December 21, 2025 • 30 mins
Are you a robe guy? A feel-good red state story. Clay and Buck debate: are Crocs cool? Clay and Buck defend Kim Kardashian, but have strong feelings about former First Lady Michelle Obama complaining about having a glam team. Clay’s Balls almost a NYT bestseller.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
We'll start the noise here with uh Pam listens on
k E and I up and Anchorage, Alaska. I love
our Alaska contingent CEE.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
See hit it, Hey, Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
If Clay is going to tease you about your TUTSI
roll dance and not expecting to see that, you could
always counter with, well, I'm sure the construction workers weren't
expecting to see you streak across your room and offer
the suggestion Coach Hearth does sell men's backroes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Clay, there are you?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Are you a robe guy?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Our friend Jesse Kelly has been tweeting about how he's
become a robe guy now and I feel like a
robe is more like a lifestyle, like it's for the spa.
If you start walking around your house in a robe.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Are you ever gonna do anything?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, the hotels always have robes. No, I'm not a
robe guy. I don't think I've ever really kind of
walked around in a robe. Certainly, Yeah, I guess if
you're at a spa or something like that, maybe it
makes sense. But not a not a big time road guy.
By the way, We've got a good call Chip and Brandon, Florida.
We were talking about culture, and I think we could
(01:35):
have some more fun with this when we come back
because a lot of these ring doorbell cameras. I get it,
it's a relatively new thing that we can always see.
But I would tie this in with what do they
call him? Porch pirates, people who are constantly stealing the
packages that are delivered. Probably a lot of you out
there in neighborhoods have seen some of these videos. People say, hey,
do you know who this person is? They're waiting, they're
(01:57):
following the Amazon truck or the ups or whatever it is,
and they're grabbing things. This is a positive story. Chip
in Brandon, Florida tell us your story.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yes, I've accidentally left my wallet in a Sam's Club
and somebody turned it in. It had four hundred dollars
cash in it, and when they were when I went
down there the next day, all the cash is in it.
I think a red state you have much better chance
of having people do the right thing than in a
blue So.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You were just at a Sam's Club store and you
just accidentally forgot your wallet and somebody turned it in
and all the money was still in it. Correct, that's awesome,
Thank you. I do think red states tend to have,
as a general rule, better cultures than blue states when
it comes to and look states is tough because I
(02:50):
just mentioned there, even whatever state you're in, forty percent
of people voted Trump. Even if you're in a blue state,
And even if you're in a red state, around forty
percent of people voted Kamala. So you're still talking about
in a group of ten people, there's a huge substantial
percentage that are going to agree with you no matter what.
But I do think the culture of uh what, look
(03:13):
are you more likely play?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It would be fascinating to see an experiment they used
to do things like this of a wallet with you know,
one hundred dollars bill peeking out of it, left on
a New York City subway and someone operating a lost
and found counter, you know, within eyesight? How many people,
how many people turn it in? How many people take
one hundred?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It would be and it would vote for it would
be an interesting dynamic to then cross the tab it.
You know, Uh, how do they vote in elections? Are
they or are they not religious? What would the percentages show?
Who are the most likely to return? Who are the
least likely? But again to your point, high high trust
society's low trust society.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Sunday hang with Clay and buck.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ken who listens in Lincoln, Nebraska d D on the
talk back hit It.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Don't be hating on people who sports the robe. Yes,
it is a lifestyle. I'm retiring. Well, I'm not a
retiring pastor. I'm still a pastor, but I'm about to retire.
I'm an avid fly fisherman, have built several poles, so
don't be hating.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Good show.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
I have a blessed one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Thank you. You have a blessed one too. I don't
usually think of robe guys as also fly fishermen, but
that is.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A bit of a that is a bit of an upset,
like if he had been like and I'm also into
smoking pot and uh and uh, you know, wearing Birkenstocks, orgies,
smoking pot and orgies. That's kind of what I think
about for robe guy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So I've also I've noticed something, probably because of all
the lot of all the young people walking around trick
or treating, there is this is very unk of me,
which is how you wearing an unk T shirt. I
am Ali, got me an unk T shirtunk and owning it.
So that's a that the youth uses. But I've noticed
something that the kids, like thirteen to sixteen, they're wearing
(05:07):
Crocs un ironically, Oh yeah, the shoe was popular, Crocs.
And their hairstyle is this like poofy in the front
thing like it's like unkempt, kind of like like wavy curly.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
This is the hairstyle. Boy, I think my boys have this.
I mean exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
If you had them come over to the camera, I
can tell you. But I can tell you they're all
these kids walking around with the same hair. It's a
very unique hairstyle.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yes, and that their rocket crocs are and have been
for several years now, insanely popular with young kids, like
teenage teenage kids. I thought you were gonna say, well,
hold on, let's play Renee in Kentucky who wanted to
react to the idea of all this candy being stolen.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
If my son had ever jumped a bowl of candy
and his bag, I would have busted his ass on
the spot. He would have had to apologize as well
as do community service work for that neighbor. That's how
that goes. Anyone else that would do something different is
(06:17):
low class.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Nay, you are. You are someone who is holding a
line on civilization and I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Renee is very civilized. Buck, I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And yeah, if you happen to see your kid on
one of those viral videos, I think you should make
a video of the kid apologizing and make him go
knock on the door and buy candy, maybe do some
yard work to make up for the candy that he took.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Very important news that Claire reminded me of that Kim Kardashian,
despite trying, did not pass the California bar exam. I
believe she's tried a few times at this point but
has has not had passed it. So we're hoping, we're
pulling for Kim to pass the bar exam. I think
she isn't she worth a billion dollars, so this really
is just like a personal mountain that she is trying
(07:11):
to climb.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
We'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know she has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
To do hard things.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And it would be very easy, to your point, Buck,
when you become a billionaire, to just say, hey, I've
got everything I could possibly want. I'm not going to
try to push myself any further. And she decided she
wanted to try to become a lawyer, and she is
attempting to do it. I would point out who was
it that failed the bar a ton of times?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
JFK. Junior, I think, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the JFK. Junior was
going to be a rocket scientist, so that's not surprising
for me.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I mean he went straight to law school. I
think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or whatever
the heck they did, completely irrelevant. They let him in
because of his last name.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, he could be illiterate as a Kennedy, and they
would have led him into Harvard law school.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And he continues to fail.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So anyway, Well, I do think everybody's trying to poke
fun at her, but I give her credit for being
willing to try to do something super hard when she
could just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you, I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could she fail the bar exam? Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying and hopefully at some point
(09:00):
she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
(09:24):
for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years. I don't even know how many magazine covers
has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million dollar
yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughters on. I
don't know if you could find all in a more
(09:44):
privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would be
very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like like
Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but Elon
Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the Tesla
factory building. All this stuff big cost to his personal life.
Some people hate him, obviously, the allied with Trump Michelle
Obama everywhere should go. She is worshiped, worshiped by elite society,
(10:07):
and yet you when she talks about things like, for example,
how she needed to have a celebrity style glam team
when she was in the White House. This is how
she speaks of at play eight, I.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Didn't really have that choices.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Firstly, every day, every time I was up as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public, yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time, you know, I know, having a glam team
a trifecta. It feels like a luxury, but it was
a time's time, this necessity. There's absolutely no way that
(10:47):
I would be able to do my hair and make
up and have clothes ready that fit, you know, because
where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
Ete Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public eye that I can see.
And every time she speaks, I like her less. And
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been coddled,
(11:25):
She's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her and let me explain why that is.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I went off.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I might have gone off more on this than almost
anybody in the country. When she wasn't willing to show
up for Jimmy Carter's funeral, to me, it was such
a personal slap in the face to every American.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Look.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president of
the United States, or when you are married to the
president of the United States, there are certain moments that
demand to me that you show up and show the
least semblance of respect for the country that you could.
(12:19):
Hillary Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The
Bushes were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump
and Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to
be willing to give a few hours of your time
to get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get off,
(12:42):
be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't show
up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did I
give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like a
person that would be fun to spend time with. Buck
and I just I look at this and instead of saying, hey, boy.
You know I'm from I think the South side of Chicago,
(13:03):
if I'm not mistaken. I grew up and I got
to be the first lady of the United States. I
married the President. What is an incredible story that is
that you can be a kid from the south side
of Chicago and you can grow up to do this, right.
I mean, you know who's actually leaned into that, because
I think he's also from the South side of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The Pope, the American Pope Leo. He's talked.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I've seen quite a lot about how amazing it is
that a kid who grew up on the South side
of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope. I just
every time Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what
a be careful here, you might need to turn on
the radio.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What a bitch?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
What an ungrateful bitch. Michelle Obama is unique among all
of the first ladies of different political parties. All she
does is wine and talk like, Hey, well, I have
to have a glam squad or I'm not even gonna
travel with my uh with my wardrobe people, Oh I don't.
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
(14:09):
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now, you
could come after me, because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag Why are your sleeves too long? Those are criticisms.
The answer is because I just buy things off the
rack and I'm not a diva, and I just I
(14:29):
don't get it. I don't get it. Every time she
speaks buck, I just think to myself, boy, she had
an opportunity. She reminds me of the US women's soccer team.
I think there's a lot of this. I don't think
it's just unique to her for left winging people. Do
you remember when Meghan Rappino they were playing in the
World Cup and she just chose that opportunity to take
(14:50):
shots at President Trump said I'm not gonna go to
the White House, I'm not gonna visit, and then she
insulted him with expletives. And I'm thinking to myself, you
were on the national stage for young women everywhere around
the world who aspire to grow up and be great
soccer players like you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How about a scintilla.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this left wing, and I think it's primarily women, honestly,
which is the foundation of the Democrat Party. This left wing, hectoring, ungrateful,
baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Buck. I think it's why men are done with them.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Every man out there is like, yeah, I've had to
deal with that in my life. It's like every single
Democrat woman has got her finger out and she's lecturing
you all day long. And I think a lot of
women out there listening to us right now are nodding along.
It's like the whole party is just the most annoying
person at your job who's lecturing you about something that
(15:56):
she doesn't like that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the U You told me it was just atrocious administration.
It is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms
of you're like, what is this, But it's Princeton educated
(16:21):
blacks and the black community is her?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What's her thesis?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Does anyone want to guess what it's about, the isolation
and the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as
a black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on
this her entire like her the peak, the pinnacle of
her academic life as an undergraduate, was to write a
one hundred page whine about how hard it was to
(16:47):
be black at Princeton, which, by the way, this was
in the heyday of affirmative action. She probably got about
three hundred points worth of assistance on in terms of
SAT comparison, at least two hundred plus points to get
into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the reason she could whine about being black at
Princeton is because she was black at Princeton, and.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Being black and applying to Princeton at that time was
a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes, that
is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got into
Princeton in large part because she was a black woman,
and then she wrote a thesis about a heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general.
The protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip. I think it was last week. It
was going viral. She was saying something like, oh, our
family never got the grace that other families got, and
I saw that clip. Maybe we can grab it before
we finished the hour, and I'm sorry, Buck.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Do you remember, as I do, the Bush daughters.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Getting destroyed by national media for relatively minor teenager related
infractions as if they were modern day you know, felons
of an enormous magnitude. They got treated basically the same
as Hunter. And by the way, how about the Bidens.
Now they did a lot, but Hunter and all the
(18:13):
other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And Chelsea back in the day.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't remember everybody bending over backwards to treat Chelsea
really well. And so you look at all the other kids,
I would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
More fairly than any children of.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The president have, regardless of political party, in my whole life.
And we know we've had all these guys on the program.
Do you think the Trumps have been treated fairly like
the kids? I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would
put them in prison if they could, for sure, and
they haven't done anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yes, all true. Well, the Democrats tried to be clear.
They would It's not just they would desire to put
Trump found members in prison. They made moves to do so.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh totally.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Other people are gonna say, oh, well Hunter, Yeah, Hunter
committed about one hundred felonies on his laptop. If you
just click and went and looked through any of Hunter's laptop,
he got insanely favorable treatment.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation. Buck
Sexton here the entire Clay and Buck Show wish you
and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful
New Year.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A Balls reader, Let's hear it here Donna Augustine.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
She was at the beginning of the shutdown. There were
two goals, both of which.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I said, No, I don't know what that was. Talkback
AA Donna in Saint Augustine, Florida. She's a Balls fan
and we wanted to hear from Donna.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
I've been reading the book Balls by Clay Travis. I'm
actually really enjoying it. Enjoyed the early part of the
story about your early career and the challenges and ups
and downs. You definitely have balls. I'm impressed and enjoyed
the story. I'm also enjoying things I thought I understood
in the news, but didn't understood how the dots connected.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So thank you.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
So Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Is the book semi autobiographical. I did buy my copy,
and I know a guy who could probably get me
a free one. But I bought my copy and I
have not yet had the chance to dive into it,
but I will, so tell me give me a little
little bit of a preview here, there's some autobiographical components.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, look, I mean, how do you end up doing
what we do? I think if you trace the Trump era,
one of the things that I really examined in the book,
and I think historically is going.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To matter is how did we lose our way.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
In sports in particular, but also culture to the extent
where we ended up? And congratulations the Olympics now are
coming out in saying that they're going to ban men
who identify as women. But how did we create a
landscape where the book opens with Leah Thomas winning a
(21:10):
man winning a women's NCAA swimming championship in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How did that happen. It wasn't overnight, it was gradual.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They tried to and this is one reason I'm talking
to you Buck today and why I've been talking to
everybody for the past several years. They tried to turn
sports into identity politics. They tried to strip away the meritocracy,
and they tried to take away that from sports. Best
man or best woman wins and how did that happen?
(21:42):
How did we end up with a man winning a
women's championship? So the book kind of gets into the
history of that and traces the media evolution. And let
me say this, you guys have bought this thing to
such an extent that we are on the precipice of,
for the first time ever, me being a New York
Times bestselling author. So they have they have flagged the book,
(22:06):
and it's gonna be like right on the border of
whether we end up on the Times List.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now, look, we've been.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The last book I wrote was a Wall Street Journal, bestseller,
Publishers Weekly, USA Today List, all of those things. But
the Times List is what gets a book in the
front of a bookstore. It's what gets people maybe to
engage with a book that they otherwise wouldn't. So I
have a lot of immense gratitude. Obviously, a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Of people bought signed copies. So far, so good. It's
been six days.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So but you guys have bought thousands and thousands of copies.
And you know what else, a lot of you have
bought the audiobook, and Buck, I'm telling you, on your
Christmas break, when you go into that studio and you
start recording it, you're going to be thankful for anybody
who buys the audiobook, because recording the book yourself is
(23:00):
is an incredible grind of an effort, particularly because you're
just in a room by yourself, and every word they're fixing,
they're making sure that you read it correctly. And so
to the extent you want more from me, there is
six over six hours of me reading every word of
this book. And I'm betting it'll take you. It takes
(23:21):
about fifteen hours probably to record six so.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
A long time. That sounds like a lot of fun.
Now we have this from Reuter's this morning. Clay no
decision yet on transgender athletes games eligibility, IOC International Olympic
Committee says, but they are moving to Titan eligibility criteria
(23:47):
in a shifting sentiment that the IOC appears increasingly willing
to get on board with. Did a you turn in June?
I'm reading again from the Reuters report here deciding to
take the lead and setting eligibility criteria or a participation
of trans gender athletes. Coventry set up the Protection of
the Female Category working Group. This is really what we've
come to, Protection of the Female category, made up of
(24:09):
experts as well as representatives.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
An update.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So what I'm seeing here, which is interesting, is that
they know that this is going to be preposterous and
destroy the interest and love of the Olympics, which the
Olympics has been around for like three thousand years, I
think something like that. I think it's eight hundred bcs
around there. You had the first Olympics in ancient Greece,
(24:35):
so it has been a long time this thing's been
going on, right, It's actually one of our oldest cultural
traditions that I'm aware of. And they realized that some
three hundred pound guy that would be very big, some
two hundred pound guy setting the women's record and shot
put while he's like, you know, curling his beard is
probably going to hurt our sense as to how fair
(24:58):
this is. And yet now they're starting to say, well,
what about women who have the sry gene and the
Y chromosome? And I want to be very clear, the
trans movement has explicitly thought against trans identification having anything
to do with chromosomes or anything else. Yes, But now
(25:19):
with the Olympics, they're trying to play this game of, oh, well,
what about people that have this very rare mutation. It's
a whole lot of second, that's not when Trump banned
men playing women's sports. It's dudes who say they're women.
That's what everyone's really talking about, because if you make
it about those chromosomes, the dudes who say they're women
don't count. So they're trying to have it, but it
(25:41):
looks to me a little bit like they're trying to
play both sides of this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Also, I don't think you can divorce from this decision
the fact that the Olympics are taking place the Summer Olympics,
which is where this becomes, at least so far, the
biggest issue in LA. So Trump has already come out
and said, hey, this idea of men competing in women's sports. Buck,
did you see the powerlifter I mean, this dude is.
(26:08):
I mean, it's a monster dude. It's like the Mountain
from Game of Thrones suddenly deciding to identify as a chick.
Isn't it interesting that any athlete that is pretending that
he is female, we can see a picture and pick
out who the dude is.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I mean, it's it's difficult at all, right, you see it?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And I shared that video with you recently of the
volleyball player. The guy looks like Kobe Bryant soaring through
the air to spike the volleyball. Women's volleyball nets are lower,
women's basketballs are smaller, The entire physics of the sport
is very often different. I can't believe that this is
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where we are, that this is considered a victory. Remember
it was only a couple of years ago that the
dude boxer, two potential dude boxers won women's gold medals,
And now they won't take the gender test and they
don't qualify because and people say, well, this is this
is really unfortunate because it invades their privacy.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's a cheek swab.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
A cheek swab is how they do genetic analysis to
determine what your chromosome will break down. Is now some
of these guys, we don't need cheek swabs. We could
have crocodile done detests, but cheek swab. It's not like
you're having to disrobe or there's some doctor like probing
your physical body. They just cheek swab you and you
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either are or or not qualified to be a woman.
And remember this is only for men who identify as women.
If biology wasn't real, there'd be all these chicks deciding
they were dudes competing in the Olympics and competing in
men's sports. Why isn't that happening because biology is real
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and those women who identify as men are nowhere near big, strong,
or fast enough to compete.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Isn't that interesting that you never have a female to
male transition who automatically gets a gold medal? Is almost
like we're proving the experiment in reverse. Right, we all
know what's going on here. But I've always thought that
this is what would happen, is that the moment that
they're really cornered on this issue, which is that they're
just cornered by reality, they'll start to say, well, what
(28:28):
about people who are intersex or have this rare chromosomal
They say, what about the science? Say, okay, are we
talking about that or are we And even still I
might add, there's a science argument. You know, if you
have male chromosomes and the physical advantages of male testosterone,
you should only be able to compete against men. It's
actually not that complicated. Yes, right, and so there's that.
(28:51):
But what they're trying to do is create a gray
area here so that then they can expand that gray
area to include macho man andy savage so to speak,
being like, I'm not here to talk about my transition.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
That is the South Park win that ended up being
reality and buck here is an easy way to kind
of sum it up. Men just have not been willing
to go for this. Think about this for a minute.
They just put, you know, eight guys or whatever it
was on the cover of Glamour magazine. There have been
a bunch of men identifying as women who have become
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Woman of the Year in the first year they're women.
I mean, what an insult to women that is? There
isn't I would argue, maybe one of you can come
up with one. I don't think there is a single
woman who has decided to identify as a man that
has in any way been more successful or extremely accepted
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by the male community. We're just saying, hey, we don't
play this game. No woman who becomes a man in
the first year is the man of the year. Only
person I can hardly even think about is the uh
Ellen Page, and she basically destroyed her acting career. She
was actually a kind of a cute successful actress, remember
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her from back in the day. She had several different
movies and then decided that actually, my name's Elliott Page
and I'm a dude, and basically vanished to a large extent.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
If she had stayed.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Elliet Ellen Page probably has another twenty years of Hollywood success. Instead,
becomes a dude and people are like, yeah, whatever, I'm
not really going to pay attention to that anymore.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
We'll start the noise here with uh Pam listens on
k E and I up and Anchorage, Alaska. I love
our Alaska contingent CEE.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
See hit it, Hey, Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
If Clay is going to tease you about your TUTSI
roll dance and not expecting to see that, you could
always counter with, well, I'm sure the construction workers weren't
expecting to see you streak across your room and offer
the suggestion Coach Hearth does sell men's backroes.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Clay, there are you?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Are you a robe guy?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Our friend Jesse Kelly has been tweeting about how he's
become a robe guy now and I feel like a
robe is more like a lifestyle, like it's for the spa.
If you start walking around your house in a robe.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Are you ever gonna do anything?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, the hotels always have robes. No, I'm not a
robe guy. I don't think I've ever really kind of
walked around in a robe. Certainly, Yeah, I guess if
you're at a spa or something like that, maybe it
makes sense. But not a not a big time road guy.
By the way, We've got a good call Chip and Brandon, Florida.
We were talking about culture, and I think we could
(01:35):
have some more fun with this when we come back
because a lot of these ring doorbell cameras. I get it,
it's a relatively new thing that we can always see.
But I would tie this in with what do they
call him? Porch pirates, people who are constantly stealing the
packages that are delivered. Probably a lot of you out
there in neighborhoods have seen some of these videos. People say, hey,
do you know who this person is? They're waiting, they're
(01:57):
following the Amazon truck or the ups or whatever it is,
and they're grabbing things. This is a positive story. Chip
in Brandon, Florida tell us your story.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yes, I've accidentally left my wallet in a Sam's Club
and somebody turned it in. It had four hundred dollars
cash in it, and when they were when I went
down there the next day, all the cash is in it.
I think a red state you have much better chance
of having people do the right thing than in a
blue So.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
This is great.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You were just at a Sam's Club store and you
just accidentally forgot your wallet and somebody turned it in
and all the money was still in it. Correct, that's awesome,
Thank you. I do think red states tend to have,
as a general rule, better cultures than blue states when
it comes to and look states is tough because I
(02:50):
just mentioned there, even whatever state you're in, forty percent
of people voted Trump. Even if you're in a blue state,
And even if you're in a red state, around forty
percent of people voted Kamala. So you're still talking about
in a group of ten people, there's a huge substantial
percentage that are going to agree with you no matter what.
But I do think the culture of uh what, look
(03:13):
are you more likely play?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It would be fascinating to see an experiment they used
to do things like this of a wallet with you know,
one hundred dollars bill peeking out of it, left on
a New York City subway and someone operating a lost
and found counter, you know, within eyesight? How many people,
how many people turn it in? How many people take
one hundred?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It would be and it would vote for it would
be an interesting dynamic to then cross the tab it.
You know, Uh, how do they vote in elections? Are
they or are they not religious? What would the percentages show?
Who are the most likely to return? Who are the
least likely? But again to your point, high high trust
society's low trust society.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Sunday hang with Clay and buck.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ken who listens in Lincoln, Nebraska d D on the
talk back hit It.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Don't be hating on people who sports the robe. Yes,
it is a lifestyle. I'm retiring. Well, I'm not a
retiring pastor. I'm still a pastor, but I'm about to retire.
I'm an avid fly fisherman, have built several poles, so
don't be hating.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Good show.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
I have a blessed one.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Thank you. You have a blessed one too. I don't
usually think of robe guys as also fly fishermen, but
that is.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A bit of a that is a bit of an upset,
like if he had been like and I'm also into
smoking pot and uh and uh, you know, wearing Birkenstocks, orgies,
smoking pot and orgies. That's kind of what I think
about for robe guy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So I've also I've noticed something, probably because of all
the lot of all the young people walking around trick
or treating, there is this is very unk of me,
which is how you wearing an unk T shirt. I
am Ali, got me an unk T shirtunk and owning it.
So that's a that the youth uses. But I've noticed
something that the kids, like thirteen to sixteen, they're wearing
(05:07):
Crocs un ironically, Oh yeah, the shoe was popular, Crocs.
And their hairstyle is this like poofy in the front
thing like it's like unkempt, kind of like like wavy curly.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
This is the hairstyle. Boy, I think my boys have this.
I mean exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
If you had them come over to the camera, I
can tell you. But I can tell you they're all
these kids walking around with the same hair. It's a
very unique hairstyle.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yes, and that their rocket crocs are and have been
for several years now, insanely popular with young kids, like
teenage teenage kids. I thought you were gonna say, well,
hold on, let's play Renee in Kentucky who wanted to
react to the idea of all this candy being stolen.
Speaker 8 (05:55):
If my son had ever jumped a bowl of candy
and his bag, I would have busted his ass on
the spot. He would have had to apologize as well
as do community service work for that neighbor. That's how
that goes. Anyone else that would do something different is
(06:17):
low class.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Nay, you are. You are someone who is holding a
line on civilization and I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Renee is very civilized. Buck, I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And yeah, if you happen to see your kid on
one of those viral videos, I think you should make
a video of the kid apologizing and make him go
knock on the door and buy candy, maybe do some
yard work to make up for the candy that he took.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Sunday Drop with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Very important news that Claire reminded me of that Kim Kardashian,
despite trying, did not pass the California bar exam. I
believe she's tried a few times at this point but
has has not had passed it. So we're hoping, we're
pulling for Kim to pass the bar exam. I think
she isn't she worth a billion dollars, so this really
is just like a personal mountain that she is trying
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to climb.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
We'll get into this, but yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
She definitely does not need the money that might come
from practicing law in any way.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So that's not obviously an important story, but it's one
of those stories that people are going to be talking about.
So I just thought i'd let you know she has
failed the bar exam three times already, but she's gonna
keep going. And you know what Clay a wise man
once said to me, Persistence is the key. Persistence is
the key, very very important.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
A lot of people are making fun of her, and
I'll just say this, I think we should encourage people
to try.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
To do hard things.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And it would be very easy, to your point, Buck,
when you become a billionaire, to just say, hey, I've
got everything I could possibly want. I'm not going to
try to push myself any further. And she decided she
wanted to try to become a lawyer, and she is
attempting to do it. I would point out who was
it that failed the bar a ton of times?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
JFK. Junior, I think, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, well no one thought the JFK. Junior was
going to be a rocket scientist, so that's not surprising
for me.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
But I mean he went straight to law school. I
think they led him into Columbia or Harvard or whatever
the heck they did, completely irrelevant. They let him in
because of his last name.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yes, he could be illiterate as a Kennedy, and they
would have led him into Harvard law school.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And he continues to fail.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So anyway, Well, I do think everybody's trying to poke
fun at her, but I give her credit for being
willing to try to do something super hard when she
could just chill and have an easy life.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think it's I think it's important to always try
to work on yourself and to be willing to embrace
the humility that must come with that. So I'm actually
with you, I'm far less. I'm not you know, Oh
my gosh, how could she fail the bar exam? Good
for Kim Kardashian for trying and hopefully at some point
(09:00):
she'll pass. On the other side of the gratitude scale, yes,
on the other side of that scale, we have the
former First Lady Michelle Obama, who has a remarkable talent
for seeming just perpetually ungrateful and full of grievance, which
(09:24):
for somebody who has who was the First Lady for
eight years. I don't even know how many magazine covers
has her pick of which billionaires three hundred million dollar
yacht she chooses to vacation with her daughters on. I
don't know if you could find all in a more
(09:44):
privileged and elitist person on the planet, it would be
very hard, right, because you know, yeah, there's like like
Elon Musk is worth a ton of money, but Elon
Musk is like sleeping on the floor of the Tesla
factory building. All this stuff big cost to his personal life.
Some people hate him, obviously, the allied with Trump Michelle
Obama everywhere should go. She is worshiped, worshiped by elite society,
(10:07):
and yet you when she talks about things like, for example,
how she needed to have a celebrity style glam team
when she was in the White House. This is how
she speaks of at play eight, I.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Didn't really have that choices.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
Firstly, every day, every time I was up as we
called it, you know, I was up for the public, yes,
and the days were long, so as you mentioned, to
save time, you know, I know, having a glam team
a trifecta. It feels like a luxury, but it was
a time's time, this necessity. There's absolutely no way that
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I would be able to do my hair and make
up and have clothes ready that fit, you know, because
where is the woman that can live off the rack?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I know a lot of women who live off the rack,
Ete Clay, I know a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Actually, Michelle Obama might be the person who should give
the country more gratitude than anyone that has the least
gratitude of anyone in public eye that I can see.
And every time she speaks, I like her less. And
I don't think I'm unique in that she has been coddled,
(11:25):
She's been protected, she has been told that she is
incredibly accomplished and a uniquely transcendent figure, such that she
decided that she needed to start her own podcast. I
actually feel sorry for Barack Obama for having to deal
with her and let me explain why that is.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I went off.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I might have gone off more on this than almost
anybody in the country. When she wasn't willing to show
up for Jimmy Carter's funeral, to me, it was such
a personal slap in the face to every American.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Look.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I understand you don't want to always have to go
to public events, but when you run for president of
the United States, or when you are married to the
president of the United States, there are certain moments that
demand to me that you show up and show the
least semblance of respect for the country that you could.
(12:19):
Hillary Clinton was at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. The
Bushes were at the funeral for Jimmy Carter. Certainly Trump
and Milania were there. It doesn't take a lot to
be willing to give a few hours of your time
to get on a private jet and fly somewhere, get off,
(12:42):
be respectful for a couple of hours. She didn't show
up for the inauguration of Trump Barack Obama. Did I
give him credit for that? She doesn't seem like a
person that would be fun to spend time with. Buck
and I just I look at this and instead of saying, hey, boy.
You know I'm from I think the South side of Chicago,
(13:03):
if I'm not mistaken. I grew up and I got
to be the first lady of the United States. I
married the President. What is an incredible story that is
that you can be a kid from the south side
of Chicago and you can grow up to do this, right.
I mean, you know who's actually leaned into that, because
I think he's also from the South side of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The Pope, the American Pope Leo. He's talked.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I've seen quite a lot about how amazing it is
that a kid who grew up on the South side
of Chicago could ascend to become the Pope. I just
every time Michelle Obama speaks, I think to myself, what
a be careful here, you might need to turn on
the radio.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What a bitch?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
What an ungrateful bitch. Michelle Obama is unique among all
of the first ladies of different political parties. All she
does is wine and talk like, Hey, well, I have
to have a glam squad or I'm not even gonna
travel with my uh with my wardrobe people, Oh I don't.
I don't wear a lot of things off the rack.
(14:09):
I wear everything off the rack. I know a lot
of women that wear things off the rack. Now, you
could come after me, because I shouldn't, because you should say, oh,
you should have that better tailored. Oh why are your
pants drag Why are your sleeves too long? Those are criticisms.
The answer is because I just buy things off the
rack and I'm not a diva, and I just I
(14:29):
don't get it. I don't get it. Every time she
speaks buck, I just think to myself, boy, she had
an opportunity. She reminds me of the US women's soccer team.
I think there's a lot of this. I don't think
it's just unique to her for left winging people. Do
you remember when Meghan Rappino they were playing in the
World Cup and she just chose that opportunity to take
(14:50):
shots at President Trump said I'm not gonna go to
the White House, I'm not gonna visit, and then she
insulted him with expletives. And I'm thinking to myself, you
were on the national stage for young women everywhere around
the world who aspire to grow up and be great
soccer players like you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
How about a scintilla.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Of gratitude for the fact that you have this opportunity
and this left wing, and I think it's primarily women, honestly,
which is the foundation of the Democrat Party. This left wing, hectoring, ungrateful,
baseline bitchiness that is the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Buck. I think it's why men are done with them.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Every man out there is like, yeah, I've had to
deal with that in my life. It's like every single
Democrat woman has got her finger out and she's lecturing
you all day long. And I think a lot of
women out there listening to us right now are nodding along.
It's like the whole party is just the most annoying
person at your job who's lecturing you about something that
(15:56):
she doesn't like that really isn't anything wrong at all.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Nothing has changed, by the way, in the apparent attitude
that Michelle Obama formerly Michelle Robinson has, you can easily
go find her Princeton thesis, which I read back in
the U You told me it was just atrocious administration.
It is atrocious. It is absolutely brutal reading in terms
of you're like, what is this, But it's Princeton educated
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blacks and the black community is her?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What's her thesis?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Does anyone want to guess what it's about, the isolation
and the feelings of subtle racism you deal with as
a black student at Princeton. She wrote her thesis on
this her entire like her the peak, the pinnacle of
her academic life as an undergraduate, was to write a
one hundred page whine about how hard it was to
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be black at Princeton, which, by the way, this was
in the heyday of affirmative action. She probably got about
three hundred points worth of assistance on in terms of
SAT comparison, at least two hundred plus points to get
into Princeton.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the reason she could whine about being black at
Princeton is because she was black at Princeton, and.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Being black and applying to Princeton at that time was
a particular privilege in the admissions process. So yes, that
is the great irony of this. Michelle Obama got into
Princeton in large part because she was a black woman,
and then she wrote a thesis about a heart it
was to be a black woman at Princeton, and that
kind of sums up the attitude.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I also think it sums up the legacy media in general.
The protect you see the I don't know that we
played this clip. I think it was last week. It
was going viral. She was saying something like, oh, our
family never got the grace that other families got, and
I saw that clip. Maybe we can grab it before
we finished the hour, and I'm sorry, Buck.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Do you remember, as I do, the Bush daughters.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Getting destroyed by national media for relatively minor teenager related
infractions as if they were modern day you know, felons
of an enormous magnitude. They got treated basically the same
as Hunter. And by the way, how about the Bidens.
Now they did a lot, but Hunter and all the
(18:13):
other Biden kids got incredible negative media attention.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And Chelsea back in the day.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't remember everybody bending over backwards to treat Chelsea
really well. And so you look at all the other kids,
I would say that the Obamas and their daughters got treated.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
More fairly than any children of.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The president have, regardless of political party, in my whole life.
And we know we've had all these guys on the program.
Do you think the Trumps have been treated fairly like
the kids? I'm not talking about Trump himself. They would
put them in prison if they could, for sure, and
they haven't done anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yes, all true. Well, the Democrats tried to be clear.
They would It's not just they would desire to put
Trump found members in prison. They made moves to do so.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh totally.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Other people are gonna say, oh, well Hunter, Yeah, Hunter
committed about one hundred felonies on his laptop. If you
just click and went and looked through any of Hunter's laptop,
he got insanely favorable treatment.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I guess maybe it was all just Russian disinformation. Buck
Sexton here the entire Clay and Buck Show wish you
and your family a warm Christmas season and a joyful
New Year.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Sundays with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A Balls reader, Let's hear it here Donna Augustine.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
She was at the beginning of the shutdown. There were
two goals, both of which.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I said, No, I don't know what that was. Talkback
AA Donna in Saint Augustine, Florida. She's a Balls fan
and we wanted to hear from Donna.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
I've been reading the book Balls by Clay Travis. I'm
actually really enjoying it. Enjoyed the early part of the
story about your early career and the challenges and ups
and downs. You definitely have balls. I'm impressed and enjoyed
the story. I'm also enjoying things I thought I understood
in the news, but didn't understood how the dots connected.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
So thank you.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
So Clay.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Is the book semi autobiographical. I did buy my copy,
and I know a guy who could probably get me
a free one. But I bought my copy and I
have not yet had the chance to dive into it,
but I will, so tell me give me a little
little bit of a preview here, there's some autobiographical components.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, look, I mean, how do you end up doing
what we do? I think if you trace the Trump era,
one of the things that I really examined in the book,
and I think historically is going.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
To matter is how did we lose our way.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
In sports in particular, but also culture to the extent
where we ended up? And congratulations the Olympics now are
coming out in saying that they're going to ban men
who identify as women. But how did we create a
landscape where the book opens with Leah Thomas winning a
(21:10):
man winning a women's NCAA swimming championship in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
How did that happen. It wasn't overnight, it was gradual.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They tried to and this is one reason I'm talking
to you Buck today and why I've been talking to
everybody for the past several years. They tried to turn
sports into identity politics. They tried to strip away the meritocracy,
and they tried to take away that from sports. Best
man or best woman wins and how did that happen?
(21:42):
How did we end up with a man winning a
women's championship? So the book kind of gets into the
history of that and traces the media evolution. And let
me say this, you guys have bought this thing to
such an extent that we are on the precipice of,
for the first time ever, me being a New York
Times bestselling author. So they have they have flagged the book,
(22:06):
and it's gonna be like right on the border of
whether we end up on the Times List.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Now, look, we've been.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The last book I wrote was a Wall Street Journal, bestseller,
Publishers Weekly, USA Today List, all of those things. But
the Times List is what gets a book in the
front of a bookstore. It's what gets people maybe to
engage with a book that they otherwise wouldn't. So I
have a lot of immense gratitude. Obviously, a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Of people bought signed copies. So far, so good. It's
been six days.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So but you guys have bought thousands and thousands of copies.
And you know what else, a lot of you have
bought the audiobook, and Buck, I'm telling you, on your
Christmas break, when you go into that studio and you
start recording it, you're going to be thankful for anybody
who buys the audiobook, because recording the book yourself is
(23:00):
is an incredible grind of an effort, particularly because you're
just in a room by yourself, and every word they're fixing,
they're making sure that you read it correctly. And so
to the extent you want more from me, there is
six over six hours of me reading every word of
this book. And I'm betting it'll take you. It takes
(23:21):
about fifteen hours probably to record six so.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
A long time. That sounds like a lot of fun.
Now we have this from Reuter's this morning. Clay no
decision yet on transgender athletes games eligibility, IOC International Olympic
Committee says, but they are moving to Titan eligibility criteria
(23:47):
in a shifting sentiment that the IOC appears increasingly willing
to get on board with. Did a you turn in June?
I'm reading again from the Reuters report here deciding to
take the lead and setting eligibility criteria or a participation
of trans gender athletes. Coventry set up the Protection of
the Female Category working Group. This is really what we've
come to, Protection of the Female category, made up of
(24:09):
experts as well as representatives.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
An update.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So what I'm seeing here, which is interesting, is that
they know that this is going to be preposterous and
destroy the interest and love of the Olympics, which the
Olympics has been around for like three thousand years, I
think something like that. I think it's eight hundred bcs
around there. You had the first Olympics in ancient Greece,
(24:35):
so it has been a long time this thing's been
going on, right, It's actually one of our oldest cultural
traditions that I'm aware of. And they realized that some
three hundred pound guy that would be very big, some
two hundred pound guy setting the women's record and shot
put while he's like, you know, curling his beard is
probably going to hurt our sense as to how fair
(24:58):
this is. And yet now they're starting to say, well,
what about women who have the sry gene and the
Y chromosome? And I want to be very clear, the
trans movement has explicitly thought against trans identification having anything
to do with chromosomes or anything else. Yes, But now
(25:19):
with the Olympics, they're trying to play this game of, oh, well,
what about people that have this very rare mutation. It's
a whole lot of second, that's not when Trump banned
men playing women's sports. It's dudes who say they're women.
That's what everyone's really talking about, because if you make
it about those chromosomes, the dudes who say they're women
don't count. So they're trying to have it, but it
(25:41):
looks to me a little bit like they're trying to
play both sides of this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Also, I don't think you can divorce from this decision
the fact that the Olympics are taking place the Summer Olympics,
which is where this becomes, at least so far, the
biggest issue in LA. So Trump has already come out
and said, hey, this idea of men competing in women's sports. Buck,
did you see the powerlifter I mean, this dude is.
(26:08):
I mean, it's a monster dude. It's like the Mountain
from Game of Thrones suddenly deciding to identify as a chick.
Isn't it interesting that any athlete that is pretending that
he is female, we can see a picture and pick
out who the dude is.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I mean, it's it's difficult at all, right, you see it?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And I shared that video with you recently of the
volleyball player. The guy looks like Kobe Bryant soaring through
the air to spike the volleyball. Women's volleyball nets are lower,
women's basketballs are smaller, The entire physics of the sport
is very often different. I can't believe that this is
(26:52):
where we are, that this is considered a victory. Remember
it was only a couple of years ago that the
dude boxer, two potential dude boxers won women's gold medals,
And now they won't take the gender test and they
don't qualify because and people say, well, this is this
is really unfortunate because it invades their privacy.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's a cheek swab.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
A cheek swab is how they do genetic analysis to
determine what your chromosome will break down. Is now some
of these guys, we don't need cheek swabs. We could
have crocodile done detests, but cheek swab. It's not like
you're having to disrobe or there's some doctor like probing
your physical body. They just cheek swab you and you
(27:39):
either are or or not qualified to be a woman.
And remember this is only for men who identify as women.
If biology wasn't real, there'd be all these chicks deciding
they were dudes competing in the Olympics and competing in
men's sports. Why isn't that happening because biology is real
(28:00):
and those women who identify as men are nowhere near big, strong,
or fast enough to compete.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Isn't that interesting that you never have a female to
male transition who automatically gets a gold medal? Is almost
like we're proving the experiment in reverse. Right, we all
know what's going on here. But I've always thought that
this is what would happen, is that the moment that
they're really cornered on this issue, which is that they're
just cornered by reality, they'll start to say, well, what
(28:28):
about people who are intersex or have this rare chromosomal
They say, what about the science? Say, okay, are we
talking about that or are we And even still I
might add, there's a science argument. You know, if you
have male chromosomes and the physical advantages of male testosterone,
you should only be able to compete against men. It's
actually not that complicated. Yes, right, and so there's that.
(28:51):
But what they're trying to do is create a gray
area here so that then they can expand that gray
area to include macho man andy savage so to speak,
being like, I'm not here to talk about my transition.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
That is the South Park win that ended up being
reality and buck here is an easy way to kind
of sum it up. Men just have not been willing
to go for this. Think about this for a minute.
They just put, you know, eight guys or whatever it
was on the cover of Glamour magazine. There have been
a bunch of men identifying as women who have become
(29:26):
Woman of the Year in the first year they're women.
I mean, what an insult to women that is? There
isn't I would argue, maybe one of you can come
up with one. I don't think there is a single
woman who has decided to identify as a man that
has in any way been more successful or extremely accepted
(29:49):
by the male community. We're just saying, hey, we don't
play this game. No woman who becomes a man in
the first year is the man of the year. Only
person I can hardly even think about is the uh
Ellen Page, and she basically destroyed her acting career. She
was actually a kind of a cute successful actress, remember
(30:10):
her from back in the day. She had several different
movies and then decided that actually, my name's Elliott Page
and I'm a dude, and basically vanished to a large extent.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
If she had stayed.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Elliet Ellen Page probably has another twenty years of Hollywood success. Instead,
becomes a dude and people are like, yeah, whatever, I'm
not really going to pay attention to that anymore.
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