we go.
Mission Impossible, Dead reckoning. I think it's trash. Everyone jumps
on me. I don't even know this. Clay apparently loved
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this movie, and in fact, he loves it so much
that he weighed in from his vacation with a talkback.
You guys have it ready to go, and here's what
he says about this Mission Impossible movie.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Play it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Hey, everybody, I'm here at Universal Studios AKA a place
where people who like to have fun go to have
even more fun. It's Buck's miserable place, much like his
review of the first Mission Impossible Part one, which he
said was unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
The greatest movie star of all time is confronted by
the greatest obstacle of his career and entity of AI
intent on destruction of the world, and only Tom Cruise
can save us from being destroyed. That's why everybody loved it.
The greatest actor of all time against the greatest obstacle
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of his career. Tons of pratt falls, suspense and incredible action,
and you could only hate it if you hate fun.
I'm going to get on a roller coaster like all good,
red blooded Americans, and when I get off, I'll probably
say thank you America for Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I'm just gonna say this, Dan before I have you
weigh in, before Superman picks a side here, Okay, which
is what's going on? I just wish they had hired
like a scriptwriter who knew how to write a movie.
I don't know. I just wish that there was something
that made sense. You don't have to agree one hundred
percent with either side who's more right on this one?
And I promise even if you agree with Clay, we'll
have you back on the show.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I appreciate that. Well, Clay sounds overly.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Enthusiastic about it, let's put it that way, and so
I would probably fall somewhere in the middle. I like
Tom Cruise a lot. I like him as a person.
I know him. He is the hardest worker that I've
seen ever in this business. He's he works crazy hard.
He's a perfectionist. But sometimes when you're making a movie,
you can't be perfect.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So this is this is first the first time I'm
gonna let it go that Superman just split the baby. Fine, whatever,
you're Superman. You're supposed to save the day. You're not
supposed to fly down the middle. But okay, I'm gonna
let it go because you know, Tom Cruise. I find
that really interesting. What's he like?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
He's intense, He's as intense as he is when he's acting.
But he's got a great, smiley friendly side to him too.
He's uh, I mean, I don't know him super well.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
But you met him, you've interacted with him. I mean,
I play basting with him. You could argue he isn't
he like five seven?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
What I would do is I would drive the lane,
draw everybody in and literally shield them off with my
body and this sort of hand.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Can you pop the can he pop the j Is
he pretty good from the perimeter? I like his movies?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I'd rather have Michael B. Jordan take that shot, or
especially Michael Jordan. Well, Michael either want to particularly good?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Interesting, you know, because I respect Tom Cruise's body of
work tremendously, and I do think he's made a lot
of great It's not like George Clooney, who I just
think is wildly overrated. I'm not even gonna try to
get you in trouble with that, although he's a Communist,
so maybe you jump in.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think Clooney like you think about his actual roles
and his in the movies. Yeah, Ocean's eleven. They could
have replaced him with fifteen people, and know they could
have replaced him with eleven other people, and if it
would even.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Play ever for me, I would have been okay with that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think the King would have been way better than
ye eleven personally. And you don't hate America? Is also
I love America.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, so so that's a that's a really strong vote
in your favor. But yeah, I just thought with Tom Cruise,
here's the thing, Dean, I need your help because we're
we're in abe shift now. Yes, as the kids say,
were't a vibe shift now where conservative everything is on
the march more in the culture than it has been.
Are you seeing that for independent filmmaking? And or can
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you and I sit down and I will write a
badass pro American script I'm not saying I'm an actor
script and you could star and we'll do some some
cool you know, we'll do like Mission Impossible for right wingers.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yes, let's do listen with your knowledge.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, it would be too close to reality probably, but
but I but I give you the green light.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I would love that.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I would love to do a film like that that
is pro America because I am supremely pro America.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I travel the world, I get to go everywhere. I've
this is this is my thing?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is that is that? You know, there's not enough content
that we're America. So many of these movies it's like, oh,
we have a superhero or oh we have like a
super spy, but actually the real enemy is internal And
I'm like, no, that's actually not always the case.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Sometimes it's like Crimson Jihad and they want debtonated nuke
in the Florida Keys like back in the day. Sometimes
it's is the is the shift though? Is it easier now?
I mean really, first of all, thank you vote of confidence.
Maybe you and I'll be talking about this year, but
but is there a shift now where you can get conservative?
I don't even forget traditional Americana style movies made now
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or is it closer to being that? At least I
know it's not there yet, But is it moving there
or is that just still unfortunately too far to make
it happen.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I think it's too far for Hollywood, but I think
there are so many independent people, independent filmmakers, who are
pushing it that way. And I think the audiences are
way more receptive because of the inauthenticity of this last administration.
They're seeing the ridiculous lies and the things that were
put out during the past four years, and it's all
being exposed now, slowly but surely. And then you see
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this pro Americana push going through, and I think that
I think the culture is going to change tremendously within
the next couple of years. And so we got to
get our movie out soon. Buck, You've got to get
right and starting tomorrow, because I do.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Think there is time.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm not writing a book anymore, so I gotta just
start writing a screenplay.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Let's go you.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Me, Kevin Sorbo Mel. We gotta have a dinner, be
like a meeting of the of the four families. We'll
get this thing in motion.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Great meeting. I'll do it anytime. You tell me when
I know those guys both very well.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So let's let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I like, I like where your head's at. Tell me this, sir.
Where can people go for Little Angels again?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Little Angelsmovie dot Com? And then you hit theaters and
it'll show where it's playing in your area. And if
it's not in your area, demand it and we'll put
it over there if I have anything to say about it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Dean Kane, the Superman for people who love America. Thank
you so much, sir. Good to have you appreciate. Thank you, sir,