August 24, 2025 • 34 mins
Buck’s Sports Jeopardy. Superman fans go after Clay. Which Superman movie or series was your favorite? Best movie of the 21st century?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm promising you, guys, a bunch of fun Superman movie
fans are mad at me for my take on the
Superman movie, and I can't believe this is real. But
I'm gonna read to you some of the unbelievable emails
that I am being deluged with, and I promise you
(00:38):
that some of you are not gonna be able to
I'm gonna have to be really careful to edit some
of the things that are being said to me. But
I never expected that I was just going to be
at a Superman movie fan, like I'm the Antichrist according
to the Superman movie people right now, so trust me.
Top of next hour, we're gonna have some fun with this.
But on the clock right now, Buck Sexton. Sports Jeopardy
(01:03):
was a category last night. First of all, before we
get to Buck, can we play the flashback of Wolf
Blitzer loose on Celebrity Jeopardy, losing nearly five thousand dollars.
Here I maze More on Twitter shared this would be
I had not seen it. This is from two thousand
and nine CNN's Wolf Blitzer gets destroyed, not on Real Jeopardy,
(01:26):
on Celebrity Jeopardy Cut twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The name of this pasta similar to penny means little mustaches.
Doesn't sound so tasty now, Wolf, what is Fetuccini?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
King David and Jesus both hailed from this town.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wolf.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What is Jerusalem?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No? An accused person in.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Court along with his council woof, but as a defendant No,
from a larger work well, Cano David No, add one
of this five letter word that refers to an economic
crash and the fear driven rush to sell. Well, what
is a crash? Nope? Well, things have not worked out
as well as you would hope for.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm sure you don't make Final Jeopardy because they're playing
for charity.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You have to be positive, you have to have positive
dollars to be able to make it Final Jeopardy. He
lost almost five thousand dollars on Jeopardy, which is really
hard to do.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So we have we have Jeopardy Sports questions. Thinks he's
gonna Clay thinks he's gonna light me up here. I
give you my word. I have not we did not
coordinate this, and I have not seen or heard these before,
So go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
All right, Here is cut twenty seven. A Jeopardy NFL
question for Buck.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Play it number of points a team gets for a
safety in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Safety in the NFL Buck two. I played Madden for
years in college. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Here were the Jeopardy answers last night, twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
A play it, Scott, what is three?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
No, Ra?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What is one? Also incorrect? Sarah? What is two?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Right in the middle, it's two points for a safety.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So the girl finally gets it right. So the two
guys go oh for one to two, and I would
bet they both Wait, you're not gonna ask me a
WNBA question. This is harsh, This is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Honestly, this would have been I this was the thousand
dollars question, so there was a WNBA question. Here It
is cut twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
This Yukon star had an intense spring in twenty twenty five,
playing on her first national championship team and being picked
first in the w NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I mean Caitlyn Clark, but that's a good guess, and
in fact, you and ra Hul would have been in
in cahoots. Here cut twenty eight A. Here was Rahul's answer.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Who is Kinglin Clark? No, Carter Sack, that's nobody Beckers,
Paige Beckers.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I now could offer me a million dollar, I wouldn't
get that one. To be fair, I don't think you
would have guessed Kaitlyn Clark because they do have the
picture up. So if you were on Jeopardy like this,
this player is blonde, uh and Kaitlyn Clark is brown haired,
so I think you would have Probably that's a tough one.
That was the thousand dollars question, but you did get
(04:18):
the safety right Sunday, hang with Clay and Buck. Congrats
as you just heard Buck Sexton successfully knowing how many
points of safety is worth, unlike two thirds of the
Jeopardy contestants.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Gonna have a little bit of fun here, and this
is all real. But I want to how funny is
that Wolf Blitzer clip? I mean that that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He would I mean for everybody out there watching, he
is held up as one of the brainiacs of CNN, Right,
wouldn't you say that's probably fair to say that wolf
Blitzer is seen as one of the smarter guys on
the air at CNN.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think that's probably fair. Well, I don't know if
it's as a result of his Jeopardy appearance, but people
have been suggesting that he's like the confused fool for
a while now. Okay, I think so, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
To be fair, he's probably I mean, he's got to
be over seventy now, right, like that clip was from
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I will say, I will say I have heard from
people within this CNN world for a long time. He's
actually a pretty pretty I've heard him super nice guy. Yeah,
he's a nice guy. So I will give him a
polo credit on he's apparently a good dude, and we're
having a little bit of fun at his expense. But
he's paid millions of dollars and he's had a good
run and so you know, but he is apparently fair
unlike most of the CNN anchors, and I could go
(05:36):
through chapter and verse he's apparently a nice guy. To
be fair, if I went on Celebrity Jeopardy and I
lost five thousand dollars, it would go insanely megaviral and
I would. I mean I would have to own it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Right, but all the clips of me missing the questions
and everything else, it would Actually it would probably be
better for me to go and lose a ton of
money than to win a ton of money, because if
I won tons of money, nobody would share it. They
would be like, oh whatever, Clay Travis, still stupid meani
head more on, if I lost like five thousand dollars,
(06:12):
everybody that hates me would share it. So it probably
would go more viral for a collapse than actually being successful. Okay,
I tweeted this last night. I got a sense that
my take this is all real. I got a sense
that my take on Superman the New movie had gone
megaviral because yesterday I woke up and I had an
(06:36):
email from a japan news agency asking if they could
interview me for my take on the new Superman movie.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So when you see the Suntori commercials with Clay Travis
in them or sapporo, you will know that this is
that Clay's big in Japan. Let's just say it, Clay
is big in Japan.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
In my entire career of telling tons of sharing sun
tons of opinions on everything under the Sun. There has
never been any request for me to be interviewed by
any Japanese news agency.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, Cook, I think the one part we have to
let everybody know, though, is that the director James Gunn
I used to be. I will say, if we were
talking like late nineties, early two thousands movies, I was
absolutely dialed in. I have my favorite directors, my favorite actors,
you know, excited about I don't even know who's I
(07:30):
don't know who's been directing movies for the last ten years.
I basically have no idea. I don't pay attention because
I think most movies absolutely stink. Almost all of them
absolutely stink. Now he said something though, here's the quote.
Here's the James gun quote. So this is where it
all started.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
On a Variety magazine, which is like a Hollywood celebrity magazine,
shared a story and said, James Gunn says Superman is
about an immigrant that came from other places. How we've
lost the value of basic human kindness. Yes, it's about politics.
(08:05):
That was James Gunn's take. He is the director of
the new Superman movie that is opening. I think maybe
already are out or opening today or whatever else. I
tweeted three days ago, and this is true. I'm gonna
skip seeing Superman. The director is a moron to say
this publicly the week before release. America is desperate for
a political entertainment. Hollywood's unable to deliver it. And then
(08:30):
I continued, I said, I made a fun movie. I
hope every one of all backgrounds and enjoys. Is it
that hard to say this when you've been given hundreds
of millions of dollars of studio money to make a
summer blockbuster. It feels like Tom Cruise is the only
Hollywood superstar who still gets this. That's what I don't
even think of all my takes, Like I think that
(08:53):
is like one of the most tepid, non hot take,
non crazy takes. It has evidently gone megavirul le and
the Superman community of fans is furious at me, and
this buck just in the last I don't know a
little bit on social media. I got the following messages
(09:15):
sent to me on Instagram from Superman fans. These are
people that are furious at me. This is a representative sample.
I am deluged in angry Superman fan messages. Here is
one hey word that you can't say on the radio.
I just want to let you know Superman has been
(09:37):
an immigrant since he was created, and that calling stuff
woke means you can't find a good reason to complain.
You're being a bitch, You're an idiot, wrong, You're being used,
You piece of blank. Go kill yourself. James Gunn isn't
the moron you are. Your family will burn for this. Whoa,
(10:03):
Your family will burn for the idea that's from my
Superman movie. Take okay, it's got a good idea to
go mega political.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
This is crazy town. Can I give you I'm gonna
give you a few things here. First of all, Superman
is not an immigrant. If we're gonna play this conversation
out a little bit, let's do it. Okay, Superman is
an alien. He is not a human being who is
subject to another jurisdiction on this planet and has citizenship elsewhere.
He is from another planet. Now, that to me is
(10:34):
actually a good case, especially when your home planet has
been destroyed, as Superman's has. If I remember my comic
book lore, Superman, if anything, would be an asylum seeker,
unlike all of the people who are showing up in
America pretending that their planet was blown up, so to speak,
pretending they can't go back to their home country. They
(10:56):
are just fraudsters. So Superman is an an alien, not
an illegal alien, but an actual alien from another planet.
Does not have a jurisdiction on planet Earth that he
should be in other than America. And I think under
any reasonable view of asylum law, his home planet is gone,
(11:21):
so I don't think he can go back. So I
think that you could say he's a credible assyle. Okay,
you that is amazing. You are gonna be nerding out
because my wife.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Is a superhero movie junkie, super nerd. All the boys
go to all the movies and everything else. She actually
was upset that all the super Superman people are mad
at me, and she sent me this because you're gonna
build on this.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Buck. She's also a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
She said they're totally wrong, and she said what you
just said, Buck, Superman is actually a true asylum seeker.
His planet was destroyed, all his culture and people are destroyed.
His first landing is on American soil in Kansas. This
is Laura Travis Lawyer. He's orphaned as his parents die,
(12:14):
so he's legally adopted by the kents who are American citizens,
thus giving him American citizenship even if not for one
and two. He has unique talents of great use to
the US that would be impossible to find after a
thorough search for other candidates, thus qualifying him for eb
DASH one, a controversially visa and legal channel to full citizenship.
(12:38):
On top of all this, he ends up being one
of the most productive and useful members of society, choosing
to hold two full time jobs as both a journalist
and a crime fighting superhero.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now this is also absolutely, absolutely spot on Crew. I
didn't know that that was I didn't know that Laura
had written any of that. It's absolutely correct. So the people,
the director of this movie saying he's just like an immigrant,
no jackass, that's not even that's not even vaguely correct.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And this also builds on something that I that I
was getting at when this went megaviral. I would believe
if you gave me Buck, if you if you and I,
if I left this show and I suddenly became a
Hollywood movie director, if you gave me hundreds of millions
of dollars to make a movie, it might well end
an utter disaster. Remember, Fox had to sell off the
(13:29):
lot at the Pico and Motor part of it where
the Westfield Mall is now for those of you out
in LA, because they lost so much money on Cleopatra
with Elizabeth Taylor back in the day for the movie nerds.
So it may well end in unmitigated disaster and the
company might lose tons of money. But it wouldn't be
because I said to half the country, hey, I'm trying
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to make an intensely political movie. I would go full
Michael Jordan Republicans by sneakers too. I don't think it
would have been smart. James gunn to say, Hey, I
think it's super timely that Superman would come out right
now because Donald Trump is a super president and he's
super man like in the way that he responded to
(14:13):
the assassination attempt. And I think that if you hate Trump,
you shouldn't come see this movie.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, that wouldn't be smart, right. I actually would agree
with that take, But it wouldn't be smart if you're
trying to appeal to the whole swath of America. And
I mean, look, we got a lot of people who
listen in LA and we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
When is Hollywood going to recognize that the reason why
Tom Cruise is the last Superstar is because he just
wants to make a political popcorn movies that everybody can
sit and watch, that aren't trying to indoctrinate you in
any way and are just about entertaining you for a
(14:55):
great summer movie, right. I just I don't understand why
these people can't get it through their heads that a
political entertainment that everybody can watch it should be the goal.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
No, because the goal these are communists. Their goal is
the indoctrination they view that they've reached a point like
James Gunn is already very rich, already has all the
connections he needs. It is more important to him to
make a movie that he can virtue signal to his
lib friends in Hollywood about than to make a movie
(15:29):
that makes a ton of money at this point, like
if he has to choose between those two things otherwise,
how do you explain things like snow White, which was
an absolute disaster, hundreds of millions lost, and we knew
it was going to lose money the whole time. We're
not making that movie. But it's because they're so ideologically
committed that it is not profit motive first, That's what
they used to say. I might add they you say, oh,
(15:51):
we're just doing what makes money. That's not true. They
care more about the mission of indoctrination than they do
making money with these films. And you see it over
and over again because every time we say this is
going to be a disaster, there's gonna be a bomb.
It pretty much is. The Only exception of that is
the Barbie movie, which was so bad. Was so bad.
(16:12):
I've still never seen it. Oh I watched. I couldn't
get through it. I tried. I watched some of it.
I'm like, this is just trash, trash, and is that
just It was successful because they were just they were
marketing it was gary to women and it's like girl
it was a whole girl power thing, like oh like
Barbie and the nostalgia and everything else. It is an
absolutely garbage movie, absolutely garbage movie. And I you know,
(16:35):
just like people Clay I used to say that Hamilton
was garbage when people were waiting in line for like
three days for tickets. Okay, I was like, guys, I
just know it's garbage, and it is garbage. And now
more and more people agree with me. Because it's just
what it is, Barbie. Eventually everyone's gonna realize nonsense. And
don't get me started on Avatar. Those of you who
like Avatar, Yeah, but Avatar is not to me as
(16:58):
aggressively political. I know, James Campbell, Fern Gully with some
laser guns or whatever. It's preposterous, but it made it
made a lot. I think that there. It did make
a lot of It didn't make a lot of but
that was because the technology. It wasn't because of the storyline.
It was because of the three D and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm just telling you, somebody out there in Hollywood is
gonna get smart enough to just say, I'm not hiring
any of these woke bs moron people. We're just gonna like,
whoever Tom Cruise wants to work with, we're gonna double, triple,
quadruple down with him. All he cares about is making
movies that are gonna be super entertaining, and that's what
(17:35):
we're gonna focus on. And you're gonna mint money. You
are gonna make money hand over fist. Because I just
see stuff like this all the time and it just
makes me throw my hands up because I wanted to
go see Superman. I mean, I'm a I'm a you know,
Middle America guy like I like to go sit in
the movies and have popcorn. I still like going to
the movie theater. I want to go see the new
(17:56):
Jurassic Park, even though I'm sure it's like a total trash.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh, Michael Crichton is rolling over in his grave. Good Heaven.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I enjoy seeing dinosaurs on the movie screen. I like
seeing fighter jets blow things up. I mean, I am
the average American consumer. Why would you alienate anybody from Superman?
You could easily say Superman is an aspirational goal that
is about everyone fulfilling the best possible abilities of their
(18:26):
own innate gifts. Like, it's so easy to sell this movie.
Just don't tell me that it's political and about immigration.
By the way, when most people are opposed right now
to the immigration policies, not even fifty to fifty we
talked about this. It's like sixty five thirty five the
guys a moron. Anyway, I thought you guys would enjoy it.
(18:47):
I do think it's important culturally. But there's people out
there that are furious at me for saying, hey, you know,
maybe Superman should just kind of appeal to everybody and
not be some sort of woke version of Hollywood fantasy.
And when you say that, the little fanboys come running
and uh and tell me my family should burn, My.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Family should burn for my Superman take of all things?
What is the best Superman? Well, I think it's clear
the best Superman of all time, other than of course
our friend Dean Kane, who's fantastic as a person. But
I don't think the Superman show pounds because that's a show,
not a movie. We're talking movies. Just clearing the category
(19:27):
here would be, uh, you know what I'm talking about.
The guy, the Superman guy that he was the Superman
for years, and the Chris forrief, thank you. That's the
best Superman. That's the best Superman. I think, no question
about it. And uh, the other Dean Kan, Dean Kin's
probably listening right now. Maybe he wants to call in.
(19:47):
No no, I said, we love Dean, we love Deed.
But that's a show. That's not a movie. We're talking
movies here. It's going super.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Political here, you know, Tim going back, try toll for everybody.
J Sepher Reeve was a great Superman in when that
come out nineteen seventy eight, the Original Superman.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Those movies also were just you can watch them with
your whole family, yes, and and it was good versus evil,
and it just they're like it was like a fun,
good experience to watch them. And they're really in some
ways almost like you know, the modern modern fable or
modern modern asopsa. You know, it's just I thought it
(20:26):
did really, you know, it was just great stuff. And
they can't make a damn good Superman Superman movie to
save their lives anymore, even they had the super handsome
guy Henry Cavill. His Superman movies trash trash. Why is
it so hard? Clay? I could write a good Superman
movie in a week.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I feel like DC comics in general have really kind
of bombed compared to the Marvel movies.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And I got I got still more takes. But but
just make movies everybody can love. Just make them design
for everybody. It's not hard. Sunday Drop with Clay and
Buck Joe from Mesa, Arizona.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Joe and Mesa. I was trying to explain to my friend,
just like why most of America doesn't even care about
the deportations that are happening, and he flipped out on
me and was saying that I needed to admit that
I hate every other race other than my own anyways.
(21:26):
So in the end, they're just totally brainwashed and there's
nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The law either matters or a dozen has nothing to
do with race, has to do with being a rule
of law society.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Clay, Yeah, and look, I think that a lot of
people are dialed out and just randomly buy into all
of the historyonics. I mean, I think a perfect example
of this is, you know we're gonna hit right now.
The stock market is up again today for another high.
(21:59):
It was only two months ago that they were telling
you that everything was going to collapse and that you
needed to make sure that you sold all your stocks
and that we were headed for basically a nuclear winter
and from an economic perspective, and it just hasn't happened.
And so I think the total fear there is it
(22:21):
works on a lot of people, and they are aware
that emotionally they can play on people's failings as it
pertains to that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Basically we have next up here a lot of Lord
of the Rings nerds in this audience. Oh we didn't
get we said we were going to do the movie thing. Yeah,
that's why I thought of Times. I was doing my
research here New York Times Best. Now, this is a
little bit of a frustration because people don't pay. It's
(22:52):
like when you had a teacher that said, make sure
you read the instructions for the exam before you take
the exam. It's the best movies of the twenty first century.
So anybody who's jumping in with Braveheart or you know
which I love and would be my overall choice, overall
favorite movie all time. That's nineteen ninety eight, I think,
(23:14):
or six or I forget when to nine, I don't know,
but it was. It was definitely in the twentyeth twenty
two zero, twenty eighth century, twenty first century Best Movies
of the twenty first century. This is this is the
New York Times list that came out. We got a
pat producer. I got all of you to tell me
your picks, and I thought they were pretty solid. And
(23:34):
let's say all of you, I mean our team in
New York, New York team. Let's start with you, Ali. Producer, Ali,
what was your best movie of the twenty first century?
You had time to think about this. So you're on
the hot seat now if you forgot what is it?
Oh no, I'm totally on the hot seat. I had
gone with Gladiator, but I had the years all wrong. Yeah,
I it came about hold on gil Ladie. Two thousand. Yes,
(23:57):
it counts in the New York Times list. It does
because that's technically the twenty eighth century.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They have it down at ninety two, so they are
counting anything that's two thousand and beyond.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, that's an outrage. First of all, the fact that
they're counting it and they're putting it at ninety two
is an outrage because Ali, I'd be it would be
a top fiver for me, top fiver for sure. They
put Parasite at number one a foreign film, as the
best movie of the twenty first century, which which I
think is mad at producer Mike. What was yours? You
(24:29):
had a good one? Dark Knight? Were you Dark Knight
or was that Greg? What does producer Mike say? Producer
Dark Knight? Yeah, he was Dark Knight solid. I can't
quibble with that. I have watched that movie probably one
hundred times. I enjoyed the Dark Knight. He really brought
back people think now all the Batman franchise, huge franchise
(24:51):
that was. It was on the ropes after a couple
of really bad Batman movies that bombed big time, including
one with I think the girl from Clueless was in it,
Alicia Silverstone. There was a George Klue No don't even remembers.
George Clooney played Batman and it was such a bad
movie that people don't even remember that he was Batman.
(25:12):
So so the Dark Knight was came back from The
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both great, great options.
Remember twenty first century, we're looking at Clay, what was yours?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I broke it down trio meaning because to me, there
is there's a difference between a kid movie, there's a
difference between a comedy, and there's a difference between a
dramedy drama. So I went with I agree the whole
Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight, that that is
really phenomenal, well done up.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think was the best of the Pixar movies. Up
If You Up is so well done. And then I
think the funniest movie of the twenty first century. I
think it's old school. I just think it is absolutely hysterical. Funny. Well,
that's not even a category. Now you're making up categories funniest.
(26:07):
I think Old School is the funniest movie of the
twenty first century. What's about what's funnier than Old School?
I mean, I think forty year old Virgin's funnier than
Old School.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Forty year old version is very funny. Super Bad is
very funny. Like there's a series of four or five movies.
I think that you could argue, I think the combination
of Will Ferrell Vince Vaughan is tough to beat. Wedding
Crashers also really really funny and well done. But I
think you have to consider what again, best doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Citizen Kane is a phenomenal movie. We talked about yesterday.
Schindler's List is a phenomenal movie.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's hard to sit down and just be like, hey,
let's have some popcorn and watch Schindler's List.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well this is this is like how I feel about
The Pianist p I A. N I S T. To
be clear, the Pianist is a or the past. Maybe
some people say it that way. Is I think a
perfect movie, meaning it is incredibly well done and every
(27:09):
aspect of it, from the acting, to the writing, to
the to this sounds, you know, to the soundtrack to
the I think it's a perfect movie, but it's intense.
It's World War two, it's you know, it's a Jewish
guy who's trying to flee the you know the at
one point it's his neighbors and the Nazis. The Pianist
is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's my
favorite movie because if the Dark Knight trilogy or The
(27:33):
Lord of the Rings movies are on, I'm watching those
instead of The Pianist. I'm just I'm not gonna lie
and be that guy, which brings me to I think
they're private producer, Greg, what was your pick? You didn't
give us, You didn't give us your We're trying to
help you, by the way, for the holiday weekend, everybody,
if you haven't seen any of these, we're giving you
great recommendations for I would argue The Lives of other
is a pretty perfect movie, although it is German language
(27:56):
and that is twenty first century, but again, it's not
a You still haven't even watched that, have you? You
and Laura haven't watched the Lives of Others? And you
have it. Okay, maybe that one because's foreign language. I
can see Laura being like Clay, don't don't you know,
don't torture us. You guys haven't watched Hacksaw Ridge, which
is insane, because that was I gave you that assignment
a long time ago, that movie to be fair.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
To be fair to me, I barely see anything. I
watch stuff with my kids, which is why I've been
watching Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I've watched hundreds of hours of college football, hundreds of
I was gonna say, and I watch a lot of sports.
Let me give you an underrated movie that I think
seems even more contemporary than it was when it came out.
Minority Report. Ah suck No. I'm telling you go back
(28:45):
and watch it now. In an age of AI, it
seems eerily prescient in terms of its foreshadowing of where
we are. Producer Greg is going to weigh in. He
was a he wanted to get on this. Producer Greg,
best movie of a twenty first century? If you were
making this New York Times list, what's number one Dark Knight?
I'm with uh, I'm with your Dark Knight? Got you?
(29:06):
I thought I thought we had double dark Knight. That's
a Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker is the best
bad guy performance that uh, that I think you can
It's that it's the No Country for old men with
what's his name? Uh, you know Lavier Bardem, Javier Bardem
(29:26):
and Hans Gruber in die Hard, which was the first
time that guy was ever in a movie, which is
still amazing. Just watching The Dark Knight knowing that Heath
Ledger was going to in some way kill himself. Like
I watch it now and you're right, the performance is incredible,
But when I watch it, in the back of my mind,
I'm thinking, in order to become this good, he had
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to go to such a dark place that it felt
to me like a lot of people who are actors
and actresses, it's not act that talented, you know what
I mean, Like there are lots of people who are whatever.
Heath Ledger, that was actually an artistic performance as the Joker,
but I think it led him into a world where
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his brain like almost broke.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He went into the darkness, went into the darkness too much.
That has happened with with people that get too into
a role. A lot of people very high in because
I saw a lot of comments about this because I
was on I was on with Will Caine and Carol
Markowitz on Will's show on Fox Play, and that's where
this got some attention. A lot of people have as
their top movies. I would say the ones that I
(30:36):
saw the most. For all of you, all of you
out there, I'd say the one that I saw the most.
As a number one choice was either There Will Be
Blood or No Country for Old Men for best movie
the twenty first century. I view those as both excellent movies,
but it also goes in that category. There Will Be
(30:57):
Blood for me is like watching a masterclass of like Obviously,
Daniel da Lewis is phenomenal and the performances are. But
do I care about anybody in this story? Really No?
Do I like anybody? Really No? And then I think
that unfortunately, No Country for Old Men again very well made,
(31:18):
and I'm not saying it's not a good movie. I'm
just saying, you know, if it's on, am I going
to watch it?
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's so bleak and kind of nihilistic for me, So
I can't get too excited about either one of those.
As a top ten of the twenty first century, they're
both excellent movies, to be clear, but they're not movies.
I've only watched each of those maybe twice, which for
me is not very many.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I also, to me, when it's a book being made
into a movie, I think the excellence of the movie
in many ways reflects the book. And Cormack McCarthy is
probably the greatest author now I'm really gonna get people
fired up. Probably the greatest author of the last thirty years.
(32:00):
And I know he died a couple of years ago,
but if you look at his production in terms of
his talent, and you go all the way back. He
moved eventually his fiction to basically the border with Texas
and Mexico, but he started off as a Tennessee based writer,
and I think he's probably the most talented writer in
(32:23):
America in the last thirty years. And so No Country
for Old Men is a novel by him, and I
think it just reflects the world that he created on
the screen and is actually an illustration of his excellence
as a writer more than it is as a film.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Like if you said, hey, the Great Gatsby, which it isn't,
and it's been made multiple times, most recently with Leonardo DiCaprio.
If you said The Great Gatsby is the best movie
that's ever been made, I would be like, well, it's
a phenomenal novel, and so to me, I strip out
anything that isn't an original movie as a great movie.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Does that make sense to pass a reflection of the
of the book? More than one talkback here before we
get into more talkbacks and calls to close us out,
AA podcast listeners Zeb from Texas, Play.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It, Play and book. This is Zeb from Texas. Love
your show, listen to you every day since Shell took
over for Rush Ditto. Maybe hey, listen, I'm so disappointed
the Yellow Question producer Greg after he's led you right
so many times. Minus Tireth is the capital city of
Gondor after Ausciliath was destroyed by the Orcs and the
(33:34):
Battle of Saaron. Trust your man.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I just this is the nerdiest thing that has ever
been said on the show, which is I just love
I love it. We have listeners who clearly clearly have
a twelve gage across the backseat of the car, have
a stetson on and cowboy boots, and they're lecturing us
about minas tirith As, the city of god As, the
capital of Gondor after Osilias, of course, was destroyed by
(33:59):
the works in the Battle of Sauron. That is that
is our that is our Texas audience rolling around in
a pickup ready for any hovelinas they have to take out.
But you get Lord of the Rings wrong, and they're
dropping knowledge on you. The correction yesterday that I read
is the nerdiest thing that's ever been said on the show.
That talkback, in Buck's analysis of it, is the second
(34:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
It starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm promising you, guys, a bunch of fun Superman movie
fans are mad at me for my take on the
Superman movie, and I can't believe this is real. But
I'm gonna read to you some of the unbelievable emails
that I am being deluged with, and I promise you
(00:38):
that some of you are not gonna be able to
I'm gonna have to be really careful to edit some
of the things that are being said to me. But
I never expected that I was just going to be
at a Superman movie fan, like I'm the Antichrist according
to the Superman movie people right now, so trust me.
Top of next hour, we're gonna have some fun with this.
But on the clock right now, Buck Sexton. Sports Jeopardy
(01:03):
was a category last night. First of all, before we
get to Buck, can we play the flashback of Wolf
Blitzer loose on Celebrity Jeopardy, losing nearly five thousand dollars.
Here I maze More on Twitter shared this would be
I had not seen it. This is from two thousand
and nine CNN's Wolf Blitzer gets destroyed, not on Real Jeopardy,
(01:26):
on Celebrity Jeopardy Cut twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The name of this pasta similar to penny means little mustaches.
Doesn't sound so tasty now, Wolf, what is Fetuccini?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
King David and Jesus both hailed from this town.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wolf.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What is Jerusalem?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
No? An accused person in.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Court along with his council woof, but as a defendant No,
from a larger work well, Cano David No, add one
of this five letter word that refers to an economic
crash and the fear driven rush to sell. Well, what
is a crash? Nope? Well, things have not worked out
as well as you would hope for.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm sure you don't make Final Jeopardy because they're playing
for charity.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You have to be positive, you have to have positive
dollars to be able to make it Final Jeopardy. He
lost almost five thousand dollars on Jeopardy, which is really
hard to do.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So we have we have Jeopardy Sports questions. Thinks he's
gonna Clay thinks he's gonna light me up here. I
give you my word. I have not we did not
coordinate this, and I have not seen or heard these before,
So go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
All right, Here is cut twenty seven. A Jeopardy NFL
question for Buck.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Play it number of points a team gets for a
safety in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Safety in the NFL Buck two. I played Madden for
years in college. Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Here were the Jeopardy answers last night, twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
A play it, Scott, what is three?
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Sorry?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
No, Ra?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What is one? Also incorrect? Sarah? What is two?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Right in the middle, it's two points for a safety.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So the girl finally gets it right. So the two
guys go oh for one to two, and I would
bet they both Wait, you're not gonna ask me a
WNBA question. This is harsh, This is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Honestly, this would have been I this was the thousand
dollars question, so there was a WNBA question. Here It
is cut twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
This Yukon star had an intense spring in twenty twenty five,
playing on her first national championship team and being picked
first in the w NBA draft.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I mean Caitlyn Clark, but that's a good guess, and
in fact, you and ra Hul would have been in
in cahoots. Here cut twenty eight A. Here was Rahul's answer.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Who is Kinglin Clark? No, Carter Sack, that's nobody Beckers,
Paige Beckers.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I now could offer me a million dollar, I wouldn't
get that one. To be fair, I don't think you
would have guessed Kaitlyn Clark because they do have the
picture up. So if you were on Jeopardy like this,
this player is blonde, uh and Kaitlyn Clark is brown haired,
so I think you would have Probably that's a tough one.
That was the thousand dollars question, but you did get
(04:18):
the safety right Sunday, hang with Clay and Buck. Congrats
as you just heard Buck Sexton successfully knowing how many
points of safety is worth, unlike two thirds of the
Jeopardy contestants.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Gonna have a little bit of fun here, and this
is all real. But I want to how funny is
that Wolf Blitzer clip? I mean that that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He would I mean for everybody out there watching, he
is held up as one of the brainiacs of CNN, Right,
wouldn't you say that's probably fair to say that wolf
Blitzer is seen as one of the smarter guys on
the air at CNN.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think that's probably fair. Well, I don't know if
it's as a result of his Jeopardy appearance, but people
have been suggesting that he's like the confused fool for
a while now. Okay, I think so, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
To be fair, he's probably I mean, he's got to
be over seventy now, right, like that clip was from
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I will say, I will say I have heard from
people within this CNN world for a long time. He's
actually a pretty pretty I've heard him super nice guy. Yeah,
he's a nice guy. So I will give him a
polo credit on he's apparently a good dude, and we're
having a little bit of fun at his expense. But
he's paid millions of dollars and he's had a good
run and so you know, but he is apparently fair
unlike most of the CNN anchors, and I could go
(05:36):
through chapter and verse he's apparently a nice guy. To
be fair, if I went on Celebrity Jeopardy and I
lost five thousand dollars, it would go insanely megaviral and
I would. I mean I would have to own it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Right, but all the clips of me missing the questions
and everything else, it would Actually it would probably be
better for me to go and lose a ton of
money than to win a ton of money, because if
I won tons of money, nobody would share it. They
would be like, oh whatever, Clay Travis, still stupid meani
head more on, if I lost like five thousand dollars,
(06:12):
everybody that hates me would share it. So it probably
would go more viral for a collapse than actually being successful. Okay,
I tweeted this last night. I got a sense that
my take this is all real. I got a sense
that my take on Superman the New movie had gone
megaviral because yesterday I woke up and I had an
(06:36):
email from a japan news agency asking if they could
interview me for my take on the new Superman movie.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So when you see the Suntori commercials with Clay Travis
in them or sapporo, you will know that this is
that Clay's big in Japan. Let's just say it, Clay
is big in Japan.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
In my entire career of telling tons of sharing sun
tons of opinions on everything under the Sun. There has
never been any request for me to be interviewed by
any Japanese news agency.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, Cook, I think the one part we have to
let everybody know, though, is that the director James Gunn
I used to be. I will say, if we were
talking like late nineties, early two thousands movies, I was
absolutely dialed in. I have my favorite directors, my favorite actors,
you know, excited about I don't even know who's I
(07:30):
don't know who's been directing movies for the last ten years.
I basically have no idea. I don't pay attention because
I think most movies absolutely stink. Almost all of them
absolutely stink. Now he said something though, here's the quote.
Here's the James gun quote. So this is where it
all started.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
On a Variety magazine, which is like a Hollywood celebrity magazine,
shared a story and said, James Gunn says Superman is
about an immigrant that came from other places. How we've
lost the value of basic human kindness. Yes, it's about politics.
(08:05):
That was James Gunn's take. He is the director of
the new Superman movie that is opening. I think maybe
already are out or opening today or whatever else. I
tweeted three days ago, and this is true. I'm gonna
skip seeing Superman. The director is a moron to say
this publicly the week before release. America is desperate for
a political entertainment. Hollywood's unable to deliver it. And then
(08:30):
I continued, I said, I made a fun movie. I
hope every one of all backgrounds and enjoys. Is it
that hard to say this when you've been given hundreds
of millions of dollars of studio money to make a
summer blockbuster. It feels like Tom Cruise is the only
Hollywood superstar who still gets this. That's what I don't
even think of all my takes, Like I think that
(08:53):
is like one of the most tepid, non hot take,
non crazy takes. It has evidently gone megavirul le and
the Superman community of fans is furious at me, and
this buck just in the last I don't know a
little bit on social media. I got the following messages
(09:15):
sent to me on Instagram from Superman fans. These are
people that are furious at me. This is a representative sample.
I am deluged in angry Superman fan messages. Here is
one hey word that you can't say on the radio.
I just want to let you know Superman has been
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an immigrant since he was created, and that calling stuff
woke means you can't find a good reason to complain.
You're being a bitch, You're an idiot, wrong, You're being used,
You piece of blank. Go kill yourself. James Gunn isn't
the moron you are. Your family will burn for this. Whoa,
(10:03):
Your family will burn for the idea that's from my
Superman movie. Take okay, it's got a good idea to
go mega political.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
This is crazy town. Can I give you I'm gonna
give you a few things here. First of all, Superman
is not an immigrant. If we're gonna play this conversation
out a little bit, let's do it. Okay, Superman is
an alien. He is not a human being who is
subject to another jurisdiction on this planet and has citizenship elsewhere.
He is from another planet. Now, that to me is
(10:34):
actually a good case, especially when your home planet has
been destroyed, as Superman's has. If I remember my comic
book lore, Superman, if anything, would be an asylum seeker,
unlike all of the people who are showing up in
America pretending that their planet was blown up, so to speak,
pretending they can't go back to their home country. They
(10:56):
are just fraudsters. So Superman is an an alien, not
an illegal alien, but an actual alien from another planet.
Does not have a jurisdiction on planet Earth that he
should be in other than America. And I think under
any reasonable view of asylum law, his home planet is gone,
(11:21):
so I don't think he can go back. So I
think that you could say he's a credible assyle. Okay,
you that is amazing. You are gonna be nerding out
because my wife.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Is a superhero movie junkie, super nerd. All the boys
go to all the movies and everything else. She actually
was upset that all the super Superman people are mad
at me, and she sent me this because you're gonna
build on this.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Buck. She's also a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
She said they're totally wrong, and she said what you
just said, Buck, Superman is actually a true asylum seeker.
His planet was destroyed, all his culture and people are destroyed.
His first landing is on American soil in Kansas. This
is Laura Travis Lawyer. He's orphaned as his parents die,
(12:14):
so he's legally adopted by the kents who are American citizens,
thus giving him American citizenship even if not for one
and two. He has unique talents of great use to
the US that would be impossible to find after a
thorough search for other candidates, thus qualifying him for eb
DASH one, a controversially visa and legal channel to full citizenship.
(12:38):
On top of all this, he ends up being one
of the most productive and useful members of society, choosing
to hold two full time jobs as both a journalist
and a crime fighting superhero.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now this is also absolutely, absolutely spot on Crew. I
didn't know that that was I didn't know that Laura
had written any of that. It's absolutely correct. So the people,
the director of this movie saying he's just like an immigrant,
no jackass, that's not even that's not even vaguely correct.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
And this also builds on something that I that I
was getting at when this went megaviral. I would believe
if you gave me Buck, if you if you and I,
if I left this show and I suddenly became a
Hollywood movie director, if you gave me hundreds of millions
of dollars to make a movie, it might well end
an utter disaster. Remember, Fox had to sell off the
(13:29):
lot at the Pico and Motor part of it where
the Westfield Mall is now for those of you out
in LA, because they lost so much money on Cleopatra
with Elizabeth Taylor back in the day for the movie nerds.
So it may well end in unmitigated disaster and the
company might lose tons of money. But it wouldn't be
because I said to half the country, hey, I'm trying
(13:52):
to make an intensely political movie. I would go full
Michael Jordan Republicans by sneakers too. I don't think it
would have been smart. James gunn to say, Hey, I
think it's super timely that Superman would come out right
now because Donald Trump is a super president and he's
super man like in the way that he responded to
(14:13):
the assassination attempt. And I think that if you hate Trump,
you shouldn't come see this movie.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, that wouldn't be smart, right. I actually would agree
with that take, But it wouldn't be smart if you're
trying to appeal to the whole swath of America. And
I mean, look, we got a lot of people who
listen in LA and we've talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
When is Hollywood going to recognize that the reason why
Tom Cruise is the last Superstar is because he just
wants to make a political popcorn movies that everybody can
sit and watch, that aren't trying to indoctrinate you in
any way and are just about entertaining you for a
(14:55):
great summer movie, right. I just I don't understand why
these people can't get it through their heads that a
political entertainment that everybody can watch it should be the goal.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
No, because the goal these are communists. Their goal is
the indoctrination they view that they've reached a point like
James Gunn is already very rich, already has all the
connections he needs. It is more important to him to
make a movie that he can virtue signal to his
lib friends in Hollywood about than to make a movie
(15:29):
that makes a ton of money at this point, like
if he has to choose between those two things otherwise,
how do you explain things like snow White, which was
an absolute disaster, hundreds of millions lost, and we knew
it was going to lose money the whole time. We're
not making that movie. But it's because they're so ideologically
committed that it is not profit motive first, That's what
they used to say. I might add they you say, oh,
(15:51):
we're just doing what makes money. That's not true. They
care more about the mission of indoctrination than they do
making money with these films. And you see it over
and over again because every time we say this is
going to be a disaster, there's gonna be a bomb.
It pretty much is. The Only exception of that is
the Barbie movie, which was so bad. Was so bad.
(16:12):
I've still never seen it. Oh I watched. I couldn't
get through it. I tried. I watched some of it.
I'm like, this is just trash, trash, and is that
just It was successful because they were just they were
marketing it was gary to women and it's like girl
it was a whole girl power thing, like oh like
Barbie and the nostalgia and everything else. It is an
absolutely garbage movie, absolutely garbage movie. And I you know,
(16:35):
just like people Clay I used to say that Hamilton
was garbage when people were waiting in line for like
three days for tickets. Okay, I was like, guys, I
just know it's garbage, and it is garbage. And now
more and more people agree with me. Because it's just
what it is, Barbie. Eventually everyone's gonna realize nonsense. And
don't get me started on Avatar. Those of you who
like Avatar, Yeah, but Avatar is not to me as
(16:58):
aggressively political. I know, James Campbell, Fern Gully with some
laser guns or whatever. It's preposterous, but it made it
made a lot. I think that there. It did make
a lot of It didn't make a lot of but
that was because the technology. It wasn't because of the storyline.
It was because of the three D and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm just telling you, somebody out there in Hollywood is
gonna get smart enough to just say, I'm not hiring
any of these woke bs moron people. We're just gonna like,
whoever Tom Cruise wants to work with, we're gonna double, triple,
quadruple down with him. All he cares about is making
movies that are gonna be super entertaining, and that's what
(17:35):
we're gonna focus on. And you're gonna mint money. You
are gonna make money hand over fist. Because I just
see stuff like this all the time and it just
makes me throw my hands up because I wanted to
go see Superman. I mean, I'm a I'm a you know,
Middle America guy like I like to go sit in
the movies and have popcorn. I still like going to
the movie theater. I want to go see the new
(17:56):
Jurassic Park, even though I'm sure it's like a total trash.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh, Michael Crichton is rolling over in his grave. Good Heaven.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I enjoy seeing dinosaurs on the movie screen. I like
seeing fighter jets blow things up. I mean, I am
the average American consumer. Why would you alienate anybody from Superman?
You could easily say Superman is an aspirational goal that
is about everyone fulfilling the best possible abilities of their
(18:26):
own innate gifts. Like, it's so easy to sell this movie.
Just don't tell me that it's political and about immigration.
By the way, when most people are opposed right now
to the immigration policies, not even fifty to fifty we
talked about this. It's like sixty five thirty five the
guys a moron. Anyway, I thought you guys would enjoy it.
(18:47):
I do think it's important culturally. But there's people out
there that are furious at me for saying, hey, you know,
maybe Superman should just kind of appeal to everybody and
not be some sort of woke version of Hollywood fantasy.
And when you say that, the little fanboys come running
and uh and tell me my family should burn, My.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Family should burn for my Superman take of all things?
What is the best Superman? Well, I think it's clear
the best Superman of all time, other than of course
our friend Dean Kane, who's fantastic as a person. But
I don't think the Superman show pounds because that's a show,
not a movie. We're talking movies. Just clearing the category
(19:27):
here would be, uh, you know what I'm talking about.
The guy, the Superman guy that he was the Superman
for years, and the Chris forrief, thank you. That's the
best Superman. That's the best Superman. I think, no question
about it. And uh, the other Dean Kan, Dean Kin's
probably listening right now. Maybe he wants to call in.
(19:47):
No no, I said, we love Dean, we love Deed.
But that's a show. That's not a movie. We're talking
movies here. It's going super.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Political here, you know, Tim going back, try toll for everybody.
J Sepher Reeve was a great Superman in when that
come out nineteen seventy eight, the Original Superman.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Those movies also were just you can watch them with
your whole family, yes, and and it was good versus evil,
and it just they're like it was like a fun,
good experience to watch them. And they're really in some
ways almost like you know, the modern modern fable or
modern modern asopsa. You know, it's just I thought it
(20:26):
did really, you know, it was just great stuff. And
they can't make a damn good Superman Superman movie to
save their lives anymore, even they had the super handsome
guy Henry Cavill. His Superman movies trash trash. Why is
it so hard? Clay? I could write a good Superman
movie in a week.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I feel like DC comics in general have really kind
of bombed compared to the Marvel movies.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And I got I got still more takes. But but
just make movies everybody can love. Just make them design
for everybody. It's not hard. Sunday Drop with Clay and
Buck Joe from Mesa, Arizona.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Joe and Mesa. I was trying to explain to my friend,
just like why most of America doesn't even care about
the deportations that are happening, and he flipped out on
me and was saying that I needed to admit that
I hate every other race other than my own anyways.
(21:26):
So in the end, they're just totally brainwashed and there's
nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The law either matters or a dozen has nothing to
do with race, has to do with being a rule
of law society.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Clay, Yeah, and look, I think that a lot of
people are dialed out and just randomly buy into all
of the historyonics. I mean, I think a perfect example
of this is, you know we're gonna hit right now.
The stock market is up again today for another high.
(21:59):
It was only two months ago that they were telling
you that everything was going to collapse and that you
needed to make sure that you sold all your stocks
and that we were headed for basically a nuclear winter
and from an economic perspective, and it just hasn't happened.
And so I think the total fear there is it
(22:21):
works on a lot of people, and they are aware
that emotionally they can play on people's failings as it
pertains to that.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Basically we have next up here a lot of Lord
of the Rings nerds in this audience. Oh we didn't
get we said we were going to do the movie thing. Yeah,
that's why I thought of Times. I was doing my
research here New York Times Best. Now, this is a
little bit of a frustration because people don't pay. It's
(22:52):
like when you had a teacher that said, make sure
you read the instructions for the exam before you take
the exam. It's the best movies of the twenty first century.
So anybody who's jumping in with Braveheart or you know
which I love and would be my overall choice, overall
favorite movie all time. That's nineteen ninety eight, I think,
(23:14):
or six or I forget when to nine, I don't know,
but it was. It was definitely in the twentyeth twenty
two zero, twenty eighth century, twenty first century Best Movies
of the twenty first century. This is this is the
New York Times list that came out. We got a
pat producer. I got all of you to tell me
your picks, and I thought they were pretty solid. And
(23:34):
let's say all of you, I mean our team in
New York, New York team. Let's start with you, Ali. Producer, Ali,
what was your best movie of the twenty first century?
You had time to think about this. So you're on
the hot seat now if you forgot what is it?
Oh no, I'm totally on the hot seat. I had
gone with Gladiator, but I had the years all wrong. Yeah,
I it came about hold on gil Ladie. Two thousand. Yes,
(23:57):
it counts in the New York Times list. It does
because that's technically the twenty eighth century.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They have it down at ninety two, so they are
counting anything that's two thousand and beyond.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, that's an outrage. First of all, the fact that
they're counting it and they're putting it at ninety two
is an outrage because Ali, I'd be it would be
a top fiver for me, top fiver for sure. They
put Parasite at number one a foreign film, as the
best movie of the twenty first century, which which I
think is mad at producer Mike. What was yours? You
(24:29):
had a good one? Dark Knight? Were you Dark Knight
or was that Greg? What does producer Mike say? Producer
Dark Knight? Yeah, he was Dark Knight solid. I can't
quibble with that. I have watched that movie probably one
hundred times. I enjoyed the Dark Knight. He really brought
back people think now all the Batman franchise, huge franchise
(24:51):
that was. It was on the ropes after a couple
of really bad Batman movies that bombed big time, including
one with I think the girl from Clueless was in it,
Alicia Silverstone. There was a George Klue No don't even remembers.
George Clooney played Batman and it was such a bad
movie that people don't even remember that he was Batman.
(25:12):
So so the Dark Knight was came back from The
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both great, great options.
Remember twenty first century, we're looking at Clay, what was yours?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I broke it down trio meaning because to me, there
is there's a difference between a kid movie, there's a
difference between a comedy, and there's a difference between a
dramedy drama. So I went with I agree the whole
Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight, that that is
really phenomenal, well done up.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think was the best of the Pixar movies. Up
If You Up is so well done. And then I
think the funniest movie of the twenty first century. I
think it's old school. I just think it is absolutely hysterical. Funny. Well,
that's not even a category. Now you're making up categories funniest.
(26:07):
I think Old School is the funniest movie of the
twenty first century. What's about what's funnier than Old School?
I mean, I think forty year old Virgin's funnier than
Old School.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Forty year old version is very funny. Super Bad is
very funny. Like there's a series of four or five movies.
I think that you could argue, I think the combination
of Will Ferrell Vince Vaughan is tough to beat. Wedding
Crashers also really really funny and well done. But I
think you have to consider what again, best doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Citizen Kane is a phenomenal movie. We talked about yesterday.
Schindler's List is a phenomenal movie.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's hard to sit down and just be like, hey,
let's have some popcorn and watch Schindler's List.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well this is this is like how I feel about
The Pianist p I A. N I S T. To
be clear, the Pianist is a or the past. Maybe
some people say it that way. Is I think a
perfect movie, meaning it is incredibly well done and every
(27:09):
aspect of it, from the acting, to the writing, to
the to this sounds, you know, to the soundtrack to
the I think it's a perfect movie, but it's intense.
It's World War two, it's you know, it's a Jewish
guy who's trying to flee the you know the at
one point it's his neighbors and the Nazis. The Pianist
is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's my
favorite movie because if the Dark Knight trilogy or The
(27:33):
Lord of the Rings movies are on, I'm watching those
instead of The Pianist. I'm just I'm not gonna lie
and be that guy, which brings me to I think
they're private producer, Greg, what was your pick? You didn't
give us, You didn't give us your We're trying to
help you, by the way, for the holiday weekend, everybody,
if you haven't seen any of these, we're giving you
great recommendations for I would argue The Lives of other
is a pretty perfect movie, although it is German language
(27:56):
and that is twenty first century, but again, it's not
a You still haven't even watched that, have you? You
and Laura haven't watched the Lives of Others? And you
have it. Okay, maybe that one because's foreign language. I
can see Laura being like Clay, don't don't you know,
don't torture us. You guys haven't watched Hacksaw Ridge, which
is insane, because that was I gave you that assignment
a long time ago, that movie to be fair.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
To be fair to me, I barely see anything. I
watch stuff with my kids, which is why I've been
watching Harry Potter.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I've watched hundreds of hours of college football, hundreds of
I was gonna say, and I watch a lot of sports.
Let me give you an underrated movie that I think
seems even more contemporary than it was when it came out.
Minority Report. Ah suck No. I'm telling you go back
(28:45):
and watch it now. In an age of AI, it
seems eerily prescient in terms of its foreshadowing of where
we are. Producer Greg is going to weigh in. He
was a he wanted to get on this. Producer Greg,
best movie of a twenty first century? If you were
making this New York Times list, what's number one Dark Knight?
I'm with uh, I'm with your Dark Knight? Got you?
(29:06):
I thought I thought we had double dark Knight. That's
a Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker is the best
bad guy performance that uh, that I think you can
It's that it's the No Country for old men with
what's his name? Uh, you know Lavier Bardem, Javier Bardem
(29:26):
and Hans Gruber in die Hard, which was the first
time that guy was ever in a movie, which is
still amazing. Just watching The Dark Knight knowing that Heath
Ledger was going to in some way kill himself. Like
I watch it now and you're right, the performance is incredible,
But when I watch it, in the back of my mind,
I'm thinking, in order to become this good, he had
(29:52):
to go to such a dark place that it felt
to me like a lot of people who are actors
and actresses, it's not act that talented, you know what
I mean, Like there are lots of people who are whatever.
Heath Ledger, that was actually an artistic performance as the Joker,
but I think it led him into a world where
(30:13):
his brain like almost broke.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
He went into the darkness, went into the darkness too much.
That has happened with with people that get too into
a role. A lot of people very high in because
I saw a lot of comments about this because I
was on I was on with Will Caine and Carol
Markowitz on Will's show on Fox Play, and that's where
this got some attention. A lot of people have as
their top movies. I would say the ones that I
(30:36):
saw the most. For all of you, all of you
out there, I'd say the one that I saw the most.
As a number one choice was either There Will Be
Blood or No Country for Old Men for best movie
the twenty first century. I view those as both excellent movies,
but it also goes in that category. There Will Be
(30:57):
Blood for me is like watching a masterclass of like Obviously,
Daniel da Lewis is phenomenal and the performances are. But
do I care about anybody in this story? Really No?
Do I like anybody? Really No? And then I think
that unfortunately, No Country for Old Men again very well made,
(31:18):
and I'm not saying it's not a good movie. I'm
just saying, you know, if it's on, am I going
to watch it?
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's so bleak and kind of nihilistic for me, So
I can't get too excited about either one of those.
As a top ten of the twenty first century, they're
both excellent movies, to be clear, but they're not movies.
I've only watched each of those maybe twice, which for
me is not very many.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I also, to me, when it's a book being made
into a movie, I think the excellence of the movie
in many ways reflects the book. And Cormack McCarthy is
probably the greatest author now I'm really gonna get people
fired up. Probably the greatest author of the last thirty years.
(32:00):
And I know he died a couple of years ago,
but if you look at his production in terms of
his talent, and you go all the way back. He
moved eventually his fiction to basically the border with Texas
and Mexico, but he started off as a Tennessee based writer,
and I think he's probably the most talented writer in
(32:23):
America in the last thirty years. And so No Country
for Old Men is a novel by him, and I
think it just reflects the world that he created on
the screen and is actually an illustration of his excellence
as a writer more than it is as a film.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Like if you said, hey, the Great Gatsby, which it isn't,
and it's been made multiple times, most recently with Leonardo DiCaprio.
If you said The Great Gatsby is the best movie
that's ever been made, I would be like, well, it's
a phenomenal novel, and so to me, I strip out
anything that isn't an original movie as a great movie.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Does that make sense to pass a reflection of the
of the book? More than one talkback here before we
get into more talkbacks and calls to close us out,
AA podcast listeners Zeb from Texas, Play.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It, Play and book. This is Zeb from Texas. Love
your show, listen to you every day since Shell took
over for Rush Ditto. Maybe hey, listen, I'm so disappointed
the Yellow Question producer Greg after he's led you right
so many times. Minus Tireth is the capital city of
Gondor after Ausciliath was destroyed by the Orcs and the
(33:34):
Battle of Saaron. Trust your man.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I just this is the nerdiest thing that has ever
been said on the show, which is I just love
I love it. We have listeners who clearly clearly have
a twelve gage across the backseat of the car, have
a stetson on and cowboy boots, and they're lecturing us
about minas tirith As, the city of god As, the
capital of Gondor after Osilias, of course, was destroyed by
(33:59):
the works in the Battle of Sauron. That is that
is our that is our Texas audience rolling around in
a pickup ready for any hovelinas they have to take out.
But you get Lord of the Rings wrong, and they're
dropping knowledge on you. The correction yesterday that I read
is the nerdiest thing that's ever been said on the show.
That talkback, in Buck's analysis of it, is the second
(34:23):
nerdiest thing that's ever been said on the show.
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