October 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Buck’s thoughts on The English Patient and Clay’s movie date experiences. Nothing compares to 90’s movies. The Jussie Smollett documentary. Sexy sells.
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It starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm about thirty years late on this one, but I
felt like I finally just had to bite the bullet
and do it. And I watched The English Patient, which
I had never seen before. That movie. That movie sucks.
I mean, that movie is trash. You know, it won
like nine Academy Awards. Back when the Academy Awards meant
something like back when the back when the movies that
you loved were what were this is the nineties, right,
(00:39):
the awesome movies would get nominated, not all of them,
but a lot of them would get nominated for Academy Awards.
Have you ever seen The English Patient?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I mean I have not thought about The English Patient
legitimately in probably thirty years. I went on a high
school date to The English Patient, like the worst place.
It was like the worst I've tried to what I mean,
did you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Get did you get some?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know what I mean? Like?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Was it a good date?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And almost like.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Trying to make out trying to make out during Schindler's List.
I mean, it's like the saddest movie.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is a little tough, and the guy, yeah, he's
he's kind of a sad, sad case. Also though, I
want to be like, so you sold you sold out,
like you love this chick was so important that you
sold out to the Nazis, buddy. I mean, I know
it was Hungarian, but.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I have no recollection other than it was in I
just looked it up. Nineteen ninety six. So I was
seventeen and I went on a date with a sixth joe.
I was I think I was a junior or senior
and I went on one year younger than me, and
I was like, I don't know, I don't know what
I was thinking. It's like the word there's the Seinfeld
I think where he gets.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Caught Wither's List, and yeah, he's making out during Schindler's List. Problem.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The English patient is up there with Schindler's List on
movies that it's the least difficult, most difficult to actually
make out during. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Maybe I'll tell you his hands on the positive side
of things. Uh, I find go back and watch the
movies of the nineties were fantastic, Like that's when they
were making great So if there's a great movie from
the nineties, generally speaking, and you haven't seen it, it's
worth going to see. They don't make good movies anymore.
I know I sound like it like some old man,
but it's true. They just don't make good movies anymore.
(02:16):
Occasionally something will pop up on Netflix that's worthwhile, or
Apple TV or something.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why didn't you watch It's been out for forty years?
Why did you suddenly watch the Was this Carrie's decision?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, because I said, well, I was looking for a
movie night film for us, you know, we had the baby,
and I had watched the Justse Smollette documentary when I
was babysitting on my own the night before because Carrie
went to bed early. And that is incredible. By the way,
the Justse Smollette documentary on Netflix, it's I mean, they
do get into the like, well, there are still questions
(02:48):
and like Justse Smollett is all He's like, you know,
I would never have done this.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And he still he participated in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh yeah, he does interviews. But Clay, they take you
through I mean, I couldn't stop laughing. They take you
through the first hour when you go back and actually
see so I just want to give you on the
good side of things. The Josey Smollett documentary. The first
hour and they have these detectives who are the early one,
you know, the guy's on the case, and they're just
looking at everyone like, I mean, this is the dumbest thing.
This is the most absurd thing we've ever seen. And
of course Kamala and Joe Biden and they're like, oh,
(03:18):
Joseph Smollett. It's just a great trip down memory lane.
And that was back when Twitter was lib dominated and
I had people, I had blue checks coming after me
because I did a podcast when the story broke Clay
and it was Jesse Smollett is lying. That was the
title of the podcast, and man, that was that was
a fun one. Look how dare you? How dare you?
I'm like, yeah, sure. He would hold onto the subway
(03:40):
sandwich and keep the noose around his neck, like, walked
into his apartment and then waited for the cops to come. Right,
I mean, this is it is bonkers. But no, if
you if you want to, if you have a movie
night with your spouse, or whatever coming up if you gotta.
It's rains here a lot in Florida now, so we
have some rainy nights ninety Stuff is great, except for
The English Patient, which is trash. I'm just giving you
(04:02):
this thirty years late announcement because I had never seen
it before.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think it's really funny because I haven't thought about
The English Patient a long time, and I just looked
up the release date. It was the winter fall of
ninety six, so I was a senior in high school.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, I guess I thought this is a romantic movie.
I should take a girl to a romantic movie. It is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I have not thought about that movie, thought that bad
of a date. That there are way worse date movies
than The English Patient. You know, it's not like, I mean,
the Schindler's Listening obviously from Seinfeld was meant to like
they're meant to find the absolute worst possible movie to
try to make out with somebody drink and yeah, there
are other other movies that I would say would be far,
far tougher to watch than that one. All right, well,
(04:45):
you got some talkbacks here, probably not about The English Patient,
but here we go. All right, Glenn FF Glenn from
Ohio who listens on WMA and radio play it.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Hey, Bucket's Glenn from Minsford, Ohio. Clay's always talking sports,
and this is your week to shine into sports. Let's
hear some commentary about the tennis US Open. Great tournament.
Plus it's in New York. And also, how about an
update on your serve, Speed. I don't think I've heard
that or I missed it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Thanks, all right, you're asking for some US Open. I
have been watching at night, so I've been trying to
space out my babysitting routines. Here for Little Speed, which
is my son's name, which I think you all know.
So I've been watching the Open, Clay. I think it's
heading toward Alcaraz Center in the final, and I think
that Center is gonna win the whole thing. I know
(05:32):
a lot of peopleould say Alcaraz, it's a great time
for men's tennis. As for my serve, I will tell
you I have now gotten. I have not given up.
I don't want any of you to think that this
is like, oh like I went out there one time
before the show for thirty minutes in the sun. It's
very hot out there. Some of you noticed, why are
you so sweaty? I don't know, because one hundred and
(05:53):
four degrees on this court and I got hold on,
hold on, hold on, buddy, hold on. I got top
of the line. Now for civilian home use, I guess
it's all for civilian US. It's not military, but for
civilian home US. I got a better radar gun, and
I'm ready to go and get out there. It's got
like a tripod, the whole thing, because the radar gun,
it's the one you hold in your hand, is trash
(06:14):
because it has to be right in line. So I
showed you guys, one servan at ninety seven miles an hour.
I have to serve at fifteen times to get one reading,
basically like it never the readings are not good. So
I got something that should be way better. And now
the only challenge has been rained because it the courts
get wet here every day, so you can't play, and
there's only outdoor courts where I am in Miami. But
(06:36):
the answer to your question is before the US Open
is over, I plan to be out there and we
will break one hundred, my friends, we will break one hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I am curious to hear, and and and and interested
to see. So Lauren Travis was out that look at that,
look at that vote.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of no conference. Three more mph? You know, three more mph.
I don't know, you know, you might throw your should
they're out on that one, I know. I think. The
other thing I'll tell you is it's amazing how everybody
everybody on the internet is a is a firearms expert
and a tennis expert. It's fascinating, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, oh really really, everyone's got commentary going.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I'm like, hmm, it is funny for things that
you know, ninety five percent of people can't do, how
many and look, it could be anything like I'll give
you an example. You and I could both bench two
hundred and twenty five pounds. That is for most men
in their forties, something that they can't do right. Somehow,
(07:38):
the only people who comment are the people who tell
you that you're super weak, right, like almost no one
can do that totally. Like and if I went if
I posted a video of me doing two or three reps,
which I think is about what I would get, some
guy would be like, oh, that's pathetic and you're like, well, actually,
it's like ninety eight percent dial for men my age, Like,
if you're in percent dial in anything, you're pretty good.
(08:03):
And yet on the internet it seems to be made
up by only guys who ridicule anything.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And by the way, for women, the number of guys
out there really pretty girls. Right, pretty girl does something
and for one of the first comments she's not that hot,
it's like, well, who are you dating?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are you married to? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They like to say they like to say mid is
that'd like And people will say like Margot, Margot, Robbie
is mid I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yes, Like, I mean, like Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wants
to be like, she's not that good looking, I'd be like, Okay,
well he's been dating twenty five year old girls for
thirty years. Uh, you know, he's kind of got a
high standard. I can see that. But unless you're picking
models for the cover of Vogue, most girls that are
like Sidney Sweeney, people are like, I don't really think
(08:52):
she's that hot. I'm like, who are you dating that?
Sidney Sweeney?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's not that good.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Look.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There's a lack there's a lack of this is a
chronic thing online there's the in the commentariat, in the
comment section, there's a lack of objectivity that comes out.
I saw this in the tennis thing I have. People
were saying, like, my daughter plays do you want tennis
for UCLA? And she can serve that hard? And I'm like, yeah,
she's an amazing tennis player. What is what are you saying?
She plays d one at UCLA. She could probably go
(09:17):
on the pro tour, Like is this a dunk? I
don't understand. You think you're dunking on me? Like you're
telling me like that's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's just yeat.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Like if you're in the ninetieth percentile on anything, you're
pretty good at it, right, I mean that that is.
And yet on the internet, if you're in the ninetieth percentile,
it's as if people are all I mean even I
guess you know, you could be Michael Jordan and people
are like, well, he's not actually that good because like, well,
you know, maybe the greatest probably the greatest basketball player
(09:45):
of all time.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think maybe he knows a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I do think to just close a little First of all,
the surf thing is not done. Just so you all
though there will be there will be follow up, and
second of all, so don't worry about that. And second
of all, I think that you'll probably find out that
center Sinner might become like the far and away best
tennis player of all time. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He did have a little issue that that's a bold
call when you're talking about the joker Djokovic and how
good he is right now and then obviously following Federer
and all. So Djokovic is on the downslope right like
he's almost forty, started thinking about being forty, but then
the amount that he's racked up in terms of the wins,
most all time majors. But it's really an alcoraz Or
Sinner world that we're coming into here, and they're both
(10:26):
phenomenal players and they're really fun to watch. It is
also fun to see how tennis I don't know if
any sport in our lifetime has transformed more. I mean,
you go back to look at like Jimmy Connors. Jimmy
Connors looks like the guys that my dad plays golf
with on the weekends. Like these are not These do
not look like elite athletes running around the tennis s
court hit.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I know, the rackets are different and everything else. I mean,
now these guys are They're all an incredible cardiovascular shape.
They move incredibly well. The girls too, I mean will look.
Women's tennis is a great spectator sport. Unlike some other things.
It's not like the WNBA sit situation where people are
told they have to watch it. In women's tennis, those women
are incredible athletes and it's a fun it's a good
spectator experience even.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
By the way, I think that's true across the board,
and it's one sign of how people just continue to
get better. Even golf, there's not really John Daies anymore,
or in Hell Cabrera's for those of you out there,
just kind of chubby, not very well. I'm not trying
to take shot to John Daly or and Hell Cabrera,
but they were popular for that reason. There aren't really
(11:27):
very many of those guys in golf. I think you
don't see.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Guys with a thirty pound gut on them smoking cigarettes
at the seventh at the seventh he or whatever, wearing
the plaid pants who are world class golfers right now,
like that you're nazieing.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They don't exist anymore. And I think partly it's the
amount of money, but also people are just more aware
of how to get the most out of your body
and the discipline that it takes to become an excellent athlete.
Now I think is higher than it ever has been before.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Sunday, Hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
This morning, Buck, as I was getting ready for the show,
as I was walking my fifth grader to school, as
I do most mornings, the stock market opened. I looked
down at my phone. I knew it was going to
be a big pop out of the gate. But American
Eagle stock, for those of you who saw the Sydney
(12:22):
Sweeney advertisements and just said, you know what, I think,
a pretty girl in jeans and a company that is
not apologizing for it is likely to do well. Last night,
American Eagle said their Sydney Sweeney ad campaign is so
successful that they are now increasing their earnings expectations and
(12:46):
their profit expectations. And the stock as I speak to
you all today is up thirty two and a half
percent today alone, the stock up for and half dollars.
So if you just heard us talking about this advertisement,
if you just saw them talking about it, on Fox
(13:08):
News and you thought to yourself, you know what, a
pretty girl in jeans seems like a pretty good idea.
And then as you saw all the controversy stirred up
on the left, people saying, oh, this is eugenics. Maybe
we can go back and pull the ABC Good Morning
America story where they put on the expert to say, oh,
(13:30):
this is very troubling. This is calling a blonde hair,
blue eyed girl saying she has good genes as a
pun on j E A N S G E N
E s a clear double entendre. There, if you thought
this is all ridiculous, this is going to work. I
give credit to American Eagle. They didn't run and hide.
(13:52):
I know because my grandma, grandma of my kids, my
mom took a picture of my son at back to
school season is standing in front of a Sydney Sweeney ad.
I know that even grandmas were aware of this ad campaign.
And maybe some of you out there you bought your
kids and your grandkids American Eagle gear just to make
(14:15):
a statement on this buck. I do think that this
is a sign of the culture shift having occurred in
a big way. I think the popularity of football going
through the roof ratings wise, I think it's directly connected
to this pretty girls sports. It's all coming back together again.
(14:35):
It never left popularity, but they wanted to tell us
that fat androgynist model is going to sell lingerie. Guess
what America is not crazy? People like football, they like
pretty girls, and my goodness, you could have made a
lot of money by betting on both.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I want to find out what the next company is
that plans to just do an old school all Americana
good feeling. I mean it seems like a you know,
clay As. You know, we've talked about marketing execs. Madison
Avenue ad execs are among the most woke as a profession,
(15:12):
most woke individuals you'll find anywhere. I mean, they're really
up there with like Broadway choreographers in terms of their politics,
and they are living in some other planet. And I
think because of America's overall prosperity, the dominance of many
American companies, they've been able to get away with their
ideological decisions, ideologically based decisions instead of what's based the
(15:33):
company for a long time. That perhaps is in the
early stages of changing. We shall see. I will say
I haven't seen a change in the advertising kind of companies,
I should say the kind of companies. Advertising and conservative
media haven't seen that happen yet. We were hearing, you know,
early rumbles that this may go on, and now I
(15:55):
think there's a little more of a wait and see
Trump's first year. Let's see if he stays focused and
stays on it. But I think that consumers and the
American people need to continue to push, and that just
means be vocal about your preferences and put your dollars
where your heart is. Actually make decisions based upon where
where companies align with your values. And in some cases
(16:17):
it's just fun and liking America and wanting to sell
a good products that can align with your values. It
doesn't have to be you know, everything is draped in
an American flag and talks about defeating a Communists. Although
that's fine too, but just here trying to use the old,
the oldest trick in the marketing book, a beautiful woman
selling a product to people that they will like. It
(16:39):
turns out that still works if you're willing to do it.
It certainly works better than a three hundred pound androgynous
purple hair ear plugged. You know, whatever we're dealing with,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I do think that the retreat that you saw from
Cracker Barrel, and this is where the impact act of
bud Light really comes in, because I've heard so many
people out there. They get sometimes upset when we talk
about culture, not just on this program but on all programs,
and they're like, tell me more about the tax plan
(17:15):
for small businesses. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean,
I'm in favor of lower taxes all these things, but
culture is how you win. I'm sorry, culture, culture, culture.
The older I get in all facets. Your company's culture
is how you win your team, both as a actual
(17:38):
athletic team and just the team around you. Your family.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Culture is how you win culture. Culture, culture, and you
have to win culture. And what I am seeing right
now is bucks point.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I told you guys this about FanDuel yesterday, and I
got a lot of reaction to it. I don't think
most people outside of media understand that the advertising agencies
are the wokest part of American life, and they are
the bottleneck that is putting all this ridiculousness. I would
argue a lot of it is filth out into the
(18:15):
larger cultural arena because they control so much of the
access to the marketplace, and they were the ones pushing
all this androgynous models, all this hey being three hundred
and fifty pounds, that's how we should sell athletic gear. Hey,
let's put an actual man in a Nike sports bra
and let's say, hey, girls go buy Nike sports bras
(18:39):
to work out in. I mean, these are the ads
that they were putting in. They're the reason bud Light
put this trans influencer on a can in the first place.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
We have to destroy them. We have to destroy them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And understand there's a lot of cowardice out there, but
that's how you win culture. That is how you go
back to some form of normalcy in American life.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think that it's incumbent upon everybody to remember this
as they're making their decisions. And you know, we talk
about Crockett coffee here on the show, and how we're
already you know, some of you who listen to Joe PAGs,
Joe PAGs are selling Crockett coffee and Ben Ferguson is
selling Crocket coffee. You know, we're putting money into the
broader conservative media economy. Because Clay and I remember what
(19:21):
it was like. I remember the early days. Sponsors that
would come on you have the same thing, Sponsors that
would stand with you. They felt like family. And that's
one of the reasons why we're so attached to many
of our longtime sponsors here on this show, because they're
with us shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, they're trying to offer
up great products to all of you, but they make
a be very clear about this, and I don't ever
(19:42):
want to make it feel like this is something we
don't talk about. They make every sponsor on this and
other conservative programs out there, they make a decision to
stand with you, all of you and your values because
there are a lot of companies out there that we
would make a ton of money for by just telling
you about their great products. And they're like, I'm sorry,
(20:03):
have you heard what Klay Travis says about trans guys
playing on women's field hockey? Have you heard what Buck
Sexton said about COVID lockdowns and fauci And I'm I'm
that is the God's honest truth. That is exactly what
goes on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
This is one where strategically the left understands how to
win culture better they created. And again we're taking you
into the weeds a little bit, but I think it's
important for you guys to understand it, and certainly Rush
lived through it because some of the creation of these
groups were designed to try to destroy Rush's show. As
many of you well remember, the left created entire companies
(20:43):
that they're All they did was reach out to big
brand advertisers and say, are you sure you want to
be affiliated with this conservative by the way, very broadly
defined conservative, because I did a sports talk show and
I had FanDuel cancel on me over saying men can't
(21:03):
be in women's sports.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean, how many sports.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Gamblers do you think in America believe that men should
be able.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
To compete in women's sports?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I generally don't think the guys we're paying really close
attention to which pony is gonna come in first or
which touchdown is going to be the game winner sitting
there chopping their cigars, like you know, what we really
need more future is female T shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And by the way, also beer companies. I mean, this
is the Cracker Barrels decision writ large, and I think
a lot of these companies are now going to start
firing some of these marketing agencies, but they're the ones
with the choke hold on culture. You need to see
the Sydney Sweeney ad campaign work because cowardice is common
and most marketers are not particularly smart, and they follow
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whichever direction they're led, and if they're told put fat
chicks into sports bras or put dudes with penises into
sports bras to sell women's at athletic gear, they'll do
it because they're cowards and that's what they were told.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And you see in the case of the cracker barrel
and all a cracker rail situation. I just want to
say this too, for I've been reading conservative media and
I've doing all this stuff now since I was in
high school. So we're going on thirty thirty years of
seeing what the sponsors are, seeing what the climate is,
(22:26):
and how advertisers and corporations treat anything that half the country,
a little niche market known as half the country fully
endorses and supports. And so there is a sense of
a I don't know if it's a renaissance, it's certainly
a turning of the tide. There is a sense that
things now under this Trump administration are better than they
(22:47):
have ever been in this regard. There's still a lot
of work to be done though, because it's it's crazy,
and you see a lot of these shows, Clay, after
the Trump election, after Trump's election win that have been canceled,
a lot of these programs that have they were being
propped up by people and companies selling other stuff to you. Right,
So it's like the corporation is making money selling you
(23:08):
toaster ovens or whatever, and then people who are in
a media subsidiary that the corporation owns are able to
write checks that are subsidized by the toaster ovens that
you don't realize are actually paying the bills so that
you can have Stephen Colbert be a not funny jerk
on TV every night making thirty million dollars a year
(23:30):
while the staff is getting fired. That is the lib
media business model. And once you understand that it is
not free and open, fair choice, and once you understand
how they've seated themselves top to bottom in these corporate institutions,
how they've decided to use the levers of power and
their advantage to their advantage, Clay, this has been worth.
It's been worth presidential elections. I'm just gonna say it.
(23:52):
I mean the Democrats have been in office at different
times because of this apparatus that we are outlining for
you right now. So trust me, it matters.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And you have to win the culture wars. And this
is why I think this is significant.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And we're winning the culture wars, and we're winning young men,
and we need to add on more steam. Young women
want to look like Sidney Sweeney. Young men want to
play football. They want to be bigger, stronger, faster than
they are. They don't want to be failures, they don't
want to be mediocrits. And this sameness, this cultural androgyny
(24:29):
that is being sold by the left, we're lighting it
on fire. But we need to pour on more fuel.
We need to continue to stack wins. That's why this
is important. This is how you stack multiple wins. And
I do think we should celebrate and draw attention to
companies that are making the right decisions because other companies
(24:51):
will emulate them because success is contagious and once somebody
has success, others will follow.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Our civilization is built on and the aspiration to greatness,
to beauty, to discovery, to be to be someone who
is not just eating the gruel that is handed by
the commissars and told what to do and what to
wear and how to speak. And now you're seeing that
people want to return a restoration to the degree it's
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possible to an America that wants greatness beautiful things, and
that includes some cases beautiful people.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Sundays with Clay and Voss.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I gotta be honest, I didn't watch a lot of news.
I'm a sports guy. I didn't watch a lot of
news on television. I've always been a reader and I
never trust video. I always have known that because I'm
in television that I love doing sports television, for instance,
but I've always known that it's hard to get great
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in depth knowledge from television on anything. This is the reality.
Television is a SoundBite era. And I always thought it
was funny because I've always done radio two and people say, Okay,
what's the difference between writing, which is where I started
and by the way, please go buy my new book Balls.
(26:15):
I'm gonna talk about this a little bit more later
in the week, but it's up pre ordered. I want
this thing to be everywhere. I think it's important. But
people say, what's the difference between writing radio and TV?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Writing? For me?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is just me in front of a computer screen. Every
word is mine and there's nobody else helping, So, for
better or worse, I have complete control of every argument
that I make in a written article. And that is why,
in many ways, writing is still my favorite discipline because
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it's just me sitting in front of a computer screen
and there's no one else to help, and for better
or worse, it's it's on me to make an argument,
or to write a column, or to write a book
that hopefully is entertaining and helps to make people think
on a deeper level. Radio we have the luxury of time,
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so I can sit with you for three hours every day.
Buck can sit with you for three hours every day.
Over time, we become in some ways a family because
you have fifteen hours a week to spend with us,
and we love all of you that spend that much time.
But you're going to learn about our families. You're gonna
learn about the things that we like, the serious things,
(27:32):
the not serious things. We hang out. It's basically just
one long form conversation. First time I did television, I
did television. I came out in a studio and they
were like, that was amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
How was that so good.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That was so great. I was like, it's three minutes.
I wish my wife had that standard.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But I'm but it's three minutes. Like you go on
television and you give a couple of time and then
you're gone. And there is not a great deal of
nuance or complexity or depth that television can convey. And
so I was always a little bit skeptical of television
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in general when it comes to complicated issues. And so
I didn't watch I didn't watch a lot of CNN.
I've never watched MSNBC, but I didn't really pay much
attention to Fox News. I now think it's funny. Fox
News is the most I now pay a lot more
attention to news. You have to be crazy to watch MSNBC.
(28:38):
I'm not like I watch MSNBC. I read the New
York Times, the Washington Post, so to kind of have
some sense of what's going on. They live in a
crazy world. People say, oh, Fox News, it's super right, wink.
Fox News is just normal. And this is what they
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did to me, and this is what they try to
do to anybody like me. I've talked about this before.
They try to always label me controversial. If you read
any article about me or somebody's talking about me, within
thirty seconds, they will say Clay Travis, the controversial sometimes
firebrand right wing conservative political commentator.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I don't think I'm controversial at all. I say this.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I've been saying this for fifteen years now, as people
have constantly labeled me controversial. There's nothing wrong with controversy,
but I don't think most of my comments or opinions
are remotely controversial. They labeled me super controversial for saying
men shouldn't play in women's sports, and again, I have
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nothing wrong with controversy. But when you are on the
side of eighty or ninety percent of people, what's contra
tu reversial is the other side. But that is an
emblematic of how they took over the culture. Is they
label anyone, anyone at all who is just not left wing.
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You're considered to be right wing, and they try to
label you as controversial, and it has an impact. I
give tremendous credit to iHeart for hosting this show, but
the most left wing industry in the country is advertising.
This show's audience is massive across all five hundred and
(30:35):
fifty five stations right now. There are millions of you
that will listen to me today on this program. Y'all
ever think about the fact that we've never had.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
A car advertisement on this program.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Flip on MSNBC. Every car brand in America advertises on MSNBC.
We've never had a restaurant on this program.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Flip on CNN.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Every restaurant in America advertises on those brands. And I'm
thinking about this a lot because I'm going to be
potentially starting a new media company, and when you rely
on media companies being founded and funded and existing or
even having success based on advertising dollars, the left has
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been brilliant in going after anybody who advertises on anything
other than far left wing and labeling them controversial to
try to create the idea that brands can't be associated
with people like me, or people like Buck or frankly,
people like you. Think about that, never a car, never
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a restaurant in the entire history of us being on
this program. It's crazy, right Well, I think it ties
in with the story that I want to talk about
this morning. I'm reading an American Eagle headline can Eagle
gain customers after their Sydney Sweeney ads? Stock par price
has also skyrocketed. It's nearly doubled since they debuted this ad.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
So if you had just.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Said, hey, that's a pretty girl in jeans, that's probably
gonna work, and you went and bought American eagle stock,
you've doubled your money just in the last few months,
nearly over this. But I thought this was interesting. This
is again from the Wall Street Journal. They said that
they have added nearly a million customers since they.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Debuted the Sydney Sweeney ads.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And not only that, they have immediately sold out. And
I don't even know what these things are. I'm not
exactly the hippest person on the planet. When it comes
to close. As many of you know, the Sweeney cinched
waist denim jacket sold out in one day, and the
Sydney gene and I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal,
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this is not my description. An ultra wide leg with
a butterfly on the back pocket sold out in a week.
They added a million customers, and they immediately sold out
of everything that she was wearing in the ads. Okay,
here's something else. The owner CEO, Jay Schottenstein, big Ohio
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state guy.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
By the way, Ohio State Buckeye.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He is seventy one years old, and he said he
is also an Orthodox Jew, and he said, quote according
to The Wall Street Journal, he was perplexed at the
criticism of Sidney Jeanie. Sidney Sweeney has good genes because
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remember they said that was, oh, this is a Nazi ad,
this is about eugenics. This guy, an Orthodox Jew, actually
said his mother in law grew up in Nazi Germany
and watched as the synagogue across the street from her
home was burned to the ground. Quote I'm very conscious
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of that term.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He said.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
He felt that the team had felt the campaign was
offensive in any way, we never would have done it.
Orthodox Jew whose mother in law lived through actual Nazi Germany, said, Hey,
this is a crazy idea that you would try to
brand this a Nazi advertising campaign because we put a
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pretty girl in denim, and the denim immediately sold out.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Do you know why?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Because pretty girls sell products, Sexy products sell. I was
laughing about this the other day. Victoria's Secret as a
new CEO, she's having a lot of success. Do you
know the new Victoria's Secret CEO's plan make a laningerie
sexy again. It turns out putting unattractive models in panties
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and bras doesn't make anyone want to buy more panties
than bras. I'm fat. They don't want to put me
in a male underwear campaign. It will be the least
successful underwear on the planet. Nobody's gonna see me in
underwear and be like, I want to look like that guy.
I want to look like that forty six year old
dad of three. They need a super ripped guy who's
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at least gonna make you think, hey, maybe I'll be
more attractive if I wear this underwear. This is people
want to look better than they actually are. They want
the fantasy of hey, I'm gonna put this on and
I'm gonna look like a supermodel. This is not you know,
they don't sell athletic shoes by putting fat guys in
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in sneakers and saying, hey, look at this guy's eighteen
inch vertical. They have a guy who can jump over
the moon in the tennis shoes, and they make you
think you're going to jump over the moon too. I
should start an advertising agency. I've actually thought about this.
I would sell everything better than what these morons at
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these advertising agencies do. But I want to give credit
because American Eagle said basically screw you to all their critics.
Stock price has nearly doubled. They're selling out like crazy,
They've got a million extra customers. And all they did
was go back to the old adage of sex cells.
Put a pretty girl in denim instead of some ridiculous
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androgynous you know, miss, I don't even know what the unigender.
I don't even know what these terms are, pan sexual,
whatever the heck it is that nobody wants to be.
They just put a pretty girl in jeans and they
immediately sold out. Maybe America is gonna be fine.
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It starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm about thirty years late on this one, but I
felt like I finally just had to bite the bullet
and do it. And I watched The English Patient, which
I had never seen before. That movie. That movie sucks.
I mean, that movie is trash. You know, it won
like nine Academy Awards. Back when the Academy Awards meant
something like back when the back when the movies that
you loved were what were this is the nineties, right,
(00:39):
the awesome movies would get nominated, not all of them,
but a lot of them would get nominated for Academy Awards.
Have you ever seen The English Patient?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I mean I have not thought about The English Patient
legitimately in probably thirty years. I went on a high
school date to The English Patient, like the worst place.
It was like the worst I've tried to what I mean,
did you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Get did you get some?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know what I mean? Like?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Was it a good date?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
And almost like.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Trying to make out trying to make out during Schindler's List.
I mean, it's like the saddest movie.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is a little tough, and the guy, yeah, he's
he's kind of a sad, sad case. Also though, I
want to be like, so you sold you sold out,
like you love this chick was so important that you
sold out to the Nazis, buddy. I mean, I know
it was Hungarian, but.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I have no recollection other than it was in I
just looked it up. Nineteen ninety six. So I was
seventeen and I went on a date with a sixth joe.
I was I think I was a junior or senior
and I went on one year younger than me, and
I was like, I don't know, I don't know what
I was thinking. It's like the word there's the Seinfeld
I think where he gets.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Caught Wither's List, and yeah, he's making out during Schindler's List. Problem.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
The English patient is up there with Schindler's List on
movies that it's the least difficult, most difficult to actually
make out during. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Maybe I'll tell you his hands on the positive side
of things. Uh, I find go back and watch the
movies of the nineties were fantastic, Like that's when they
were making great So if there's a great movie from
the nineties, generally speaking, and you haven't seen it, it's
worth going to see. They don't make good movies anymore.
I know I sound like it like some old man,
but it's true. They just don't make good movies anymore.
(02:16):
Occasionally something will pop up on Netflix that's worthwhile, or
Apple TV or something.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Why didn't you watch It's been out for forty years?
Why did you suddenly watch the Was this Carrie's decision?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, because I said, well, I was looking for a
movie night film for us, you know, we had the baby,
and I had watched the Justse Smollette documentary when I
was babysitting on my own the night before because Carrie
went to bed early. And that is incredible. By the way,
the Justse Smollette documentary on Netflix, it's I mean, they
do get into the like, well, there are still questions
(02:48):
and like Justse Smollett is all He's like, you know,
I would never have done this.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And he still he participated in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh yeah, he does interviews. But Clay, they take you
through I mean, I couldn't stop laughing. They take you
through the first hour when you go back and actually
see so I just want to give you on the
good side of things. The Josey Smollett documentary. The first
hour and they have these detectives who are the early one,
you know, the guy's on the case, and they're just
looking at everyone like, I mean, this is the dumbest thing.
This is the most absurd thing we've ever seen. And
of course Kamala and Joe Biden and they're like, oh,
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Joseph Smollett. It's just a great trip down memory lane.
And that was back when Twitter was lib dominated and
I had people, I had blue checks coming after me
because I did a podcast when the story broke Clay
and it was Jesse Smollett is lying. That was the
title of the podcast, and man, that was that was
a fun one. Look how dare you? How dare you?
I'm like, yeah, sure. He would hold onto the subway
(03:40):
sandwich and keep the noose around his neck, like, walked
into his apartment and then waited for the cops to come. Right,
I mean, this is it is bonkers. But no, if
you if you want to, if you have a movie
night with your spouse, or whatever coming up if you gotta.
It's rains here a lot in Florida now, so we
have some rainy nights ninety Stuff is great, except for
The English Patient, which is trash. I'm just giving you
(04:02):
this thirty years late announcement because I had never seen
it before.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think it's really funny because I haven't thought about
The English Patient a long time, and I just looked
up the release date. It was the winter fall of
ninety six, so I was a senior in high school.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I mean, I guess I thought this is a romantic movie.
I should take a girl to a romantic movie. It is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I have not thought about that movie, thought that bad
of a date. That there are way worse date movies
than The English Patient. You know, it's not like, I mean,
the Schindler's Listening obviously from Seinfeld was meant to like
they're meant to find the absolute worst possible movie to
try to make out with somebody drink and yeah, there
are other other movies that I would say would be far,
far tougher to watch than that one. All right, well,
(04:45):
you got some talkbacks here, probably not about The English Patient,
but here we go. All right, Glenn FF Glenn from
Ohio who listens on WMA and radio play it.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Hey, Bucket's Glenn from Minsford, Ohio. Clay's always talking sports,
and this is your week to shine into sports. Let's
hear some commentary about the tennis US Open. Great tournament.
Plus it's in New York. And also, how about an
update on your serve, Speed. I don't think I've heard
that or I missed it.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Thanks, all right, you're asking for some US Open. I
have been watching at night, so I've been trying to
space out my babysitting routines. Here for Little Speed, which
is my son's name, which I think you all know.
So I've been watching the Open, Clay. I think it's
heading toward Alcaraz Center in the final, and I think
that Center is gonna win the whole thing. I know
(05:32):
a lot of peopleould say Alcaraz, it's a great time
for men's tennis. As for my serve, I will tell
you I have now gotten. I have not given up.
I don't want any of you to think that this
is like, oh like I went out there one time
before the show for thirty minutes in the sun. It's
very hot out there. Some of you noticed, why are
you so sweaty? I don't know, because one hundred and
(05:53):
four degrees on this court and I got hold on,
hold on, hold on, buddy, hold on. I got top
of the line. Now for civilian home use, I guess
it's all for civilian US. It's not military, but for
civilian home US. I got a better radar gun, and
I'm ready to go and get out there. It's got
like a tripod, the whole thing, because the radar gun,
it's the one you hold in your hand, is trash
(06:14):
because it has to be right in line. So I
showed you guys, one servan at ninety seven miles an hour.
I have to serve at fifteen times to get one reading,
basically like it never the readings are not good. So
I got something that should be way better. And now
the only challenge has been rained because it the courts
get wet here every day, so you can't play, and
there's only outdoor courts where I am in Miami. But
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the answer to your question is before the US Open
is over, I plan to be out there and we
will break one hundred, my friends, we will break one hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I am curious to hear, and and and and interested
to see. So Lauren Travis was out that look at that,
look at that vote.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Of no conference. Three more mph? You know, three more mph.
I don't know, you know, you might throw your should
they're out on that one, I know. I think. The
other thing I'll tell you is it's amazing how everybody
everybody on the internet is a is a firearms expert
and a tennis expert. It's fascinating, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, oh really really, everyone's got commentary going.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I'm like, hmm, it is funny for things that
you know, ninety five percent of people can't do, how
many and look, it could be anything like I'll give
you an example. You and I could both bench two
hundred and twenty five pounds. That is for most men
in their forties, something that they can't do right. Somehow,
(07:38):
the only people who comment are the people who tell
you that you're super weak, right, like almost no one
can do that totally. Like and if I went if
I posted a video of me doing two or three reps,
which I think is about what I would get, some
guy would be like, oh, that's pathetic and you're like, well, actually,
it's like ninety eight percent dial for men my age, Like,
if you're in percent dial in anything, you're pretty good.
(08:03):
And yet on the internet it seems to be made
up by only guys who ridicule anything.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, it really is.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And by the way, for women, the number of guys
out there really pretty girls. Right, pretty girl does something
and for one of the first comments she's not that hot,
it's like, well, who are you dating?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Who are you married to? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They like to say they like to say mid is
that'd like And people will say like Margot, Margot, Robbie
is mid I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yes, Like, I mean, like Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wants
to be like, she's not that good looking, I'd be like, Okay,
well he's been dating twenty five year old girls for
thirty years. Uh, you know, he's kind of got a
high standard. I can see that. But unless you're picking
models for the cover of Vogue, most girls that are
like Sidney Sweeney, people are like, I don't really think
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she's that hot. I'm like, who are you dating that?
Sidney Sweeney?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's not that good.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Look.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There's a lack there's a lack of this is a
chronic thing online there's the in the commentariat, in the
comment section, there's a lack of objectivity that comes out.
I saw this in the tennis thing I have. People
were saying, like, my daughter plays do you want tennis
for UCLA? And she can serve that hard? And I'm like, yeah,
she's an amazing tennis player. What is what are you saying?
She plays d one at UCLA. She could probably go
(09:17):
on the pro tour, Like is this a dunk? I
don't understand. You think you're dunking on me? Like you're
telling me like that's pretty great.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's just yeat.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Like if you're in the ninetieth percentile on anything, you're
pretty good at it, right, I mean that that is.
And yet on the internet, if you're in the ninetieth percentile,
it's as if people are all I mean even I
guess you know, you could be Michael Jordan and people
are like, well, he's not actually that good because like, well,
you know, maybe the greatest probably the greatest basketball player
(09:45):
of all time.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think maybe he knows a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I do think to just close a little First of all,
the surf thing is not done. Just so you all
though there will be there will be follow up, and
second of all, so don't worry about that. And second
of all, I think that you'll probably find out that
center Sinner might become like the far and away best
tennis player of all time. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He did have a little issue that that's a bold
call when you're talking about the joker Djokovic and how
good he is right now and then obviously following Federer
and all. So Djokovic is on the downslope right like
he's almost forty, started thinking about being forty, but then
the amount that he's racked up in terms of the wins,
most all time majors. But it's really an alcoraz Or
Sinner world that we're coming into here, and they're both
(10:26):
phenomenal players and they're really fun to watch. It is
also fun to see how tennis I don't know if
any sport in our lifetime has transformed more. I mean,
you go back to look at like Jimmy Connors. Jimmy
Connors looks like the guys that my dad plays golf
with on the weekends. Like these are not These do
not look like elite athletes running around the tennis s
court hit.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I know, the rackets are different and everything else. I mean,
now these guys are They're all an incredible cardiovascular shape.
They move incredibly well. The girls too, I mean will look.
Women's tennis is a great spectator sport. Unlike some other things.
It's not like the WNBA sit situation where people are
told they have to watch it. In women's tennis, those women
are incredible athletes and it's a fun it's a good
spectator experience even.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
By the way, I think that's true across the board,
and it's one sign of how people just continue to
get better. Even golf, there's not really John Daies anymore,
or in Hell Cabrera's for those of you out there,
just kind of chubby, not very well. I'm not trying
to take shot to John Daly or and Hell Cabrera,
but they were popular for that reason. There aren't really
(11:27):
very many of those guys in golf. I think you
don't see.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Guys with a thirty pound gut on them smoking cigarettes
at the seventh at the seventh he or whatever, wearing
the plaid pants who are world class golfers right now,
like that you're nazieing.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They don't exist anymore. And I think partly it's the
amount of money, but also people are just more aware
of how to get the most out of your body
and the discipline that it takes to become an excellent athlete.
Now I think is higher than it ever has been before.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Sunday, Hang with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
This morning, Buck, as I was getting ready for the show,
as I was walking my fifth grader to school, as
I do most mornings, the stock market opened. I looked
down at my phone. I knew it was going to
be a big pop out of the gate. But American
Eagle stock, for those of you who saw the Sydney
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Sweeney advertisements and just said, you know what, I think,
a pretty girl in jeans and a company that is
not apologizing for it is likely to do well. Last night,
American Eagle said their Sydney Sweeney ad campaign is so
successful that they are now increasing their earnings expectations and
(12:46):
their profit expectations. And the stock as I speak to
you all today is up thirty two and a half
percent today alone, the stock up for and half dollars.
So if you just heard us talking about this advertisement,
if you just saw them talking about it, on Fox
(13:08):
News and you thought to yourself, you know what, a
pretty girl in jeans seems like a pretty good idea.
And then as you saw all the controversy stirred up
on the left, people saying, oh, this is eugenics. Maybe
we can go back and pull the ABC Good Morning
America story where they put on the expert to say, oh,
(13:30):
this is very troubling. This is calling a blonde hair,
blue eyed girl saying she has good genes as a
pun on j E A N S G E N
E s a clear double entendre. There, if you thought
this is all ridiculous, this is going to work. I
give credit to American Eagle. They didn't run and hide.
(13:52):
I know because my grandma, grandma of my kids, my
mom took a picture of my son at back to
school season is standing in front of a Sydney Sweeney ad.
I know that even grandmas were aware of this ad campaign.
And maybe some of you out there you bought your
kids and your grandkids American Eagle gear just to make
(14:15):
a statement on this buck. I do think that this
is a sign of the culture shift having occurred in
a big way. I think the popularity of football going
through the roof ratings wise, I think it's directly connected
to this pretty girls sports. It's all coming back together again.
(14:35):
It never left popularity, but they wanted to tell us
that fat androgynist model is going to sell lingerie. Guess
what America is not crazy? People like football, they like
pretty girls, and my goodness, you could have made a
lot of money by betting on both.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I want to find out what the next company is
that plans to just do an old school all Americana
good feeling. I mean it seems like a you know,
clay As. You know, we've talked about marketing execs. Madison
Avenue ad execs are among the most woke as a profession,
(15:12):
most woke individuals you'll find anywhere. I mean, they're really
up there with like Broadway choreographers in terms of their politics,
and they are living in some other planet. And I
think because of America's overall prosperity, the dominance of many
American companies, they've been able to get away with their
ideological decisions, ideologically based decisions instead of what's based the
(15:33):
company for a long time. That perhaps is in the
early stages of changing. We shall see. I will say
I haven't seen a change in the advertising kind of companies,
I should say the kind of companies. Advertising and conservative
media haven't seen that happen yet. We were hearing, you know,
early rumbles that this may go on, and now I
(15:55):
think there's a little more of a wait and see
Trump's first year. Let's see if he stays focused and
stays on it. But I think that consumers and the
American people need to continue to push, and that just
means be vocal about your preferences and put your dollars
where your heart is. Actually make decisions based upon where
where companies align with your values. And in some cases
(16:17):
it's just fun and liking America and wanting to sell
a good products that can align with your values. It
doesn't have to be you know, everything is draped in
an American flag and talks about defeating a Communists. Although
that's fine too, but just here trying to use the old,
the oldest trick in the marketing book, a beautiful woman
selling a product to people that they will like. It
(16:39):
turns out that still works if you're willing to do it.
It certainly works better than a three hundred pound androgynous
purple hair ear plugged. You know, whatever we're dealing with,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I do think that the retreat that you saw from
Cracker Barrel, and this is where the impact act of
bud Light really comes in, because I've heard so many
people out there. They get sometimes upset when we talk
about culture, not just on this program but on all programs,
and they're like, tell me more about the tax plan
(17:15):
for small businesses. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean,
I'm in favor of lower taxes all these things, but
culture is how you win. I'm sorry, culture, culture, culture.
The older I get in all facets. Your company's culture
is how you win your team, both as a actual
(17:38):
athletic team and just the team around you. Your family.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Culture is how you win culture. Culture, culture, and you
have to win culture. And what I am seeing right
now is bucks point.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I told you guys this about FanDuel yesterday, and I
got a lot of reaction to it. I don't think
most people outside of media understand that the advertising agencies
are the wokest part of American life, and they are
the bottleneck that is putting all this ridiculousness. I would
argue a lot of it is filth out into the
(18:15):
larger cultural arena because they control so much of the
access to the marketplace, and they were the ones pushing
all this androgynous models, all this hey being three hundred
and fifty pounds, that's how we should sell athletic gear. Hey,
let's put an actual man in a Nike sports bra
and let's say, hey, girls go buy Nike sports bras
(18:39):
to work out in. I mean, these are the ads
that they were putting in. They're the reason bud Light
put this trans influencer on a can in the first place.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
We have to destroy them. We have to destroy them.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And understand there's a lot of cowardice out there, but
that's how you win culture. That is how you go
back to some form of normalcy in American life.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
I think that it's incumbent upon everybody to remember this
as they're making their decisions. And you know, we talk
about Crockett coffee here on the show, and how we're
already you know, some of you who listen to Joe PAGs,
Joe PAGs are selling Crockett coffee and Ben Ferguson is
selling Crocket coffee. You know, we're putting money into the
broader conservative media economy. Because Clay and I remember what
(19:21):
it was like. I remember the early days. Sponsors that
would come on you have the same thing, Sponsors that
would stand with you. They felt like family. And that's
one of the reasons why we're so attached to many
of our longtime sponsors here on this show, because they're
with us shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, they're trying to offer
up great products to all of you, but they make
a be very clear about this, and I don't ever
(19:42):
want to make it feel like this is something we
don't talk about. They make every sponsor on this and
other conservative programs out there, they make a decision to
stand with you, all of you and your values because
there are a lot of companies out there that we
would make a ton of money for by just telling
you about their great products. And they're like, I'm sorry,
(20:03):
have you heard what Klay Travis says about trans guys
playing on women's field hockey? Have you heard what Buck
Sexton said about COVID lockdowns and fauci And I'm I'm
that is the God's honest truth. That is exactly what
goes on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
This is one where strategically the left understands how to
win culture better they created. And again we're taking you
into the weeds a little bit, but I think it's
important for you guys to understand it, and certainly Rush
lived through it because some of the creation of these
groups were designed to try to destroy Rush's show. As
many of you well remember, the left created entire companies
(20:43):
that they're All they did was reach out to big
brand advertisers and say, are you sure you want to
be affiliated with this conservative by the way, very broadly
defined conservative, because I did a sports talk show and
I had FanDuel cancel on me over saying men can't
(21:03):
be in women's sports.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I mean, how many sports.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Gamblers do you think in America believe that men should
be able.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
To compete in women's sports?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I generally don't think the guys we're paying really close
attention to which pony is gonna come in first or
which touchdown is going to be the game winner sitting
there chopping their cigars, like you know, what we really
need more future is female T shirts.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And by the way, also beer companies. I mean, this
is the Cracker Barrels decision writ large, and I think
a lot of these companies are now going to start
firing some of these marketing agencies, but they're the ones
with the choke hold on culture. You need to see
the Sydney Sweeney ad campaign work because cowardice is common
and most marketers are not particularly smart, and they follow
(21:51):
whichever direction they're led, and if they're told put fat
chicks into sports bras or put dudes with penises into
sports bras to sell women's at athletic gear, they'll do
it because they're cowards and that's what they were told.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And you see in the case of the cracker barrel
and all a cracker rail situation. I just want to
say this too, for I've been reading conservative media and
I've doing all this stuff now since I was in
high school. So we're going on thirty thirty years of
seeing what the sponsors are, seeing what the climate is,
(22:26):
and how advertisers and corporations treat anything that half the country,
a little niche market known as half the country fully
endorses and supports. And so there is a sense of
a I don't know if it's a renaissance, it's certainly
a turning of the tide. There is a sense that
things now under this Trump administration are better than they
(22:47):
have ever been in this regard. There's still a lot
of work to be done though, because it's it's crazy,
and you see a lot of these shows, Clay, after
the Trump election, after Trump's election win that have been canceled,
a lot of these programs that have they were being
propped up by people and companies selling other stuff to you. Right,
So it's like the corporation is making money selling you
(23:08):
toaster ovens or whatever, and then people who are in
a media subsidiary that the corporation owns are able to
write checks that are subsidized by the toaster ovens that
you don't realize are actually paying the bills so that
you can have Stephen Colbert be a not funny jerk
on TV every night making thirty million dollars a year
(23:30):
while the staff is getting fired. That is the lib
media business model. And once you understand that it is
not free and open, fair choice, and once you understand
how they've seated themselves top to bottom in these corporate institutions,
how they've decided to use the levers of power and
their advantage to their advantage, Clay, this has been worth.
It's been worth presidential elections. I'm just gonna say it.
(23:52):
I mean the Democrats have been in office at different
times because of this apparatus that we are outlining for
you right now. So trust me, it matters.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And you have to win the culture wars. And this
is why I think this is significant.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And we're winning the culture wars, and we're winning young men,
and we need to add on more steam. Young women
want to look like Sidney Sweeney. Young men want to
play football. They want to be bigger, stronger, faster than
they are. They don't want to be failures, they don't
want to be mediocrits. And this sameness, this cultural androgyny
(24:29):
that is being sold by the left, we're lighting it
on fire. But we need to pour on more fuel.
We need to continue to stack wins. That's why this
is important. This is how you stack multiple wins. And
I do think we should celebrate and draw attention to
companies that are making the right decisions because other companies
(24:51):
will emulate them because success is contagious and once somebody
has success, others will follow.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Our civilization is built on and the aspiration to greatness,
to beauty, to discovery, to be to be someone who
is not just eating the gruel that is handed by
the commissars and told what to do and what to
wear and how to speak. And now you're seeing that
people want to return a restoration to the degree it's
(25:20):
possible to an America that wants greatness beautiful things, and
that includes some cases beautiful people.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Sundays with Clay and Voss.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I gotta be honest, I didn't watch a lot of news.
I'm a sports guy. I didn't watch a lot of
news on television. I've always been a reader and I
never trust video. I always have known that because I'm
in television that I love doing sports television, for instance,
but I've always known that it's hard to get great
(25:54):
in depth knowledge from television on anything. This is the reality.
Television is a SoundBite era. And I always thought it
was funny because I've always done radio two and people say, Okay,
what's the difference between writing, which is where I started
and by the way, please go buy my new book Balls.
(26:15):
I'm gonna talk about this a little bit more later
in the week, but it's up pre ordered. I want
this thing to be everywhere. I think it's important. But
people say, what's the difference between writing radio and TV?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Writing? For me?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is just me in front of a computer screen. Every
word is mine and there's nobody else helping, So, for
better or worse, I have complete control of every argument
that I make in a written article. And that is why,
in many ways, writing is still my favorite discipline because
(26:50):
it's just me sitting in front of a computer screen
and there's no one else to help, and for better
or worse, it's it's on me to make an argument,
or to write a column, or to write a book
that hopefully is entertaining and helps to make people think
on a deeper level. Radio we have the luxury of time,
(27:11):
so I can sit with you for three hours every day.
Buck can sit with you for three hours every day.
Over time, we become in some ways a family because
you have fifteen hours a week to spend with us,
and we love all of you that spend that much time.
But you're going to learn about our families. You're gonna
learn about the things that we like, the serious things,
(27:32):
the not serious things. We hang out. It's basically just
one long form conversation. First time I did television, I
did television. I came out in a studio and they
were like, that was amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
How was that so good.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That was so great. I was like, it's three minutes.
I wish my wife had that standard.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
But I'm but it's three minutes. Like you go on
television and you give a couple of time and then
you're gone. And there is not a great deal of
nuance or complexity or depth that television can convey. And
so I was always a little bit skeptical of television
(28:14):
in general when it comes to complicated issues. And so
I didn't watch I didn't watch a lot of CNN.
I've never watched MSNBC, but I didn't really pay much
attention to Fox News. I now think it's funny. Fox
News is the most I now pay a lot more
attention to news. You have to be crazy to watch MSNBC.
(28:38):
I'm not like I watch MSNBC. I read the New
York Times, the Washington Post, so to kind of have
some sense of what's going on. They live in a
crazy world. People say, oh, Fox News, it's super right, wink.
Fox News is just normal. And this is what they
(28:58):
did to me, and this is what they try to
do to anybody like me. I've talked about this before.
They try to always label me controversial. If you read
any article about me or somebody's talking about me, within
thirty seconds, they will say Clay Travis, the controversial sometimes
firebrand right wing conservative political commentator.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I don't think I'm controversial at all. I say this.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I've been saying this for fifteen years now, as people
have constantly labeled me controversial. There's nothing wrong with controversy,
but I don't think most of my comments or opinions
are remotely controversial. They labeled me super controversial for saying
men shouldn't play in women's sports, and again, I have
(29:50):
nothing wrong with controversy. But when you are on the
side of eighty or ninety percent of people, what's contra
tu reversial is the other side. But that is an
emblematic of how they took over the culture. Is they
label anyone, anyone at all who is just not left wing.
(30:14):
You're considered to be right wing, and they try to
label you as controversial, and it has an impact. I
give tremendous credit to iHeart for hosting this show, but
the most left wing industry in the country is advertising.
This show's audience is massive across all five hundred and
(30:35):
fifty five stations right now. There are millions of you
that will listen to me today on this program. Y'all
ever think about the fact that we've never had.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
A car advertisement on this program.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Flip on MSNBC. Every car brand in America advertises on MSNBC.
We've never had a restaurant on this program.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Flip on CNN.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Every restaurant in America advertises on those brands. And I'm
thinking about this a lot because I'm going to be
potentially starting a new media company, and when you rely
on media companies being founded and funded and existing or
even having success based on advertising dollars, the left has
(31:23):
been brilliant in going after anybody who advertises on anything
other than far left wing and labeling them controversial to
try to create the idea that brands can't be associated
with people like me, or people like Buck or frankly,
people like you. Think about that, never a car, never
(31:45):
a restaurant in the entire history of us being on
this program. It's crazy, right Well, I think it ties
in with the story that I want to talk about
this morning. I'm reading an American Eagle headline can Eagle
gain customers after their Sydney Sweeney ads? Stock par price
has also skyrocketed. It's nearly doubled since they debuted this ad.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
So if you had just.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Said, hey, that's a pretty girl in jeans, that's probably
gonna work, and you went and bought American eagle stock,
you've doubled your money just in the last few months,
nearly over this. But I thought this was interesting. This
is again from the Wall Street Journal. They said that
they have added nearly a million customers since they.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Debuted the Sydney Sweeney ads.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And not only that, they have immediately sold out. And
I don't even know what these things are. I'm not
exactly the hippest person on the planet. When it comes
to close. As many of you know, the Sweeney cinched
waist denim jacket sold out in one day, and the
Sydney gene and I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal,
(32:58):
this is not my description. An ultra wide leg with
a butterfly on the back pocket sold out in a week.
They added a million customers, and they immediately sold out
of everything that she was wearing in the ads. Okay,
here's something else. The owner CEO, Jay Schottenstein, big Ohio
(33:24):
state guy.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
By the way, Ohio State Buckeye.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
He is seventy one years old, and he said he
is also an Orthodox Jew, and he said, quote according
to The Wall Street Journal, he was perplexed at the
criticism of Sidney Jeanie. Sidney Sweeney has good genes because
(33:48):
remember they said that was, oh, this is a Nazi ad,
this is about eugenics. This guy, an Orthodox Jew, actually
said his mother in law grew up in Nazi Germany
and watched as the synagogue across the street from her
home was burned to the ground. Quote I'm very conscious
(34:10):
of that term.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He said.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
He felt that the team had felt the campaign was
offensive in any way, we never would have done it.
Orthodox Jew whose mother in law lived through actual Nazi Germany, said, Hey,
this is a crazy idea that you would try to
brand this a Nazi advertising campaign because we put a
(34:37):
pretty girl in denim, and the denim immediately sold out.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Do you know why?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Because pretty girls sell products, Sexy products sell. I was
laughing about this the other day. Victoria's Secret as a
new CEO, she's having a lot of success. Do you
know the new Victoria's Secret CEO's plan make a laningerie
sexy again. It turns out putting unattractive models in panties
(35:08):
and bras doesn't make anyone want to buy more panties
than bras. I'm fat. They don't want to put me
in a male underwear campaign. It will be the least
successful underwear on the planet. Nobody's gonna see me in
underwear and be like, I want to look like that guy.
I want to look like that forty six year old
dad of three. They need a super ripped guy who's
(35:29):
at least gonna make you think, hey, maybe I'll be
more attractive if I wear this underwear. This is people
want to look better than they actually are. They want
the fantasy of hey, I'm gonna put this on and
I'm gonna look like a supermodel. This is not you know,
they don't sell athletic shoes by putting fat guys in
(35:51):
in sneakers and saying, hey, look at this guy's eighteen
inch vertical. They have a guy who can jump over
the moon in the tennis shoes, and they make you
think you're going to jump over the moon too. I
should start an advertising agency. I've actually thought about this.
I would sell everything better than what these morons at
(36:13):
these advertising agencies do. But I want to give credit
because American Eagle said basically screw you to all their critics.
Stock price has nearly doubled. They're selling out like crazy,
They've got a million extra customers. And all they did
was go back to the old adage of sex cells.
Put a pretty girl in denim instead of some ridiculous
(36:35):
androgynous you know, miss, I don't even know what the unigender.
I don't even know what these terms are, pan sexual,
whatever the heck it is that nobody wants to be.
They just put a pretty girl in jeans and they
immediately sold out. Maybe America is gonna be fine.
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