October 5, 2025 • 21 mins
Why does RFK work out in jeans? Clay’s daily workout and the pullup/pushup challenge. Bench press politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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The Sunday Hang with Play podcast. It starts now our
friend Pete heccept Secretary Defense out there in a video ladies,
(00:22):
sadly he has a shirt on during it. But uh,
but does I think RFK Junior does not have his
shirt on during it? Right? Is that? Am I correct
in that?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, no, he's got his shirt at least that I
got a shut Yeah, okay, all right, because because he
does like to work out without a shirt, we're aware
of that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But that's what that's a choice.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Whatever. We all get that. Why does RFK Junior work
out in jeans?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's diabolical.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm I'm not. I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert,
clearly not. Okay, we've all we are. I'm not saying,
but jeans are not a comfortable thing to work out in.
And about is every every belt and a belt jeans
with a belt on like Incredible Hulk style, except the
jeans aren't all like broken from where I get it,
if you're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me just
(01:07):
wrap out twenty push ups to show what good shape
I'm in. It's not scheduled, but they had a scheduled
workout and RFK rolled in in jeans and a belt
to do a push up and pull up challenge, and
I just it's I think it's diabolical.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't know what the thought process is.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Maybe the late the least comfortable outfit to work jeans
like starchy, uncomfortable wrangler Levi Ey's whatever it is, jeans
and a belt like I don't even like wearing belts
for normal life. It's weird. So why is he doing it?
I'm just throwing this out there Sunday Hey with Buck,
(01:52):
But I'm watching this video of RFK Junior in his
big Timberland boots and his UH and his jeans and
his belt and he's on a ski park. You know,
why not just why not just.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Go all in?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's wild the number of you that are arguing with me.
So I shared this video and it's Pete hag Set
Defense Secretary RFK Junior. They're trying to get people to
work out more and the challenge was fifty pull ups.
And one hundred push ups in five minutes. And I said,
that is insanely difficult, and a ton of you are
(02:31):
in the mentions like, that's not that hard unless you
are a freak athlete. One hundred real pushups and fifty
real pull ups in five minutes. I think one in
ten thousand men can complete that challenge right now. Now,
(02:53):
maybe you're the one in ten thousands. I was with
you til the one in ten I think. I don't
think it's one in ten thousand. I don't think. I
don't think it's what age range are we talking to,
because I mean, you know, some of you are very
harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Klay
are middle aged men. Clay's gonna be fifty soon, for
heaven's sakes, Like, we're not twenty five anymore, guys, you know,
back off. I'm not talking about people that are in
(03:16):
professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The
average guy probably weighs too twenty. What do you think
the average weight in America is right now? To twenty
in your forties you have to adjust for age, right yeah,
The average American male, I bet weighs about two twenty
to two thirty at in their forties, that would be mine.
Most guys can rocket Crockett. Most guys cannot bench press
(03:41):
their body weight. We had this discussion, like not even
close to being able to bench press their body This
is where the the pull ups becomes much tougher, because
that's a strength to This is where people like your
wife and my wife, who are strong for their size,
makes a difference. Right when I was forty pounds heavier,
I could bench a lot more than I could bench
(04:01):
right now actually, and that was only a year ago.
But pull ups definitely better at pull ups now than
I was forty pounds heavier. So this is what you
got to take into account. Some of these incredible trained
soldiers right now can do it. I think, I think
hardly anyone can do that. I don't I don't know
how many people listening to us right now could do it.
(04:23):
That is really hard. I mean, your middle aged guy post,
post your photo, post your video is doing this challenge
and we'll put some good ones up on the website.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah with a click down.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
By the way, this is because women, you know push
ups and uh and pull ups, you know, they can
get it on this too.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
According to the CDC, the average American man in his
middle age is about two hundred pounds, but Clay, to
be fair of the average height is five to nine,
So I the height was a little less than I remember,
you know, than I had thought. So if you're six
feet tall, I'd say the average probably weighed is more
like two fifteen to twenty. But the average weight overall
is two hundred pounds. Man Clay thinks that it is
(05:04):
very impressive. He thinks it is a one in ten
thousand shot for a guy in middle age to be
able to do what it's one hundred push ups and
fifty pull ups in five minutes. And I mean, if
you doubt me on this, just go. You made a
good challenge. But I mean, I think these things are fun,
Like it's good to test yourself. It's good to challenge yourself.
(05:24):
You and I like to try to do these things.
But I don't like I feel comfortable. I can do
one hundred push ups in five minutes, no issue, right,
I think I could do fifty pull ups in five minutes,
no issue. But to do both in five minutes you
have to be in crazy good shape, crazy good and look,
(05:46):
I mean the reality is you have to break it
up in some way, so there's a transition time that
is taking up some of your time as well. I
think probably the way to do it would be to
do sets of ten or twenty push up and then
try to do five or ten pull ups at a time,
so you minimize the number amount of time you're transitioning
(06:07):
between the two different workouts. Because most people are not
going to be able to do one hundred straight push
ups or fifty straight pull ups. So I think hardly
anybody can do it, and a lot of people don't
realize how difficult it is. And so pull out your
phone at some point today. Just don't injure yourselves. But
at some point today, just pull out your phone and
(06:28):
time yourself trying to do push ups. Most people can
even do ten push ups, right like the average man
sadly cannot just do ten push ups. So the idea
that you're going to do one hundred and you're not
going to be getting worse. Here's a good workout. I
do this workout most days now. I do one hundred squats,
I do one hundred push ups, and I do one
(06:49):
hundred sit ups.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
In right around twelve minutes. It's easy, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I do sets of ten, and I mean that's a
challenge time wise, but it doesn't take up very much times.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Great workout, it's all natural. You don't have to have.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Any fancy attributes or you know, bench press machines or
anything else. Just your body. One hundred and one hundred
and one hundred in about twelve minutes is a really good challenge.
Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I
like that that they're putting challenges out there. But the
number of people who are just like this is not hard.
I just I mean, unless you are professionally in good shape,
(07:25):
it is really hard to do so challenges out there.
Gauntlet Throne. I bet hardly anybody in the Clay and
Buck audience can do it right now. Yeah, well, oh
hardly anyone. No, We've we got a lot of meat
eaters in this audience. Man, we got we got play.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Even even fifty pull ups, real pull up.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There's some former there's some retired Green Berets and seals
and rangers and you know, state troopers and firemen, and
they're like clay tracks. It is gay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Seth is in really good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I think that's fair to say for a forty five
year old guy, hegseeth is in the top ten percent
best shape. I don't think anybody could argue that he
couldn't do it. Really Yeah, and RFK Junior couldn't do
it now. RFK Junior is like seventy some odd years old.
May may have a little bit of a of a.
I got something to throw in the mix here. We're
(08:18):
gonna get back to serious stuff in a second policy
fixing DC crime, I promise, because we may be rolling
with the secondary defense at some point. We've talked to
him and his team about this to join the press
pool so officially along in some capacity on the road somewhere.
Do you think you could be Pete in an arm
wrestling match?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't think so. I mean, he's got pretty big guns.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you know, you know, slouch there, Travis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean, I just I think Pete Pete is like
in really good shape. I think I could beat most
Trump Cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I think
Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump.
I got an advantage age wise, RFK Junior. I might
demand a drug test because I think that guy is
he's got a little bit of a p he's got
(09:06):
to got some Barry bonds going in his favor. The
CDC should study whatever rfk's drug test comes out, as
that would be interesting or not CDC. You know the
n I H or whatever or not hhs wherever he runs.
Sorry I keep forgetting what he runs. But yes, I
think that uh man, I'm a little surprised. I thought
you were gonna say I was looking forward to this
because I was obviously going to be on the you know,
(09:26):
the uh do O D plane videoing Clay and the
Secretary of Defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion.
But another time I'll find another one. We're gonna get you.
We're gonna get you in some kind of a physical
challenge here with some Besson's got no chance. What nick
those guys would I would wreck throws a mean punch.
Some people said I got twenty years on Bessant. I
(09:50):
think I would. I think I would wreck Bessant. Tulsi
Tulsi actually strong. I think as being a man, I
should be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi. U kind
of running through the cabinet members Linda McMahon. She has
no hope her husband vents another steroid guy would have
some would have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
A good chance against me. I think, even though he's
almost eighty.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I still think we're gonna get you and Peep, We're
gonna have to do your stuf. We'll have to do
like a pull up child or something with YouTube.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck Mom.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Donnie over the weekend decided to hop on a bench
press at a public event and he was unable to
do I went back and looked at the pictures. It
is forty five pound plates on each side and a
bar traditionally one hundred and thirty five pounds. He couldn't
(10:40):
do it one time. And I understand some of you
may never have been in a gym, you may never
have laid down on a bench press, you may never
have done it at all. I do think this is
emblematic of why young men are just completely rejecting the
Democrat Party. I'll give you a story on Buck. Yesterday,
(11:01):
my fourteen year old, he's a ninth grader, came home
and he had been with a friend over the weekend
and he said, Dad, I just got one hundred and
fifty five one time on my bench press and he
was so excited about it, and you know, I gave
him a high five, as dads do. He's playing football,
(11:21):
he wants to lift, he wants to get stronger. All
of his friends see saying someone is a Democrat as
an insult. These are kids from all different backgrounds, and
I do think that this inability to just connect with
normal men is emblematic of Zorron Mundami's inability to bingch Am.
(11:44):
I making too much of this, or do you think
it's a symbol of Democrat weakness and also just an
inability to understand average male voters. That is incredible weakness. No,
it took some time for it really to sink in
what the Democrat ideology and the talking points the orthodoxy
(12:07):
was around things like toxic toxic masculinity. Remember I had
this discussion on the Bill Maher show right before the
election where I said Trump is going to win and
this is why, and this is one of the reasons why.
Sure enough, that was all correct, even though I would
say the audience actually didn't boo really well. Remember we
went back and watched this again. The audience is willing
(12:28):
to hear it out because I think that they realized
some of them knew at least the train that was
coming down the tracks, and the Trump train was already
going too too. I mean it was on the way
at that point. It was October is, right before the election.
But Clay, that we talked about, you know, toxic masculinity
and masculinity in general. First of all, I remember one
of the other panelists there, maybe is still maybe still
(12:49):
has a job at CNN. I don't know. I've been
quite honest with you. I don't think so. I don't know.
Maybe he's a contributor there. And she said, why are
we talking about man? We should be talking about women
of minorities. Basically, it's like, well, the topic is masculinity,
so you know if that topic I think we can
talk about completely expected right that she would immediately say,
I don't know why we're talking Yeah, why are you
(13:09):
talking about this?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, it's the topic.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then and then when I try to get into it,
I said, if you look at masculine virtues, you're not
allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a democrat, and
democrats are not allowed to say you can't say things
like courage, bravery because they'll say, what do you mean, well,
women have that too. It's like, okay, yeah, but we're
trying to you know, we're trying to look at what
is true generally genetically about men and women in the aggregate,
(13:36):
and fundamentally men and women are different. Uh. And this
is what the Democrat Party decided they were going to
just they were going to destroy this difference. They were
going to destroy it with the trans issue, but also
more generally, they were going to destroy it. Women should
conduct themselves like men, should pursue the same ends as men,
should have the same life aspirations as men. And you know,
(13:58):
this is where you can get into the it's fine
if a woman doesn't want to have a family, of course.
It's fine if a woman wants to choose a career first,
of course, and they should have that full right to do.
But as a society, generally speaking, some things tend to
be true about men and women, about the careers they choose,
about the hours they put in, about the and it's
(14:19):
okay to promote that. It's okay to say, hey, this
is actually a good thing for men to do, or
this is a good thing for women to do. In
general and Democrats ran against all of that, and you
find you find yourself thinking, you know, they also just
they got rid of a lot of the words that
you would use to describe wimpy men or wimpy mens.
You know, I don't even really know how you're supposed
(14:41):
to talk about this anymore. But this is where they
found themselves as a party, and they won't walk back
from this. They're starting to try, I said, Gavin Newsom
is putting out like he put out. Okay, here's the
perfect example. Gavin Newsen put out or his team put
out same thing. A photo, right, you saw this clay
of him in high school. Yeah, he's got like a
(15:03):
long scarf on, he's got like, you know, slick hair,
and he's like hey, and you know, and Jade Vance
looking a little bit like a Dufus. But you know,
it's a high school and a lot of us look
like Dufus is in high school. And the whole thing,
I guess is like, I'm like handsome, cool Gavin Newsom,
unlike this guy who was like a dork in high school.
And it's like, well, he's a vice president of the
United States. You know, he's been incredibly successful he actually
(15:26):
looks great now. I think he would kick Gavin Newsom's
ass in a fight. Not that that matters, but if
we're talking about this stuff, and every time they try
to do this clay, it rings hollow. Every time they
try to go down the masculinity pathway, it rings hollow
because Democrats will tear down what they're saying. Yes, and
Gavin Newsom is almost sixty. I was cool in high school.
(15:48):
Is not something that I think appeals very much to
people when they look at a sixty year old. I
think that men are not above criticism. And this is
why I look at the Zora' mom dammy attempted bench press.
And for those of you who don't know, one hundred
and thirty five pounds is a goal that a fourteen
(16:10):
or fifteen year old boy who is trying to play
football would aspire to, right, I think for people out
there who don't know, one plate on each side, a
forty five, which is the typical top weight, is a
goal that young young boys, I would say, maybe some
of you out there haven't been able to do it yet,
I'd say that's that's a good goal. You want to
(16:30):
be able to have at least one plate, and then
for you and me, I bet it was when I'm
you know, twenty years old or nineteen or whatever I was.
I want to get two plates, right, I want to
be able to do two twenty five, which is a
lot of weight to bench press. But if you ever
go into a gym, that is the goal. That's how
most men and some women, but most men would progress.
They'd say, I want to get one plate on each side,
(16:51):
and then eventually I want to play and I can
both bench press to twenty five. And so for any
of you who are doubters or haters out there, that
video will be could be forthcoming very quickly. We could
both bench to twenty five. Okay, so before before all
the snark comes flying our way. But by the way,
to be fair, don't know how many reps on two
twenty five I would get, but I can definitely notice.
(17:12):
I said, we can bench it. You can mention it.
I can bench it. We can both do two twenty five.
As we're having this Mam Donni conversation. So when I
look at it, I just think to myselves. The criticism
of men to me that I would give is that
men are not masculine enough. And that the failure of
(17:33):
masculinity is that men are not strong enough both mentally
and physically to take on the responsibilities that we as
men should. And so when I see someone who is
physically weak, like Mom Donnie, it doesn't make me think, oh,
this is someone who believes in strong men.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is it symbolic? Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Are there people who are incredibly weak that are very
strong wrong mentally, certainly that occurs. But when you are
thirty three years old, like Mom Donnie, and it looks
to me like you you don't even know how to
hold a bench, hold the bar, You've never been on
a bench before, it is a sign I think of
weakness mentally and physically. When it comes to the masculine idea,
(18:18):
it all ties in too with the ideology because victim ideology.
That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy.
You go down all of these thoughts, all these talking points.
These democrats embrace this stuff, right, Yes, everybody gets a trophy.
(18:38):
Competitiveness is wrong. Oh I'm a victim. My choices don't matter.
I'm not accountable. Other people hold me down. I'd be stronger,
I'd be thinner, I'd be smarter, I'd be more successful
if somebody else, somebody else wasn't doing what they're You know,
this is very central to the modern Democrat party ethos,
(18:59):
and for people will say, well, what about all the
lib billionaires. First of all, look at Jeff Bezos. Guy
gets rich enough and you know he's taken enough steroids
to uh, you know, probably give a horse a heart attack.
So you know there's they want to be strong too
in some cases. And by the way, I think he's
gotten a little bit more right wing as he's gotten stronger,
So I'm actually all for it. And and you look
(19:20):
at which actually goes to your point, which I think
is well taken, that if you just measured testosterone levels
as testosterone goods up, Republican voting becomes more likely. I
think it would be. I think it would be the
one of the strongest indicators. If you did blood tests
of every American man walking into a voting booth, there
would be some there would be some exceptions. There would
(19:40):
be I think particularly, I think the correlation would break
down among some minority voters where it wouldn't you know
it would, But I think among among white men you
would have probably a pretty high you know, just because
of the UH, I think you'd have probably a pretty
high correlation with low t and and voting Democrat. Yes,
(20:02):
I think that is true. I think it is true,
and it might be true of the broader mail population
as well. I just have to think about, you know,
voting allegiance, cultural influences. There's other things too. But if
you just walk around and you had a good sense
as to what the average testoscer and level of a
room is, I think you'll have a pretty good a
pretty good sense. Again, it's not perfect, but a pretty
good sense about the politics. I tweeted that if you
(20:24):
only allowed people who could bench their body weight to
vote Republicans, who would win ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't think it would be close.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like if you just said, hey, instead of being eighteen
new rule, you have to be able to bench your
body weight to be able to vote, I think it
would be a massive Republican landslide. Yeah. Well, strength is
something that and you know, generally physical fitness, i'd say,
but strength is something where you either ken or you can't,
and it forces you to at least think in the
real world better version of can can someone kick your ass?
(20:55):
Or not? A lot of guys you sit down, and
by the way, you don't always know that's certainly the case,
but guys generally will think about this, like if I
had to take this guy, could I take this guy?
It's very right wing thought. Left wing is not too
enbrace not to even engage, I think, in this kind
of thinking and to assume that the world does not
revolve at some level around these power dynamics and power relationships,
(21:17):
which it still does, even if the left and the
collectivists don't want it to.
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The Sunday Hang with Play podcast. It starts now our
friend Pete heccept Secretary Defense out there in a video ladies,
(00:22):
sadly he has a shirt on during it. But uh,
but does I think RFK Junior does not have his
shirt on during it? Right? Is that? Am I correct
in that?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, no, he's got his shirt at least that I
got a shut Yeah, okay, all right, because because he
does like to work out without a shirt, we're aware
of that.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But that's what that's a choice.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Whatever. We all get that. Why does RFK Junior work
out in jeans?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's diabolical.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm I'm not. I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert,
clearly not. Okay, we've all we are. I'm not saying,
but jeans are not a comfortable thing to work out in.
And about is every every belt and a belt jeans
with a belt on like Incredible Hulk style, except the
jeans aren't all like broken from where I get it,
if you're campaigning and you're like, hey, let me just
(01:07):
wrap out twenty push ups to show what good shape
I'm in. It's not scheduled, but they had a scheduled
workout and RFK rolled in in jeans and a belt
to do a push up and pull up challenge, and
I just it's I think it's diabolical.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't know what the thought process is.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Maybe the late the least comfortable outfit to work jeans
like starchy, uncomfortable wrangler Levi Ey's whatever it is, jeans
and a belt like I don't even like wearing belts
for normal life. It's weird. So why is he doing it?
I'm just throwing this out there Sunday Hey with Buck,
(01:52):
But I'm watching this video of RFK Junior in his
big Timberland boots and his UH and his jeans and
his belt and he's on a ski park. You know,
why not just why not just.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Go all in?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's wild the number of you that are arguing with me.
So I shared this video and it's Pete hag Set
Defense Secretary RFK Junior. They're trying to get people to
work out more and the challenge was fifty pull ups.
And one hundred push ups in five minutes. And I said,
that is insanely difficult, and a ton of you are
(02:31):
in the mentions like, that's not that hard unless you
are a freak athlete. One hundred real pushups and fifty
real pull ups in five minutes. I think one in
ten thousand men can complete that challenge right now. Now,
(02:53):
maybe you're the one in ten thousands. I was with
you til the one in ten I think. I don't
think it's one in ten thousand. I don't think. I
don't think it's what age range are we talking to,
because I mean, you know, some of you are very
harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Klay
are middle aged men. Clay's gonna be fifty soon, for
heaven's sakes, Like, we're not twenty five anymore, guys, you know,
back off. I'm not talking about people that are in
(03:16):
professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The
average guy probably weighs too twenty. What do you think
the average weight in America is right now? To twenty
in your forties you have to adjust for age, right yeah,
The average American male, I bet weighs about two twenty
to two thirty at in their forties, that would be mine.
Most guys can rocket Crockett. Most guys cannot bench press
(03:41):
their body weight. We had this discussion, like not even
close to being able to bench press their body This
is where the the pull ups becomes much tougher, because
that's a strength to This is where people like your
wife and my wife, who are strong for their size,
makes a difference. Right when I was forty pounds heavier,
I could bench a lot more than I could bench
(04:01):
right now actually, and that was only a year ago.
But pull ups definitely better at pull ups now than
I was forty pounds heavier. So this is what you
got to take into account. Some of these incredible trained
soldiers right now can do it. I think, I think
hardly anyone can do that. I don't I don't know
how many people listening to us right now could do it.
(04:23):
That is really hard. I mean, your middle aged guy post,
post your photo, post your video is doing this challenge
and we'll put some good ones up on the website.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah with a click down.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
By the way, this is because women, you know push
ups and uh and pull ups, you know, they can
get it on this too.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
According to the CDC, the average American man in his
middle age is about two hundred pounds, but Clay, to
be fair of the average height is five to nine,
So I the height was a little less than I remember,
you know, than I had thought. So if you're six
feet tall, I'd say the average probably weighed is more
like two fifteen to twenty. But the average weight overall
is two hundred pounds. Man Clay thinks that it is
(05:04):
very impressive. He thinks it is a one in ten
thousand shot for a guy in middle age to be
able to do what it's one hundred push ups and
fifty pull ups in five minutes. And I mean, if
you doubt me on this, just go. You made a
good challenge. But I mean, I think these things are fun,
Like it's good to test yourself. It's good to challenge yourself.
(05:24):
You and I like to try to do these things.
But I don't like I feel comfortable. I can do
one hundred push ups in five minutes, no issue, right,
I think I could do fifty pull ups in five minutes,
no issue. But to do both in five minutes you
have to be in crazy good shape, crazy good and look,
(05:46):
I mean the reality is you have to break it
up in some way, so there's a transition time that
is taking up some of your time as well. I
think probably the way to do it would be to
do sets of ten or twenty push up and then
try to do five or ten pull ups at a time,
so you minimize the number amount of time you're transitioning
(06:07):
between the two different workouts. Because most people are not
going to be able to do one hundred straight push
ups or fifty straight pull ups. So I think hardly
anybody can do it, and a lot of people don't
realize how difficult it is. And so pull out your
phone at some point today. Just don't injure yourselves. But
at some point today, just pull out your phone and
(06:28):
time yourself trying to do push ups. Most people can
even do ten push ups, right like the average man
sadly cannot just do ten push ups. So the idea
that you're going to do one hundred and you're not
going to be getting worse. Here's a good workout. I
do this workout most days now. I do one hundred squats,
I do one hundred push ups, and I do one
(06:49):
hundred sit ups.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
In right around twelve minutes. It's easy, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I do sets of ten, and I mean that's a
challenge time wise, but it doesn't take up very much times.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Great workout, it's all natural. You don't have to have.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Any fancy attributes or you know, bench press machines or
anything else. Just your body. One hundred and one hundred
and one hundred in about twelve minutes is a really good challenge.
Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I
like that that they're putting challenges out there. But the
number of people who are just like this is not hard.
I just I mean, unless you are professionally in good shape,
(07:25):
it is really hard to do so challenges out there.
Gauntlet Throne. I bet hardly anybody in the Clay and
Buck audience can do it right now. Yeah, well, oh
hardly anyone. No, We've we got a lot of meat
eaters in this audience. Man, we got we got play.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Even even fifty pull ups, real pull up.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
There's some former there's some retired Green Berets and seals
and rangers and you know, state troopers and firemen, and
they're like clay tracks. It is gay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Seth is in really good shape.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I think that's fair to say for a forty five
year old guy, hegseeth is in the top ten percent
best shape. I don't think anybody could argue that he
couldn't do it. Really Yeah, and RFK Junior couldn't do
it now. RFK Junior is like seventy some odd years old.
May may have a little bit of a of a.
I got something to throw in the mix here. We're
(08:18):
gonna get back to serious stuff in a second policy
fixing DC crime, I promise, because we may be rolling
with the secondary defense at some point. We've talked to
him and his team about this to join the press
pool so officially along in some capacity on the road somewhere.
Do you think you could be Pete in an arm
wrestling match?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I don't think so. I mean, he's got pretty big guns.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you know, you know, slouch there, Travis.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean, I just I think Pete Pete is like
in really good shape. I think I could beat most
Trump Cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I think
Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump.
I got an advantage age wise, RFK Junior. I might
demand a drug test because I think that guy is
he's got a little bit of a p he's got
(09:06):
to got some Barry bonds going in his favor. The
CDC should study whatever rfk's drug test comes out, as
that would be interesting or not CDC. You know the
n I H or whatever or not hhs wherever he runs.
Sorry I keep forgetting what he runs. But yes, I
think that uh man, I'm a little surprised. I thought
you were gonna say I was looking forward to this
because I was obviously going to be on the you know,
(09:26):
the uh do O D plane videoing Clay and the
Secretary of Defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion.
But another time I'll find another one. We're gonna get you.
We're gonna get you in some kind of a physical
challenge here with some Besson's got no chance. What nick
those guys would I would wreck throws a mean punch.
Some people said I got twenty years on Bessant. I
(09:50):
think I would. I think I would wreck Bessant. Tulsi
Tulsi actually strong. I think as being a man, I
should be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi. U kind
of running through the cabinet members Linda McMahon. She has
no hope her husband vents another steroid guy would have
some would have.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
A good chance against me. I think, even though he's
almost eighty.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I still think we're gonna get you and Peep, We're
gonna have to do your stuf. We'll have to do
like a pull up child or something with YouTube.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck Mom.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Donnie over the weekend decided to hop on a bench
press at a public event and he was unable to
do I went back and looked at the pictures. It
is forty five pound plates on each side and a
bar traditionally one hundred and thirty five pounds. He couldn't
(10:40):
do it one time. And I understand some of you
may never have been in a gym, you may never
have laid down on a bench press, you may never
have done it at all. I do think this is
emblematic of why young men are just completely rejecting the
Democrat Party. I'll give you a story on Buck. Yesterday,
(11:01):
my fourteen year old, he's a ninth grader, came home
and he had been with a friend over the weekend
and he said, Dad, I just got one hundred and
fifty five one time on my bench press and he
was so excited about it, and you know, I gave
him a high five, as dads do. He's playing football,
(11:21):
he wants to lift, he wants to get stronger. All
of his friends see saying someone is a Democrat as
an insult. These are kids from all different backgrounds, and
I do think that this inability to just connect with
normal men is emblematic of Zorron Mundami's inability to bingch Am.
(11:44):
I making too much of this, or do you think
it's a symbol of Democrat weakness and also just an
inability to understand average male voters. That is incredible weakness. No,
it took some time for it really to sink in
what the Democrat ideology and the talking points the orthodoxy
(12:07):
was around things like toxic toxic masculinity. Remember I had
this discussion on the Bill Maher show right before the
election where I said Trump is going to win and
this is why, and this is one of the reasons why.
Sure enough, that was all correct, even though I would
say the audience actually didn't boo really well. Remember we
went back and watched this again. The audience is willing
(12:28):
to hear it out because I think that they realized
some of them knew at least the train that was
coming down the tracks, and the Trump train was already
going too too. I mean it was on the way
at that point. It was October is, right before the election.
But Clay, that we talked about, you know, toxic masculinity
and masculinity in general. First of all, I remember one
of the other panelists there, maybe is still maybe still
(12:49):
has a job at CNN. I don't know. I've been
quite honest with you. I don't think so. I don't know.
Maybe he's a contributor there. And she said, why are
we talking about man? We should be talking about women
of minorities. Basically, it's like, well, the topic is masculinity,
so you know if that topic I think we can
talk about completely expected right that she would immediately say,
I don't know why we're talking Yeah, why are you
(13:09):
talking about this?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, it's the topic.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And then and then when I try to get into it,
I said, if you look at masculine virtues, you're not
allowed to talk about masculine virtues as a democrat, and
democrats are not allowed to say you can't say things
like courage, bravery because they'll say, what do you mean, well,
women have that too. It's like, okay, yeah, but we're
trying to you know, we're trying to look at what
is true generally genetically about men and women in the aggregate,
(13:36):
and fundamentally men and women are different. Uh. And this
is what the Democrat Party decided they were going to
just they were going to destroy this difference. They were
going to destroy it with the trans issue, but also
more generally, they were going to destroy it. Women should
conduct themselves like men, should pursue the same ends as men,
should have the same life aspirations as men. And you know,
(13:58):
this is where you can get into the it's fine
if a woman doesn't want to have a family, of course.
It's fine if a woman wants to choose a career first,
of course, and they should have that full right to do.
But as a society, generally speaking, some things tend to
be true about men and women, about the careers they choose,
about the hours they put in, about the and it's
(14:19):
okay to promote that. It's okay to say, hey, this
is actually a good thing for men to do, or
this is a good thing for women to do. In
general and Democrats ran against all of that, and you
find you find yourself thinking, you know, they also just
they got rid of a lot of the words that
you would use to describe wimpy men or wimpy mens.
You know, I don't even really know how you're supposed
(14:41):
to talk about this anymore. But this is where they
found themselves as a party, and they won't walk back
from this. They're starting to try, I said, Gavin Newsom
is putting out like he put out. Okay, here's the
perfect example. Gavin Newsen put out or his team put
out same thing. A photo, right, you saw this clay
of him in high school. Yeah, he's got like a
(15:03):
long scarf on, he's got like, you know, slick hair,
and he's like hey, and you know, and Jade Vance
looking a little bit like a Dufus. But you know,
it's a high school and a lot of us look
like Dufus is in high school. And the whole thing,
I guess is like, I'm like handsome, cool Gavin Newsom,
unlike this guy who was like a dork in high school.
And it's like, well, he's a vice president of the
United States. You know, he's been incredibly successful he actually
(15:26):
looks great now. I think he would kick Gavin Newsom's
ass in a fight. Not that that matters, but if
we're talking about this stuff, and every time they try
to do this clay, it rings hollow. Every time they
try to go down the masculinity pathway, it rings hollow
because Democrats will tear down what they're saying. Yes, and
Gavin Newsom is almost sixty. I was cool in high school.
(15:48):
Is not something that I think appeals very much to
people when they look at a sixty year old. I
think that men are not above criticism. And this is
why I look at the Zora' mom dammy attempted bench press.
And for those of you who don't know, one hundred
and thirty five pounds is a goal that a fourteen
(16:10):
or fifteen year old boy who is trying to play
football would aspire to, right, I think for people out
there who don't know, one plate on each side, a
forty five, which is the typical top weight, is a
goal that young young boys, I would say, maybe some
of you out there haven't been able to do it yet,
I'd say that's that's a good goal. You want to
(16:30):
be able to have at least one plate, and then
for you and me, I bet it was when I'm
you know, twenty years old or nineteen or whatever I was.
I want to get two plates, right, I want to
be able to do two twenty five, which is a
lot of weight to bench press. But if you ever
go into a gym, that is the goal. That's how
most men and some women, but most men would progress.
They'd say, I want to get one plate on each side,
(16:51):
and then eventually I want to play and I can
both bench press to twenty five. And so for any
of you who are doubters or haters out there, that
video will be could be forthcoming very quickly. We could
both bench to twenty five. Okay, so before before all
the snark comes flying our way. But by the way,
to be fair, don't know how many reps on two
twenty five I would get, but I can definitely notice.
(17:12):
I said, we can bench it. You can mention it.
I can bench it. We can both do two twenty five.
As we're having this Mam Donni conversation. So when I
look at it, I just think to myselves. The criticism
of men to me that I would give is that
men are not masculine enough. And that the failure of
(17:33):
masculinity is that men are not strong enough both mentally
and physically to take on the responsibilities that we as
men should. And so when I see someone who is
physically weak, like Mom Donnie, it doesn't make me think, oh,
this is someone who believes in strong men.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Is it symbolic? Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Are there people who are incredibly weak that are very
strong wrong mentally, certainly that occurs. But when you are
thirty three years old, like Mom Donnie, and it looks
to me like you you don't even know how to
hold a bench, hold the bar, You've never been on
a bench before, it is a sign I think of
weakness mentally and physically. When it comes to the masculine idea,
(18:18):
it all ties in too with the ideology because victim ideology.
That's not fair. Let's not compete. Everybody gets a trophy.
You go down all of these thoughts, all these talking points.
These democrats embrace this stuff, right, Yes, everybody gets a trophy.
(18:38):
Competitiveness is wrong. Oh I'm a victim. My choices don't matter.
I'm not accountable. Other people hold me down. I'd be stronger,
I'd be thinner, I'd be smarter, I'd be more successful
if somebody else, somebody else wasn't doing what they're You know,
this is very central to the modern Democrat party ethos,
(18:59):
and for people will say, well, what about all the
lib billionaires. First of all, look at Jeff Bezos. Guy
gets rich enough and you know he's taken enough steroids
to uh, you know, probably give a horse a heart attack.
So you know there's they want to be strong too
in some cases. And by the way, I think he's
gotten a little bit more right wing as he's gotten stronger,
So I'm actually all for it. And and you look
(19:20):
at which actually goes to your point, which I think
is well taken, that if you just measured testosterone levels
as testosterone goods up, Republican voting becomes more likely. I
think it would be. I think it would be the
one of the strongest indicators. If you did blood tests
of every American man walking into a voting booth, there
would be some there would be some exceptions. There would
(19:40):
be I think particularly, I think the correlation would break
down among some minority voters where it wouldn't you know
it would, But I think among among white men you
would have probably a pretty high you know, just because
of the UH, I think you'd have probably a pretty
high correlation with low t and and voting Democrat. Yes,
(20:02):
I think that is true. I think it is true,
and it might be true of the broader mail population
as well. I just have to think about, you know,
voting allegiance, cultural influences. There's other things too. But if
you just walk around and you had a good sense
as to what the average testoscer and level of a
room is, I think you'll have a pretty good a
pretty good sense. Again, it's not perfect, but a pretty
good sense about the politics. I tweeted that if you
(20:24):
only allowed people who could bench their body weight to
vote Republicans, who would win ninety five to five.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't think it would be close.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like if you just said, hey, instead of being eighteen
new rule, you have to be able to bench your
body weight to be able to vote, I think it
would be a massive Republican landslide. Yeah. Well, strength is
something that and you know, generally physical fitness, i'd say,
but strength is something where you either ken or you can't,
and it forces you to at least think in the
real world better version of can can someone kick your ass?
(20:55):
Or not? A lot of guys you sit down, and
by the way, you don't always know that's certainly the case,
but guys generally will think about this, like if I
had to take this guy, could I take this guy?
It's very right wing thought. Left wing is not too
enbrace not to even engage, I think, in this kind
of thinking and to assume that the world does not
revolve at some level around these power dynamics and power relationships,
(21:17):
which it still does, even if the left and the
collectivists don't want it to.
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